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BobbyHillSwag
08-27-2012, 03:24 PM
I have some questions about it:

1. How many different players have done it since the 80's(I left out the 60's and 70's era because of the pace)?

2. what would be the ideal fg% to make shooting that much acceptable?

3. Do you think you have to take plenty of bad shots to get that many shots off in a game?

4. Has any player ever shot under 40% while taking that many shots?

5.Has anyone ever scored under 40 while taking that many shots(lmao)?

GiantsSwaGG
08-27-2012, 03:26 PM
Kobe

mvb815
08-27-2012, 03:26 PM
if you shoot 40 times you better have a hot streak or 2 in there.

i'm sure all this could be found on google though

Jagged QT
08-27-2012, 03:47 PM
Nique fits the entire OP.....

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/198802190ATL.html

StarvingKnick22
08-27-2012, 03:54 PM
Monta Ellis did it consecutive times. One of the main reasons why he was traded...

JNoel
08-27-2012, 03:56 PM
Nique fits the entire OP.....

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/198802190ATL.html

Was I looking at the Lakers, or the all-star team? lol

KB-Pau-DH2012
08-27-2012, 03:59 PM
2 instances off the top of my head.


Kobe in Boston in November of 2002 dropped 41 on 47 shot attempts, but the Lakers lost in OT.


Second instance was the 81 pt game, going 28-42 from the field against the Raps.


Ideal FG% I would like it to be above 50%, and the team winning the contest.

seikou8
08-27-2012, 04:01 PM
you should at least be 21-40 kobe,melo,ellis and maybe derrick rose

Lakersfan2483
08-27-2012, 04:01 PM
MJ has done it before, Wilt of course, Kobe. I remember Jordan doing it against Utah in Game 6 of the finals in which he barely shot over .40pct, however he had the key steal and game winning shot against Bryon Russell to win the title.

Hellcrooner
08-27-2012, 04:03 PM
ill only allow one of my players if they hit

50% guards and wings.
65% Bigs.

Otherwise you are just screwing the TEAM

BobbyHillSwag
08-27-2012, 04:06 PM
you should at least be 21-40 kobe,melo,ellis and maybe derrick rose

i dont think melo or derrick rose has ever shot 40 times I didnt know ellis did either till this thread. damn. smh at nique though, how dont you get atleast 40 points if you are taking 40 shots? nique was still a dawg though.

BobbyHillSwag
08-27-2012, 04:07 PM
Iverson did it in the finals against the lakers. He shot 18-41, which isnt bad but if you shouldnt be shooting that much if you are not hot.

AIMelo=KillaDUO
08-27-2012, 04:09 PM
I'm sure AI did it once. Or twice. :laugh2:

Swashcuff
08-27-2012, 04:10 PM
http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pgl_finder.cgi?request=1&player_id=&match=game&year_min=&year_max=&age_min=0&age_max=99&team_id=&opp_id=&is_playoffs=&round_is_ec1=Y&round_is_ecs=Y&round_is_ecf=Y&round_is_wc1=Y&round_is_wcs=Y&round_is_wcf=Y&round_is_fin=Y&game_num_type=&game_num_min=&game_num_max=&game_month=&game_location=&game_result=&is_starter=&is_active=&is_hof=&pos_is_g=Y&pos_is_gf=Y&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_fg=Y&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&c1stat=fga&c1comp=gt&c1val=40&c2stat=&c2comp=gt&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=gt&c3val=&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&order_by=pts

Most of your answers right there

JOhnnyTHaJet
08-27-2012, 04:12 PM
I think Chris Webber had like 46 or 47, I can't remember.

Swashcuff
08-27-2012, 04:16 PM
Allen Iverson has the best winning % (minimum two such games) of any player who attempted 40+ FGs in a game since 1985 :p

BobbyHillSwag
08-27-2012, 04:27 PM
http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pgl_finder.cgi?request=1&player_id=&match=game&year_min=&year_max=&age_min=0&age_max=99&team_id=&opp_id=&is_playoffs=&round_is_ec1=Y&round_is_ecs=Y&round_is_ecf=Y&round_is_wc1=Y&round_is_wcs=Y&round_is_wcf=Y&round_is_fin=Y&game_num_type=&game_num_min=&game_num_max=&game_month=&game_location=&game_result=&is_starter=&is_active=&is_hof=&pos_is_g=Y&pos_is_gf=Y&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_fg=Y&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&c1stat=fga&c1comp=gt&c1val=40&c2stat=&c2comp=gt&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=gt&c3val=&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&order_by=pts

Most of your answers right there


wow thanks dude, this is interesting

1. Besides Godbe's 81 point game, he has shot under 50% each time, which was 7 times :speechless:

2. Iverson has had 50 points and shot 50% exactly each time he did it :speechless:

3. Jordan and Godbe are the only ones that have shot under 40% while doing it :speechless:

4. Wilkins is the only player that didnt get 40 while doing it

5. Ellis never shot 40 times :rolleyes: unless this list is inaccurate

6. Every player on this list was elite with the exception of zach randolph and he is atleast a good player. Interesting.

7. Every player was under 30 when they did it besides Hakeems old *** and he did it at 34 lmao.

8. The win loss record is 9-12 when a player shoots 40 times since 85.

9. 3 times a player has shot over 10 3point attempts and they were all godbe.

10. It hasnt happened since 07, is this the new era?

davids22
08-27-2012, 04:27 PM
http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pgl_finder.cgi?request=1&player_id=&match=game&year_min=&year_max=&age_min=0&age_max=99&team_id=&opp_id=&is_playoffs=&round_is_ec1=Y&round_is_ecs=Y&round_is_ecf=Y&round_is_wc1=Y&round_is_wcs=Y&round_is_wcf=Y&round_is_fin=Y&game_num_type=&game_num_min=&game_num_max=&game_month=&game_location=&game_result=&is_starter=&is_active=&is_hof=&pos_is_g=Y&pos_is_gf=Y&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_fg=Y&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&c1stat=fga&c1comp=gt&c1val=40&c2stat=&c2comp=gt&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=gt&c3val=&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&order_by=pts

Most of your answers right there

Breakdown of the list of 25 times that criteria was met
Kobe: 8 times
Michael: 7 times
Iverson: 4 times
Shaq, Nique, C. Webber, D. Robinson, Z. Bo, Hakeem: 1 time each

davids22
08-27-2012, 04:29 PM
wow thanks dude, this is interesting

1. Besides Godbe's 81 point game, he has shot under 50% each time, which was 7 times :speechless:

2. Iverson has had 50 points and shot 50% exactly each time he did it :speechless:

3. Jordan and Godbe are the only ones that have shot under 40% while doing it :speechless:

4. Wilkins is the only player that didnt get 40 while doing it

5. Ellis never shot 40 times :rolleyes: unless this list is inaccurate

6. Every player on this list was elite with the exception of zach randolph and he is atleast a good player. Interesting.

7. Every player was under 30 when they did it besides Hakeems old *** and he did it at 34 lmao.

8. The win loss record is 9-12 when a player shoots 40 times since 85.

9. 3 times a player has shot over 10 3point attempts and they were all godbe.

10. It hasnt happened since 07, is this the new era?

Also, not one of those players had more than 6 assists in those games (except Kobe, who had 8 assists in one of them).

ChiSox219
08-27-2012, 04:34 PM
OKC needs to get KD on that list asap

RealLiveBear
08-27-2012, 04:35 PM
Nique fits the entire OP.....

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/198802190ATL.html

Damn, Magic didn't have a good game or anything!:clap:

davids22
08-27-2012, 04:37 PM
OKC needs to get KD on that list asap

??? I wouldn't necessarily say that being on this list is an accomplishment. Yeah there are legendary players on that list, but the win-loss record of those games is 11-14. That shows that being a ballhog is great for an individual performance and doesn't equate to team success. I'm sure KD wouldn't enjoy scoring 60+ points if it meant his team lost the game.

BobbyHillSwag
08-27-2012, 04:40 PM
??? I wouldn't necessarily say that being on this list is an accomplishment. Yeah there are legendary players on that list, but the win-loss record of those games is 11-14. That shows that being a ballhog is great for an individual performance and doesn't equate to team success. I'm sure KD wouldn't enjoy scoring 60+ points if it meant his team lost the game.

Lets get melo on the list then :dance:

ChiSox219
08-27-2012, 04:41 PM
??? I wouldn't necessarily say that being on this list is an accomplishment. Yeah there are legendary players on that list, but the win-loss record of those games is 11-14. That shows that being a ballhog is great for an individual performance and doesn't equate to team success. I'm sure KD wouldn't enjoy scoring 60+ points if it meant his team lost the game.

I don't think OKC would lose but I'm not saying do it during the Finals or plan it out. Some random winter night when KD has that look in his eyes and a hot start, maybe Harden and Westbrook decide to just keep feeding him the ball. If there's anyone in the league right now that can score 70, it's KD.

BobbyHillSwag
08-27-2012, 04:46 PM
I don't think OKC would lose but I'm bit saying do it during the Finals or plan it out. Some random winter night when KD has that look in his eyes and a hot start, maybe Harden and Westbrook decide to just keep feeding him the ball. If there's anyone in the league right now that can score 70, it's KD.

There's alot of players on that list that could of scored 70 if they wanted too besides maybe chris webber and zach randolph every one of those players could of scored 70. Iverson could of a couple of times believe it or not he wasnt the stat padding ball hog people made him out to be. Also, you know godbe and jordan could have done it.

JasonJohnHorn
08-27-2012, 04:54 PM
You might as well exclude the 80s as well, because the tempo was just as quick then.

the slower pace didn't come out until the early 90's. The Pistons were a defence-first team, but they could score. The Bulls were the same, but for the second three-peat the pace was a lot slower. The Bulls were more about defence then, as were the Knicks and following suit were the Heat. Lenny Wilkens and Mike Fratello took over a couple of different teams and slowed the pace down to prevent the leads from getting out of hand. And with teams like the Pistons, Bulls and Knicks, all doing well with defence-first teams, other teams followed the template and constructed their teams likewise.


So more like, since the 90's whose shot 40 shots in a game. And I know Kobe did. I imagine Jordan has as well. Because they are both ball hogs.

Cal827
08-27-2012, 04:55 PM
Melo, Durant (Westbrick?), Rose, and Tyson Chandler next to get on this list.

xxplayerxx23
08-27-2012, 05:00 PM
Melo Came close lol

BobbyHillSwag
08-27-2012, 05:00 PM
Lmao at tyson chandler. Im not sure if he has ever put up 15 shots.

MadBomber
08-27-2012, 05:03 PM
ill only allow one of my players if they hit

50% guards and wings.
65% bigs.

Otherwise you are just screwing the team

+1

Jagged QT
08-27-2012, 05:13 PM
Damn, Magic didn't have a good game or anything!:clap:

huh? 29/19/11 isn't good?

BobbyHillSwag
08-27-2012, 05:15 PM
^even if you cant detect sarcasm on the internet, you wont get a pass for this post.

Losoway
08-27-2012, 05:17 PM
kobe does it once every 5 games

Jagged QT
08-27-2012, 05:17 PM
^even if you cant detect sarcasm on the internet, you wont get a pass for this post.

You never know, you had a dude saying Kris Hump was a better player Melo too earlier.

UPRock
08-27-2012, 05:20 PM
kobe does it once every 5 games

:laugh2:

BobbyHillSwag
08-27-2012, 05:21 PM
Just assume he was being sarcastic too, no one is that stupid.

BobbyHillSwag
08-27-2012, 05:21 PM
kobe does it once every 5 games

:clap: How great is our god?

mvb815
08-27-2012, 05:26 PM
if zbo could do it anybody with a quick trigger and no remorse could

michael beasley

Cal827
08-27-2012, 05:30 PM
^ LOL, might as well add to random predictions

Ellis
Javale Mcgee (Trying to get another triple double)
Brandon Jennings
Dnewguy (The next Heat-Knick game, I guarantee that he'll take at least 40 shots at Knick fans)

davids22
08-27-2012, 05:35 PM
^ LOL, might as well add to random predictions

Ellis
Brandon Jennings

As a Bucks fan, I don't know whether to be excited about that prediction or embarrassed.

SirSkyHook
08-27-2012, 05:44 PM
According to that list

Kobe teams are 4-4 :mad:

But MJ's teams are 1-5:speechless: :puke:

Bad legends!!! Bad legends!!! :punish:

BobbyHillSwag
08-27-2012, 06:20 PM
According to that list

Kobe teams are 4-4 :mad:

But MJ's teams are 1-5:speechless: :puke:

Bad legends!!! Bad legends!!! :punish:

Iverson 3-1 scored 50 each time except once and shot over 50% each time except once. GODVERSON does it again

asandhu23
08-27-2012, 06:35 PM
Monta's never shot 40+ times. its a ****ing PSD myth.


here look. http://www.nba.com/playerfile/monta_ellis/career_stats.html

most field goals attempted: 39. never crossed 40 line.


http://sports.espn.go.com/fantasy/basketball/fba/story?page=hardcorenba101223

Averaged 20 FG attempts per game on a team where his offense was seriously needed. You can see Curry there too. Those guys were the main offense providers.

Raps18-19 Champ
08-27-2012, 06:40 PM
Wilt averaged 39.5 FGA in a season.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/c/chambwi01.html

asandhu23
08-27-2012, 06:55 PM
Wilt averaged 39.5 FGA in a season.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/c/chambwi01.html

Well, that's because ( I forget which coach ) told him to shoot more often and his team mates to pass the ball to him like never before.

Sactown
08-27-2012, 07:44 PM
It's not ever acceptable, look at the top 25 Field goals made by a single player and then look at the winning percentage... it's 44%... this includes MJ.. who's has a 14% winning percentage, when taking over 40 shots

Tony_Starks
08-27-2012, 08:08 PM
2 myths dispelled in this:

1- Monta Ellis is a shot happy maniac. LIES.

2- The old "so and so" could have got 81 points too if they felt like it. There were players on that list that took MORE shots than Kobe did and still never came close to 81.

seikou8
08-27-2012, 09:54 PM
2 myths dispelled in this:

1- Monta Ellis is a shot happy maniac. LIES.

2- The old "so and so" could have got 81 points too if they felt like it. There were players on that list that took MORE shots than Kobe did and still never came close to 81.

he still is but not as i thought

b@llhog24
08-27-2012, 10:12 PM
Suprised Gilbert isn't on that list.

b@llhog24
08-27-2012, 10:15 PM
NYK needs to get Shumpert on that list asap

Fixed. :D

basketfan4life
08-28-2012, 06:17 AM
??? I wouldn't necessarily say that being on this list is an accomplishment. Yeah there are legendary players on that list, but the win-loss record of those games is 11-14. That shows that being a ballhog is great for an individual performance and doesn't equate to team success. I'm sure KD wouldn't enjoy scoring 60+ points if it meant his team lost the game.

The thing is they are not doing it for the sake of ballhogging. They do it when there are crappy players around them and there is no way of winning with a lot of sharing.

BobbyHillSwag
08-28-2012, 08:52 AM
The thing is they are not doing it for the sake of ballhogging. They do it when there are crappy players around them and there is no way of winning with a lot of sharing.

exactly people dont understand that. Notice Iverson's team winning percentages are high when he does it, because he was dropping 50. kobe's was low because he shot a little worse than iverson but he had bad teams when he was doing it. Even in 2002 where he shot 17-47, i think shaq was injured. It's nothing to do with ball hogging besides maybe zach randolph lmao

SirSkyHook
08-28-2012, 01:13 PM
2 myths dispelled in this:

1- Monta Ellis is a shot happy maniac. LIES.

2- The old "so and so" could have got 81 points too if they felt like it. There were players on that list that took MORE shots than Kobe did and still never came close to 81.

:clap: Didnt even think of that but you my friend have a valid point lol

SirSkyHook
08-28-2012, 01:24 PM
The thing is they are not doing it for the sake of ballhogging. They do it when there are crappy players around them and there is no way of winning with a lot of sharing.

I understand, but if your shooting 40+ shots in a game and making less than atleast 45% to 50% of them, maybe you should do other things to help them win like pass the ball a few times. I mean if you start off on fire the defence will be focus on you and you should be drawing doubles. If your not being doubled than that means your chucking, and the other team is enjoying watching you shoot your team out of the game. Hey but Like i said if your on and making close to half of them, and its helpiing your team do your thing, i love watching greatness at work.

Jesse2272
08-28-2012, 01:45 PM
Nique fits the entire OP.....

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/198802190ATL.html

Magic had a sick game