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Lisound15
10-15-2012, 03:33 PM
So I just received the October 29th edition of ESPN Magazine and they did a whole article predicting the 2012 NBA seasons. I figured I'd share this so everyone here can have a good laugh

EAST
#1 Miami 60.7-21.3
#2 Atlanta 50.5-31.5
#3 New York 49.4-32.6
#4 Boston 48.9-33.1
#5 Philadelphia 47.5-34.5
#6 Chicago 47-35
#7 Brooklyn 44.4-37.6
#8 Indiana 44.4-37.6

WEST
#1 Denver 58.2-23.8
#2 Oklahoma City 58.1-23.9
#3 Minnesota 57.9-24.1
#4 Los Angeles (Lakers) 57.5-24.5
#5 San Antonio 55.9-26.1
#6 Los Angeles (Clippers) 51.6-30.4
#7 Utah 46.7-35.3
#8 Memphis 45.7-36.3

Even funnier...
Cleveland, Golden State and Washington have a 0% chance of making the playoffs according to ESPN

SteBO
10-15-2012, 03:34 PM
llullz

KnicksorBust
10-15-2012, 03:36 PM
I love the gutsy Minny prediction. The ATL one is the most ridiculous by far. I don't even understand how that's possible.

BigBlueCrew
10-15-2012, 03:38 PM
I guess DoMeFavors is gonna cancel his ESPN subscription.

nycericanguy
10-15-2012, 03:38 PM
MIN is the only real crazy one to me there, not because they are a bad team but because theres no way they win 57 games with Rubio out so long. They are not there yet.

ATL isn't such a crazy pick. They were the #5 seed last year without Hortford. They get him back this year. Sure they lost JJ, but they also gained Lou Will, Korver, Morrow & Harris. They now have 2 of the deadliest 3 point shooters in the NBA.

DEN at #1 isn't crazy either. The young guys on that team will only get better, and they are crazy deep. I don't think they can beat LAL or OKC come playoff time, but regular season wise they could challenge 58 wins.

Ebbs
10-15-2012, 03:57 PM
If Nuggets finish top 3 I will be completely shocked.

teddygreen17
10-15-2012, 04:02 PM
Thats a complete joke right?

ThunderousDemon
10-15-2012, 04:04 PM
Minnesota ahead of the Lakers, Spurs, and Clippers is comical.

Baller1
10-15-2012, 04:09 PM
These are pretty brutal. No disrespect to Denver, but I give them a 0% chance of finishing with the #1 seed. I can see them possibly getting HCA for the first round, but not #1.

JNoel
10-15-2012, 04:09 PM
I don't see the Hawks making the playoffs. That being said, these aren't as crazy as everyone says they are, when you think outside the box, most of these make sense except for leaving those respective teams out the playoffs...

asandhu23
10-15-2012, 04:09 PM
I love the gutsy Minny prediction. The ATL one is the most ridiculous by far. I don't even understand how that's possible.

not gutsy at all. they have Minnesota there just to show they are thinking outside the box. they know they don't have a diddly chance in hell to win championship.

LAKERMANIA
10-15-2012, 04:12 PM
Awful awful list

Ill21
10-15-2012, 04:20 PM
Espn did it for the llullz

StarvingKnick22
10-15-2012, 04:37 PM
So basically, they change the list, every 3 weeks.

*Silver&Black*
10-15-2012, 04:40 PM
Hawks have a much deeper team than in year's past. Lou Williams, Devin Harris, Korver and rookie Jenkins comes in, JJ (and scrubs) goes out. I don't understand the hate. Oh, we lost Marvin, we are going to suck now.

Im_in_Mia_bish
10-15-2012, 04:44 PM
Boston wayy underrated

xcrisisx
10-15-2012, 04:47 PM
Hawks have a much deeper team than in year's past. Lou Williams, Devin Harris, Korver and rookie Jenkins comes in, JJ (and scrubs) goes out. I don't understand the hate. Oh, we lost Marvin, we are going to suck now.

not hating
it's just ... the'll compete for the 7th,8th spot, but 2?:facepalm:

Im_in_Mia_bish
10-15-2012, 04:58 PM
not hating
it's just ... the'll compete for the 7th,8th spot, but 2?:facepalm:

7th or 8th? Wtf lol no.

Def not 2, top 5 def. 5-6 IMO.

Utd7
10-15-2012, 05:16 PM
ESPN did it for ***** and giggles

IndyRealist
10-15-2012, 05:27 PM
Does anyone see Indiana finishing 8th? Unless something ridiculous happens to the EC non-playoff teams, more than one team in the East will finish over 50 wins.

As fast as the West goes, let's realize that the difference in ranking between #1-#4 is less than 1 game. Even if these predictions are accurate, which they're probably not, the NBA doesn't play half games so any of those teams could end up #1.

bholly
10-15-2012, 05:54 PM
How did they determine the records? Looks like averages of multiple peoples' picks, so if there were just a handful of them maybe just an Atlanta and Minny homer or two were enough to skew the picks? And someone who hates Indy?
Super weird picks.

bholly
10-15-2012, 05:55 PM
Having said that, every time there are non-crazy picks people criticize them for not being outside the box enough, saying they aren't experts if they just pick the obvious ones (huge lol) - so maybe they took that on board and decided to make some out-there picks?

BALLER R
10-15-2012, 05:57 PM
Pacers an 8th seed. No way I see them falling that low.

Im_in_Mia_bish
10-15-2012, 06:03 PM
pacers 4-6 imo. depending on how bad the knicks are

Burkey3472
10-15-2012, 06:14 PM
The Hawks at 2 are laughable. I know they are deeper now but I see them in the 5-8 range. Denver should have a good season but I can't see them the number 1 seed. I can see them top 3 cause of their depth but I still wouldn't bet on that. I like the moves Minny has made too but 3 is a reach. IMO they need Roy to be what he was 4-5 years ago to win close to 60 games.

Strumpy
10-15-2012, 06:18 PM
Once again PSD is foolled, and the talking heads didn't read the entire first post.
OP for troll of the year. :clap:

Hawkeye15
10-15-2012, 06:30 PM
Did they do this the same they did the football one, by going game by game?

Anyways, um, as much as I think the Wolves are improved, I set the best case scenario win total at 54, and no team reaches their best case scenario with that many injury concerns. The Hawks pick is ridiculous to me, and having Indiana that low in the standings it not correct either.

I do think Denver has a shot to be one of the top 2-3 teams with the depth and style they play, but come playoff time, I don't give them much of a chance.

bholly
10-15-2012, 06:45 PM
Once again PSD is foolled, and the talking heads didn't read the entire first post.
OP for troll of the year. :clap:

I don't get it. What do you think we all missed?

thechom80
10-15-2012, 06:51 PM
I would love for the Wolves to grab a 3 seed, but we know that won't happen. Even with a 100% healthy Rubio to start the season and no health issues on going for guys like Roy and AK, a 5th seed would probably be the ceiling right now. Stranger things have happened, I guess.

topdog
10-15-2012, 07:11 PM
What is the methodology here? It sure looks like averages because I think a lot of analysts see the bottom teams as the most steady i.e. there was greater agreement on a record range versus the higher teams are more volatile and have greater potential for a high or a low.

JNA17
10-15-2012, 07:13 PM
Atlanta is hardly even a playoff team anymore lettle alone a 2nd seed team. My god this list is horrible.

And what the hell is up with the love fare for Denver from ESPN? Their a 4th seed team at best my god.

T-Wolves is the second worst picked (Hawks being the 1st). I'm interested in that team but only as a potential playoff contender, not better then the freaking spurs, clippers and lakers.

But ah well just Fox Ne- I mean ESPN being attention whores as usual.

Knicks21
10-15-2012, 07:17 PM
Atlanta is hardly even a playoff team anymore lettle alone a 2nd seed team. My god this list is horrible.

And what the hell is up with the love fare for Denver from ESPN? Their a 4th seed team at best my god.

T-Wolves is the second worst picked (Hawks being the 1st). I'm interested in that team but only as a potential playoff contender, not better then the freaking spurs, clippers and lakers.

But ah well just Fox Ne- I mean ESPN being attention whores as usual.

Denver are built for the regular season, I could see something close to this happening to be honest.

JNA17
10-15-2012, 07:28 PM
Denver are built for the regular season

Would you people stop copying what BSPN (or even worse, John Hollinger) says and make up thoughts of your own?

That seems to be the new buzz words "built for regular season". No, their not built enough to be a #1 freaking seed in the west. So what's the Heat? Are they somehow built for the playoffs AND the regular season? Why not the Knicks or freaking Atlanta apparently at #1 seed in the east? They seem "more build for the regular season" to me.

Hawkeye15
10-15-2012, 07:34 PM
Would you people stop copying what BSPN (or even worse, John Hollinger) says and make up thoughts of your own?

That seems to be the new buzz words "built for regular season". No, their not built enough to be a #1 freaking seed in the west. So what's the Heat? Are they somehow built for the playoffs AND the regular season? Why not the Knicks or freaking Atlanta apparently at #1 seed in the east? They seem "more build for the regular season" to me.

They play at a monster pace, and have 42 home games in the thin air. They feature more depth than most, if not all, teams in the NBA. They will simply run teams off the floor many nights. They are a top 3 team out west in the REGULAR season, book it.

topdog
10-15-2012, 07:37 PM
Would you people stop copying what BSPN (or even worse, John Hollinger) says and make up thoughts of your own?

That seems to be the new buzz words "built for regular season". No, their not built enough to be a #1 freaking seed in the west. So what's the Heat? Are they somehow built for the playoffs AND the regular season? Why not the Knicks or freaking Atlanta apparently at #1 seed in the east? They seem "more build for the regular season" to me.

It's a legitimate argument that some teams are better built for the regular season and those are often teams with depth. The Spurs have come to the point where they are probably more of a regular season wonder and an alright playoff team.

The Heat have 3 arguably top 15 players including the best player in the league all of which have stayed relatively healthy and they are surrounded by quality 3pt shooters. That makes them tough to play at any point during the year because only 2 have to have a good game most nights and if the shooting is on only one needs to really do anything. So, yes, the Heat are built to win, period.

Knicks have to prove that they can get over chemistry issues. Melo and Amaré simply did not work last year. Atlanta is paired down a bit and it will be interesting to see how they fair in an offense geared more towards the interior (with shooting role players outside).

Frozenred
10-15-2012, 07:43 PM
This is a joke?

Aleksandar
10-15-2012, 08:06 PM
Extremely unorthodox predictions. Was this actually sportswriters work?

raiderposting
10-15-2012, 08:11 PM
hopefully a celtics heat ecf happens. I think the celtics can make another deep *** playoff run and i can see them beating the heat.

KnicksR4Real
10-15-2012, 08:28 PM
basically, its a joke. lol some people be thinking that

DR_1
10-15-2012, 08:35 PM
Well Chris Broussard is involved with this so I'm not surprised at the total stupidity of their predictions :facepalm:

ugafan
10-15-2012, 09:15 PM
Still don't know how anybody can possibly think the Hawks miss the playoffs.

xxplayerxx23
10-15-2012, 09:16 PM
East
1-Miami
2-Boston
3-Indy
4-Knicks
5-Philly
6-Nets
7-Bulls
8-Raps/Hawks

West
1-OKC
2-LA
3-Denver
4-Spurs
5-Clippers
6-Grizz
7-Twolves
8-GSW

amos1er
10-15-2012, 09:18 PM
LMAO at these predictions. :laugh2::laugh2::laugh2: Anyways, here are mine:

East

1. Miami 58-25
2. New York 54-28
3. Boston 52-30
4. Chicago 51-31
5. Atlanta 48-34
6. Indiana 45-37
7. Brooklyn 44-38
8. Philadelphia 41-41

West

1. Lakers 62-20
2. OKC 59-23
3. San Antonio 58-24
4. Clippers 56-26
5. Denver 52-30
6. Memphis 48-34
7. Minnesota 46-35
8. Utah 44-37

xxplayerxx23
10-15-2012, 09:24 PM
Im not a huge Utah fan but I like those ^ Im a big GSW guy I think Barnes is ganna be a stud. :)

Hawkeye15
10-15-2012, 09:30 PM
LMAO at these predictions. :laugh2::laugh2::laugh2: Anyways, here are mine:

East

1. Miami 58-24
2. New York 54-27
3. Boston 52-29
4. Chicago 51-30
5. Atlanta 48-33
6. Indiana 45-36
7. Brooklyn 44-37
8. Philadelphia 41-40

West

1. Lakers 62-19
2. OKC 59-22
3. San Antonio 58-23
4. Clippers 56-25
5. Denver 52-29
6. Memphis 48-33
7. Minnesota 46-34
8. Utah 44-36

Totally. A team coming off a ring, with chemistry and in an easier conference won't win as many games as the Lakers, in a tougher conference, needing to develop chemistry.

topdog
10-15-2012, 09:37 PM
LMAO at these predictions. :laugh2::laugh2::laugh2: Anyways, here are mine:

East

1. Miami 58-24
2. New York 54-27
3. Boston 52-29
4. Chicago 51-30
5. Atlanta 48-33
6. Indiana 45-36
7. Brooklyn 44-37
8. Philadelphia 41-40

West

1. Lakers 62-19
2. OKC 59-22
3. San Antonio 58-23
4. Clippers 56-25
5. Denver 52-29
6. Memphis 48-33
7. Minnesota 46-34
8. Utah 44-36


Totally. A team coming off a ring, with chemistry and in an easier conference won't win as many games as the Lakers, in a tougher conference, needing to develop chemistry.

Not only that, but a team which didn't get it last year and has a bunch of fresh-faced old-timers is going to win just 4 fewer games than the defending champs... after one of their game mysteriously disappears into thin air :eyebrow:

Apparently, teams will be playing between 80 and 82 games this year.

amos1er
10-15-2012, 09:55 PM
Not only that, but a team which didn't get it last year and has a bunch of fresh-faced old-timers is going to win just 4 fewer games than the defending champs... after one of their game mysteriously disappears into thin air :eyebrow:

Apparently, teams will be playing between 80 and 82 games this year.

Ahhhhh....is someone a little butthurt because I didn't overrate Minny like BSPN did and pick them to be the 3 seed. :rolleyes:

Talk about criticizing me for picking the Nicks to get the 2 seed when you actually expect Minny to be a top 5 seed after failing to make the playoffs and making no significant changes to their roster.

Oh and thanks for pointing out my little math mistake there professor. :up:

amos1er
10-15-2012, 10:05 PM
Totally. A team coming off a ring, with chemistry and in an easier conference won't win as many games as the Lakers, in a tougher conference, needing to develop chemistry.

Thats why is called a personal prediction buddy. It's based off my personal opinion. I'll wager you a sig bet that my predictions end up being more accurate than this BSPN article if you really want to test me. Miami has never performed great in the past two regular seasons. Why would they now all of the sudden?

Hawkeye15
10-15-2012, 10:06 PM
Ahhhhh....is someone a little butthurt because I didn't overrate Minny like BSPN did and pick them to be the 2 seed. :rolleyes:

Talk about criticizing me for picking the Nicks to get the 2 seed when you actually expect Minny to be a top 5 seed after failing to make the playoffs and making no significant changes to their roster.

Oh and thanks for pointing out my little math mistake there professor. :up:

I can assure you nobody is butthurt here but you, but nice attempted stab at a Wolves fan......

You overreacted. You think the Lakers will win 62, with Dwight coming off back surgery, zip depth, and a team in need of chemistry. Remember when that team you despise, Miami, got together in year 1? They lost a lot of games while trying to figure everything out. Yet, you, think that team, which figured everything out, while adding shooters and losing nothing, in a soft conference, will somehow not win as many games as your boys, who are in a much more difficult conference, while adjusting to playing with each other for the first month or so.

I await your lengthly homer post.

Hawkeye15
10-15-2012, 10:07 PM
Thats why is called a personal prediction buddy. It's based off my personal opinion. I'll wager you a sig bet that my predictions end up being more accurate than this BSPN article if you really want to test me. Miami has never performed great in the past two regular seasons. Why would they now all of the sudden?

I don't sig bet with homers. Miami plays in the east, and is a well oiled machine. Barring injuries, there is no way I would bet the Lakers have more wins in the regular season. None.

Zefflin
10-15-2012, 10:08 PM
Awful, just an awful list, not surprising tho what with the source and all..

amos1er
10-15-2012, 10:11 PM
I don't sig bet with homers. Miami plays in the east, and is a well oiled machine. Barring injuries, there is no way I would bet the Lakers have more wins in the regular season. None.

If you are so confident than why not sig bet me?

I'm game to bet with a hater, if your down to bet with a homer.

LakersA's49ers
10-15-2012, 10:17 PM
thats simply not a good list

Sactown
10-15-2012, 10:18 PM
Can someone please explain how the Kings aren't going to be a 50 plus win team this season... I'm waiting.... :eyebrow:


Don't give me that look either Hawkeye I'm not trolling I promise!

JNoel
10-15-2012, 11:24 PM
The Kings are too young, they've still got some growing to do before they can be considered a 50 win team.

xcrisisx
10-16-2012, 04:20 AM
Can someone please explain how the Kings aren't going to be a 50 plus win team this season... I'm waiting.... :eyebrow:


Don't give me that look either Hawkeye I'm not trolling I promise!

the kings are young and talented but they don't complement each other well,
and the most of their talent plays backcoart.
Cousins and tyreke need to have breakout seasons to even compete for the 8the spot.
they'll have between 30-40 wins

thenaj17
10-16-2012, 04:41 AM
Hawks have a much deeper team than in year's past. Lou Williams, Devin Harris, Korver and rookie Jenkins comes in, JJ (and scrubs) goes out. I don't understand the hate. Oh, we lost Marvin, we are going to suck now.

You still have a decent team but more likely 5th-6th seed. Maybe 4th if you go on a good run and stay injury free.

thenaj17
10-16-2012, 04:44 AM
If you are so confident than why not sig bet me?

I'm game to bet with a hater, if your down to bet with a homer.

Sorry Amos1er but got to agree with hawkeye here. More due to conference they are in and the Lakers ageing than talent.

thenaj17
10-16-2012, 04:49 AM
Timberwolves have added 2 quality players in Roy and Kirilenko, who is being badly overlooked by the majority. Just a shame Rubio is injured for the start otherwise this team would be a lock for playoffs in my eyes. I can see them squeezing 6th-7th if they stay clear of injuries. The talent is there!

Knicks21
10-16-2012, 04:49 AM
I don't sig bet with homers. Miami plays in the east, and is a well oiled machine. Barring injuries, there is no way I would bet the Lakers have more wins in the regular season. None.

How can you not see it as being a possibility?

nothappyinut
10-16-2012, 09:16 AM
Utah will be the 4th seed out west. Mark it down

Nycbball08
10-16-2012, 10:03 AM
Indiana 8th wow ...

Nycbball08
10-16-2012, 10:14 AM
Not only that, but a team which didn't get it last year and has a bunch of fresh-faced old-timers is going to win just 4 fewer games than the defending champs... after one of their game mysteriously disappears into thin air :eyebrow:

Apparently, teams will be playing between 80 and 82 games this year.

It all depends on health and chemistry my friend...look outside the box.

Muttman73
10-16-2012, 10:31 AM
Espn ... Lol

Hawkeye15
10-16-2012, 01:02 PM
How can you not see it as being a possibility?

If Miami suffers injuries, its a possibility. Again, Dwight hasn't played basketball in a long time, they need to develop chemistry, Kobe needs to change his style of play, and they can't afford any injuries to their big 4, with that depth. In a first year where 2 new stars are coming in, the offense is changing, and their star center will enter the season very rusty, in the tougher conference, that just doesn't spell 62 wins to me, or being the best REGULAR season team.

Hawkeye15
10-16-2012, 01:03 PM
If you are so confident than why not sig bet me?

I'm game to bet with a hater, if your down to bet with a homer.

Like I said, sig bets are not my thing. And I would never enter a sig bet with a Laker fan, I couldn't bear to see anything Laker in my sig.

Hater? haha, I am getting used to being called that by the irrational here.

topdog
10-16-2012, 05:26 PM
Ahhhhh....is someone a little butthurt because I didn't overrate Minny like BSPN did and pick them to be the 3 seed. :rolleyes:

Talk about criticizing me for picking the Nicks to get the 2 seed when you actually expect Minny to be a top 5 seed after failing to make the playoffs and making no significant changes to their roster.

Oh and thanks for pointing out my little math mistake there professor. :up:

Classic Homer/Troll Test:
-Does the poster in question go off topic to attack the poster's team? Check
-Does the poster in question use terms like "hater" and "butthurt?" Check
-Does the poster in question attempt to belittle his opponent when his own ignorance is exposed? Check
-Does the poster in question not know basic NBA facts like how to spell a team's name? Check
-Does the poster in question have irrational delusions of grandeur about their team? Check

1. I'm happy simply to see that most outlets/fans regard the Wolves as a playoff team this year.
2. Objectively, the Knicks have a long way to go to put it all together, nonetheless, I do think they'll make the playoffs as a lower seed.
3. It's "Knicks" short for Knickerbockers http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/knickerbockers?s=t

ColtsSpursTerps
10-16-2012, 06:12 PM
wat

ColtsSpursTerps
10-16-2012, 06:18 PM
Classic Homer/Troll Test:
-Does the poster in question go off topic to attack the poster's team? Check
-Does the poster in question use terms like "hater" and "butthurt?" Check
-Does the poster in question attempt to belittle his opponent when his own ignorance is exposed? Check
-Does the poster in question not know basic NBA facts like how to spell a team's name? Check
-Does the poster in question have irrational delusions of grandeur about their team? Check

1. I'm happy simply to see that most outlets/fans regard the Wolves as a playoff team this year.
2. Objectively, the Knicks have a long way to go to put it all together, nonetheless, I do think they'll make the playoffs as a lower seed.
3. It's "Knicks" short for Knickerbockers http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/knickerbockers?s=t

haha i like the idea but someones gonna get you one time with

-Does the poster douchingly attack typos when you gotta assume he knows how to spell knicks (i didnt look through his posts, maybe you've seen him misspell it a few times)
-Does the poster put some stupid obvious link to a teams dictionary.com website?

that said idk what the deal with the TWolve love is, they havent done sh*tt

JasonJohnHorn
10-16-2012, 08:37 PM
This is so fawked up.