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Fresno
11-01-2012, 10:17 PM
Gordon didn't speak to the media on Wednesday. He was escorted Elvis-like by security through a side door to the locker room after he arrived at New Orleans Arena.




From all reports, Gordon was cutting and jumping fine on his injured leg during workouts over the weekend. Hornets doctors and Gordon himself have said there's no structural damage in the knee.

Yet, Gordon continues to miss games, much less a golden opportunity to regain the trust and support of a frustrated fan base.

Something clearly doesn't add up.

Either Gordon's injury is worse than he or the team has let on, or Gordon is simply softer than a Morning Call beignet. And neither situation is acceptable at this point, considering how much patience the organization has asked from fans during this chaotic three-year transition.

http://www.nola.com/hornets/index.ssf/2012/10/duncan_column.html




When asked if he may miss the entire 2012-13 season, Eric Gordon said, "I don't know. I don't know at all. There's still no timetable."
https://twitter.com/AlexKennedyNBA

asandhu23
11-01-2012, 10:21 PM
cancer! CANCER!

Utd7
11-01-2012, 10:24 PM
Not saying he is faking an injury but he did make it clear to New Orleans that they should not match the Suns offer because he wanted to sign with Phoenix in the summer.

AsfanSince99
11-01-2012, 10:25 PM
They shud have listened when he told them not to match the contract.

InRoseWeTrust
11-01-2012, 10:27 PM
Not saying he is faking an injury but he did make it clear to New Orleans that they should not match the Suns offer because he wanted to sign with Phoenix in the summer.


They shud have listened when he told them not to match the contract.

Doesn't give him license to fake an injury. If wanted to pick his team with no restrictions, he should have signed a 1 year qualifying offer and then entered unrestricted free agency. Ridiculous that guys think they can enter RFA and choose whatever team they want. Not the way it works.

xxplayerxx23
11-01-2012, 10:27 PM
This ****er better stop, my fantasy team needs him with the injury to dirk and Amare he better get back to playing.

Vampirate
11-01-2012, 10:28 PM
They shud have listened when he told them not to match the contract.

He doesn't control their moves, he is employed by them.

If anything else the Hornet's will trade him, but they'll probably be in no rush to do so.

New Orleans has the leverage here, not the player.

KB-Pau-DH2012
11-01-2012, 10:29 PM
They shud have listened when he told them not to match the contract.

They can hold him hostage and trade him to a team to get multiple pieces that compliment Anthony Davis.

GiantsSwaGG
11-01-2012, 10:32 PM
He's a disgrace

JNoel
11-01-2012, 10:33 PM
NO is a major drug city, someone that I know used to be a huge crack dealer ( I think he still is) got busted and is not allowed to even step foot anywhere in NO or else he will get arrested. Maybe the drugs played into Gordon's decision to want to leave. :shrug:

Greedy22
11-01-2012, 10:34 PM
What a scrub.

GodsSon
11-01-2012, 10:35 PM
NO is a major drug city, someone that I know used to be a huge crack dealer ( I think he still is) got busted and is not allowed to even step foot anywhere in NO or else he will get arrested. Maybe the drugs played into Gordon's decision to want to leave. :shrug:

WTF? lol

Anyway, Calderon + Ed Davis for Gordon

FOBolous
11-01-2012, 10:35 PM
i wish players like this gets blacklisted out of the NBA. of course...that would never happen...or that whenever they pull crap like this, their value drop dramatically and can't get paid more than a certain amount.

mdm692
11-01-2012, 10:36 PM
Doesnt NOH need to ask permission to EJ to trade up until next summer? And then after that if he misses an entire season, again, who is going to be dumb enough to trade for him.

dodgersuck
11-01-2012, 10:37 PM
What a little *****, I bet he's going to pull a Howard

Fresno
11-01-2012, 10:39 PM
He doesn't control their moves, he is employed by them.

If anything else the Hornet's will trade him, but they'll probably be in no rush to do so.

New Orleans has the leverage here, not the player.

The guy collecting $58 Million GUARANTEED holds all of the leverage.

I cant complain if this is Eric Gordon's plan.

He told the Hornets not to match his contract and they had already drafted Austin Rivers to be his future replacement if he pans out. It was obvious that it didn't seem possible for them to co-exist. The Hornets shouldn't have matched the deal knowing he didnt want to be apart of a long rebuilding process.

Fresno
11-01-2012, 10:42 PM
i wish players like this gets blacklisted out of the NBA. of course...that would never happen...or that whenever they pull crap like this, their value drop dramatically and can't get paid more than a certain amount.

Why?

He didn't choose to go to New Orleans or be stuck there for 4 more years. Its not like he signed a deal with them.

Eric Gordon for Luol Deng + picks would be a great deal for both the Hornets & Bulls.

Hornets get an All Star SF in his prime who fits their defensive mentality
Bulls get the #2 scoring option in Gordon they need to get past Miami when Rose returns

InRoseWeTrust
11-01-2012, 10:44 PM
Why?

He didn't choose to go to New Orleans or be stuck there for 4 more years. Its not like he signed a deal with them.

Eric Gordon for Luol Deng + picks would be a great deal for both the Hornets & Bulls.


Yeah, he did sign a deal with them. A four year one. He knew any contract he signed could be matched. If he wanted unrestricted free agency, he should have waited a year.

GiantsSwaGG
11-01-2012, 10:45 PM
Why?

He didn't choose to go to New Orleans or be stuck there for 4 more years. Its not like he signed a deal with them.

Eric Gordon for Luol Deng + picks would be a great deal for both the Hornets & Bulls.

So what. If you don't like it, either take it up with the CBA or retire. It's a disgrace

bigsams50
11-01-2012, 10:45 PM
He should have signed a one year deal then, and hit free agency in the summer. He knew NO was going to match any deal he made

rubx3
11-01-2012, 10:46 PM
Why?

He didn't choose to go to New Orleans or be stuck there for 4 more years. Its not like he signed a deal with them.

Eric Gordon for Luol Deng + picks would be a great deal for both the Hornets & Bulls.

Hornets get an All Star SF in his prime who fits their defensive mentality
Bulls get the #2 scoring option in Gordon they need to get past Miami when Rose returns

i don't think the bulls don't want a cancer on team

Raps08-09 Champ
11-01-2012, 10:48 PM
They should've traded him for Harden when they had the chance.

I'd look at trading for Paul George or Bradley Beal.

JordansBulls
11-01-2012, 10:48 PM
Everyone knows this.

mdm692
11-01-2012, 10:48 PM
^^^So they do want a cancer?

JNoel
11-01-2012, 10:50 PM
WTF? lol

Anyway, Calderon + Ed Davis for Gordon

Trust me, you don't want Gordon on your team unless you want to see him for 20 games on the season.

GiantsSwaGG
11-01-2012, 10:53 PM
WTF? lol

Anyway, Calderon + Ed Davis for Gordon

So you want a cancer on your team?

Fresno
11-01-2012, 10:53 PM
Yeah, he did sign a deal with them. A four year one. He knew any contract he signed could be matched. If he wanted unrestricted free agency, he should have waited a year.

New Orleans would not have brought him back on a QO.

NBA teams dont want to that because you need the player's approval to trade them, forcing you to take a bad deal or let them walk. Thats why Washington ended up having to trade their leading scorer in Nick Young straight up for Brian Cook.

CEasFiRe
11-01-2012, 10:55 PM
gordan isnt a superstar so he should stfu

thephoenixson28
11-01-2012, 10:55 PM
Should've did a sign and trade with the Suns. They are rebuilding and Phoenix has more than enough picks.

GiantsSwaGG
11-01-2012, 10:56 PM
Phoenix stinks as well. He should sign a 1 year deal and test free agency

InRoseWeTrust
11-01-2012, 10:57 PM
New Orleans would not have brought him back on a QO.

NBA teams dont want to that because you need the player's approval to trade them, forcing you to take a bad deal or let them walk. Thats why Washington ended up having to trade their leading scorer in Nick Young straight up for Brian Cook.

You have no idea what you're talking about. NO offered him the QO to make him an RFA so they could bring him back. Gordon could have signed it, sucked it up for a year, and entered UFA. His bad.

Fresno
11-01-2012, 10:59 PM
He should have signed a one year deal then, and hit free agency in the summer. He knew NO was going to match any deal he made

There is no 1 year deal to sign.

The team extends the qualifying offer as a means for exclusive negotiating rights (Restricted Free Agency). If the player doesn't want to negotiate or they can't reach a reasonable deal then they typically rescind the QO and begin working on a sign & trade.

That sign & trade would revolve around a longterm deal.

Gordon would have never hit Unrestricted Free Agency either way.

Fresno
11-01-2012, 11:04 PM
You have no idea what you're talking about. NO offered him the QO to make him an RFA so they could bring him back. Gordon could have signed it, sucked it up for a year, and entered UFA. His bad.
Wrong, you have no idea about the business of the NBA or business in general. Its quite obvious.

If Gordon preferred the QO over a RFA contract, the Hornets would have never let him sign that.

It was issued as nothing more than a formality.

Why? Just so he can come back on a cheaper contract than anticipated? That doesn't make up for the fact he'd have essentially a No Trade Clause while already making it clear he would be leaving that following offseason.

InRoseWeTrust
11-01-2012, 11:10 PM
Wrong, you have no idea about the business of the NBA or business in general. Its quite obvious.

If Gordon preferred the QO over a RFA contract, the Hornets would have never let him sign that.

It was issued as nothing more than a formality.

Why? Just so he can come back on a cheaper contract than anticipated? That doesn't make up for the fact he'd have essentially a No Trade Clause while already making it clear he would be leaving that following offseason.

No, you just want Gordon to have his cake and eat it too. The QO was offered and was on the table. If Gordon wanted UFA, he could have taken the QO and waited a year. The Hornets couldn't have stopped him from signing it once it was offered. Had they rescinded it, he would have been an unrestricted free agent. You really don't get this do you.

InRoseWeTrust
11-01-2012, 11:12 PM
For instance, from an FAQ on the 2011 CBA:

"46. What if a restricted free agent has no interest in staying with his original team? Is there any way he can force the issue?

If the player really wants to leave, he can sign his original team's qualifying offer, which constitutes a one-year contract at a scale salary. He must then play with his original team for one season, and following that season he will become a free agent again. If he meets the tenure requirement he will be an unrestricted free agent, and then can sign with any other team."

This is not a difficult concept.

popo85
11-01-2012, 11:13 PM
They should of never re-signed that Gopher.

Fresno
11-01-2012, 11:14 PM
Should've did a sign and trade with the Suns. They are rebuilding and Phoenix has more than enough picks.

The problem is that Phoenix didn't have any contracts to trade.

The Phoenix Suns still basically have no valuable trade assets, its almost like Gordon picked the absolute worst team to want to deal with for the Hornets perspective.

Gordon's value continues to tank the longer he doesn't play.

His value doesn't dictate that of a budding 23 year old star who averaged 25 PPG for the first 3 months in Los Angeles during the 2010-2011 season.

sunsfan88
11-01-2012, 11:17 PM
Eric Gordon wanted to come to PHX not because we're a good team but because of our training staff.

We have the best training staff in all of pro sports and Gordon wanted them to keep him healthy.

Can anyone here actually blame him for that? For a guy wanting to stay healthy?

Vampirate
11-01-2012, 11:17 PM
NO has the power here, Eric Gordon has 4 years on his contract. It's not like he's in his last year and is causing havock (Dwight Howard).

If anything Eric Gordon should quit *****ing and play. By doing this ruckas he's not only hurting his trade value, he also hurting his future contract worth. The longer this goes, the more and more likely he'll lose money in the next contract once this contract is finished.

For **** sakes, at least Dwight and Lebron played like a player should throughout their deals till the last year kicked in. Gordon is making himself look pathetic.

GiantsSwaGG
11-01-2012, 11:18 PM
Eric Gordon wanted to come to PHX not because we're a good team but because of our training staff.

We have the best training staff in all of pro sports and Gordon wanted them to keep him healthy.

Can anyone here actually blame him for that? For a guy wanting to stay healthy?

He can always visit the staff just like Amare did. If you want to win, Pho shouldn't even be on the list

Fresno
11-01-2012, 11:21 PM
No, you just want Gordon to have his cake and eat it too. The QO was offered and was on the table. If Gordon wanted UFA, he could have taken the QO and waited a year. The Hornets couldn't have stopped him from signing it once it was offered. Had they rescinded it, he would have been an unrestricted free agent. You really don't get this do you.

Did you even read the post you had quoted before?

The Hornets would've worked out a sign & trade(AFTER rescinding the QO) before they would've let him have such leverage by actually signing it.

To my knowledge there has never been a case since they put this system in place where a MAX contract/Franchise player where a player actually signed his 5th year QO.

Its always been used as an evaluational type of contract.

Fresno
11-01-2012, 11:24 PM
NO has the power here, Eric Gordon has 4 years on his contract. It's not like he's in his last year and is causing havock (Dwight Howard).

If anything Eric Gordon should quit *****ing and play. By doing this ruckas he's not only hurting his trade value, he also hurting his future contract worth. The longer this goes, the more and more likely he'll lose money in the next contract once this contract is finished.

For **** sakes, at least Dwight and Lebron played like a player should throughout their deals till the last year kicked in. Gordon is making himself look pathetic.

Gordon played maybe 6 games last season after missing nearly 1/2 of the previous season and attracted a full Max Contract in Free Agency.

As long as he shows up in 1 of the final 2 years of this deal, he will get big money again on the open market as he is arguably the 3rd best SG in the NBA when healthy.

InRoseWeTrust
11-01-2012, 11:25 PM
Did you even read the post you had quoted before?

The Hornets would've worked out a sign & trade(AFTER rescinding the QO) before they would've let him have such leverage by actually signing it.

To my knowledge there has never been a case since they put this system in place where a MAX contract/Franchise player where a player actually signed his 5th year QO.

Its always been used as an evaluational type of contract.

You don't get this. If they rescind the QO, he becomes a UFA. Then he can go sign with Phoenix straight up.

Fresno
11-01-2012, 11:28 PM
He can always visit the staff just like Amare did. If you want to win, Pho shouldn't even be on the list

The addition of Eric Gordon would've more than made up for losing an aging Steve Nash.

I'll take the 23 year old SG who when healthy has shown he can average 20+PPG with above average defense to get my team back into the Playoffs and it likely would've happened.

You put Eric Gordon on this Suns team and they're a Playoff team in the West as Gordon contends with Durant for the scoring title.

sunsfan88
11-01-2012, 11:28 PM
He can always visit the staff just like Amare did. If you want to win, Pho shouldn't even be on the list

A'mare visited our staff after he went to NY?

Maybe to come say hi or something but definitely not for treatment or anything like that.

And New Orleans isn't that much of a better team than us. Even Gordon said after he signed with us that New Orleans was stupid for drafting another guard (Rivers) who plays same position as Gordon and ignoring their need for big men while Phoenix signed nice players in Dragic and Beasley.

Not my words, EJ's.

astrosmaniac
11-01-2012, 11:28 PM
Why?

He didn't choose to go to New Orleans or be stuck there for 4 more years. Its not like he signed a deal with them.

Eric Gordon for Luol Deng + picks would be a great deal for both the Hornets & Bulls.

Hornets get an All Star SF in his prime who fits their defensive mentality
Bulls get the #2 scoring option in Gordon they need to get past Miami when Rose returns


New Orleans would not have brought him back on a QO.

NBA teams dont want to that because you need the player's approval to trade them, forcing you to take a bad deal or let them walk. Thats why Washington ended up having to trade their leading scorer in Nick Young straight up for Brian Cook.

yes NO would have. they extended the QO. if they didnt, he would have become an UFA. so he should have taken the 1 year deal if he didnt want to be in NO

heyman321
11-01-2012, 11:31 PM
This ****er better stop, my fantasy team needs him with the injury to dirk and Amare he better get back to playing.

rofl!! You drafted a tema with MRI, Dirk and Eric Gordon?? Did you also draft Granger and Kevin Love too?

InRoseWeTrust
11-01-2012, 11:31 PM
yes NO would have. they extended the QO. if they didnt, he would have become an UFA. so he should have taken the 1 year deal if he didnt want to be in NO

He doesn't get how it works, don't waste your time. He's in Gordon's corner and clearly wants him to be on whatever team Gordon wants to be on, despite the fact that he didn't have right to dictate where he wanted to go yet.

TrAv=MaGiCfReAk
11-01-2012, 11:33 PM
Frenso is slow as ish ... lmao

This kinda crap in the NBA every year pisses me off ... shoulda just signed his QO and sucked it up for a year.... like it or not your there property its in a contract ... enough of this players wanting to strong arm there team to get to where they wanna go crap

mrblisterdundee
11-01-2012, 11:33 PM
If Eric Gordon does want to leave, he's a moron. New Orleans is a great situation for him, with an up an coming team and a player of his caliber in Anthony Davis. He and Austin Rivers would be one bad *** back court.

GiantsSwaGG
11-01-2012, 11:35 PM
A'mare visited our staff after he went to NY?

Maybe to come say hi or something but definitely not for treatment or anything like that.

And New Orleans isn't that much of a better team than us. Even Gordon said after he signed with us that New Orleans was stupid for drafting another guard (Rivers) who plays same position as Gordon and ignoring their need for big men while Phoenix signed nice players in Dragic and Beasley.

Not my words, EJ's.

He did for a second opinion on his knee. And NO stinks also

GiantsSwaGG
11-01-2012, 11:36 PM
The addition of Eric Gordon would've more than made up for losing an aging Steve Nash.

I'll take the 23 year old SG who when healthy has shown he can average 20+PPG with above average defense to get my team back into the Playoffs and it likely would've happened.

You put Eric Gordon on this Suns team and they're a Playoff team in the West as Gordon contends with Durant for the scoring title.

Ok WHEN HEALTHY...when was the last time he was healthy?

Fresno
11-01-2012, 11:38 PM
You don't get this. If they rescind the QO, he becomes a UFA. Then he can go sign with Phoenix straight up.

Then he'd be taking a $20 Million paycut to do so.

New Orleans had the ability to offer him 5 Years, $78 Million (the actual MAX contract) as they held his bird rights.

A sign & trade would have allowed Gordon to get the $78 Million over 5 seasons, play in Phoenix, & allowed for New Orleans to get some sort of compensation for losing him.

That option is FAR better than letting him play on a QO knowing he's going to leave and you'll get nothing of even partial value back for him.

& that option is FAR better than having him unhappy with 4 seasons remaining on his deal and his trade value dipping to the point you have to question swapping a role player for him.

TrAv=MaGiCfReAk
11-01-2012, 11:38 PM
Yea NO has a brighter future then the suns ... Davis and rivers could turn into something scola gortat dragic Beasley wont ever get past first round of playoffs ... if they could even make the playoffs that is

Fresno
11-01-2012, 11:42 PM
Ok WHEN HEALTHY...when was the last time he was healthy?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXi3Cd0TyDc

InRoseWeTrust
11-01-2012, 11:43 PM
Then he'd be taking a $20 Million paycut to do so.

New Orleans had the ability to offer him 5 Years, $78 Million (the actual MAX contract) as they had his bird rights.

A sign & trade would have allowed Gordon to get the $78 Million over 5 seasons, play in Phoenix, & allowed for New Orleans to get some sort of compensation for losing him.

That option is FAR better than letting him play on a QO knowing he's going to leave and you'll get nothing of even partial value back for him.

Right. That doesn't mean he gets to pick his team...it's just a situation that would have allowed him to get a max deal in his RFA year and go to the team of his choosing.

Unfortunately, that's not how RFA works. Teams get to match if they'd rather keep you as a player.

If you want the ability to pick any team you want, you take the QO when it's offered and enter UFA the next year. Or, you work out a sign and trade before hand so it's a semi-win-win. What you DON'T do is sign an offer sheet and then ask the team holding the right to match not to. It's a huge risk that doesn't make any sense.

Fresno
11-01-2012, 11:44 PM
yes NO would have. they extended the QO. if they didnt, he would have become an UFA. so he should have taken the 1 year deal if he didnt want to be in NO
....and walked out on $20 Million if he signed elsewhere.

As explained above.

P Harvy
11-01-2012, 11:45 PM
I saw Eric Gordon on a plane once. Dude's a douche. I asked him if he wanted my autograph and he said no. So I was like dueces.

Swashcuff
11-01-2012, 11:46 PM
Wait a minute is this anything more than just SPECULATION at this moment? Do we know for a fact that this is indeed what Eric Gordon is doing? Despite all that we may want to believe until Gordon (or a representative of his) actually gives us an indication that he really is staying off the floor so as to ensure that he gets traded I'll withhold my judgement of him as a person.

AsfanSince99
11-01-2012, 11:47 PM
Doesn't give him license to fake an injury. If wanted to pick his team with no restrictions, he should have signed a 1 year qualifying offer and then entered unrestricted free agency. Ridiculous that guys think they can enter RFA and choose whatever team they want. Not the way it works.
I didn't say it did. I'm just sayin that if I'm NOH, why put myself in this predicament for a guy who doesn't want to play for the team? Now the Hornets will most likely have to make a corresponding move to alleviate this "problem".

Don't think he was trying to choose a team, he just didn't want to play for that scrub franchise. Phoenix just happened to be the team that offered him the first contract.


If anything else the Hornet's will trade him, but they'll probably be in no rush to do so.
New Orleans has the leverage here, not the player.
How can they have any leverage? Gordon's stock just fell because he's deemed a malcontent player who may be faking an injury to get out of town.. that and his contract will only diminish his trade value.

InRoseWeTrust
11-01-2012, 11:48 PM
....and walked out on $20 Million if he signed elsewhere.

As explained above.

What does that have anything to do with it? The point was if he wanted to make sure he got to Phoenix, he could have waited a year. He chose to sign a 4 year deal knowing NO had the right to match. This isn't complicated at all.

GiantsSwaGG
11-01-2012, 11:48 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXi3Cd0TyDc

Eddy Curry made a buzzer beat as well, what's your point?

Fresno
11-01-2012, 11:52 PM
Right. That doesn't mean he gets to pick his team...it's just a situation that would have allowed him to get a max deal in his RFA year and go to the team of his choosing.

Unfortunately, that's not how RFA works. Teams get to match if they'd rather keep you as a player.

If you want the ability to pick any team you want, you take the QO when it's offered and enter UFA the next year. Or, you work out a sign and trade before hand so it's a semi-win-win. What you DON'T do is sign an offer sheet and then ask the team holding the right to match not to. It's a huge risk that doesn't make any sense.

Kinda like the team matching the offer sheet for a Max contract after the player asked the team not to do it.

The Hornets are the ones who had to make the investment, therefore they lose the most if things go bad.

Gordon did nothing but try to find the best situation for him and it could've been rectified for the Hornets to get some compensation for it no differently than they did when Chris Paul wanted out.

jp611
11-01-2012, 11:54 PM
Fresno :facepalm:

ACanadian
11-01-2012, 11:55 PM
As a Raptors fan this reminds me of something...... Hmmmmm

TrAv=MaGiCfReAk
11-01-2012, 11:57 PM
Who gives a f if he told them not to match it... its there RIGHT to match it he doesn't make the rules who cares what he said ... this dude is like talkin to a brick wall... so if he told them he better never trade him either they should listen? Its there right to do whatever they want with him within the rules he works for the hornets the hornets don't work for him

Fresno
11-01-2012, 11:57 PM
What does that have anything to do with it? The point was if he wanted to make sure he got to Phoenix, he could have waited a year. He chose to sign a 4 year deal knowing NO had the right to match. This isn't complicated at all.

Had he waited a year to go to Phoenix, they would still be in the same situation I detailed earlier. New Orleans would still have his bird rights. New Orleans would be the only team to be able to give him 5 Years + an extra $20 Million and they would still want to get compensation back via a sign & trade.

The Hornets wouldn't let him walk for nothing.

Even Cleveland got compensation back for LeBron.

InRoseWeTrust
11-02-2012, 12:01 AM
Had he waited a year to go to Phoenix, they would still be in the same situation I detailed earlier. New Orleans would still have his bird rights. New Orleans would be the only team to be able to give him 5 Years + an extra $20 Million and they would still want to get compensation back via a sign & trade.

The Hornets wouldn't let him walk for nothing.

Even Cleveland got compensation back for LeBron.

No, he wouldn't be in the same situation. He would be able to go to Phoenix, sign a K, and know that NO couldn't match it. Them having bird rights doesn't give them any power to prevent him from leaving. Why is this so hard to understand?

InRoseWeTrust
11-02-2012, 12:03 AM
Even Cleveland got compensation back for LeBron.

LeBron was an unrestricted free agent. The sign and trade was for the fifth year (not because Cleveland had a right to retain LeBron) and to prevent tampering charges against Miami.

Fresno
11-02-2012, 12:05 AM
Who gives a f if he told them not to match it... its there RIGHT to match it he doesn't make the rules who cares what he said ... this dude is like talkin to a brick wall... so if he told them he better never trade him either they should listen? Its there right to do whatever they want with him within the rules he works for the hornets the hornets don't work for him

The player holds all the leverage because he's the investment.

The Hornets knew what they were getting into so of course they DONT have to do anything he told them to do.

Point is, they still have to pay him whether he works or not.

Why do you guys not understand this?

You spend so much time talking about trading "bad contracts" and who will get amnestied in other threads but now you overlook the fact that whether a guy shows up or not he gets his check in the NBA.

jp611
11-02-2012, 12:10 AM
The player has no leverage lol

Especially when he's locked up for 4 seasons

You are making no sense

Fresno
11-02-2012, 12:11 AM
LeBron was an unrestricted free agent. The sign and trade was for the fifth year (not because Cleveland had a right to retain LeBron) and to prevent tampering charges against Miami.

How does this not apply to your exact same post?




No, he wouldn't be in the same situation. He would be able to go to Phoenix, sign a K, and know that NO couldn't match it. Them having bird rights doesn't give them any power to prevent him from leaving. Why is this so hard to understand?

Gordon didn't take a paycut to sign an Offer Sheet in Phoenix, he took the most he could get.

The fact New Orleans held his bird rights would've made him take the most he could get if they allowed him to become a UFA to work out a sign & trade to a team with the cap space (Phoenix) to take him on.

KobeOwnSU
11-02-2012, 12:14 AM
I would say the person making 15 million a year, whether he plays or not, has the leverage hahaha

jp611
11-02-2012, 12:14 AM
Also even if they have to pay him for 4 years to sit out I doubt anyone wants anything to do with that cancer for more then the minimum

As a restricted free agent you don't have the ability to decide where you want to be, you can be matched and that's exactly what happened with Gordon... Tough luck

jp611
11-02-2012, 12:14 AM
I would say the person making 15 million a year, whether he plays or not, has the leverage hahaha

Well the owner is making much more then 15 million a year so you'd be wrong

Fresno
11-02-2012, 12:17 AM
The player has no leverage lol

Especially when he's locked up for 4 seasons

You are making no sense

You're right.

He just collects his paycheck until his sore knee finally is 100% on February 17, 2014.

Now where does that leave the Hornets?

Why should I say the player has leverage when he impacts their W-L record, which brings revenue to the team & surrounding businesses.

astrosmaniac
11-02-2012, 12:20 AM
....and walked out on $20 Million if he signed elsewhere.

As explained above.

yeah, thats true of any FA signing a max with someone other than the team with the bird rights. it's the price of choosing to leave and everyone has to do it. the difference is that if he took the QO, played the year and then wanted to go to a team as an UFA he would have NO by the balls essentially and say "i'm leaving regardless but a S&T gives us both something"

jp611
11-02-2012, 12:20 AM
The player has no leverage lol

Especially when he's locked up for 4 seasons

You are making no sense

You're right.

He just collects his paycheck until his sore knee finally is 100% on February 17, 2014.

Now where does that leave the Hornets?

Why should I say the player has leverage when he impacts their W-L record, which brings revenue to the team & surrounding businesses.

Too bad for them, the owner will still make money and Eric Gordon will be a joke and lose out on another max contract

cuttydoesit6
11-02-2012, 12:21 AM
kids got talent but i dont think id ever want him on my team.... just too many injuries

Sadds The Gr8
11-02-2012, 12:22 AM
he truly is an *** hole. NBA players are a ****in joke.

Fresno
11-02-2012, 12:22 AM
Well the owner is making much more then 15 million a year so you'd be wrong

......But the franchise isn't.

We're not talking about a backup C who doesn't contribute either.

If Gordon is as healthy as has been reported & is buying into the system, he IS the difference between the Hornets having a OKC-like emergence as Davis develops or a long rebuilding project.

astrosmaniac
11-02-2012, 12:23 AM
The player holds all the leverage because he's the investment.

The Hornets knew what they were getting into so of course they DONT have to do anything he told them to do.

Point is, they still have to pay him whether he works or not.

Why do you guys not understand this?

You spend so much time talking about trading "bad contracts" and who will get amnestied in other threads but now you overlook the fact that whether a guy shows up or not he gets his check in the NBA.

actually no. if they can prove he isn't really hurt and just refusing to pay, they can sue for their money back as a breach of contract

Jarvo
11-02-2012, 12:25 AM
:laugh: Damn Gordon you're a diva also?

jp611
11-02-2012, 12:25 AM
And it wouldn't be hard to get him for breach of contract either

Fresno
11-02-2012, 12:26 AM
Too bad for them, the owner will still make money and Eric Gordon will be a joke and lose out on another max contract

The Hornets franchise has been losing money for years so the owner is going to lose money on his investment.

Gordon may be viewed by you as a joke, but he certainly wont be broke.

sharqstealth
11-02-2012, 12:29 AM
trade him for a draft pick

Fresno
11-02-2012, 12:31 AM
actually no. if they can prove he isn't really hurt and just refusing to pay, they can sue for their money back as a breach of contract

Well for starters that has never happened in NBA history.

Secondly, the fact he did undergo a knee surgery before the Hornets gave him the contract works in Gordon's favor.

But which is worse: A player sitting out because he doesn't want to play or a player giving less than 50% effort to make his point clear (Vince Carter in Toronto)

jp611
11-02-2012, 12:33 AM
actually no. if they can prove he isn't really hurt and just refusing to pay, they can sue for their money back as a breach of contract

Well for starters that has never happened in NBA history.

Secondly, the fact he did undergo a knee surgery before the Hornets gave him the contract works in Gordon's favor.

Because no one has just faked an injury for 4 years in NBA history :laugh2:

And no the knee surgery means nothing... If structurally his knee is okay and he's not playing out the contract he signed, he's in breach of it

astrosmaniac
11-02-2012, 12:34 AM
when the doctors can't find anything physically wrong with you, then you can play at better than 50%

also interested in hearing your response to this:

yeah, thats true of any FA signing a max with someone other than the team with the bird rights. it's the price of choosing to leave and everyone has to do it. the difference is that if he took the QO, played the year and then wanted to go to a team as an UFA he would have NO by the balls essentially and say "i'm leaving regardless but a S&T gives us both something"

The goods
11-02-2012, 12:37 AM
IF he's faking he should be banned from the NBA this **** is getting out of control, players demanding this and that, and pouting when they don't get their way this is sad.

Fresno
11-02-2012, 12:37 AM
Also even if they have to pay him for 4 years to sit out I doubt anyone wants anything to do with that cancer for more then the minimum


Well there'd be 29 teams bidding against each other for him, assuming the opening bid is at the minimum.

Its not like he proved he can't play when he actually goes on the floor.

Gordon is guaranteed to get you 20+ PPG each night and he's a good defender. Thats hard to find.

Gram
11-02-2012, 12:38 AM
Eric Gordon.

sixer04fan
11-02-2012, 12:38 AM
Thank god Stern forced him into the Chris Paul trade. That's really working out well.

Vinylman
11-02-2012, 12:38 AM
This Fresno guy is always changing his arguments... the funniest thing he is spouting off about now is a S&T where Gordon would get an extra year... sorry dude... they closed that loophole in the new CBA... if gordon signed the QO and became an UFA the most he could get is 4 years with 4.5% increases... there is basically no incentive for S&T's of UFA's any longer like under the previous CBA

Keep talking your ish ... it is comical

don't believe me though... here it is straight from Larry Coon

90. Why would teams or players want to do a sign-and-trade?

Teams benefit because they can get something in return for players they would otherwise lose to free agency. For players the benefits are limited. Under previous CBAs a player who qualified could receive a full Bird contract and go to the team of his choice, which encouraged the player to seek a sign-and-trade once he decided to play elsewhere. Under the current CBA a player receives the same contract via sign-and-trade (four years, 4.5% raises) that he could get by signing with his new team directly, and can receive a larger Bird contract only if he stays with his previous team. In addition, it is much simpler for the player to sign directly with his new team, as a sign-and-trade has to be agreed to by three parties rather than two. A player is really only forced to seek a sign-and-trade if he wants to go to a team that is capped-out (or doesn't have enough cap room to give the player his full starting salary) and can't sign him directly.


http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q90

Fresno
11-02-2012, 12:41 AM
yeah, thats true of any FA signing a max with someone other than the team with the bird rights. it's the price of choosing to leave and everyone has to do it. the difference is that if he took the QO, played the year and then wanted to go to a team as an UFA he would have NO by the balls essentially and say "i'm leaving regardless but a S&T gives us both something"

But NO would've gotten that out of the way before it could have ever gotten that far to the point he's playing on a 1 year deal while knowing he is leaving.

I had mentioned that earlier.

Johann
11-02-2012, 12:43 AM
All allegations.
Until he comes out and says he's frustrated with the team and the city, you can't be calling a 4th year player 'a cancer'...

Unless I'm missing something here (I don't follow Hornet's politics or anything), you really can't assume.

astrosmaniac
11-02-2012, 12:44 AM
But NO would've gotten that out of the way before it could have ever gotten that far to the point he's playing on a 1 year deal while knowing he is leaving.

I had mentioned that earlier.

how? they can't S&T him as a RFA without his permission. bottom line, if Gordon really couldnt stand NO, he should have signed the QO and he would have been wherever he wanted to be in a year

Vinylman
11-02-2012, 12:45 AM
yeah, thats true of any FA signing a max with someone other than the team with the bird rights. it's the price of choosing to leave and everyone has to do it. the difference is that if he took the QO, played the year and then wanted to go to a team as an UFA he would have NO by the balls essentially and say "i'm leaving regardless but a S&T gives us both something"

no it isn't true... UFA's can only get 4 year deals with a new team... there is NO way to get 5 signing as a UFA

that is why guys like bynum/dwight/CP3 will be walking away from alot of guaranteed money this summer if they sign with someone else

astrosmaniac
11-02-2012, 12:47 AM
no it isn't true... UFA's can only get 4 year deals with a new team... there is NO way to get 5 signing as a UFA

that is why guys like bynum/dwight/CP3 will be walking away from alot of guaranteed money this summer if they sign with someone else

that's true i forgot it got changed in the CBA. i meant it's true that any player signing with someone besides his current team is "leaving $20 million on the table" in the process. thats the incentive for loyalty and the price for choosing FA

Vinylman
11-02-2012, 12:49 AM
that's true i forgot it got changed in the CBA. i meant it's true that any player signing with someone besides his current team is "leaving $20 million on the table" in the process. thats the incentive for loyalty and the price for choosing FA

you might have been saying that but Fresno wasn't...

Dade County
11-02-2012, 12:50 AM
Doesn't give him license to fake an injury. If wanted to pick his team with no restrictions, he should have signed a 1 year qualifying offer and then entered unrestricted free agency. Ridiculous that guys think they can enter RFA and choose whatever team they want. Not the way it works.

Thank you sir, I thought I was going to get banned tonight, because some clowns posted above you, and I was really getting HOT!

astrosmaniac
11-02-2012, 12:53 AM
you might have been saying that but Fresno wasn't...

oh no, i know. i was just clarify my point. i disagree with fresno. no reason or excuse to fake an injury cause he doesnt wanna play there, especially when he put himself in that situation

TheNumber37
11-02-2012, 12:54 AM
If that's his strategy then it's not a good one. They have the power and would just let him sit, not travel with the team, not allowed in the arena. No basketball for a year, when he'd be "healthy".
True, he told them not to match the Phoenix offer as that was his preference. He'll play, and he should play well because the won't trade him at a low value cause they need a premiere scoring wing to pair with Davis and Harden is no longer an option.
Rudy Gay?
Danny Granger?

OldStyleCubbies
11-02-2012, 12:56 AM
Eric Gordon is a good guy. Went to H.S. with him. Ship him back home to Indy for Granger and call it a day. Everybody's happy.

Alayla
11-02-2012, 01:00 AM
Lol this is like the 3rd reactionest thread in as many days i mean come on unless you have concrete proof hes faking why should we even be talking about this

OldStyleCubbies
11-02-2012, 01:01 AM
Exactly, what if he is really hurt?

uptownfan
11-02-2012, 01:03 AM
I don't mean to point fingers at Eric Gordon because maybe there is something legitimately wrong with his knee. But I will say this - this is the same guy who decommitted from Illinois back in the day. I'll also never forget when he got traded he tweeted "wow." I mean, yea, getting traded is shocking, but if he got traded to the Knicks, Lakers, Bulls, etc., I highly doubt he tweets something like that. That tweet was kind of a slap in the face to New Orleans if you ask me

Vampirate
11-02-2012, 01:15 AM
Didn't Ricky Rubio threaten to not play for the Minnisota Timberwolves? How did that turn out? Memo to NBA players in the words of Mick Jagger "You can't always get what you want"

THE MTL
11-02-2012, 02:52 AM
Hornets should have NEVER matched it. Anthony Davis is the best rookie prospect since Lebron James. I would completely build around him. Heck, even take another top 5 lot pick this season to hopefully land another future star.

mdm692
11-02-2012, 03:56 AM
Well the owner is making much more then 15 million a year so you'd be wrong

The owner is doing his job investing his money on his team EJ is sitting his *** on the bench and getting paid 15 mill to pretend he has an injury. You're definitely wrong. Even if the owner isn't doing anything he still had to give something up(money) before receiving compensation while EJ is giving NO the middle finger for 15 mill/year lol.

Trueblue2
11-02-2012, 05:48 AM
There is no 1 year deal to sign.

The team extends the qualifying offer as a means for exclusive negotiating rights (Restricted Free Agency). If the player doesn't want to negotiate or they can't reach a reasonable deal then they typically rescind the QO and begin working on a sign & trade.

That sign & trade would revolve around a longterm deal.

Gordon would have never hit Unrestricted Free Agency either way.

Not true, he could take the QO and be a UFA after a season. That's what a qualifying offer is, it's a 1 year contract that's worth the minimum amount a team can offer to their own RFA and still retain the right to match any other team's offers. If a player wants out all he has to do is sign the qualifying offer and he'll be a UFA after the next season, he could ask to be traded or S&T but the only sure way for the team and player to have a clean break is signing the 1 year qualifying offer.

Had he signed the QO he could have (and probably would have) been traded by NO to Phoenix along with his bird rights and NO would have been able to dump a bad contract along with him. Then Phoenix could have signed him to a 5 year max after that. That would be a win win for both teams. An RFA can choose to take the money or to become unrestricted after the season, Gordon chose the money so he should quit *****ing and act like an adult about the situation.

Swashcuff
11-02-2012, 08:26 AM
Lol this is like the 3rd reactionest thread in as many days i mean come on unless you have concrete proof hes faking why should we even be talking about this

The columnists are just sitting back and watching the headless chickens run around until they fall. There has been NO confirmation of this yet everyone is ready to call him a cancer and the worst thing in the league.

Swashcuff
11-02-2012, 08:30 AM
Hornets should have NEVER matched it. Anthony Davis is the best rookie prospect since Lebron James. I would completely build around him. Heck, even take another top 5 lot pick this season to hopefully land another future star.

:bs:

Almost every year we hear this very same.

KD and Oden were better rookie prospects, so was Blake and John Wall as well. Hell there was a point where Harrison Barnes and Andre Drummond was seen as better prospects than Davis. KD and oden were hands down the best and most highly touted prospects coming into the league since LeBron.

jp611
11-02-2012, 08:44 AM
Well the owner is making much more then 15 million a year so you'd be wrong

The owner is doing his job investing his money on his team EJ is sitting his *** on the bench and getting paid 15 mill to pretend he has an injury. You're definitely wrong. Even if the owner isn't doing anything he still had to give something up(money) before receiving compensation while EJ is giving NO the middle finger for 15 mill/year lol.

And his contract will be terminated and he won't get a single dollar because he was in breach of contract

mdm692
11-02-2012, 09:05 AM
And his contract will be terminated and he won't get a single dollar because he was in breach of contract

And if that is so he gets his wishes lol. Win-win for him, he still holds the leverage. Hell if his contract is voided due to medical reasons or brech of contract or whatever reason, either way I'm nearly 100% sure he will take some time off and next summer Phx, Ind, among other teams will be knocking on his door to offer the max. I don't know how it would work if his contracts is voided but if it was allowed that's basically what will happen after he gets terminated. He still wins.

jp611
11-02-2012, 09:07 AM
If he's in breach of contract I guarantee he won't be getting another max deal, no one would want him for that price

Swashcuff
11-02-2012, 09:09 AM
And if that is so he gets his wishes lol. Win-win for him, he still holds the leverage. Hell if his contract is voided due to medical reasons or brech of contract or whatever reason, either way I'm nearly 100% sure he will take some time off and next summer Phx, Ind, among other teams will be knocking on his door to offer the max. I don't know how it would work if his contracts is voided but if it was allowed that's basically what will happen after he gets terminated. He still wins.

Not likely.

AddiX
11-02-2012, 09:12 AM
I didn't believe EG would do something like this until he said he wasn't sure if he would play this year.

He's obviously not hurt to the point he would miss a whole year, makes me think he's full of ****. Sad day when ppl have become so spoiled that a guy making 15 million a year to play basketball can act like some sort of victim.

IndyRealist
11-02-2012, 09:44 AM
If he didn't want to be there, he should have just taken the qualifying offer and been an unrestricted free agent next summer. This is a punk move.

ackar
11-02-2012, 09:56 AM
Is anyone here a medical doctor that has examined EG knee? How do you know he is faking? Did NO front office or medical team say he was? Because if NO front office knows he is faking but is putting out a false injury report the league will have a problem with that. Got to make sure Vegas has the correct line for the games.

IndyRealist
11-02-2012, 10:07 AM
Is anyone here a medical doctor that has examined EG knee? How do you know he is faking? Did NO front office or medical team say he was? Because if NO front office knows he is faking but is putting out a false injury report the league will have a problem with that. Got to make sure Vegas has the correct line for the games.

Doctors said he's cleared to play.

And pain is subjective and not really measurable. A doctor's not going to say he's faking pain.

C_Mund
11-02-2012, 10:08 AM
He doesn't control their moves, he is employed by them.

If anything else the Hornet's will trade him, but they'll probably be in no rush to do so.

New Orleans has the leverage here, not the player.

Exactly. Frankly if there was only one team he'd play for he shouldn't have signed the offer sheet and given the Hornets a chance to match. I hope they trade him somewhere he'd never want to go.... like TORONTO!!!!

yaswaggin
11-02-2012, 10:08 AM
what a douche, howard did the same thing with his back.

ridiculous prima donnas in the league today

TheIlladelph16
11-02-2012, 12:04 PM
Yeah so a story that is 100% speculative has everyone turning on this guy...? I'll reserve judgement until there is objective proof this guy is tanking and/or faking an injury, not some speculative bs.

People keep bringing up the qualifying offer and how he should have signed it, which I agree with if he truly didn't want to be in NO long-term. But doesn't the fact that he did not sign one kind of point to the notion that he actually does want to be in NO at least a little bit? It's not as if EG or his agent were unaware of what a qualifying offer is.

mdm692
11-02-2012, 01:26 PM
Exactly. Frankly if there was only one team he'd play for he shouldn't have signed the offer sheet and given the Hornets a chance to match. I hope they trade him somewhere he'd never want to go.... like TORONTO!!!!
That would put him in the playoffs more than likely with how weak the east is.

DerekRE_3
11-02-2012, 03:24 PM
If Gordon didn't want to play in NO then don't sign an offer sheet. Sign the qualifying offer and then become an unrestricted free agent next summer.

Vampirate
11-02-2012, 04:05 PM
And if that is so he gets his wishes lol. Win-win for him, he still holds the leverage. Hell if his contract is voided due to medical reasons or brech of contract or whatever reason, either way I'm nearly 100% sure he will take some time off and next summer Phx, Ind, among other teams will be knocking on his door to offer the max. I don't know how it would work if his contracts is voided but if it was allowed that's basically what will happen after he gets terminated. He still wins.

If Eric Gordon's contract gets voided then he stands to lose a LOT of guaranteed money now and in the future considering his career would be tarnished by his antics.

Kelly Gruber
11-02-2012, 04:27 PM
Trade him for Alonzo Mourning, Eric Williams, and Aaron Williams.

KnicksorBust
11-02-2012, 04:40 PM
It's frustrating because a future of Davis/Gordon could have been bright for the Hornets. Hope none of the rumors are true and that we see him making his debut soon.

JeffG20
11-02-2012, 04:46 PM
Trade him for Alonzo Mourning, Eric Williams, and Aaron Williams.

thats a tempting offer at this point

Punk
11-02-2012, 04:58 PM
I saw this coming along time ago when he basically told the Hornets, "my heart is with Phoenix and their organization" but they still decided to match regardless of where his mind or focus is at and this is what happens.

He's pulling a Chris Paul and I'm sure it will end ugly too.

leprechaun5
11-02-2012, 05:05 PM
there are words that he may need a surgery

leprechaun5
11-02-2012, 05:09 PM
Marc J. Spears ‏@SpearsNBAYahoo
Hornets guard Eric Gordon tells Yahoo! Sports that a doctor in Chicago told him today he can return from his knee injury in 4-to-6 weeks.

..

Swashcuff
11-02-2012, 05:23 PM
..

:speechless:

Ebbs
11-02-2012, 05:24 PM
In the event he is faking an injury he needs to be punished.

futureman
11-02-2012, 05:32 PM
I'm so sick of players pulling this crap. The league needs to start suspending these guys and pay them with only a fraction of their contract for the duration of the deal. This will really start deterring them.

Swashcuff
11-02-2012, 05:38 PM
I'm not feeling to start any threads but to all those bashing Gordon like utter retards because of some coloumnist trying to get that exact idiotic reaction out of you read this (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8584181/eric-gordon-new-orleans-hornets-offered-surgery-potential-remedy-knee-injury).


No firm decisions have been made as New Orleans Hornets guard Eric Gordon continues to seek additional opinions on his troublesome right knee, but microfracture surgery has been presented as one of a number of potential remedies, according to sources with knowledge of the situation.

Gordon is scheduled to consult with a knee specialist this weekend as the Hornets try to pinpoint a definitive course of action -- whether that's a surgical procedure or a revamped rehabilitation program -- after their highest-paid player was shelved indefinitely this week.

The recovery plan, sources said, is unlikely to be finalized before early next week.

Gordon missed all but nine games last season due to knee problems but still received a four-year, $58 million maximum offer sheet from the Phoenix Suns in July as a restricted free agent. The Hornets matched the offer and held out hope all month that Gordon would be ready to play by opening night, only for Hornets coach Monty Williams to announce earlier this week that Gordon would need more time off.

In a visit with local media Thursday, Gordon acknowledged that there has been "a little bit of a setback as far as this injury" since he publicly addressed his health in September. Gordon last played full-speed basketball without restrictions in July in an unsuccessful audition for Team USA in Las Vegas.

"Nothing structural," Gordon said of the injury. "There has been a little bit of soreness and swelling. I'm always listening to the doctors and they've told me there is swelling, but obviously I can tell myself that there has been a little bit of swelling.

"That's why I'm not playing. The past few days I have been practicing because I thought it was something I could deal with pain-wise. I went to the organization the other day and told them that it was not feeling good. It is very painful."

Gordon expressed hope that a timetable for treatment would be finalized this weekend, but it remains unclear whether surgery will be needed or if further rest and rehabilitation will prove sufficient.

The idea of microfracture surgery was broached with Gordon last season, sources told ESPN.com, but Gordon was resistant to such serious surgery heading into his free-agent summer. Gordon, 23, did end up having arthroscopic surgery -- a lesser procedure -- in February.

Concerns about the knee prompted the Hornets to let Gordon become a restricted free agent, but New Orleans ultimately decided to match the Suns' offer sheet despite Gordon's public pleas to be set free so he could join Phoenix.

Gordon is a big part of the Hornets' plans not only because of his new contract but because he's the primary player New Orleans received from the Los Angeles Clippers in December's Chris Paul trade. He's projected as one of New Orleans' prime complements to new franchise player Anthony Davis, who was selected with the No. 1 overall pick in June.

"It has been very frustrating not to be able to play," Gordon said Thursday. "I only played nine games last year and I haven't played any games this year. I didn't play in any preseason games. It has been very frustrating watching the guys play and not being a part of it. I know from a fan's perspective that it is very frustrating for them, but as a player it is most frustrating for me and this organization.

"I know it's tough, but it's very hard on me. This is an injury that I have battled with and it's frustrating, because this is a great city and a great organization and I definitely want to be a part of it. Being a part of it for me is being out there playing. The reason I'm not playing is because of this injury."

And this (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8581711/eric-gordon-new-orleans-hornets-says-knee-injury-legitimate)


Disputing speculation that he's unhappy in New Orleans, Eric Gordon said Thursday the injury to his right knee is legitimate and he wants to play for the Hornets.

Gordon said he had a setback after trying out for the U.S. Olympic team this past summer. He insisted that he's not sitting out to show his displeasure over the Hornets matching a four-year, $58 million offer from the Phoenix Suns.

"I know things haven't been going as well as hoped," Gordon said after practice at the team's suburban training facility. "It's tough as a player to go through these things. You're looking for the best from yourself, and you look forward to doing what is best for the team. As a player, I definitely look forward to helping this franchise and always look out for the best for this team. It has been very frustrating not to be able to play."

Gordon was dealt to the Hornets last year in the Chris Paul trade, but wound up playing only nine games because of his knee. He returned late in the year after surgery, and the team thought he was over the problem. But it cropped up again, forcing him to miss all of the preseason and Wednesday night's opener against San Antonio.

When Gordon's picture was shown on the scoreboard during pregame ceremonies, the home crowd booed loudly. Coach Monty Williams also seemed a bit skeptical about the seriousness of the injury.

"He probably does feel pain," Williams said. "That would be the only reason why a guy can't play."

When pressed by reporters for details of Gordon's injury, the coach grew impatient.

"I'll find out more as we go forward," Williams said. "I'm not going to do this every game. I've told you he's not playing. He's out indefinitely."

When Paul was traded to the Los Angeles Clippers, Gordon was the key part of the package that New Orleans got in return. The Hornets slumped to last place in the Western Conference last season, but they hope to rebuild around Gordon and No. 1 draft pick Anthony Davis, who scored 21 points in his pro debut.

"I know from a fans' perspective that it is very frustrating for them, but as a player it is most frustrating for me and this organization," Gordon said. "I know it's tough, but it's very hard on me. This is an injury that I have battled with and it's frustrating, because this is a great city and a great organization and I definitely want to be a part of it. Being a part of it for me is being out there playing. The reason I'm not playing is because of this injury."

Gordon said there are no structural problems in his knee, but it's just too sore for him to play.

"I have had a little bit of a setback as far as this injury," he said. "There has been a little bit of soreness and swelling. I'm always listening to the doctors and they've told me there is swelling, but obviously I can tell myself that there has been a little bit of swelling."

While Gordon doesn't know when he might be able to play, he hopes to have a better idea by the weekend.

"There is no timetable," he said. "That is something for me and the doctors to figure out."

Gordon again stressed that the injury is real.

"That's why I'm not playing," he said. "The past few days I have been practicing, because I thought it was something I might be able to deal with pain-wise. I went to the organization the other day and told them that it was not feeling good. It is very painful."

mdm692
11-02-2012, 05:51 PM
^^^I don't doubt there might still be some soreness and swelling and it's his decision whether to play or not. I saw the interview though and it looks like a speech that he wrote to get the media off his back.

Fresno
11-02-2012, 06:05 PM
I'm not feeling to start any threads but to all those bashing Gordon like utter retards because of some coloumnist trying to get that exact idiotic reaction out of you read this (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8584181/eric-gordon-new-orleans-hornets-offered-surgery-potential-remedy-knee-injury).



And this (http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8581711/eric-gordon-new-orleans-hornets-says-knee-injury-legitimate)

Microfracture knee surgery?

DeRozan10
11-02-2012, 10:02 PM
So Eric Gordon will be out 4-6 weeks ... That puts his return right around december 15 ....

Intresting :)

Haha I wouldnt be surprised to see Gordon dealt before playing another game in a Hornets uniform.

They probably won't get a "James Harden" package for him, but i'd still imagine they could get a nice player for him ...

JayW_1023
11-02-2012, 11:03 PM
At least Melo and Dwight have been franchise cornerstones.

E. Gordon hasn't done **** to warrant this whine-fest. Bleh.

xxplayerxx23
11-02-2012, 11:23 PM
:sigh: Killing my fantasy team.

aussie
11-02-2012, 11:28 PM
He doesn't control their moves, he is employed by them.

If anything else the Hornet's will trade him, but they'll probably be in no rush to do so.

New Orleans has the leverage here, not the player.
i agree here, it was a good move by Dell to match the offer, we were only getting Lopez and scrubs anyway for him, atleast now we have Lopez and can get better players to fit around AD and since arriving Dell hasn't made 1 bad trade, so I'm excited to see what happens here

Hornets are in control of this, doesn't matter what Gordon thinks/says or fakes

aussie
11-02-2012, 11:33 PM
plus PHX can't get him :D

sunsfan88
11-03-2012, 12:40 AM
plus PHX can't get him :D

Hilarious how your happy with a unhappy player who refuses to play for you guys staying on your team and taking up much of the cap space.

RaiderKid318
11-03-2012, 12:46 AM
Hilarious how your happy with a unhappy player who refuses to play for you guys staying on your team and taking up much of the cap space.

Hilarious how butt hurt you still are.

IDunknown
11-03-2012, 12:56 AM
A'mare visited our staff after he went to NY?

Maybe to come say hi or something but definitely not for treatment or anything like that.

And New Orleans isn't that much of a better team than us. Even Gordon said after he signed with us that New Orleans was stupid for drafting another guard (Rivers) who plays same position as Gordon and ignoring their need for big men while Phoenix signed nice players in Dragic and Beasley.

Not my words, EJ's.

Yes Amar'e did to get a second opinion of his recent knee injury.

mdm692
11-03-2012, 01:06 AM
^^^He didn't get treatment though.

JeffG20
11-03-2012, 07:11 AM
we dont need this guy anyway.... nothing but a cancer. problem is for this year anyway he has the right to refuse where he goes.... so he'll probably be around for at least another year. after that we could send him anywhere though....just bench his *** for a year since he's so soft anyway

king4day
11-03-2012, 09:03 AM
Unless he's got an insider in Phoenix that knows he's faking, there's no way the Suns go near a trade to bring him over.
Also, we can't deal for him until at least after this season. So it's not worth the trouble.

JeffG20
11-03-2012, 09:16 AM
Unless he's got an insider in Phoenix that knows he's faking, there's no way the Suns go near a trade to bring him over.
Also, we can't deal for him until at least after this season. So it's not worth the trouble.

PHO cant trade for him for the duration of this contract.

he has right of refusal this year....after that we can trade him anwhere but PHO. PHO cant trade or sign him till the contract ends

rhymeratic
11-03-2012, 09:30 AM
Yeah he definitely is faking it folks. He's like a cheating wife.. I know this first hand.

aussie
11-03-2012, 10:49 AM
http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?t=776322

Bring your A-Game fellas

osmosis da kid
11-03-2012, 02:43 PM
i wish players like this gets blacklisted out of the NBA. of course...that would never happen...or that whenever they pull crap like this, their value drop dramatically and can't get paid more than a certain amount.
Melo, Chris Paul and Dwight Howard should be black listed then. :facepalm: