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Ron!n
11-07-2012, 02:46 PM
#Mets and Jason Bay have worked out an agreement that makes him an unconditional free agent. Bay Era in Flushing is over


#Mets did not announce terms of buyout but Bay owed $19M between 2013 salary ($16M) and 2014 buyout ($3M), so it's probably lge pct of that

Sherman

benzni
11-07-2012, 02:47 PM
about time.

That was such a tough break for them

fingerbang
11-07-2012, 02:48 PM
He's going to be a great signing for a team. The Mets are such an unlucky franchise that he'll mash the second he puts on a different uniform.

VRP723
11-07-2012, 02:50 PM
Come to the Dodgers and be our 4th OF/starting LF until Crawford comes back!

keymax
11-07-2012, 02:51 PM
Since I really like the Mets I watched Bay a lot during his tenure. It was really hard to watch. It's hard to feel bad for a guy that is making that much money to play baseball, but he played hard every second and carried himself with a lot of class.
unfortuatetely this move was inevitable.

Jeffy25
11-07-2012, 02:53 PM
And to think of the comps between Bay and Holliday in 2009

I remember Cardinals fans wanting Bay, and letting Holliday walk because of the financial improvement it would have caused.

Btw, who did the Red Sox gain by letting Bay walk?

Anthony Raunado and Brandon Workman

Nymfan87
11-07-2012, 02:53 PM
He's going to be a great signing for a team. The Mets are such an unlucky franchise that he'll mash the second he puts on a different uniform.

Yup...our hitting coach for Bay's first year here completely ****ed him up. Bay changed his stance and swing to focus more on gap to gap hitting, instead of just mashing fly balls like he had done for his whole career. The two concussions also haven't helped.

Ron!n
11-07-2012, 02:55 PM
Bay is getting all $21M he is owed, the $16M salary, the $3M buyout and the $2M left on a signing bonus. Some is being deferred #Mets

Sherman again. Guess they don't save anything.

Jeffy25
11-07-2012, 02:57 PM
Sherman again. Guess they don't save anything.

If he gets signed somewhere else, they likely don't have to pay the pro-rated portion of that money.

And they get to defer some of it.

But it's more so a move to move on from him I believe.

keymax
11-07-2012, 02:58 PM
My guess: He will be on the Houston Astros in 2013 as their LF/DH. It's not like they have anything to lose.

The1_Who_knocks
11-07-2012, 03:00 PM
He'll sign with the dodgers :facepalm:

Nomar
11-07-2012, 03:04 PM
Orioles or Red Sox for 1 year, $4M.

Pinstripe pride
11-07-2012, 03:04 PM
wow. how bad do you have to be for a team to want to pay you 20 million to play somehwere else..............


can't blame the mets though. bay can only do harm being on their team

SenorGato
11-07-2012, 03:07 PM
I'm curious to see who gives him a shot....Maybe throw him in as the lefty killer in a platoon as he posted a .918 OPS against them in 2011, the last time he was moderately healthy for an extended period of time.

More-Than-Most
11-07-2012, 03:16 PM
If its cheap I would love the Phillies to take a shot on him...Low risk/High reward

dodgersuck
11-07-2012, 03:18 PM
I see a Red Sox reuinion

MJL80
11-07-2012, 03:20 PM
Now he'll go back to hitting .270 with 40 HRs and 100 RBIs

HowFit
11-07-2012, 03:20 PM
Sherman again. Guess they don't save anything.

Wow! Wanting to rid of him badly!

Station 13
11-07-2012, 03:22 PM
WTF went wrong with Bay? I know he suffer a concussion, but he stopped hitting way before that.

ManningToTyree
11-07-2012, 03:23 PM
Its finally over.

ManningToTyree
11-07-2012, 03:24 PM
WTF went wrong with Bay? I know he suffer a concussion, but he stopped hitting way before that.

Nobody knows. He put on a mets uniform and forgot how to play.

ReJo
11-07-2012, 03:25 PM
Now if only my boss would give me a $21 million dollar buy out not to work

******2017
11-07-2012, 03:28 PM
WTF went wrong with Bay? I know he suffer a concussion, but he stopped hitting way before that.
The Mets organization is like the Bermuda triangle. There's something happening but you can't figure it out.

Nymfan87
11-07-2012, 03:34 PM
WTF went wrong with Bay? I know he suffer a concussion, but he stopped hitting way before that.

See my previous post in this thread:


Yup...our hitting coach for Bay's first year here completely ****ed him up. Bay changed his stance and swing to focus more on gap to gap hitting, instead of just mashing fly balls like he had done for his whole career. The two concussions also haven't helped.

MetsFanatic19
11-07-2012, 03:35 PM
I don't think some of you know how bad he actually was: he was struggling to hit .150! He was historically bad. He's a guy who shows great class and plays hard, but from a business perspective, he can go **** himself.

MetsFanatic19
11-07-2012, 03:37 PM
Citi Field didn't help either - that ballpark ate power numbers for breakfast.

Wilpon 2016!

zae316
11-07-2012, 03:51 PM
I would love 2 see the Tigers take a flyer on him....

SpecialFNK
11-07-2012, 03:55 PM
the Mets are paying everything and getting nothing. couldn't the Mets have agreed to pay him everything, and trade him somewhere to get something? couldn't a team have given up a low grade prospect knowing the Mets would be covering all of Bay's contract.

Nymfan87
11-07-2012, 04:01 PM
the Mets are paying everything and getting nothing. couldn't the Mets have agreed to pay him everything, and trade him somewhere to get something? couldn't a team have given up a low grade prospect knowing the Mets would be covering all of Bay's contract.

I'm assuming a part of the deal is what the Mets don't have to pay him whatever salary he makes next season because he was made an unconditional free agent. For example, if someone gives him $3 million, the Mets will owe him $18 million instead of $21 million.

Or at least I'm assuming that's what they're doing. I'd also be interested to see how much of the money is being deferred.

YankeesR#2
11-07-2012, 04:08 PM
And to think of the comps between Bay and Holliday in 2009

I remember Cardinals fans wanting Bay, and letting Holliday walk because of the financial improvement it would have caused.

Btw, who did the Red Sox gain by letting Bay walk?

Anthony Raunado and Brandon Workman

Don't forget the $100 million they saved by not signing him.

BradHolt4CYoung
11-07-2012, 04:28 PM
Love this.

Bay is a really nice guy, very like able. Too bad he sucked on the field.

Pinstripe pride
11-07-2012, 04:37 PM
yankees will give him a 10 year deal..............

Jeffy25
11-07-2012, 05:10 PM
I could totally see Houston signing him to a one year deal.

bagwell368
11-07-2012, 05:17 PM
I see a Red Sox reuinion

You need to consider how much bad blood and bad words were passed between the Sox and Bay on his way out of town.

He's been in decline since '06. I tried telling Mets fans the day they signed him they were making a huge mistake. They said I was jealous... hahahha

He's done. His batting stats outside of that park are nothing to brag about either. He can't run or field, and his bat speed/ability to drive the ball are end if the line all the way.

He should sign for a day with Pittsburgh to retire a Pirate and go on w/ the rest of his life.

RTL
11-07-2012, 05:34 PM
Houston or Cleveland are where I think he goes

nymetsrule
11-07-2012, 05:36 PM
I am the happiest person ever.

Tragedy
11-07-2012, 05:40 PM
I remember being very upset that the Sox didn't bring him back. Always liked the guy a lot. Seemed like a good guy and was a solid player. Really a shame what happened to him in New York. I assume someone will take a flier on him for a one year deal, but it'll have to be a team that has a stadium that can allow Bay to use his pull power (well, the pull power he used to have anyways). Astros? Who knows.

metswon69
11-07-2012, 05:43 PM
It's funny with all the people saying "low risk, high reward".. :laugh2:

I know guys can rejuvenate their careers with a change of scenery but did anyone actually watch him at the plate last year?

He was god awful aside from the occasional home run, his defense wasn't particularly great either.

He essentially would hit a home run, then go 0 for his next 20, and have no consistency in his swing.

I know the team that signs him will get him for next to nothing but being worth next to nothing would be being generous in describing Jason Bay as a player at this point.

Yankee Clipper
11-07-2012, 05:45 PM
Can't wait to see the cheap deal he is going to get comparatively now.

MetsFanatic19
11-07-2012, 06:15 PM
Bay didn't even look like a major league ballplayer last year. He made Cory Sullivan look great.

I know what you're saying, "Who the **** is Cory Sullivan?"

Exactly.

metswon69
11-07-2012, 06:29 PM
It's not just a swing he is going to need to re-tune.

The guy disappeared in his 3 years here and has had 3 documented concussions, that certainly has factored in to his regression.

Nomar
11-07-2012, 06:53 PM
http://www.weei.com/sports/boston/this-just-in/21239071/source-bay-open-return-red-sox

DieHardColtsfan
11-07-2012, 06:57 PM
I see the Red Sox, O's or Rays pursuing.

ciaban
11-07-2012, 07:29 PM
My guess: He will be on the Houston Astros in 2013 as their LF/DH. It's not like they have anything to lose.

that's not a bad point, he is the kind of hard nose classy guy you want around a young developing team.

metswon69
11-07-2012, 07:49 PM
-0.8 fWAR last year...

Good luck to any team that signs him.

Nomar
11-07-2012, 07:51 PM
Red Sox, Orioles, Astros, Rays, and even Texas could take fliers on him. Should be interesting.

metswon69
11-07-2012, 07:56 PM
Yeah well i am sure he will get the veteran's minimum and not much else.

It might help to get him into a hitter's ballpark, i think Citi Field the way it was constructed prior to this year got into his head too besides all the concussions.

I still don't think it will matter much in the end though, his career is finished to me after watching him this year.

I can't tell you how many times he would hit a lazy ground ball to SS, it seemed like almost every at bat.

Tomahawk27
11-07-2012, 08:09 PM
I remember the backlash the FO received when we traded him for "prospects" that never did anything here. The only guy left is Morris.

Times have changed

Jeffy25
11-07-2012, 08:13 PM
Reds could be a landing spot as well for him, as a 5th outfielder

Rylinkus
11-07-2012, 08:30 PM
It's funny with all the people saying "low risk, high reward".. :laugh2:

I know guys can rejuvenate their careers with a change of scenery but did anyone actually watch him at the plate last year?

He was god awful aside from the occasional home run, his defense wasn't particularly great either.

He essentially would hit a home run, then go 0 for his next 20, and have no consistency in his swing.

I know the team that signs him will get him for next to nothing but being worth next to nothing would be being generous in describing Jason Bay as a player at this point.

Sounds like every player in the lague must be considered high reward.

metswon69
11-07-2012, 08:31 PM
He could possibly end up anywhere in the league lol.

He's a shell of his former self but without question someone is going to bite and hope they catch lightning in a bottle with him.

Yankee Clipper
11-07-2012, 08:32 PM
He could possibly end up anywhere in the league lol.

He's a shell of his former self but without question someone is going to bite and hope they catch lightning in a bottle with him.

The only way I can see that happening is if he signs with a team that has a very hitters friendly park.

metswon69
11-07-2012, 08:36 PM
Sounds like every player in the lague must be considered high reward.

Yeah he had a -.8 fWAR rating last year.

I understand taking a flier on a guy but we see how hard it's been for Justin Morneau to bounce back after the concussion, well Jason has had 3 of them in the last 3 years and it's obviously reflective in his play.

He's averaged a .37 rWAR in 3 seasons with the Mets :laugh2:

metswon69
11-07-2012, 08:37 PM
The only way I can see that happening is if he signs with a team that has a very hitters friendly park.

Yeah i could see a team like the Rays taking a chance on him too.

That's their MO to find veteran guys with prior success and hope they can rejuvenate his career there.

H-MYK
11-07-2012, 08:52 PM
I can see him go to either the Red Sox or Dodgers

YoungStuna
11-07-2012, 08:54 PM
Yup...our hitting coach for Bay's first year here completely ****ed him up. Bay changed his stance and swing to focus more on gap to gap hitting, instead of just mashing fly balls like he had done for his whole career. The two concussions also haven't helped.

That's not it. He just got ****ed mentally and eventually physically.

A fresh start in a hitter's park and a clean bill of health will help him, but he'll never be close to what he was.

Jeffy25
11-07-2012, 08:59 PM
Jason Bay as a Met

1.4 fWAR
1125 PA
117 Runs Created
-3 Defensive Runs Saved
-22.5 Positional Adjustment
Total value of 91.5 net runs totaled in 3 years time
1.1 rWAR

.687 OPS, .234/.318/.369
-1.73 WPA


Paid 66 million, and cost the Red Sox the drafting rights to Brandon Workman (Jed Gyroko, Andrelton Simmons, and Drew Smyly went soon after him)

metswon69
11-07-2012, 09:00 PM
The concussions ****ed him up too...

I know he was playing poorly before that first one in LA but the 2 he had after that certainly did him no favors either.

They went back to his old stance this year, having him pulling the ball more often, and it didn't mean ****.

He's washed up but at the league minimum someone will give him a chance.

Jeffy25
11-07-2012, 09:00 PM
Btw, I would sign him to the Cardinals to be a 5th outfielder in heart beat.

metswon69
11-07-2012, 09:01 PM
Btw, I would sign him to the Cardinals to be a 5th outfielder in heart beat.

Yeah and with the Mets luck he would hit .280 with 25 homers for you next year.

Then i'll spend two days :puke: nonstop.

SenorGato
11-07-2012, 09:05 PM
That's their MO to find veteran guys with prior success and hope they can rejuvenate his career there.

That's been one of the MO of quite a few of the smarter franchises in the league. Yankees got something out of Eric Chavez, Beltran and Berkman for the Cardinals, the Rays have been doing it since at least '08 (Cliff Floyd is one I remember from their WS roster as well as Percival)...Ibanez...Andruw Jones...Bartolo Colon...former stars have been pretty big bargains for the team forward thinking and aggressive enough to make the move.

metswon69
11-07-2012, 09:07 PM
That's been one of the MO of quite a few of the smarter franchises in the league. Yankees got something out of Eric Chavez, Beltran and Berkman for the Cardinals, the Rays have been doing it since at least '08 (Cliff Floyd is one I remember from their WS roster as well as Percival)...Ibanez...Andruw Jones...Bartolo Colon...former stars have been pretty big bargains for the team forward thinking and aggressive enough to make the move.

Yeah but aside from Eric Chavez and Colon, i don't know of a player who's more of a reclamation project that Jason Bay is.

He was god awful last year, it was at times sad to watch.

I know they have in recent years went after guys like Damon, Matsui, Floyd like you mentioned.

That's why i can see them being a logical destination.

Sick Of It All
11-07-2012, 09:23 PM
The guy has no more bat speed.

Jays Claw
11-07-2012, 09:23 PM
Even though he's a Canadian product, AA and the Jays should pass. I understand that it would be a 'low risk, high reward' type of situation, but I just don't want any part of Jason Bay with the Jays' future.

metswon69
11-07-2012, 09:24 PM
The guy has no more bat speed.

This...

Everything is a ground ball to short or a strikeout.

Bay was going up to the plate last year looking to walk with men on base.

That was a positive AB for Jason Bay.

Kashmir13579
11-07-2012, 09:27 PM
:laugh2:

**** this guy.

SenorGato
11-07-2012, 09:50 PM
^ Yeah I f'n hate Sanchez. Ruined football for me this year and last.

JOSKOMANG4
11-07-2012, 10:06 PM
buster olney said tonite on the michael kay show that jason bay will be a cleveland indian when free agency begins

metswon69
11-07-2012, 10:09 PM
buster olney said tonite on the michael kay show that jason bay will be a cleveland indian when free agency begins

See any team will take him for the league minimum lol.

MetsFanatic19
11-07-2012, 11:32 PM
There's league minimum for players who aren't very good, but Bay deserves minimum wage.

Dmac
11-08-2012, 12:02 AM
Somebody will take a chance on him, but he is probably done. He won't get more then a one year deal, and I doubt it will be over a million.

Dugmet
11-08-2012, 12:41 PM
Spring Training invite.

thawv
11-08-2012, 02:48 PM
Where, if anywhere, will Bay end up. It's clear that he can't perform very well without the use of PED's. I believe there are at least a few teams that either provide, encourage, or look the other way with PED's. This is just my feeling, by watching players come and go from team to team. I believe he'll end up with one of teams that I suspect do that. No need to fly off the handle, or start bashing! Like I said, it's my feeling.

Balt, Tor, Cle, Oak, Stl, SF

popo85
11-08-2012, 08:25 PM
Wells your next!

ThisIsTheYear
11-09-2012, 06:11 PM
The Mets organization is like the Bermuda triangle. There's something happening but you can't figure it out.

The greatest analogy i've ever heard.

SportsAndrew25
11-11-2012, 07:25 PM
I know I am a couple days late on this but they had to do it. They could not keep this dead weight on their roster any longer. It is just amazing how badly he fell apart after doing what he did in Boston.

MetsJets0809
11-11-2012, 08:15 PM
The guy lost it. Anyone who signs him will see it. He's horrible. No bat speed at all. He either strikes out, grounds out to short or pops up. Its actually funny after a while, cause you can call one of those three and be right most of the time. The Mets lineup had an abyss when he was in it and it was ridiculous

YoungStuna
11-11-2012, 08:28 PM
He still averaged 408 ft. on his homers this year. Bat speed was there, his head was not.