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yellowblanket
09-30-2012, 06:32 PM
Hi there, i'm a long time lurker, first time poster.
Just read this today http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/ian_thomsen/09/28/nba-flopping-david-stern/index.html?hpt=hp_t3

Curious about others opinion on the matter and do you think it would work well? i wonder how severe the punishment maybe

Iron24th
09-30-2012, 06:36 PM
First, welcome to PSD.

Then, if they call it fairly, clippers (flop city) are in big trouble.

TheNumber37
09-30-2012, 07:06 PM
Fine per flop. And a certain amount of flops per season or series equals game suspension.
5 flops, 2 games. 3 flops in a series, 1 game.

Ill21
09-30-2012, 07:11 PM
Pau Gasol should just retire then

Bigbadmoffo
09-30-2012, 07:39 PM
No fair!! Miami won't even have a team if they do this!

airforceones25
09-30-2012, 08:05 PM
First, welcome to PSD.

Then, if they call it fairly, clippers (flop city) are in big trouble.

Nash and Gasol will represent the Lakers nicely!

Baller1
09-30-2012, 08:31 PM
Fine per flop. And a certain amount of flops per season or series equals game suspension.
5 flops, 2 games. 3 flops in a series, 1 game.

Fines, sure.

Suspensions would be ridiculous in my opinion.

Longhornfan1234
09-30-2012, 08:34 PM
Wade's production will drop.

ldawg
09-30-2012, 09:05 PM
Wade is the undisputed King of flop. Last year him and Lebron got away with so many flops it was insane. It was the talk and down right embarrassing. I mean they were playing for fouls all the time. The NBA had no choice they had to do something about it. These guy would run into you flick their head and roll on the ground. I saw a play wade went to the basket watch it roll of the rim and suddenly fell to the ground like he got shot and the stupid ref call a foul.

heyman321
09-30-2012, 09:42 PM
Bad for harden and CP360.

Piercefan34
09-30-2012, 09:43 PM
Wade is the undisputed King of flop. Last year him and Lebron got away with so many flops it was insane. It was the talk and down right embarrassing. I mean they were playing for fouls all the time. The NBA had no choice they had to do something about it. These guy would run into you flick their head and roll on the ground. I saw a play wade went to the basket watch it roll of the rim and suddenly fell to the ground like he got shot and the stupid ref call a foul.

it really is sickening to watch. got away with so much in the playoffs too. the ones against the C's and NY were egregious.

jerellh528
09-30-2012, 10:22 PM
this doesn't bode well for wade.

BKLYNpigeon
09-30-2012, 10:41 PM
there goes half of your game CP3.

bholly
09-30-2012, 10:50 PM
An actual topic that warrants discussion, and there are two real responses, and 11 of the same dumb homer bait joke. Great.

Dankster
09-30-2012, 10:54 PM
The Vlade Divac rule, nice. At least they're trying to do something about it now which is great to hear. But there's always a certain level of subjectivity when it comes to floppers, especially with the really good "actors." I hope the refs are able to catch them and penalize them accordingly.

They've been doing it in soccer for a while now and it's awesome to see it's finally crossing over into the NBA.

IndyRealist
09-30-2012, 10:58 PM
Flops should be reviewed in replay and assessed a technical foul...for their next game. That means if they get T'd up the next game they are automatically ejected. If they flop twice in the same game, they are suspended their next game. This is cumulative with other technical fouls, so after a certain total they miss games as well. A fine means nothing to Lebron James. You have to make him miss games for him to stop.

da ThRONe
09-30-2012, 11:05 PM
There shouldn't be a rule against flopping. Refs should just stop rewarding players for flopping. It's not like the majority of the flops aren't super obvious. Guys that are 6'6 235 all muscle falling like they are a house of cards shouldn't fool anybody.

bholly
09-30-2012, 11:10 PM
There shouldn't be a rule against flopping. Refs should just stop rewarding players for flopping. It's not like the majority of the flops aren't super obvious. Guys that are 6'6 235 all muscle falling like they are a house of cards shouldn't fool anybody.

This will probably help with that, I think. If the refs know there's going to be more discussion, and league scrutiny, and media and fan scrutiny of possible flops, they're going to be more likely to see them as flops and not reward them - because they don't want to give a guy a call that's going to get publicly shown to be stupid later. At least I hope.

likemystylez
09-30-2012, 11:19 PM
Nash and Gasol will represent the Lakers nicely!

I have a feeling players like nash are still gonna get the bennefit of the doubt.

Personally- I think if a player is in a position where he could challenge the shot but opts to just undercut/ flop.... it should eb called a foul on the defense every single time.

A charge should be like after an offensive rebound where an interrior player has no chance to even react and he just gets ran over.

but a charge call should happen around the league maybe 2 or 3 times a week. the rest should be blocking fouls..... it will encourage players to play real defense

Teufelshunde4
09-30-2012, 11:30 PM
I have a feeling players like nash are still gonna get the bennefit of the doubt.

Personally- I think if a player is in a position where he could challenge the shot but opts to just undercut/ flop.... it should eb called a foul on the defense every single time.

A charge should be like after an offensive rebound where an interrior player has no chance to even react and he just gets ran over.

but a charge call should happen around the league maybe 2 or 3 times a week. the rest should be blocking fouls..... it will encourage players to play real defense


While the league needs to do something about the flopping. Calling everything blocking will do nothing, but create free throw contests. Everyone will drive and look for foul calls.
There is no easy answer here for calling flopping.. Most times only slow motion replay can show that a player flopped.
IMO the real problem is the lack of contact allowed in today's game allows players to flop when even the hint of contact by an offensive player.
If you want to encourage players to play D then dont severely restrict their ability to move around the court and have contact with offensive players.

Sinattle
09-30-2012, 11:42 PM
The Clippers won't make the playoffs :D

IndyRealist
09-30-2012, 11:51 PM
While the league needs to do something about the flopping. Calling everything blocking will do nothing, but create free throw contests. Everyone will drive and look for foul calls.
There is no easy answer here for calling flopping.. Most times only slow motion replay can show that a player flopped.
IMO the real problem is the lack of contact allowed in today's game allows players to flop when even the hint of contact by an offensive player.
If you want to encourage players to play D then dont severely restrict their ability to move around the court and have contact with offensive players.

Exactly. Flopping is a direct response by defenders to the NBA removing their ability to defend wing players. Want to fix flopping? Reinstate hand checking.

Stuckey#3
09-30-2012, 11:51 PM
If this new rule was retroactive Manu would be bankrupt.

yellowblanket
10-01-2012, 12:00 AM
An actual topic that warrants discussion, and there are two real responses, and 11 of the same dumb homer bait joke. Great.

thanks you.
on to topic, i think suspension would be overboard. Fines are ideal but would it be varies since most nba players dont make the same salary

NYSpirit1
10-01-2012, 12:15 AM
Miami will probably lose a few extra games if they quit the flopping. Wade, LeBron and Bosh do it all game long. At least the NBA decided to put a stop to it.

I can honestly say, watching every Knicks game, thankfully I do not see any players on my team flopping.

Evolution23
10-01-2012, 12:16 AM
Nets are in trouble

Evolution23
10-01-2012, 12:17 AM
Miami will probably lose a few extra games if they quit the flopping. Wade, LeBron and Bosh do it all game long. At least the NBA decided to put a stop to it.

I can honestly say, watching every Knicks game, thankfully I do not see any players on my team flopping.

that's becasue players in NY are just tougher and they have larger cojones.

ewmania
10-01-2012, 12:22 AM
lol im not a fan of the flopping but I never understood why they punish players for professional refs getting fooled lol

is it lebron's fault the refs fall for what he does?

NYKnicksAllDay
10-01-2012, 12:24 AM
Miami will probably lose a few extra games if they quit the flopping. Wade, LeBron and Bosh do it all game long. At least the NBA decided to put a stop to it.

I can honestly say, watching every Knicks game, thankfully I do not see any players on my team flopping.

:horse:

pedrofan45
10-01-2012, 12:44 AM
Haha funny that every poster makes fun of a different person... EVERYONE FLOPS people, we just need to fine them so they stop

Iron24th
10-01-2012, 03:59 AM
Nash and Gasol will represent the Lakers nicely!

Paul,Griffin,Billups,Butler,Odom...oh wait your whole team will be represented nicely!

Randy West
10-01-2012, 04:23 AM
How is the ref going to be able to decide if the player used enough force to knock a guy back and if he didn't?

Some of them are pretty obvious but to someones point earlier a 6'6 235 pound player is always going to loose to a 6'6 235 pound player with the most inertia or forward momentum. The object in motion is always going to have more force than a stationary object all other things being equal.

I thought you were supposed to be able to cleanly elevate above the defender to get you're shot off. Not bash into him and knock him back so you can get you're shot off. Now the offensive player gets to create the contact, knock the defender back so he can clear space can the shot and the defender somehow gets called for flopping??

Puts a lot of pressure on the defender and not much pressure on the offensive player imo.

ldawg
10-01-2012, 05:38 AM
The Vlade Divac rule, nice. At least they're trying to do something about it now which is great to hear. But there's always a certain level of subjectivity when it comes to floppers, especially with the really good "actors." I hope the refs are able to catch them and penalize them accordingly.

They've been doing it in soccer for a while now and it's awesome to see it's finally crossing over into the NBA.If you build a reputation for flopping you will be on that list. If on that list you are not going to get the benefit of a call its will more likely go the other way if its not clear. They will review games and fines will be handed out. Its not going to be easy because some players are just trying to sell a foul but then you got other playing for the foul. Example Wade,Lebron,cp3 run at you flick their head and role. Its a difference between selling a foul and flopping. Some are even falling before the contact. Its about time they did something all that falling into people not only ruin the game causes injuries too.

R. Johnson#3
10-01-2012, 06:11 AM
Hey look! It's the "Call out the players from your most hated team" thread.

I'm curious to see how this works. I think they should have started with an automatic 2 free throws whether you're on offense or defense, in the penalty or not and possession after the 2 shots. Make it hurt the whole team and not just one player with a fine. I think that would be most effective.

ldawg
10-01-2012, 06:23 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1LPnXrcreg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=mBFo-34hRdM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=JrBR_KPWVtE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwp&v=ktJ8S-PJGEQ&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sp3JlI60M8A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=VXDv-_tVbTY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwp&NR=1&v=W-9VOWbbRb4

LakersIn5
10-01-2012, 06:44 AM
doesnt matter. flopping is irrelevant. with or without flopping miami would still win last season and bobcats would still suck. at the end of the day talent still prevails.

thawv
10-01-2012, 07:29 AM
Sounds good, but I don't believe anything will change. It has to be called on the floor, so the flopper and his team don't get rewarded on the spot. Also, if the league wants to stop flopping, the REFS need to held accountable, and punished. The players only do it cuz the refs allow it. It has to start with the refs, not the players.

thawv
10-01-2012, 07:37 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1LPnXrcreg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=mBFo-34hRdM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=JrBR_KPWVtE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwp&v=ktJ8S-PJGEQ&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sp3JlI60M8A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=VXDv-_tVbTY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwp&NR=1&v=W-9VOWbbRb4

Funny stuff..........but honestly? It pisses me off to watch this. The REFS are at fault. Not the players. This is just one of the reason I don't watch the NBA anymore.

xcrisisx
10-01-2012, 09:32 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1LPnXrcreg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=mBFo-34hRdM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=JrBR_KPWVtE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwp&v=ktJ8S-PJGEQ&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sp3JlI60M8A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=VXDv-_tVbTY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwp&NR=1&v=W-9VOWbbRb4


it takes shine of the title for sure :facepalm:

Da Knicks
10-01-2012, 10:13 AM
I have a feeling players like nash are still gonna get the bennefit of the doubt.

Personally- I think if a player is in a position where he could challenge the shot but opts to just undercut/ flop.... it should eb called a foul on the defense every single time.

A charge should be like after an offensive rebound where an interrior player has no chance to even react and he just gets ran over.

but a charge call should happen around the league maybe 2 or 3 times a week. the rest should be blocking fouls..... it will encourage players to play real defense

Like your thinking, charges and flops are the worst thing in the nba atm...

airforceones25
10-01-2012, 11:59 AM
Paul,Griffin,Billups,Butler,Odom...oh wait your whole team will be represented nicely!

kobe:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKuKCst6wms

gasol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjRizobEQig

metta:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2s6T4xrTo0

jamison:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTkTv3t4-rE

nash:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnSxGriD6GA

blake:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSJHb7vNihI


...... i'm sure there's plenty more. OMG Laker flop too? I can't believe it. :speechless:

Iron24th
10-01-2012, 12:05 PM
kobe:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKuKCst6wms

gasol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjRizobEQig

metta:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2s6T4xrTo0

jamison:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTkTv3t4-rE

nash:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnSxGriD6GA

blake:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSJHb7vNihI


...... i'm sure there's plenty more. OMG Laker flop too? I can't believe it. :speechless:

lol if I go on youtube looking for clippers players videos of flopping, I'll never have enough time or room to post them all :rolleyes:

Ask yourself why people who talk flopping always mention clippers :eyebrow:

xcrisisx
10-01-2012, 12:21 PM
nash:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnSxGriD6GA


...... i'm sure there's plenty more. OMG Laker flop too? I can't believe it. :speechless:

:confused:
is this meant to be funny? caus it ain't realy :O

tripleplay2007
10-01-2012, 12:46 PM
I'm really happy about this!

Too many guys in the league just look for contact or to "fake" contact just to get to the line. I really think the league should continue on with calling offensive fouls a little more strict.

Another rule I think they should change if they really want to effect the league is players have to be still and in the same position for 2 seconds instead of 3. The number of charges would rise but it would be a better "Non acting" brand of ball.

godolphins
10-01-2012, 12:50 PM
Miami will probably lose a few extra games if they quit the flopping. Wade, LeBron and Bosh do it all game long. At least the NBA decided to put a stop to it.

I can honestly say, watching every Knicks game, thankfully I do not see any players on my team flopping.


that's becasue players in NY are just tougher and they have larger cojones.

Carmelo's Traveling Flop In Boston: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I67bT47GxhE

MrfadeawayJB
10-01-2012, 12:59 PM
I think this rule will only apply to OBVIOUS flops. Contact can be very subjective. What may knock one player down for a charge may not knock another player down. For example, If LeBron (solidly built guy) gets in position, takes a charge, he needs to sell it and get the foul call (but not flop). A guy like Nash (being smaller) will take the contact and fall automatically due to his stature.

Basically, I just think they will fine people that fall or great exaggerate minimal or no contact

Blink
10-01-2012, 01:00 PM
This just kind of popped in my head. I didnt read all comments but what if they received a fine and the other team shoots a technical? If its a close play...have a "rules guy" ( sort of like NFL replacement officials had) clarify if it was a flop or a charge/blocking foul.

Just a thought.

Blink
10-01-2012, 01:00 PM
This just kind of popped in my head. I didnt read all comments but what if they received a fine and the other team shoots a technical? If its a close play...have a "rules guy" ( sort of like NFL replacement officials had) clarify if it was a flop or a charge/blocking foul.

Just a thought.

MrfadeawayJB
10-01-2012, 01:01 PM
If you build a reputation for flopping you will be on that list. If on that list you are not going to get the benefit of a call its will more likely go the other way if its not clear. They will review games and fines will be handed out. Its not going to be easy because some players are just trying to sell a foul but then you got other playing for the foul. Example Wade,Lebron,cp3 run at you flick their head and role. Its a difference between selling a foul and flopping. Some are even falling before the contact. Its about time they did something all that falling into people not only ruin the game causes injuries too.

this pretty much sums it up

ne3xchamps
10-01-2012, 01:09 PM
this is good news. A lot of people will be getting hurt in the wallet. and certain players production will drop IMO. I don't want to say any names because I will just be labeled a hater.

jericho
10-01-2012, 01:11 PM
There shouldn't be a rule against flopping. Refs should just stop rewarding players for flopping. It's not like the majority of the flops aren't super obvious. Guys that are 6'6 235 all muscle falling like they are a house of cards shouldn't fool anybody.

love your sig deadpool is the best lol

jericho
10-01-2012, 01:24 PM
baiting part of my post
lebron
wade
bosh
clippers
manu
are all in trouble now lol

serious part of my post lol
the fine thing it aint going to work on the superstars floping. they have the money to pay that like its nothing. thats only going to hurt the low salary players. fine them, suspend them, give them techs, give the coaches a 3 challenging calls thing. there are few ways they can do this to not prolong the game. they are just choosing not to, that way they have more control of the outcome of the game its that simple.

imagesrdecievin
10-01-2012, 02:42 PM
I hope it's all reviewed after the games(video replay would slow it down waaay to much) and follows a fines-techs-suspensions progression.

Just fines would have little to no impact where it is truly needed. Superstars get enough calls without blatant acting that's been going on the past few years.

Hawkeye15
10-01-2012, 02:47 PM
Haha funny that every poster makes fun of a different person... EVERYONE FLOPS people, we just need to fine them so they stop

It is ridiculous. The immature folks must dig at their hated teams players. Every single team has floppers. Every one.

Before I judge the rule, I have to see how the NBA enforces it. If they continue to give star treatment while applying this rule, and hit only the Barea's and Varejao's, I won't like it.

ghettosean
10-01-2012, 03:09 PM
Haha funny that every poster makes fun of a different person... EVERYONE FLOPS people, we just need to fine them so they stop
Tell that to Michael Jordan!

But nowadays yes everyone flops! NBA is soft these days :(

Cali4rnia
10-01-2012, 03:33 PM
they should do it like the hockey. If the player flops they should make that team play with 4 players for at least 3 minutes.

robdesign13
10-01-2012, 05:05 PM
This is a good start, but refs need to be able to handle this on court as well.
The best part about this is that we will have a tally of fines (real stats) for flopping for each player that we the fans and the media can publish and refer too. This is a good start.

da ThRONe
10-02-2012, 12:20 AM
How is the ref going to be able to decide if the player used enough force to knock a guy back and if he didn't?

Some of them are pretty obvious but to someones point earlier a 6'6 235 pound player is always going to loose to a 6'6 235 pound player with the most inertia or forward momentum. The object in motion is always going to have more force than a stationary object all other things being equal.

I thought you were supposed to be able to cleanly elevate above the defender to get you're shot off. Not bash into him and knock him back so you can get you're shot off. Now the offensive player gets to create the contact, knock the defender back so he can clear space can the shot and the defender somehow gets called for flopping??

Puts a lot of pressure on the defender and not much pressure on the offensive player imo.

The point is the refs are making calls based on assumption. I fine with the refs missing a legit foul if it means no more phantom fouls.

I agree the league knows offense sells and so the rules are grossly in favor of that side of the ball. But if the refs can't determine a legit foul from a flop a) there clearly aren't enough refs on the court and b) I don't know how the league will consistently get enough evidence to warrant handing out fines.

Shmontaine
10-02-2012, 12:18 PM
It all matters on how it's implemented...

fines mean nothing to players... they would gladly pay 50K if it gives them a better chance to win a game.. suspensions, although would definitely deter players, would never get passed and implemented..

I think maybe a good idea would be to issue fouls for the next game. ie, if it's determined a player flopped twice in a game, the next game they start with 2 fouls. that has a definite effect, without suspension, to curb that behavior...

charlies_angels
10-02-2012, 01:49 PM
This should be implemented immediately.

C_Mund
10-02-2012, 02:06 PM
I think this rule will only apply to OBVIOUS flops. Contact can be very subjective. What may knock one player down for a charge may not knock another player down. For example, If LeBron (solidly built guy) gets in position, takes a charge, he needs to sell it and get the foul call (but not flop). A guy like Nash (being smaller) will take the contact and fall automatically due to his stature.

Basically, I just think they will fine people that fall or great exaggerate minimal or no contact

This is all we can hope for. I mean, just because somebody doesn't fall down it doesn't mean it wasn't a charge. There's going to be a lot of controversy with this rule but it sounds like they're putting a lot of work into the administrative side ahead of time.... but it's only a matter of time before somebody finds a loophole and it gets exploited.

MetroMan
10-02-2012, 02:11 PM
Lebron & Wade flop more than penis's in prison

Hawkeye15
10-02-2012, 02:55 PM
Lebron & Wade flop more than penis's in prison

so you choose 2 players from a team you dislike, state them, and that is your contribution?

heyman321
10-02-2012, 02:59 PM
kobe:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKuKCst6wms

gasol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjRizobEQig

metta:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2s6T4xrTo0

jamison:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTkTv3t4-rE

nash:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnSxGriD6GA

blake:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSJHb7vNihI


...... i'm sure there's plenty more. OMG Laker flop too? I can't believe it. :speechless:

Lmao that Nash one is not a flop, are you stupid? That is actually one of the worst dirty plays of the decade. Horry literally tackled him and he still got up afterwards.

Lo Porto
10-02-2012, 03:12 PM
This is great for the game. Let's just hope they enforce it the right way like they do illegal hits in football. Suspensions shouldn't be part of it until it's like a 5th or so offense since this is so new to the game.

JNoel
10-02-2012, 03:39 PM
Haha funny that every poster makes fun of a different person... EVERYONE FLOPS people, we just need to fine them so they stop

Point I've been trying to get across for a while. Not everyone watches a wide variety of teams though, and try to pin it on teams that hey don't like.

Supreme LA
10-02-2012, 04:16 PM
It is ridiculous. The immature folks must dig at their hated teams players. Every single team has floppers. Every one.

Before I judge the rule, I have to see how the NBA enforces it. If they continue to give star treatment while applying this rule, and hit only the Barea's and Varejao's, I won't like it.

You're stupid. It's well known that some players flop more than others. Some players incorporate it into their game and others don't. It's not wrong to call those players out. Just because some fans don't like to admit their players flop it doesn't mean people calling them out are immature. Call it what it is.

You don't know anything. You're just a glorified hall monitor like someone else once said.

Supreme LA
10-02-2012, 04:30 PM
Point I've been trying to get across for a while. Not everyone watches a wide variety of teams though, and try to pin it on teams that hey don't like.

Says the Heat fan. What about the people who have league pass and watch all the players who flop? I watch every team and Wade is definitely in the top 5 for flopping.

MetroMan
10-02-2012, 04:56 PM
so you choose 2 players from a team you dislike, state them, and that is your contribution?

I always liked Miami. I. Dislike the players

IBleedPurple
10-02-2012, 05:36 PM
Watch out Gallo/Pau/Clippers/Nash/Manu/almost any other European player not previously named. (and yes I named a player from my team)

About time.

JNoel
10-02-2012, 09:29 PM
Says the Heat fan. What about the people who have league pass and watch all the players who flop? I watch every team and Wade is definitely in the top 5 for flopping.

Says the Lakers fan. You definitely don't watch enough teams to know that every team flops. You really can't label a single player for flopping, it can happen to any player on any given night, at any given moment. At the same token, these threads are meaningless considering some of these people's responses towards hate.

yellowblanket
10-03-2012, 09:02 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/nba-unveils-flopping-policy-220400780--nba.html

this will answer all