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Mave1002
08-28-2012, 10:40 PM
By HOOPSWORLD
Basketball News & NBA Rumors
Updated: August 28, 2012, 1:07 pm ET

http://www.hoopsworld.com/spencer-hawes-to-have-gasol-type-role/

“I want (Hawes) to play the Pau Gasol role with Bynum,” Collins said. “Both (Hawes and Gasol) like to play out on the perimeter because they can shoot the ball and are very good passers.” – Doug Collins, from Sixers.com

Hawes still can’t guard power forwards, but with the addition of Andrew Bynum, the Sixers have enough players to somewhat mask Hawes defensive deficiencies at the four. Because the Sixers have a legitimate defensive presence in the post, for the first time since Samuel Dalembert, Hawes will have legitimate help behind him, and won’t have to defend the opposing team’s best post scorer. And because starting Hawes at the four creates offensive balance for the rest of the starting lineup, it allows Collins to start a backcourt of Jrue Holiday andEvan Turner, without fear of inadequate floor spacing. And starting both Jrue Holiday and Evan Turner, gives the Sixers two above average perimeter defenders, to go along with Bynum’s defensive prowess in the post, so Hawes won’t be asked do too much defensively, other than stand there with his hands up.

On the other side of the ball, Hawes’ ability to “stretch the floor”, and pass from the high post, gives the Sixers a balanced offense – on paper – for the first time since I can remember. Jrue and Evan can both drive and dish. Dorell Wright or Jason Richardson can stand in the corner and shoot open threes. Spencer Hawes can find cutters and/or Bynum from the high post. And Andrew Bynum can do his thing from the post, without an excess of paint-traffic. And keeping Thaddeus Young on the bench plays to both his individual, and the team’s strength.

justinnum1
08-28-2012, 10:42 PM
:drunk:

DoMeFavors
08-28-2012, 10:43 PM
Well the thing is Hawes blows and is 1/10 of what Gasol is.

greg_ory_2005
08-28-2012, 10:44 PM
He can play whatever role he wants, he's still gonna be meh.

bucketss
08-28-2012, 10:47 PM
wait. bynum can shoot?

C-Style
08-28-2012, 10:55 PM
This reminds me of the "Lebron can defend all 5 position" comments. U can but does not mean u will succeed at it. :laugh2:

#1chickhearnfan
08-28-2012, 10:57 PM
Well the thing is Hawes blows and is 1/10 of what Gasol is.

True

Hellcrooner
08-28-2012, 10:57 PM
uh......im pretty certain Gasol does NOT like to be out in the perimeter and being forced to feed an inferior player.

Hellcrooner
08-28-2012, 10:58 PM
Sixers would be better off starting Kwame at Pf to be honest.

JLynn943
08-28-2012, 11:01 PM
:puke:

Anyway, this is Hawes' dream role. He complained about being asked to play physical and thinks he should just be playing outside the paint, so I'll be interested to see what happens. I like Philly, but the amount I loathe Spencer Hawes makes me want him to fail miserably.

Cal827
08-28-2012, 11:02 PM
Well the thing is Hawes blows and is 1/10 of what Gasol is.

Goddamn, I actually fully agree with DMF lol :D

sixer04fan
08-28-2012, 11:04 PM
As a Sixers fan, this makes me lol...

Nothing to see here people. Hawes is nowhere close to Gasol. Move along please before this turns into a Sixers bashing thread haha.

goku
08-28-2012, 11:04 PM
basically he just want hawes to stretch the floor

shep33
08-28-2012, 11:04 PM
Goddamn, I actually fully agree with DMF lol :D

:laugh:

SeoulBeatz
08-28-2012, 11:07 PM
Well the thing is Hawes blows and is 1/10 of what Gasol is.

I'll agree with this. Hawes sucks ***. Softest big in the league and was outplayed by 2nd round rookie lavoy Allen in the playoffs, which is why Im all for Allen or Thad young starting at pf.

#Shumpert Up
08-28-2012, 11:39 PM
cus hawes is even 10% of gasol -_-

Evolution23
08-28-2012, 11:55 PM
We talking Pau Gasol? The most skilled big man in the game? Just making sure.

Gram
08-28-2012, 11:58 PM
Well the thing is Hawes blows and is 1/10 of what Gasol is.

Yeah but if he was a Net he'd be an All Star.

goku
08-29-2012, 12:43 AM
^ very true

Knowledge
08-29-2012, 12:57 AM
Before I post this let me clarify - Gasol is one of the top big men in the NBA and Hawes is ideally a back up center on a good team. That said, a Bynum/Hawes combo has offensive potential and I can understand the theory behind it.

It will give Bynum more room to operate and Jrue/Turner another spot up option whenever they look to drive. Defensively, Hawes will still be Hawes. Personally, I think Lavoy Allen will eventually end up as the 4 and I believe Moultrie has a chance to grow into a nice complimentary 4 to Bynum with time (maybe not this year).

This Hawes thing is a experiment and will probably just be a lineup we use to start the game.


Though a good chunk of Hawes' 2011-12 season was lost to injury and then the aftereffects of his Achilles tendon and back woes, he still managed to roar out of the gate with a strong start to the season while showcasing an impressive passing touch. Raw assist totals like Hawes' 2.6 dimes a game won't blow your ears back, but when you factor in the other elements that go into appraising a player's work in dishing the ball — his position, the pace at which his team plays, his minutes, the attention he pays toward setting others up with the assist — Hawes' assist ratio of 17.6 from last season rivals Pau at his finest.

Assist ratio is the percentage of possessions a player uses up that end in an assist, and Hawes' mark from last season is both better than Gasol's percentage from last year (17.3), his career number (16.1), and the number Gasol gave us at Hawes' current age back in 2004 (14.9). In this one area, Hawes might have Pau matched.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/doug-collins-wants-spencer-hawes-play-pau-gasol-152708828--nba.html

koreancabbage
08-29-2012, 01:48 PM
he is still going to be Spencer Hawes.

KnicksorBust
08-29-2012, 02:14 PM
wait. bynum can shoot?

Re-read the quote. Hawes and Gasol can both shoot. That's the comparison.

I actually like it. Hawes has skills and was having a good season early in the year last year. Plus it is nice to have a big man to play with Bynum that won't clog the paint. I'm a Bynum believer and believe if they feed him the rock and give him room to operate, he's going to be huge next year.

JiffyMix88
08-29-2012, 02:24 PM
hahaha i still remember when we drafted noah how many disappointed bulls fans there were because we didnt draft hawes :facepalm:

chitownredbulls
08-29-2012, 02:29 PM
OMG..lol..Spencer Flaws sucks A*%.....sucked when with Kings. Sucks with Sixers....haha:facepalm:

netsgiantsyanks
08-29-2012, 02:52 PM
have fun with that.

naps
08-29-2012, 02:59 PM
This reminds me of the "Lebron can defend all 5 position" comments. U can but does not mean u will succeed at it. :laugh2:

LeBron can defend anybody on the planet besides may be 1 or 2 centers that are oversized for him and have good offensive game (Bynum and Bogut). He's one of, if not the most, versatile defenders in league history.

aaronmckie
08-29-2012, 03:48 PM
Hawes will tear his achiles trying to guard some quick power forward out on the perimeter

PleaseBeNice
08-29-2012, 03:58 PM
Hawes is Hawes. So there that is.

The Ooh Child
08-29-2012, 03:59 PM
cool story Doug Collins

KnicksorBust
08-29-2012, 04:00 PM
LeBron can defend anybody on the planet besides may be 1 or 2 centers that are oversized for him and have good offensive game (Bynum and Bogut). He's one of, if not the most, versatile defenders in league history.

:confused:

koreancabbage
08-29-2012, 04:16 PM
:confused:

Bogut is pretty good. He's one of, if not the best centers in this league when healthy. its a shame cuz he has a bright future of dominance if healthy

TrueFan420
08-29-2012, 06:25 PM
:confused:

Bogut has a solid post up game. A great passing game from the post low and high. And an ok face up game. His problem is staying healthy.

Federal Reserve
08-29-2012, 06:28 PM
Do the 76ers want Hawes to become soft and do nothing on defense?

C-Style
08-29-2012, 07:03 PM
LeBron can defend anybody on the planet besides may be 1 or 2 centers that are oversized for him and have good offensive game (Bynum and Bogut). He's one of, if not the most, versatile defenders in league history.

:laugh2: point proven

heyman321
08-29-2012, 07:12 PM
:laugh2: point proven

What's funny about that? Lebron CAN defend pretty much anyone except some centers. Rondo to Pau Gasol, you name it.

smith&wesson
08-29-2012, 07:15 PM
wow, the guys not that bad and he is young. you guys are giving him too much heat in here.

keetyweedy
08-29-2012, 08:34 PM
lol Hawes on his best night wouldn't come close to Gasol on his worst

yaswaggin
08-29-2012, 09:16 PM
spencer hawes sucks.

im telling you this is going to fail, 12 games in lavoy allen will start, and in 2 years moultrie will start.

koreancabbage
08-29-2012, 11:30 PM
if the same role as being another big on the floor, then yes. Spencer Hawes will have the same role as Gasol.

Raps08-09 Champ
08-29-2012, 11:31 PM
Can he even play PF?

bholly
08-30-2012, 03:10 AM
'scapegoat' is a role, you guys.

naps
08-30-2012, 05:00 AM
:confused:

Bogut is pretty good offensively (and defensively). I am not sure why you are so confused of.



:laugh2: point proven

What's proven? Who can LeBron not defend except a few centers (just because they have height advantage)? LeBron has defended from point guards to centers in the NBA and in the olympics. Anyone who watches LeBron knows he's the most versatile defender on the planet, by far. Hating is probably not all that bad in spots but don't take to an unhealthy level like you are doing.

SeoulBeatz
08-30-2012, 05:09 AM
Do the 76ers want Hawes to become soft and do nothing on defense?

He already does that.

YoungOne
08-30-2012, 05:33 AM
they should start thad young at PF

thenaj17
08-30-2012, 05:47 AM
Well the thing is Hawes blows and is 1/10 of what Gasol is.

A little disrespectful...to Gasol.

Hawes is a slightly better shooter but is nowhere near the playmaker, passer, post up player, defender that Gasol is.

Aleksandar
08-30-2012, 06:01 AM
What's with Thaddeus Young? I thought he would break into the starting lineup by now..

Maybe he'd be better off somewhere where he can start, and have a bigger role offensively?

yaswaggin
08-30-2012, 07:00 AM
What's with Thaddeus Young? I thought he would break into the starting lineup by now..

Maybe he'd be better off somewhere where he can start, and have a bigger role offensively?

thad is better suited off the bench because he's pretty much a mismatch guy. He doesn't have a true position because hes in between a SF and PF.

dodie53
08-30-2012, 07:03 AM
goodluck