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shep33
11-09-2012, 06:10 AM
Shaq on TNT: "Iím going on the record. Best center in the West right now is DeAndre Jordan. You heard it here first." Um, Dwight? #Lakers




Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter/tag/los_angeles_lakers#ixzz2BibJV9pq

To be fair he said "right now". Still we know he probably didn't mean it in this sense. But putting him over Dwight and Marc Gasol is pretty ridiculous.

I like DJ, but he's averaging 11.8 ppg and 7.5 rpg this year.

Cracka2HI!
11-09-2012, 06:17 AM
While DJ is a far better player than last year Shaq is foolish for that statement.

shep33
11-09-2012, 06:23 AM
Yeah. I do like what DJ has done over the past 2. Still a long ways to go, but he's getting better. He needs to this year, cause Blake's elbow might be a problem on some nights

Bulls_fan90
11-09-2012, 06:27 AM
He's playing out of his mind at the moment. That FG% :drool:

Cracka2HI!
11-09-2012, 06:30 AM
Wow, I'm just watching the post game show now and they are really showing DJ some love! It really is obvious he worked his *** off!

Cracka2HI!
11-09-2012, 06:36 AM
Yeah. I do like what DJ has done over the past 2. Still a long ways to go, but he's getting better. He needs to this year, cause Blake's elbow might be a problem on some nightsNo doubt! Not to mention Blake was hurt in the playoffs. DJ taking some of the load off of Blake could only help.


He's playing out of his mind at the moment. That FG% :drool:

The thing is he should be able to do this every night. The shots he's making are ungaurdable. There is really now way teams can double DJ. He needs to make more FT's but he did make 5 in a row tonight. No reason he shouldn't average 20 a game.

KingPosey
11-09-2012, 06:36 AM
ya because DJ is going to continue the trend of 20 a game on 80% shooting.

The1_Who_knocks
11-09-2012, 07:06 AM
hah

c.c.
11-09-2012, 07:09 AM
D. Jordan been a fav of minds but Shaq will put anyone in front of D. Howard because he clearly dislikes him. With both of them being in the same Conference and Divison, we will the chance to judge off their head to head performance against one another.

thenaj17
11-09-2012, 07:40 AM
It's becoming more and more obvious how much of a moron Shaq really is.

Dwight and Marc Gasol have been better than DJ so far this year. Is Shaq going to change his mind every time someone has 2-3 good games.

eternal slumber
11-09-2012, 07:44 AM
and we are talking about Shaq's opinion?

Nycbball08
11-09-2012, 07:55 AM
He and Barkley really needs to retire...

JasonJohnHorn
11-09-2012, 08:28 AM
Shaq must have a serious hate-on for Howard. What a fool. And what about Marc Gasol?

Heediot
11-09-2012, 08:41 AM
How scary good will the Clippers be in the future with cp3, bledsoe, dj and blake hitting full stride?

Leftcoast_yg
11-09-2012, 08:58 AM
Best C in the west??? Howard, Big Al, Duncan, Marc Gasol say Bonjour'

Jint.
11-09-2012, 09:00 AM
poo poo Shaq

DanG
11-09-2012, 09:10 AM
He needs attention. He knows Dwight has a chance to do the same thing he did in a lakers uniform so he just keeps telling bullcrap.

I Rock Shaqs
11-09-2012, 09:11 AM
LOL are clipper fans really as ridiculous as their announcers? Probably.

Nomar
11-09-2012, 09:58 AM
Shaq is such a hater and it's sad because he has no reason to be jealous of other players like he is.

Andrew32
11-09-2012, 10:06 AM
Jordan controls the West.
Lopez controls the East.

Case closed.

Im_in_Mia_bish
11-09-2012, 10:07 AM
This is why I like Barkley over shaq. Barkley doesn't make predictions like this, he analyzes or tries to.

Shaq is just trolling lol

kbtwofour
11-09-2012, 10:46 AM
Why do people care what Shaq has to say? His hatred for Dwight clouds his judgement. DJ is not even in the top 3 centers in the West. Dwight, Gasol, and Duncan are all better.

Kenny Powders
11-09-2012, 10:49 AM
He needs attention. He knows Dwight has a chance to do the same thing he did in a lakers uniform so he just keeps telling bullcrap.

I hate when people tell bullcrap.

thenaj17
11-09-2012, 10:50 AM
Jordan controls the West.
Lopez controls the East.

Case closed.

:laugh2:

Raidaz4Life
11-09-2012, 11:01 AM
So.... he is just the best center in the West because Brook Lopez is the best center in the league.... right?

SteBO
11-09-2012, 11:05 AM
Jordan controls the West.
Lopez controls the East.

Case closed.
How about mentioning someone that actually has a ring to prove his dominance.....Eddy Curry? :shrug:

(Trust me, he's going there)

Baller1
11-09-2012, 11:15 AM
Well to start the season, DJ has been... So right now Shaq is right. :shrug:

mlisica19
11-09-2012, 11:20 AM
He does not think highly of Dwight Howard. Hes come out and said it, its not personal he just doesnt like his style of play for a big man and he says his stats dont show it.

He has come out and said this a 1000x, in his day Dwight would be a PF and not a Center. He plays too much of a European style. In many ways hes right...

Idk about DeAndre Jordan though... But the guy has shown vast improvement in stats with more time and it should only go up. While Dwight is surrounded by 3 superstars and is being the go to guy to blame in their losses for missed FT and turnovers.

mlisica19
11-09-2012, 11:22 AM
So.... he is just the best center in the West because Brook Lopez is the best center in the league.... right?

Shaq does believe the best centers in the league (offseason) are Brook and Robin Lopez... as well as Marc Gasol. Dwight is up there for him but he doesnt even classify him as a real center. hes more of a forward he states, he doesnt like that euro style as the 5th player and thats how he feels. If he was coach, he would choose a center that played more like him. Back to the basket and diesel it down low.

Cant blame the guy for his beliefs, its all opinionated and his belief of basketball is differ than most but many other pros have seemed to agree with him

SteBO
11-09-2012, 11:25 AM
Shaq does believe the best centers in the league (offseason) are Brook and Robin Lopez... as well as Marc Gasol. Dwight is up there for him but he doesnt even classify him as a real center. hes more of a forward he states, he doesnt like that euro style as the 5th player and thats how he feels. If he was coach, he would choose a center that played more like him. Back to the basket and diesel it down low.

Cant blame the guy for his beliefs, its all opinionated and his belief of basketball is differ than most but many other pros have seemed to agree with him
I disagree with that, but it's his opinion and that okay. But at what point is he going to get with the times and realize that the game has evolved? It's not just in regards to Dwight he pulls this with, he does the same with the more athletic PG's in the league. It's why he thinks Rondo is without question the best PG in the league.

lol, please
11-09-2012, 01:41 PM
Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter/tag/los_angeles_lakers#ixzz2BibJV9pq

To be fair he said "right now". Still we know he probably didn't mean it in this sense. But putting him over Dwight and Marc Gasol is pretty ridiculous.

I like DJ, but he's averaging 11.8 ppg and 7.5 rpg this year.

Putting any of them over Bogut is ridiculous. And he's out for 10 days.

lol, please
11-09-2012, 01:43 PM
This is why I like Barkley over shaq. Barkley doesn't make predictions like this, he analyzes or tries to.

Shaq is just trolling lol

trolling is forum slang. People need to stop trying to transcend the word into other areas, it isn't funny and it doesn't apply. Extend your vocabulary if need be.

benzni
11-09-2012, 01:45 PM
what about Cousins

18 ppg
10 reb

ClearSoulForce
11-09-2012, 01:47 PM
Howard, Jefferson, Duncan (as a C), M. Gasol, Kaman, Gortat are all easily better... Take away Paul from Jordan and over half of his games he scores 2 points or less. Isn't that great of a rebounder either. He's a great shot blocker but that's it.

Bogut is better as well.

Corey
11-09-2012, 01:48 PM
http://i.imgur.com/4rwt9.png

alexander_37
11-09-2012, 01:50 PM
There is a reason Shaq is not a Mensa member....

lol, please
11-09-2012, 01:53 PM
There is a reason Shaq is not a Mensa member....

There is also a reason he is widely accepted as one of the greatest to ever play the game.

:violin:

shep33
11-09-2012, 01:55 PM
I think Corey's post explains everything

alexander_37
11-09-2012, 01:56 PM
There is also a reason he is widely accepted as on of the greatest to ever play the game.

:violin:

Maybe if he fell on top of Jordan?

TyrionLannister
11-09-2012, 01:59 PM
Lol Shaq trolling Dwight hard.

kylem4711
11-09-2012, 02:38 PM
he was joking.... come on now.

MrfadeawayJB
11-09-2012, 02:42 PM
shaq is officially ********. Take him off tv for making dumb statements. Jordan has developed, but he still is VERY limited in the post. He gets at least 60% of his points from fastbreak dunks. To say he is better than Dwight, Gasol, Pekovic, Bogut lol and countless others is silly

Blitzbolt
11-09-2012, 03:28 PM
This is a B!@ch slap to Marc Gasol looking at the number and impact he makes.

BKdoubleStacker
11-09-2012, 03:30 PM
if anyone was watching it, he said it sarcastically while taking a pronounced sip of coffee with his eyes shifting

jmoney85
11-09-2012, 03:35 PM
stop clowning shaq.... he is a member of PSD

Randy West
11-09-2012, 03:35 PM
Him saying stuff like this is just showing how petty of a person Shaq has become.

Yeah sure Shaq, Jordan is the best center what a buffoon!!!

Lake_Show2416
11-09-2012, 03:52 PM
we get it Shaq, ur jealous of & dont like Dwight

dee279
11-09-2012, 04:06 PM
we get it Shaq, ur jealous of & dont like Dwight

Jealous? I doubt it. Dwight doesnt have anything except a dunk contest over shaq. Other than that, Dwight cant even hold Shaq's shoes.

Minimal
11-09-2012, 04:07 PM
If DJ Mbenga and Howard were the only centers in the league, he would still say that Mbenga is better.

He115ing
11-09-2012, 04:21 PM
Shaq is a hater and is extremely biased. His opinion in this matter is worth as much as a homeless guy saying that the end is near.

ewmania
11-09-2012, 04:41 PM
whats funny is shaq throws 28-15 at dwight all the time

but guys who arent even close to that statistic is better than dwight?

brook lopez gets 6rbs a game and dwight isnt the best because he doesnt get 28-15 ? lmao shaq hate makes no sense

Andrew32
11-09-2012, 04:43 PM
Do some of you really think Shaq is being serious...?

My lord.

Hawkeye15
11-09-2012, 04:45 PM
Shaq needs to get over his grudge against anything Lakers, or risk not being taken seriously regarding anything that comes out of his mouth.

MetroMan
11-09-2012, 05:52 PM
Shaq is crying for attention

theheatles
11-09-2012, 06:02 PM
lol why does he always praise clippers?

I remember last year he had like 4 or 5 clippers for his projected west all stars

Go_NUGGETS
11-09-2012, 06:10 PM
I'll take Javale McGee over Jordan anyday!

Raps08-09 Champ
11-09-2012, 06:12 PM
He's playing very well right now but he's not the best in the West 5 games into the season.

agureghian
11-09-2012, 06:18 PM
Demarcus Cousins, Pau and Marc Gasol are better than Jordan.

UPRock
11-09-2012, 06:36 PM
Nope, the best two centers in the west right now are Dwight Howard and Marc Gasol.

KnicksorBust
11-09-2012, 06:42 PM
Shaq needs to get over his grudge against anything Lakers, or risk not being taken seriously regarding anything that comes out of his mouth.

To be honest, isn't it already too late?

Cracka2HI!
11-09-2012, 07:33 PM
While I don't agree with Shaq a lot posts in this thread are made by people who haven't seen DJ play this year. He is getting most of his points from running the floor getting good position down low and displaying what looks like a dominant baby hook...with both hands. No way is he the best but his numbers are down so far due to 2 terrible games. The guy has been consistant since the start of training camp. DJ is a baller now!

ImgoodHarbaughU
11-09-2012, 07:36 PM
Shaq is a flaming idiot

John Walls Era
11-09-2012, 07:36 PM
He does even less than Dwight does. So he makes a few hook shots on Thursday and Shaq gets caught up in the moment like usual.

jericho
11-09-2012, 07:42 PM
i know sometimes they get them to say ooutrageous thing to create controversy cuz if every one agreed with each other the show would be boring but
shaq just doesnt belong there no way at all i preffer listening to barkley

Gritz
11-09-2012, 08:12 PM
He ain't lyin

MetroMan
11-09-2012, 09:50 PM
Shaqs just mad because his little hoe (Kobe) found a new sugar daddy in Dwight.

Avenged
11-09-2012, 10:02 PM
Well to start the season, DJ has been... So right now Shaq is right. :shrug:

Not really.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&p1=howardw01&y1=2013&p2=jordade01&y2=2013

DJ has definitely improved though but he's got ways to go to be the best center.

LA_Raiders
11-09-2012, 11:22 PM
A&M baby!!!

lol at Shaq

Cracka2HI!
11-09-2012, 11:56 PM
One thing I will say if Shaq was actually serious is that DJ looks WAY better when you watching him than his stats indicate. I actually can't believe his PER is 13.8. I don't know how that could be possible while shooting 75%.

Avenged
11-09-2012, 11:58 PM
One thing I will say if Shaq was actually serious is that DJ looks WAY better when you watching him than his stats indicate. I actually can't believe his PER is 13.8. I don't know how that could be possible while shooting 75%.

His PER is 21.1

KnicksorBust
11-10-2012, 12:18 AM
Not really.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&p1=howardw01&y1=2013&p2=jordade01&y2=2013

DJ has definitely improved though but he's got ways to go to be the best center.

When your TS% is lower than your FG%... that's a problem. :laugh: I like DeAndre but let's call a spade a spade. He's a borderline all-star and if I had a damn gun to my head I'd say he NEVER makes an all-star team.

Jarvo
11-10-2012, 01:26 AM
:laugh: Shaq popped a molly or something.

Cracka2HI!
11-10-2012, 01:37 AM
His PER is 21.1

Where did you get that from? ESPN has 13.9 and I would certainly rather refer to the site that has DJ at 21.1. He might have more misses from the FT line than the Field. He's been very efficient.

smiddy012
11-10-2012, 04:42 AM
Shaq is hilarious. He's just trying to get a rise out of DH.

smiddy012
11-10-2012, 04:44 AM
Do some of you really think Shaq is being serious...?

My lord.

:clap:

Someone gets it here.

Sadds The Gr8
11-10-2012, 05:10 AM
Shaq is the TNT Skip Bayless

mjt20mik
11-10-2012, 05:10 AM
So I guess it's true. People are still paying attention to Shaq and his horrible horrible analysis of players. Dude is more biased than Tommy Heinsohn.

:facepalm:

MintBerryCrunch
11-10-2012, 05:54 AM
DeAndre Jordan has literally no offensive game at all.
People say all Blake Griffin does is dunk , Blake's offensive game is about 8x better than DeAndre's . Absolutely useless on anything other than fast breaks
Point is : I'm 100% sure Shaq is joking.

3ballbomber
11-10-2012, 09:42 AM
We all know Shaq HATES Dwight Howard. So we can pretty much safely say this is yet another knock on Howard.

knicks=love
11-10-2012, 12:40 PM
who gives a ****? it's his opinion.

Andrew32
11-10-2012, 12:42 PM
If you watched the show he was clearly joking and I think he winked also.

People just love to make mountains out of molehills.

StarvingKnick22
11-10-2012, 12:45 PM
Shaq is a butthurt idiot.

tr3ymill3r
11-10-2012, 01:10 PM
Asik is the best center in the West by Shaqs logic.

HuRRiCaNeS324
11-10-2012, 01:27 PM
Such a hypocrite. He says the best centers are those that can score with their back to the basket with a variety of post moves. This guy only scores off freaking dunks... He's just a worse version of Dwight, because at least Dwight has some post moves.

If he's gonna make stupid statements, at least he should be consistent...

Sadds The Gr8
11-10-2012, 02:46 PM
Such a hypocrite. He says the best centers are those that can score with their back to the basket with a variety of post moves. This guy only scores off freaking dunks... He's just a worse version of Dwight, because at least Dwight has some post moves.

If he's gonna make stupid statements, at least he should be consistent...
that's how i know you haven't been watching Clipper games. The only reason he made this statement was because Jordan has really improved his post game and has solid left handed and right handed jump hooks. that's as huge surprise seeing as he wouldn't even be able to hit a jump hook with a 3 year old guarding him last year,

TheSource
11-10-2012, 03:16 PM
Well to credit DeAndre he has been working hard to improve his post/offensive game..

Aleksandar
11-10-2012, 05:18 PM
Man, Shaq is starting to be ridiculous!

amos1er
11-10-2012, 07:03 PM
Shaq is the TNT Skip Bayless

Haha...nice sig.

Shaq is getting ridiculous though. He needs to just STFU already and stop hating.

LAKERMANIA
11-10-2012, 07:15 PM
:facepalm: Get over it Shaq!

P Harvy
11-10-2012, 07:18 PM
Pekovic is better than DJ come on now son

ManRam
11-10-2012, 07:25 PM
People still care what Shaq says? That's cute!

Ebbs
11-10-2012, 07:29 PM
DeMarcus Cousins >

justinnum1
11-10-2012, 07:40 PM
slighlty off topic, but dmf would appreicate it

starus
Right now, Brook Lopez has a higher rebound rate (16.9) than Dwight Howard (15.7)

PlezPlayDKnicks
11-10-2012, 07:43 PM
slighlty off topic, but dmf would appreicate it

starus

A true definition of stats lying lol

mlisica19
11-10-2012, 07:46 PM
People have to just understand that Shaq has a different opinion on what a center is...

I trust his opinion far greater than all of yours, since hes played the position for so long... dominated the position for so long and watches the game today as part of his job. Some of us watch highlights and look up stats and pretend like we know whats up.

Shaq, believes Howard is a PF. His judgement on a center is playing the North American kind of center he grew up with and played. Howard is more of a European style player

justinnum1
11-10-2012, 07:47 PM
A true definition of stats lying lol

funny, i didn't make that up...

KnickaBocka.44
11-10-2012, 07:52 PM
When is Shaq going to get over trolling Dwight?

justinnum1
11-10-2012, 07:53 PM
When is Shaq going to get over trolling Dwight?

I hope never, it's funny.