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1_team_1_dream
11-12-2012, 10:47 PM
http://www.nba.com/video/channels/nba_tv/2012/11/13/webber-on-dantoni-hire-short.nba
embarrassing that'S SO DISRESPECTFULL TO MIKE D

DoMeFavors
11-12-2012, 10:50 PM
They are afriad of when Kobe leaves in less than 2 years Phil will leave once again and these good coaches will be gone. Nash still will be playing and they want a good coach to work with him and Dwight.

1_team_1_dream
11-12-2012, 10:53 PM
I see what u saying but then who knows what is going to happen 2 years from now . Get phill resign d howard and then worry about phill leaving. go with brain shaw

PC
11-12-2012, 11:07 PM
It's really not the worst fit...

Has a great relationship with Nash who when healthy will be a nasty P&R combo with Dwight, Kobe respects him, etc. I mean, if the Lakers weren't hiring Phil, I'd say D'Antoni was the next best option:shrug:

ldawg
11-12-2012, 11:11 PM
I see what webber is saying but he dont get jerry point of view. Jerry never like the triangle and was not feeling Princeton either. He like the run and gun style that is more entertaining but they won with the triangle until it ran its course. When Phil left Lakers were not very good either. They were bad on defense played like crap most of the season and got the broom in the playoffs. To be honest if lakers were going to hire Shaw then it was best they kept Brown and tell him to drop the princeton.

1_team_1_dream
11-12-2012, 11:17 PM
I see what webber is saying but he dont get jerry point of view. Jerry never like the triangle and was not feeling Princeton either. He like the run and gun style that is more entertaining. When Phil left Lakers were not very good either. they were bad on defense played like crap most of the season and got the broom in the playoffs. To be honest I lakers were going to hire Shaw then it was best they kept Brown and tell him to drop the princeton

u were worse on D already can u picture now with a coach that does not care about D and does kobe want be a spot up shooter? cayse dantoni has a prob with players posting up aka melo? there is no need for pau in mike d system cause he does not shoot the 3

C-Style
11-12-2012, 11:18 PM
**** the run ad gun style, With Phil that was a for sure championship, now it just makes them 1 of 4 front runners.

rocket
11-12-2012, 11:21 PM
You mad?

ldawg
11-12-2012, 11:23 PM
**** the run ad gun style, With Phil that was a for sure championship, now it just makes them a 1 of 4 front runners.This may sound crazy but i dont think Phil was the answer. If they had more time yes but he is coming in with another complex system where nash and Howard never played.

John Walls Era
11-12-2012, 11:37 PM
He compared player getting tickets to Dantoni quitting on NY? I don't even know if Dantoni quit, his gameplan just didn't deliver.

QUICKTRADE
11-12-2012, 11:51 PM
lakers will be fine and they will shock the west. until nash. kb and d12 is around they will make it happen. people who belittle dan will all be wrong to judge the book by its cover.

ldawg
11-12-2012, 11:55 PM
phil days a done, dude hardly coached his last season with the lakers. IMO i dont think Lakers wanted phil. They interview him out of respect. Even mini dump the triangle. Players dont like it and for sure Nash would not have made sense in it.

RonE Coleman
11-13-2012, 12:41 AM
Who really gives a **** what C webb has to say anyways?

Lakerhead4ever
11-13-2012, 12:59 AM
C. webb hates the lakers.

i cant wait for the post season.

The1_Who_knocks
11-13-2012, 01:30 AM
He mad

AYozzy
11-13-2012, 01:32 AM
C Webb for president

Lakers will lose to Nuggets or Memphis in 2nd round

TopsyTurvy
11-13-2012, 01:49 AM
I'd love to be a fly on the wall when the Lakers asked D'Antoni about what happened in New York (if it even came up).

raiderposting
11-13-2012, 03:38 AM
lol chris webber just hates the lakers.

ZebraCity916
11-13-2012, 04:08 AM
I may look like a homer, but Webber's right.

Tell me how he's not.

venom518
11-13-2012, 04:17 AM
I know Dantoni has gained the rep of being a non defensive coach, but please stop saying he doesn't care about defense. Dantoni was only playing with the cards he was dealt in Phoenix and NY. He was surrounded by guys who did not care to play defense. Now he will be surrounded by a multiple DPOY in Howard, former DPOY in Artest, and 9x NBA Denfensive 1st team in Bryant. Let's see how it goes.

raiderposting
11-13-2012, 04:34 AM
lakers are going to be very fun to watch, thats a given.

NYYCowboys
11-13-2012, 04:35 AM
C-Webb has a point. The Knicks were 18-24 under D'Antoni last year and 18-6 after he quit (and 4-0 this year). There has to be something to that. Maybe he quit on the players maybe the players quit on him. Either way, the Lakers job is probably the most glamourous job in the league, and how he got it is a little surprising to me. Not saying he's not a good fit, but I think Shaw would be better.

JasonJohnHorn
11-13-2012, 10:03 AM
I don't think he was disrespectful. He admitted saying he didn't know the situation and said he was speaking as a fan, saying he wanted to know how Mike 'antoni got the job. I think a lot of fans want to know that. Why was Nate McMillen not interviewed? Why wasn't Sloan interviewed? Why was Shaw not interviewed, and why was Shaw not given the job in the first place? And what was it that prevented the team from hiring Phil Jackson?

These are some good questions. Fans deserve to know the process.

As for Mike 'antoni quitting during the season, I think CWebb is being a bit harsh. We don't know what was going on. CWebb may be right. He is certainly right that they played better after he left. But the Knicks may have pressured him to step down and let him do it that way to save face instead of being fired. But, I mean, Jerry Sloan stepped down half-way through the season and I didn't see anything wrong with that. Sometimes it's just best to walk away from a situation. If you are getting things done, or things aren't going right, sometimes you need to take a step back and rethink things.

ClearSoulForce
11-13-2012, 10:23 AM
I think the better question is how in the hell did Chris Webber get a job? Dude seriously could pass as a ******.

Hustla23
11-13-2012, 10:27 AM
A better question is "How the heck did Webber get any sort of position as an analyst?"

I've never heard him say anything remotely intelligent, not to mention that he has a very poor grasp of the English language.

Spiderman 1nner
11-13-2012, 11:02 AM
There's a reason Chris Webber isn't in some sort of front office role and he's nothing more than an analyst, he clearly doesn't understand basketball operations. The way I see it, you've got a team that clearly has defensive chemistry and some elite defensive talents that will make plays on their own; its the offensive continuity that they lack. Now the triangle would've benefitted Howard, pau, and Kobe but wouldn't have utilized Steve Nash. I know everyone talks about how Dantoni's offense isn't designed for getting it into the post but you know what? Neither Dwight nor Pau are dominant post players, their post moves are pretty finesse. Dwight always seems to do some little fade away sky hook BS and Pau's game is more fade away jumpers, neither one really bangs it on the opponent as much as they should so why not go with more of a pick n roll oriented offense where Pau has flourished in the past, Nash has put up MVP seasons and Kobe and Dwight obviously have the athletic ability and basketball IQ to succeed in. I think the way they saw it was they didn't bring in Nash to play Fisher's role, they brought him in to run the offense and he just wouldn't be able to in the triangle but he was a two time MVP for dantoni so whose to say he can't put up those numbers or better with this team

Nycbball08
11-13-2012, 11:43 AM
lakers will be fine and they will shock the west. until nash. kb and d12 is around they will make it happen. people who belittle dan will all be wrong to judge the book by its cover.

I bet you didn't say that when he coached the Knicks..

Nycbball08
11-13-2012, 11:52 AM
I know Dantoni has gained the rep of being a non defensive coach, but please stop saying he doesn't care about defense. Dantoni was only playing with the cards he was dealt in Phoenix and NY. He was surrounded by guys who did not care to play defense. Now he will be surrounded by a multiple DPOY in Howard, former DPOY in Artest, and 9x NBA Denfensive 1st team in Bryant. Let's see how it goes.

lol.. Now you laker fans are gonna see first hand what Knicks fans had to put up with under D'Antoni from the media, all the no defense talk...

Blackryder45
11-13-2012, 12:06 PM
http://www.nba.com/video/channels/nba_tv/2012/11/13/webber-on-dantoni-hire-short.nba
embarrassing that'S SO DISRESPECTFULL TO MIKE D

No its not, I think my biggest beef was not we did not get Phil, but WHY IN THE HELLLL MIKE D get the Job. Like WTF. People keep saying cause we want to run and gun and thats whats winning..... huh since when? that was only last year. The dallas team that won was def not run and gun actually the teams that won in this decade more than 3/4's of them were not run and gun?? SO what the hell is this?

If this is a Jerry move he going senial, When the hell has Jerry buss told the team how to play and they win a Ship???..... NEVER. This is retarted in more ways than just not getting Phil.

Before4
11-13-2012, 12:21 PM
I'd take Nat McMillan over Mike D. Nate did more with less in Portland, every team he coached had injured stars. Not only has he done more, but his teams play defense.

JiffyMix88
11-13-2012, 12:26 PM
whats funny is at the end he says "after saying all of that....I WOULD LOVE TO PLAY FOR DANTONI" lol

koreancabbage
11-13-2012, 12:30 PM
for nash obviously.

PlezPlayDKnicks
11-13-2012, 12:30 PM
Can't wait for Dantoni to prove people wrong..

He115ing
11-13-2012, 01:47 PM
I know Dantoni has gained the rep of being a non defensive coach, but please stop saying he doesn't care about defense. Dantoni was only playing with the cards he was dealt in Phoenix and NY. He was surrounded by guys who did not care to play defense. Now he will be surrounded by a multiple DPOY in Howard, former DPOY in Artest, and 9x NBA Denfensive 1st team in Bryant. Let's see how it goes.

False. Last season Woodson took the same roster right after Dantoni and made the team into a top 5 defensive team by the end of the season.
Dantoni does not deserve to coach any NBA team.

ManningToTyree
11-13-2012, 02:08 PM
Lakers will be a lot of fun on offense. I just don't see the defense being up to par to win a ship. It is like Dantoni's Suns all over again.

C_Mund
11-13-2012, 02:31 PM
False. Last season Woodson took the same roster right after Dantoni and made the team into a top 5 defensive team by the end of the season.
Dantoni does not deserve to coach any NBA team.

Dantoni has always coached teams that allow a lot of ppg, but his points per possession has always been around average. His offenses run a lot of possessions but that doesn't mean that they allow points at a greater pace than most.

Gritz
11-13-2012, 02:37 PM
Lakers contacted Phil about the coaching vacancy, Phil agreed to let them visit in his home.

Mitch and Jim visited Phil in which Phil expressed the benefits he would like to have other then being the head coach. This enraged Jim and an argument broke out (or some sort of bad blood rose).

Jim gave Phil an ultimatum of lowering his demands no later then tomorrow (Monday) or they will look in another direction.

Jim contacted D'antoni (by phone), decided he wanted to go with him before he even called, they discussed numbers, he faxed over the contract, D'antoni signed it, sent it back. Jim told Mitch, Mitch was shocked.

Since Mitch and Phil are coo, Mitch snuck off and called Phil at midnight. (You only call in the middle of the night because of shocking news that can't wait until the next day or because of an emergency).

Phil was pissed, started cussin and stuff, Mitch was agreeing with all the insults Phil made of Jim. Mitch ultimately had to get off the phone because Jim walked back in the room.

The End

numba1CHANGsta
11-13-2012, 02:39 PM
Stop saying "when Kobe leaves in 2 years" just cuz his contract is up in 2 years doesnt mean he will retire in two years :facepalm:

He115ing
11-13-2012, 02:44 PM
Dantoni has always coached teams that allow a lot of ppg, but his points per possession has always been around average. His offenses run a lot of possessions but that doesn't mean that they allow points at a greater pace than most.

One thing is looking at number, another thing is actually looking at how the team plays defense under Dantoni. He absolutely gives no guidance on defense. In NY for example, switching under Dantoni was horrible. Knicks would always end up with either a pg guarding a center in the low post or a PF or Center guarding a pg or sg on the perimeter.

Also Dantoni never made adjustments. I remember this game against Celtics last season where Pierce ended up being guarded by Tony Douglass 10 times in a row in the low post and scored every single time. Not a single change was made by Mr. Pringles even after a time out.

you also never hear him say anything else other than "go, go, go"

the dude is a joke.

Im_in_Mia_bish
11-13-2012, 02:53 PM
I guess Phil doesn't win all the time.

and.. and.. and..

D'antoni struggled to use Melo, JR Smith, and Amare in his system, so its going to be interesting to see how he uses Kobe and Gasol.

however expect to see nonstop nash/howard p&rs, and both lead the league last year from points off of p&rs.

ewing
11-13-2012, 03:12 PM
I guess Phil doesn't win all the time.

and.. and.. and..

D'antoni struggled to use Melo, JR Smith, and Amare in his system, so its going to be interesting to see how he uses Kobe and Gasol.

however expect to see nonstop nash/howard p&rs, and both lead the league last year from points off of p&rs.


I think Gasol will play out the high post and really enjoy it. Kobe pounds the ball a bit much for Dantoni's liking and it will be a game of give and take. I think both will have to adjust (Mike allowing more isos then he would like and Kobe spreading the floor and playing catch and shoot basketball).

I really don't see Meta fitting in Mike's offense though. You have to be able to make quick decisions and that is something he didn't do even in his Artest days. Mike will adjust to the ball sticking in Kobes hands sometimes but i don't think he will have the patience for World Peace


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Gram
11-13-2012, 06:15 PM
Chris Webber.

Gram
11-13-2012, 06:16 PM
Mike D'Antoni.

Punk
11-13-2012, 06:58 PM
So, D'antoni admits he can't win without Nash :laugh2:


• He talked about being reunited with Steve Nash: “I’ve already left him once and that didn’t go so good. I’m not going to do that again.”

#Shumpert Up
11-13-2012, 07:45 PM
have fun LA LA Land ;)

rwynyc
11-14-2012, 01:29 AM
C-Webb has a point. The Knicks were 18-24 under D'Antoni last year and 18-6 after he quit (and 4-0 this year). There has to be something to that. Maybe he quit on the players maybe the players quit on him. Either way, the Lakers job is probably the most glamourous job in the league, and how he got it is a little surprising to me. Not saying he's not a good fit, but I think Shaw would be better.


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