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mrblisterdundee
09-26-2012, 05:37 PM
Nobody can stop LeBron James, although some people can mitigate him better than others. Who do you think can guard James the best? Why do you think so? What are the attributes of the player than make them so much better at guarding James?
Feel free to leave a top-5, in terms of who can guard him the best. I wish Rodman was still in the league.

I think Serge Ibaka, the player who took Kevin Garnett's spot in the All-NBA Defensive First Team, can guard James the best.
You need a player who is as tall or taller than James but also has some quickness. Ibaka has the height and reach, although he could put on a few more pounds - he's two inches taller but 20 pounds lighter than James.
Ibaka is insanely athletic and very fast for a big man. You know that he knows how to block better than any other player.
Finally, he's got that mentality that he wants to guard the best player and try to shut them down. And he's only 23.

Here are my top-5 players who can best guard James:

1. Serge Ibaka
2. Kevin Garnett
3. Dwight Howard
4. Josh Smith
5. Luol Deng

Kashmir13579
09-26-2012, 05:37 PM
Steve Novak

justinnum1
09-26-2012, 05:38 PM
one person can not guard lebron.

EDUTEXANS
09-26-2012, 05:46 PM
How about the Matrix?

WVNowitzki
09-26-2012, 05:47 PM
Shawn Marion

koreancabbage
09-26-2012, 05:49 PM
Lebron James

LAKERS4LIFE!!
09-26-2012, 05:50 PM
one person can not guard lebron.

The question didn't ask if one person can guard Lebron, it's who BEST guards him?

Mr. LA
09-26-2012, 05:51 PM
Metta World Peace because he is the only small forward stronger then James... some centers are stronger but they simply don't have enough speed...at least Peace has "enough" speed... and I think Peace intimidates James a little bit

DoMeFavors
09-26-2012, 05:55 PM
Gerald Wallace, Paul Pierce

naps
09-26-2012, 05:57 PM
None can guard him but Pierce does an ok job with KG's help.

TheLegend
09-26-2012, 05:57 PM
I disagree about Ibaka. How many times did u see Ibaka guard Lebron in the finals? Was it effective? So that answers that. In fact, the rest of ur top 5 of KG, D-12, Smith, Deng is just wrong. The problem here is that outside of maybe Deng, none of those guys have a chance with Lebron on the perimeter. They simply won't have the lateral footwork and they know it. They likely will just give Lebron the 3 and that's probably not a good idea either. Deng can guard him better on the perimeter but Lebron will just go right through him in the paint. The real answer is no one can guard that dude. Lebron is to much of phenomenal athlete.

Bruno
09-26-2012, 06:01 PM
tough to say.

it takes legit team defense with a dominant anchor to slow him down.

in recent memory, Marion did the best job. With the assistance of Chandler, Marion held LeBron to under 18 points per game during the 2011 Finals.

TheLegend
09-26-2012, 06:02 PM
Metta World Peace because he is the only small forward stronger then James... some centers are stronger but they simply don't have enough speed...at least Peace has "enough" speed... and I think Peace intimidates James a little bit

Now I have seen Metta cause Lebron some problems years back when Bron was with the Cavs. But that's when Lebron's jumpers wasn't that great and he didn't play the post game. So I know what ur saying here. But now? I don't think so. Lebron is faster than Metta and his outside jumper has improved tremendously since then. Plus Lebron has greatly improved his post game so he has more options at the elbow. I don't think Metta intimidates Bron. He may intimidate you because ur a fan, but he don't intimidate someone like Lebron James dude.

bucketss
09-26-2012, 06:02 PM
the first three guys cannot guard lebron, why would you make a big man guard a player as quick as lebron?

PlezPlayDKnicks
09-26-2012, 06:06 PM
Melo, He gives him a tough time on offense so he doesnt even bother anymore and let shane do the dirty work. The best way to guard lebron is to make him work on the other end.

Deshawn Stevenson and Marion get at him a lil bit. And i think Caron butler b4 his injury guarded him well

TheLegend
09-26-2012, 06:08 PM
the first three guys cannot guard lebron, why would you make a big man guard a player as quick as lebron?

l call it a lack of basketball knowledge. People play 2K12 and see it happen in a video game and think it must be realistic. lol

PlezPlayDKnicks
09-26-2012, 06:13 PM
I also think Kawhi Leonard when he gets stronger will be able to guard him. Believe it or not even bonehead JR Smith played Lebron decent when focused. But it doesnt matter hes gonna get his 27 some how some way anyway.

shep33
09-26-2012, 06:13 PM
Metta does a pretty good job. Last year he held LeBron to 12-26 and 12-27 shooting nights in their two meetings. Forced 7 turnovers too.

But lets be real, LBJ is unstoppable right now. Metta slows him down, but he still gets his numbers.

LJEATON26
09-26-2012, 06:17 PM
Thabo Sepholosha did a decent job on him when they were matched up together in the finals.

nickdymez
09-26-2012, 06:17 PM
Iggy

Lakersfan2483
09-26-2012, 06:23 PM
Marion

MrEdwards
09-26-2012, 06:28 PM
Lebron

Showtime Steve
09-26-2012, 06:30 PM
Delonte west.

Hawkeye15
09-26-2012, 06:32 PM
Marion is the only one recently, but the Mavs also used Kidd, and other mixes on him. Someone like LeBron can not be guarded by an individual, no superstar can. It takes an elite wing defender to start, and then a defensive game plan and help defense.

Iggy does alright. Deng as well.

raiderposting
09-26-2012, 06:33 PM
himself

Hawkeye15
09-26-2012, 06:33 PM
I also think Kawhi Leonard when he gets stronger will be able to guard him. Believe it or not even bonehead JR Smith played Lebron decent when focused. But it doesnt matter hes gonna get his 27 some how some way anyway.

yeah man, I think Leonard is the next shut down wing.

Hawkeye15
09-26-2012, 06:34 PM
I mean, if we asked this 5 years ago about Kobe, you have:

Nobody can stop him alone. I guess Raja Bell, and Bruce Bowen is where I would start, but no scorer as good as Kobe can be stopped by just telling one guy, "you got him man".

Ill21
09-26-2012, 06:41 PM
There is not one person that can shut him down IMO

seikou8
09-26-2012, 06:53 PM
iggy maybe

justinnum1
09-26-2012, 06:54 PM
There is not one person that can shut him down IMO

there really isn't, People say deng, but lebron avg 30ppg and 50% shooting vs deng, and pretty much every other elite defender. Not if lebron starts playmaking from the post forget about it.

Stress
09-26-2012, 06:54 PM
John Lucas III.....
Seriously,
1a. Iggy
1b. Ibaka

Guppyfighter
09-26-2012, 07:03 PM
Metta World Peace because he is the only small forward stronger then James... some centers are stronger but they simply don't have enough speed...at least Peace has "enough" speed... and I think Peace intimidates James a little bit

That's insane. Mr. LA said a Laker name in which someone asked if someone is the best in something.

Sir Buckets
09-26-2012, 07:10 PM
The fourth quarter.

justinnum1
09-26-2012, 07:24 PM
The fourth quarter.

not last year :)

D-Leethal
09-26-2012, 07:32 PM
Jason Kidd

beasted86
09-26-2012, 07:37 PM
Name someone who you think defends LeBron well, and I'll show you more than just 1 game log where he shat on them. I really can't think of even one player who consistently does a decent job on him, or even slowed him down in more games than games he went off on them or left them sitting on the bench with quick foul trouble while he went off on their teammate.

Swashcuff
09-26-2012, 07:38 PM
While I think Marion is a good call I think he's getting a little too much credit for the job that he did on LeBon and Tyson Chandler isn't getting enough for his defensive impact in that series.

D-Leethal
09-26-2012, 07:43 PM
While I think Marion is a good call I think he's getting a little too much credit for the job that he did on LeBon and Tyson Chandler isn't getting enough for his defensive impact in that series.

It was definitely a team effort that stopped LeBron, nobody is gonna stop him 1v1. Tyson with his help and ability to defend the pick and roll, close off lanes and protect the rim. Duane Casey's gameplan and zone defense also deserves a huge chunk of credit.

IKnowHoops
09-26-2012, 07:49 PM
Melo, He gives him a tough time on offense so he doesnt even bother anymore and let shane do the dirty work. The best way to guard lebron is to make him work on the other end.

Deshawn Stevenson and Marion get at him a lil bit. And i think Caron butler b4 his injury guarded him well

This

dee279
09-26-2012, 07:52 PM
His nerves

JWO35
09-26-2012, 07:54 PM
His hairline

Da Knicks
09-26-2012, 07:55 PM
Melo, He gives him a tough time on offense so he doesnt even bother anymore and let shane do the dirty work. The best way to guard lebron is to make him work on the other end.

Deshawn Stevenson and Marion get at him a lil bit. And i think Caron butler b4 his injury guarded him well

This, guy has to waste his energy on defense...

IKnowHoops
09-26-2012, 07:56 PM
Name someone who you think defends LeBron well, and I'll show you more than just 1 game log where he shat on them. I really can't think of even one player who consistently does a decent job on him, or even slowed him down in more games than games he went off on them or left them sitting on the bench with quick foul trouble while he went off on their teammate.

And This

tht_one_guy
09-26-2012, 08:13 PM
Lebron can not be stopped but the two players I thought made Lebron work for what he got were Danny Granger from the Pacers and Kawhi Leonard from the Spurs.

BoSox47
09-26-2012, 08:16 PM
Kevin Durant

C-Style
09-26-2012, 08:39 PM
Ive seen Kobe play pretty good D on him on ISO's

Rain City
09-26-2012, 08:45 PM
paul pierce was best til this past season... marion and stevenson did excellent in 2011.

scary is how good he was late in playoffs when they started running the offense through him out of the high post.... his body was too much for harden, and it sapped his energy which killed his offense, his quickness and control was too much for ibaka..... nobody comes close to matching his strength and foot quickness, nobody can guard him adequately.

IndyRealist
09-26-2012, 08:47 PM
In 4 games vs. Orlando (Feb 8, Feb 19, Mar 13, and Mar 18) Lebron was held to 5-15 shooting and 10 FT's, 9-14 shooting with 7 FT's, 7-20 shooting and 3 FT's, and 4-14 shooting with 8FT's. The Heat were 2-2.

Against the Lakers (Jan 19 and Mar 4) he was 12-27 with 7 FT's, and 12-26 with 3 FT's. The Heat went 1-1.

Against Memphis, Lebron went 8-19 with 4 FT's in one game. The Heat lost.

Chicago was 2-2 against the Heat but Lebron had some good nights.


Including playoffs, Miami was 7-1 against New York and Lebron torched them in 6 of those.

Lebron smoked the Sixers 3 out of 4 games, and won all 4.

So I think the answer is, whoever was on the Magic, Grizzlies and Lakers.

Against the Magic, he averaged 19ppg on 40% shooting.
Against LA, he averaged 28ppg on 45% shooting.
Against Memphis, he got 21 points on 42% shooting.

JordansBulls
09-26-2012, 08:51 PM
Shawn Marion had him on lock in the 2011 finals.

Eagles4Lyfe
09-26-2012, 08:52 PM
Delonte West

mrblisterdundee
09-26-2012, 08:53 PM
one person can not guard lebron.

Obviously I'm talking about who can guard him the best. Guarding LeBron well might mean that he only gets 23 points, 8 rebounds and 6 assists.

mrblisterdundee
09-26-2012, 08:55 PM
I disagree about Ibaka. How many times did u see Ibaka guard Lebron in the finals? Was it effective? So that answers that. In fact, the rest of ur top 5 of KG, D-12, Smith, Deng is just wrong. The problem here is that outside of maybe Deng, none of those guys have a chance with Lebron on the perimeter. They simply won't have the lateral footwork and they know it. They likely will just give Lebron the 3 and that's probably not a good idea either. Deng can guard him better on the perimeter but Lebron will just go right through him in the paint. The real answer is no one can guard that dude. Lebron is to much of phenomenal athlete.

Once again, I'm talking about who can best guard him, not whether someone can guard him.

Quinnsanity
09-26-2012, 08:55 PM
I'm really curious to see how MKG does against LeBron. He's one of the few guys with the body to guard him.

mrblisterdundee
09-26-2012, 08:57 PM
l call it a lack of basketball knowledge. People play 2K12 and see it happen in a video game and think it must be realistic. lol

I'm not basing my rankings off of a video game. I'm basing them off of real-life NBA performance.

Tumstock
09-26-2012, 09:02 PM
Delonte West

This!

He'll just pull some of those moma jokes and LeBron is done.

sixer04fan
09-26-2012, 09:02 PM
Iggy

IndyRealist
09-26-2012, 09:04 PM
Lebron lit up Boston in two out of 3 games and still had a good game in the other one. The Heat went 1-2.

Lebron pummeled the Mavs on Christmas Day and was quiet the second game, but Miami won both so it's hard to draw conclusions.

KnicksR4Real
09-26-2012, 09:05 PM
Amar'e Stoudemire

Eg714
09-26-2012, 09:34 PM
No one can stop him 1 on one but i think this year Metta and Dwight will give him problems.

mrblisterdundee
09-26-2012, 09:36 PM
Here's how many points James averaged and how many games he won last year against various teams:
1. Vs. Orlando, 2-2, 18.7 points per game
2. Vs. Charlotte, 3-0, 23.3 points per game
3. Vs. Oklahoma City, 1-1, 25.5 points per game (it was 4-1, 28.6 in the playoffs)
4. Vs. New York, 26.6 points per game (it was 4-1, 27.8 in the playoffs)
5. Vs. Atlanta, 2-1, 27.3 points per game
6. Vs. Boston, 1-2, 28.3 points per game (it was 4-3, 33.6 in the playoffs)
7. Vs. Chicago, 2-2, 31.8 points per game

Obviously it's a team effort to defend James, but most of those teams have someone from my top-5 on them who spend the most time glued to James.

--23--
09-26-2012, 10:23 PM
I think it's more of a team effort and coaching defensive strategy, for example Pierce does a good job against Lebron but it's with the help of KG and Perk(b4 the trade). Same with Marion and Stevenson the help of Chandler made them play more aggressive towards Lebron. I think the combo of Kobe + MWP w/Howard could make him work really hard also.

Best combo of players to defend Lebron
Tony Allen + Marc Gasol
Kobe + MWP + Howard
Deng + Taj
Stephen Jackson + Duncan (this would be decent)
Pierce + KG (i feel they still need another big though)

Individual Players
Iggy
Marion
Tony Allen
Deng
Stephen Jack
MWP *(I don't know about him due because he's not quick but he still is strong and he's crazy)

If Philly some how kept Iggy, the combo of him and Bynum would have been very nice.

Hotone1401
09-26-2012, 10:30 PM
Shawn Marion and Trevor Ariza.

IndyRealist
09-26-2012, 10:37 PM
Here's how many points James averaged and how many games he won last year against various teams:
1. Vs. Orlando, 2-2, 18.7 points per game
2. Vs. Charlotte, 3-0, 23.3 points per game
3. Vs. Oklahoma City, 1-1, 25.5 points per game (it was 4-1, 28.6 in the playoffs)
4. Vs. New York, 26.6 points per game (it was 4-1, 27.8 in the playoffs)
5. Vs. Atlanta, 2-1, 27.3 points per game
6. Vs. Boston, 1-2, 28.3 points per game (it was 4-3, 33.6 in the playoffs)
7. Vs. Chicago, 2-2, 31.8 points per game

Obviously it's a team effort to defend James, but most of those teams have someone from my top-5 on them who spend the most time glued to James.

Your list doesn't completely make sense. Chicago was 2-2 against the Heat, but Lebron lit them up. You can't really say that Deng's D won games for them because Lebron performed well. And Lebron trounced Boston. It was other factors that lost the games for the Heat.

The only teams that consistently did well defending Lebron were Orlando, Memphis, and the Lakers. Memphis was only one game, and LA was only two. Whatever Orlando was doing, they did it well for 4 games.

TheRunKiller
09-26-2012, 10:46 PM
No one. He has a ring now. No more LeBron jokes from me anymore.

Minimal
09-27-2012, 08:13 AM
Went to find out who is the best LeBron defender.
Ron Artest aka Metta World Peace is the best LeBron defender IMO, there is a reason he was DPOY before.
25.7 PPG .458 FG% .268 3P% only 7.4 FTA and forcing 4.4 TOPG for LeBron
Next come Gerald Wallace, Shane Battier and strangely Melo.

Not Paul Pierce, not Iggy, not Deng, not Marion.

BklynKnicks3
09-27-2012, 08:18 AM
Melo n gerald wallace and marion

C_Mund
09-27-2012, 09:27 AM
James Johnson

charlies_angels
09-27-2012, 09:33 AM
This one is really hard to answer but the person guarding him best I think in the list is howard if they will go one on one.

DieHardColtsfan
09-27-2012, 09:38 AM
Anthony Carter...

Fayzon10
09-27-2012, 09:53 AM
one person can not guard lebron. I don't think one person can guard any elite player, elite players always end up getting their numbers.

Dankster
09-27-2012, 10:11 AM
No one can really. If out in the perimeter, I guess my pick would be Iguodala but than you'd need someone like Ibaka or Howard guarding the paint if he decides to drive the ball in.

No one player can stop him from penetrating into the lane from the perimeter, it takes a collective effort from 2-3 defenders. And in the fastbreak situation, he's pretty much impossible to stop regardless of who you throw at him.

I do agree with the poster a few pages back that you have to tire him out by making him play non-stop defense, specifically against a wing player who can run all day long.

Carmelo is the only guy I can think of that can pretty much match him statistically in their head to head matchups, is similar in size to James (although James is much more muscular) and has proven to be a tough matchup against him for almost a decade now in the league. Their matchups are usually very competitive especially if they're guarding each other the majority of the game. I'd also say Pierce does pretty well, but age and loss of athleticism/speed have caught up to him the past few seasons.

ManningToTyree
09-27-2012, 10:19 AM
Artest

heattiltheend94
09-27-2012, 10:20 AM
I think rondo honestly is the best. The height difference gives James a "foolish" sense I security and he seems to always jack up shots when guarded by small players. Rondo is my pick

rpgmaster86
09-27-2012, 10:29 AM
deshawn stevenson

Singhkumar9219
09-27-2012, 10:34 AM
Melo and world peace. Melo has the size to guard him and his strength is underrated. The fact that he can take lebron apart on offense i think gets to him. Metta World Peace is just a monster and can intimidate anyone easily, he cant shut down lebron, but who can? :cool:

xcrisisx
09-27-2012, 10:42 AM
nowone. just wait till the 4th quarter and he shuts himself down

thenaj17
09-27-2012, 10:56 AM
1 - MWP
2 - Deng
3 - Marion
4 - Kirilenko
5 - ?

Only 4 guys who adequately guard LeBron anymore

I was tempted to put Kobe 5 but his D has gone downhill the last 2 years

tonyd3b54
09-27-2012, 11:11 AM
igoudala...

ewing
09-27-2012, 11:20 AM
1 - MWP
2 - Deng
3 - Marion
4 - Kirilenko
5 - ?

Only 4 guys who adequately guard LeBron anymore

I was tempted to put Kobe 5 but his D has gone downhill the last 2 years


I dont think anyone can guard LeBron but i do think others match as well as those 4- Iggy and Gerald Wallace for example

Blink
09-27-2012, 11:48 AM
Marion

Mataro41
09-27-2012, 12:06 PM
bruce bowen could take off his bow tie put a spurs jersey on and still shutdown LBJ

Shkelqim
09-27-2012, 12:08 PM
Andre Iggy lol he can gaurd anybody the best

Mataro41
09-27-2012, 12:21 PM
really maybe Marion and Iggy

MTar786
09-27-2012, 01:06 PM
in no order.. these guys can guard lebron.. but not thro him fits

ron artest
gerald wallace
iggy
marion
sefolosha
ronnie brewer maybe

LA_Raiders
09-27-2012, 01:43 PM
Melo does a pretty good job too. He takes it personal, and he wins most of the time.

LA_Raiders
09-27-2012, 01:44 PM
nowone. just wait till the 4th quarter and he shuts himself down

this

danidin
09-27-2012, 02:07 PM
kobe

iggypop123
09-27-2012, 02:08 PM
its multiple factors. Refs that let em play that don't call breathing fouls. The ability to force Miami to play big not go small. With these factors deng or iggy are the guys

ewing
09-27-2012, 02:09 PM
Jimmer

Chronz
09-27-2012, 02:12 PM
Whoever has KG, Dwight, or Hibbert behind them.

LAKobeBryant
09-27-2012, 04:38 PM
jj barea and deshawn stevenson

mrblisterdundee
09-27-2012, 04:48 PM
Your list doesn't completely make sense. Chicago was 2-2 against the Heat, but Lebron lit them up. You can't really say that Deng's D won games for them because Lebron performed well. And Lebron trounced Boston. It was other factors that lost the games for the Heat.

The only teams that consistently did well defending Lebron were Orlando, Memphis, and the Lakers. Memphis was only one game, and LA was only two. Whatever Orlando was doing, they did it well for 4 games.


The Thunder did a better job than the Lakers guarding James. He averaged 28 points per game and was 1-1 against the Lakers (compared to 1-1 and 25.5 points per game against the Thunder) in the regular season.
If a player scores a lot, that doesn't mean the team actually doing better. When Kobe Bryant scores a lot, that means the Lakers are less likely to win. It's probably the same with any great team and its star trying to force the issue rather than getting the entire team involved, which James does a lot better than Bryant.

mrblisterdundee
09-27-2012, 04:54 PM
Went to find out who is the best LeBron defender.
Ron Artest aka Metta World Peace is the best LeBron defender IMO, there is a reason he was DPOY before.
25.7 PPG .458 FG% .268 3P% only 7.4 FTA and forcing 4.4 TOPG for LeBron
Next come Gerald Wallace, Shane Battier and strangely Melo.

Not Paul Pierce, not Iggy, not Deng, not Marion.

I was mostly looking for players with the right combination of size and speed, but Peace makes sense - I never realized that he's actually heavier than James. I still think that Ibaka has the best tools to guard James, and there's a reason he took Garnett's spot on the first team.

bucketss
09-27-2012, 05:08 PM
I'm not basing my rankings off of a video game. I'm basing them off of real-life NBA performance.

are you talking about them actually guarding him out in the perimeter or when they block his shot in the help defense. no way can those guys stay in front of lebron. celtics got desperate and tried brandon bass on lebron and he tore him up. these guys can't guard lebron

Jesse2272
09-27-2012, 05:28 PM
Prime Bruce Bowen

TheNumber37
09-27-2012, 05:36 PM
iggy, brewer, tony Allen, deng, marion,

jerellh528
09-27-2012, 05:40 PM
No one player can guard anyone 1 on 1 in the NBA, offensive players are just too skilled. But all the top wing defenders can slow him down better than most, otherwise they wouldn't be the premier wing defenders.. MWP, g wallace, d granger, k leonard, j smith, iggy,marion are guys i can think off that are able to defend him well.

GOON MUSIC
09-27-2012, 05:53 PM
Me, put me on the floor coach !

Oefarmy2005
09-28-2012, 02:26 PM
KG, when he was younger, could guard LBJ pretty well. Today, probably Durant.

85BearsDefense
09-29-2012, 12:59 AM
Taj Gibson

Kyben36
09-29-2012, 01:24 AM
Deng does a nice job allways, tends to allow the team to play a better team defense by not having to double all the time, that said, its lebron james.

Some of your other names on that list are awful though, KG, Dwight, Ibaka. all awful against him on the drive.

topdog
09-29-2012, 02:20 AM
He wasn't on him much, but I feel like Paul George did and would do the best job on Lebron. He's tall, long, quick and athletic.

DanG
09-29-2012, 03:32 AM
Marion, MWP-Dwight, Deng

dh144498
10-01-2012, 04:04 PM
Rajon Rondo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2V2tcKdNUL0\

xxplayerxx23
10-01-2012, 04:09 PM
Melo :laugh2: :dance:

thenaj17
10-05-2012, 09:32 AM
I dont think anyone can guard LeBron but i do think others match as well as those 4- Iggy and Gerald Wallace for example

No idea why but i forgot Iggy. He'd also be in there. I don't think Wallace is as good a defender as people say

It's gota be guys with long arms to disrupt him cos no-one is staying in front of him. Hence why i have Metta, Kirilenko in there. They both have great, quick hands

thenaj17
10-05-2012, 09:34 AM
I was mostly looking for players with the right combination of size and speed, but Peace makes sense - I never realized that he's actually heavier than James. I still think that Ibaka has the best tools to guard James, and there's a reason he took Garnett's spot on the first team.

Ibaka was 1st team because he had loads of blocks. He's not a top 5 man defender at his position, let alone the league. He's a very good help defender though

thenaj17
10-05-2012, 09:37 AM
Whoever has KG, Dwight, or Hibbert behind them.

That definitely helps!

LMAO at your sig. JB really say that? Talk about double standards. I wonder if he actually thinks before typing lol

theheatles
10-05-2012, 09:46 AM
Iggy, Marion, Deng

theheatles
10-05-2012, 09:49 AM
I hate when the OP gives oblivious examples....if Dwight manned up on LeBron from the perimeter, he'd pop a knee cap, he couldn't hang

Bravo95
10-05-2012, 12:23 PM
Josh Smith is one of the few players with the size and athleticism to go 1-on-1 with him.

Tymathee
10-05-2012, 01:22 PM
Mettaaaaaa

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=artesro01&p2=jamesle01

Raph12
10-05-2012, 01:26 PM
Dwight keeps him out of the paint moreso than any other player, that's about as much as you can do.

KB-Pau-DH2012
10-05-2012, 01:34 PM
You can't stop LBJ, you can only try to taking away the angles and lanes he used to drive to the basket. Need to make him into a jump shooter. Guys like Marion, Iggy and hopefully this season, a rejuvenated Metta World War are probably the best at doing this.

justinnum1
10-05-2012, 01:35 PM
If you watched the playoffs last season thats how lebron will be playing from now on. he will be in the post and there is no one that can guard him there, it will either be an easy 2 or free throws, and when you double him there will be an elite shooter open.

JesusWears24
10-05-2012, 01:45 PM
Metta and Kobe. Kobe doesnt guard him the whole game but if you need a couple guys to step up and guard him i would go Metta and Kobe. Kobe's IQ and Mettas strength stop Lebron anyday

JesusWears24
10-05-2012, 01:46 PM
If you watched the playoffs last season thats how lebron will be playing from now on. he will be in the post and there is no one that can guard him there, it will either be an easy 2 or free throws, and when you double him there will be an elite shooter open.

Elite Shooter? HA, thats laughable the only "elite" shooter on the Heat is Ray allen.. and his age is catching up with him

JesusWears24
10-05-2012, 01:47 PM
You can't stop LBJ, you can only try to taking away the angles and lanes he used to drive to the basket. Need to make him into a jump shooter. Guys like Marion, Iggy and hopefully this season, a rejuvenated Metta World War are probably the best at doing this.

Metta World War! hahaha:clap:

MetroMan
10-05-2012, 02:08 PM
Elite Shooter? HA, thats laughable the only "elite" shooter on the Heat is Ray allen.. and his age is catching up with him

?

ray allen still shoots .450 from the 3. also makes more than 150 3's a year

chalmers .380 from 3

miller .450 from 3

rashard lewis

hell, even bosh and lebron can hit a 3

justinnum1
10-05-2012, 02:09 PM
Metta and Kobe. Kobe doesnt guard him the whole game but if you need a couple guys to step up and guard him i would go Metta and Kobe. Kobe's IQ and Mettas strength stop Lebron anyday

Homer alert

MetroMan
10-05-2012, 02:17 PM
Metta World War! hahaha:clap:

you sure about that?

january 19
LA Vs Miami. Miami wins, Lebron 31 points 8 n 8

March 4
LA vs Miami. LA wins, Lebron 25 points 13 n 7


Dec 25 2010
LA v Miami. Miami wins, lebron 27 points 11 n 10



this is lebrons stats vs la since he went to miami. He is averaging 27.5 points, 10.5 rebs n 8.5 assists.

where is ron stopping him?

JesusWears24
10-05-2012, 02:25 PM
?

ray allen still shoots .450 from the 3. also makes more than 150 3's a year

chalmers .380 from 3

miller .450 from 3

rashard lewis

hell, even bosh and lebron can hit a 3

Like i said Allen is Elite, Chalmers and miller are good shooters but dont ever say they are Elite....ever

JesusWears24
10-05-2012, 02:31 PM
you sure about that?

january 19
LA Vs Miami. Miami wins, Lebron 31 points 8 n 8

March 4
LA vs Miami. LA wins, Lebron 25 points 13 n 7


Dec 25 2010
LA v Miami. Miami wins, lebron 27 points 11 n 10



this is lebrons stats vs la since he went to miami. He is averaging 27.5 points, 10.5 rebs n 8.5 assists.

where is ron stopping him?

January 19
Lebron went 12-27,

March 4
Lebron went 12-26,

naps
10-05-2012, 02:41 PM
Metta and Kobe. Kobe doesnt guard him the whole game but if you need a couple guys to step up and guard him i would go Metta and Kobe. Kobe's IQ and Mettas strength stop Lebron anyday

:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

Oh nvm...I just saw your username.

MetroMan
10-05-2012, 02:45 PM
January 19
Lebron went 12-27,

March 4
Lebron went 12-26,

so

he was 3 shots off from .500 in the first game and 2 shots off from .500 in the second game. thats still impressive

he still killed.

MetroMan
10-05-2012, 02:46 PM
Like i said Allen is Elite, Chalmers and miller are good shooters but dont ever say they are Elite....ever

kid, read carefully next time. I never said miller n chalmers are elite

JordansBulls
10-05-2012, 03:03 PM
you sure about that?

january 19
LA Vs Miami. Miami wins, Lebron 31 points 8 n 8

March 4
LA vs Miami. LA wins, Lebron 25 points 13 n 7


Dec 25 2010
LA v Miami. Miami wins, lebron 27 points 11 n 10



this is lebrons stats vs la since he went to miami. He is averaging 27.5 points, 10.5 rebs n 8.5 assists.

where is ron stopping him?

Metta can't hold any elite player right now. This isn't 2008.

MetroMan
10-05-2012, 03:04 PM
Metta can't hold any elite player right now. This isn't 2008.

my point exactly.

Vinylman
10-05-2012, 06:28 PM
One on One...

no one...

with help guys such as the following in no particular order have a chance to slow him down:

Iggy
Deng
MWP
Marion

Gibby23
10-05-2012, 06:31 PM
One on One...

no one...

with help guys such as the following in no particular order have a chance to slow him down:

Iggy
Deng
MWP
Marion

And now one of them has the best defensive big man in the NBA to help.

JordansBulls
10-05-2012, 10:10 PM
my point exactly.

I do remember back I think it was 2008 where Lebron said Bruce and Ron defended him the best, but that was years ago.

C-Style
10-05-2012, 10:15 PM
so

he was 3 shots off from .500 in the first game and 2 shots off from .500 in the second game. thats still impressive

he still killed.

Kobe is 1 shot off to per game to score 49%

JordansBulls
10-06-2012, 08:34 AM
Kobe is 1 shot off to per game to score 49%

Which year?