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Capital G
10-19-2012, 10:58 AM
congrats.

thought rios or dunn would win it though.

DaSox_05
10-19-2012, 11:04 AM
Per MLB Twitter feed.

Alex Rios got screwed imo.

DaSox_05
10-19-2012, 11:06 AM
Alex Rios was a -0.8 WAR in 2011. In 2012 his WAR was 4.3

His 2011 OPS .613, his 2012 .850.

JoeDirt05
10-19-2012, 11:06 AM
posey is getting the MVP this should have gone to someone else I think

ebbucsfan
10-19-2012, 11:20 AM
Mariano Rivera's best season ever: 4-2, 53 saves, 66 K’s, 1.94 ERA, 1.08 WHIP
Dennis Eckersley's best season ever: 7-1, 51 saves, 93 K’s, 1.91 ERA, 0.93 WHIP
Fernando Rodney: 2-2, 48 saves, 76 K’s, 0.60 ERA, 0.77 WHIP

Rodney also set the record for lowest ERA in a single season. Statistically, he just had the best season ever for a closer, I'd say he deserves comeback player of the year considering last year he had a 4.50 era and 3 saves in 39 games.

HowFit
10-19-2012, 11:32 AM
Congrats to both!

StayOnBoard
10-19-2012, 11:33 AM
Mariano Rivera's best season ever: 4-2, 53 saves, 66 Ks, 1.94 ERA, 1.08 WHIP
Dennis Eckersley's best season ever: 7-1, 51 saves, 93 Ks, 1.91 ERA, 0.93 WHIP
Fernando Rodney: 2-2, 48 saves, 76 Ks, 0.60 ERA, 0.77 WHIP

Rodney also set the record for lowest ERA in a single season. Statistically, he just had the best season ever for a closer, I'd say he deserves comeback player of the year considering last year he had a 4.50 era and 3 saves in 39 games.

Fully agree - I didnt see that coming (at all) either...... literally out of no where.

RTL
10-19-2012, 11:46 AM
Congrats to both! Posey started out sluggish and rusty but goddamn did he ever finish strong. Rodney had an amazing year. I really thought either Dunn or Peavy would get it. Hell, they had Rios and Pierzynski too. White Sox were filled with candidates.

getfoul
10-19-2012, 12:17 PM
Who won last year?

Exactly.

Dumbest award out there.

Rush
10-19-2012, 12:24 PM
posey is getting the MVP this should have gone to someone else I think

Just because someone has a likelihood of getting an award doesn't mean they should be overlooked for another that they're qualified for.

Yankee Clipper
10-19-2012, 12:24 PM
Cool beans :clap:

RTL
10-19-2012, 12:28 PM
Who won last year?

Exactly.

Dumbest award out there.

Lance Berkman and Jacoby Ellsbury. People who follow baseball closely know things like that.

getfoul
10-19-2012, 12:37 PM
Lance Berkman and Jacoby Ellsbury. People who follow baseball closely know things like that.

Oh yeah, I know nothing about baseball.

:rolleyes:

RTL
10-19-2012, 12:59 PM
Oh yeah, I know nothing about baseball.

:rolleyes:

Never implied that. You were trying to make that point that its a dumb award because nobody remembers who won it the previous year. I simply made the point that people who pay close attention do in fact remember such things.

getfoul
10-19-2012, 01:04 PM
Never implied that. You were trying to make that point that its a dumb award because nobody remembers who won it the previous year. I simply made the point that people who pay close attention do in fact remember such things.

Ok.

I would guess over 95% of fans had no idea who won last year.

It's just one of those things that gets brought up throughout the season that I have no idea why people care about it. As a White Sox fan, the talk was Dunn, Rios, or Peavy. And I couldn't care less. It's a nothing award.

Havoc Wreaker
10-19-2012, 01:10 PM
Adam Dunn

:-(

Vixious
10-19-2012, 02:06 PM
It's just one of those things that gets brought up throughout the season that I have no idea why people care about it. As a White Sox fan, the talk was Dunn, Rios, or Peavy. And I couldn't care less. It's a nothing award.

Based on that mentality, all awards are nothing awards.

Jeffy25
10-19-2012, 02:35 PM
I hate when an injured player wins the CBOY award.

Adam Dunn was my choice in the AL, Lance Berkman last year.

Guys that CAME BACK to a previous level of performance. Not guys that missed due to injury.

If that's the case, was Wainwright in serious discussion here?

Jeffy25
10-19-2012, 02:36 PM
Ok.

I would guess over 95% of fans had no idea who won last year.


IIRC, Berkman and Ellsbury of last year.


now go find 19 other fans

getfoul
10-19-2012, 02:43 PM
Based on that mentality, all awards are nothing awards.

Not really. MVP, Cy Young, Rookie of the Year = real awards

Manager of the Year = Manager of the team that does better than expectations, and has little to do with being a good manager

Comeback Player of the Year = What? I don't care. Good for whoever came back from an injury or a high salary player who sucked but then had a good year. Just don't care.

Jeffy25
10-19-2012, 02:45 PM
Not really. MVP, Cy Young, Rookie of the Year = real awards

Manager of the Year = Manager of the team that does better than expectations, and has little to do with being a good manager

Comeback Player of the Year = What? I don't care. Good for whoever came back from an injury or a high salary player who sucked but then had a good year. Just don't care.

that's great that that is your feelings on the awards.


Realize that is not universally agreed upon though, and if you have a problem with this award not being a 'real award' then just don't post in this thread

rocket
10-19-2012, 02:48 PM
Austin Jackson got screwed. Do you guys realize how bad he was in 2011?

Havoc Wreaker
10-19-2012, 02:57 PM
Couldn't possibly been as bad as Dunn

Burkey3472
10-19-2012, 03:14 PM
There are usually so many good choices for this type of award I usually don't even argue.

natepro
10-19-2012, 03:31 PM
Not really. MVP, Cy Young, Rookie of the Year = real awards

Manager of the Year = Manager of the team that does better than expectations, and has little to do with being a good manager

Comeback Player of the Year = What? I don't care. Good for whoever came back from an injury or a high salary player who sucked but then had a good year. Just don't care.

You've wasted a lot of time talking about something you claim not to care about...

MetsFanatic19
10-19-2012, 03:38 PM
This award shouldn't go to players like Posey who got hurt or missed an entire season to injury. It's not like everybody thinks he had a crappy year in 2011 or anything.

UPRock
10-19-2012, 04:05 PM
Mariano Rivera's best season ever: 4-2, 53 saves, 66 Ks, 1.94 ERA, 1.08 WHIP
Dennis Eckersley's best season ever: 7-1, 51 saves, 93 Ks, 1.91 ERA, 0.93 WHIP
Fernando Rodney: 2-2, 48 saves, 76 Ks, 0.60 ERA, 0.77 WHIP

Rodney also set the record for lowest ERA in a single season. Statistically, he just had the best season ever for a closer, I'd say he deserves comeback player of the year considering last year he had a 4.50 era and 3 saves in 39 games.

Holy ****, that's one big improvement.

natepro
10-19-2012, 04:06 PM
I kind of hate Fernando Rodney.

Twitchy
10-19-2012, 04:52 PM
I'm confused why Rodney got the award. He hasn't been good since 2006 before this season. It's not like he was injured.

He had a fantastic season but I wouldn't say he's really a comeback player.

Wouldn't Andy Pettite have been the ideal candidate? He took a whole damn year off, he's the definition of comeback player lol.

ShinobiNYC
10-19-2012, 08:04 PM
Mariano Rivera's best season ever: 4-2, 53 saves, 66 Ks, 1.94 ERA, 1.08 WHIP
Dennis Eckersley's best season ever: 7-1, 51 saves, 93 Ks, 1.91 ERA, 0.93 WHIP
Fernando Rodney: 2-2, 48 saves, 76 Ks, 0.60 ERA, 0.77 WHIP

Rodney also set the record for lowest ERA in a single season. Statistically, he just had the best season ever for a closer, I'd say he deserves comeback player of the year considering last year he had a 4.50 era and 3 saves in 39 games.

That's not Mo's best season ever, it's his 2008 one:

39 saves, 1.40 ERA, 0.66 WHIP, 6 BB / 77 Ks

Farsight
10-19-2012, 08:17 PM
I honestly believed that Alex Rios should have been the comeback player for the AL, and Aaron Hill for the NL. They both had really good seasons again, after both being completely terrible the year prior. Two players the jays probably wished they had back

Leandres_sf
10-20-2012, 12:34 PM
Why should a guy coming off a crappy season win Comeback Player of the Year over a guy bouncing back from injury?!?

lol, please
10-20-2012, 01:46 PM
Not really. MVP, Cy Young, Rookie of the Year = real awards

Manager of the Year = Manager of the team that does better than expectations, and has little to do with being a good manager

Comeback Player of the Year = What? I don't care. Good for whoever came back from an injury or a high salary player who sucked but then had a good year. Just don't care.

These are only your opinions. They are nothing awards to you.




Congrats Posey!

Nomar
10-20-2012, 04:27 PM
If the injury isnt career threatening theres usually no reason he shouldnt be able to come back. I wasnt surprised Posey did great this year.

Driven
10-20-2012, 04:57 PM
I really cannot figure out how Fernando Rodney put together the season that he did.

Eg714
10-20-2012, 05:03 PM
I really cannot figure out how Fernando Rodney put together the season that he did.

How bout steroids? I hate this chump. All he did for the angels was lose games , then he switches teams and has one of the best season ever for a closer.

I'm just mad, it seems like he didn't even try when he was on my team. He probably didn't even take roids just had a really good pitching coach.

Driven
10-20-2012, 05:09 PM
How bout steroids? I hate this chump. All he did for the angels was lose games , then he switches teams and has one of the best season ever for a closer.

I'm just mad, it seems like he didn't even try when he was on my team. He probably didn't even take roids just had a really good pitching coach.
And a lot of luck. All players have odd seasons. But this one was just to such of an extreme.

quade36
10-21-2012, 10:59 AM
I too was thinking Alex Rios deserved the come back player award. Though relievers are important, I think the closer role is the least important role in baseball. Who cares how many saves that person has. They are just as important as someone who comes in the 7th or 8th innings.

Also, since WAR is the big stat of value now. Rodney 2.4, Rios 4.3. Last year Rodney -0.2, Rios -0.8. Rios comeback was bigger for his team than Rodney's.

Finally, Where exactly the Rodney comeback from? He had the single best year of his career, before this year never having a WAR above 0.7. Rios in the past has had several seasons where his WAR was above 5. I think if the award was most improved maybe you can give it to Rodney, that being said I still think Rios improved greater. But this is comeback player of the year. Rodney had a career year. Shouldn't have gotten comeback player.