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el hidalgo
09-27-2012, 01:42 AM
Who do you think is the most selfish player in the NBA? Westbrook comes to mind, eric gordon shot a ton, but id have to say Kobe is the most selfish. Who comes to mind for you guys?

PleaseBeNice
09-27-2012, 01:47 AM
kobe, melo. kobe as in shots, but melo as in shots and me first mentality

Cal827
09-27-2012, 01:53 AM
Kobe?

LOL, didn't see that one coming. :rolleyes: I know he takes a lot of shots, but it's not like the guy passes out once and a while (isn't he like a 5apg for his career?)

This year, I think it's gonna be Bynum honestly. I can see him just taking a hell of a lot of shots, just cause he's the undisputed #1 option now and he knows the team is building around him as their future superstar.

A few others that might be selfish:

Corey Maggette

Monta Ellis (Kinda like Kobe, as in he passes the ball, but also Chucks it a lot)

Brandon Jennings (I will say this, if that back-court can mesh and they are able to distribute properly, look out)

Westbrook (as you mentioned)

Nick Young

Z-Bo (To be fair, this is usually when he's in the psycho zone, like last years playoffs)

Carmelo Anthony (Amar'e too)

tapajafri
09-27-2012, 01:56 AM
Kobe

C-Style
09-27-2012, 01:58 AM
This guy again. we need rep bars

seikou8
09-27-2012, 02:02 AM
here we go over/under 20 pages about kobe and my fellow knicks fans defending Carmelo to the end of the time :rolleyes:

-Kobe24-TJ19-
09-27-2012, 02:03 AM
Melo

Andrew32
09-27-2012, 02:03 AM
March 2012
17-Games

Kobe Bryant
----------
27ppg on 38% shooting.
___________________

Gasol
-----
17ppg on 51% shooting
___________________

Bynum
------
22ppg on 64% shooting

More-Than-Most
09-27-2012, 02:10 AM
Melo/Kobe/Westbrook

I would go with Melo but any of those 3 are fine.

KB-Pau-DH2012
09-27-2012, 02:30 AM
el hidalgo :pity:

Mods have a real hard-on for him.

naps
09-27-2012, 02:40 AM
It's too obvious and easy to answer. Everyone and their grandmas know it.

KB-Pau-DH2012
09-27-2012, 02:42 AM
It's too obvious and easy to answer. Everyone and their grandmas know it.

Brian Scalabrine? :confused:

naps
09-27-2012, 02:48 AM
Brian Scalabrine? :confused:

Does he live in LA :confused:

amos1er
09-27-2012, 03:13 AM
March 2012
17-Games

Kobe Bryant
----------
27ppg on 38% shooting.
___________________

Gasol
-----
17ppg on 51% shooting
___________________

Bynum
------
22ppg on 64% shooting


Wow...so you hand picked 17 games and thats supposed to tell the whole story. :rolleyes:

amos1er
09-27-2012, 03:16 AM
Can we please close this mods. This is clearly baiting. This guy has started 2 threads this past week that were intended to instigate a "Kobe War". The other ones were at least disguised better, but this one is just way too blatant.

ThunderousDemon
09-27-2012, 03:18 AM
If you look closely, Lebron traveled.

Andrew32
09-27-2012, 03:20 AM
Wow...so you hand picked 17 games and thats supposed to tell the whole story. :rolleyes:

17 games is a pretty big sample size in a 66 game season.

How about I combine two months (Febuary + March)
That is about 1/2 the season.

30 games
--------
Kobe : 26ppg on 39% shooting

amos1er
09-27-2012, 03:47 AM
17 games is a pretty big sample size in a 66 game season.

How about I combine two months (Febuary + March)
That is about 1/2 the season.

30 games
--------
Kobe : 26ppg on 39% shooting

Why don't we just do what the experts do and use the whole season. :rolleyes:

Why use 17 games when 66 are available?

Do you have a valid reason to exclude those 49 games? Or is hating on Kobe a valid enough reason in your eyes.

Perhaps those two months where Kobe struggled could have something to do with the short and condensed schedule that he (a player with 16 season of milage under his belt) had to adjust to. You should really be giving him credit for that, because unlike Wade he actually played in those games despite fatigue and nagging injuries instead of sitting out on the sidelines not doing everything in his power to help his team win games.

Blue_Ninja
09-27-2012, 03:50 AM
Melo and it's not even close

Andrew32
09-27-2012, 03:59 AM
Why don't we just do what the experts do and use the whole season. :rolleyes:

Why use 17 games when 66 are available?

Do you have a valid reason to exclude those 49 games? Or is hating on Kobe a valid enough reason in your eyes.
I used 30 games, not 17.
It is valid because it shows how inconsistent he was.

His efficiency for the entire season was quite mediocre anyway but you have to use examples like I did to show inconsistency.

For a big portion of the season he had a very small impact offensively due to his poor efficiency and yet the team still stayed afloat thanks to the consistent and efficient 20/10 production by Bynum & Gasol.

Bulls_fan90
09-27-2012, 04:11 AM
Andray Blatche.

Hotone1401
09-27-2012, 04:13 AM
March 2012
17-Games

Kobe Bryant
----------
27ppg on 38% shooting.
___________________

Gasol
-----
17ppg on 51% shooting
___________________

Bynum
------
22ppg on 64% shooting

What moron compares shooting % between a SG and a center???

One shoots jump shots and the other just shoots layup a and dunks. Hmm...I wonder which one has a higher shooting % :confused:

amos1er
09-27-2012, 04:15 AM
I used 30 games, not 17.
It is valid because it shows how inconsistent he was.

His efficiency for the entire season was quite mediocre anyway but you have to use examples like I did to show inconsistency.

For a big portion of the season he had a very small impact offensively due to his poor efficiency and yet the team still stayed afloat thanks to the consistent and efficient 20/10 production by Bynum & Gasol.

I would have thought that after reading Bruno's post you would know better than to post nonsense like this.

Andrew32
09-27-2012, 04:55 AM
I would have thought that after reading Bruno's post you would know better than to post nonsense like this.
What is the nonsense?

If a player shoots horribly for 1/2 the season and decent/good for the other half would that not be considered inconsistent?

Maybe you have a different definition of the word.

Was his efficiency for the entire season not mediocre?
Did both Gasol and Bynum not post much higher FG and TS percentages with superior game to game consistency?

Tell me where I was wrong... :o

Lakers4life08
09-27-2012, 05:02 AM
Barbosa wins this.....this dude never pass....

amos1er
09-27-2012, 05:06 AM
What is the nonsense?

If a player shoots horribly for 1/2 the season and decent/good for the other half would that not be considered inconsistent?

Maybe you have a different definition of the word.

Was his efficiency for the entire season not mediocre?
Did both Gasol and Bynum not post much higher FG and TS percentages with superior game to game consistency?

Tell me where I was wrong... :o

I already did. Lockout season. Kobe had to carry the load for a team that had the worst bench in the NBA and a coach who didn't know offense very well. On top of that he had to deal with the fatigue of playing in a condensed season. Gasol and Bynum both had more touches than in previous seasons. Unfortunately, Gasol and Bynum don't have enough in their offensive arsenal to create any more shots than they were already attempting while still be efficient.

As I said earlier:


Originally Posted by amos1er
Perhaps those two months where Kobe struggled could have something to do with the short and condensed schedule that he (a player with 16 season of milage under his belt) had to adjust to. You should really be giving him credit for that, because unlike Wade he actually played in those games despite fatigue and nagging injuries instead of sitting out on the sidelines not doing everything in his power to help his team win games.

NBA-GMaster
09-27-2012, 06:41 AM
Kobe n Ellis

JNoel
09-27-2012, 07:10 AM
Westbrook, Melo, Blatche

JNoel
09-27-2012, 07:11 AM
If you look closely, Lebron traveled.

Grow up, its getting old.

SteBO
09-27-2012, 07:27 AM
This isn't going anywhere fast......