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Red Hot Rolllin
09-02-2012, 11:04 AM
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar killed everyone with it... why don't big man develop this deadly weapon???

Even a little half sky hooks like Magic and Sabonis had were a weapons... Magic won a title on a sky hook across the lane in Boston.

I just wonder if there will ever be a big man again slinging sky hooks in the post again... end of an era.. not sure why

tredigs
09-02-2012, 11:19 AM
Same reason pathetic FT shooting bigs like Shaq won't shoot the Rick Berry free throw. Too insecure.

''I will shoot negative-30 percent before I shoot underhanded''. - Shaq.

If a guy like Roy Hibbert does nothing but build strength and shoot 1,000 sky hooks a day this summer then he's the best center in the NBA 2012. He won't.

seikou8
09-02-2012, 11:28 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuv2pp4BRuQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJ12kiEPaSI&feature=related

tredigs
09-02-2012, 11:37 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuv2pp4BRuQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJ12kiEPaSI&feature=related

lol - Is there a point behind these random clips of two D. Howard games that pale in comparison to what Kareem would do on a lazy Tuesday?

I wonder if D. Howard's ever had a complete game where he put up 35/17/5 with 4 blocks. Kareem averaged it for a season.

Hellcrooner
09-02-2012, 02:29 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzqfDaL0hZo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjCEskv06Vw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4YTb7IZU_w

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyhfXwDkzwA

there you go.

Oh, his Bro does them too btw.

KnickaBocka.44
09-02-2012, 02:55 PM
Players, especially big men, are in such a hurry to get to the NBA and get paid that they don't work on developing post games anymore.


The NBA is now a perimeter oriented league in the sense that the rules allow for more penetration from outside. Dumping the ball down low to your big man in order to get high percentage shots isn't as necessary anymore.

xILLN355
09-02-2012, 03:07 PM
what are you talking about?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/07/javale-mcgee-wizards-nba-defense-video_n_1260150.html

art of the skyhook and defensive awareness right there

mvb815
09-02-2012, 03:30 PM
at 5'9 playing pg at the park i manage to slip in a few of these every game

it should be way more common than it is, but who knows, the nba goes through periods.

we could have yet to see a big man just come in and abuse it so bad 2k calls them and tells them to stop cheesing

KB-Pau-DH2012
09-02-2012, 03:53 PM
Dwight Howard. ;)

Lakerhead4ever
09-02-2012, 04:59 PM
Basketball has evolved. That's why.

Voodoo Alchemy
09-02-2012, 05:31 PM
Basketball has evolved. That's why.

no, the sky hook died cuz it looks gay like a ballet move.

GoPacers33
09-02-2012, 05:33 PM
Roy Hibbert still uses it

Voodoo Alchemy
09-02-2012, 05:36 PM
Roy Hibbert still uses it

so i proved my point

LAcowBOMBER
09-02-2012, 06:27 PM
I know Pau uses it all the time. Pretty sure Duncan does too

GoPacers33
09-02-2012, 07:55 PM
so i proved my point

I'm pretty sure there was a stat saying that his sky hook was one of or the most efficient shot in the NBA

Mave1002
09-02-2012, 08:26 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8oGv6ESXRM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBoChCNMAkI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bs9qp__wd-g

and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdSH5I4K80c

I wonder if we would get to see the brothers playing alongside each other in the NBA

Tmath
09-02-2012, 08:43 PM
Valanciunas has a nice baby hook, should see a few this season.

bagwell368
09-02-2012, 08:51 PM
Players, especially big men, are in such a hurry to get to the NBA and get paid that they don't work on developing post games anymore.

Don't blame the players, blame the coaches. It takes years of effort to develop back to the basket skills. It's assuming you have a player with the body and mind to take it on in the first place. Teaching a 6' 5" guy not named Barkley how to play low post is basically worthless.

It's much easier to teach a kid a face up jump shot game, and there are a lot more candidates.

With 3 pointers wing players and sharp shooters are much more important then in the old days.

Look at the NBA in the 1965-1980 time frame, dominated by bigs. Some bigs like Elvin Hayes played facing the basket, others like Kareem played with their backs backs to it. Moses just claimed the inside as his. Cowens roamed high and low.

meadowlarklemon
09-03-2012, 10:18 AM
of course, these are all baby hooks, not sky hooks. Only one man did the sky hook correctly.

btw, mchale had some post moves that were the most epic of all time and we rarely see those moves anymore, either

Red Hot Rolllin
09-03-2012, 10:53 AM
of course, these are all baby hooks, not sky hooks. Only one man did the sky hook correctly.

btw, mchale had some post moves that were the most epic of all time and we rarely see those moves anymore, either

On the money, all baby hooks.... the sky hook is way more deadly

RaiderLakersA's
09-03-2012, 12:18 PM
I'd just be happy if more big men would learn how to play with their backs to the basket. Lost art.

gwrighter
09-03-2012, 02:05 PM
Valanciunas has a nice baby hook, should see a few this season.

My thoughts exactly. That is one of his go-to moves in the post.

KnickaBocka.44
09-03-2012, 02:09 PM
Don't blame the players, blame the coaches. It takes years of effort to develop back to the basket skills. It's assuming you have a player with the body and mind to take it on in the first place. Teaching a 6' 5" guy not named Barkley how to play low post is basically worthless.

It's much easier to teach a kid a face up jump shot game, and there are a lot more candidates.

With 3 pointers wing players and sharp shooters are much more important then in the old days.

Look at the NBA in the 1965-1980 time frame, dominated by bigs. Some bigs like Elvin Hayes played facing the basket, others like Kareem played with their backs backs to it. Moses just claimed the inside as his. Cowens roamed high and low.


The players are the ones leaving; the coaches aren't making them. Barkley is the exception to the rule here so that is not a good example.

Players need to have some semblance of a post game before they get to the NBA in order to fine tune it once they get there.

Raph12
09-03-2012, 02:10 PM
lol - Is there a point behind these random clips of two D. Howard games that pale in comparison to what Kareem would do on a lazy Tuesday?

I wonder if D. Howard's ever had a complete game where he put up 35/17/5 with 4 blocks. Kareem averaged it for a season.

What a stupid thing to say from an otherwise intelligent poster, different era, different pace, different game... Ie: I wonder if Kareem's ever had a complete game where he put up 50/26/2 with 7-10 blocks. Wilt averaged it for a season.

No one is comparing Dwight to Kareem, the thread queston was "Death of the Skyhook - Where did it go?" he simply posted a couple of videos where Dwight hits the mini-skyhook and you bite his head off.

Keep it classy.

bagwell368
09-03-2012, 04:28 PM
of course, these are all baby hooks, not sky hooks. Only one man did the sky hook correctly.

btw, mchale had some post moves that were the most epic of all time and we rarely see those moves anymore, either

McHale is a top 5 low post player all time easily - nobody playing today rivals him.

bagwell368
09-03-2012, 04:33 PM
looks like crazy old grandpa forgot to take his meds again. shouldnt you be asleep by now gramps?

I make it a rule not to get all nasty with posters headed for permaban. :)

Not you of course.... you're stellar, so much content in your posts... :eyebrow:

AIMelo=KillaDUO
09-03-2012, 04:49 PM
I remember Yao using it alot