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Driven
10-30-2012, 10:25 PM
CATCHER
American League: Matt Wieters
National League: Yadier Molina

LEFT FIELD
American League: Alex Gordon
National League: Carlos Gonzalez

CENTER FIELD
American League: Adam Jones
National League: Andrew McCutchen

RIGHT FIELD
American League: Josh Reddick
National League: Jason Heyward

FIRST BASE
American League: Mark Teixeira
National League: Adam LaRoche

SECOND BASE
American League: Robinson Cano
National League: Darwin Barney

SHORTSTOP
American League: J.J. Hardy
National League: Jimmy Rollins

THIRD BASE
American League: Adrian Beltre
National League: Chase Headley

PITCHER
American League: Jake Peavy, Jeremy Hellickson
National League: Mark Buehrle

giants73756
10-30-2012, 10:31 PM
Adam Jones :laugh:

Rylinkus
10-30-2012, 10:31 PM
Did Alex Gordon hit his way to a GG?

Wow, Didn't realize he was so good in the field. Nevermind, I stand corrected.

rkelly7
10-30-2012, 10:33 PM
Wow, O's are raking with gold glove winners. 3/9, impressive. I put more stock into the fielding bible, but still.

ritz
10-30-2012, 10:35 PM
Chase Headley wins the GG because he had more RBI than Wright because Wright sure as **** was the best defensive 3B in the NL.

djak
10-30-2012, 10:36 PM
No Trout

Yankee Clipper
10-30-2012, 10:37 PM
No Mike Trout or David Wright = :laugh:

These guys are morons.

Rylinkus
10-30-2012, 10:37 PM
No Trout

Given the overall season he had, I would have thought he'd be on more voters radars.

Driven
10-30-2012, 10:38 PM
Adam Jones :laugh:
Seriously. I thought they learned their lesson the first time.

djak
10-30-2012, 10:40 PM
Given the overall season he had, I would have thought he'd be on more voters radars.

Same here.

No way he gets the MVP after this :facepalm:

DamnGoat
10-30-2012, 10:40 PM
Congrats Darwin Barney. Well deserved.

Driven
10-30-2012, 10:41 PM
All of the GG have been announced, and edited in the first post.

giants73756
10-30-2012, 10:41 PM
Jimmy Rollins?...

YoungStuna
10-30-2012, 10:43 PM
Chase Headley wins the GG because he had more RBI than Wright because Wright sure as **** was the best defensive 3B in the NL.

Word, I'm ****ing pissed bro

YoungStuna
10-30-2012, 10:45 PM
They need to stop letting managers and coaches around the league decide this, this is ********.

No ****ing way was Adam Jones a better defender than Mike Trout. McCutchen is incredibly overrated as well. Bourn should have won it easily, what a joke of an award.

hugepatsfan
10-30-2012, 10:45 PM
The OP spelled Derek Jeter wrong...

metswon69
10-30-2012, 10:46 PM
That's really ridiculous Wright had the second best UZR among 3rd baseman in baseball (15.4) and they gave it to Headley who had a 6 UZR and a -3 DRS.

I know UZR can be a flawed statistic but Wright was great at 3rd base this year.

Same with Trout over Jones.

Sick Of It All
10-30-2012, 10:47 PM
I thought Wright not getting it was a travesty, but no Trout? lol

seriously who are these idiots that vote for these awards?

I think they voted Jones because his team made it to the playoffs while Trouts team did not.

roylikeswaffles
10-30-2012, 10:47 PM
jimmy rollins?...

+1

YoungStuna
10-30-2012, 10:51 PM
Jimmy Rollins is hardly the worst person they put up there, the only guy you could really argue for is Zack Cozart.

Bravo95
10-30-2012, 10:52 PM
Well deserved, Heyward. The first of many.

rocket
10-30-2012, 10:52 PM
Adam jo

what

OldStyleCubbies
10-30-2012, 10:53 PM
Austin Jackson was better than Adam Jones as well.

YoungStuna
10-30-2012, 10:56 PM
The guys they had right: Heyward, Reddick, Wieters, Molina, Gordon, Teixera, LaRoche, Cano, Barney, Hardy, and Buehrle.

The guys they had wrong: Cargo, Jones, McCutchen, Headley, Beltre, and Rollins

albo23
10-30-2012, 10:56 PM
Oh God I'm ready to keel over reading this thread. We have forum posters declaring their superiority and denouncing these MLB managers and General Managers.

"B-b-b-but our sabermetrics told us Trout is the best!!1!"

I don't think it's necessary to say who the managers got "wrong." I think what we should all do is analyze who WE got wrong.

djak
10-30-2012, 10:57 PM
The guys they had right: Heyward, Reddick, Wieters, Molina, Gordon, Teixera, LaRoche, Cano, Barney, Hardy, and Buehrle.

The guys they had wrong: Cargo, Jones, McCutchen, Headley, Beltre, and Rollins

Who is your choice for AL 3B?

Bob Loblaw
10-30-2012, 10:57 PM
who won the DH one?

djak
10-30-2012, 10:59 PM
Moustakas was very good he deserves it

Sick Of It All
10-30-2012, 11:00 PM
Who is your choice for AL 3B?

Moustakas.

Havoc Wreaker
10-30-2012, 11:00 PM
Jimmy Rollins?...
Who would you give it to?

ELGUAPO408
10-30-2012, 11:05 PM
Brandon Crawford :clap:

Driven
10-30-2012, 11:07 PM
EDIT: nvm

RTL
10-30-2012, 11:10 PM
If only Brandon Crawford had a good first half

yfern328
10-30-2012, 11:13 PM
Brendan Ryan, David Wright, and Mike Trout are all the biggest snubs this year.

Brendan Ryan and David Wright had the highest UZR/150 of ALL INFIELDERS respectively. Forget their position.

Since no one is mentioning it because everyone is from LA or NY (I'm a Met fan), Brendan Ryan was actually the biggest snub in all this.

rkelly7
10-30-2012, 11:16 PM
Brendan Ryan, David Wright, and Mike Trout are all the biggest snubs this year.

Brendan Ryan and David Wright had the highest UZR/150 of ALL INFIELDERS respectively. Forget their position.

Since no one is mentioning it because everyone is from LA or NY (I'm a Met fan), Brendan Ryan was actually the biggest snub in all this.

I see your point, but UZR isn;t everything. JJ Hardy is deserving as well. Brendan Ryan is great as well, but Ryan is not a snub for not winning it.

YoungStuna
10-30-2012, 11:17 PM
Who is your choice for AL 3B?


Moustakas.

Yep.

More-Than-Most
10-30-2012, 11:18 PM
Seeing how trout did not win a gold glove clearly shows he has 0 shot at the mvp.

YoungStuna
10-30-2012, 11:18 PM
Brendan Ryan, David Wright, and Mike Trout are all the biggest snubs this year.

Brendan Ryan and David Wright had the highest UZR/150 of ALL INFIELDERS respectively. Forget their position.

Since no one is mentioning it because everyone is from LA or NY (I'm a Met fan), Brendan Ryan was actually the biggest snub in all this.

Ryan is not a snub. Wright, Trout, and Bourn are the biggest snubs.

DerekRE_3
10-30-2012, 11:18 PM
Don't you worry Brandon Crawford. Your time will come.

Driven
10-30-2012, 11:18 PM
Ryan had a better year defensively than Hardy, but I'm not going to lose sleep over Hardy winning it.

You're at least comparing great to great.

YoungStuna
10-30-2012, 11:18 PM
Seeing how trout did not win a gold glove clearly shows he has 0 shot at the mvp.

Yep :(

At least he'll win ROY... Maybe. Who ****ing knows anymore???

floater
10-30-2012, 11:21 PM
Oh God I'm ready to keel over reading this thread. We have forum posters declaring their superiority and denouncing these MLB managers and General Managers.

"B-b-b-but our sabermetrics told us Trout is the best!!1!"

I don't think it's necessary to say who the managers got "wrong." I think what we should all do is analyze who WE got wrong.


lol, this guy

More-Than-Most
10-30-2012, 11:23 PM
No Lie I was waiting for Cabby it win 1 because of his offensive output

albo23
10-30-2012, 11:24 PM
lol, this guy

lol @ you for thinking your sabermetrics take precedence over an MLB manager or GM's decision. They haven't dedicated their entire life toward this sports or anything. :facepalm:

YoungStuna
10-30-2012, 11:25 PM
The good old-fashioned eye test is not always right. But even my ****ing eyes can tell me Adam Jones is not the best defensive CF in the AL.

Greedy22
10-30-2012, 11:26 PM
Jimmy Rollins, seriously?....

Mell413
10-30-2012, 11:26 PM
Headley :clap:

More-Than-Most
10-30-2012, 11:33 PM
Jimmy Rollins, seriously?....

He is not even close to what anyone should be complaining about when you look at some of the other names.

Zander 77
10-30-2012, 11:35 PM
The good old-fashioned eye test is not always right. But even my ****ing eyes can tell me Adam Jones is not the best defensive CF in the AL.

He's not even second best in the AL.

Imo, this year was basically 1a.)Trout, and 1b.) Jackson.

Mell413
10-30-2012, 11:36 PM
I actually thought Soriano should have gotten it in LF, but I won't complain too much about Cargo

AsfanSince99
10-30-2012, 11:38 PM
Given the overall season he had, I would have thought he'd be on more voters radars.

So based on the eye test and defensive metrics Trout should have won. :confused: WTF happened??

yfern328
10-30-2012, 11:43 PM
I see your point, but UZR isn;t everything. JJ Hardy is deserving as well. Brendan Ryan is great as well, but Ryan is not a snub for not winning it.

I also see your point. But that's like saying OPS isn't a good measure of a hitter's abilities. UZR/150 is arguably the best stat we have regarding defense. Considering that it is virtually the only stat out there worth looking at, I'd say it's pretty much close to everything.

YoungStuna
10-30-2012, 11:43 PM
He's not even second best in the AL.

Imo, this year was basically 1a.)Trout, and 1b.) Jackson.

More like:

1) Trout
2) Trout
3) Span
4) Jackson

8) Jones

YoungStuna
10-30-2012, 11:44 PM
I also see your point. But that's like saying OPS isn't a good measure of a hitter's abilities. UZR/150 is arguably the best stat we have regarding defense.

UZR is the best metric, UZR/150 is not.

DRS is a solid metric that should be used together.

metswon69
10-30-2012, 11:51 PM
UZR is the best metric, UZR/150 is not.

DRS is a solid metric that should be used together.

This...

metswon69
10-30-2012, 11:52 PM
The voting sucks.

Sometimes i wonder if these voters are even watching the same games as we are.

ChrisSabo17
10-30-2012, 11:52 PM
Barney over BP! Haha Barney has as much range as the damn purple dinosour. BP gets to balls Barney can only dream about getting to. This is a joke of a award. I didn't point out the other obvious mistakes that everyone else has chimed in on but totally agree.

Kings Analyst
10-30-2012, 11:53 PM
Reddick got a Gold Glove therefore no complaints from me though Trout did get robbed.

giants73756
10-31-2012, 12:02 AM
Barney over BP! Haha Barney has as much range as the damn purple dinosour. BP gets to balls Barney can only dream about getting to. This is a joke of a award. I didn't point out the other obvious mistakes that everyone else has chimed in on but totally agree.

Actually, Barney absolutely destroyed every other second baseman in fielding this year. Phillips was 2nd best, but my god was he not close to Barney at all.

BKdoubleStacker
10-31-2012, 12:08 AM
Trout getting a taste of his own medicine

he got robbed

Buckwheat
10-31-2012, 12:11 AM
Barney over BP! Haha Barney has as much range as the damn purple dinosour. BP gets to balls Barney can only dream about getting to. This is a joke of a award. I didn't point out the other obvious mistakes that everyone else has chimed in on but totally agree.

Please do us all a favor and never watch baseball again.

AsfanSince99
10-31-2012, 12:11 AM
Yeah it's too bad Trout didn't get one, I think he deserved it over Aiden Jones.

rkelly7
10-31-2012, 12:22 AM
More like:

1) Trout
2) Trout
3) Span
4) Jackson

8) Jones

haha i bet jones gets more mvp votes than trout too! congrats miggy, what a year

northsider
10-31-2012, 12:30 AM
Barney over BP! Haha Barney has as much range as the damn purple dinosour. BP gets to balls Barney can only dream about getting to. This is a joke of a award. I didn't point out the other obvious mistakes that everyone else has chimed in on but totally agree.

LMAO Barney not only took this award but, ran so far away with it he was one of the easiest picks in the entire GG selection process.

GA16Angels
10-31-2012, 12:56 AM
Adam Jones UZR: -6.7

Mike Trout UZR: 10.6

Adam Jones dWAR: -1.3

Mike Trout dWAR: 2.2

It's like they're trying to pull some ****ing joke or something. Adam Jones wasn't even a top 5 center fielder this year. Complete ********.

stupidmop
10-31-2012, 01:00 AM
The Golden Glove award is such nonsense. David Wright, Mike Trout . . . robbed.

Raidersfan93
10-31-2012, 01:04 AM
Trout getting a taste of his own medicine

he got robbed

Haha, but seriously, he was robbed. Congrats to Reddick

GA16Angels
10-31-2012, 01:08 AM
If the people who vote for the MVP put as much stock into fielding stats as the coaches who vote for gold glove do, Cabrera will easily win and Jeter will take second.

flea
10-31-2012, 01:09 AM
LaRoche seemingly got the award because they figured someone on that Nationals team had to get one. He's a fine defender but he missed part of the season and frankly just isn't as good as Votto or Freeman. If anyone on that Nationals team should have gotten a Gold Glove it should have been Espinosa, but Barney is a fine choice.

The other snubs are pretty well covered in this thread, though I probably would have gone Jackson/Reddick/Gordon and left off Trout as well. Smaller sample size, missed part of the season, and while we know he's a plus defender it's tough to just say he's automatically better than top defenders without any evidence just because he can hit and will probably win the MVP.

Eg714
10-31-2012, 03:05 AM
Wow. How did Adam Jones get a Gold Glove over Trout? Might as well give jones the silver slugger award to. Poor Trout, will be lucky to get the rookie of the year.

Wonder how close some of the votes were? David wright should of also got a GG. What a joke of an award.

jonnydanger1
10-31-2012, 03:11 AM
Was Angle Pagan even close? Because I thought he was pretty solid at center field.

Halladay
10-31-2012, 04:26 AM
Year after year I still don't understand why fans don't get that these awards are ridiculous. Derek Jeter has more gold gloves than all but 4 shortstops all time. ALL TIME. They're based on offense and usually a few highlight reel catches the player makes over the season. The award is a joke a good chunk of the time.

giants73756
10-31-2012, 04:59 AM
There are still some bad choices, but this year seems to be a huge improvement over previous years in the amount of awards given to guys who truly deserve the award.

natepro
10-31-2012, 07:50 AM
Year after year I still don't understand why fans don't get that these awards are ridiculous. Derek Jeter has more gold gloves than all but 4 shortstops all time. ALL TIME. They're based on offense and usually a few highlight reel catches the player makes over the season. The award is a joke a good chunk of the time.

Yeah... maybe he just needed a highlight reel catch or two.

Or four. (http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=25331661&c_id=mlb)

hoggin88
10-31-2012, 08:39 AM
Oh God I'm ready to keel over reading this thread. We have forum posters declaring their superiority and denouncing these MLB managers and General Managers.

"B-b-b-but our sabermetrics told us Trout is the best!!1!"

I don't think it's necessary to say who the managers got "wrong." I think what we should all do is analyze who WE got wrong.

Any meathead sports fan can tell Trout is special on defense. No need to get all worked up over sabermetrics.

jej
10-31-2012, 09:16 AM
This is a joke. Hardy over Ryan? Really? This is a hitting award at this point. Total BS.
Ryan was the best defensive player in the league.

jej
10-31-2012, 09:20 AM
Ryan is not a snub. Wright, Trout, and Bourn are the biggest snubs.

The best defensive player in the league is not a snub? He was robbed.

ThunderRoad75
10-31-2012, 09:23 AM
Crawford got robbed at ss

Nomar
10-31-2012, 09:27 AM
Jones, McCutchen, and CarGo especially did not deserve a gold glove. What a joke this award is.

beldugo
10-31-2012, 09:32 AM
Don't you worry Brandon Crawford. Your time will come.

Sadly for him Andrelton Simmons will win the next 10 GG :D

beldugo
10-31-2012, 09:39 AM
i'm shocked Bourn didn't win the award.

mike44
10-31-2012, 09:50 AM
wow no Bourn?

Halladay
10-31-2012, 09:55 AM
Yeah... maybe he just needed a highlight reel catch or two.

Or four. (http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=25331661&c_id=mlb)

Give that man a gold glove. His offensive numbers were good right?

burgh_fan66
10-31-2012, 10:36 AM
I can't believe McCutchen won a gold glove. There is a large fraction of the Pirates fan base who doesn't even believe he is the best defensive center fielder on the team and should be moved to LF.

Also Jimmy Rollins won a gold glove? I figured SS was a race between Brandon Crawford and Clint Barmes.

natepro
10-31-2012, 10:50 AM
Give that man a gold glove. His offensive numbers were good right?

Offense on par with Miguel Cabrera, and defense out the ***.


Yeah, I can see why they didn't pick him.

Halladay
10-31-2012, 11:11 AM
Offense on par with Miguel Cabrera, and defense out the ***.


Yeah, I can see why they didn't pick him.

Only on par with Cabrera? not good enough. You have to have at least a 5.7 on the Jgrit(Jeter grit scale) scale to win a GG.

Pinstripe pride
10-31-2012, 11:22 AM
how the **** did trout not get one?

rapjuicer06
10-31-2012, 11:47 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XA4mO1tIG8U

for those saying Ryan isn't a snub, you are sadly mistaken. Best defensive SS in the game.

And Trout not winning is disgusting. Had an absolutely amazingly awesome season, not just for a Rookie, but for anyone and he's only going to get ROY award for it. Total BS.

thawv
10-31-2012, 12:04 PM
Barney over BP! Haha Barney has as much range as the damn purple dinosour. BP gets to balls Barney can only dream about getting to. This is a joke of a award. I didn't point out the other obvious mistakes that everyone else has chimed in on but totally agree.

Barney winning was probably the easiest decision of all in both leagues. He should have won unanimously.

He led ALL 2nd baseman in UZR, DRS, Fld % and 141 game error less streak.

This one was a no brainer.

jwn0303
10-31-2012, 12:22 PM
I actually thought Soriano should have gotten it in LF, but I won't complain too much about Cargo

Why won't you complain too much about CarGo? He is a horrid left fielder. Just flat out awful. McCutchen winning is also a joke, but that has been discussed already. Brandon Crawford should have probably won as well. Haven't looked much at the AL side yet, but those were my three biggest concern on the NL side.

natepro
10-31-2012, 12:43 PM
Barney winning was probably the easiest decision of all in both leagues. He should have won unanimously.

He led ALL 2nd baseman in UZR, DRS, Fld % and 141 game error less streak.

This one was a no brainer.

Trout and Ryan should have been the easiest decisions.

Jeffy25
10-31-2012, 01:35 PM
What the **** is Adam Jones winning a gold glove for?

He is the only laughable choice, the rest are all at least top 3 defensively at their positions in their league, so no OMG what a bad choice to pick Jeter type of selections.

Just Jones.

EDIT: McCutchen wasn't a great choice in the NL, but he isn't a horrible choice. Bourn deserved it.

Jeffy25
10-31-2012, 02:01 PM
5 consecutive for Molina though is great

RTL
10-31-2012, 02:14 PM
Glad Barney got this much deserved award

thawv
10-31-2012, 03:27 PM
Trout and Ryan should have been the easiest decisions.

Clearly they both should have won. Especially Ryan! But as far as leading in just about every observed defensive stat, Barney's numbers were by far, a greater gap than any other position.

Driven
10-31-2012, 03:40 PM
The thing that doesnt make sense about jones winning it is that he wasnt the most hyped or the best offensive player. Hes not good defensively statistically or with the eye test. He doesnt make spectular catches. I can see people being able to make an argument about most defensive players, right or wrong, because theres something there that looks good. But across the board jones is subpar besides his throwing arm.

There are guys who look goodbbut with bad stats. And visa versa. And guys who outplay their stats and visa versa. But jones is not good anywhere you judge him

Rivera
10-31-2012, 03:46 PM
LOL at adam jones especially over trout :laugh:

and i think this list is flawed because derek jeter isnt on this list and he almost always wins the GG

Charmqn
10-31-2012, 04:07 PM
I already believe the O's will have good amount of gold gloves next season: jj hardy, wieters, machado, and see contenders in Reynolds at 1st and Markakis.

Great to see them recognize Hardy for his defensive work. He really was the best defensive SS in the AL.

Wieters and Molina are the two best catchers in the mLB.

BKdoubleStacker
10-31-2012, 04:12 PM
I already believe the O's will have good amount of gold gloves next season: jj hardy, wieters, machado, and see contenders in Reynolds at 1st and Markakis.

Great to see them recognize Hardy for his defensive work. He really was the best defensive SS in the AL.

Wieters and Molina are the two best catchers in the mLB.

No

Give me Mauer and Posey over wieters

natepro
10-31-2012, 04:12 PM
Great to see them recognize Hardy for his defensive work. He really was the best defensive SS in the AL.

The Mariners aren't in the AL? :confused:

ATL#22
10-31-2012, 04:47 PM
Don't you worry Brandon Crawford. Your time will come.

Hmmm maybe not. Simmons is better

thawv
10-31-2012, 06:10 PM
I was just checking this out about Adam Jones. He led ALL CF'ers in errors with 8. He had a UZR of, -6.7. His DRS number was, -16. Without the "eye test", this adds up to being maybe the worst CF'er in the league. And the eye test can't even remotely offset his statical numbers. Wow!! Honestly, how can he have even been a candidate?

TOJAYS
10-31-2012, 06:21 PM
lol at trout not being the clear winner, i think the managers picked jones only cause the team made the post season..cause there isnt a better reason

northsider
10-31-2012, 06:24 PM
Trout and Ryan should have been the easiest decisions.

They got snubbed but, neither were an easier pick then Barney.

YoungStuna
10-31-2012, 06:31 PM
The best defensive player in the league is not a snub? He was robbed.

Hardy is a great defender at SS too, though I agree Ryan is better. But it's not like Jeter winning over Ryan. Hardy is a solid choice.

So yeah, again Trout, Wright, and Bourn were the biggest snubs.

YoungStuna
10-31-2012, 06:33 PM
Just look at how ****ing nice Wright was defensively this year:

http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=24678947&c_id=mlb&topic_id=vtp_blackberry
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=24956029&c_id=mlb
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=24131891&c_id=mlb
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=24095961&c_id=mlb
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=24065325&c_id=mlb
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=23277849&c_id=mlb

There are so many more plays of great defense.

MetsFanatic19
10-31-2012, 07:18 PM
People are stupid.

MetsFanatic19
10-31-2012, 07:19 PM
Just look at how ****ing nice Wright was defensively this year:

http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=24678947&c_id=mlb&topic_id=vtp_blackberry
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=24956029&c_id=mlb
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=24131891&c_id=mlb
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=24095961&c_id=mlb
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=24065325&c_id=mlb
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=23277849&c_id=mlb

There are so many more plays of great defense.

The bare hand submarine throw is his bread and butter. Nobody does it better than Mr. Wright.

giants73756
10-31-2012, 07:54 PM
Sadly for him Andrelton Simmons will win the next 10 GG :D


Hmmm maybe not. Simmons is better

Simmons is probably better, but it's close. Crawford is more likely to win at least next year because he got the opportunity to showcase his skills in the World Series. Gold gloves have always been a popularity contest. Simmons isn't well-known enough yet.

Fly
10-31-2012, 07:57 PM
Simmons isn't well-known enough yet.

People will see him on ESPN Top 10 Plays every day of the week.

Bravo95
10-31-2012, 08:20 PM
Simmons already won NL rookie of the month once before he got hurt, and if the Braves are solid again in 2012, he'll have the same or more visibility. But people already have a good idea of what he brings.

http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/26348/braves-rookie-simmons-already-elite-ss

Braves rookie Simmons already elite SS

Youíve got to be a pretty good defender to win defensive player of the month honors over a guy who made eight Web Gems this month and another who made several terrific plays and arguably the best catch of the season a few days ago.

But when our panel voted on Juneís pick for this award, Atlanta Braves rookie shortstop Andrelton Simmons handily beat out Reds second baseman Brandon Phillips and Angels center fielder Mike Trout. Simmons received eight of 11 first-place votes. Phillips, who leads the majors in Web Gems, got two first-place votes. Trout edged Phillips for second place in the voting.

...

"Excellent reads, footwork, instincts, controlled aggression, and a quick compact arm. He made all the plays for me -- to the left, to the right, on the backhand, in the hole, topped. Heís an excellent athlete with great body control."
--An NL scout who saw Simmons four times this month

"For someone as young as he is, and who has played the position as little as he has -- he was a pitcher -- itís extremely impressive to be as good as he is. In my mind, heís only going to get better."
--Another NL scout

"The early returns are that heís an elite defender. He can make plays that few others can. He also has that 'I want it hit to me when it counts' thing going on."
--ESPN analyst Aaron Boone

LakersA's49ers
10-31-2012, 08:37 PM
glad my boy spider reddick, piederman won the AL Gold Glove for RF. Much deserved big man

jej
10-31-2012, 09:26 PM
Hardy is a great defender at SS too, though I agree Ryan is better. But it's not like Jeter winning over Ryan. Hardy is a solid choice.

So yeah, again Trout, Wright, and Bourn were the biggest snubs.

I still think Ryan was snubbed just as much. Nevermind who was behind him, he was one of, of not the best defensive player in baseball.

I am no longer going to pay attention to these awards if they are going to be off like this

YoungStuna
10-31-2012, 10:06 PM
Simmons already won NL rookie of the month once before he got hurt, and if the Braves are solid again in 2012, he'll have the same or more visibility. But people already have a good idea of what he brings.

http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/26348/braves-rookie-simmons-already-elite-ss

He's a monster, I love the way he plays SS. I still think Ryan might be better though because he just covers an insane amount of ground.

YoungStuna
10-31-2012, 10:07 PM
I still think Ryan was snubbed just as much. Nevermind who was behind him, he was one of, of not the best defensive player in baseball.

I am no longer going to pay attention to these awards if they are going to be off like this

At least Hardy was close. No one was really close for Trout, Wright, and Bourn.

ciaban
10-31-2012, 11:49 PM
I'm surprised Miguel Cabrera didn't win, did you see how well he hit this year!

long ball
11-01-2012, 08:58 AM
If your only argument is uzr, you have no argument.

natepro
11-01-2012, 11:41 AM
If your only argument is uzr, you have no argument.

Then I guess we should all be happy that it isn't, no?

jej
11-01-2012, 12:17 PM
There really isn't much else. So even tho defensive stats can suck at times, it's all we have that's somewhat fair. At least it sucks equally for everyone. If one guy is +20 and another is -6, I'm pretty damn confident that the +20 was better.

ManningToTyree
11-07-2012, 02:24 PM
No wright or trout :facepalm:

leftymo
11-08-2012, 01:15 PM
Brandon Crawford was surprisingly bad in the first half of the year, but when it mattered I think the entire nation saw his glove in the world series...

He's going to win a GG, and probably more than just one...

Daaaarryyl
11-09-2012, 02:40 AM
I don't think it's necessary to say who the managers got "wrong." I think what we should all do is analyze who WE got wrong.


I agree, but it is somewhat humbling when a fan is way off on their prediction for awards like the Gold Glove.


I'll never forget when Rafael Palmiero won it years ago when I didn't even consider him. I was embarrased at how off I was because I didn't even know you didn't have to play the field in order to be a gold glove candidate. You're right though as managers saw things in Palmiero with their own two eyes that year that I didn't when I was watching his at bats as the designated hitter....

IBleedPurple
11-10-2012, 11:01 PM
Why won't you complain too much about CarGo? He is a horrid left fielder. Just flat out awful.

Horrid/Awful might be stretching it a little....in fact, more than a little.

He was not really GG worthy, but was not terrible by any means. He was great in 2011 and got snubbed, and this year he was average and got the GG.

Ah, the nuances of baseball voting...a crock as usual.