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Yankees1115
11-03-2012, 08:18 PM
As a lifelong Knicks fan growing up in Brooklyn I was definitely intrigued in seeing the Nets start up this new franchise.

What are your opinions on this team. I just don't think they will be that good regardless of all the offseason hype that came along with it. The starting 5 features 3 very injury prone players, is above average talent wise, but where is the depth in this roster. Outside of possibly Blatche, Brooks, and maybe Watson the bench is sounding pretty weak.

Now that we have an obvious rivalry with the NY verse NY teams, it will be a exciting addition to the NBA to see a new franchise. What are your opinions on this roster?

PurpleJesus
11-03-2012, 08:24 PM
solid, but overpaid roster, that will limit them for awhile.

StarvingKnick22
11-03-2012, 08:29 PM
Yes, but they take the hype to seriously. Right now, its only close because of C.J. Watson. They need to take it a game at a time.

KnicksorBust
11-03-2012, 08:35 PM
Yes. Offensively they are one of the most complete teams in the league.

knicks=love
11-03-2012, 08:38 PM
in before this thread gets destroyed by DoMeFavors

Robbw241
11-03-2012, 08:42 PM
When we were losing by 8 after the 1st quarter, we weren't good. Now that we are winning by 8 after the 2nd, are we really good now? Quick someone make a thread!

RonE Coleman
11-03-2012, 08:43 PM
They will score points but they will get killed by teams who can score down low. Putrid defense

Patrick Ewing33
11-03-2012, 08:46 PM
There starting unite is very very good.. They need a better bench to be a legit contender.

More-Than-Most
11-03-2012, 08:56 PM
Severely overrated. They were Horrid last year and people have them winning damn near 50 games this year. Just an insane jump

Yankees1115
11-03-2012, 09:02 PM
Severely overrated. They were Horrid last year and people have them winning damn near 50 games this year. Just an insane jump

Yeah that's what I'm saying. I have been reading all these 50 win top 4 seed stories and I'm just wondering how. It's the SAME team plus Joe Johnson who is pretty overrated as is. I just don't get it.

LongIslandIcedZ
11-03-2012, 09:03 PM
Nobody knows, its game 1 for them.

Its a healthy squad with a lot of talent, they are nothing like last years team.

AddiX
11-03-2012, 09:09 PM
I think they got a damn good roster. I don't know why so many ppl doubt them, Joe Johnson is going to feel at home w deron Williams setting him up. Wallace as a role-player is great, brook is more than capable.

Bench is questionable, not awful though.

bucketss
11-03-2012, 09:14 PM
there are about as good as the knicks.

effen5
11-03-2012, 09:15 PM
there are about as good as the knicks.

Sounds about right. Both teams has over paid and overrated players.

gatkins11
11-03-2012, 09:23 PM
Sounds about right. Both teams has over paid and overrated players.

Yep.

NetsPaint
11-03-2012, 09:27 PM
Yup, they're good. A strong starting five at every position, and a solid bench. Whether the bench is great or not, it has several solid players.

Yankees1115
11-03-2012, 09:32 PM
there are about as good as the knicks.

Haha we have a deep team this year. Everyone is going to be shocked with our play this year.

I'm really looking forward to this NY-NY rivalry for years to come. Rivalries always make your team play at a completely different level.

KnickaBocka.44
11-03-2012, 09:33 PM
This thread is so premature. It really couldn't even wait until the end of the first game?

B'sCeltsPatsSox
11-03-2012, 09:36 PM
I think of them as a "poor mans" Hawks(circa 08-12.)

effen5
11-03-2012, 09:37 PM
Haha we have a deep team this year. Everyone is going to be shocked with our play this year.

I'm really looking forward to this NY-NY rivalry for years to come. Rivalries always make your team play at a completely different level.

No offense but all I heard from the Knicks fans since you guys picked up melo is championship. You guys aren't even close right now.

xxplayerxx23
11-03-2012, 09:41 PM
No offense but all I heard from the Knicks fans since you guys picked up melo is championship. You guys aren't even close right now.

coming from a bulls fan, hmm makes sense

PurpleJesus
11-03-2012, 09:41 PM
Haha we have a deep team this year. Everyone is going to be shocked with our play this year.

I'm really looking forward to this NY-NY rivalry for years to come. Rivalries always make your team play at a completely different level.

Same story, different year.

KnickaBocka.44
11-03-2012, 09:41 PM
No offense but all I heard from the Knicks fans since you guys picked up melo is championship. You guys aren't even close right now.

We obviously have some offense to put up 100 on Miami and beat them by 20.

jimm120
11-03-2012, 09:43 PM
I think they got a damn good roster. I don't know why so many ppl doubt them, Joe Johnson is going to feel at home w deron Williams setting him up. Wallace as a role-player is great, brook is more than capable.

Bench is questionable, not awful though.

I also think they have a good roster.

ENd of the day, though, they are going from a 22 win and 23 win team the past 2 years.

THAT fact is what makes me think that being a 50 win team is doubtful.

they added Brook Lopez and Joe Johnson but lost Morrow and Green. Upgrades both for the Nets. Still, I don't think its enough.

Bigbadmoffo
11-03-2012, 09:44 PM
Atleast they're getting superstar calls

thrice4
11-03-2012, 09:45 PM
For how much they pay they suck

HowFit
11-03-2012, 09:45 PM
There starting unite is very very good.. They need a better bench to be a legit contender.

I agree...

KnickaBocka.44
11-03-2012, 09:49 PM
Looking at their payroll and roster alone, they have a good team on paper right now. They don't have any flexibility though because they are paying all of their starters so much money and if Joe Johnson's decline gets even steeper their progress will be severely limited.

effen5
11-03-2012, 09:52 PM
coming from a bulls fan, hmm makes sense

Not sure what me being a bulls fan has to do with anything...

Bigbadmoffo
11-03-2012, 09:55 PM
refs feeling bad about hurricane sandy i think

FriedTofuz
11-03-2012, 09:56 PM
nets are only int his game because of watson

Yankees1115
11-03-2012, 09:59 PM
Crash Wallace looks like he is in a Pinball machine when he plays. I love watching him play.

FriedTofuz
11-03-2012, 10:01 PM
kyle lowry is a beast. he out rebounds everyone even at 6"0. 28/8/8

Bigbadmoffo
11-03-2012, 10:02 PM
nets are only int his game because of watson

I'd say it's because of the foul calls and out of bounds. I used slowmo on 3 out of bounds calls and they where all way off in front of the ref not to mention twice is much foul calls. I knew nets would win with the whole sandy thing same as the knicks.

rocket
11-03-2012, 10:03 PM
Best team in the NBA

-DoMeFavors

waveycrockett
11-03-2012, 10:07 PM
Brook Lopez with 27/5/1/1. Dwight who??

FriedTofuz
11-03-2012, 10:11 PM
I really wish the raptors won this game just to shut up domefavors a bit.

Bigbadmoffo
11-03-2012, 10:11 PM
Thanks to the refs

waveycrockett
11-03-2012, 10:11 PM
Thanks to the refs

THANKS REFS!!! lol

Bigbadmoffo
11-03-2012, 10:12 PM
I really wish the raptors won this game just to shut up domefavors a bit.

This game is nothing for them to be proud of the fact that it was close is sad.

KnickaBocka.44
11-03-2012, 10:12 PM
Brook Lopez with 27/5/1/1. Dwight who??

Not impressed whatsoever.

waveycrockett
11-03-2012, 10:14 PM
Not impressed whatsoever.

umm....27 points is always impressive. But your right the 3 more rebounds CHandler got last night was!!

BigBlueCrew
11-03-2012, 10:14 PM
Look who! Its WaveyCrock. So you beat the Raptors, with a little help from your zebra friends???

waveycrockett
11-03-2012, 10:16 PM
This game is nothing for them to be proud of the fact that it was close is sad.

yep but the PACERS only beat the Raptors by 2 points yesterday and we beat them by 6 so Nets>Pacers at least



*PSD troll logic*

KnickaBocka.44
11-03-2012, 10:17 PM
umm....27 points is always impressive. But your right the 3 more rebounds CHandler got last night was!!

I bolded what I was referencing. 5 rebounds for a 7 footer playing that many minutes is pathetic.

waveycrockett
11-03-2012, 10:17 PM
Look who! Its WaveyCrock. So you beat the Raptors, with a little help from your zebra friends???

Yep we paid them off with Hurricane Sandy donations

waveycrockett
11-03-2012, 10:18 PM
I bolded what I was referencing. 5 rebounds for a 7 footer playing that many minutes is pathetic.

So 3 more rebounds for a 7 footer that can ONLY rebound and defend is impressive?

BigBlueCrew
11-03-2012, 10:18 PM
Yep we paid them off with Hurricane Sandy donations

you sure? You sure Proky didnt pay them off months ahead of time?

Bigbadmoffo
11-03-2012, 10:19 PM
yep but the PACERS only beat the Raptors by 2 points yesterday and we beat them by 6 so Nets>Pacers at least



*PSD troll logic*

Pacers just lost to a crap team not to mention no granger.

KnickaBocka.44
11-03-2012, 10:20 PM
So 3 more rebounds for a 7 footer that can ONLY rebound and defend is impressive?

No, but the fact is for Chandler that is slightly below average. For Brook, 8 boards would be an accomplishment.

waveycrockett
11-03-2012, 10:20 PM
Pacers just lost to a crap team not to mention no granger.

Oh ok and the Heat lost to the Knicks by 20. We'll be seeing them in the lottery I guess.

waveycrockett
11-03-2012, 10:21 PM
No, but the fact is for Chandler that is slightly below average. For Brook, 8 boards would be an accomplishment.

we could of really used 3 more rebounds from him instead of the 27 points....

KnickaBocka.44
11-03-2012, 10:22 PM
Oh ok and the Heat lost to the Knicks by 20. We'll be seeing them in the lottery I guess.

In DMF's absence you are picking up his/her slack.

KnickaBocka.44
11-03-2012, 10:22 PM
we could of really used 3 more rebounds from him instead of the 27 points....

the two aren't mutually exclusive.

Bigbadmoffo
11-03-2012, 10:23 PM
Oh ok and the Heat lost to the Knicks by 20. We'll be seeing them in the lottery I guess.

Point made they where both sandy affected and they both won hmm.

KnickaBocka.44
11-03-2012, 10:24 PM
Point made they where both sandy affected and they both won hmm.

Are you being serious? The Heat were never even in the game last night. The Knicks were rolling from the start and the Heat just couldn't come back.

waveycrockett
11-03-2012, 10:25 PM
the two aren't mutually exclusive.
They can be.

BigBlueCrew
11-03-2012, 10:27 PM
Oh ok and the Heat lost to the Knicks by 20. We'll be seeing them in the lottery I guess.

dont be mad. Im sure the Nets can do it too

hahahahahaha. :laugh: yeah right

Knicks21
11-03-2012, 10:27 PM
umm....27 points is always impressive. But your right the 3 more rebounds CHandler got last night was!!

Chandlers impact is so much more powerful than just an extra 3 rebounds and you know that..

Bigbadmoffo
11-03-2012, 10:28 PM
Are you being serious? The Heat were never even in the game last night. The Knicks were rolling from the start and the Heat just couldn't come back.

Didn't even look like the heat wanted to win. Wade donated is check lmao I wonder if they felt a little bad.

waveycrockett
11-03-2012, 10:32 PM
Chandlers impact is so much more powerful than just an extra 3 rebounds and you know that..

Let the Knicks fans tell it!!!

imagesrdecievin
11-03-2012, 10:39 PM
The Nets were good enough to win. That's enough for me. It will take time for our team to gel offensively - I have no worries that we will be a dynamic team offensively. Only time will tell on how much better we can perform defensively. Playing defense is a mindset and a culture and how good this team can be is entirely dependent on that.

And anyone that wants to downgrade Lopez's impact will certainly be eating humble pie before all is said and done. Nick Young? Really?!?!

netsgiantsyanks
11-03-2012, 11:03 PM
"they're the same team with the addition of joe johnson."

ok....

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/NJN/2012.html this is the 11-12 roster.

http://espn.go.com/nba/team/roster/_/name/bkn/brooklyn-nets this is the 12-13.

jkiddvc20
11-03-2012, 11:05 PM
Lol threads like these are why I sometimes hate PSD and its NBA forum

netsgiantsyanks
11-03-2012, 11:07 PM
^yes, a win is a ****ing win. christ

jkiddvc20
11-03-2012, 11:09 PM
You would think by this thread the Nets would be 1-6 or something. They just won relax people.

waveycrockett
11-03-2012, 11:12 PM
You would think by this thread the Nets would be 1-6 or something. They just won relax people.

Yeah you'd think we are the Lakers or something

Greedy22
11-03-2012, 11:16 PM
Yeah you'd think we are the Lakers or something

We definitely know they aren't, the lakers haven't gone 12-70 before.

waveycrockett
11-03-2012, 11:17 PM
We definitely know they aren't, the lakers haven't gone 12-70 before.

Yeah and we weren't predicted to go 82-0 this season either. Hows that working out?

Greedy22
11-03-2012, 11:32 PM
Yeah and we weren't predicted to go 82-0 this season either. Hows that working out?

Couldn't tell you, neither were we :shrug:

montybeasty
11-04-2012, 12:20 AM
Nets are an average team

richiesaurus310
11-04-2012, 12:56 AM
Yep.

Yup

JerseysFinest
11-04-2012, 01:08 AM
Are the Lakers even good? They already lost 3 games.

Punk
11-04-2012, 01:11 AM
I love these threads because we have seen enough evidence to tell who's good and bad yet, right?

The Knicks on paper look good, the Nets on paper look good. Both teams had impressive wins with little chemistry.

Until the Nets or Knicks prove they aren't "good" they are top tier teams coming into the season.

The Knicks blew out Miami with half of their roster and little chemistry. The Nets beat Toronto with little chemistry and Deron/Joe not even having a good game for their caliber.

I'd say that's pretty impressive but hey, let's overract.

montybeasty
11-04-2012, 01:23 AM
Toronto sucks so I'm not buying it

DoMeFavors
11-04-2012, 01:25 AM
Nets arent good they are great

and I love it the Nets won tonight and all of you seem angry. Face is you will be seeing a lot more w's for the Nets this year.

Bill1810
11-04-2012, 01:38 AM
The Nets have the potential to be serious contenders. Brook Lopez is an all star quality player if he can just stay healthy, but that's a big if cause he's very injury prone! Reggie Evans is one of the top defensive players in the league.Also Marshon Brooks was one of the top up and coming young players in the league last year and has superstar potential. We also got a big secret weapon nobody's talking about in Mirza Teletovic from Bosnia, who was one of the biggest superstars from Europe. And our bench isn't as bad as everyone is saying. We got Jerry Stackhouse, CJ Watson did a great job filling in for Derick Rose last year, also Josh Childress and Andrey Blatche could be big for us if they return to old form. So there's a lot of "ifs" but I wouldn't be shocked if we win 50+ games this year if everything comes together for us. We'll be a hell of a lot better than those dinosaurs playing in MSG!

DoMeFavors
11-04-2012, 01:40 AM
The Nets have the potential to be serious contenders. Brook Lopez is an all star quality player if he can just stay healthy, but that's a big if cause he's very injury prone! Reggie Evans is one of the top defensive players in the league.Also Marshon Brooks was one of the top up and coming young players in the league last year and has superstar potential. We also got a big secret weapon nobody's talking about in Mirza Teletovic from Bosnia, who was one of the biggest superstars from Europe. And our bench isn't as bad as everyone is saying. We got Jerry Stackhouse, CJ Watson did a great job filling in for Derick Rose last year, also Josh Childress and Andrey Blatche could be big for us if they return to old form. So there's a lot of "ifs" but I wouldn't be shocked if we win 50+ games this year if everything comes together for us. We'll be a hell of a lot better than those dinosaurs playing in MSG!

Um just curious how is Brook Lopez VERY Injury prone?

Season 1: 82 games Season 2: 82 Games Season 3: 82 games

KB-Pau-DH2012
11-04-2012, 01:41 AM
Nets arent good they are great

and I love it the Nets won tonight and all of you seem angry. Face is you will be seeing a lot more w's for the Nets this year.

Do you think they will end up winning the championship?

King P
11-04-2012, 01:41 AM
Brook Lopez is an all star quality player if he can just stay healthy, but that's a big if cause he's very injury prone!
I stopped reading right there.

Prior to last season, Brook never missed a game. Then he has a freak accident, and all of a sudden he's injury prone?

seikou8
11-04-2012, 01:47 AM
The Nets have the potential to be serious contenders. Brook Lopez is an all star quality player if he can just stay healthy, but that's a big if cause he's very injury prone! Reggie Evans is one of the top defensive players in the league.Also Marshon Brooks was one of the top up and coming young players in the league last year and has superstar potential. We also got a big secret weapon nobody's talking about in Mirza Teletovic from Bosnia, who was one of the biggest superstars from Europe. And our bench isn't as bad as everyone is saying. We got Jerry Stackhouse, CJ Watson did a great job filling in for Derick Rose last year, also Josh Childress and Andrey Blatche could be big for us if they return to old form. So there's a lot of "ifs" but I wouldn't be shocked if we win 50+ games this year if everything comes together for us. We'll be a hell of a lot better than those dinosaurs playing in MSG!

whatever helps sleep at night;)

waveycrockett
11-04-2012, 01:48 AM
Do you think they will end up winning the championship?

Did you think the Mavs would win the Championship 2 years ago?

DoMeFavors
11-04-2012, 01:59 AM
Do you think they will end up winning the championship?

I hope, but its their first year if they dont win it this year it wont be the end of the world. But they cant get swept in the playoffs.

GiantsSwaGG
11-04-2012, 02:44 AM
We definitely know they aren't, the lakers haven't gone 12-70 before.

:laugh:

GiantsSwaGG
11-04-2012, 02:46 AM
Did you think the Mavs would win the Championship 2 years ago?

Did you think the Heat were going to win the championship last year?

Guppyfighter
11-04-2012, 03:09 AM
Did you think the Heat were going to win the championship last year?

Pretty sure they were the overwhelming favorite to start the season?

kyubi256
11-04-2012, 03:28 AM
Yeah that's what I'm saying. I have been reading all these 50 win top 4 seed stories and I'm just wondering how. It's the SAME team plus Joe Johnson who is pretty overrated as is. I just don't get it.

One guy makes a huge difference. Especially when you need a go-to player. I think they are playoff contending this year. But 50 wins, top 4 seed, competing for East? Don't think they are there yet.

I see some rankings putting them in top 10. I think that's too far

waveycrockett
11-04-2012, 03:30 AM
Did you think the Heat were going to win the championship last year?

ummm

Hawkeye15
11-04-2012, 03:31 AM
Offensively? Yes. Defensively? No.

45-48 wins has been my prediction.

waveycrockett
11-04-2012, 03:38 AM
Offensively? Yes. Defensively? No.

45-48 wins has been my prediction.

The defense thing is over blown. JJ, Crash, Dwill, Evans, Bogans are all good to very good defenders and they all defend multiple positions. Lopez is fine defensively they will only improve as a defense as they gel and maybe make a trade or two for a post defender. Hump is also fine defensively.

Evolution23
11-04-2012, 03:41 AM
They got some cotton balls in the paint that are gonna get squished on the defensive end.

waveycrockett
11-04-2012, 03:45 AM
They got some cotton balls in the paint that are gonna get squished on the defensive end.

Clearly who your center is determines how good your defense is. Let the Knicks fans tell it!!

seikou8
11-04-2012, 04:46 AM
The defense thing is over blown. JJ, Crash, Dwill, Evans, Bogans are all good to very good defenders and they all defend multiple positions. Lopez is fine defensively they will only improve as a defense as they gel and maybe make a trade or two for a post defender. Hump is also fine defensively.

no he is not :laugh2::laugh2:

Kashmir13579
11-04-2012, 04:58 AM
They have some solid players. I don't see them better than the Knicks.

waveycrockett
11-04-2012, 05:00 AM
no he is not :laugh2::laugh2:

Yea he is fine.

Alayla
11-04-2012, 06:34 AM
Yeah that's what I'm saying. I have been reading all these 50 win top 4 seed stories and I'm just wondering how. It's the SAME team plus Joe Johnson who is pretty overrated as is. I just don't get it.

Its not at all the same team really u have to think of it as them adding
Crash 13 games last season for them
JJ
Lopez (injured)
Waston
and Blacth
and thats ignoreing the fact brooks is only going to get better

Alayla
11-04-2012, 06:38 AM
Now that i think of it isnt reggie evans new there too?

Chill_Will_24
11-04-2012, 06:48 AM
Yea he is fine.

No. He is not.

RLundi
11-04-2012, 07:59 AM
Are the Knicks even good?

N3TS
11-04-2012, 08:00 AM
I believe they are good, but it depends on what you're expectations are for this team. My expectations are a 2nd round playoff team, I believe this is a realistic expectation if the chips all fall into place and we have a favourable first round matchup.

Gram
11-04-2012, 11:23 AM
They're good but DoMeFavors and waveycrockett over rated them to the max.

StarvingKnick22
11-04-2012, 11:37 AM
Lopez, the best Center in the NBA, had 5 rebounds.

netsgiantsyanks
11-04-2012, 11:46 AM
Toronto sucks so I'm not buying it

toronto doesn't really suck, but OK.

29$JerZ
11-04-2012, 11:47 AM
They have a good offense because they did nothing to address the defensive side of the game. Glad Brook is healthy, from the bit I saw yesterday Avery finally has him scoring near the paint more. Still a mediocre rebounder and defensive player.

D-Leethal
11-04-2012, 12:00 PM
Clearly who your center is determines how good your defense is. Let the Knicks fans tell it!!

It is your anchor, your last line of defense, and the guy who can stop the pick and roll. Perimeter defense is damn near impossible with rules of today's NBA, the influx of Rose-Westbrook type speedsters, and even guys like Tony Allen who can lock you down 1 on 1 have to deal with screens, the bigs are the guys who shut down penetration.

If you don't have a solid defensive anchor, your perimeter defense has to be god-like to be an elite defense. I can't think of many teams that made it work, but the obvious one is the Heat and their perimeter oriented lockdown D. Deron, Joe, and Gerald sure as hell isn't going to get it done enough to make up for Brook and Hump backing them up.

Sandman
11-04-2012, 12:02 PM
Only people that think they're a threat are Nets fans.

If the Knicks lose Nets games or end up behind them in the standings, its because they shat the bed and stepped on their own feet.

GiantsSwaGG
11-04-2012, 12:06 PM
Waveycockett and DoMeFavors are the same guys. They're the best trolls in the history of psd

knicks=love
11-04-2012, 12:15 PM
They're good but DoMeFavors and waveycrockett over rated them to the max.

this

xxplayerxx23
11-04-2012, 12:34 PM
Raps are solid, Nets are also a solid team. If they can get some spark off the bench and they stay healthy they can make some noise. I see them being anywhere from 4-7 in the east.

DeRaptor95
11-04-2012, 12:39 PM
Refs gave brook lopez 15 free throws and called 30 fouls on toronto

Sandman
11-04-2012, 12:40 PM
Raps are solid, Nets are also a solid team. If they can get some spark off the bench and they stay healthy they can make some noise. I see them being anywhere from 4-7 in the east.

Raps are a sleeper team I think they will be good. Everybody forgot about Jonas, they took a risk trading their pick for Lowry and they're a young team with another year of experience.

Nets will make the playoffs. They're better than the Magic or Charlotte or Washington. Don't think they're making any noise.

jmoney85
11-04-2012, 12:42 PM
reggie evans impressed me last night

xxplayerxx23
11-04-2012, 12:42 PM
Raps are a sleeper team I think they will be good. Everybody forgot about Jonas, they took a risk trading their pick for Lowry and they're a young team with another year of experience.

Nets will make the playoffs. They're better than the Magic or Charlotte or Washington. Don't think they're making any noise.

Yes, I agree I think the raps will be fighting for the 8 seed. I think the Nets can make noise, but I dont think they will beat the big boys. I have them behind Philly.

JasonJohnHorn
11-04-2012, 01:10 PM
The Nets have a great roster. Lopez obviously needs to start rebounding like a center, but I mean, just look at the starting line up? They have, in my opinion, and All-Star calibre player at every position. Each of these players can play at the level on an All-Star. As for the bench, I think we all know that in 05 the Suns had NO bench at all, and that squad would have won it all that year if it hadn't been for the Horry/Nash brawl. That said, the Nets do hve a decent bench. Reggie Evans is a hard worker, solid defender and AMAZING rebounder (as we saw last night when he grabbed 13 boards in 15 minutes). Brooks was a starter last season, so he's a solid guy coming off the bench (espcially if he can improve his FG%). Watson covered for Rose while he was injured last year and played well as a starter (though like Brooks, his FG% is a little low). Blatche obviously has something to prove, but he is talented and if he can get his $#!T together he's a great guy to have coming off the bench. Plus they got that European forward they signed in the offseason (not sure where he is right now though). And Bogan and spread the floor with his three-ball.

The Nets have all the tools they need to win. Their bench, though not the best in the league, is good.

netsgiantsyanks
11-04-2012, 01:12 PM
^^:nod: they're not title contenders just yet, but they're a solid team. people need to give credit when credit is due and not get all pissy because of DMF.

D2theJ
11-04-2012, 01:13 PM
They gotta work on defense and chemistry. I think both of those things kind of work hand and hand, once they get more comfortable with each other they will be better at team defense (but even then they won't be elite they dont have the defensive personnel).

As far as depth goes they are pretty deep IMO.. Watson, Brooks, Blatche (and potentially Teletovic) are all great offensively off the bench. And then you got guys like Bogans, Childress, and Evans that can play a role defensively, so I don't think thats an issue at all.

netsgiantsyanks
11-04-2012, 01:17 PM
the only HUGE problem is the defense, at best it'll be slightly above average. all i want to see is hard work on the defensive end and i'm good, because their offense in terms of the players they have is legit.

bloomis1307
11-04-2012, 01:25 PM
Yeah that's what I'm saying. I have been reading all these 50 win top 4 seed stories and I'm just wondering how. It's the SAME team plus Joe Johnson who is pretty overrated as is. I just don't get it.

I don't know how you can say its the same team;

Blatch gives them depth at the big
Brook pretty much since Williams arrived
Gerald Wallace came mid season via trade

Robbw241
11-04-2012, 01:32 PM
The current Nets team has 3 players that played more than 20 games for them last year. Clearly though they are the same team #NBAForumLogic

JOhnnyTHaJet
11-04-2012, 01:48 PM
The current Nets team has 3 players that played more than 20 games for them last year. Clearly though they are the same team #NBAForumLogic

Yeah but the Nets dont have Johan Petro anymore. So clearly theyve downgraded at the Center position.

DoMeFavors
11-04-2012, 01:59 PM
A player can have 2 points and 10 rebounds and Lopez can have 30 points and 5 rebounds and people will say the player with 10 boards is better than 30 points.

KnicksorBust
11-04-2012, 02:01 PM
A player can have 2 points and 10 rebounds and Lopez can have 30 points and 5 rebounds and people will say the player with 10 boards is better than 30 points.

As long as they have guys like Hump-Gforce-Evans to help him clean up the glass. They may be fine after all.

DoMeFavors
11-04-2012, 02:04 PM
As long as they have guys like Hump-Gforce-Evans to help him clean up the glass. They may be fine after all.

Yeah people act like team rebounds dont matter and look for stat padders. Barnagni doesnt rebound, Lopez does but Barg also doesnt have humphries and evans on his team.

knicks=love
11-04-2012, 02:09 PM
Yeah people act like team rebounds dont matter and look for stat padders. Barnagni doesnt rebound, Lopez does but Barg also doesnt have humphries and evans on his team.

both bargs and lopez don't rebound..

aman_13
11-04-2012, 02:31 PM
It is inexcusable for a big not to rebound.

NYsFinest
11-04-2012, 02:48 PM
A player can have 2 points and 10 rebounds and Lopez can have 30 points and 5 rebounds and people will say the player with 10 boards is better than 30 points.

Its not only rebounding its his interior defense as well... A center MUST defend and rebound. Lopez is arguably the worst starting center in the nba at both. Scoring for the center position is secondary.

YoungOne
11-04-2012, 03:02 PM
Yeah that's what I'm saying. I have been reading all these 50 win top 4 seed stories and I'm just wondering how. It's the SAME team plus Joe Johnson who is pretty overrated as is. I just don't get it.

you have no clue about the team and make those kind of threads :facepalm:

jmoney85
11-04-2012, 03:05 PM
Its not only rebounding its his interior defense as well... A center MUST defend and rebound. Lopez is arguably the worst starting center in the nba at both. Scoring for the center position is secondary.

this is purely opinion

Gram
11-04-2012, 03:08 PM
you have no clue about the team and make those kind of threads :facepalm:

Aren't you one a those Celtic fans who thinks Rondo is the best PG in the league? Maybe you should get a clue. :facepalm:

YoungOne
11-04-2012, 03:10 PM
Aren't you one a those Celtic fans who thinks Rondo is the best PG in the league? Maybe you should get a clue. :facepalm:

you have no friends to talk to?

Gram
11-04-2012, 03:11 PM
you have no friends to talk to?

LOLLLLL wtf kinda response is that? That doesn't even relate to what I said. :facepalm:

Elaborate.

YoungOne
11-04-2012, 03:12 PM
LOLLLLL wtf kinda response is that? That doesn't even relate to what I said. :facepalm:

Elaborate.

thats what u did.

Gram
11-04-2012, 03:14 PM
thats what u did.

True, but at least I was clear about what I was trying to say. I took something from your posts that I've read before. You just told me I have no friends. Where's the proof? :facepalm:

YoungOne
11-04-2012, 03:20 PM
True, but at least I was clear about what I was trying to say. I took something from your posts that I've read before. You just told me I have no friends. Where's the proof? :facepalm:

if u clear about what you say, why bring something up that I never said just to bash me?

Gram
11-04-2012, 03:23 PM
if u clear about what you say, why bring something up that I never said just to bash me?

Was it not you I was arguing a few weeks back about Rondo with? If not then I apologize, I definitely thought it was you though.

YoungOne
11-04-2012, 03:33 PM
Was it not you I was arguing a few weeks back about Rondo with? If not then I apologize, I definitely thought it was you though.

well whatever...

and just to prove my point:

williams had injuries
jj is new
lopez was hurt
wallace came after the deadline
cj watson is new
evans is new
blatche is new
teletovic is new
and some more bench players

Sandman
11-04-2012, 05:04 PM
Yeah people act like team rebounds dont matter and look for stat padders. Barnagni doesnt rebound, Lopez does but Barg also doesnt have humphries and evans on his team.

And when you talk about centers who is talking about either one? you're leaving all of the good centers out.

imagesrdecievin
11-04-2012, 06:53 PM
Its not only rebounding its his interior defense as well... A center MUST defend and rebound. Lopez is arguably the worst starting center in the nba at both. Scoring for the center position is secondary.

It's the Nets responsibility to get a PF to put next to Lopez to mask those deficiencies.

Should the Mavs have given up on Dirk because he was a soft rebounder/defender?

You make the most of your assets by surrounding them with complementary players like the Mavs did with Chandler.

It's obviously not going to happen - but you pair Lopez with Ibaka and there are no issues. The Nets have to due their diligence in order to get the right guy next to Lopez. Not give up on a premier back to the basket scorer because it isn't the traditional way.

DerekJeterDan
11-04-2012, 07:05 PM
The Brooklyn Nets are very good!

If they can stay healthy, their starting 5 matches well with anyone in the league.

Guys like Reggie Evans and Marshon Brooks are key guys off the bench to ignite some energy.

When you have Deron Williams leading the charge and Brook Lopez throwing it down.

With Joe Johnson and Kris Humphries playing supporting roles.

And Gerald Wallace who is tough as nails... you have the makings of a good team.

I don't expect instant success, but this should lay a strong foundation for sure.

Jay Z will help bring in stars and build this Brooklyn team into a future winner.

imagesrdecievin
11-04-2012, 07:30 PM
Outside of a trade - we can't afford to bring in anymore stars.

What we have is what we got.

c.c.
11-04-2012, 07:55 PM
No

Chill_Will_24
11-04-2012, 08:40 PM
The Brooklyn Nets are very good!

If they can stay healthy, their starting 5 matches well with anyone in the league.

Guys like Reggie Evans and Marshon Brooks are key guys off the bench to ignite some energy.

When you have Deron Williams leading the charge and Brook Lopez throwing it down.

With Joe Johnson and Kris Humphries playing supporting roles.

And Gerald Wallace who is tough as nails... you have the makings of a good team.

I don't expect instant success, but this should lay a strong foundation for sure.

Jay Z will help bring in stars and build this Brooklyn team into a future winner.

Brook Lopez throwing it down :laugh2:

DerekJeterDan
11-04-2012, 09:06 PM
Brook Lopez throwing it down :laugh2:

He's only 24 years old and just had a tremendous first game after all he went through last season.

He also got to the line a ton which was great to see.

Can't wait until he fully comes into his own. Its fun watching him play when healthy.

DoMeFavors
11-04-2012, 09:14 PM
This thread should be closed this is like making a thread "Did Miami Heat win the Championship this past year" YES!

Robbw241
11-04-2012, 09:16 PM
Brook gets 7 rebounds in one game and Gerald gets 7. Or Brook gets 10 rebounds in one game and Wallace gets 4. Is the second team more likely to win, because that is what people are making it sound like.

kyubi256
11-04-2012, 09:16 PM
The Nets have an interesting team. I definitely see them in the playoffs this year. But as a top 4 team in the East? That might be pushing it

KnickaBocka.44
11-04-2012, 09:17 PM
Brook gets 7 rebounds in one game and Gerald gets 7. Or Brook gets 10 rebounds in one game and Wallace gets 4. Is the second team more likely to win, because that is what people are making it sound like.

What if Wallace got 7 and Brook got 10 and the other team got 3 less offensive rebounds or the Nets were able to get a few more points on offensive rebounds...that is what we are talking about.

knicks=love
11-04-2012, 09:18 PM
does anyone else get all fuzzy inside when DoMeFavors posts?

KnickaBocka.44
11-04-2012, 09:21 PM
does anyone else get all fuzzy inside when DoMeFavors posts?

hahaha yes. My eyes light up when I see that she was the most recent comment.

HOZ THE KNICK
11-04-2012, 09:28 PM
this thread should be closed this is like making a thread "did miami heat win the championship this past year" yes!

lmao!

xxcubs22xx
11-04-2012, 09:31 PM
Brook Lopez with 27/5/1/1. Dwight who??


Not impressed whatsoever.

My thoughts exactly. The tail end of that line is not impressive at all. 5 rebounds, one assist, and one block. That's pretty bad for a big man playing all those minutes.

The Nets are not as good as people think and CJ Watson isn't either.

DoMeFavors
11-04-2012, 09:33 PM
hahaha yes. My eyes light up when I see that she was the most recent comment.

Thank you, from here on out I am captain of the Nets fan base. Captain of the battle ship, and ready for the championSHIP.

JOhnnyTHaJet
11-04-2012, 09:34 PM
My thoughts exactly. The tail end of that line is not impressive at all. 5 rebounds, one assist, and one block. That's pretty bad for a big man playing all those minutes.

The Nets are not as good as people think and CJ Watson isn't either.

Why does every Bulls fan bash the players who leave their team?

CJ has been very solid throughout the preseason and last night. I dont see why he's categorized as "bad".

JOhnnyTHaJet
11-04-2012, 09:35 PM
Thank you, from here on out I am captain of the Nets fan base. Captain of the battle ship, and ready for the championSHIP.

You're a Knicks fan.

DerekJeterDan
11-04-2012, 09:36 PM
lmao!

Watson hit some nice three pointers yesterday. He's another quality guy off the bench I forgot to mention.

The Nets aren't world beaters, but they can certainly hold there own in this inaugural season.

That is what matters most right now. Im just so happy to see sports in Brooklyn again.

SINCESTARBURY25
11-04-2012, 10:22 PM
James Harden best guard in the NBA just saying

Ty Fast
11-04-2012, 10:26 PM
They will score points but they will get killed by teams who can score down low. Putrid defense

what do you mean? they have brook lopez who is better than dwight howard lol.

YEDN90
11-04-2012, 10:28 PM
Personally, I had the Nets as the 6th seed and I'm sticking with that for now.

I don't really understand what people expected. Toronto isn't THAT bad, it was their first game after not playing in some time, there could have been some distractions with the hurricane and they're far from a finished product.

That said, they won the game and looked pretty solid. Until they prove it more so, I have no problem that people disagree that they're a top 4 team. That's fine. I do however think it is a little asinine that people think the playoffs are out of the question because a new team didn't absolutely dismantle a 'solid' team.

The team obviously has talent, they are obviously capable of making the playoffs as it stands now. Will they? It remains to be seen, but as it stands now they should be good enough. This whole notion of them not being very good is premature.

Also, for any Nets fan that truly thinks we're the cream of the crop (DMF), you're delusional. I expect a playoff birth and maybe the second round, which is all I can ask for. Plenty of time for improvement and while I'd love to see a championship, this has to happen one step at a time.

YEDN90
11-04-2012, 10:34 PM
Also, Lopez is overrated, IMO.

If he could play defense he would be a monster....but he can't. At least he can average 12 rebounds a game..? Oh wait.

Signed,

Realistic Nets fan

waveycrockett
11-04-2012, 10:46 PM
what do you mean? they have brook lopez who is better than dwight howard lol.

Yeah not like a team playing Shane Battier, Chris Bosh and Udonis Haslem down low didn't just have the best defense last seaosn

Captain Moroni
11-04-2012, 11:39 PM
Nets are going to be semi good. A playoff team for sure but 7-8 seed

WAYNEBO
11-05-2012, 12:50 AM
Thank you, from here on out I am captain of the Nets fan base. Captain of the battle ship, and ready for the championSHIP.

Captain Shat..... Nets fans on here would like to mutiny. You the dumbest poster on PSD. Aspergers is a b|tch huh?

VinceCarter
11-05-2012, 01:10 AM
It's the SAME team plus Joe Johnson

Ahhhh this is where you are wrong, Mr. Powers.

Last year Brook played 5 games and Gerald Wallace only played about 10. This roster as a team is basically all new minus D-Will and Hump.

RonE Coleman
11-05-2012, 01:11 AM
what do you mean? they have brook lopez who is better than dwight howard lol.

Haha I forgot your right!

jmoney85
11-05-2012, 01:27 AM
Haha I forgot your right!

well hes not iman shumpert aka GOAT aka mvp, ROY

RonE Coleman
11-05-2012, 01:49 AM
well hes not iman shumpert aka GOAT aka mvp, ROY

You're right, hes not. Net fans talk up Blowpez more than any rational fan talks up Shump. If he comes back healthy I think he at worst could be a Tony Allen type and at best an Iggy type with less playmaking ability.

justinnum1
11-05-2012, 01:51 AM
You're right, hes not. Net fans talk up Blowpez more than any rational fan talks up Shump. If he comes back healthy I think he at worst could be a Tony Allen type and at best an Iggy type with less playmaking ability.

talk about a big if

RonE Coleman
11-05-2012, 03:52 AM
talk about a big if

Why is that a big if? Plenty of players come back from ACL tears, just might take awhile

Rockice_8
11-05-2012, 10:48 AM
:facepalm:

They are on pace for 82-0 so yeah they look pretty good. This was beaten to death during the offseason so can we at least wait until we are 20 games in before we assess a team that was basically thrown together in a few weeks. They are still a work in progress. Lakers, Knicks, Heat, all had time to gel. Hell the Knicks are still using that excuse. Let's give the Nets the same benefit of the doubt.