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JasonJohnHorn
08-19-2012, 06:26 PM
Everybody always argue stats back and forth. They say the old guys ran a quicker tempo game and had more possessions, and that some of the giants from back in the day would struggle today. So my question is simple: Which 60's player would you most like to see play to day, just to see how intergenerational changes would impact stats.

The first three that come to my mind are: Wilt (100 points in one game) the Big O (averaged a 3D) and Russell... mostly because I want to see how many blocks he would get since they didn't keep track of that back in the day. And maybe Elgin Baylor as well.


Who would you most like to see?

KnicksorBust
08-19-2012, 06:43 PM
Wilt's funny because I don't think anyone really doubts that his game would translate. He was 7'1 and could bench press 500lbs. That'll get the job done in any era.

To truly test how great the players from that era are you'd really need to see the following guys:

Cousy
Baylor
Russell

A point guard. A dynamic wing (arguably the first "above the rim" type player). A defensive center.

dhopisthename
08-19-2012, 06:45 PM
wilt without question for me

xxplayerxx23
08-19-2012, 06:53 PM
Wilt.

StarvingKnick22
08-19-2012, 07:01 PM
Wilt. he knew how to take advangtage of his height. also, he didnt go a game without a double-double.

Chronz
08-19-2012, 07:06 PM
Just out of curiosity Pettit, Bellamy, Billy Cunningham

KnicksorBust
08-19-2012, 07:11 PM
I knew people would say Wilt. It's a waste of an answer. Is there anyone who really doubts that he wouldn't be a 25-12 all-star player? Yes it'd be "cool" to watch him play but it wouldn't tell me anything about the talent of that era. Cousy-Baylor-Russell were the SUPERSTARS of the league but their skills don't translate nearly as well as Chamberlain.

xxplayerxx23
08-19-2012, 07:15 PM
I think he would average more then 12 rebounds a game ?

JOhnnyTHaJet
08-19-2012, 07:20 PM
Easily Oscar Robertson, he was such an amazing player and not many mention him when talking about all-time greats.

Second, I'd go Elgin Baylor. Dynamic scorer and a dynamic rebounder.

BobbyHillSwag
08-19-2012, 07:21 PM
id want to see oscar roberston or however you spell his name. I think some 60's players would be exposed but some players, like wilt, would dominate the league today. Oscar is one that would be exposed

Chronz
08-19-2012, 07:29 PM
id want to see oscar roberston or however you spell his name. I think some 60's players would be exposed but some players, like wilt, would dominate the league today. Oscar is one that would be exposed
Explanation required.

KnicksorBust
08-19-2012, 07:30 PM
id want to see oscar roberston or however you spell his name. I think some 60's players would be exposed but some players, like wilt, would dominate the league today. Oscar is one that would be exposed

I disagree. Oscar was the LeBron of that era. In fact, I think the safest bets to stay near the top of the league would be Oscar and Wilt. They were both talented, athletic, strong, and quick for their size.

Jagged QT
08-19-2012, 07:37 PM
I knew people would say Wilt. It's a waste of an answer. Is there anyone who really doubts that he wouldn't be a 25-12 all-star player? Yes it'd be "cool" to watch him play but it wouldn't tell me anything about the talent of that era. Cousy-Baylor-Russell were the SUPERSTARS of the league but their skills don't translate nearly as well as Chamberlain.

in this era? Wilt get way more than that.

30-15 in his prime easily.

juggla53
08-19-2012, 07:52 PM
in this era, considering that you have to look at the advances in training and nutritional technology/information from the 1960's Wilt would absolutely dominate

Wilt it one of the greatest athletes ever he was a 7'0 track star who dominated in three sports (track, volley ball, and of course basketball) and he got more *** then a toilet seat, which cant be over looked.

Chacarron
08-19-2012, 07:54 PM
I'd like to see Jerry West.

Lake_Show2416
08-19-2012, 07:55 PM
Russell to show how he doesnt even compare to todays athletes

Chronz
08-19-2012, 08:13 PM
Russell to show how he doesnt even compare to todays athletes

I hear this alot, I agree he would lose much of what made him so unique, but it was partly because he was such an athlete that he had that impact. 6"10, long, quick, agile, cunning, and intelligent. I think he does great nowadays, but he wouldnt have the same impact on a teams defense as he used to.

BobbyHillSwag
08-19-2012, 08:22 PM
Explanation required.

Tbh, it's more of an ignorant guess based on a few highlights ive seen. Ive never saw much of wilt but I did see a full game of wilt play against a college team and some other highlights. Wilt had skills much better than any center in the game today. Just an ignorant statement about Oscar Robertson based on the little video Ive seen of him :o

Raph12
08-20-2012, 12:27 AM
Bill Russell; he had the tenacity to dominate the boards a la Rodman, but I don't think he'd be as dominant defensively, maybe closer to KG than Big Ben IMO.

Utd7
08-20-2012, 12:30 AM
I would love to see Havlicek but I'm biased he's my second favorite all time Celtic.

Lakers + Giants
08-20-2012, 02:07 AM
Wilt, Big O, Baylor, West, and Russell.

UPRock
08-20-2012, 02:14 AM
Wilt no doubt, I would pay to see him beat the **** out of Howard on the court.

Steelers23_06
08-20-2012, 02:15 AM
definitely wilt. i say he averages 30ppg 18 rpg. he is dominant and we have NO dominant bigs in the league...havent since shaq left his prime. man if we put prime shaq, wilt, dream, kareem in the league today they win 5-6 straight bc we have no bigs capable of stopping them...boy do i miss the battle of giants that we had for so long i guess now all we have is diwght vs bynum...yayyyyy :rolleyes:

LakersMaster24
08-20-2012, 02:30 AM
If Mikan played in this era he wouldnt even be considered in the Top 100...

Id love to see either Oscar or Baylor play in this era.

Mave1002
08-20-2012, 02:52 AM
Wilt no doubt, I would pay to see him beat the **** out of Howard on the court.

He's mad :D

UPRock
08-20-2012, 02:58 AM
He's mad :D

Who's mad? I'm saying the truth, people nowadays call the Centers currently playing the game "Great" without seeing the Shaqs, Hakeems and Robinsons. I'd bet a prime Wilt Chamberlain in todays game is the best center in the game.

asandhu23
08-20-2012, 03:08 AM
Wilt was a man of strength, agility, speed and endurance. Had the smarts too.

asandhu23
08-20-2012, 03:12 AM
here's an 1987 article about him.

http://www.nytimes.com/1987/03/01/sports/the-night-chamberlain-scored-100.html?src=pm

JasonJohnHorn
08-20-2012, 06:38 AM
If Mikan played in this era he wouldnt even be considered in the Top 100....

I honestly believe that Mikan wouldn't even make a roster in today's NBA.

JasonJohnHorn
08-20-2012, 06:40 AM
Just out of curiosity Pettit, Bellamy, Billy Cunningham

Some interesting picks! I'd love to see Pettit as well and Cousy, just to see how the PG play of the 60's compares to the PG play of the current NBA.

I'd also like to see Jerry West... I've heard him say that he got a crazy amount of steals when he was playing, but they didn't keep track of steals until his final season, where at 35 years of age he posted 2.6 steals a game. Could you imagine what kind of numbers he would have been putting up in his prime if he was still getting 2.6 in the twilight of his career?

freedas
08-20-2012, 06:55 AM
I would like to see what type of numbers oscar robertson would put up.

freedas
08-20-2012, 07:09 AM
here's an 1987 article about him.

http://www.nytimes.com/1987/03/01/sports/the-night-chamberlain-scored-100.html?src=pm

nice article

Chavacano
08-20-2012, 07:35 AM
Wilt Norman Chamberlain and Jerry Alan West.

Heediot
08-20-2012, 08:30 AM
Wilt, we need more dominant big men that can impact the game.

asandhu23
08-20-2012, 09:38 AM
Wes Unseld.

Aust
08-20-2012, 10:18 AM
Hands down Wilt. His stats would plummet

LakersMaster24
08-21-2012, 12:05 AM
I honestly believe that Mikan wouldn't even make a roster in today's NBA.

I agree.

LAKERMANIA
08-21-2012, 01:44 AM
Wilt and Russell will be left off my list because I know that they would be superstars in today's era.

With that said, I would like to see the following players in today's era to see if they really were good, or they were just a product of their time/era

1. Jerry West
2. Elgin Baylor
3. Oscar Robertson

asandhu23
08-21-2012, 03:39 AM
I agree.

def. Mikan had serious health issues. Apparently he was nearly blind and had knees of an 80 year old.

Steelers23_06
08-21-2012, 03:59 AM
Wilt and Russell will be left off my list because I know that they would be superstars in today's era.

With that said, I would like to see the following players in today's era to see if they really were good, or they were just a product of their time/era

1. Jerry West
2. Elgin Baylor
3. Oscar Robertson

i dont know i have heard that he wasnt that great and other people say he was amazing. not too much on his play kind of like wilt you just go off of stories and fuzzy clips lol. so i have no strong opinion, i just wish there was more on him. on that note i change my mind from wilt to him. because if wilt was here now i think he has crazy 60-70 point games but i dont see a 100 point game in ball. and i think thats a cool. an unbreakable record in sports is hard to find nowadays.

Chronz
08-21-2012, 01:29 PM
Wilt and Russell will be left off my list because I know that they would be superstars in today's era.

With that said, I would like to see the following players in today's era to see if they really were good, or they were just a product of their time/era

1. Jerry West
2. Elgin Baylor
3. Oscar Robertson

They are both, they were that good and would remain good in our league, the difference people tend to ignore, comes in that there are more of those good players around now. As a result the impact that specific individual has on the game has diminished, simply because its not giving his team as great of an advantage vs other top teams. Its why we shouldnt value Bill Russell's 11 titles with Magic winning 4 in a more talented league.

Still the skill level and athletic gifts would provide the older guys what they need to compete. Then you get into the argument of how much healthier these guys would be playing today, I mean imagine how different Baylors career gos if his prime wasnt cut short by an injury that many back in the stone age believed was a career killer. Players now a days dont have to perform/travel under conditions as bad as theirs. So you have to give them the benefit of the doubt with regards to their health and talent.

Vincent33
08-21-2012, 01:48 PM
I'd go to an LSU game in the late 60s to watch Pete Maravich.

phlp_bj
08-21-2012, 01:52 PM
wilt on the bobcats :drool:

Bos_Sports4Life
08-21-2012, 03:19 PM
Russell..

I think he was athletic enough to where he'd translate into a defensive force playing PF. His offensive game would be beyond terrible and wouldn't be an mvp player, But still a leader/defensive master..

theheatles
08-21-2012, 03:24 PM
probably Oscar, cousy is funny because ppl rank him in top 3 PG of all time when in terms of skill level he isn't top 200 pgs of all time

JiffyMix88
08-21-2012, 03:38 PM
probably Oscar, cousy is funny because ppl rank him in top 3 PG of all time when in terms of skill level he isn't top 200 pgs of all time

so how was he ranked top 3 pg of all time if he didn't have the skill level to even be in the top 200... please do explain :eyebrow:

Chronz
08-21-2012, 08:39 PM
probably Oscar, cousy is funny because ppl rank him in top 3 PG of all time when in terms of skill level he isn't top 200 pgs of all time

WTF? We're talking about the same guy Ray Allen praised for his jumper? The same Oscar Robertson that proved capable of killing you in different aspects of the game?

THE MTL
08-21-2012, 08:58 PM
Bill russell would have had a ben wallace career with better offense.

Captain Moroni
08-21-2012, 09:08 PM
No brainer...wilt the stilt

ohreally
08-21-2012, 09:17 PM
Wilt and Oscar and West are obvious. Jerry Lucas.

SB1
08-21-2012, 09:47 PM
besides the obvious choices (Wilt, Oscar, West, & Russell)... Would love to see Connie Hawkins play in this era. Heard so many great stories about him from old heads that saw him play in NY before he was with the Globetrotters. Shame he never got a chance to play in the NBA in his prime.

Hangtime
08-21-2012, 10:45 PM
Jerry Lucas, check out his stats from the 60's. Would this guy even make the league today? He was absolutely dominating them clowns in those days. Just for laughs I would like to see him today.

JasonJohnHorn
08-21-2012, 10:53 PM
Russell..

I think he was athletic enough to where he'd translate into a defensive force playing PF. His offensive game would be beyond terrible and wouldn't be an mvp player, But still a leader/defensive master..

He had a great jumper and was a solid passer. Why do people think he was a bad offensive player? It's not that he couldn't score, it's that he was on a deep team and shared the ball.

JasonJohnHorn
08-21-2012, 10:54 PM
probably Oscar, cousy is funny because ppl rank him in top 3 PG of all time when in terms of skill level he isn't top 200 pgs of all time

No respect for the man who defined the position.

Hangtime
08-21-2012, 11:03 PM
Dave Bing, Willis Reed, Nate Thurmond, and Walt Frazier. Just a few other names instead of the uber obvious ones.

soundjunkies2
08-21-2012, 11:18 PM
Who's mad? I'm saying the truth, people nowadays call the Centers currently playing the game "Great" without seeing the Shaqs, Hakeems and Robinsons. I'd bet a prime Wilt Chamberlain in todays game is the best center in the game.

Of course he would be. Any top 5 player of all time in their prime is going to be the best at their position if they were playing now. Not exactly ground breaking.

Lloyd Christmas
08-21-2012, 11:21 PM
The logo.

Lloyd Christmas
08-21-2012, 11:34 PM
I just dont get the same enjoyment watching a big man superstar, like Shaq or Duncan, that I do watching a superstar guard like Kidd or Nash. Watching Wilt would be cool but I would prefer to see West play.

Bos_Sports4Life
08-22-2012, 11:16 AM
He had a great jumper and was a solid passer. Why do people think he was a bad offensive player? It's not that he couldn't score, it's that he was on a deep team and shared the ball.

this is false..

He was a great passer, great at understanding his role, but was NOT a good shooter. Look at '63 on..

from '63-'69 he had a total of 9.4 OWS's (1.34/yr). He shot .433 which wasn't even good for his time ect..

Russell was a great rebounder, made the greatest defensive impact in nba history (i'd argue sports history), very good passer, great shot blocker, great leadership ect.

KnicksorBust
08-22-2012, 12:18 PM
probably Oscar, cousy is funny because ppl rank him in top 3 PG of all time when in terms of skill level he isn't top 200 pgs of all time

Do you realize how many more assists he had than the other PGs over his era? Nobody created like he did. He was so far above his competition that his passing skills would easily translate. He was also a great FT shooter (80%) for his career. In the modern era, what would have stopped him from being a quality 3pt shooter and leading the league in assists?

Hellcrooner
08-22-2012, 12:26 PM
Nate thurmond

Chronz
08-22-2012, 02:52 PM
Russell..

I think he was athletic enough to where he'd translate into a defensive force playing PF. His offensive game would be beyond terrible and wouldn't be an mvp player, But still a leader/defensive master..

You dont think its likely that his defense suffers abit but his offense benefits from the rule changes.

Da Knicks
08-22-2012, 03:10 PM
would they have the same body work or do they get adjusted with all the stuff players take nowadays?

ManningToTyree
08-22-2012, 03:17 PM
Wilt to see if he would be as dominant.

Clyde Frazier for personal entertainment.

tonyd3b54
08-22-2012, 03:22 PM
who won all the titles? cousy, russel. id like to see if they could win now.

Gram
08-22-2012, 03:26 PM
Big O.