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justinnum1
10-27-2012, 10:44 PM
woj
Oklahoma City has traded James Harden to the Houston Rockets, league sources tell Y! Sports.

The Rockets send Kevin Martin, Jeremy Lamb and future draft considerations to the Thunder for Harden, sources tell Y! Sports.

:speechless:

kdspurman
10-27-2012, 10:45 PM
Beat me to it... lol.

Can't believe it.

heyman321
10-27-2012, 10:45 PM
lmao

DoMeFavors
10-27-2012, 10:45 PM
Woj

ElFuturoDeESPN
10-27-2012, 10:45 PM
Whoa

alexander_37
10-27-2012, 10:45 PM
So beyond stoked.

chicagocubsfan
10-27-2012, 10:46 PM
Whoa huge trade.

looka09
10-27-2012, 10:46 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA 60s Oklahoma City has traded James Harden to
the Houston Rockets, league sources tell Y!
Sports.

h2r09
10-27-2012, 10:46 PM
wow. thats pretty unbelievable. they are going to regret giving ibaka the money over harden. he does not impact the game as much as harden.

Gators123
10-27-2012, 10:46 PM
Holy ****.

xnick5757
10-27-2012, 10:46 PM
terrible

Mr. Baller
10-27-2012, 10:46 PM
:speechless:

TO Rapz
10-27-2012, 10:46 PM
Wowowowoww

yaswaggin
10-27-2012, 10:46 PM
Wtf

xnick5757
10-27-2012, 10:46 PM
Awesome for houston

justinnum1
10-27-2012, 10:46 PM
morey finally got someone lol

JNoel
10-27-2012, 10:47 PM
Holy ****!

DoMeFavors
10-27-2012, 10:47 PM
Why wouldnt they wait untill trade deadline?

TO Rapz
10-27-2012, 10:47 PM
Colangelo should of gone after Harden. :sigh:

yaswaggin
10-27-2012, 10:47 PM
Shoulda traded him for Bradley beal

justinnum1
10-27-2012, 10:47 PM
lamb is going to be a stud too

B'sCeltsPatsSox
10-27-2012, 10:47 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA
The Rockets send Kevin Martin, Jeremy Lamb and future draft considerations to the Thunder for Harden, sources tell Y! Sports.


What a fail by the Thunder.

Rivera
10-27-2012, 10:47 PM
Nonoonononononnonononononononono wtf :cry:

phlp_bj
10-27-2012, 10:47 PM
James Harden as the number one option. Harden+Lin

TO Rapz
10-27-2012, 10:48 PM
Ross, Derozan, Davis probably would of netted Harden.

Lowry
Harden
?
Bargnani
Valanciunas

:drool:

But then we lose our wing depth with Ross and Dero.

justinnum1
10-27-2012, 10:48 PM
but for this year, okc is worse. not sure they are better than the clippers now...

Chacarron
10-27-2012, 10:48 PM
Nice job Houston.

justinnum1
10-27-2012, 10:49 PM
woj
As part of deal, Thunder will receive "significant" future draft picks from Houston, source tells Y! Sports.

prob a few firsts

Raps18-19 Champ
10-27-2012, 10:49 PM
Lolololololololol.

Mr. Baller
10-27-2012, 10:49 PM
Kevin Martin could excel in a 6th man type role though for sure

Vinylman
10-27-2012, 10:49 PM
As a Laker fan this is awesome news

yaswaggin
10-27-2012, 10:49 PM
What a great trade for houston

Sam is great at drafting, but sucks at trading

JNoel
10-27-2012, 10:49 PM
This starts to make sense, Martin is an expiring deal and considering he is injury prone and is starting to get older, he won't demand as much money as Harden would have. Also not to mention getting a prospect in Lamb and future picks, Martin will be as productive as Harden if healthy. Great trade.

heyman321
10-27-2012, 10:50 PM
Wooooow, why didnt' the Raptors go after him?? We could've gave them way more.

*Superman*
10-27-2012, 10:50 PM
NOOO! I need Harden on OKC for 2K!

LAKERMANIA
10-27-2012, 10:50 PM
Thank you Houston

yaswaggin
10-27-2012, 10:50 PM
OKC just traded away their champ hopes

Lakers> thunder now

KnicksorBust
10-27-2012, 10:50 PM
:laugh: How's Russ+Ibaka for Howard lookin now? IF confirmed, this is a disaster for the Thunder.

Btw Baller let's play NBA2K13.

justinnum1
10-27-2012, 10:50 PM
i actually kind of like it for both teams. okc has perry jones and maynor

TO Rapz
10-27-2012, 10:50 PM
Wooooow, why didnt' the Raptors go after him?? We could've gave them way more.

Exactly.

BKdoubleStacker
10-27-2012, 10:51 PM
what on earth.....

my fantasy season is now over, harden will not put up better numbers than last year

torontosports10
10-27-2012, 10:51 PM
Wow. Wish the Raps traded Derozen or Ross, Davis and pick for him

justinnum1
10-27-2012, 10:51 PM
damn, crazy trade!

xnick5757
10-27-2012, 10:51 PM
Rockets send:

Martin
Lamb
Draft Picks

Thunder send:

Harden
Aldridge
Hayward
Cook

Raps18-19 Champ
10-27-2012, 10:52 PM
Exactly.

Not really. No one on the Raptors at the wing position is productive enough to replace Harden on the Thunder.

justinnum1
10-27-2012, 10:52 PM
what on earth.....

my fantasy season is now over, harden will not put up better numbers than last year

yea, i took harden today too lol

Sandman
10-27-2012, 10:52 PM
wow they gave him away

STAT1
10-27-2012, 10:53 PM
We can expect to hear max extension with the Rockets any minute now.

JNoel
10-27-2012, 10:53 PM
damn, crazy trade!

Harden's starting to look good for your fantasy team Justin...

PocketKings
10-27-2012, 10:53 PM
:speechless:

yaswaggin
10-27-2012, 10:53 PM
All this because okc couldn't afford the luxury tax

Ironic

John Walls Era
10-27-2012, 10:53 PM
Colangelo should of gone after Harden. :sigh:

Why? Kyle Lowry is a legit PG who handles the ball most of the time.

justinnum1
10-27-2012, 10:53 PM
woj broke it first...guy is the best

Rivera
10-27-2012, 10:53 PM
Thank god jermey lamb aint no scrub and hes from uconn...kevin martin can give them a scoring punch of that bench and could excell on OKC

Houston is still probably a fringe playoff team nd the picks could be well worth it

So upset harden isnt with okc any more smh

kdspurman
10-27-2012, 10:53 PM
This is good news... :)

29$JerZ
10-27-2012, 10:54 PM
Jeremy Lamb is going to be a stud. I can't believe this. This popped out of nowhere.
So Houston will overpay for Lin/Harden/Asik

Ezio
10-27-2012, 10:54 PM
Dayum... Kind of a steal by Houson.

justinnum1
10-27-2012, 10:54 PM
Harden's starting to look good for your fantasy team Justin...

i hope so...not going to get as many easy looks in houston but should get the green light there.

BKdoubleStacker
10-27-2012, 10:54 PM
huge mistake by OKC IMO

TO Rapz
10-27-2012, 10:55 PM
Why? Kyle Lowry is a legit PG who handles the ball most of the time.

Similar to the role OKC used him. Harden could be a legit #1 option here though instead of being behind Durant and Westy on the depth chart. Harden and Lowry would be the 1 and 2 options. I'm sure Ross, one of our bigs and a future 1st or 2 would of worked. Or even Derozan.

justinnum1
10-27-2012, 10:55 PM
Jeremy Lamb is going to be a stud. I can't believe this. This popped out of nowhere.
So Houston will overpay for Lin/Harden/Asik

lin was a horrible deal, but i think harden and asik will be worth it.

popo85
10-27-2012, 10:55 PM
How's Lamb looking this preseason?

jrm2054
10-27-2012, 10:55 PM
Lin and harden is going be fun to watch

KnicksorBust
10-27-2012, 10:55 PM
I'm thrilled. Now all you clowns get to see how legit James Harden is.

justinnum1
10-27-2012, 10:56 PM
presti dont give a ****.

justinnum1
10-27-2012, 10:56 PM
How's Lamb looking this preseason?

legit

LTBaByyy
10-27-2012, 10:56 PM
Harden will probably cut the beard and not care anymore about basketball because houston is prob throwing max right away

yaswaggin
10-27-2012, 10:57 PM
Jeremy Lamb is going to be a stud. I can't believe this. This popped out of nowhere.
So Houston will overpay for Lin/Harden/Asik

lin was a horrible deal, but i think harden and asik will be worth it.

Lin will make them a lot of cash with the Asian market

PocketKings
10-27-2012, 10:57 PM
Houston has such a nice corp of youth.

justinnum1
10-27-2012, 10:57 PM
if harden doesnt extend with houston that would be hilarious

heyman321
10-27-2012, 10:57 PM
Damn Okc is so stupid to do this. Lakers winning west for sure easily now.

JOhnnyTHaJet
10-27-2012, 10:57 PM
Depending on the picks received I don't hate this for the Thunder. Lamb is going to be a very solid player and Kevin Martin isn't a scrub. Harden is the superior player but with the possibility of him leaving I wouldn't be disappointed if I were a Thunder fan.

JNoel
10-27-2012, 10:57 PM
Wow, Durant was just talking about how he wants Harden as a teammate for a long time. I wonder how he feels about the trade. Also Harden wanted to return, it was definitely the failed contract extension talks that was the cause of this trade.

Also I'm listening to Broussard on ESPN and I'm facepalming about what he's saying.

BKdoubleStacker
10-27-2012, 10:58 PM
I am trying to think what hardens numbers will look like

Sadds The Gr8
10-27-2012, 10:58 PM
Wtf?

Giraffes Rule
10-27-2012, 10:58 PM
Holy ****.

Knicks21
10-27-2012, 10:58 PM
I dont get this on houstons part, are they happy just being average?

You either got to suck in this league or be really good, they wont be either.

justinnum1
10-27-2012, 10:58 PM
nevermind..he will be a rfa

Dade County
10-27-2012, 10:58 PM
YES!!! The super team is NO MORE!!!

Houston is taking a gamble!

29$JerZ
10-27-2012, 10:58 PM
lin was a horrible deal, but i think harden and asik will be worth it.

Asik could very well end up as another Diop but they have nothing to lose.

I'm a bit confused as to what Morey is doing now.
You dump everything so you can rebuild and not get the 14th pick.
Then you give Lin/Asik crazy deals based on potential alone so more tanking.
Now you trade a lot of your future assets for Harden now.
I guess he is going in on next years FA class?
Very strange

Punk
10-27-2012, 10:59 PM
Wait, I fall asleep to wake up to this? :laugh2:

I can't believe it.

seikou8
10-27-2012, 10:59 PM
248 people lol :speechless:

yaswaggin
10-27-2012, 10:59 PM
nevermind..he will be a rfa

Max harden would have gotten was 4 years 55.2 mil through RFA if signed next July

They offered him 52 mil, obviously harden wants money over rings

Mr. Baller
10-27-2012, 11:00 PM
I actually like this for the Thunder...

s3antana5757
10-27-2012, 11:00 PM
Did OKC get the Raptors pick?

KB-Pau-DH2012
10-27-2012, 11:00 PM
Holy crap! WTF?!?! :speechless:

I DID NOT SEE THIS COMING! :speechless:

Vinylman
10-27-2012, 11:01 PM
YES!!! The super team is NO MORE!!!

Houston is taking a gamble!

why? He will still be an RFA with Houston at the end of the year...

Harden ****ed himself

justinnum1
10-27-2012, 11:01 PM
I actually like this for the Thunder...

i like it long term...not sure how it helps them this season tho unless lamb blows up. i do think pj3 will be a stud. and no one in the west has an answer for westbrook or durant.

JNoel
10-27-2012, 11:01 PM
I actually like this for the Thunder...

+1 I don't see why people are saying that this was a bad trade for the Thunder.

KnicksorBust
10-27-2012, 11:01 PM
Asik could very well end up as another Diop but they have nothing to lose.

I'm a bit confused as to what Morey is doing now.
You dump everything so you can rebuild and not get the 14th pick.
Then you give Lin/Asik crazy deals based on potential alone so more tanking.
Now you trade a lot of your future assets for Harden now.
I guess he is going in on next years FA class?
Very strange

Asik is Diop? :laugh:

justinnum1
10-27-2012, 11:01 PM
woj
Houston sends two 2013 first-round picks (from Dallas and Toronto) to Oklahoma CIty, source tells Y!

*Superman*
10-27-2012, 11:01 PM
I wonder if they informed him that if he didn't sign he would be traded.

b@llhog24
10-27-2012, 11:02 PM
Lmao. This shocked the **** outta me.

kswissdaf
10-27-2012, 11:02 PM
Lakers Heat finals its official

JNoel
10-27-2012, 11:02 PM
Woj is such a beast.

heyman321
10-27-2012, 11:02 PM
Lmao. This shocked the **** outta me.

Shocker to EVERYONE.. wow complete shocker.

Lucky.
10-27-2012, 11:02 PM
:speechless:

yaswaggin
10-27-2012, 11:02 PM
Houston has so many young players with good potential too

Ezio
10-27-2012, 11:03 PM
Dayum just Dayum... I would of at least waited till the end of the season or something like a S&T to somewhere else.

justinnum1
10-27-2012, 11:03 PM
Lakers Heat finals its official

i dont think so. clippers and okc still have a good shot.

xnick5757
10-27-2012, 11:03 PM
here's the contract breakdown of the players involved

Martin - 1 year/$12,439,675
Lamb - 4 years/$9,367,716
2013 Dallas First Round Pick
2013 Toronto First Round Pick

Harden - 1 year/$5,820,417
Cook - 1 year/$3,090,942
Aldridge - 1 year/$2,445,480, Team Option 2014 for 1 year/$3,245,152
Hayward - 1 year/$1,174,080, Team Option 2014 for 1 year/$2,119,214

dee279
10-27-2012, 11:04 PM
Unexpected as hell

JOSKOMANG4
10-27-2012, 11:04 PM
wow. thats pretty unbelievable. they are going to regret giving ibaka the money over harden. he does not impact the game as much as harden.

okc offered harden 4yr 52mill extension but he didnt take it. this ninja wants the max!! wish okc would of traded him to orlando w/perkins and a filler for dwight.

RLundi
10-27-2012, 11:04 PM
Wow, I was for OKC trading Harden but not now and not for Houston's deal. I hate it, even if they get 'significant' draft picks from Houston.

But at least now we'll see what Harden can do. There's been a long-standing debate about his effectiveness as a number one option. I guess we'll find out this season if he's the third best shooting guard in the league.

By the way, this opens the door for the Lakers to go to the Finals.

KB-Pau-DH2012
10-27-2012, 11:04 PM
i dont think so. clippers and okc still have a good shot.

Clippers okay, but OKC, not so much anymore.

29$JerZ
10-27-2012, 11:04 PM
This deal > anything Orlando got for Dwight :laugh2:

Vinylman
10-27-2012, 11:04 PM
woj

except that both picks are protected...

Dallas's is from the odom and fisher trades and is like top 20 protected...

the toronto pick is protected the other way... has to be a lottery i think

Doubt they get either next year

justinnum1
10-27-2012, 11:04 PM
douchard
While I like KMart & Lamb, OKC got worse. No need to make deal this season. Should've tried to win it with Harden.

heyman321
10-27-2012, 11:05 PM
seriously he's a pimp.

JNoel
10-27-2012, 11:05 PM
OKC gets better from this if and only if Martin stays healthy.

JOhnnyTHaJet
10-27-2012, 11:05 PM
Those Toronto and Dallas firsts have the potential to be lottery picks, that's a solid haul for the Thunder in a draft that has a few great big men.

Utd7
10-27-2012, 11:05 PM
Holy Christ at first I thought OKC was only getting Martin which would've been horrible but they get Lamb as well who's young with a high ceiling. Very interesting trade.

B'sCeltsPatsSox
10-27-2012, 11:06 PM
The big problem I have with OKC with this is that all they had to do to keep Harden was to amnesty Perk. They're trying to bank too much on Lamb's potential when Harden was already playing at an all star level and was only going to get better.

But hey at least Hoston has a SG now.

Guppyfighter
10-27-2012, 11:06 PM
Clippers okay, but OKC, not so much anymore.

Are you insane?

LA RO
10-27-2012, 11:06 PM
Crazy

LanceUpperCut
10-27-2012, 11:06 PM
Good deal for both, I can't believe how good OKC is going to be set-up, yes it sucks to lose Harden but K-Mart as a solid 6th man and expiring and 3 first rounders one in Lamb and 2 more 1st rounders next year plus there own pick.

KB-Pau-DH2012
10-27-2012, 11:06 PM
OKC gets better from this if and only if Martin stays healthy.

Harden in only 3 yrs >>> Martin ever was

seikou8
10-27-2012, 11:06 PM
401 guests omg

justinnum1
10-27-2012, 11:07 PM
Clippers okay, but OKC, not so much anymore.

disagree. OKC will still be very dangerous. no one has an answer for durant or westbrook. they are the most atheltic team in the league with maynor coming back, pj3 has a lot of potential, so does lamb. perkins does a great job vs howard.

it wont surprise me if either the lakers, okc, or clippers makes it to the finals

jerellh528
10-27-2012, 11:07 PM
OKC gets better from this if and only if Martin stays healthy.

LOL!
yeah because an older chucking kevin martin and a untested rookie is better than james harden, reigning 6th man and not even close to his prime :facepalm:

Vinylman
10-27-2012, 11:07 PM
Those Toronto and Dallas firsts have the potential to be lottery picks, that's a solid haul for the Thunder in a draft that has a few great big men.

not the dallas pick... it is highly protected

KB-Pau-DH2012
10-27-2012, 11:07 PM
Are you insane?

Insane with what? OKC just got much worse with this trade.

Sandman
10-27-2012, 11:07 PM
okc offered harden 4yr 52mill extension but he didnt take it. this ninja wants the max!! wish okc would of traded him to orlando w/perkins and a filler for dwight.

I wanted this to happen too. Dwight never mentioned OKC as a destination but who the hell would he be to say no to Kevin Durant and Westbrook after already being there a full season.

I didn't like the deal at first, but seeing that Toronto pick makes things a little better. Kevin Martin can play the same role as Harden (tough to say he'll win 6th man tho) and they get some cheap assets for the future.

Jint.
10-27-2012, 11:07 PM
:faint::faint::faint:

oballerc75
10-27-2012, 11:07 PM
Wow!

kswissdaf
10-27-2012, 11:07 PM
I dont really like Lamb. Martin is what he is. terrible tade for okc

justinnum1
10-27-2012, 11:08 PM
The big problem I have with OKC with this is that all they had to do to keep Harden was to amnesty Perk. They're trying to bank too much on Lamb's potential when Harden was already playing at an all star level and was only going to get better.

But hey at least Hoston has a SG now.

lamb is going to be very good. also, pj3 is looking like an absolute steal

YungDaSensai
10-27-2012, 11:08 PM
And we all laughed at Houston after some of there questionable off season moves

Guppyfighter
10-27-2012, 11:08 PM
Insane with what? OKC just got much worse with this trade.

They did get worse, but you are insane if they don't have a shot or they have a much worse shot.

GottaLoveCubs
10-27-2012, 11:08 PM
How do the Rockets have THIS much money??

SteBO
10-27-2012, 11:08 PM
LAL as far as I'm concerned, is without question the best in the west after this trade. I think OKC just got worse.

DoMeFavors
10-27-2012, 11:09 PM
Terrible trade for OKC? Why are people acting like Harden is that good? He was a role player. Kevin Martin is better.

J4KOP99
10-27-2012, 11:09 PM
Wow that's crazy. Idk what to think. But for those that think Martin=harden... You're out of your minds.

Lambs gonna be nice though

KB24PG16
10-27-2012, 11:09 PM
llullz

Dade County
10-27-2012, 11:09 PM
All this because okc couldn't afford the luxury tax

Ironic

I know :laugh:

But i am happy, this Super team would have been to good way too long.

KnicksorBust
10-27-2012, 11:09 PM
harden/durant > westbrook/durant

They paid the wrong guy.

Either way... Harden at $5.8 is a bargain and they just threw away a shot at a championship. PATHETIC move by OKC. Enjoy your 2nd round exit to the CLIPPERS.

rocket
10-27-2012, 11:09 PM
Is OKC challenged?

seikou8
10-27-2012, 11:09 PM
bye okc chances of winning a title

B'sCeltsPatsSox
10-27-2012, 11:09 PM
lamb is going to be very good. also, pj3 is looking like an absolute steal

Again though, you're banking way too much on a LOTTERY player's potential. There were rumors before the draft that Harden could have been traded for the 2nd pick in the draft, which would've been a way better trade.

Raye
10-27-2012, 11:10 PM
Interested to see how Jeremy Lamb fits in with the Thunder. If he's a good enough defender then i think he can knock off Thabo in the starting lineup. I really like his game, smooth, athletic, and a nice shooter. I personally never liked Harden's game but wish him luck in houston he'll need it if he is really concerned about winning.

popo85
10-27-2012, 11:10 PM
Watch Houston give him a Joe Johnson contract

godolphins
10-27-2012, 11:10 PM
This trade is good for the Lakers and Rockets. And bad for the Thunders. Kevin Martin is a good player but James Harden is the best 6th man in the NBA and he's also a top 5 SG.

Vinylman
10-27-2012, 11:10 PM
PRESTI IS A GANGSTA

HEY HARDEN.... THIS IS WHAT YOU GET


DON"T LIKE IT ?

ENJOY HOUSTON FOR THE NEXT 5 YEARS


:guns::guns::guns::guns::guns::guns::guns::guns:

KB-Pau-DH2012
10-27-2012, 11:10 PM
disagree. OKC will still be very dangerous. no one has an answer for durant or westbrook. they are the most atheltic team in the league with maynor coming back, pj3 has a lot of potential, so does lamb. perkins does a great job vs howard.

it wont surprise me if either the lakers, okc, or clippers makes it to the finals

I guess the politically proper way to put this is that OKC is no longer the prohibited favorites over even slightly favored over the Lakers to make it out of the West.

Green_Monster
10-27-2012, 11:10 PM
I'm shocked right now. This is a great trade for Houston.

jerellh528
10-27-2012, 11:10 PM
Terrible trade for OKC? Why are people acting like Harden is that good? He was a role player. Kevin Martin is better.

Martin is better than harden? LOLOLOL!
:rimshot:

justinnum1
10-27-2012, 11:10 PM
lakers still have work to do. there are no shooters on that team and they need to find some soon.

Raps18-19 Champ
10-27-2012, 11:10 PM
Similar to the role OKC used him. Harden could be a legit #1 option here though instead of being behind Durant and Westy on the depth chart. Harden and Lowry would be the 1 and 2 options. I'm sure Ross, one of our bigs and a future 1st or 2 would of worked. Or even Derozan.

No. They got Lamb in the deal, who is arguably better than Ross. None of our bigmen would land anything since they are already set at the C and PF. We also can't trade future 1st round picks. Derozan isn't landing Harden either.

Ezio
10-27-2012, 11:10 PM
lamb is going to be very good. also, pj3 is looking like an absolute steal

He was almost a Bull :sad2:

SportsAndrew25
10-27-2012, 11:10 PM
This is devastating for the Oklahoma City Thunder. To lose such a valuable player is not helpful for a team that has championship aspirations.

TheSource
10-27-2012, 11:11 PM
Harden had a way better chemistry with OKC, Kevin will ruin it or won't fit in.

Abel Ye
10-27-2012, 11:11 PM
Wow this is amazing.Never doubting the Rockets or Morey again.

B'sCeltsPatsSox
10-27-2012, 11:11 PM
Watch Houston give him a Joe Johnson contract

They can't. Most they can offer is 4 years 60 million.

Vincent33
10-27-2012, 11:11 PM
I like Sam Presti.

Offer James Harden rumored 4yr/52M, Harden says "**** that, no thanks", Presti says "Alright, GTFO pal"

JNoel
10-27-2012, 11:12 PM
Harden in only 3 yrs >>> Martin ever was


LOL!
yeah because an older chucking kevin martin and a untested rookie is better than james harden, reigning 6th man and not even close to his prime :facepalm:

Martin is an older mold of Harden, though OKC will miss Harden's defense, Martin is an equal if not better scorer than Harden is.

Carey
10-27-2012, 11:12 PM
Harden is my favorite player and i wanted him to stay in OKC but at the end of the day 52 million wasnt enough for him. Im excited with the pieces we got in this deal, great job Presti. Now we re-sign Maynor, groom Jeremy Lamb, etc.

DoMeFavors
10-27-2012, 11:12 PM
harden/durant > westbrook/durant

They paid the wrong guy.

Either way... Harden at $5.8 is a bargain and they just threw away a shot at a championship. PATHETIC move by OKC. Enjoy your 2nd round exit to the CLIPPERS.

Um no do you see Westbrook coming off the bench?

popo85
10-27-2012, 11:12 PM
They can't. Most they can offer is 4 years 60 million.

Oh my bad, they got saved then lol.

jerellh528
10-27-2012, 11:12 PM
lakers still have work to do. there are no shooters on that team and they need to find some soon.

why do you keep bringing up the lakers lol..
nash, meeks, jamison, blake, kobe, say hi.

The goods
10-27-2012, 11:12 PM
Damn that's hard to believe, but they were probably going to lose him in free agency anyway.

Ezio
10-27-2012, 11:13 PM
Damn that's hard to believe, but they were probably going to lose him in free agency anyway.

They probably would but they could of gotten a better package.

jerellh528
10-27-2012, 11:13 PM
Martin is an older mold of Harden, though OKC will miss Harden's defense, Martin is an equal if not better scorer than Harden is.

Not even close, martin needs alot more shots that he will take away from KD to put up the kind of efficient production harden does.

justinnum1
10-27-2012, 11:14 PM
Again though, you're banking way too much on a LOTTERY player's potential. There were rumors before the draft that Harden could have been traded for the 2nd pick in the draft, which would've been a way better trade.

thats all they were...rumors

bottom line is the future for OKC is looking even better than it did, especially with presti calling the shots which his track record has shown he is great at.

if pj3 and lamb can contribute this season then i dont think okc loses a lot

they still have
durant
westbrook
ibaka
maynor
perkins
collison
sefolosha

Utd7
10-27-2012, 11:14 PM
This came out of NOWHERE. Major props to Woj, no wonder ESPN wanted him.

Punk
10-27-2012, 11:14 PM
LOL at people thinking OKC is done. Wow.

Westbrook/Maynor/Jackson
Sefelosha/Martin/Lamb
Durant/Jones
Ibaka/Collison
Perkins/Thabeet/Orton

They traded for a 20ppg career player and a scoring prospect. They will terrorize teams with small ball now.

Baller1
10-27-2012, 11:14 PM
:laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: way to throw away give years of genious general managing Presti.

Good thing the real NBA team is going to be back where it belongs in Seattle, have fun losing to LA and Miami every year OKC, haha. Woooooooow!

TO Rapz
10-27-2012, 11:14 PM
No. They got Lamb in the deal, who is arguably better than Ross. None of our bigmen would land anything since they are already set at the C and PF. We also can't trade future 1st round picks. Derozan isn't landing Harden either.

Theoretically though, Ross > Lamb because we took Terrence at 8 and Lamb went at 12. Say they equal each other.

Then we have the Martin, 2 1sts part.

Derozan is younger then K-Mart so obviously he has more value. Throw in a guy like Ed Davis and it gets the deal done even with their plethora of bigs IMO. We had the pieces, whether it'd be other players involved.

KB-Pau-DH2012
10-27-2012, 11:15 PM
Martin is an older mold of Harden, though OKC will miss Harden's defense, Martin is an equal if not better scorer than Harden is.

No he isn't. Martin does not take it to the whole like Harden does. In fact, Martin settles for pull up long 2's and 3's. Plus, Harden for a young dude was a pretty solid and aggressive defender, something Martin never was and never will be.

DoMeFavors
10-27-2012, 11:15 PM
LOL at people thinking OKC is done. Wow.

Westbrook/Maynor/Jackson
Sefelosha/Martin/Lamb
Durant/Jones
Ibaka/Collison
Perkins/Thabeet/Orton

They traded for a 20ppg career player and a scoring prospect. They will terrorize teams with small ball now.

Yep and Martin is a better catch and shoot player, and when Durant goes to bench Martin can score at will.

s3antana5757
10-27-2012, 11:15 PM
This is a huge deal though. I like what they got, but those players are no where near what Harden is. In a perfect world, Lamb becomes what Harden is. The major knock on Lamb(and having gone to UConn I can tell you from experience) he wants to play no defense and is a total party animal/stoner.

superwill
10-27-2012, 11:15 PM
it would be funny if he doesn't resign with houston

JdKing7
10-27-2012, 11:15 PM
Unbelieveable...lamb will be an excellent piece for the future and cheaper. But I was pretty excited to see how this year played out with OKC and the lakers so im pretty disappointed. I basically **** myself when i saw it first reported.

justinnum1
10-27-2012, 11:15 PM
Not even close, martin needs alot more shots that he will take away from KD to put up the kind of efficient production harden does.

you dont know that.

question, was harden as good as he was becuse who he was playing with or becuase he's that good?

29$JerZ
10-27-2012, 11:15 PM
OKC really needs to hope one of Martin/Lamb blow up this season and Maynor stays healthy all season.

This will hurt them quite a bit this season.

JNoel
10-27-2012, 11:16 PM
Not even close, martin needs alot more shots that he will take away from KD to put up the kind of efficient production harden does.

So Harden's many shots didn't take away from KDs production? If anything get Westbrook to take less shots, cause he's the main problem in OKC right now.

KB-Pau-DH2012
10-27-2012, 11:16 PM
:laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: way to throw away give years of genious general managing Presti.

Good thing the real nBA team is going to be back where it belongs in Seattle, have fun losing to LA and Miami every year OKC, haha. Woooooooow!

Bandwagonner.


Rookie KD was the last great player of your Seattle Sonics. Atleast have some love for that franchise after you dickrided them these last couple of yrs.

#shameless

Alayla
10-27-2012, 11:16 PM
i dont understand the overreacting on the OKC side i think it works out well for them

JasonJohnHorn
10-27-2012, 11:17 PM
OKC had the right idea, but the execution is all wrong. Lamb looks like an interesting pick up. He had pretty good FG% in college. I would have liked to see them trade for a young player who has already proved his game is NBA ready. I mentioned in another thread that they should have gotten on the horn to Sac-town and see if they could get Klay Thompson and some picks. But Jeremy Lamb could prove to be as good as Klay. Kevin Martin's FG% has dropped the last couple of seasons, but I think that is in part becuase he's taking more threes. Still... you want a SG that can shoot.

They should have put him on the market first, see what they could get, unless the GM really wanted Lamb. And if they get a couple first rounders, that should be good, because OKC has been drafting well lately.

Sandman
10-27-2012, 11:17 PM
Um no do you see Westbrook coming off the bench?

That doesn't mean ish tho.

Do you think Sefolosha is a better player than James Harden?

Bravo95
10-27-2012, 11:17 PM
Forget the actual on-court part of it:

Remember all that BS some of you talked about "loyalty" and giving discounts?

Presti just showed you once again why that concept is stupid. The NBA is a business, and players should rarely if ever leave money on the table.

Utd7
10-27-2012, 11:17 PM
Call me crazy but I still like OKC, a lot. They're still going to be dangerous. Martin has to stay healthy though. That is the key. Plus they get Lamb which is scary because his potential is very good.

PC
10-27-2012, 11:17 PM
Harden got kinda overrated last year. I thought this was a pretty fair deal for both sides:shrug:

nrvana
10-27-2012, 11:18 PM
i think the trade was ok for both sides. what's interesting is the timing of it all since nba tipoff is almost underway.

Corey
10-27-2012, 11:18 PM
HOLY ****.

Was not expecting that at all.

B'sCeltsPatsSox
10-27-2012, 11:18 PM
thats all they were...rumors

bottom line is the future for OKC is looking even better than it did, especially with presti calling the shots which his track record has shown he is great at.

if pj3 and lamb can contribute this season then i dont think okc loses a lot

they still have
durant
westbrook
ibaka
maynor
perkins
collison
sefolosha

Harden just turn 23 and just finished his 3rd NBA season and played at an all-star level. With his potential he's going to be a top 10 player for a few years during his prime. How can you say OKC's future is looking better when they just traded that for a lottery player who has yet to play a single game in the NBA.

I don't think it knocks OKC out of contention, but it opens up the door for the Spurs a bit more now.

Vinylman
10-27-2012, 11:18 PM
it would be funny if he doesn't resign with houston

He will be an RFA....

He has no ****ing choice :speechless:

Patrick Ewing33
10-27-2012, 11:18 PM
Why is everybody flipping out on OKC? I think it's a pretty fair deal. Infact it's going to affect them in the present AND future with these draft picks, Toronto blows and Dallas could be a top 15 pick. Although OKC is in win now mode they get a great scorer who scored 23.5ppg 2 seasons ago playing every game but 2, scored 17ppg last year... And they they get a flashy rookie who looked good in pre. Not a bad deal what so ever.

dee279
10-27-2012, 11:18 PM
OkC has a genius as a GM. 2 future first and one of them being Toronto. Wow! K Mart is no slouch. Not that big of a downgrade IMo

justinnum1
10-27-2012, 11:18 PM
OKC just doesnt have the money to pay luxury tax

JNoel
10-27-2012, 11:18 PM
No he isn't. Martin does not take it to the whole like Harden does. In fact, Martin settles for pull up long 2's and 3's. Plus, Harden for a young dude was a pretty solid and aggressive defender, something Martin never was and never will be.

Martin is known for being able to draw fouls and can score in a variety of different ways. He will come off the bench anyways with Sefelosha starting so they really won't miss Hardens defense.

Raye
10-27-2012, 11:19 PM
:laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: way to throw away give years of genious general managing Presti.

Good thing the real NBA team is going to be back where it belongs in Seattle, have fun losing to LA and Miami every year OKC, haha. Woooooooow!

The support for your team is amazing. What team is going back to Seattle anyways?

Bravo95
10-27-2012, 11:19 PM
Martin is an older mold of Harden
............wut

KB24PG16
10-27-2012, 11:19 PM
so the new cba didnt help out the small market team lulz

Teeboy1487
10-27-2012, 11:20 PM
This weakens OKC imo. Martin is not as good as Harden at this point and is injury prone. Lamb is a young and raw rookie. As a Laker fan, I love this trade. Still, OKC is still a force and it will take a great effort to beat them. Great trade for Houston.

Im_in_Mia_bish
10-27-2012, 11:20 PM
... wow

KniCks4LiFe
10-27-2012, 11:20 PM
Wth is OKC doing? it was one playoff series where Harden was stopped. He still a baby. smh LOLS

jerellh528
10-27-2012, 11:20 PM
you dont know that.

question, was harden as good as he was becuse who he was playing with or becuase he's that good?

Yeah, harden is just far more effecient and his defense will be missed with martin...Your question though is a fair one, and we will see this season. I think he still balls out tho.

JNoel
10-27-2012, 11:21 PM
............wut

Both are scorers, the same type of mold, or player

superwill
10-27-2012, 11:21 PM
He will be an RFA....

He has no ****ing choice :speechless:

this is the NBA the players always have a choice

justinnum1
10-27-2012, 11:21 PM
Harden just turn 23 and just finished his 3rd NBA season and played at an all-star level. With his potential he's going to be a top 10 player for a few years during his prime. How can you say OKC's future is looking better when they just traded that for a lottery player who has yet to play a single game in the NBA.

I don't think it knocks OKC out of contention, but it opens up the door for the Spurs a bit more now.

It looks better because sam presti has shown he can deliver on draft picks. Thats my opinion, if you disagree, thats fine. OKC cant afford to pay luxury tax. I still think OKC makes the WCF with a great chance to make the finals.

J4KOP99
10-27-2012, 11:21 PM
I will say this though... Speaking as a lakers fan, harden scared the **** out of me.

I would have to say that this looks to help out the lakers, at least for this year.

Patrick Ewing33
10-27-2012, 11:21 PM
Didn't expect this..

Corey
10-27-2012, 11:21 PM
Harden just turn 23 and just finished his 3rd NBA season and played at an all-star level. With his potential he's going to be a top 10 player for a few years during his prime. How can you say OKC's future is looking better when they just traded that for a lottery player who has yet to play a single game in the NBA.

I don't think it knocks OKC out of contention, but it opens up the door for the Spurs a bit more now.

I actually like the deal for OKC. Dont really see how they get any worse.

Kevin Martin is honestly better at creating his own shot than Harden, which makes him a very good super-sixth man type while Durant/Westbrook are out of the game.

Lamb is going to get buckets, plain and simple. Very good player going into a very good system for him to grow and develop.

I like it for OKC assuming it doesn't KILL their chemistry.

AI
10-27-2012, 11:21 PM
Am I the only one who doesn't see this as a bad trade? Lamb will be a stud, Martin can come off the bench as a 6th man and OKC gets significant picks to keep stacking that team up with young talent.

bonesaw4343
10-27-2012, 11:21 PM
As an OKC fan now that the shock is starting to go away that Harden is gone I'm actually starting to like this trade a lot for the team. Lamb should be good and the 2 first rounders could turn into something great. This also gives them much more room to build depth instead of having so much tied up in 4 players. But still wow.

Punk
10-27-2012, 11:21 PM
Harden just turn 23 and just finished his 3rd NBA season and played at an all-star level. With his potential he's going to be a top 10 player for a few years during his prime. How can you say OKC's future is looking better when they just traded that for a lottery player who has yet to play a single game in the NBA.

I don't think it knocks OKC out of contention, but it opens up the door for the Spurs a bit more now.

How? Sure, Harden played well last season but that doesn't mean anything right now. He disappeared in the Finals.

OKC now has Martin, Lamb, draft picks for another trade. So, now they have more shooting options and scoring options plus a future quality piece or draft picks to flip in another trade.

seikou8
10-27-2012, 11:22 PM
mna so many guests and okc wow

Baller1
10-27-2012, 11:22 PM
Bandwagonner.


Rookie KD was the last great player of your Seattle Sonics. Atleast have some love for that franchise after you dickrided them these last couple of yrs.

#shameless

Or maybe you can mind your own ****ing business and let me be a fan of the team I'd like to be a fan of? Just a thought.

OKC just traded away any chance of a championship, that's a fact. With Seattle most likely getting a team very soon, it actually makes me happy.

KniCks4LiFe
10-27-2012, 11:22 PM
Lin + Harden backcourt

KB-Pau-DH2012
10-27-2012, 11:22 PM
Martin is known for being able to draw fouls and can score in a variety of different ways. He will come off the bench anyways with Sefelosha starting so they really won't miss Hardens defense.

Harden was also a good playmaker. I assume OKC will survive as Eric Maynor is coming back in, but it doesn't hurt to have two guys who can do that with Westy on the bench.

Also, for a young guy, Harden had a high basketball IQ, something that Martin has never come across IMO.

JasonJohnHorn
10-27-2012, 11:22 PM
Theoretically though, Ross > Lamb because we took Terrence at 8 and Lamb went at 12. Say they equal each other.

Then we have the Martin, 2 1sts part.

Derozan is younger then K-Mart so obviously he has more value. Throw in a guy like Ed Davis and it gets the deal done even with their plethora of bigs IMO. We had the pieces, whether it'd be other players involved.

Why would any team wnat derozen. His FG% is awful! The only reason he has a high scoring averages is because Toronto doesn't have anybody to shoot the ball.:facepalm: No way OKC takes Derozen back in a trade.

Punkindrublic03
10-27-2012, 11:22 PM
just give KD the ball.. who needs harden

_KB24_
10-27-2012, 11:23 PM
Wow. Speechless. OKC just got a whole lot worse if you ask me.

justinnum1
10-27-2012, 11:23 PM
This season cant start soon enough.

Raps18-19 Champ
10-27-2012, 11:23 PM
Theoretically though, Ross > Lamb because we took Terrence at 8 and Lamb went at 12. Say they equal each other.

If you want to look at it by draft picks, sure. But from common sense, Lamb has proven so much more than Ross, in both college and preseason.


Then we have the Martin, 2 1sts part.

Again, we couldn't trade any first round picks since we alreayd sent a conditional first to the Rockets.


Derozan is younger then K-Mart so obviously he has more value. Youth = value. K-Mart is the better player. They still want to compete. Martin is still a shooter for them. Derozan wouldn't be effective on that team at all since he can't shoot.


in a guy like Ed Davis and it gets the deal done even with their plethora of bigs IMO.

Ed Davis is the difference maker? :laugh:

[QUOTE]We had the pieces, whether it'd be other players involved.

Unless you're prepared to give up Jonas, a trade with the Raptors wasn't working.

yaswaggin
10-27-2012, 11:23 PM
If they stayed in Seattle, they could have afforded the luxury tax

SA5195
10-27-2012, 11:23 PM
Woah wait wtf

Hustla23
10-27-2012, 11:23 PM
Well OKC, you didn't want to pay Harden. You might not have to pay Durant either, if you know what I mean. ;)

justinnum1
10-27-2012, 11:23 PM
woj
Thunder pushed final offer to Harden to 4 years, $53M-$54M, sources tell Y! When that couldn't get deal done, Presti moved into trade mode.

harden is a little ***** if he held out for another 2 mil...(whats the most he could have gotten)?

KniCks4LiFe
10-27-2012, 11:24 PM
just give KD the ball.. who needs harden

judging how OKC disappeared as soon as Harden stopped scoring. They do. LOLS

Punk
10-27-2012, 11:24 PM
Also, Lin must be happy as hell he has a star to play with now, lol.

Vinylman
10-27-2012, 11:24 PM
this is the NBA the players always have a choice

wrong...

they have his rights...

jesus... do you think morey is that stupid?

quit embarrassing yourself

LakersMaster24
10-27-2012, 11:24 PM
Thank you OKC for making our trip to the Finals less "Harden" ;)

justinnum1
10-27-2012, 11:24 PM
woj
Houston plans to give James Harden a four year, $60 million extension once deal is completed, league sources tell Y! Sports.

harden is an idiot

Im_in_Mia_bish
10-27-2012, 11:25 PM
lamb has been BALLIN for h-town, and the word is he has potential to be a good player.

and in the mean time, they have kevin martin...

i say good deal for both teams

justinnum1
10-27-2012, 11:25 PM
Thank you OKC for making our trip to the Finals less "Harden" ;)

:facepalm:

Bravo95
10-27-2012, 11:25 PM
Are people really judging Harden's value by what LEBRON JAMES AND DWYANE WADE did to him in the Finals?

That's.... interesting.

BKdoubleStacker
10-27-2012, 11:25 PM
The thunder are not "fine". Kevin martin can light it up, but he is a horrible defender and is consistently injured.

They will obviously still be a top team in the west, but this puts the lakers as the clear favorite.

29$JerZ
10-27-2012, 11:25 PM
How? Sure, Harden played well last season but that doesn't mean anything right now. He disappeared in the Finals.

OKC now has Martin, Lamb, draft picks for another trade. So, now they have more shooting options and scoring options plus a future quality piece or draft picks to flip in another trade.

LeBron disappeared in the Mavs/HEAT finals.
That means nothing.

This trade is only good for OKC because they don't lose Harden for nothing.
However this definitely kills their finals chances.

OKC just went through 4 years of "potential". Adding more of it isn't what a title team needs.

Baller1
10-27-2012, 11:25 PM
Houston is ****ing legit now if Lin can play well.

Vinylman
10-27-2012, 11:25 PM
I will say this though... Speaking as a lakers fan, harden scared the **** out of me.

I would have to say that this looks to help out the lakers, at least for this year.

the next two years... and since that is our real window... it is very good news...

I still like the deal longer term for OKC but it definitely hurts in the short term... :D

Bruno
10-27-2012, 11:26 PM
morey is brilliant.

rockbottom2010
10-27-2012, 11:26 PM
hardens gonna be an all star w/o question

Bruno
10-27-2012, 11:26 PM
bring back Yao!!!

Im_in_Mia_bish
10-27-2012, 11:26 PM
lol laker fans gettin happy and next thing u know okc still beats them lol

KniCks4LiFe
10-27-2012, 11:26 PM
I dare someone to tell me Houston isn't a 6th seed.

Lin + Harden + Parsons + Jones (y'all need to peep his game)

knicks=love
10-27-2012, 11:26 PM
rockets are going to be fun as **** to watch this year. thunder are stupid to make this trade literally days before the season starts IMO. wait a year to at least make a run at the title again and then see what you can do in the offseason.

Raps18-19 Champ
10-27-2012, 11:26 PM
woj

harden is a little ***** if he held out for another 2 mil...(whats the most he could have gotten)?

He held out for another $8 million. Max is 4 years for $60 mil.

But why is he a little *****? There's a demand for him. No way should he settle for less to please fans?

KB24PG16
10-27-2012, 11:26 PM
dont think its money that harden held out for, he wanted to have his own team. the shadows of westbrook and durant were too large for another 'star' to fit into

Raps18-19 Champ
10-27-2012, 11:26 PM
Thank you OKC for making our trip to the Finals less "Harden" ;)

Doesn't make sense.

justinnum1
10-27-2012, 11:26 PM
popovic is loving this

Patrick Ewing33
10-27-2012, 11:26 PM
Harden is getting over-rated now..

Bruno
10-27-2012, 11:27 PM
can we all agree that LAL just won the WC crown?

:hide:

Bruno
10-27-2012, 11:27 PM
lol laker fans gettin happy and next thing u know okc still beats them lol

lol possibly.

KB24PG16
10-27-2012, 11:27 PM
lol laker fans gettin happy and next thing u know okc still beats them lol

that would be lulz

LakersMaster24
10-27-2012, 11:27 PM
Thank you OKC for making our trip to the Finals less "Harden" ;)

:facepalm:

:facepalm: at your pathetic life.

AI
10-27-2012, 11:27 PM
Harden is a moron. Between 4/$54M with OKC and 4/$60M with HOU, I sign with the Thunder 10 times out of 10. Just wow.

Baller1
10-27-2012, 11:27 PM
Harden is a ****ing punk too... Went from being my favorite player to a douche in my book.

Im_in_Mia_bish
10-27-2012, 11:27 PM
okc now has lamb, perry jones to develop, and durant, westy, ibaka.

anyone else think this trade was good for them financially?

JNoel
10-27-2012, 11:27 PM
Am I the only one who doesn't see this as a bad trade? Lamb will be a stud, Martin can come off the bench as a 6th man and OKC gets significant picks to keep stacking that team up with young talent.
No your not, as I keep saying OKC got better from this trade. Also resigning Martin will not affect their cap as it would have resigning Harden.


Harden was also a good playmaker. I assume OKC will survive as Eric Maynor is coming back in, but it doesn't hurt to have two guys who can do that with Westy on the bench.

Also, for a young guy, Harden had a high basketball IQ, something that Martin has never come across IMO.

I think Martin has a high IQ but limited playmaking ability like you said