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Lewisknows
08-25-2012, 09:52 PM
I was sitting around and I came across Kareem stats this guy was ballin 38,000 points 6 Mvps 6 time champion 16 time Allstar and don't get any credit why? Of being top 5 or top 2 but I know some of will say Jordan magic globally but Kobe more global than Lebron but who's better now kareem to me should be number one hands down

bholly
08-25-2012, 09:54 PM
He gets mentioned every time anyone makes any sort of list about the best of all time. There's that whole thing with the Lakers and the statue and all that, but other than that he gets plenty of credit.

knicks=love
08-25-2012, 09:54 PM
who doesn't give him credit?

Lewisknows
08-25-2012, 09:57 PM
Iam talking about the best ever above mike

J4KOP99
08-25-2012, 10:08 PM
He wasn't as flashy

NYMetros
08-25-2012, 10:09 PM
Many people consider him the 2nd best player of all time. Everyone has him in their top 5. Not sure what you mean lol.

bholly
08-25-2012, 10:14 PM
Well Jordan had 6 championships and 6 MVPs, too. If you're saying he should be considered the best because of 38,000 points and 19 All Star appearances (even though you said 16), then you're essentially giving it to him for longevity. The reason other people don't put him at #1 is that they don't factor in extreme longevity as much.

conway429
08-25-2012, 10:19 PM
never heard of him

Lewisknows
08-25-2012, 10:22 PM
Come on people have Lebron over him now it like
Jordan,magic,wilt,bird,then Lebron smh I just saying today media also doesn't give him credit also

b@llhog24
08-25-2012, 10:29 PM
If anyone has one of Kaj, Wilt, Jordan or Shaq as their personal GOAT I wouldn't be mad.

BobbyHillSwag
08-25-2012, 10:31 PM
who has lebron over him besides the mentally ********?

MTar786
08-26-2012, 03:27 AM
If anyone has one of Kaj, Wilt, Jordan or Shaq as their personal GOAT I wouldn't be mad.

agreed. i dont think magic, bird, kobe and lebron had/have it in them to be goat.. but could all be considered top 3 one day imo

those 4 mentioned were players with utter dominance. infact shaq was imo the most dominating of the 4 above. all of em were in their own ways..

smiddy012
08-26-2012, 04:36 AM
If anyone has one of Kaj, Wilt, Jordan or Shaq as their personal GOAT I wouldn't be mad.

Anybody who has Shaq as their GOAT is ********.

b@llhog24
08-26-2012, 04:42 AM
If anyone has one of Kaj, Wilt, Jordan or Shaq as their personal GOAT I wouldn't be mad.

Anybody who has Shaq as their GOAT is ********.

How so?

smiddy012
08-26-2012, 04:51 AM
I was sitting around and I came across Kareem stats this guy was ballin 38,000 points 6 Mvps 6 time champion 16 time Allstar and don't get any credit why? Of being top 5 or top 2 but I know some of will say Jordan magic globally but Kobe more global than Lebron but who's better now kareem to me should be number one hands down

Kareem had Magic Johnson and James Worthy yet MJ had the same number of MVPs and Championships as Kareem. Please explain again how KAJ was better than MJ? It's obvious you haven't been on this site often as KAJ is pretty much always in people's top 5s. Plus the argument for MJ as GOAT is bullet-proof.

smiddy012
08-26-2012, 04:58 AM
How so?

Because there's no way in hell a player who only had one season MVP is the GOAT. Shaq didn't even maximize his potential as a player.

naps
08-26-2012, 05:17 AM
GOAT? Hell NO! Jordan is the GOAT by a considerable margin. Jordan dominates in every aspect of the game like no other; Be it accolades, be it stats (regular season or post season). However, Kareem probably has the most extensive resume for the #2 spot. As long as he's in top 3 he's rated properly.

And as for Shaq, if he had maximized his talent and potential he would certainly challenge Jordan for the GOAT but he hadn't so it's redundant. Shaq is a top 5 in my book though.

dodie53
08-26-2012, 06:06 AM
who has lebron over him besides the mentally ********?

haha.
i agree with you

PhillyFaninLA
08-26-2012, 06:51 AM
His problem is he played an era before cable TV, the internet, and social media.

A lot of people even in his own time may never have seen play. Except from the odd televised game.

3ballbomber
08-26-2012, 06:56 AM
Kareema bdul-Jabbar?

never heard of her

Blue_Ninja
08-26-2012, 07:09 AM
Anybody who has Shaq as their GOAT is ********.

I don't have him as my GOAT but he was probably one of, if not the best dominating forces in basketball.

BobbyHillSwag
08-26-2012, 08:26 AM
I don't have him as my GOAT but he was probably one of, if not the best dominating forces in basketball.

not true, it's actually a good argument when you consider shaq, at his best, may have been better than any other player ever. You dont set the criteria whoever judging does.