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JerseyPalahniuk
08-27-2012, 03:04 PM
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8302963/2012-nba-summer-forecast-team-turnaround

The teams, how many votes they got from the 100 sportswriters and adjusted win total last year in an 82 game season.

1. Brooklyn (35 votes) 28 wins
2. Golden State (12 votes) 29 wins
2. Minnesota (12 votes) 32 wins
4. Hornets (9 votes) 26 wins
5. Lakers (7 votes) 50 wins
6. Wizards (6 votes) 25 wins

Look I didn't post this to hype up my own team so if you don't think the Nets will be the team that improves the most thats cool. This is more of a discussion on all these teams and their overall turnround

Do you agree with the teams on this list?

How many more wins could these teams have this season?

Hawkeye15
08-27-2012, 03:12 PM
I disagree with the order

Brooklyn- 47 wins (+19)
Minnesota- 46 wins (+14)
Hornets- 37 wins (+11 wins)
Golden State- 39 wins (+10)
Wizards- 33 wins (+8)
Lakers- 56 wins (+6)

Philapsychosis
08-27-2012, 03:12 PM
It's probably right. Nets sucked last year, and should be ok at least this year.

mvb815
08-27-2012, 03:24 PM
unless it's 20+ i don't think it really matters, it was a lockout shortened season.

JerseyPalahniuk
08-27-2012, 03:24 PM
I disagree with the order

Brooklyn- 47 wins (+19)
Minnesota- 46 wins (+14)
Hornets- 37 wins (+11 wins)
Golden State- 39 wins (+10)
Wizards- 33 wins (+8)
Lakers- 56 wins (+6)

Yeah the order posted was irrelevant because they only "voted" for 1 team and not 2nd or 3rd most improved. I don't like these polls ESPNs putting up because the questions so vague: "Biggest turnaround?" It was good to have a solid list though. And yeah that list you have makes sense although I think they wizards may improve more than that if Wall actually improves this year - and Beal plays with possible Rookie of the Year expectations.

JerseyPalahniuk
08-27-2012, 03:25 PM
unless it's 20+ i don't think it really matters, it was a lockout shortened season.

Not sure what you mean? It definitely "matters" to a team to win 19 more games than it did in its past..

I also put the adjusted wins for a full length season.

Hawkeye15
08-27-2012, 03:25 PM
Yeah the order posted was irrelevant because they only "voted" for 1 team and not 2nd or 3rd most improved. I don't like these polls ESPNs putting up because the questions so vague: "Biggest turnaround?" It was good to have a solid list though. And yeah that list you have makes sense although I think they wizards may improve more than that if Wall actually improves this year - and Beal plays with possible Rookie of the Year expectations.

I like their team on paper. Two words: Randy Whittman. Watching him look around like he didn't know where he was for a season and a half made me realize he has no clue how to coach or develop a basketball player.

mvb815
08-27-2012, 03:28 PM
Not sure what you mean? It definitely "matters" to a team to win 19 more games than it did in its past..

I also put the adjusted wins for a full length season.

the projected wins you would have got if it was extended don't mean anything, teams are looking to increase from their total wins, not their total projected wins.

JerseyPalahniuk
08-27-2012, 03:31 PM
I like their team on paper. Two words: Randy Whittman. Watching him look around like he didn't know where he was for a season and a half made me realize he has no clue how to coach or develop a basketball player.

Part of that could also because he played with players (McGee and Blatche) that literally did not kow where they were on the court at times. And Nick Young/Crawford who think they are Kobe Bryant. With a full training camp they could improve them substantially. 8 wins actually seems reasonable but they could win around 35 games. Was just looking for something to disagree with for the point of discussion haha

JerseyPalahniuk
08-27-2012, 03:33 PM
the projected wins you would have got if it was extended don't mean anything, teams are looking to increase from their total wins, not their total projected wins.

Okay well Brooklyn finished 22-44 last year. I think is reasonable to expect them to win 20 more games and finish .500 (42-42). Why is 20 wins the cutoff? Even 15 seems to be a dramatic improvement.

StarvingKnick22
08-27-2012, 04:36 PM
45 wins is the net ceiling IMO. but hey its not like ESPN hires anybody. (sarcasm)

Hawkeye15
08-27-2012, 05:16 PM
Well I know that. Basing it on his Wolves tenure as well. Lots of new players, and the Wiz getting near .500 would be a huge step. I still think Nets, then Wolves lead this. The Wolves projected to win 43 games in an 82 game season when Rubio's injury started rhe downfall, so in reality, adding 14 wins to their total is easy.

bholly
08-27-2012, 06:57 PM
I like that they put GSW up there - glad I'm not the only one.

Monta is beast
08-27-2012, 07:07 PM
I like that they put GSW up there - glad I'm not the only one.

Haha your not though bro!

IndyRealist
08-27-2012, 07:10 PM
I see Washington pushing for a playoff spot, so between 36-38 wins. Wall and Beal will get all the credit, and Ariza and Okafor will be underappreciated.

I love Golden State's draft picks. If Andrew Bogut is healthy, they're going to have a huge turnaround.

I also like the Wolves this year. They got rid of a bunch of underperformers and got some real players. Contender? No. Playoffs? Possibly.

KnickNyKnick
08-27-2012, 07:33 PM
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8302963/2012-nba-summer-forecast-team-turnaround

The teams, how many votes they got from the 100 sportswriters and adjusted win total last year in an 82 game season.

1. Brooklyn (35 votes) 28 wins
2. Golden State (12 votes) 29 wins
2. Minnesota (12 votes) 32 wins
4. Hornets (9 votes) 26 wins
5. Lakers (7 votes) 50 wins
6. Wizards (6 votes) 25 wins

Look I didn't post this to hype up my own team so if you don't think the Nets will be the team that improves the most thats cool. This is more of a discussion on all these teams and their overall turnround

Do you agree with the teams on this list?

How many more wins could these teams have this season?

so wait they predict the nets will have 28 wins? i think thats about right :cool:

Sactown
08-27-2012, 07:52 PM
Knicks fans need to stop being *****es about the Nets... We get it, you hate them and you want them to suck, shut up already! I can't imagine the Lakers winning that many more games, and I think the bobcats should be up there! seems like there's no way they don't win at least 10 more games

Tony_Starks
08-27-2012, 08:16 PM
Lakers could sleepwalk through the season and get 60 with the squad they have. Easy. But yeah I look for the Nets and probably NO to have maybe 20+ win turnarounds. Washington should but like Hawkeye said Whitman is a horrible coach, he's getting jobs strictly name recognition at this point......

spreadeagle
08-27-2012, 08:18 PM
Although I would like to say my Raptors should be on here, I think with 3 rookies playing pretty big rolls, and the addition of Fields Lucas and Lowry as well it may take a while for them to gel. Warriors could be exciting IF Curry and Bogut stay healthy...huge if lol

xxplayerxx23
08-27-2012, 08:45 PM
Gsw!

xxplayerxx23
08-27-2012, 08:47 PM
Nets will win 44-48 games so there up there. Wolves will win 46-48 as well. GSW I love them Barnes for ROY. I like them to win 45 games. :)

Hawkeye15
08-28-2012, 08:50 AM
GS is such a crapshoot. If they can stay healthy, which is a big if considering their best two players have just missed so much time with injuries, they could make a nice improvement and challenge for a playoff spot. But I am not confident in 75 game seasons for Bogut and Curry.