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justndav
10-21-2012, 10:13 PM
Joe Buck and Tim McCarver both have ties to the Cardinals and they get to announce these games? Why. Its pretty crappy you can tell who theyre pulling for. If the cardinals come back, they won that game against the nat's when they were down big early, tryibg to get to their sixth ws in last x years...on and on.... Really? These two are not objective when the cardinals are involved, its sad. Get bob brenly and ron darling, cal ripken, etc so many other choices.

RevHokALugie
10-21-2012, 10:18 PM
That's about as bad as how mlb chose big racist like Jessie Jackson to host the civil rights game. :facepalm:

idrinkpepsi
10-21-2012, 10:18 PM
I don't care if they are biased or not, just give us good announcers. Both Buck and McCarver (who somehow won an award for it) are absolutely terrible.

rocket
10-21-2012, 10:20 PM
ummm clearly yolo

justndav
10-21-2012, 10:22 PM
These two can't help but to slob the cardinals knob every chance they get, just listen to them the rest of the way, and tomorrow. I shouldn't be able to tell who they are pulling for.

lincecum=future
10-21-2012, 10:24 PM
Funny how almost EVERYONE thinks Buck and McCarver are absolute trash yet they continue to do all the games. They piss me off even more than usual this series because you can clearly see a bias.

Jeffy25
10-21-2012, 10:27 PM
I don't care if they are biased or not, just give us good announcers. Both Buck and McCarver (who somehow won an award for it) are absolutely terrible.

Exactly.

They are horrible, but their bias isn't what makes them horrible. Their stupidity does.

justndav
10-21-2012, 10:27 PM
Yeah just said chris carpenter had a tight strike zone, funny vogelsong didnt have any issues...

Driven
10-21-2012, 10:31 PM
Joe Buck and Tim McCarver both have ties to the Cardinals and they get to announce these games? Why. Its pretty crappy you can tell who theyre pulling for. If the cardinals come back, they won that game against the nat's when they were down big early, tryibg to get to their sixth ws in last x years...on and on.... Really? These two are not objective when the cardinals are involved, its sad. Get bob brenly and ron darling, cal ripken, etc so many other choices.
How are these guys possible when they're under contract with another network?

FOX does two series - the NLCS and the World Series. They have their commentary team set no matter who plays in the games. I'm not sure why this is a huge deal.

Cal Ripken did the Orioles series. **** happens.

nr19
10-21-2012, 10:33 PM
How are these guys possible when they're under contract with another network?

FOX does two series - the NLCS and the World Series. They have their commentary team set no matter who plays in the games. I'm not sure why this is a huge deal.

Cal Ripken did the Orioles series. **** happens.

And Cal did a great job because he's not a complete moron like the Fox idiots. I can't stand Joe Buck.

justndav
10-21-2012, 10:35 PM
Doesn't fox use many different announcers during the season they could have on standby? Sure do. And Ripken was objective at least.

Driven
10-21-2012, 10:36 PM
And Cal did a great job because he's not a complete moron like the Fox idiots. I can't stand Joe Buck.
I didn't Cal was good at all, and he was clearly biased.

You can argue about McCarver and Buck being bad commentators, but I don't see the problem with the "bias"

These commentators are set in stone to do these series no matter who plays.

Driven
10-21-2012, 10:37 PM
Doesn't fox use many different announcers during the season they could have on standby? Sure do. And Ripken was objective at least.
Oh come on.

So if the Giants make the Super Bowl, and CBS is broadcasting it, Phil Simms and Jim Nantz shouldn't be doing commentary?

All these networks have their "A" teams, and their "A" teams are going to do their "A" games.

They pay Buck "A" team money. They pay their 2nd best play-by-play guy "B" team money. Why would the B guy do the A game, especially when that means you're going to have to pay him more?

And you cannot tell me that Ripken was blatantly biased towards the Orioles. When McLouth caught the final out against Texas, Cal was cheering for him to catch it

Halladay
10-21-2012, 10:39 PM
I watch with the sound down.

justndav
10-21-2012, 10:40 PM
Well if theyre set in stone someone should talk to them about journalistic integrity as there are people from the other city watching the broadcast too.

Cal I thought was fair and unbiased.

I just think there are way better options than these two.

BKdoubleStacker
10-21-2012, 10:44 PM
i dont mind buck

mccarver is awful

Jeffy25
10-21-2012, 10:46 PM
Well if theyre set in stone someone should talk to them about journalistic integrity as there are people from the other city watching the broadcast too.

Cal I thought was fair and unbiased.

I just think there are way better options than these two.

They aren't that biased.

Cards fan or not, they are not Hawk Harreslon bad.

You can tell they prefer the Cards, and they know that team better. But they are doing more just saying what they see and think than anything.

justndav
10-21-2012, 10:47 PM
Yeah Jeffy they aren't Hawk-bad, thank goodness

T 980
10-21-2012, 10:49 PM
Joe Buck sounds like he hates baseball

Max Power
10-21-2012, 10:53 PM
Not sure if they're biased, but Buck sounds like he doesn't want to be there, and McCarver is just a blithering hillbilly. They must have pictures of someone in the MLB or FOX management doing priestly things with monkeys.

davids22
10-21-2012, 10:56 PM
Unrelated, but I couldn't stand listening to Brian Anderson during the NLCS last year. If anyone doesn't know, he does the Brewers on FSN, and he does a great job. I actually love Brian Anderson. I just hated him being objective and having to stay neutral during the NLCS (and therefore doing an exciting call whenever the Cardinals did something exciting).

Jeffy25
10-21-2012, 10:59 PM
at least it isn't Joe Morgan

BKdoubleStacker
10-21-2012, 11:03 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xdTYVxzEwI

2323
10-21-2012, 11:03 PM
They're both awful. And they're both biased. But being biased isnt their biggest problem as much as it's simply being bad.

Every year, people complain about McCarver and Buck but it never changes. Executives at TV networks also have big egos and they'll go with their favorites as they think they know better.

bootleg42
10-21-2012, 11:15 PM
That's about as bad as how mlb chose big racist like Jessie Jackson to host the civil rights game. :facepalm:

Jessie Jackson racist?!?!?!?!?!???

The things people say on these boards sometimes.....:facepalm:

RevHokALugie
10-21-2012, 11:25 PM
Jessie Jackson racist?!?!?!?!?!???

The things people say on these boards sometimes.....:facepalm:

Want me to prove it? Hold on, I'll pull up a crap ton of quotes.

"White men have long fantasized about black women and it's wrong"

"Jesse Jackson called Jews "Hymies", and referred to New York City as "Hymietown."

“[Spitting into the food of white customers at a hotel in Greenville, South Carolina] gave me psychological gratification.” — ‘The Rev’ Jesse Jackson



Want anymore I have about half a dozen of articles all about racist stunts and quotes the mans pulled? I have plenty of time. :rolleyes:

Jeffy25
10-21-2012, 11:27 PM
While none of the comments about Jackson and racism are unacceptable, I would just mind posters to be aware that a racist comment, even in jest, will force action by a moderator. So just be aware, and it's probably best to just move back to topic.

theproof
10-21-2012, 11:57 PM
I feel like I'm the only person that has no big problem with these two. Their far from perfect but I don't find them so annoying to the point that I feel bothered by them.

natepro
10-22-2012, 07:05 AM
I feel like I'm the only person that has no big problem with these two. Their far from perfect but I don't find them so annoying to the point that I feel bothered by them.

I actually like Joe Buck.

Anyway, I'd love to talk about this whole bias thing more, but I don't want to miss finding out more about what Giants fans are talking about on Twitter today.

idrinkpepsi
10-22-2012, 07:57 AM
I feel like I'm the only person that has no big problem with these two. Their far from perfect but I don't find them so annoying to the point that I feel bothered by them.Years ago I could tolerate it, I was like no big deal. I mean I actually have liked some of Joe Buck's calls in the past but now it's just gotten worse. Knowing Fox if they canned one of them they'd throw Hawk Harrelson in there instead, which would be just as bad

Pinstripe pride
10-22-2012, 10:05 AM
buck and mccarver should be repalced or all games, not just ones they are biased towards. they are absolutly awful