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YoungStuna
11-02-2012, 12:07 AM
Which young pitcher do you guys think will emerge as one of the best? I'm interested to see. They don't have to be in the big leagues yet necessarily.

YoungStuna
11-02-2012, 12:08 AM
My biased vote goes to Matt Harvey.

The stuff is real: http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=24327313&c_id=mlb

He was showing an explosive fastball that game to go along with a good curve, slider, and change. He put up really good numbers for a rookie.

Jeffy25
11-02-2012, 12:09 AM
Matt Moore

sexicano31
11-02-2012, 12:10 AM
Matt Moore
Dylan Bundy

d79cheese
11-02-2012, 12:11 AM
Does Madison Bumgarner count ;)

YoungStuna
11-02-2012, 12:13 AM
Does Madison Bumgarner count ;)

If you think he'll get better, sure.

lol, please
11-02-2012, 12:15 AM
Bumgarner.
Surkamp.

metswon69
11-02-2012, 12:17 AM
Matt Harvey

YoungStuna
11-02-2012, 12:18 AM
Bumgarner.
Surkamp.

lol

d79cheese
11-02-2012, 12:24 AM
If the playoffs were any indication, Shelby Miller and Trevor Rosenthal

UPRock
11-02-2012, 12:29 AM
Bumgarner and Guillermo Mota.

LASportsFan1996
11-02-2012, 12:29 AM
If Kershaw still counts, him x100000000000

LASportsFan1996
11-02-2012, 12:30 AM
Bumgarner and Guillermo Mota.

Oooooo it finally came out that he's only 22?

lol, please
11-02-2012, 12:31 AM
Bumgarner and Guillermo Mota.

:clap:

lol, please
11-02-2012, 12:31 AM
Oooooo it finally came out that he's only 22?

Here, I will say it before one of "you people" do.

It was the PEDs. :pity:

LASportsFan1996
11-02-2012, 12:33 AM
Here, I will say it before one of "you people" do.

It was the PEDs. :pity:

PED's aged him well

YoungStuna
11-02-2012, 01:08 AM
If Kershaw still counts, him x100000000000

He's already a big time pitcher. How does he count?

LASportsFan1996
11-02-2012, 01:10 AM
He's already a big time pitcher. How does he count?

He's young :D

If he doesn't count I'll go with Zach Lee
#OnlyHomerPickICanMake

ciaban
11-02-2012, 01:11 AM
Bumgarner.
Surkamp.
lol, if bumgarner counts, then so does Kershaw and Latos because they are all the same age, if kershaw can ever constantly through that nasty Curve for strikes he will be unhittable, it's because of that he developed his slider, maybe Zito can give him some tips. Also, i think when Mat Latos retires he will have at least 1 Cy Young, and a kind of think that he is a future dodger.

If Kershaw still counts, him x100000000000
there is still zach lee,

so i will be one of the few non homers, but Tyler Skaggs is one, James Tallion, actually Zach Wheeler is another, that kid is going to dominate and really make giants fans hate carlos beltran

Jeffy25
11-02-2012, 01:13 AM
Cards fan says Shelby Miller btw

sacgiants1213
11-02-2012, 01:18 AM
Zack Wheeler.



:(

agureghian
11-02-2012, 01:21 AM
Jarrod Parker :cool:

drew_ellis_23
11-02-2012, 01:28 AM
Paxton, Walker, or Hultzen. You choose.

metswon69
11-02-2012, 01:32 AM
Zack Wheeler.



:(

I would feel bad but just think about the 2 really shiny WS rings the Giants have gotten and it will ease your pain about Wheeler. :D

metswon69
11-02-2012, 01:38 AM
FWIW Wheeler is the guy more highly touted but i think Harvey might end up being the better pitcher.

Guppyfighter
11-02-2012, 03:27 AM
Dan ****ing Straily.

HowFit
11-02-2012, 04:20 AM
Matt Moore...

Capital G
11-02-2012, 08:38 AM
how has chris sale not been mentioned? he was great in his first year and will build off it in '13.

matt moore.


i also like harvey and bundy.

NYMETS2889
11-02-2012, 08:56 AM
Harvey/Wheeler

but as the previous poster said chris sale has chance to be filthy

C-ross12
11-02-2012, 09:10 AM
Skaggs, Miller, Moore and Bundy. Mostly Bundy.

jej
11-02-2012, 09:26 AM
Taijuan "Sky" Walker.

jjkmtk
11-02-2012, 09:51 AM
Kris Medlin
Brandon Beachy

todu82
11-02-2012, 09:53 AM
Dylan Bundy.

Fly
11-02-2012, 09:54 AM
Julio Teheran

JesusWears24
11-02-2012, 10:02 AM
Matt Harvey, Zach Wheeler, Bundy

rcs15
11-02-2012, 10:11 AM
If Kershaw still counts, him x100000000000

So Kershaw will go and take the next step from being a big time pitcher to....a big time pitcher?:confused:

DaSox_05
11-02-2012, 10:21 AM
Chris Sale!

Sick Of It All
11-02-2012, 10:33 AM
Jeremy Hefner ftw.

sager729
11-02-2012, 10:38 AM
Chris Sale, he is already an ace at 23. I also really like Bundy.

Greedy22
11-02-2012, 11:44 AM
Matt Moore

iAugust
11-02-2012, 01:23 PM
Harvey & Bundy will be the best

t327
11-02-2012, 02:30 PM
I would feel bad but just think about the 2 really shiny WS rings the Giants have gotten and it will ease your pain about Wheeler. :D

But Wheeler was dealt for Carlos Beltran (I believe), who did not contribute to one of those shiny rings. I could understand why Giant fans would be :(

sacgiants1213
11-02-2012, 02:32 PM
But Wheeler was dealt for Carlos Beltran (I believe), who did not contribute to one of those shiny rings. I could understand why Giant fans would be :(

Here's how Beltran contributed.. when the year ended, he told the Giants that he'd only consider re-signing if the Giants acquired a legitimate leadoff hitter. The Giants listened. They traded their trash for Angel Pagan. Pagan was a huge part of their success this year.

aiizer
11-02-2012, 02:34 PM
Zach Lee, the next Tom Seaver.

metswon69
11-02-2012, 02:35 PM
Here's how Beltran contributed.. when the year ended, he told the Giants that he'd only consider re-signing if the Giants acquired a legitimate leadoff hitter. The Giants listened. They traded their trash for Angel Pagan. Pagan was a huge part of their success this year.

Exactly if we made amends we did it that way.

We gave you Pagan and we essentially got nothing in return.

StriveGreatness
11-02-2012, 02:38 PM
ahoda's love, Drew Smyly

ZHawk1123
11-02-2012, 02:49 PM
Harvey... His stuff is ****ing filthy

YoungStuna
11-02-2012, 03:17 PM
lol, if bumgarner counts, then so does Kershaw and Latos because they are all the same age, if kershaw can ever constantly through that nasty Curve for strikes he will be unhittable, it's because of that he developed his slider, maybe Zito can give him some tips. Also, i think when Mat Latos retires he will have at least 1 Cy Young, and a kind of think that he is a future dodger.

Well Bumgarner hasn't established himself as a top pitcher yet whereas Kershaw has.

aiizer
11-02-2012, 03:21 PM
Bumgarner already is a big time pitcher, so I'd say he's an invalid answer to this question.

heusy_79
11-02-2012, 04:04 PM
Aaron Sanchez.

MetsFanatic19
11-02-2012, 04:16 PM
Harvey is looking like a mini Justin Verlander.

Hooray, something for the Mets to cheer about!!!!

BrianWestKins
11-02-2012, 05:24 PM
Yuuuuuuuuuuuuuu Darvish

Bombtista
11-02-2012, 05:48 PM
Noah Syndergaard is Roy Halladay 2.0!

GA16Angels
11-02-2012, 05:50 PM
Mike Trout.

More-Than-Most
11-02-2012, 05:56 PM
Kyle Kendrick :clap:

Yadi4MVP
11-02-2012, 07:03 PM
My homer picks: Miller Rosenthal

Jacob Turner Trevor Bauer Matt Moore Dylan Bundy and many more

Zito4Prez
11-02-2012, 07:09 PM
Matt Harvey of the Mets

natsbats
11-02-2012, 07:23 PM
The correct answer will be Shelby Miller.

rockbottom2010
11-02-2012, 08:03 PM
gerritt cole

MetsFanatic19
11-02-2012, 08:04 PM
My homer picks: Miller Rosenthal

Jacob Turner Trevor Bauer Matt Moore Dylan Bundy and many more

I think he'll be a number 2 at best, maybe a number 1 on a young team. I don't see him being a shutdown ace, though.

gaughan333
11-02-2012, 08:56 PM
Dylan Bundy

gauth25
11-02-2012, 09:19 PM
Damn I didn't know Harvey threw that hard. Should be good though depending how Mets handle him. I think Bundy will be good as well. I don't think Bauer will pan out.

YoungStuna
11-02-2012, 09:59 PM
Harvey tops out at 98-99 MPH but he sits normally in the 93-95 MPH range. His slider, curve, and change all are above average swing and miss offerings. He even flashes a cutter every now and then. He just needs to fine tune his command more and then the sky is the limit.

I like Bundy as well. I also think Bauer will be a bust, his fly ball tendacies will not work in the big leagues and he doesn't throw quite as hard as I thought.

metswon69
11-02-2012, 10:34 PM
Damn I didn't know Harvey threw that hard. Should be good though depending how Mets handle him. I think Bundy will be good as well. I don't think Bauer will pan out.

The good thing about Harvey is that with his innings increments in the minors he should be ready to pitch 180-200 innings next year if completely healthy.

Wheeler will be ready by June too if all goes according to plan.

MetsFanatic19
11-02-2012, 10:36 PM
Yeah, the more I talk and read about it, the more excited about the Mets future I get.

Pitching wise, anyway...

YoungStuna
11-02-2012, 11:45 PM
The good thing about Harvey is that with his innings increments in the minors he should be ready to pitch 180-200 innings next year if completely healthy.

Wheeler will be ready by June too if all goes according to plan.

Eh Harvey should be ready for a full work load of 200+ innings.

metswon69
11-02-2012, 11:51 PM
Eh Harvey should be ready for a full work load of 200+ innings.

True he did go 170 this year.

homie564
11-03-2012, 08:14 AM
Homer Pick: Matt Barnes and Allen Webster :P



In all seriousness Hultzen or Bundy

MetsFanatic19
11-03-2012, 08:20 AM
True he did go 170 this year.

And he was still reaching 98 mph in inning 170....and past pitch #100.

I think I'm in love...

MetsFanatic19
11-03-2012, 08:23 AM
Damn I didn't know Harvey threw that hard. Should be good though depending how Mets handle him. I think Bundy will be good as well. I don't think Bauer will pan out.

The thing is, he just doesn't throw hard, he consistently throws hard. Whereas Verlander starts off throwing around 94 and then gets up to the high 90's later in the game, Harvey starts off with high heat and keeps it up untl his final pitch.

I'm not saying Harvey is better than Verlander lol, just that he's looked like a "Mini Me" version of him.

Synyster89
11-03-2012, 09:38 AM
<Insert favorite teams best pitching prospect here>

...damn Im a Phillies fan so no one. But seriously besides Bundy Im going with Archie Bradley. Kid is unhitable (5.8 H/9...what?) if he can keep his walk rate down he'll be insanely good.

ChongInc.
11-03-2012, 03:48 PM
Aaron Sanchez

YoungStuna
11-03-2012, 05:56 PM
Aaron Sanchez? I liked him coming into the draft and still do, but he's so far away and has command issues.

BlueJayFanDan
11-03-2012, 06:01 PM
Shelby Miller is the best thing since sliced bread.

Dylan Bundy also will be godly.

Matt Moore will be a top 3 lefty in 3-4 years.

Homer picks: Aaron Sanchez and Noah Syndergaard

Synyster89
11-03-2012, 08:51 PM
Aaron Sanchez wouldnt even pitch through the order twice for most of last season...wayyy to early to even have a good barometer for his abilities, especially to label him as the next big thing.

YoungStuna
11-03-2012, 10:22 PM
Aaron Sanchez wouldnt even pitch through the order twice for most of last season...wayyy to early to even have a good barometer for his abilities, especially to label him as the next big thing.

Seriously. That is a homer pick that makes no sense.

At least me saying Harvey(being a Mets fan) makes sense since he's shown dominance.

SenorGato
11-03-2012, 11:19 PM
Yeah, Shelby Miller is my pick as well. Tavares might be my #1 prospect as well.

Others:

Brett Anderson - After Price probably my favorite under 30 LH in the MLB.
Alexi Ogando - Given a chance to start by another organization I think he takes off. His stuff is good enough to start and has improved on repeating his mechanics.
Andrew Miller - Another reliever to starter candidate.
Joba Chamberlain/Wade Daviss - Same as the the other two.

macv
11-04-2012, 02:39 AM
My list is as follows.

Dylan Bundy
Gerrit Cole
Shelby Miller
Archie Bradley
Matt Harvey
Trevor Rosenthal
Trevor Bauer (don't forget about him!)

If I had to pick one of these guys, it would be Bundy.

Others to consider:

Matt Barnes
Taijuan Walker
Zach Lee
Zack Wheeler (has been described as a right handed Clayton Kershaw)
Jameson Taillon

FortDetroit
11-04-2012, 03:08 AM
Doug Fister! Not really, but he's awesome.

thrice4
11-04-2012, 03:32 AM
Bundy and Taillon!

GasMan
11-04-2012, 08:46 AM
The thing is, he just doesn't throw hard, he consistently throws hard. Whereas Verlander starts off throwing around 94 and then gets up to the high 90's later in the game, Harvey starts off with high heat and keeps it up untl his final pitch.

I'm not saying Harvey is better than Verlander lol, just that he's looked like a "Mini Me" version of him.

That's by design. Verlander use to throw 100% throughout the game but learned to pitch and really took his game to the next level when he learned to dial it back most the time and save his high 90's for the right situation especially the later innings.

Fly
11-04-2012, 08:49 AM
Yeah, Shelby Miller is my pick as well. Tavares might be my #1 prospect as well.

Others:

Brett Anderson - After Price probably my favorite under 30 LH in the MLB.
Alexi Ogando - Given a chance to start by another organization I think he takes off. His stuff is good enough to start and has improved on repeating his mechanics.
Andrew Miller - Another reliever to starter candidate.
Joba Chamberlain/Wade Daviss - Same as the the other two.

:confused:

So you'll take Brett Anderson over Kershaw, Bumgarner, Sale, Gonzalez, Hamels etc. etc.?

SenorGato
11-04-2012, 10:07 AM
:confused:

So you'll take Brett Anderson over Kershaw, Bumgarner, Sale, Gonzalez, Hamels etc. etc.?

Ah. I lied. It was late and I was a tired boy. Cole Hamels is the way, the truth, and the light.

Leandres_sf
11-04-2012, 02:06 PM
Shelby Miller, Trevor Bauer, Zach Wheeler and Dylan Bundy.

Pinstripe pride
11-05-2012, 10:50 AM
Dylan Bundy

XxSPEEDRAC3RxX
11-05-2012, 11:10 AM
Chris sale

macv
11-05-2012, 06:13 PM
Chris sale

Chris Sale is sick, he's a top ten pitcher IMO.

I write weekly articles for Dobber Baseball and he made my list.

http://baseball.dobbersports.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2891:re-ranking-the-top-ten-starting-pitchers&catid=907:the-breakdown&Itemid=117

Bombtista
11-05-2012, 06:47 PM
Seriously. That is a homer pick that makes no sense.

At least me saying Harvey(being a Mets fan) makes sense since he's shown dominance.

http://www.milb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120627&content_id=34032498&fext=.jsp&vkey=news_prospective

Sanchez has been pretty damn good. Next season he will likely get the innings along with those other two guys to start putting up more definable stats.

Definetly a fair homer pick at the very least

YoungStuna
11-05-2012, 11:23 PM
http://www.milb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120627&content_id=34032498&fext=.jsp&vkey=news_prospective

Sanchez has been pretty damn good. Next season he will likely get the innings along with those other two guys to start putting up more definable stats.

Definetly a fair homer pick at the very least

I'm not denying that he hasn't been good, and I said I always liked him.

The point of the thread wasn't to make your own homer pick, how is Sanchez going to be the next big time pitcher when he's not even close to the big leagues? That is why it makes no sense.

SenorGato
11-06-2012, 12:40 AM
Derek Holland is going to break out eventually.

rkelly7
11-06-2012, 01:10 AM
Dylan Bundy
Matt Moore

Both aces in less than 3 years.

JBears79
11-07-2012, 01:51 AM
Chris Sale, Dylan Bundy, Tyler Skaggs, Matt Moore and Gerrit Cole

Krush
11-07-2012, 02:28 AM
Kershaw, duh!

lamar2006
11-07-2012, 04:17 AM
Roger Clemens.

JBears79
11-07-2012, 11:42 AM
Derek Holland is going to break out eventually.

This also. I think Derek Holland is gonna be a workhorse in his prime.

Young2Kinsler
11-08-2012, 10:18 AM
Derek Holland is going to break out eventually.

I'm done holding my breath on this guy, I'm turning purple.

At this point, I would package him up if it brought back Upton or TDA

Young2Kinsler
11-08-2012, 10:19 AM
If any young Rangers pitcher is going to be the next big thing, it is Yu Darvish.

Watching him pitch down the stretch and in the playoff game, I have no doubt the guy is a future ace

leftymo
11-08-2012, 01:11 PM
How about a 23 year old pitcher that is 2-0 with 15 IP 0 ER in the World Series?

Many inside the Giants circle are stating that Madison Bumgarner will become the ace of the staff.

His velocity dropped considerably in september, but that had to do with mechanics and fatigue. Name another 23 year old or younger that has pitched not one but TWO 200 IP seasons.

He doesn't get the hype, but he's better than all of the rest.