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oballerc75
08-18-2012, 02:22 AM
Oklahoma City Thunder forward Serge Ibaka has reached agreement on a four-year contract extension, league sources tell Y! Sports.
2 minutes ago

KB24PG16
08-18-2012, 02:23 AM
looks like harden could be gone

seikou8
08-18-2012, 02:24 AM
Iwonder for how much if its alot bye bye harden

b@llhog24
08-18-2012, 02:25 AM
Harden needs to go, No offense baller :D

KB24PG16
08-18-2012, 02:26 AM
harden to phoenix would be sick

PocketKings
08-18-2012, 02:26 AM
Whoa, very interesting.

douglas
08-18-2012, 02:28 AM
When a player shoots the basketball near the basketball hoop, Serge Ibaka is very good at blocking the shot that the other player shoots.

shep33
08-18-2012, 02:36 AM
Awesome news for OKC.

heyman321
08-18-2012, 02:40 AM
Harden come to the Raptors!!

Mr_Jones
08-18-2012, 02:43 AM
To me, Harden doesnt seem like he's THAT good. Feels like he gets all of his opportunities due to the attention going to Westbrook and Durant.

But I could be wrong. What do I know? I'll just go **** myself.

seikou8
08-18-2012, 02:44 AM
harden come to the raptors!!

you already have a star now you want two

elopez24MIAMI
08-18-2012, 02:46 AM
Great for Okc ibaka is a good young player has a lot of potential... Hopefully Okc can find a way to keep Harden, they have a great young team it would be great if the could keep it together... I'm a huge Miami fan but if Okc can keep it together and with the lakers new additions the next two or three seasons should be real fun!!!

shep33
08-18-2012, 02:47 AM
interested to see how much he's getting

Losoway
08-18-2012, 02:50 AM
harden will resign

they love playing with each other

tredigs
08-18-2012, 02:53 AM
Those who know not of the Thunder's situation think Harden and Ibaka both could not re-sign (also said KD and Westbrook wouldn't re-up), they're both wrong.

Such a fun team/great organization, dope to see Ibaka make it official. Beard's next.

kobe4thewinbang
08-18-2012, 02:56 AM
Why'd they resign a guy that is 98% defense and 2% offense?

PocketKings
08-18-2012, 03:00 AM
4 year 40 something million dollar contract.

Looks fair to me.

I think the Thunder did well with this deal actually.

Now let's see if Scotty Brooks will play Ibaka more.

Sadds The Gr8
08-18-2012, 03:02 AM
Harden should come to the Great White North

tredigs
08-18-2012, 03:06 AM
Why'd they resign a guy that is 98% defense and 2% offense?

Because he keeps doing this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1YQBElhL70

tredigs
08-18-2012, 03:08 AM
WOW @ 4 year 40 million by the way. That is the steal of the year.

tredigs
08-18-2012, 03:08 AM
Because he keeps doing this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1YQBElhL70

And this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmF0SJl_9xM

b@llhog24
08-18-2012, 03:12 AM
Good deal.

LakersMaster24
08-18-2012, 03:18 AM
Oh how cute, tredigs is searching youtube for clips where Ibaka is blocking Lakers players. :laugh2:

You are pathetic my friend.

LakersMaster24
08-18-2012, 03:19 AM
During the OKC vs Lakers game we should hold a count on who gets more blocks, Dwight or Ibaka? :D

DeRozan10
08-18-2012, 03:24 AM
anyone who thinks Harden isn't next is absolutely crazy.

Of course these guys are keeping this core together.

it would be absolutely foolish not too.

tredigs
08-18-2012, 03:27 AM
Oh how cute, tredigs is searching youtube for clips where Ibaka is blocking Lakers players. :laugh2:

You are pathetic my friend.

"Searching" might be a stretch. OKC recently laid waste to the Lakers, the clips are readily available. "Ibaka Kobe" is what I typed. First up? "Ibaka swats Kobe". Not the most epic of research papers.

Silly for Laker fans to troll OKC.



During the OKC vs Lakers game we should hold a count on who gets more blocks, Dwight or Ibaka? :D

You should. Ibaka at this age is a hilariously better shot blocker than prime-athletic Dwight (which has passed).

shep33
08-18-2012, 03:33 AM
I think Harden re-ups too

JoeDirt05
08-18-2012, 03:38 AM
Harden to Portland :)

LakersMaster24
08-18-2012, 03:38 AM
"Searching" might be a stretch. OKC recently laid waste to the Lakers, the clips are readily available. "Ibaka Kobe" is what I typed. First up? "Ibaka swats Kobe". Not the most epic of research papers.

Silly for Laker fans to troll OKC.




You should. Ibaka at this age is a hilariously better shot blocker than prime-athletic Dwight (which has passed).

So according to Dwight is out of his prime? Or what?

Also, you typed "Ibaka Kobe" thats the point. You wanted to see Kobe getting blocked.

That's cool man, I know you are still pissed off about the Lakers taking 10 steps forward.

tredigs
08-18-2012, 03:41 AM
So according to Dwight is out of his prime? Or what?

Also, you typed "Ibaka Kobe" thats the point. You wanted to see Kobe getting blocked.

That's cool man, I know you are still pissed off about the Lakers taking 10 steps forward.

I'm happy the Lakers are relevant again for Kobe's twilight run to be honest.

Yes, Dwight is out of his athletic prime. Turning 27 and just had back surgery. Any idiot knows what that means for a center.

And yes, prime Dwight does not sniff Ibaka's shot-blocking ability. This version? Let's just say name your stakes and set up a paypal. Easy money.

LakersMaster24
08-18-2012, 03:43 AM
I'm happy the Lakers are relevant again for Kobe's twilight run to be honest.

Yes, Dwight is out of his athletic prime. Turning 27 and just had back surgery. Any idiot knows what that means for a center.

And yes, prime Dwight does not sniff Ibaka's shot-blocking ability. This version? Let's just say name your stakes and set up a paypal. Easy money.

:laugh:

Sure Ibaka can be a better shotblocker, but that does not make him a better defensive player than Howard. Howard is going to be back, and be the best big man in the game. Book it.

shep33
08-18-2012, 03:44 AM
I think this is a steal. Ibaka definitely would've gotten more than 4 years 40 mill elsewhere.

tredigs
08-18-2012, 03:47 AM
During the OKC vs Lakers game we should hold a count on who gets more blocks, Dwight or Ibaka? :D


:laugh:

Sure Ibaka can be a better shotblocker, but that does not make him a better defensive player than Howard. Howard is going to be back, and be the best big man in the game. Book it.



Is back-peddling an Olympic event? Shoe in!

They're going to need every inch of a fully healthy D. Howard to stay competitive OR beat OKC, I truly hope we get to see that series.

LakersMaster24
08-18-2012, 03:50 AM
Is back-peddling an Olympic event? Shoe in!

They're going to need every inch of a fully healthy D. Howard to stay competitive OR beat OKC, I truly hope we get to see that series.

When did I say that Dwight is a better shotblocker in any of my previous posts? :facepalm:

I just said it would be fun to watch them during the game and see who blocks more shots.

KB24PG16
08-18-2012, 03:50 AM
im not so sure harden would want to reup i have a feeling he wants to be a 'superstar' not a 3rd option

jayjay33
08-18-2012, 03:54 AM
I would amnestiy perk before I let harden walk. we saw what happened to the thunder when harden didn't show up in the finals. They are not the same team without him.

elopez24MIAMI
08-18-2012, 03:57 AM
im not so sure harden would want to reup i have a feeling he wants to be a 'superstar' not a 3rd option

Harden russell and Durant seem to be very close... I think there gonna wanna keep this rn going at least thru one more contract.

Ebbs
08-18-2012, 04:26 AM
When a player shoots the basketball near the basketball hoop, Serge Ibaka is very good at blocking the shot that the other player shoots.

:laugh:


Those who know not of the Thunder's situation think Harden and Ibaka both could not re-sign (also said KD and Westbrook wouldn't re-up), they're both wrong.

Such a fun team/great organization, dope to see Ibaka make it official. Beard's next.

Disagree Harden will not resign

JOhnnyTHaJet
08-18-2012, 04:38 AM
Great deal for OKC.

Also, won't OKC have Hardens Bird Rights? They'll be able to fit is contract under the hard cap.

raiderposting
08-18-2012, 04:53 AM
Great deal for OKC.

Also, won't OKC have Hardens Bird Rights? They'll be able to fit is contract under the hard cap.

okc will not be able to maintain going over the luxury tax like the lakers and knicks can.

SugeKnight
08-18-2012, 04:58 AM
When a player shoots the basketball near the basketball hoop, Serge Ibaka is very good at blocking the shot that the other player shoots.

Great analysis! Ever consider doing play-by-play?

Kevj77
08-18-2012, 05:18 AM
Those who know not of the Thunder's situation think Harden and Ibaka both could not re-sign (also said KD and Westbrook wouldn't re-up), they're both wrong.

Such a fun team/great organization, dope to see Ibaka make it official. Beard's next.

It all depends on the contracts they sign. Durant and Westbrook are getting max contracts. If Ibaka and Harden get anything close the Thunder could be in the progressive luxury tax and be repeat offenders under the new CBA.

The salary cap and luxury tax will also soon reflect the new BRI split, which means they will likely be going down unless total BRI goes up significantly. That will be tough for any team not named the Knicks or Lakers to afford.

This is the reality of the new CBA. It doesn't mean their owner isn't willing to pay it just mean it will cost a lot of money to have 3-4 near max and a 12-13 man roster.

Alayla
08-18-2012, 05:21 AM
Why'd they resign a guy that is 98% defense and 2% offense?

becuase theres more then 1 side to basketball

_KB24_
08-18-2012, 05:52 AM
All I can say is wow.....what a ****ing bargain

Faneik
08-18-2012, 06:23 AM
Why'd they resign a guy that is 98% defense and 2% offense?

defense is 50% of the game.

with durant, westbrook and harden on that team, basketball logic tells you to surround them with good rebounders, shot blockers so they can have a balanced team.

MackSnackWrap
08-18-2012, 06:23 AM
you already have a star now you want two

And who exactly would that be?

torontosports10
08-18-2012, 07:41 AM
It's not 40 million, its 4 years/48mllion.

So 12 mill a season, which IMO is a little high for him, but they had to keep him.

Be interesting to see what happens with Harden now. They should either sign him before the trade deadline or trade him by it, cause we know someone will offer him the max in FA

Swashcuff
08-18-2012, 07:46 AM
4 years 40 Mil for Ibaka compared to what bigs are making today is a good deal if you ask me. I bet he wins a DPOY before that contract expires, hell he can possibly win one before the contract even starts.

This doesn't mean that Harden is gone either. Harden has said it that he wants to stay and turn OKC into a dynasty. That doesn't mean that he's ready to deal or else he would have already but his intentions are clear and personally I'd lean towards the Thunder retaining Harden than he walking out on them.

Swashcuff
08-18-2012, 07:50 AM
It's not 40 million, its 4 years/48mllion.

So 12 mill a season, which IMO is a little high for him, but they had to keep him.

Be interesting to see what happens with Harden now. They should either sign him before the trade deadline or trade him by it, cause we know someone will offer him the max in FA

Where did you hear 48?

OKC
08-18-2012, 08:28 AM
Adrian Wojnarowski‏@WojYahooNBA

Serge Ibaka deal is 4 years, $48 million, league source tells Y! Sports.

still a decent deal, i just hope we can get harden too.

SteBO
08-18-2012, 08:29 AM
^Damn, congrats Serge Ibaka. His journey to the NBA was definitely a rough one, and all his hard work paid off big time. :clap: I hope they can keep Harden too.

Lakers + Giants
08-18-2012, 08:45 AM
4/48 not a great contract but not horrible.
Slightly over paid imo.

lamzoka
08-18-2012, 08:52 AM
I believe okc will keep harden too. The lux tax will kill the owner but that city love their okc thunder. The owner will do anything to keep this core. They very young and very talented

yaswaggin
08-18-2012, 08:52 AM
if they amnesty perkins they'll have room to offer harden max.

get it done!

Kobe2324
08-18-2012, 08:59 AM
I guess we will soon find out if okc is willing to go into the luxury tax area, on the bright side they go their the right way from the ground up but eventually with success comes spending, no point. Holding this team to this point and letting players walk, I expect harden to be next to sign an extension.

GoPacers33
08-18-2012, 09:00 AM
I think this means Harden is out the door next summer

king4day
08-18-2012, 09:02 AM
The only way Harden re-signs now is if he's offered a max extension or if he's willing to take a pay cut.

He knows Phoenix will offer him a max deal (amongst other teams). Should be very interesting to see how this all plays out.

xnick5757
08-18-2012, 09:03 AM
Breakdown of OKC's future salary position:


current committed salaries for 2013-2014:

durant: $17,832,627
westbrook: $13,891,359
ibaka: $12,000,000
perkins: $8,477,437
sefolosha: $3,900,000
collison: $2,585,668
jones: $1,082,520
thabeet: $500k (dead money if cut)


That is a total of $60,269,611 committed to 7 players (assuming thabeet gets cut). Amnesting perkins (which they will do) frees up $8,477,437, bringing the total salary committed to $51,792,174.

the most money harden could get in his deal is about $13,668,750 (2013 #, might increase a little depending on salary cap fluctuation)

So, if harden got a max deal OKC total salary would be: $65,460,924 committed to 7 players.

They would need 5 more players to fill out their roster, so they could sign 5 veterans to minimum deals (cap hit of $884,293 each because the NBA reimburses teams for signing vets to 1 year deals).

signing 5 vets to 1 year deals brings their total to $69,882,389, leaving no room for them to sign their 1st round picks if they didn't want to go over the cap. They could however not sign a vet or two and fill out their roster with picks.

This is all based on Harden getting a max deal too, if he takes a small hometown discount like Ibaka did OKC is in even better shape.

OKC had an operating income of $25 million last year - they can afford this.


TLDR: OKC can sign Harden to a max deal without going over the luxury tax

LJEATON26
08-18-2012, 09:10 AM
Congrats to Ibaka on the new deal. He is 22 and already one of the best defensive players in the league, so he is most definitely worth it. Presti still has a lot of work today though resigning the beard. I think the owners decide to drop into the luxary tax though.

xnick5757
08-18-2012, 09:11 AM
Congrats to Ibaka on the new deal. He is 22 and already one of the best defensive players in the league, so he is most definitely worth it. Presti still has a lot of work today though resigning the beard. I think the owners decide to drop into the luxary tax though.


see above, they don't have to :D

justinnum1
08-18-2012, 09:21 AM
Decent deal. I think harden will get the same deal

LJEATON26
08-18-2012, 09:31 AM
see above, they don't have to :D

Yeah they will, cause i don't see them amnestying Perkins.

xnick5757
08-18-2012, 09:39 AM
Yeah they will, cause i don't see them amnestying Perkins.


lol perkins is trash.


his playoff stats from last year:

8.0 PER |.470 TS%|.416 eFG%|14.4 TRB%

92 ORtg|107 DRtg

-0.1 OWS|0.3 DWS|0.1 WS

.014 WS/48 (league average is .100)


8.4 million for that production - or amnesty him and sign harden without hitting the lux, its a no brainer. perkins is terrible

thephoenixson28
08-18-2012, 09:50 AM
Or they can sign and trade him. Perkins and Harden for Gortat and Dudley

h2r09
08-18-2012, 09:59 AM
way to much money for him. should have given harden this deal. Ibaka is not worth this much unless he drastically improves his offensive game.

LJEATON26
08-18-2012, 10:00 AM
lol perkins is trash.


his playoff stats from last year:

8.0 PER |.470 TS%|.416 eFG%|14.4 TRB%

92 ORtg|107 DRtg

-0.1 OWS|0.3 DWS|0.1 WS

.014 WS/48 (league average is .100)


8.4 million for that production - or amnesty him and sign harden without hitting the lux, its a no brainer. perkins is terrible

He's the team captain with KD and one of the few players that can come close to containing dwight or bynum 1 on 1 and with his contract he is making the same amount that Omer Asik signed for. Plus the Thunder don't have a center to replace his ***, unless you think they would be better off with Cole Aldriche, Hasheem Thabeet or Daniel Orton?

B'sCeltsPatsSox
08-18-2012, 10:20 AM
OKC can/will sign Harden. They'll probably have to amnesty Perkins but they would do that.

LoveMeOrHateMe
08-18-2012, 10:25 AM
I'm happy the Lakers are relevant again for Kobe's twilight run to be honest.

Yes, Dwight is out of his athletic prime. Turning 27 and just had back surgery. Any idiot knows what that means for a center.

And yes, prime Dwight does not sniff Ibaka's shot-blocking ability. This version? Let's just say name your stakes and set up a paypal. Easy money.


:facepalm: so does that means lebrons athletic prime is gone? Damn people Dwight had back surgery lots of players come back the same way after back surgery it's not like he blew out his knees or something smh

SteBO
08-18-2012, 10:30 AM
I'm happy the Lakers are relevant again for Kobe's twilight run to be honest.

Yes, Dwight is out of his athletic prime. Turning 27 and just had back surgery. Any idiot knows what that means for a center.

And yes, prime Dwight does not sniff Ibaka's shot-blocking ability. This version? Let's just say name your stakes and set up a paypal. Easy money.


:facepalm: so does that means lebrons athletic prime is gone? Damn people Dwight had back surgery lots of players come back the same way after back surgery it's not like he blew out his knees or something smh
Dwight is a big man. The impact it wil have on him in the future is different. But in saying that, I don't think he'll be affected too much now because of his age. He's still young.

Carey
08-18-2012, 10:51 AM
They'll resign Harden for a similar # and either amnesty Perk or eat the luxury tax penalty for two years. I think alot will depend on how Perk bounces back health wise, the development of Cole Aldrich and the development of Tibor Pleiss overseas. Perk is a much better fit to defend Bynum well then he is to defend D12 well so i dont know how much the Lakers having D12 will factor into the decision.

Heediot
08-18-2012, 10:56 AM
4 year at 40 million is a steal. Unless he doesn't show improvement, he would've been offered at-least 12 million per in restricted free agency if he waited.

Maybe he gave OKC a home-town discount.

mdm692
08-18-2012, 10:56 AM
The beard is phoenix bound!!!!

Handsof12
08-18-2012, 11:01 AM
To me, Harden doesnt seem like he's THAT good. Feels like he gets all of his opportunities due to the attention going to Westbrook and Durant.

But I could be wrong. What do I know? I'll just go **** myself.

I kind of feel the same way . That's not to say his game can't improve given more offensive responsibility. I think Phoenix would give him the most money, especially after losing out on Gordon. Kendall Marshall and Dragic will be a huge plus if he goes. Actually like Marshall more in that tandem b/c Harden can shoulder more of the scoring load

absolute zero
08-18-2012, 11:08 AM
With that move, they could amnesty Perkins to extend Harden, then move Ibaka to the center position and play Collison/PJ III as PF.

Sixerlover
08-18-2012, 11:14 AM
Give OKC Turner and Thad for Harden, so at least they get some production for him :D

But if I was in OKC's situation I would've probably signed Ibaka first too. It's easier to find a perimeter scorer with mediocre defense then an interior defender who is mediocre offensively.

seikou8
08-18-2012, 11:21 AM
He's the team captain with KD and one of the few players that can come close to containing dwight or bynum 1 on 1 and with his contract he is making the same amount that Omer Asik signed for. Plus the Thunder don't have a center to replace his ***, unless you think they would be better off with Cole Aldriche, Hasheem Thabeet or Daniel Orton?

i he doesn't do anything other than dunk or defends trey find a guy willing to do that cheap

BobbyHillSwag
08-18-2012, 11:23 AM
way too much for him. Im glad people think 10 mil is decent for a player like him. Just because everyone else overpays their players doesnt mean that should be the criteria

Romo2Bryant
08-18-2012, 11:26 AM
way too much for him. Im glad people think 10 mil is decent for a player like him. Just because everyone else overpays their players doesnt mean that should be the criteria

It was $12 million, not $10 million.

BobbyHillSwag
08-18-2012, 11:27 AM
^damn well that's even worse lmao

Romo2Bryant
08-18-2012, 11:29 AM
^damn well that's even worse lmao

Yeah, it was $48mil/4 years. Too much money...

http://rotoworld.com/player/nba/1521/serge-ibaka

Cal827
08-18-2012, 11:32 AM
I guess this deal is based on potential cause this is a bad deal based on his current talent. I mean, I know he can block a lot of shots, but he seriously needs to improve his offense, and needs to be a better post defender.

xnick5757
08-18-2012, 11:34 AM
way too much for him. Im glad people think 10 mil is decent for a player like him. Just because everyone else overpays their players doesnt mean that should be the criteria


Yeah, it was $48mil/4 years. Too much money...



Ibaka blocked 3.7 shots per game last season, far ahead of second-place JaVale McGee (2.2) and third-place Dwight Howard (2.1). On the strength of all those swats, he wound up being the No. 11 overall fantasy player last season (per-game value, nine categories) despite playing just 27.1 minutes per game.

how is 12 million too much for that? the dudes a beast!


his per 36 minutes stats (what he would have gotten if he got starters minutes):

12.1 PPG | 10.0 RPG | 4.8 BPG


a double-double + almost 5 blocks a game is definitely worth 12 million in today's NBA.



and he is only 22 years old, not even in his prime yet!

Carey
08-18-2012, 11:36 AM
way too much for him. Im glad people think 10 mil is decent for a player like him. Just because everyone else overpays their players doesnt mean that should be the criteria

He's 22 years old, certaintly not a finished product but at his age he's a productive starter for a championship contender and still has considerable upside. As far as the price the market value is what it is, especially for a big. If you never wanna pay market value and always looking for a bargain your gonna have a pretty crap team.

D1JM
08-18-2012, 11:39 AM
So because he is a good shot blocker and 11th rank fantasy player he is worth 12 million a year?

tredigs
08-18-2012, 11:40 AM
how is 12 million too much for that? the dudes a beast!


his per 36 minutes stats (what he would have gotten if he got starters minutes):

12.1 PPG | 10.0 RPG | 4.8 BPG


a double-double + almost 5 blocks a game is definitely worth 12 million in today's NBA.

To add to this, consistently improving PER and WS/48 that are now at 19 and .167. D-rating's at 98; holds opponents production to a PER of 12. And a block% that prime Mutombo or Dwight could only dream of.

Those are damn good all around numbers for a consistently improving talent who is still just 22 years old. If you were a GM and passed on 4 years of age 23-27 Ibaka for 48 million, I can guarantee you would have your bags packed for you by that night. Doesn't hurt that like the rest of OKC, he doesn't miss games.

BobbyHillSwag
08-18-2012, 11:40 AM
He's 22 years old, certaintly not a finished product but at his age he's a productive starter for a championship contender and still has considerable upside. As far as the price the market value is what it is, especially for a big. If you never wanna pay market value and always looking for a bargain your gonna have a pretty crap team.

ok I can understand the age thing, But it's not like Ibaka is a real important piece, he can be replaced very easily(he also makes tons of stupid mistakes).

BobbyHillSwag
08-18-2012, 11:41 AM
To add to this, consistently improving PER and WS/48 that are now at 19 and .167. D-rating's at 98; holds opponents production to a PER of 12.

Those are damn good all around numbers for a consistently improving talent who is still just 22 years old. If you were a GM and passed on 4 years of age 23-27 Ibaka for 48 million, I can guarantee you would have your bags packed for you by that night.

Well they'd just have to pack my bags, cause I wouldnt pay that fool that much.

xnick5757
08-18-2012, 11:44 AM
So because he is a good shot blocker and 11th rank fantasy player he is worth 12 million a year?

no, hes worth 12 million a year because of:


12.1 PPG | 10.0 RPG | 4.8 BPG

19.0 PER | .556 TS% | .536 eFG%

13.2 ORB% | 18.2 DRB% | 9.8 BLK%

113 ORtg | 98 DRtg

6.2 WS | .167 WS/48



he blocks almost 10% of the opposing teams player's shots when he is on the floor. that's just insane

tredigs
08-18-2012, 11:47 AM
ok I can understand the age thing, But it's not like Ibaka is a real important piece, he can be replaced very easily(he also makes tons of stupid mistakes).

His turnover rate is very low and he's always working to improve. The mistakes he makes (and he still makes some on both ends) aren't due to stupidity or cockiness (Josh Smith shooting 3's or something), he's just still growing.

But no, nobody in the NBA can replace what Ibaka gives you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-PwEFnPLNQ

^Triple double with blocks. Nearly all saving clear buckets.

RipCity32
08-18-2012, 11:53 AM
ok I can understand the age thing, But it's not like Ibaka is a real important piece, he can be replaced very easily(he also makes tons of stupid mistakes).

Productive bigs are the hardest thing to replace.His defense is a very important peice and you cant just go find another one overnight.Ibaka kinda reminds me of a poor mans Ben Wallace,No offense just Defense but his defense was good enough to change games and he was the backbone of the Pistons.

keetyweedy
08-18-2012, 11:57 AM
He deserves it, especially if javelle mcgee got 4yr/$44 mil...not saying mcgee is bad its just he really hasnt proven himself for that kind of money, Ibaka on the other hand has, good move OKC

D-Leethal
08-18-2012, 12:13 PM
If it came down to Harden vs Ibaka, I would have chosen Harden. Going to be interesting to see where they go from here. I would personally try to shed Perkins and resign Harden to something like 4 yrs 56mil.

LTBaByyy
08-18-2012, 12:22 PM
Laughing at the people thinking OKC will also sign Harden

Durant- 20 mil
Westbrook- 20 mil
Ibaka- 12 mil

That's 52 million for just 3 players, this is not LA or NY

OKC can't afford offering Harden a big contract

It will likely be a sign and trade at the end of the season

xnick5757
08-18-2012, 12:24 PM
Laughing at the people thinking OKC will also sign Harden

Durant- 20 mil
Westbrook- 20 mil
Ibaka- 12 mil

That's 52 million for just 3 players, this is not LA or NY

OKC can't afford offering Harden a big contract

It will likely be a sign and trade at the end of the season

okc was +25 million last year in operating income

LTBaByyy
08-18-2012, 12:25 PM
Some of y'all are underrating Perkins

Without Perkins they don't beat Lakers or Spurs (Bynum/Gasol and Duncan)

Especially now with Howard, do y'all really think Cole Aldridge will be able to contain the elite big men?

Dade County
08-18-2012, 12:35 PM
OKC = Superteam

But it seems as though no one cares on this site because OKC drafted their players (smh)

Harden needs to go somewhere and make that money... Can you imagine if this team stayed together for 7yrs, they would be in the WCF/Finals every year. I see them as the HEAT biggest threat.

Lakers are good too, but OKC will handle them in the playoffs.

and yes I know Miami is a Superteam too.

Carey
08-18-2012, 12:45 PM
Laughing at the people thinking OKC will also sign Harden

Durant- 20 mil
Westbrook- 20 mil
Ibaka- 12 mil

That's 52 million for just 3 players, this is not LA or NY

OKC can't afford offering Harden a big contract

It will likely be a sign and trade at the end of the season

Hope to see you in the "Harden re-signs with the Thunder" thread....lol

LJEATON26
08-18-2012, 12:51 PM
Productive bigs are the hardest thing to replace.His defense is a very important peice and you cant just go find another one overnight.Ibaka kinda reminds me of a poor mans Ben Wallace,No offense just Defense but his defense was good enough to change games and he was the backbone of the Pistons.

He is definately not a poor mans Ben Wallace. Ibakas offense is coming around pretty nicely. He was 8th in fg% this last season and his 15-18ft jumper is getting pretty damn automatic. He's only 22 and keeps getting better every year and I think by the end of this contract he will have made an all star team.

LTBaByyy
08-18-2012, 12:56 PM
Perkins is a bigger piece of OKC than people think

They would not have got through Lakers or Spurs without him

He did the same exact thing in Boston but people praised him then and bash him now

Cole Aldridge won't have the same impact that he has if OKC amnesty him

He is a 1 on 1 defender against every center in the league including the elite ones

SirDJ
08-18-2012, 12:56 PM
To me, Harden doesnt seem like he's THAT good. Feels like he gets all of his opportunities due to the attention going to Westbrook and Durant.

But I could be wrong. What do I know? I'll just go **** myself.

hahahahahhaha one of the funniest things ivve read on psd

Se7en_Sins
08-18-2012, 01:00 PM
Great deal for the Thunder. Ibaka could have easily walked and got more elsewhere.

I do believe Harden will resign. They all seem very close, and with them getting to the finals, I think they know they've got something special.

smith&wesson
08-18-2012, 01:06 PM
good decision for the thunder. they have elite scorers in durant and westbrook they really need that inside presence... ibaka is more vital to the success of the thunder then harden is.

Ill21
08-18-2012, 01:10 PM
Harden is a gone

KB-Pau-DH2012
08-18-2012, 01:39 PM
He did it for the llullz.

Punk
08-18-2012, 01:42 PM
Laughing at the people thinking OKC will also sign Harden

Durant- 20 mil
Westbrook- 20 mil
Ibaka- 12 mil

That's 52 million for just 3 players, this is not LA or NY

OKC can't afford offering Harden a big contract

It will likely be a sign and trade at the end of the season

They will re-sign Harden. OKC solidified themselves as a championship team and there will be TV deals and endorsements lined up for that organization to pay those contracts.

TheNumber37
08-18-2012, 01:49 PM
Harden for Tyrke

koreancabbage
08-18-2012, 01:52 PM
does HArden accept the $10M per or will want more?

Corey
08-18-2012, 02:00 PM
Ibaka could have gotten more through restricted free agency on the market. Good deal for OKC.

Lets see what they can work out with Harden now.

b@llhog24
08-18-2012, 02:03 PM
Harden to Portland :)

:pray:


It's not 40 million, its 4 years/48mllion.

So 12 mill a season, which IMO is a little high for him, but they had to keep him.

Be interesting to see what happens with Harden now. They should either sign him before the trade deadline or trade him by it, cause we know someone will offer him the max in FA

Slight overpay then, but that's the norm for bigs in the Nba anyway.


:facepalm: so does that means lebrons athletic prime is gone? Damn people Dwight had back surgery lots of players come back the same way after back surgery it's not like he blew out his knees or something smh

Slowly but surely, he's not as explosive/fast as he was in Cleveland, btw Dwight is a great athlete in his own right but Lebron is a once and a lifetime type beast.


Give OKC Turner and Thad for Harden, so at least they get some production for him :D

But if I was in OKC's situation I would've probably signed Ibaka first too. It's easier to find a perimeter scorer with mediocre defense then an interior defender who is mediocre offensively.

True but not many perimeter players can score as efficiently as Harden.

NoahH
08-18-2012, 06:41 PM
Ibaka > Mcgee

Vinny642
08-18-2012, 06:46 PM
Resign Harden and then they're straight

Baller1
08-18-2012, 09:52 PM
Harden will be extended this season, and then we've got ourselves a legitimate dynasty.

Durant, Westy, Harden, and Ibaka are all under the age of 23. That's just un-****ing-fair. When they're all in their primes together... Damn.

shep33
08-18-2012, 10:00 PM
Yeah if they re-up Harden, you can book 2-3 titles for the Thunder in the next little while

KaganRS
08-18-2012, 10:02 PM
When a player shoots the basketball near the basketball hoop, Serge Ibaka is very good at blocking the shot that the other player shoots.

Hubie Brown ? is that you !?!

KaganRS
08-18-2012, 10:07 PM
OKC won't pay luxury tax for Harden .... alot hinges on what they do this year with their core players.

James Harden can become the man and the star of some other team and make more money elsewhere, but he'll never play for a team like OKC again if he chooses that path.

Touch decisions.

Baller1
08-18-2012, 10:38 PM
Yeah if they re-up Harden, you can book 2-3 titles for the Thunder in the next little while

Not with teams like Miami and LA forming the rosters that they have. One title isn't even guaranteed at this point.

Aust
08-18-2012, 10:53 PM
So 10/12m per year. How much cap room they got left for Harden?

Mr. Baller
08-18-2012, 11:00 PM
OKC-LAL WCF for the next few years shall be fun. Love OKC, easily my 2nd favorite team (yes i will jump on the band wagon)

Baller1
08-18-2012, 11:43 PM
OKC-LAL WCF for the next few years shall be fun. Love OKC, easily my 2nd favorite team (yes i will jump on the band wagon)

I'm the exact opposite. Miami is easily my second favorite team, especially with the addition of my man Ray Ray.

Vinylman
08-18-2012, 11:43 PM
Laughing at the people thinking OKC will also sign Harden

Durant- 20 mil
Westbrook- 20 mil
Ibaka- 12 mil

That's 52 million for just 3 players, this is not LA or NY

OKC can't afford offering Harden a big contract

It will likely be a sign and trade at the end of the season

Another ignorant PSDer

in what universe will Westbrook make $20 million per year... the first year of his new deal is a shade under $13 million

Keep trying to keep your Mavericks relevant...

dtmagnet
08-18-2012, 11:43 PM
When a player shoots the basketball near the basketball hoop, Serge Ibaka is very good at blocking the shot that the other player shoots.

Post of the year.

Vinylman
08-18-2012, 11:48 PM
Ibaka could have gotten more through restricted free agency on the market. Good deal for OKC.

Lets see what they can work out with Harden now.


really?

he could get more than $48 million?


Isn't that about max for his type of player?

Not to mention he has $48 million guaranteed RIGHT NOW if he gets hurt...

thekmp211
08-19-2012, 12:46 AM
fantastic deal for OKC. wowzers.

ChitownBears22
08-19-2012, 01:25 AM
Great deal by OKC. That is Westbrook/Durant/Ibaka locked in for the next 4 years. Not sure if Harden will be possible but I don't think that is that big of a deal. There will be plenty of veteran talent that can be brought in to play a bench role.

--23--
08-19-2012, 02:34 AM
I wonder what happens with Harden

8kobe24
08-19-2012, 02:42 AM
Looks like okc is gonna have to go over the cap to re up harden. That would be an interesting decision for okc.

Kevj77
08-19-2012, 03:20 AM
Looks like okc is gonna have to go over the cap to re up harden. That would be an interesting decision for okc.

Over the cap more like pay the tax. Then sign some vet min players.

Durant 18.7
Westbrook 14.5
Ibaka 12 mil
Harden 13 mil (unless they sign him for less before he hits free agency someone will offer him the max)
Perk 8.4
Sefolosha 3.9
Collinson 2.5

http://hoopshype.com/salaries/oklahoma_city.htm

About 73 mil for 7 players (after this season they still have Harden and Ibaka on rookie contracts) . Keep in mind that Durant, Westbrook, Harden will get raises yearly. They can amesty Perk or trade him. Let their bench players walk if they want for a bunch of vet min players, but they are going to pay Lakers type salary if they want to keep this core together for years.

shep33
08-19-2012, 04:07 AM
It'll be an expensive team that's for sure. Hope they can keep it together though.

In 2013-2014, if Harden re-ups for 13 mill per year say, they'd have a salary of close to 80 mill.

KD-18 mill
Russy-15 mill
Ibaka-12.5 mill (according to Hoopshype)
Perk-9 mill
Harden 13-14 mill
Thabo 4 mill
Collison 2.6 mill
Perry Jones 1 mill

Those 8 guys alone comes to 75-76 mill. It's going to cost a lot in the future though, but imo it's worth it. Haha that being said, remember that the NBA is introducing the super tax pretty soon and OKC will be well over the threshold.

Just an estimate for 2015.

KD- 20 mill
Russy-17 mill
Ibaka 12.5 mill
Harden (assuming that he gets the same deal as Gordon) 15-15.5 mill

Those 4 players will take up around 65 mill alone. Again the Super Tax is going to be extremely punitive, I think it's like $1.75 for every $1.00 over the cap. Then I think it gets worse for repeat offenders doesn't it?

Again, this is all up to the owners for OKC though (Clay Bennett). He can keep them together, but the NBA is going to crack down on superstar teams. Not saying that it's going to stop them from occurring, but we have to wonder if smaller market owners will be willing to spend at such a high clip.

Chavacano
08-19-2012, 01:19 PM
Harden will be extended this season, and then we've got ourselves a legitimate dynasty.

Durant, Westy, Harden, and Ibaka are all under the age of 23. That's just un-****ing-fair. When they're all in their primes together... Damn.


Not with teams like Miami and LA forming the rosters that they have. One title isn't even guaranteed at this point.

^^ :laugh:

sunsfan88
08-22-2012, 12:40 AM
Harden had said earlier that he will come home to Phoenix if OKC doesn't work out....hopefully he stays true to his word :D

jam
08-22-2012, 03:00 AM
Great signing. A young big who blocks 4 shots a game? He can write his own damn check. Dude re-upped for peanuts.

The nice thing is, his offensive game looked really nice in the playoffs (at least prior to meeting up with the darlings of the nba refs, the miami cheat.

Mr. Beer
08-22-2012, 03:44 AM
Love to see Harden in Chicago!