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Clippersfan86
11-18-2012, 12:35 AM
Dude has been lights out from midrange last few games and SIGNIFICANTLY better this season through the 9 games. Tonight he knocked down 5-7, last game 4-6 for example.

His free throw shooting is also up to nearly 68 percent. His defense looks so improved it's ridiculous. He's contesting everything, communicating on D, blocking shots, playing the passing lanes and stopping players in the paint.

Raw numbers are down to much less minutes, shots and touches so far but he's starting to get back to the 20/10 games.

Raps18-19 Champ
11-18-2012, 12:38 AM
What's the next small sample size thread are you going to make after this about the Clippers?

Guppyfighter
11-18-2012, 12:42 AM
I expect him to be 5/7 every single night.

xxplayerxx23
11-18-2012, 12:43 AM
Clippers :drool:

Clippersfan86
11-18-2012, 12:46 AM
What's the next small sample size thread are you going to make after this about the Clippers?

I understand the sample size theory but if you've followed Blake's career you'd understand it's a clear, massive improvement. I've never seen Blake hit jumpers like this for 3 straight games, let alone this long. I've never seen Blake play this intelligently and aggressively on defense in his previous two years. Also the free throw shooting jumping from a horrid 52 back up to a very respectable big man 68 percent? This is praise worthy no matter how early.

ManRam
11-18-2012, 12:48 AM
Both are much improved, and he is young so it's not unreasonable to believe that he will improve on both aspects. But only time will tell :shrug:

Raps18-19 Champ
11-18-2012, 12:50 AM
I understand the sample size theory but if you've followed Blake's career you'd understand it's a clear, massive improvement. I've never seen Blake hit jumpers like this for 3 straight games, let alone this long. I've never seen Blake play this intelligently and aggressively on defense in his previous two years. Also the free throw shooting jumping from a horrid 52 back up to a very respectable big man 68 percent? This is praise worthy no matter how early.

He's a young player. It's common sense he's obviously going to improve. For me, I expect Griffin to improve, so I don't really see the point of pointing out the obvious (That he's improving his range).

But is the next thread going to be about DeAndre? You already made at least 3 threads about Griffin, 1 about Bledsoe, 1 about Crawford. Who's next.

Clippersfan86
11-18-2012, 12:52 AM
He's a young player. It's common sense he's obviously going to improve. For me, I expect Griffin to improve, so I don't really see the point of pointing out the obvious (That he's improving his range).

But is the next thread going to be about DeAndre? You already made at least 3 threads about Griffin, 1 about Bledsoe, 1 about Crawford. Who's next.

Well considering just last week multiple people ranked Griffin in the 7-10 best PF's in threads and said he's overrated and will never improve it's pretty relevant and warranted. Bottom line is 80 percent of PSD thinks Blake is an overrated, tapped out scrub. He's taken some huge steps to improve and it's good to talk about.

Raps18-19 Champ
11-18-2012, 01:54 AM
Well considering just last week multiple people ranked Griffin in the 7-10 best PF's in threads and said he's overrated and will never improve it's pretty relevant and warranted. Bottom line is 80 percent of PSD thinks Blake is an overrated, tapped out scrub. He's taken some huge steps to improve and it's good to talk about.

Because he is overrated. No one called him a tapped out scrub and if 1 person did, that's not the majority view. Just because some called him a 6-10 best PF, doesn't mean it's the truth.

Clippersfan86
11-18-2012, 01:59 AM
Because he is overrated. No one called him a tapped out scrub and if 1 person did, that's not the majority view. Just because some called him a 6-10 best PF, doesn't mean it's the truth.

He's FAR from overrated. In fact I'd say he's severely underrated because people undermine his impact on offense with his passing AND scoring as well as his defense. Guy was top 7 in PER last year, led NBA in on and off court differential and has fantastic career stats. Maybe he is overhyped to some but not overrated.

xxplayerxx23
11-18-2012, 02:02 AM
I still have Love-Dirk-Pau-bosh-LMA are better IMO but Griffin is very good.

TheSource
11-18-2012, 02:14 AM
He's left WIDEEEEEEEE OPEN whenever he makes those shots so when he does actually learn to shoot it will get more difficult for him to make them.

jason6692
11-18-2012, 02:19 AM
i only care about the clippers in 2k13 when i use them / thread
blake griffin still overrated period maybe top 5 PF MAYBE

John Walls Era
11-18-2012, 02:22 AM
Because he is overrated. No one called him a tapped out scrub and if 1 person did, that's not the majority view. Just because some called him a 6-10 best PF, doesn't mean it's the truth.

If everyone says hes overrated. Would that still make him overrated? Or would he then become underrated? Hes a young guy and avg'd 20-10. I thought he was overrated as well, but then I thought about the first part of my paragraph and now I think hes properly rated (on average).

Avenged
11-18-2012, 02:46 AM
I get you're excitement but again? You just created a thread boasting about him like a week ago.

JoeDirt05
11-18-2012, 02:54 AM
He's a young player. It's common sense he's obviously going to improve. For me, I expect Griffin to improve, so I don't really see the point of pointing out the obvious (That he's improving his range).

But is the next thread going to be about DeAndre? You already made at least 3 threads about Griffin, 1 about Bledsoe, 1 about Crawford. Who's next.

one about LMA

HYFR
11-18-2012, 06:58 AM
http://youtu.be/1PjBPm3y9c0

MetroMan
11-18-2012, 10:53 AM
17.3ppg. 9.2 Rebs

Not good enough. His lowest numbers yet

greg_ory_2005
11-18-2012, 11:59 AM
Where's the Odom thread!?!? :jumpy:

KnicksorBust
11-18-2012, 12:10 PM
You're too obsessed with Blake Griffin's predictable progress.

Lakers4life08
11-18-2012, 12:49 PM
He is better PF that Bosh, better rebounder,better at assists,better at defense,better post moves and with his midrange jumper improved so much, Bosh looks like garbage player compared to Blake

Clippersfan86
11-18-2012, 01:23 PM
You're too obsessed with Blake Griffin's predictable progress.

MINDBLOWN :speechless:.

KnicksorBust
11-18-2012, 01:31 PM
MINDBLOWN :speechless:.

:laugh: Hey I'm with you on the Clippers/Blake bandwagon but don't shove it down people's throats. Then it becomes white noise like Heat/Laker/Knick threads.

Clippersfan86
11-18-2012, 01:42 PM
:laugh: Hey I'm with you on the Clippers/Blake bandwagon but don't shove it down people's throats. Then it becomes white noise like Heat/Laker/Knick threads.

Fair enough. When people rip a player you're a fan of apart so often though it's hard not to rub it in a bit when that player proves them wrong. People said Blake would never be a good defender but he already looks like one in his 3rd year.

Munkeysuit
11-18-2012, 01:46 PM
He is showing improvement, slowly but surely becoming a more well rounded threat. I still do not like his offensive repertoire though...he needs to add a nice soft jump hook off either hand.

Clippersfan86
11-18-2012, 01:50 PM
He is showing improvement, slowly but surely becoming a more well rounded threat. I still do not like his offensive repertoire though...he needs to add a nice soft jump hook off either hand.

Absolutely needs to keep working on his post game but for now he can still overpower people in the paint. Improving defense, shot and free throws was more pressing.

Baller1
11-18-2012, 02:40 PM
It's alright to be hyped about your players doing well, but you gotta know when to boast and when to let it be. If you're overly persistent with it, people will dislike the player for that reason alone. For me, it happened with Rose early in his career. I couldn't stand Rose because of Chicago fans on PSD alone...

LA_Raiders
11-18-2012, 02:53 PM
He needs to work harder, time will tell. He is just a dunker in the NBA eyes

Baller1
11-18-2012, 02:59 PM
He needs to work harder, time will tell. He is just a dunker in the NBA eyes

I don't even like BG, but him being "just a dunker" is one of the biggest fallacies in the NBA today.

kdspurman
11-18-2012, 03:04 PM
I guess there will be a Blake Griffin thread after every good game?

Maybe the Clippers forum would make more sense for this? :shrug:

Lakers + Giants
11-18-2012, 03:57 PM
Stick to CTB. .

Hawkeye15
11-18-2012, 04:47 PM
His reputation as a poor defender won't be flipped that quickly. But I do think he has improved a lot on that end, so far.

celmxc
11-18-2012, 05:11 PM
His shot looks better but it all depends on his confidence... he has wide open shots and passes them up or turns it over... but his defense is ok

b@llhog24
11-18-2012, 06:32 PM
He's regressing, his stats all around the board are down. He peaked in his first 2 seasons IMO.

kylem4711
11-18-2012, 07:49 PM
He's regressing, his stats all around the board are down. He peaked in his first 2 seasons IMO.

nice try

VinceCarter
11-18-2012, 09:37 PM
What's the next small sample size thread are you going to make after this about the Clippers?

:nod:

VinceCarter
11-18-2012, 09:40 PM
His reputation as a poor defender won't be flipped that quickly. But I do think he has improved a lot on that end, so far.

Or shall we say flopped :smoking:

End of lame joke. But seriously, I hope that guy stops flopping.

Chronz
11-18-2012, 10:24 PM
He's regressing, his stats all around the board are down. He peaked in his first 2 seasons IMO.

Wait what?

Greedy22
11-18-2012, 10:27 PM
Wait what?

Sarcasm :laugh2:

He's definitely improving on the defensive end, I credit his new commercials.

b@llhog24
11-18-2012, 10:39 PM
Wait what?

Its a shot at his thread premise. He's saying Griffin's defense and mid range game has improved based on "X" amount of games, but I bet if someone else made a thread and said "Griffins points and rebounds are down and he's regressing" he'd be the first to say its a small sample size.

b@llhog24
11-18-2012, 10:40 PM
Sarcasm :laugh2:

He's definitely improving on the defensive end, I credit his new commercials.

Yep.

Clippersfan86
11-19-2012, 02:38 AM
Its a shot at his thread premise. He's saying Griffin's defense and mid range game has improved based on "X" amount of games, but I bet if someone else made a thread and said "Griffins points and rebounds are down and he's regressing" he'd be the first to say its a small sample size.

Well... if you understand why the raw stats are down it makes sense that they will bounce back (already climbing pretty fast since last week). He had an injured neck and elbow and finally got 3 days rest, came out vs the Heat and dropped 20/10/5/2 in about 30 minutes. In 2 of the last 3 games he's had 20/10 in short minutes and is finally taking more shots.

The injuries made him passive the first 5 or 6 games and he was taking 11-12 shots a game which isn't anywhere near his norm. Within two weeks he will be back at 20+ and 10+ no doubt and the attributes I mentioned are worth noting.

b@llhog24
11-19-2012, 02:53 AM
Well... if you understand why the raw stats are down it makes sense that they will bounce back (already climbing pretty fast since last week). He had an injured neck and elbow and finally got 3 days rest, came out vs the Heat and dropped 20/10/5/2 in about 30 minutes. In 2 of the last 3 games he's had 20/10 in short minutes and is finally taking more shots.

The injuries made him passive the first 5 or 6 games and he was taking 11-12 shots a game which isn't anywhere near his norm. Within two weeks he will be back at 20+ and 10+ no doubt and the attributes I mentioned are worth noting.

At this point in the season? No.

Tysons_Beard
11-19-2012, 03:09 AM
hes obviously going to get better as the time goes bye...

Cracka2HI!
11-19-2012, 03:44 AM
Threads like this belong in the Clipper forum. Why open it up for the old Blake hate? Who cares what anyone who doesn't watch him thinks of him?

thenaj17
11-19-2012, 07:08 AM
He's a top player no doubt and has been overly criticised for his defence.

You are right though, both have improved this season and for anyone who says all Blake can do is Dunk have never watched the Clippers play - probably just All Star game...

This from a Lakers fan

basketfan4life
11-19-2012, 07:29 AM
He's FAR from overrated. In fact I'd say he's severely underrated because people undermine his impact on offense with his passing AND scoring as well as his defense. Guy was top 7 in PER last year, led NBA in on and off court differential and has fantastic career stats. Maybe he is overhyped to some but not overrated.

May be not Blake but PER is overrated.

thenaj17
11-19-2012, 10:55 AM
He's left WIDEEEEEEEE OPEN whenever he makes those shots so when he does actually learn to shoot it will get more difficult for him to make them.

...but it would much easier for him to drive to the hoop, it works both ways!

Clippersfan86
11-19-2012, 11:41 AM
Just checked to see if Synergy Sports still has Blake near the top defensively after 3-4 more games and it does. He's ranked 5th and players are shooting 27 percent against him at .57 PPP.

b@llhog24
11-19-2012, 12:26 PM
May be not Blake but PER is overrated.

Based on what?

Clippersfan86
12-25-2012, 12:27 AM
Midrange jumper still very good and consistent to this point of the season (top 10 as of other day when I checked).

Synergy Sports has him ranked as the 24th best defender in the league and his defensive rating is at 96 which is around Ben Wallace's career average to give you an idea.

b@llhog24
12-25-2012, 12:48 AM
Midrange jumper still very good and consistent to this point of the season (top 10 as of other day when I checked).

Synergy Sports has him ranked as the 24th best defender in the league and his defensive rating is at 96 which is around Ben Wallace's career average to give you an idea.

Lol you were doing good til you hit here.

greg_ory_2005
12-25-2012, 12:54 AM
So you bumped the thread just to post that lol. Just go fap to some Griffin porn while you're at it.

RonE Coleman
12-25-2012, 01:17 AM
Still not a Top 5 PF depending on what you consider guys like Melo and Bosh right now.

Method28
12-25-2012, 01:25 AM
Still not a Top 5 PF depending on what you consider guys like Melo and Bosh right now.

Lol sure chief

JRisdabest
12-25-2012, 01:36 AM
Mvp

RonE Coleman
12-25-2012, 01:42 AM
Lol sure chief

Love
Dirk when healthy
LMA
Z Bo
Bosh

Melo is a SF playing PF this year

Method28
12-25-2012, 02:15 AM
Aldridge? Reaaaaaalllllyyyy?
Zbo?
Dirk ISN'T healthy and showed decline last year.

Either you're reaching on your picks or the hate is affecting your judgment cause the man has improved his all-around game

RonE Coleman
12-25-2012, 02:34 AM
Aldridge? Reaaaaaalllllyyyy?
Zbo?
Dirk ISN'T healthy and showed decline last year.

Either you're reaching on your picks or the hate is affecting your judgment cause the man has improved his all-around game

Yes he has improved, that does not make him better than the other guys I mentioned.

Melo has improved his game for my Knicks, it still doesn't make him better than Lebron. Catch my drift?

Cracka2HI!
12-25-2012, 02:59 AM
Ughhh, I wish our fan base was more humble that this. It doesn't matter what happens at this time of the year.

effen5
12-25-2012, 03:01 AM
He still flops alot

JEDean89
12-25-2012, 03:42 AM
man the clippers seem like they got all the pieces

Method28
12-25-2012, 09:13 AM
Ughhh, I wish our fan base was more humble that this. It doesn't matter what happens at this time of the year.

I agree some can over exaggerate however.on this topic i do strongly feel that Griff has earned a top 5 pf spot.

I understand what u mean about improving doesn't make u automatically better than a specific player but i dont think zbo and Aldridge were locks as better players BEFORE Griff improved. Aldridge lacks toughness inside and has shortcomings on d. He is also a very underwhelming rebounder. Zbo is very inconsistent but talented. Ill give you that. Blake however has improved some shortcomings on O and D enough to warrant respect in those areas.
I just don't feel there are very many better options at the PF spot than Griff.