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Hawkeye15
10-29-2012, 08:58 PM
http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/8571019/amare-stoudemire-new-york-knicks-likely-six-weeks-re-injuring-knee-sources-say


New York Knicks forward Amar'e Stoudemire will miss at least the first six weeks of the season after re-injuring his surgically repaired left knee, according to league sources.

JordansBulls
10-29-2012, 08:59 PM
If Melo keeps that team at the top of the East you will be seeing his name as the frontrunner for MVP.

BALLER R
10-29-2012, 09:03 PM
Does melo play better when amare is not in the lineup. Wheres the stats guys on here get to work on that.

Hawkeye15
10-29-2012, 09:05 PM
yes, Melo will be better with Amare out, but Melo is not LeBron, who can carry a team. Hopefully Woodson plays Melo at the 4 and they move forward.

John Walls Era
10-29-2012, 09:09 PM
Melo gets his shot at another insanity in NY. But doubt it'll be as successful.

Ebbs
10-29-2012, 09:09 PM
No one saw this coming. . . Wait, yep everybody did.

I think Knicks are better off.

Felton/Kidd - Shump/JR - Brewer/Novak - Melo/Sheed - Tyson/Camby/Kurt

Raidaz4Life
10-29-2012, 09:12 PM
No one saw this coming. . . Wait, yep everybody did.

I think Knicks are better off.

Felton/Kidd - Shump/JR - Brewer/Novak - Melo/Sheed - Tyson/Camby/Kurt

Minus Melo and JR, how is that team going to put points on the board? :confused:

Knicks21
10-29-2012, 09:12 PM
If we play well, his name will pop up in trade rumors. If we do bad, his name will still pop up in trade rumors.

JordansBulls
10-29-2012, 09:12 PM
yes, Melo will be better with Amare out, but Melo is not LeBron, who can carry a team. Hopefully Woodson plays Melo at the 4 and they move forward.

Melo can carry a team as well as the man, what are you talking about? It's not like Melo has anyone who is a MVP candidate by his side who won a title as the hands down best player on his team.

Ebbs
10-29-2012, 09:15 PM
Minus Melo and JR, how is that team going to put points on the board? :confused:

felton, novak and tyson

mightybosstone
10-29-2012, 09:20 PM
No one saw this coming. . . Wait, yep everybody did.

I think Knicks are better off.

Felton/Kidd - Shump/JR - Brewer/Novak - Melo/Sheed - Tyson/Camby/Kurt

This.

I've said all offseason long that the Knicks' kryptonite would be an injury and that there wasn't a chance in hell that Stoudemire played 70 games this year. At this point, I'd be shocked if he plays 60. The fact that they can never stay healthy will kill the Knicks seed going into the playoffs, and if they have to be a 6-8 seed, they probably won't make it out of the first round.

More-Than-Most
10-29-2012, 09:24 PM
shocking

Dade County
10-29-2012, 09:26 PM
Some Knick fans will say so what, Melo plays better with out him; others will say, wait until we get Stat back :shrug:

I picked the Knicks to make it to the ECF, but Ny just has bad luck. If Ny could just give Stat away for some pics and maybe 1 young talented player, they should just do it.

You never know, Howard Might Want Ny and then their front office could try to pull of a 3 to 4 team trade... Send Chandler somewhere and they get Cp3.

The Only Player lineup I've ever thought that would give the HEAT a real problem is.

Pg Cp3
sg ?
SF Melo
Pf ?
C Howard

Ny should try to aim for this... The team they have right now is very very good, but if you have been watching this rigged league long enough, you know the out come.

The only way to offset this is a new media darling, (Ny has the biggest media); if you bring these 3 players together, then I feel that will offset the riggedness.

So in short, Ny will be the, 1990's, Knicks... and the 2000's Sacramento, if they don't change the higher ups minds on the matter.

NBA = Entertainment

B'sCeltsPatsSox
10-29-2012, 09:28 PM
Some Knick fans will say so what, Melo plays better with out him; others will say, wait until we get Stat back :shrug:

I picked the Knicks to make it to the ECF, but Ny just has bad luck. If Ny could just give Stat away for some pics and maybe 1 young talented player, they should just do it.

You never know, Howard Might Want Ny and then their front office could try to pull of a 3 to 4 team trade... Send Chandler somewhere and they get Cp3.

The Only Player lineup I've ever thought that would give the HEAT a real problem is.

Pg Cp3
sg ?
SF Melo
Pf ?
C Howard

Ny should try to aim for this... The team they have right now is very very good, but if you have been watching this rigged league long enough, you know the out come.

The only way to offset this is a new media darling, (Ny has the biggest media); if you bring these 3 players together, then I feel that will offset the riggedness.

So in short, Ny will be the 2000's Sacramento if they don't change the higher ups minds on the matter.

NBA = Entertainment

Problem with those is that...

A. No one is going to trade picks and good young players for Stat

and

B. There's no way possible that the Knicks can get CP3 or Dwight let alone both.

mngopher35
10-29-2012, 09:30 PM
Melo can carry a team as well as the man, what are you talking about? It's not like Melo has anyone who is a MVP candidate by his side who won a title as the hands down best player on his team.

You cant be serious? Melo is not at the same level as Lebron when it comes to carrying a team. Lebron hasnt always played for the HEAT, he did carry a Cavs team (with horrible support) to the finals. Melo's teams tend to have more talent (until lebron went to miami) and yet never make it very far in the playoffs. Granted Melo was in the west but there is absolutely no evidence that Melo can carry a team like that as well as Lebron could...

mngopher35
10-29-2012, 09:34 PM
Back on topic. I do think Melo can carry the team enough for the first month or so, I dont see this being huge. Knicks should still be fine to make the playoffs and it may even help them as it could get Melo on a roll being the only real offensive threat to start.

seikou8
10-29-2012, 09:36 PM
we will be fine at least i hope our defense will be better and we play melo at the 4 more

Dade County
10-29-2012, 09:37 PM
Problem with those is that...

A. No one is going to trade picks and good young players for Stat

and

B. There's no way possible that the Knicks can get CP3 or Dwight let alone both.

I know it's hard to believe, but it can happen.

And I am sure they could give Stat away to one of the lower quality teams, and they would give the Knicks a couple of picks and 1 young player back.

It can Happen, this is a rigged league after all.

B'sCeltsPatsSox
10-29-2012, 09:40 PM
I know it's hard to believe, but it can happen.

And I am sure they could give Stat away to one of the lower quality teams, and they would give the Knicks a couple of picks and 1 young player back.

It can Happen, this is a rigged league after all.

Because it makes sense to trade lottery draft picks for a players that's grossly over payed, has been frequently injured as of late and is on the decline. If a team was willing to do that trade Amar'e would've been traded by now.

mightybosstone
10-29-2012, 09:48 PM
I know it's hard to believe, but it can happen.

And I am sure they could give Stat away to one of the lower quality teams, and they would give the Knicks a couple of picks and 1 young player back.

It can Happen, this is a rigged league after all.

Amare is untradeable right now, and this latest injury proves why. His contract is among the worst in the NBA, he's on serious decline as a player, he plays no defense whatsoever at a position where defense is at a premium and he has three years before his contract is off the books.

Not only would no front office trade for him, but no front office would give the Knicks any piece of legitimate value for him. Not even MJ is an awful enough GM to give a first round pick for Amare's corpse.

In a year or two, he might get dealt for something, because there are fewer years and less money on the contract. But right now, he's about as untouchable as it gets.

KnickaBocka.44
10-29-2012, 09:58 PM
Amare is untradeable right now, and this latest injury proves why. His contract is among the worst in the NBA, he's on serious decline as a player, he plays no defense whatsoever at a position where defense is at a premium and he has three years before his contract is off the books.

Not only would no front office trade for him, but no front office would give the Knicks any piece of legitimate value for him. Not even MJ is an awful enough GM to give a first round pick for Amare's corpse.

In a year or two, he might get dealt for something, because there are fewer years and less money on the contract. But right now, he's about as untouchable as it gets.

Everything is true but the bold. I'm sick of this serious decline garbage. He had one bad year in which he was hurt and there was a lockout and all of a sudden he's on a serious decline. yeah, okay

MELO 15
10-29-2012, 09:59 PM
Minus Melo and JR, how is that team going to put points on the board? :confused:

Felton, sheed, copeland. And when shump comes back. And novak can avg 10 a game just off of open looks

B'sCeltsPatsSox
10-29-2012, 10:00 PM
Everything is true but the bold. I'm sick of this serious decline garbage. He had one bad year in which he was hurt and there was a lockout and all of a sudden he's on a serious decline. yeah, okay

He's gotten worse the past two seasons, he's on the decline.

Hawkeye15
10-29-2012, 10:01 PM
Melo can carry a team as well as the man, what are you talking about? It's not like Melo has anyone who is a MVP candidate by his side who won a title as the hands down best player on his team.

hahahaha, dude you are becoming so transparent.

Aleksandar
10-29-2012, 10:03 PM
Eh well, Knicks are probably better off without him anyway..

KnickaBocka.44
10-29-2012, 10:05 PM
He's gotten worse the past two seasons, he's on the decline.

Thats just not true. Year before last he was just fine, playing at MVP level for more than half the year before the Melo trade.

mightybosstone
10-29-2012, 10:06 PM
Everything is true but the bold. I'm sick of this serious decline garbage. He had one bad year in which he was hurt and there was a lockout and all of a sudden he's on a serious decline. yeah, okay

Sorry, but it's actually been two years that he's been a shell of his former self. Since coming to New York, his efficiency has dropped significantly. His TS% was regularly above .600 and dropped to .565 in his first year in New York and his WS/48 was above .180 in four of his previous five seasons but dropped to .134 in New York. His TRB% and ORtg also took big hits.

Basically, they don't call it the Nash effect for nothing. With Nash, Stoudemire was one of the best offensive big men in the history of the NBA. Without him, Stoudemire is just a very good offensive big man who doesn't rebound well, doesn't play defense and misses a crapload of games over the course of an NBA season.

Byronicle
10-29-2012, 10:07 PM
i got melo on my fantasy team :D

29$JerZ
10-29-2012, 10:07 PM
The only positions the Knicks could afford an injury were at PG and PF.
So this isn't a huge loss, this is going to be a trend until Amar'e is either traded (no chance) or his deal expires.

If we have any injuries to our SG's or Centers we are screwed.
Time for Melo to show he is a "superstar" because NY needs someone to lead them and as good as Chandler has been for us it can't be him.

KnickaBocka.44
10-29-2012, 10:08 PM
Sorry, but it's actually been two years that he's been a shell of his former self. Since coming to New York, his efficiency has dropped significantly. His TS% was regularly above .600 and dropped to .565 in his first year in New York and his WS/48 was above .180 in four of his previous five seasons but dropped to .134 in New York. His TRB% and ORtg also took big hits.

Basically, they don't call it the Nash effect for nothing. With Nash, Stoudemire was one of the best offensive big men in the history of the NBA. Without him, Stoudemire is just a very good offensive big man who doesn't rebound well, doesn't play defense and misses a crapload of games over the course of an NBA season.

If you want to call it the Nash effect, that's one thing, being on the decline is another.

Daunter
10-29-2012, 10:14 PM
Melo can definately carry a team just like he did last season on the last month of the regular season.

Is he as good as Lebron? No,no one is.Can he carry a team?Yes

eibbor
10-29-2012, 10:15 PM
If Melo keeps that team at the top of the East you will be seeing his name as the frontrunner for MVP.

Seriously?


They won't be close to the top and Melo won't be close to be in the running...

shep33
10-29-2012, 10:16 PM
This team is never going to build chemistry with all these set backs. Truly feel sorry for them. I think they'll be fine without Stat, but when he comes back the cycle starts again.

Woody needs to bring him off the bench. I know it sounds ridiculous for a guy making that much cash (not as ridiculous as punching glass), but it just needs to happen.

mightybosstone
10-29-2012, 10:24 PM
If you want to call it the Nash effect, that's one thing, being on the decline is another.

Does it make a difference? Bottom line, the guy hasn't been the same player since coming to New York and he's gotten progressively worse the last two seasons. As he continues to age, his knees and his skill are only going to get worse. He's not all of a sudden going to wake up and be an elite player again. That is the very definition of "on the decline." If you keep getting worse and will never get better, you are quite literally "on the decline."

KnickaBocka.44
10-29-2012, 10:33 PM
Does it make a difference? Bottom line, the guy hasn't been the same player since coming to New York and he's gotten progressively worse the last two seasons. As he continues to age, his knees and his skill are only going to get worse. He's not all of a sudden going to wake up and be an elite player again. That is the very definition of "on the decline." If you keep getting worse and will never get better, you are quite literally "on the decline."

It does actually. If you play with the best pure pg in the league and then dont have him anymore, of course your numbers drop. This year was/is going to be big for Amare once he is healthy because I, and many others, truly believe that last year was an aberration.

Dade County
10-29-2012, 10:37 PM
Because it makes sense to trade lottery draft picks for a players that's grossly over payed, has been frequently injured as of late and is on the decline. If a team was willing to do that trade Amar'e would've been traded by now.

I'm sorry I stop reading after that... When I say trade Stat, I am not saying that they will get back a lottery type player... I just said get some young talent and a couple of picks... It's really to dump salary.

Now I can finish reading your post... have a nice night.



Amare is untradeable right now, and this latest injury proves why. His contract is among the worst in the NBA, he's on serious decline as a player, he plays no defense whatsoever at a position where defense is at a premium and he has three years before his contract is off the books.

Not only would no front office trade for him, but no front office would give the Knicks any piece of legitimate value for him. Not even MJ is an awful enough GM to give a first round pick for Amare's corpse.

In a year or two, he might get dealt for something, because there are fewer years and less money on the contract. But right now, he's about as untouchable as it gets.

I am sure they can give him away, to clear cap.

B'sCeltsPatsSox
10-29-2012, 10:51 PM
I'm sorry I stop reading after that... When I say trade Stat, I am not saying that they will get back a lottery type player... I just said get some young talent and a couple of picks... It's really to dump salary.

Now I can finish reading your post... have a nice night.




I am sure they can give him away, to clear cap.

You said lower quality teams, which means teams that are in the lottery. No team is going to want to take a 60 million salary dump in this league.

Good night.

29$JerZ
10-29-2012, 10:58 PM
I'm sorry I stop reading after that... When I say trade Stat, I am not saying that they will get back a lottery type player... I just said get some young talent and a couple of picks... It's really to dump salary.

Now I can finish reading your post... have a nice night.




I am sure they can give him away, to clear cap.

http://hoopshype.com/salaries.htm

Bottom 5 teams in CAP
Houston - They aren't desperate for a PF, they have too many.
T-Wolves - They have Kevin Love. They would have to trade the majority of their team to match salaries.
Cavs - It would take Andy V, Luke Walton and Daniel Gibson. Not happening.
Indiana - They have David West. It would take West, Hill and Mahini. Not happening.
Sacramento - They have Cousins and just drafted Thomas Robinson. Only contracts to trade are Salmons, Thorton (not happening).

Amar'e has one of the worst contracts in the NBA. And Knicks won't find a situation like Brooklyn where they are so desperate for talent they will trade expirings for the worst contract in the NBA. Amar'e just has no place to go but NY.

kblo247
10-29-2012, 11:51 PM
Mark this **** down. Melo alone will keep NY with a top 4 record out East, and on the heels of the 3 seed

Lets not act like Melo actually had healthy bigs in Denver. Martin or Nene were always out at one time or another, and left him to carry the weight. And Melo always did carry the weight in the tougher conference to make the Nuggest always finish over 5000 for damn near 8 straight years after the same Nuggets had not had a winning season let alone made the playoffs for 7. Get that **** out of here with the Melo can't lead his team to win ****, the man deserves some ****ing credit, he ain't a bum, he ain't Joe Johnson, he ain't a fake franchise player or someone like Paul or Deron who depends on others to be good around him to win games he's got some dog in him like Kobe.

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Amare gets traded to one of Houston, Cleveland, or Toronto imo before the year ends

AKAYaReal
10-30-2012, 12:02 AM
As long as the Knicks can maintain a .500 or better record in this period of time, we will be in good shape.

Players like Felton, Smith and hopefully this kid Copeland can help on the scoring side. Our defense will really have to be our best weapon this season.

John Walls Era
10-30-2012, 12:11 AM
Melo can carry a team as well as the man, what are you talking about? It's not like Melo has anyone who is a MVP candidate by his side who won a title as the hands down best player on his team.

WTF is going on here. It was funny at first, but now hes trolling in every thread.

ClearSoulForce
10-30-2012, 12:14 AM
Carrying a team means winning in the playoffs as well, something Carmelo is VERY allergic too. Carrying a team isn't scoring 40 once in a playoff series and having borderline ****** games. I get so tired of the "Carmelo played like Jordan and got the Knicks a win vs Miami, that alone shows his greatness" ********. Players that carry teams are LeBron, Wade, Durant, Dirk, Paul, Howard, Kobe and maybe Rose.

And this is a huge loss for NY. Who else is gonna score outside of Melo who will take 25-30 shots?

Smith will score...... on 20 shots.

Kidd, Prigioni are both awful scorers while Felton is up in the air.

Chandler can't score. Don't expect the dinosaurs to score at all.

Amare is very overrated but this is a huge loss.

ClearSoulForce
10-30-2012, 12:15 AM
Mark this **** down. Melo alone will keep NY with a top 4 record out East, and on the heels of the 3 seed

Lets not act like Melo actually had healthy bigs in Denver. Martin or Nene were always out at one time or another, and left him to carry the weight. And Melo always did carry the weight in the tougher conference to make the Nuggest always finish over 5000 for damn near 8 straight years after the same Nuggets had not had a winning season let alone made the playoffs for 7. Get that **** out of here with the Melo can't lead his team to win ****, the man deserves some ****ing credit, he ain't a bum, he ain't Joe Johnson, he ain't a fake franchise player or someone like Paul or Deron who depends on others to be good around him to win games he's got some dog in him like Kobe.

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Amare gets traded to one of Houston, Cleveland, or Toronto imo before the year ends

But Melo with Lin, Amare, Chandler, Smith, Shump, etc... barely made the playoffs....

Cal827
10-30-2012, 12:24 AM
Mark this **** down. Melo alone will keep NY with a top 4 record out East, and on the heels of the 3 seed

Lets not act like Melo actually had healthy bigs in Denver. Martin or Nene were always out at one time or another, and left him to carry the weight. And Melo always did carry the weight in the tougher conference to make the Nuggest always finish over 5000 for damn near 8 straight years after the same Nuggets had not had a winning season let alone made the playoffs for 7. Get that **** out of here with the Melo can't lead his team to win ****, the man deserves some ****ing credit, he ain't a bum, he ain't Joe Johnson, he ain't a fake franchise player or someone like Paul or Deron who depends on others to be good around him to win games he's got some dog in him like Kobe.

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Amare gets traded to one of Houston, Cleveland, or Toronto imo before the year ends

LOL Houston and Toronto have an assload of PFs and want cap space for their respective futures.

Cleveland didn't want Amar'e when he probably could have brought a title to the Cavs with Lebron and at his dominant period... why would they want to pay 20 million for a guy who unfortunately, appears to be on the decline and suffering another knee injury?

I feel bad for the guy. He's one of my favorite players, but I've got a bad feeling that this isn't the first knee injury he's going to have this year. :(

AddiX
10-30-2012, 12:28 AM
I'm happy amare is injured, that means for 6 weeks I don't have to hear about him.

People have a short memory here. I guess my fellow ny fans how many times last year we were yelling at the tv wondering WTF amare was doing.

He's becoming the fcking eddy curry of power forward. I'm not joking either, he's that bad IMO.

mightybosstone
10-30-2012, 12:32 AM
Amare gets traded to one of Houston, Cleveland, or Toronto imo before the year ends

Daryl Morey would not touch Amare's contract with a 10-foot pole. The very thought of him coming to Houston makes me throw up in my mouth a little bit.

sunsfan88
10-30-2012, 01:16 AM
Minus Melo and JR, how is that team going to put points on the board? :confused:

Minus Westbrook and Durant, how are the Thunder going to put points on the board?

kblo247
10-30-2012, 01:23 AM
But Melo with Lin, Amare, Chandler, Smith, Shump, etc... barely made the playoffs....

1. That year was condensed.
2. Dantoni didn't really fit with Melo
3. The east is weaker after you get past Miami, Boston, and Indy (Granger isn't right).

Melo can defiantly lead this team IMO. We can make fun of their age, but Kurt, Sheed, and Camby have pride and some level of competitiveness. I think them in a locker room with Kidd and Tyson will have the other members of that team ready and fired up.

I also think Melo is more than good enough. He did it in Denver, with a tougher conference, in a tougher division, and with constant injuries to his starting bigs. I think people are severely under selling the guy especially since he will have a regular and not condensed season, and unlike last year isn't coming out of the camp/preseason hurt

kblo247
10-30-2012, 01:26 AM
Carrying a team means winning in the playoffs as well, something Carmelo is VERY allergic too. Carrying a team isn't scoring 40 once in a playoff series and having borderline ****** games. I get so tired of the "Carmelo played like Jordan and got the Knicks a win vs Miami, that alone shows his greatness" ********. Players that carry teams are LeBron, Wade, Durant, Dirk, Paul, Howard, Kobe and maybe Rose.

And this is a huge loss for NY. Who else is gonna score outside of Melo who will take 25-30 shots?

Smith will score...... on 20 shots.

Kidd, Prigioni are both awful scorers while Felton is up in the air.

Chandler can't score. Don't expect the dinosaurs to score at all.

Amare is very overrated but this is a huge loss.

Wasn't like Melo didn't meet a Kobe who was still near his peak multiple playoffs or a Duncan/Manu duo who had much more in the tank. He got knocked off by the Spurs and Lakers out west, ain't no shame in that. It wasn't like he loston to Boston on a depleted team and with Amare basically useless or out and wasn't a Jeffries layin from actually stealing a game even then.

If you put the Nuggets and Cavs in different conferences during those years Melo could've been in the finals and LeBronm the won being swept or beat yearly in the postseason by Tim and Kobe led teams

JayW_1023
10-30-2012, 04:06 AM
I also think Melo is more than good enough. He did it in Denver, with a tougher conference, in a tougher division, and with constant injuries to his starting bigs. I think people are severely under selling the guy especially since he will have a regular and not condensed season, and unlike last year isn't coming out of the camp/preseason hurt

Aaaaaaannnnd. He lost in the first round almost every year.

He had plenty of times to show he is a winner. But just isn't.

Hope he proves me wrong though. For one, he is way more effective as PF. And he should realize this.

HowFit
10-30-2012, 04:34 AM
No one saw this coming. . . Wait, yep everybody did.

I think Knicks are better off.

Felton/Kidd - Shump/JR - Brewer/Novak - Melo/Sheed - Tyson/Camby/Kurt

I agree...

zB_#85
10-30-2012, 11:08 AM
how you feeling about that contract now New York. It was insane to pay that guy so much money...

Im_in_Mia_bish
10-30-2012, 11:10 AM
does not affect my fantasy team :) so happy cos i chose kris kardashian over him.

torocan
10-30-2012, 11:21 AM
how you feeling about that contract now New York. It was insane to pay that guy so much money...

I was never a fan of the contract. I did like STAT as a player. I just didn't like the idea of 5 years given his surgeries.

Too much money for too long on an UNINSURED contract.

I do feel bad for the guy. I honestly believe he thought he'd be good for the entire contract.

We'll see when he comes back, but I'm rooting for him (despite the little voice in my head screaming "Beware Phoenix... 3-4 years TOPS!").

JayW_1023
10-30-2012, 11:35 AM
It'll be interesting if Sheed starts.

Sixerlover
10-30-2012, 11:46 AM
Minus Westbrook and Durant, how are the Thunder going to put points on the board?

Kevin Martin, Eric Maynor are capable scorers and even Serge Ibaka averaged 10 the last 2 seasons. I know what you were trying to get at, but I don't think the Thunder qualify.

It's crazy how we're only a 1.5 seasons removed from Amare getting MVP chants and worshiped at the Garden. It seems like we only know him for the injuries, bad play and massive contract.

nycericanguy
10-30-2012, 11:49 AM
Kevin Martin, Eric Maynor, Serge Ibaka averaged 10 the last 2 seasons too. I know what you were trying to get at, but I don't think the Thunder qualify.

It's crazy how we're only a 1.5 seasons removed from Amare getting MVP chants and worshiped at the Garden. It seems like we only know him for the injuries, bad play and massive contract.

Chandler, Shump, Novak & Felton are all capable of 10+ppg.

Amare's situation is sad though, he keeps himself in great shape, its not from lack of trying.

WAYNEBO
10-30-2012, 04:31 PM
Folks, it's 6 weeks.... we don't watch real basketball until February anyways. Stop it with all this writing Stat off crap. YES, he is not the player from his PHX days; YES he is probrably the top 5 worst defender in the league. But he can score and still has plenty of morale-wrecking dunks to dish out. Yes I'm talking to you Mr. KG, Mr. Bosh & Heat center:_(insert name)___.

In case y'all forgot.... Boom Shackalacka!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iqc1MNA3GZ0

Let's enjoy the upcoming season. Living in La La Land w/ the LakeShow and Clips, and now my online feeds of Knicks games, I know I will.

xxplayerxx23
10-30-2012, 04:43 PM
I think we will be fine, we have some depth at PF

Rangers72
10-30-2012, 06:51 PM
I just love LOLing at how bad the Knicks are in terms of basketball and decision making. They ran Isaiah Thomas out of town which was well warranted but they keep making horrible personnel decision, such as Amare and Melo, who might be the most overrated player in the NBA.

Knicks21
10-30-2012, 07:02 PM
I just love LOLing at how bad the Knicks are in terms of basketball and decision making. They ran Isaiah Thomas out of town which was well warranted but they keep making horrible personnel decision, such as Amare and Melo, who might be the most overrated player in the NBA.

Yeah im LOLing too.....