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PocketKings
08-09-2012, 12:47 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA

Orlando and the L.A. Lakers are engaged in 4-way talks with Denver and Philadelphia on a Dwight Howard blockbuster, league sources tell Y!

AND ITS WOJO! :speechless:

LoveMeOrHateMe
08-09-2012, 12:48 PM
@WojYahooNBA: Orlando and the L.A. Lakers are engaged in 4-way talks with Denver and Philadelphia on a Dwight Howard blockbuster, league sources tell Y!

Let's hope this time something really does happen!!

Ryan328
08-09-2012, 12:48 PM
We were due for more Dwight news soon. It had slowed down a lot

mamba24
08-09-2012, 12:49 PM
Orlando and the L.A. Lakers are engaged in 4-way talks with Denver and Philadelphia on a Dwight Howard blockbuster, league sources tell Y!

-Woj

Just tweeted it. Here we go again.

http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm

PocketKings
08-09-2012, 12:49 PM
The fact it is Wojo makes me believe the end might be near. Wojo doesn't mess with that BS.

D12 fan
08-09-2012, 12:49 PM
Please Orlando trade him already.

D12 fan
08-09-2012, 12:50 PM
The fact it is Wojo makes me believe the end might be near. Wojo doesn't mess with that BS.

Agreed,it has been quiet lately so lets hope a deal gets done.

As long as Broussard/Bucher dont report it.

PocketKings
08-09-2012, 12:52 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA

The four teams have been engaged in discussions for several days, league sources tell Y! No deal imminent, but talks have substance.

This as well though as a disclaimer.

PocketKings
08-09-2012, 12:52 PM
Agreed,it has been quiet lately so lets hope a deal gets done.

As long as Broussard/Bucher dont report it.

Yeup.

Iron24th
08-09-2012, 12:54 PM
4 team trade will be complicated, this mess could be long

C-Wick925
08-09-2012, 12:55 PM
YES! Ima make a 3rd thread!

GoPacers33
08-09-2012, 12:55 PM
It's about to go down

PocketKings
08-09-2012, 12:56 PM
4 team trade will be complicated, this mess could be long

Yeup. That is probably the most worrisome factor.

Sadds The Gr8
08-09-2012, 12:57 PM
i'd rather die than hear another ****in Dwight rumour

C-Wick925
08-09-2012, 12:57 PM
Doubt it happens with 4 teams... Too difficult for all teams to feel that they are getting a fair deal

LakersIn5
08-09-2012, 12:57 PM
yes! yes! yes! finally rumors! better than nothing! i guess bynum goes to philly?

TheIlladelph16
08-09-2012, 12:58 PM
Really curious to see who Philly might receive/give up in this deal.... Orlando seriously just needs to trade him already.

phlp_bj
08-09-2012, 12:59 PM
predictions on the framework?

Rivera
08-09-2012, 12:59 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA
Story with working framework of possible Dwight Howard deal will be posted soon on Y! Sports.

cant wait to see it just because though im sick of this crap already

Rivera
08-09-2012, 01:00 PM
magic get mcgee cause thats something the magic FO would probably ask for instead of bynum :laugh:

phlp_bj
08-09-2012, 01:01 PM
Bynum to Philly? Maybe Wilson Chandler/Turner to Orlando? Or it's a bigger blockbuster with Iggy moving too

LTBaByyy
08-09-2012, 01:02 PM
Bynum would be going to Philly most likely

He will be in a Mavericks uniform next season :dance:

His list is Mavs, Rockets, or Cavs

waveycrockett
08-09-2012, 01:03 PM
DEN wont help LA get Dwight unless they have Iggy and Bynum coming their way.

PocketKings
08-09-2012, 01:03 PM
Bynum to Philly? Maybe Wilson Chandler/Turner to Orlando? Or it's a bigger blockbuster with Iggy moving too

I don't know but with the 4 teams involved all I can imagine is excitement! :speechless:

I just wonder how the salaries are going to work as well.

THIS IS SO EXCITING!!!!! (not really, but kind of.)

PocketKings
08-09-2012, 01:03 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--lakers--magic-in-blockbuster-four-team-trade-talks-to-send-dwight-howard-to-l-a-.html

LTBaByyy
08-09-2012, 01:03 PM
What if Lakers pulled a miracle and ended up with:

Nash
Kobe
Iggy
Pau
Howard



Lol

DaddyCool
08-09-2012, 01:04 PM
yes! Yes! Yes! Finally rumors! Better than nothing! I guess bynum goes to philly?

yes yes yes. Jizz jizz jizz omg.

*Superman*
08-09-2012, 01:04 PM
There are multiple moving parts in the fluid talks, but the framework of a possible deal includes Howard and Denver forward Al Harrington going to the Lakers, Philadelphia guard Andre Iguodala going to the Nuggets, Los Angeles center Andrew Bynum moving to the 76ers, and Los Angeles forward Pau Gasol and Denver guard Arron Affalo going to the Magic, sources told Yahoo! Sports.

http://sports.yahoo.com/author/adrian-wojnarowski/;_ylt=Aqo6F4Teb0rSipgzGeDPH5S8vLYF;_ylu=X3oDMTIycm 5pMjI2BG1pdANMSVNUUyBNaXhlZCBMaXN0IE5CQSBFeHBlcnRz BHBvcwMxBHNlYwNNZWRpYUJMaXN0TWl4ZWRMUENBVGVtcA--;_ylg=X3oDMTFoNjVvZWVyBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRw c3RhaWQDBHBzdGNhdANuYmEEcHQDc2VjdGlvbnM-;_ylv=3


Why do we end up with Gasol. :facepalm:

pnoyz15
08-09-2012, 01:04 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--lakers--magic-in-blockbuster-four-team-trade-talks-to-send-dwight-howard-to-l-a-.html

troessler80
08-09-2012, 01:05 PM
Hopefully the Nuggets get Bynum

NBA-GMaster
08-09-2012, 01:05 PM
I hope they make it a 5 team trade :laugh2:

IgglesFanInCO
08-09-2012, 01:05 PM
Bynum's probably going to philly in this scenario, Denver sounds really commited to McGee right now, makes me wonder what denver is getting out of it, they are one of the better stocked teams in the league in terms of tradeable assets, with cap room and no bad contracts and all their picks for a while, but what are they gettin?

But alas :shrug: won't happen anyways, this **** is ridiculous

LakersIn5
08-09-2012, 01:06 PM
no! no! no! dont give both bynum and pau! no mitch please!

dwight
harrington
mwp
kobe
nash

is worse than what the lakers have now!

B'sCeltsPatsSox
08-09-2012, 01:06 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/author/adrian-wojnarowski/;_ylt=Aqo6F4Teb0rSipgzGeDPH5S8vLYF;_ylu=X3oDMTIycm 5pMjI2BG1pdANMSVNUUyBNaXhlZCBMaXN0IE5CQSBFeHBlcnRz BHBvcwMxBHNlYwNNZWRpYUJMaXN0TWl4ZWRMUENBVGVtcA--;_ylg=X3oDMTFoNjVvZWVyBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRw c3RhaWQDBHBzdGNhdANuYmEEcHQDc2VjdGlvbnM-;_ylv=3


Why do we end up with Gasol. :facepalm:

If I was Orlando I'd try to get Gallo instead of Afflalo.

PocketKings
08-09-2012, 01:06 PM
LAL Out: Pau/Bynum
LAL In: Dwight/Al Harrington

PHI Out: Iggy
PHI In: Bynum

Den Out: Harrington/Afflalo
Den In: Iggy

Orl Out: D12
Orl In: Pau/Afflalo

Whaaa... :speechless:

DaddyCool
08-09-2012, 01:06 PM
Bynum would do wonders for the 76ers. Finally someone an inside presence to help Jrue and Turner's development.

sixer04fan
08-09-2012, 01:06 PM
I'm hoping Philly is involved to take on Bynum because he won't sign with Orlando?

More realistically we're taking on Gasol and/or Metta somehow while giving up Iggy. :facepalm:

PocketKings
08-09-2012, 01:07 PM
Nash - Kobe - Poop - Jamison - Dwight

Hmm...

Iron24th
08-09-2012, 01:07 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/author/adrian-wojnarowski/;_ylt=Aqo6F4Teb0rSipgzGeDPH5S8vLYF;_ylu=X3oDMTIycm 5pMjI2BG1pdANMSVNUUyBNaXhlZCBMaXN0IE5CQSBFeHBlcnRz BHBvcwMxBHNlYwNNZWRpYUJMaXN0TWl4ZWRMUENBVGVtcA--;_ylg=X3oDMTFoNjVvZWVyBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRw c3RhaWQDBHBzdGNhdANuYmEEcHQDc2VjdGlvbnM-;_ylv=3


Why do we end up with Gasol. :facepalm:

I wondering too

phlp_bj
08-09-2012, 01:07 PM
I'm guessing magic will have someone take Jrich too

*Superman*
08-09-2012, 01:09 PM
If I was Orlando I'd try to get Gallo instead of Afflalo.

This must be a really rough framework, i know the Magic will be demanding more then just those two.

Philly comes out a huge winner from this if bynum resigns.

Lakerfrk
08-09-2012, 01:09 PM
This is terrible for the Lakers....

Lose Bynum and Gasol to get Howard and Al Harrington? Awful... no thanks...

PocketKings
08-09-2012, 01:10 PM
Doesn't make sense for the Lakers though tbh.

AndyfromNeptune
08-09-2012, 01:10 PM
Whatever the trade is, there is no question that if the Lakers get Dwight Howard, they are an instant championship team.


They should be willing to give up whatever it takes other than Nash and Kobe.

hgtiger32
08-09-2012, 01:10 PM
What if Lakers pulled a miracle and ended up with:

Nash
Kobe
Iggy
Pau
Howard



Lol

Yes because dealing only Bynum to get Iggy and Howard makes sense. :facepalm:

michael811
08-09-2012, 01:10 PM
I doubt this happens I don't see the Lakers moving both bynum and Gasol to get howard

AndyfromNeptune
08-09-2012, 01:11 PM
Big contracts that can be moved in this deal could include Andre Igudola, Hedo Turkoglu, Dwight Howard, Andrew Bynum, Wilson Chandler, and Danilo Gallinari.

*Superman*
08-09-2012, 01:11 PM
Josh Robbins ‏@JoshuaBRobbins
RT @zachlowe_si: Both Sixers and Nuggets are capped out, so this potential four-teamer does not include a team with room to absorb extra $.

But the Nuggets do have a 13M trade exception.

NYtilIdie
08-09-2012, 01:11 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/author/adrian-wojnarowski/;_ylt=Aqo6F4Teb0rSipgzGeDPH5S8vLYF;_ylu=X3oDMTIycm 5pMjI2BG1pdANMSVNUUyBNaXhlZCBMaXN0IE5CQSBFeHBlcnRz BHBvcwMxBHNlYwNNZWRpYUJMaXN0TWl4ZWRMUENBVGVtcA--;_ylg=X3oDMTFoNjVvZWVyBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRw c3RhaWQDBHBzdGNhdANuYmEEcHQDc2VjdGlvbnM-;_ylv=3


Why do we end up with Gasol. :facepalm:

Somehow the Magic keep raping themselves in these trade scenarios, they should at least get Bynum & Iggy out of this deal. Usually the team with the star player gets most in return, but the Magic seem to do everything in their power to avoid that.

B'sCeltsPatsSox
08-09-2012, 01:11 PM
I really hope the Lakers do this if Woj's framework is correct.

LakersIn5
08-09-2012, 01:12 PM
But the Nuggets do have a 13M trade exception.

this

valade16
08-09-2012, 01:12 PM
Yes because dealing only Bynum to get Iggy and Howard makes sense. :facepalm:

Hence the word "miracle"...

*Superman*
08-09-2012, 01:12 PM
I doubt this happens I don't see the Lakers moving both bynum and Gasol to get howard

If they think Bynum will just walk then I can see why they are dealing both for Howard.

PocketKings
08-09-2012, 01:13 PM
This makes me cringe.

Rockice_8
08-09-2012, 01:13 PM
The fact it is Wojo makes me believe the end might be near. Wojo doesn't mess with that BS.

Wojo had him in a Lakers/Nets uniforms on more then one occasion. This is nothing more then BS "sources" until the press conference is scheduled.

That's when I'll start paying attention again.

beliges
08-09-2012, 01:13 PM
I think its been made extremely clear that the Lakers will NOT be moving Pau AND Bynum. However, if the rumors of Pau are out there, im sure AI from Philli would be involved to come to the Lakers.

LakersKB24
08-09-2012, 01:14 PM
This MUST NOT happen! Please let this be BS...

Wade>You
08-09-2012, 01:14 PM
Is any mod planning to merge this?

IgglesFanInCO
08-09-2012, 01:14 PM
Theres gotta be some more picks or something to this rumor, its just not even right now, ORL is getting boned while the nuggets and sixers are getting complete steals

Most nuggets fans were hoping Al would get cut or traded for a 2020 2nd rounder, so its basically Afflalo for Iggy

Zackthesack
08-09-2012, 01:14 PM
I think its been made extremely clear that the Lakers will NOT be moving Pau AND Bynum. However, if the rumors of Pau are out there, im sure AI from Philli would be involved to come to the Lakers.

Like someone else has said, no way in hell nuggets help the lakers unless they are getting something of decent worth in return. THerefore i assume they get iggy.

*Superman*
08-09-2012, 01:15 PM
Somehow the Magic keep raping themselves in these trade scenarios, they should at least get Bynum & Iggy out of this deal. Usually the team with the star player gets most in return, but the Magic seem to do everything in their power to avoid that.

I don't think Bynum will end up on the Magic roster in any trade since he's a FA and they don't want him walking. So adding Iggy at that point would be useless IMO. Either way this deal BLOWS for the Magic. Zero sense in adding Gasol and Arron for Dwight is a joke in its own.

justinnum1
08-09-2012, 01:16 PM
Just do it already

Da Knicks
08-09-2012, 01:17 PM
If I was Orlando I'd try to get Gallo instead of Afflalo.

This gallo is 3x better than afflalo but i think denver knows this too.

Rockice_8
08-09-2012, 01:17 PM
From reading through the posts it looks like Orlando is getting rapped again. LA fans don't want to trade both bigs, Philly fans are thrilled and DEN fans are undecided cause they'll be the ones getting the crap contracts with Iggy.

The Best Around
08-09-2012, 01:18 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--lakers--magic-in-blockbuster-four-team-trade-talks-to-send-dwight-howard-to-l-a-.html

Oh yeah because the Magic are clearly going to trade Howard for a good player with a bad contract (Gasol) and a decent player with a bad contract (Afflalo). And the 76ers are clearly going to give up Iggy and get Bynum.

StinkEye
08-09-2012, 01:18 PM
I don't know what I'll do without my Dwight rumours :cry: please never end!

Yanks All Day
08-09-2012, 01:18 PM
Not too bad for the 76ers if they believe they can re-sign Bynum.

Like Denver getting Iguodala.

Orlando gets shafted in the trade as-is. Can only assume 1st rounders will be exchanged as well.

Lakers? Why get rid of 2 7 footers just to have Howard? Aging Kobe and Nash, inconsistent MWP, shaky bench, and an offensively-inconsistent Howard doesn't seem like a team to get past OKC or San Antonio.

justinnum1
08-09-2012, 01:18 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/author/adrian-wojnarowski/;_ylt=Aqo6F4Teb0rSipgzGeDPH5S8vLYF;_ylu=X3oDMTIycm 5pMjI2BG1pdANMSVNUUyBNaXhlZCBMaXN0IE5CQSBFeHBlcnRz BHBvcwMxBHNlYwNNZWRpYUJMaXN0TWl4ZWRMUENBVGVtcA--;_ylg=X3oDMTFoNjVvZWVyBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRw c3RhaWQDBHBzdGNhdANuYmEEcHQDc2VjdGlvbnM-;_ylv=3


Why do we end up with Gasol. :facepalm:

Thats an awful deal for the magic lol

LongIslandIcedZ
08-09-2012, 01:19 PM
I think while Woj probably has the teams right, he's definitely off on where the players are going. This deal makes 0 sense.

Lewisknows
08-09-2012, 01:19 PM
Plus al an expiring contract I think and look a the bright side that that thirty six million between pau and Bynum Howard makes 20 so it a Plan they have so moving them I'm all for it then we can start to rebuild honestly I think Nash going to retire if he wins an ring then who is the point guard that out there is Chris Paul u watch

justinnum1
08-09-2012, 01:20 PM
Is any mod planning to merge this?

report it if you have a concern

richiesaurus310
08-09-2012, 01:21 PM
I still think the clippers have a better shot at trading for dwight as a rental...

Clippers get:
Dwight
Jason richardson
Q rich

Magic get:
Deandre jordan
Clippers 2013 first round pick
3rd team 2014 first round pick

3rd team:
Caron butler
Another magic player

JOhnnyTHaJet
08-09-2012, 01:22 PM
I still think the clippers have a better shot at trading for dwight as a rental...

Clippers get:
Dwight
Jason richardson
Q rich

Magic get:
Deandre jordan
Clippers 2013 first round pick
3rd team 2014 first round pick

3rd team:
Caron butler
Another magic player
I hope you're kidding, that trade is a joke.

alexander_37
08-09-2012, 01:22 PM
What if Lakers pulled a miracle and ended up with:

Nash
Kobe
Iggy
Pau
Howard



Lol

I would never watch NBA basketball again ... ever.

*Superman*
08-09-2012, 01:23 PM
Chad Evans ‏@ChadEvansNBA
Jason Richardson is under the belief that he may get traded to Denver.


John Hollinger ‏@johnhollinger
As others have noted, this one reeks of "hey Houston, we're gonna do this. I swear. I'm just about to do it. No really. Here I go ...".

AndyfromNeptune
08-09-2012, 01:23 PM
All I can tell is that the Magic would probably get 3-5 first round picks out of this deal along with second round picks from the Lakers.

AndyfromNeptune
08-09-2012, 01:24 PM
The Lakers would be giving up both bigs so they do not have to get rid of so many more future picks. They still want to be able to rebuild if Kobe and Nash abruptly retire.

AndyfromNeptune
08-09-2012, 01:25 PM
A lot of Lakers fans will not like giving up two bigs, but for Dwight Howard, the deal is worth it. Maybe the Lakers aren't absolutely dominating a trade for once, but they are getting a superstar.

SouthSideRookie
08-09-2012, 01:25 PM
http://www.teamusa.org/~/media/TeamUSA/Gymnastics/Maroney_McKayla_vaultfinal_300x375_2012.jpg

AKA TheMamba
08-09-2012, 01:26 PM
salaries don't match at all, expect the lakers to ask for T. Young also.

justinnum1
08-09-2012, 01:26 PM
just realized, lakers give up bynum and gasol? damn. When dwight gets in foul trouble they are going to be in trouble. Al harrington is not a big, he is more of a wing

WaltonSystem
08-09-2012, 01:26 PM
Trade works with the basic framework + J-Rich to either LA or Denver. I'm sure we'll see a wealth of picks headed to Orlando from all teams involved.

beliges
08-09-2012, 01:26 PM
Like someone else has said, no way in hell nuggets help the lakers unless they are getting something of decent worth in return. THerefore i assume they get iggy.

In that case, theres just no substance in this rumor. The Lakers dont NEED Dwight. And they can get Dwight for just Bynum + fillers. They dont need to give up Pau in that deal as well. Simply doesnt make sense. The only way I see LA moving Pau and Bynum is if they were getting Dwight and Iggy.

And Denver is not gonna be helping LA with this deal, they are gonna be helping themselves. Not like Denver is competing with the Lakers anytime soon anyways. Theyre a 7-8 seed at best for the next few years unless something drastic happens.

goose14741
08-09-2012, 01:27 PM
howard harrington to lakers
iggy to nuggets
bynum to 76ers
gasol affalo to magic

JOhnnyTHaJet
08-09-2012, 01:27 PM
Wait so Denver is going to play AI at the 2? A bit odd. And Orlando only gets Pau and Affalo? No picks or cap relief? I'm a bit shocked.

FraziersKnicks
08-09-2012, 01:28 PM
:laugh2: This is amazing!

Bynum AND Gasol for Dwight?? Please do this Lakers :pray:

Giving up the 2nd best center and a top 5 PF for the biggest ***** in the NBA. He's an improvement over Bynum, but not a Pau Gasol-sized improvement. Horrible trade for the Lakers.

akesh99
08-09-2012, 01:28 PM
If the framework is somewhat accurate, LA gets raped and DEN walks way laughing. I guess LA really wants Dwight..

AndyfromNeptune
08-09-2012, 01:28 PM
Antwan Jamison could stretch the floor at the power forward allowing Howard room in the paint.

World Peace, Howard, and Bryant can all hold their own defensively.

justinnum1
08-09-2012, 01:29 PM
Not really sure this improves them a whole lot over a frontline of bynum and gasol. I was looking forward to seeing what nash could do with those 2.

Hawkeye15
08-09-2012, 01:29 PM
as someone who hates the Lakers, I like the rumor. Dwight/Harrington for Bynum/Gasol is a downgrade.

D12 fan
08-09-2012, 01:29 PM
LA must get Dwight/Iggy if they trade Bynum/Gasol,im not buying the current deal with Bynum/Gasol for Dwight/Harrington.

SYCE
08-09-2012, 01:30 PM
Wow. Basically a Iguodala for Bynum swap for the Sixers in this scenario? Even if they had to give up a first rounder or two, I'd still do it assuming Bynum will resign!!!

AndyfromNeptune
08-09-2012, 01:31 PM
I could see the Lakers getting depth in return for losing Gasol and Howard. Their bench has really struggled, and they could use the extra players.

justinnum1
08-09-2012, 01:31 PM
:laugh2: This is amazing!

Bynum AND Gasol for Dwight?? Please do this Lakers :pray:

Giving up the 2nd best center and a top 5 PF for the biggest ***** in the NBA. He's an improvement over Bynum, but not a Pau Gasol-sized improvement. Horrible trade for the Lakers.

Yea, not really sure this is a huge upgrade for the lakers. I guess the lakers cant get dwight without giving up both bigs.

Zackthesack
08-09-2012, 01:31 PM
In that case, theres just no substance in this rumor. The Lakers dont NEED Dwight. And they can get Dwight for just Bynum + fillers. They dont need to give up Pau in that deal as well. Simply doesnt make sense. The only way I see LA moving Pau and Bynum is if they were getting Dwight and Iggy.

And Denver is not gonna be helping LA with this deal, they are gonna be helping themselves. Not like Denver is competing with the Lakers anytime soon anyways. Theyre a 7-8 seed at best for the next few years unless something drastic happens.

7-8 seed really? They took the lakers to 7 games with a young *** team that had been together for less than a year. Lakers added nash, doesnt put them that far ahead... they wont give up players to help the lakers move even farther ahead is all my point.

AndyfromNeptune
08-09-2012, 01:31 PM
If the Magic could get more than 3 first round picks and 2 second round picks in this deal, they walk away with the possibility of becoming a very good team.

keetyweedy
08-09-2012, 01:31 PM
If Bynum goes to philly I like our chances to eventually getting him that much more

lakersiznumber1
08-09-2012, 01:31 PM
this trade sucks for lakers why we givin up pau and getting back al hell no:facepalm: now i understand why we pushing for kmart

justinnum1
08-09-2012, 01:32 PM
as someone who hates the Lakers, I like the rumor. Dwight/Harrington for Bynum/Gasol is a downgrade.


Not sure it's that much of a downgrade but i dont see it being an upgrade.

Really depends on what nash can get out of bynum and gasol. I would at least start the season and see how they look.

WaltonSystem
08-09-2012, 01:33 PM
I don't see why people aren't saying the pieces don't work for their teams..

LA gets Dwight + bad player with bad contract = Laker logic of "who gives a F^&* we got Dwight."

Denver gets Iggy who is a outstanding defender probably sends picks to ORL , and opens up the pre-summer idea of trading Wilson Chandler (who has a great deal) Plus with their current personnel i doubt the Nugs are thinking WIN NOW.

Philly gets a real Center and a top 5 big in Bynum and sends out picks to ORL

ORL gets an easier player to trade in Pau + Picks and definite cap relief

keetyweedy
08-09-2012, 01:33 PM
as someone who hates the Lakers, I like the rumor. Dwight/Harrington for Bynum/Gasol is a downgrade.

x100,000

Ill21
08-09-2012, 01:33 PM
I don't see Bynum signing an extension with Philly. But if he does, this is a hell of a deal for them

AndyfromNeptune
08-09-2012, 01:34 PM
It took Kobe and Shaq to win a championship.

Kobe and Howard can win a championship together as well.


I think people are overrating Gasol and Bynum's impact here.

AndyfromNeptune
08-09-2012, 01:34 PM
You really cannot judge this trade without taking into consideration draft picks.

AndyfromNeptune
08-09-2012, 01:34 PM
This trade will look a lot different after the Nuggets and Sixers give up 2-3 first round picks each.

D12 fan
08-09-2012, 01:35 PM
328 guest WOW

I thought people hated Dwight.

Avenged
08-09-2012, 01:35 PM
Bynum and Pau?? Please no!!! That's too much. Kobe is not in his prime anymore.

AKA TheMamba
08-09-2012, 01:35 PM
Yes because dealing only Bynum to get Iggy and Howard makes sense. :facepalm:

Pau is on the move also in the deal...
Bynum + Pau for Howard + Iggy - Could happen :cool:

Bynum + Pau for Howard + Harrington + Thad Young makes some sense. :speechless:

justinnum1
08-09-2012, 01:35 PM
It took Kobe and Shaq to win a championship.

Kobe and Howard can win a championship together as well.


I think people are overrating Gasol and Bynum's impact here.

They were both in their primes at the time...

goose14741
08-09-2012, 01:35 PM
nuggets
lawson-iggy-gallo-faried-mcgee 6th chandler
philly
holliday-turner-harkless-hawes-bynum 6th young
lakers
nash-kobe-mwp-jamison-dwight 6th harrington
magic
nelson-affalo-turk-davis-gasol 6th richardson

nuggets- better
philly- better
lakers- better
magic-always gunna be worse but best offer to date if they can get some picks and maybe make someone pick up j-rich or turk

justinnum1
08-09-2012, 01:35 PM
Bynum and Pau?? Please no!!! That's too much. Kobe is not in his prime anymore.

I think so too

Avenged
08-09-2012, 01:35 PM
The 76ers with Bynum.. If only they could keep Iggy too.. :drool:

hidalgo
08-09-2012, 01:35 PM
I would never watch NBA basketball again ... ever.i wouldn't watch 1 second of that unfair BS either. it's 1 thing to be stacked like they ALREADY ARE, it's quite another to be unfairly stacked adding Dwight. that's just cheating to get a title. it would be almost impossible for them not to win. the NBA is rigged for LA to always pull of this 'miracle'(yea right, pre-planned) BS. the CP3 thing was probably ruze to make it seem LA isn't rigged by the NBA to compete. they knew to wait for Howard, the even better scenario, & look like victims. lol suuuuurre

i know he's going their, the yankees of the NBA. this title is stamped "VOID", doesn't count just like yankees titles don't. when other owners CONSTANTY bust their *** to make the lakers win, it's obviously on purpose

D12 fan
08-09-2012, 01:36 PM
I see LA getting more peices more like Bynum/Pau for Dwight/Harrington/Chandler/Gallo

macc
08-09-2012, 01:37 PM
If the main players of this trade is true then I can see Orlando getting Gasol and flipping him for some 1sts or young up and comers and cap relief. I don't see how they would want Gasol on their roster at the start of the season.

IndyRealist
08-09-2012, 01:37 PM
LAL Out: Pau/Bynum
LAL In: Dwight/Al Harrington

PHI Out: Iggy
PHI In: Bynum

Den Out: Harrington/Afflalo
Den In: Iggy

Orl Out: D12
Orl In: Pau/Afflalo

Whaaa... :speechless:

Philly and Denver make out like bandits.

WaltonSystem
08-09-2012, 01:37 PM
nuggets
lawson-iggy-gallo-faried-mcgee 6th chandler
philly
holliday-turner-harkless-hawes-bynum 6th young
lakers
nash-kobe-mwp-jamison-dwight 6th harrington
magic
nelson-affalo-turk-davis-gasol 6th richardson

nuggets- better
philly- better
lakers- better
magic-always gunna be worse but best offer to date if they can get some picks and maybe make someone pick up j-rich or turk

J-Rich will be headed to either LA or Denver, salary-wise both teams could absorb his $$$.

justinnum1
08-09-2012, 01:38 PM
I see LA getting more peices more like Bynum/Pau for Dwight/Harrington/Chandler/Gallo

lmao. no way.

keetyweedy
08-09-2012, 01:38 PM
so philly let Lu Will go and got Korver & possibly bynum...if this goes through they shouldnt be that bad in the east im thinking 5th or possibly 4th, I just dont like doug collins as a coach, never have

Zackthesack
08-09-2012, 01:40 PM
I see LA getting more peices more like Bynum/Pau for Dwight/Harrington/Chandler/Gallo

you really think denver is going to give up that much, and send it straight to the lakers? what the hell you smoking?

D12 fan
08-09-2012, 01:41 PM
lmao. now way.

Yeah maybe that's to much but Denver has to add either Chandler or Gallo.

justinnum1
08-09-2012, 01:41 PM
you really think denver is going to give up that much, and send it straight to the lakers? what the hell you smoking?

for real lol:smoking:

WaltonSystem
08-09-2012, 01:42 PM
If you look at Philly's roster there aren't many tradeable assets.. Iggy, T. Young, Holiday, Vucevic, and Turner.

I'm guessing Holiday & Turner are untouchable.

Faneik
08-09-2012, 01:43 PM
what's the most realistic rumour going on?

Bellz
08-09-2012, 01:43 PM
i wouldn't watch 1 second of that unfair BS either. it's 1 thing to be stacked like they ALREADY ARE, it's quite another to be unfairly stacked adding Dwight. that's just cheating to get a title. it would be almost impossible for them not to win. the NBA is rigged for LA to always pull of this 'miracle'(yea right, pre-planned) BS. the CP3 thing was probably ruze to make it seem LA isn't rigged by the NBA to compete. they knew to wait for Howard, the even better scenario, & look like victims. lol suuuuurre

i know he's going their, the yankees of the NBA. this title is stamped "VOID", doesn't count just like yankees titles don't. when other owners CONSTANTY bust their *** to make the lakers win, it's obviously on purpose

The Lakers and Yankees have both been the top teams of their respected sports for years andhave won a championship in every decade but the 80s(the yankees)for the last 30 years..... But yea their titles dont count lol Haters gunna hate

hidalgo
08-09-2012, 01:44 PM
the Magic are out of their minds if they let their 2nd HOF C go to the lakers. hace some pride orlando!! LA WILL WIN TITLES WITH YOUR IDIOTIC TRADE & YOU'LL STILL SUCK. you wanna reward howard with titles? help kobe win more weak mega stacked team titles? lose your 2nd HOF C to the same team? they're either on crack to even speak 1 word to LA, or the NBA is rigged & these owners conspire to make LA win. send him anywhere else. the Nets wouldn't be unstoppable at all with Dwight, & orlando is gonna be avg at very best so who cares if he's in the east? good god orlando, have some pride, & don't create a juggernaut in LA. i know you LOVE the lakers winning titles at your expense, but isn't it enough already!!!??? (3 with Shaq, & the 09 beatdown). twilight zone & beyond to help them after all that. keep him the full season if need be. take b lopez for him. just stop the LA titles at your expense you efing nimrods! UNREAL

Kobe2324
08-09-2012, 01:44 PM
kind of figured it was the calm before the storm, I know everyone wants a deal done quick, but take into consideration that dwight will only sign longterm with two teams, both those teams have no assets that orl want, so now orl has to trade him to the lakers because they have the only asset that other teams would want in a blockbuster deal. I kind of figure the lakers were scheming something up to entice other teams to get in on the deal, so you have to figure after a few weeks of silence that they probably have something something good planned and probly a deal gets done shortly, would be nice to end this nightmare either way even if he dosnt go to the lakers, at least for orl to move on once and for all.

keetyweedy
08-09-2012, 01:44 PM
but wouldnt this be dumb on Orlando's behalf? because they still need to shred those bad contracts along w/ bringin in pau who makes like what 18-19mil this season? even if Orlando decides to use him to get assets is there even any interest for him for that price besides maybe houston?

LoveMeOrHateMe
08-09-2012, 01:45 PM
Hate this trade if it's true! Lakers would be getting raped

shep33
08-09-2012, 01:46 PM
Doesn't make sense for LA.

tuki274
08-09-2012, 01:46 PM
sorry but I'm really LOL-ing at the people that think that Lakers can possibly get Howard+Iggy ... what do the other teams get for giving up those players? Who does denver get for giving up harrington and afflalo?

Howard+Harrington+ThadYoung... thats possible but Thad young and iggy for Bynum.. i dont think Philly goes for that!

thedfactor
08-09-2012, 01:46 PM
Haha the Magic land Gasol and Afflalo in this one, simply no brainer!! My these trade offers keep getting more ridiculously horrendous. Magic are either getting a crap return or nada. They may be better off with nada.

Lewisknows
08-09-2012, 01:47 PM
Man I love this lakers losing 36 million in pau and Bynum and getting about 27 million in d12 and Harrington I'm all for it and there an power forward out there by the name of Paul millsap lakers not just going to trade both without a plan pull the dam trigger coming from an laker fan

WaltonSystem
08-09-2012, 01:47 PM
but wouldnt this be dumb on Orlando's behalf? because they still need to shred those bad contracts along w/ bringin in pau who makes like what 18-19mil this season? even if Orlando decides to use him to get assets is there even any interest for him for that price besides maybe houston?

There are plenty of teams that would be willing to take Pau away, especially because ORL would just be asking for expirings + Picks, not equal talent value like LA was asking for. Also expect J-Rich to head out in the deal, so really its just Turk who needs to find a home at some point.

justinnum1
08-09-2012, 01:47 PM
Doesn't make sense for LA.

Agree. When it goes down i see it being a 3 team deal, 4 team just seems to complicated.

mamba24
08-09-2012, 01:47 PM
I think what people need to remember is the Lakers just hired Eddie Jordan as an assistant coach... He's bringing the Princeton Offense. That offense REQUIRES the Lakers to have a stretch 4... Jamison and Harrington. That entire offense is based on 4 perimeter players with 1 big guy. The reason this could work is that the Magic will end up with draft picks as well AND in the long run they will save money. Lakers save money AND pick up another 3 pt shooting power forward. Bottom line is they will still contend for a title. They will also have someone to build around when Kobe and Nash are gone. Sixers get a SOLID big in Drew. He will work well with Holiday and Turner. Denver gets AI. He fits their athletic team and gives the Nuggets a go to guy that they havent had since Melo

justinnum1
08-09-2012, 01:49 PM
haberstroh
Last year, Iguodala held SG counterparts to 9.9 pts per 36 minutes on 40% shooting. Or, turned them into Keyon Dooling.

keetyweedy
08-09-2012, 01:49 PM
Haha the Magic land Gasol and Afflalo in this one, simply no brainer!! My these trade offers keep getting more ridiculously horrendous. Magic are either getting a crap return or nada. They may be better off with nada.

That sig:clap:

ThunderousDemon
08-09-2012, 01:50 PM
http://www.teamusa.org/~/media/TeamUSA/Gymnastics/Maroney_McKayla_vaultfinal_300x375_2012.jpg

:laugh2:

hugepatsfan
08-09-2012, 01:51 PM
I really like the idea of Iggy playing SG w/ Lawson at the point and Gallo at the 3. I think that's a good fit for him offensively.

WaltonSystem
08-09-2012, 01:52 PM
You can probably bet Wilson Chandler is on the move post-trade.

PJAF
08-09-2012, 01:52 PM
Can't stand WOJO. Guy thinks he knows everything and knows nothing.

D12 fan
08-09-2012, 01:53 PM
LA will get Dwight/Chandler/Harrington that is a better deal.

ThunderousDemon
08-09-2012, 01:54 PM
No way this trade happens, Mitch wouldn't give up both bigs for Howard and a bench player.

keetyweedy
08-09-2012, 01:54 PM
There are plenty of teams that would be willing to take Pau away, especially because ORL would just be asking for expirings + Picks, not equal talent value like LA was asking for. Also expect J-Rich to head out in the deal, so really its just Turk who needs to find a home at some point.

what teams? maybe bad ones, because no legitimate contender as of right now has that type of money to spend on a aging pau gasol...19 mil for 1 yr takes up a lot of cap if they are only expecting expiring + picks

beliges
08-09-2012, 01:55 PM
7-8 seed really? They took the lakers to 7 games with a young *** team that had been together for less than a year. Lakers added nash, doesnt put them that far ahead... they wont give up players to help the lakers move even farther ahead is all my point.

I mean sure the Nuggets have a solid team but let be real here, theyre not competing for a title. If they get passed the 1st round, its a major success for them. THats pretty much all theyre playing for.

And yes the Lakers are old and they added an old Nash. But that addition in and of itself makes them substantially much more dangerous team than they have been for the past 3 years. Nash is a phenomenal player that will help that team tremendously. Certainly makes the Lakers a legitimate championship team along with the Heat and Thunder.

Kobe2324
08-09-2012, 01:55 PM
the Magic are out of their minds if they let their 2nd HOF C go to the lakers. hace some pride orlando!! LA WILL WIN TITLES WITH YOUR IDIOTIC TRADE & YOU'LL STILL SUCK. you wanna reward howard with titles? help kobe win more weak mega stacked team titles? lose your 2nd HOF C to the same team? they're either on crack to even speak 1 word to LA, or the NBA is rigged & these owners conspire to make LA win. send him anywhere else. the Nets wouldn't be unstoppable at all with Dwight, & orlando is gonna be avg at very best so who cares if he's in the east? good god orlando, have some pride, & don't create a juggernaut in LA. i know you LOVE the lakers winning titles at your expense, but isn't it enough already!!!??? (3 with Shaq, & the 09 beatdown). twilight zone & beyond to help them after all that

this situation is dif than with shaq, the rules were a little dif then, basically the Lakers had more money than orl and just outbid them for shaq. Unlike this era if you have a player's bird rights you can offer him more than any other team. So although it seems that orl has given up two C to the lakers it really wasn't, the lakers just had deeper pockets and we all know shaq also like to have his pockets full. as far as with dwight, i would have traded him to houston just to upset him if i was orl...but that ship sailed and now the only team that wants him is the lakers...so have no choice

justinnum1
08-09-2012, 01:55 PM
LA will get Dwight/Chandler/Harrington that is a better deal.

No they won't.

keetyweedy
08-09-2012, 01:57 PM
No way this trade happens, Mitch wouldn't give up both bigs for Howard and a bench player.

yea really doesnt make sense to get rid of Pau+bynum for D12 & harrington(who imo does the same thing artest does)

IgglesFanInCO
08-09-2012, 01:57 PM
The nuggets will probably give up picks and maybe their trade exception and philly will give up picks too and that stuff will even it out, Orlando will get picks and get rid of a bad contract or two while getting pau and afflalo

Nuggets would still have the youngest starting 5 in the game and would have an allstar and 4 other potential all-star caliber guys while having one of the better and younger benchs in the game

Philly would ave a franchise big to build a contender around while not giving up too much in the process, they would have an oppurtunity to really grow into contention in a few years

Lakers would get the best big in the game and a top 3 player who can make a huge impact on a game WHILE kobe hogs the ball, and harrington is a good backup stretch big

Orlando would get a young glue guy an old all-star PF and picks to rebuild while getting rid of a bad contract most likely, one of their best opportunities to rebuild at this point

WaltonSystem
08-09-2012, 01:57 PM
what teams? maybe bad ones, because no legitimate contender as of right now has that type of money to spend on a aging pau gasol...19 mil for 1 yr takes up a lot of cap if they are only expecting expiring + picks

The team would probably be a Lottery team, but i think Minnesota would send out a couple players/Picks for a Gasol + Rubio reunion.

ThunderousDemon
08-09-2012, 01:57 PM
No they won't.

They won't because no trade of any kind involving both Pau and Bynum is imminent.

YouCan'tBeatLA
08-09-2012, 01:58 PM
Philly would have time give up Holiday or Turner (to Lakers) if they want Bynum.

hidalgo
08-09-2012, 01:59 PM
i think i always had the intuition Dwight would be on the lakers one day, that's why i never really liked him. Nash on the other hand, that shocked me, that freakin little rat, i really liked him before this, now i wish him 0 wins until he retires. ZERO. i'll never respect him again sellin out like a chump to LA, especially after he just got done saying how old school he was, & couldn't imagine playing for LA. yea lying turd, real old school there buddy. he's dead to me

LongIslandIcedZ
08-09-2012, 02:00 PM
I cannot imagine Orlando trading Dwight for Pau. It would be better for them to just keep Dwight, tank, and have a shot at a top 2 pick. No need to take on two overpayed players at this point in their career. Best case scenario for that team would be the 9 or 10 seed. Not nearly good enough chances for a top pick.

Illa215
08-09-2012, 02:00 PM
This would help the Sixers out way too much to happen. Heck, when have the Sixers ever even been mentioned in a trade rumor?

keetyweedy
08-09-2012, 02:01 PM
The team would probably be a Lottery team, but i think Minnesota would send out a couple players/Picks for a Gasol + Rubio reunion.

that would be pretty wild for Minny only thing standing in there way is a 6'10 F who avg 26 & 13 last season, waist of money no way Minny does that

Cal827
08-09-2012, 02:02 PM
This deal should only go through, of one team agrees to get rid of nickdymez :D

Illa215
08-09-2012, 02:02 PM
Philly would have time give up Holiday or Turner (to Lakers) if they want Bynum.

Apparently not.

They'd probably have to give up a big and a pick, but Holiday/Turner are staying at this point.

KB24PG16
08-09-2012, 02:02 PM
Lol it never ends

slynxpac
08-09-2012, 02:03 PM
The Sport Place ‏@SportMinuteUpd8
Trade is rumored to not be close to finalization but my sources tell me 3 of the 4 teams have signed off on the trade.

The Sport Place ‏@SportMinuteUpd8
Orlando is rumored to be willing to flip Gasol to the highest bidder at the trade deadline.

WaltonSystem
08-09-2012, 02:05 PM
that would be pretty wild for Minny only thing standing in there way is a 6'10 F who avg 26 & 13 last season, waist of money no way Minny does that

I wouldn't say it's too crazy and they'd probably Pau @ C. Even though Pek had a great season last year i'd say they'd probably take Pau.
Either way, a player of Gasol's talent will always be a tradeable commodity even if the contract comes at a price.

YouCan'tBeatLA
08-09-2012, 02:05 PM
Apparently not.

They'd probably have to give up a big and a pick, but Holiday/Turner are staying at this point.

Sorry, but Iggy + Thad will not get you Bynum. Iggy + Turner/Holiday might.

hidalgo
08-09-2012, 02:05 PM
I cannot imagine Orlando trading Dwight for Pau. It would be better for them to just keep Dwight, tank, and have a shot at a top 2 pick. No need to take on two overpayed players at this point in their career. Best case scenario for that team would be the 9 or 10 seed. Not nearly good enough chances for a top pick.Pau is a future HOFer. but he's only got probably 2 good years left. why anyone would turn LA into a mega monster for Gasol at the end of his career, is mind boggling & downright bizzare behavior. psychotic even

Pakman
08-09-2012, 02:06 PM
Anybody think a deal happens soon?

IgglesFanInCO
08-09-2012, 02:06 PM
The Sport Place ‏@SportMinuteUpd8
Trade is rumored to not be close to finalization but my sources tell me 3 of the 4 teams have signed off on the trade.

The Sport Place ‏@SportMinuteUpd8
Orlando is rumored to be willing to flip Gasol to the highest bidder at the trade deadline.

And it all makes sense

keetyweedy
08-09-2012, 02:07 PM
The team would probably be a Lottery team, but i think Minnesota would send out a couple players/Picks for a Gasol + Rubio reunion.

cleveland on the other hand I could possibly see more believable

1.Irving
2.waiters
3.thompson
4.Gasol
5.Zeller

SYCE
08-09-2012, 02:08 PM
Sorry, but Iggy + Thad will not get you Bynum. Iggy + Turner/Holiday might.

Says who? Every report I saw said not one word about Turner OR Holiday. Heck, I don't even know if Thad is on the move! It will end up being Iguodala/a pick or two.

KB24PG16
08-09-2012, 02:08 PM
this is not that great for la if it goes through like this

BigCityofDreams
08-09-2012, 02:09 PM
Anybody think a deal happens soon?

Doubt it so many moving parts

D Blue987
08-09-2012, 02:09 PM
I dont like this trade for the Lakers. You dont get rid of both bigs to get 1 and a decent bench player. Ill be sorely disappointed in the Lakers FO if this happens. 4 teams is too many teams in this deal.

AirJordanXVIII
08-09-2012, 02:10 PM
This is just great if the Sixers get Bynum for just Iggy :laugh:

YouCan'tBeatLA
08-09-2012, 02:11 PM
Says who? Every report I saw said not one word about Turner OR Holiday. Heck, I don't even know if Thad is on the move! It will end up being Iguodala/a pick or two.

You have to be stupid to think Iggy alone will get you Bynum.

keetyweedy
08-09-2012, 02:11 PM
I wouldn't say it's too crazy and they'd probably Pau @ C. Even though Pek had a great season last year i'd say they'd probably take Pau.
Either way, a player of Gasol's talent will always be a tradeable commodity even if the contract comes at a price.


but spending that much on Gasol would possibly hurt there chances on bringing back Rubio who as of right now is there main focus of re-signing

justinnum1
08-09-2012, 02:12 PM
Wow, just doesnt make sense for la to get rid of both bigs for dwight and harrington.

Best part about this trade is it guarantees philly a playoff spot and their first rounder to miami:)

KB24PG16
08-09-2012, 02:13 PM
Wow, just doesnt make sense for la to get rid of both bigs for dwight and harrington.

yea i hope theres more to the trade than whats already been said otherwise i cant see la doing this

D12 fan
08-09-2012, 02:15 PM
Anybody think a deal happens soon?

No,not unless LA gets more like I said add either Chandler or Gallo then you have a deal,otherwise no.

KB-Pau-DH2012
08-09-2012, 02:15 PM
Just woke up to this ****. If we lose Pau in the process.....then faaaaaack u Lakers FO! :mad:

mamba24
08-09-2012, 02:16 PM
I dont like this trade for the Lakers. You dont get rid of both bigs to get 1 and a decent bench player. Ill be sorely disappointed in the Lakers FO if this happens. 4 teams is too many teams in this deal.

I hope you dont take this like im trying to start a fight... Have you seen the Princeton Offense before? If Lakers fans thought Pau disappeared last season, wait till this season... That offense has to have a stretch 4 to work right. They have Jamison who scored 18 a game last season.

Pau definitely would not fit in the princeton offense at all... AND he is declining already...

mbsalame123
08-09-2012, 02:16 PM
there is definitely more moving pieces. adrian even said so and others are saying so too. I think the trade fits well for the lakers because they put the stretch 4 with dwight howard who he has always had. they have antawn jamison and al harrington to throw out there. I would imagine more players coming to the lakers because bynum and gasol's salaries are not equal to howard and harrington, they would need to absorb about $7-8 million more.

the nuggets would most likely get rid of wilson chandler as well since they are stacked in the backcourt and their have been rumors going on that chandler could get traded. the magic would most likely get rid of duhon and both richardson in the process as well.

I can see jason richardson heading to the lakers as well while duhon goes to the sixers and quenton richardson heads to the nuggets.

or maybe the nuggets use the trade player exception to bring in hedo turkoglu, but we will see.

at the end of the day I think all teams win but the biggest winners will be the nuggets and definetely the sixers!

smith&wesson
08-09-2012, 02:17 PM
the lakers should chill.

nash is going to make gasol and bynum look even better then they are . just stay clear of dwight mare all together

hidalgo
08-09-2012, 02:17 PM
Dwight should be watching LA's behavior very closey. how they treated SHAQ, tossin him out cause KB didn't like him, now how they wanna toss out Pau & Bynum after the titles they were major parts of, 0 loyalty whatsoever, don't think for a sec they won't pull this on Dwight in a few years once they think someone is better. think for a second Dwight. these spoiled turds care 0 about their championship HOF players, & just discard them like trash rutinely. that's you in 5 years, getting embarrassed cause they want you out & the newer cooler guy in

mamba24
08-09-2012, 02:18 PM
Princeton Offense people... 4 perimeter players, 1 big guy... Where does Pau fit in there?

majmarcus
08-09-2012, 02:18 PM
If the Lakers got philly on the line. Why arent they making a play for Evan turner???? I dont get it! Suppose...just suppose we could get Howard AND Turner somehow, right? Afterwards or somewhere in the midst of, we got at Detroit & landed Austin Daye since it wouldnt take too much to get him anyhow.
We wouldve managed an off-season of landing:
Howard, Nash, Jamison, Turner, & Daye!!!!

Are you friggin kidding me? Eff Harrington man. Go after Turner & Daye dammit!!! Long shot I know. But still...

WaltonSystem
08-09-2012, 02:19 PM
Dwight should be watching LA's behavior very closey. how they treated SHAQ, tossin him out cause KB didn't like him, now how they wanna toss out Pau & Bynum after the titles they were major parts of, 0 loyalty whatsoever, don't think for a sec they won't pull this on Dwight in a few years once they think someone is better. think for a second Dwight. these spoiled turds care 0 about their championship HOF players, & just discard them like trash rutinely. that's you in 5 years, getting embarrassed cause they want you out & the newer cooler guy in

Dude.. Be MORE bitter.

mbsalame123
08-09-2012, 02:19 PM
I hope you dont take this like im trying to start a fight... Have you seen the Princeton Offense before? If Lakers fans thought Pau disappeared last season, wait till this season... That offense has to have a stretch 4 to work right. They have Jamison who scored 18 a game last season.

Pau definitely would not fit in the princeton offense at all... AND he is declining already...


thank you man for pointing that out. that is what I was trying to say already and harrington is amazing as well. plus the trade would not workout for the lakers as well right now because they would have to take on at least one more contract from the magic or some other team so im thinking possibly jason richardson to the lakers as well.

al harrington and jamison would be amazing with howard down low and fit well and then they go out there and sign kenyon martin too. plus this saves the lakers money!

hidalgo
08-09-2012, 02:20 PM
their 2 amazing bigmen that got them to 3 straight finals aren't good enough for them. Dwight take notice dude!

jmoney85
08-09-2012, 02:20 PM
this trade doesnt make sense for 3 of the 4 teams lol

justinnum1
08-09-2012, 02:20 PM
Just woke up to this ****. If we lose Pau in the process.....then faaaaaack u Lakers FO! :mad:

They certainly giving up more than they should if this is the deal.

IMO, lakers should see how their bigs looks with nash first.

theLgndKllr35
08-09-2012, 02:21 PM
I could see Lavoy Allen/Thaddeus Young going to LA in addition to Iguodala.

bringinwood
08-09-2012, 02:22 PM
You have to be stupid to think Iggy alone will get you Bynum.

you have stupid to think that two late to first round picks are going to get to steve nash or that the unknown marc Gasol will get you pau gasol...

I have 0 doubt that if the lakers get desperate enough and moving andrew bynum for ande iguodala is the key to get into the dwight howard deal done, they will do it...

at this point all the pressure is on the lakers to get a dwight howard deal done

smith&wesson
08-09-2012, 02:22 PM
Dwight should be watching LA's behavior very closey. how they treated SHAQ, tossin him out cause KB didn't like him, now how they wanna toss out Pau & Bynum after the titles they were major parts of, 0 loyalty whatsoever, don't think for a sec they won't pull this on Dwight in a few years once they think someone is better. think for a second Dwight. these spoiled turds care 0 about their championship HOF players, & just discard them like trash rutinely. that's you in 5 years, getting embarrassed cause they want you out & the newer cooler guy in

ya like dwight holds such high standards where loyalty is concerned :laugh:

AirJordanXVIII
08-09-2012, 02:23 PM
I could see Lavoy Allen/Thaddeus Young going to LA in addition to Iguodala.

Oh yesssss. Even better baby

hidalgo
08-09-2012, 02:23 PM
Dude.. Be MORE bitter.oh i will be once he's a Laker. but the titles will be VOID yankees titles, which nobody even counts

mbsalame123
08-09-2012, 02:23 PM
jason richardson, chris duhon, and quenton richardson are most likely involved in the deal along with possibly wilson chandler

the magic would then swap pau gasol to the wolves for derrick williams and luke ridnour along with draft picks or possibly to the rockets for kevin martin, patrick patterson, marcus morris, and the toronto pick.

but either way the magic are getting lots of draft picks, a few young players and lots of cap relief.
they can build around arron afflolo, wilson chandler, and derrick williams along with glen davis and jameer nelson for now and then lots of lottery picks and andrew nicholson and kyle oquinn as well.

not bad for the magic

Hoopsadvocate
08-09-2012, 02:24 PM
Seriously what have Bynum and gasol done lately besides not get to the wcf.

You guys ***** and moan about Pau and now your think your getting robbed if I give him up and Bynum?? For the best center in the NBA and best defensive anchor. He will make u better than what u are now. Al harrington is just icing and/or to make it work.

If anything idk why Philly does it considering Bynum is just as sketchy as Howard is about extending and he doesn't exacty fit in the Philly up tempo offense and is not exactly a Doug Collins type player.

I'd think theyd deserve a little insurance or another player like gallo or Chandler.

Maybe they can add Thaddeus young to the lakers and gallo or Chandler to the sixers.

theLgndKllr35
08-09-2012, 02:25 PM
Seriously what have Bynum and gasol done lately besides not get to the wcf.

You guys ***** and moan about Pau and now your think your getting robbed if I give him up and Bynum?? For the best center in the NBA and best defensive anchor. He will make u better than what u are now. Al harrington is just icing and/or to make it work.

If anything idk why Philly does it considering Bynum is just as sketchy as Howard is about extending and he doesn't exacty fit in the Philly up tempo offense and is not exactly a Doug Collins type player.

I'd think theyd deserve a little insurance or another player like gallo or Chandler.

Maybe they can add Thaddeus young to the lakers and gallo or Chandler to the sixers.

:faint:

hidalgo
08-09-2012, 02:27 PM
jason richardson, chris duhon, and quenton richardson are most likely involved in the deal along with possibly wilson chandler

the magic would then swap pau gasol to the wolves for derrick williams and luke ridnour along with draft picks or possibly to the rockets for kevin martin, patrick patterson, marcus morris, and the toronto pick.

but either way the magic are getting lots of draft picks, a few young players and lots of cap relief.
they can build around arron afflolo, wilson chandler, and derrick williams along with glen davis and jameer nelson for now and then lots of lottery picks and andrew nicholson and kyle oquinn as well.

not bad for the magic
it's pretty bad actually, they'd still be trash, & LeBron aint letting anyone out of the east for a while anyway. orlando will just create a juggernaut in LA & still suck in 5-10 years. they're really dumb if they do this

AirJordanXVIII
08-09-2012, 02:28 PM
:faint:

:laugh:

hidalgo
08-09-2012, 02:30 PM
orlando wants picks so they can hopefully get another HOF center! then trade him to the Lakers in his prime, yay! repeat cycle. they're the Lakers farm system

theLgndKllr35
08-09-2012, 02:32 PM
:laugh:

I can't even do those deals in 2K. The computer hangs up laughing at me.

lakerboy
08-09-2012, 02:32 PM
Pau/Bynum for Dwight/Harrington? NO-F way. We are better off without him.

The salaries dont match anyway. Pau and Bynum both combine for like $28M, Dwight and Harrington won't even come close. I don't want to lose both :(

IndyHeatjman
08-09-2012, 02:32 PM
orlando doesn't have a choice, he wants out.

keetyweedy
08-09-2012, 02:33 PM
jason richardson, chris duhon, and quenton richardson are most likely involved in the deal along with possibly wilson chandler

the magic would then swap pau gasol to the wolves for derrick williams and luke ridnour along with draft picks or possibly to the rockets for kevin martin, patrick patterson, marcus morris, and the toronto pick.

but either way the magic are getting lots of draft picks, a few young players and lots of cap relief.
they can build around arron afflolo, wilson chandler, and derrick williams along with glen davis and jameer nelson for now and then lots of lottery picks and andrew nicholson and kyle oquinn as well.

not bad for the magic

I dont see this happening mainly because they already have Love who is just a younger version of Pau but just less Finesse + Pau is due like 18-19mil which is way too much for somebody of his age unless he is a top 10 player....Rockets & maybe Cleveland I can understand more

macc
08-09-2012, 02:33 PM
it's pretty bad actually, they'd still be trash, & LeBron aint letting anyone out of the east for a while anyway. orlando will just create a juggernaut in LA & still suck in 5-10 years. they're really dumb if they do this



Not really. As a Magic fan I wouldn't mind this. It's pretty much apparent whatever trade my team does, in the end they'll be pretty bad, prob contend for worst record in the league. This will be fine as long as we have some good draft pics coming our way as well as our own which will be high due to us sucking so bad, on top of that we should have cap space to sign a max contract. So this rebuild ideally could only take only 2 years if all goes well. Maybe not contend for any title in that short of a time but at least have some players to be excited about again.

hidalgo
08-09-2012, 02:33 PM
here's another HOF center LA, now now now,we gotta make sure LA wins more titles, so we need lots of draft picks to send our next HOF center there

daboywonder2002
08-09-2012, 02:33 PM
sixers- like this if they get bynum

denver- like this if they get iggy

magic- hell no. they get robbed

lakers- like dwight. but not worth giving up bynum + gasol

The goods
08-09-2012, 02:33 PM
Princeton Offense people... 4 perimeter players, 1 big guy... Where does Pau fit in there?

Oh great point I didn't even think about that.

AirJordanXVIII
08-09-2012, 02:34 PM
Pau/Bynum for Dwight/Harrington? NO-F way. We are better off without him.

The salaries dont match anyway. Pau and Bynum both combine for like $28M, Dwight and Harrington won't even come close. I don't want to lose both :(

Dwight makes 19-20 mil, and Harrington makes 6.7 mil? :shrug:

D12 fan
08-09-2012, 02:36 PM
There is a rumor going around all teams have agreed to the deal except Orlando.

IgglesFanInCO
08-09-2012, 02:37 PM
People keep mentioning Chandler as being a possible part of the trade as well, theres no way the nuggets give him up, they are helping the lakers land dwight, they better be committing highway robbery or they wont do the trade, Chandler may be traded AFTER to free up more playing time for Iggy, but dont expect them to give up afflalo, harrington, chandler AND take on a bad contract or two just to get Iggy

hidalgo
08-09-2012, 02:37 PM
Not really. As a Magic fan I wouldn't mind this. It's pretty much apparent whatever trade my team does, in the end they'll be pretty bad, prob contend for worst record in the league. This will be fine as long as we have some good draft pics coming our way as well as our own which will be high due to us sucking so bad, on top of that we should have cap space to sign a max contract. So this rebuild ideally could only take only 2 years if all goes well. Maybe not contend for any title in that short of a time but at least have some players to be excited about again.

as a Magic fan you really wanna see those turds in LA raise more banners at your expense? no pride whatsoever about Shaquille & the 09 finals? just wanna help them be unstoppble yet again with your 2nd HOF lost to the golden boys? you most not take it very personal

justinnum1
08-09-2012, 02:37 PM
There is a rumor going around all teams have agreed to the deal except Orlando.

I wonder why:rolleyes:

mbsalame123
08-09-2012, 02:37 PM
Dwight makes 19-20 mil, and Harrington makes 6.7 mil? :shrug:

there are reports saying that jason richardson would be heading to the lakers as well and kenyon martin is close to signing with the lakers and even with that, the lakers actually save some money, like $4 million.

so they trade bynum for a better center in howard. trade an old forward in pau gasol who will not fit well with nash or howard and definitely not with the new princeton offense for al harrington (another stretch 4), jason richardson (backup sg and 3 point shooter), and kenyon martin (not involved in trade but might get signed and is an amazing defender and rebounder), and salary cap.

theLgndKllr35
08-09-2012, 02:37 PM
I came up with this. Any thoughts?

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=8uydj64

keetyweedy
08-09-2012, 02:37 PM
There is a rumor going around all teams have agreed to the deal except Orlando.

:laugh2: not surprised

Deception
08-09-2012, 02:39 PM
There is a rumor going around all teams have agreed to the deal except Orlando.

Sounds about right

hidalgo
08-09-2012, 02:39 PM
Not really. As a Magic fan I wouldn't mind this. It's pretty much apparent whatever trade my team does, in the end they'll be pretty bad, prob contend for worst record in the league. This will be fine as long as we have some good draft pics coming our way as well as our own which will be high due to us sucking so bad, on top of that we should have cap space to sign a max contract. So this rebuild ideally could only take only 2 years if all goes well. Maybe not contend for any title in that short of a time but at least have some players to be excited about again.

as a Magic fan you really wanna see those turds in LA raise more banners at your expense? no pride whatsoever about Shaquille & the 09 finals? just wanna help them be unstoppble yet again with your 2nd HOF lost to the golden boys, splashing champagne on KB basically laughing at you for being total suckers making them invincible? you most not take it very personal

IndyHeatjman
08-09-2012, 02:39 PM
sixers- like this if they get bynum

denver- like this if they get iggy

magic- hell no. they get robbed

lakers- like dwight. but not worth giving up bynum + gasol

Lets not forget the lakers have Antawn Jamison too. So getting Al harrington and Howard could work out better than having Bynum+Gasol. It gives jamison more minutes and he put up 17ppg and 6rpg last year.

PraiseJesus
08-09-2012, 02:39 PM
This wont happen

keetyweedy
08-09-2012, 02:40 PM
I came up with this. Any thoughts?

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=8uydj64

LA dont have the cap to take young & J. Rich + I doubt philly will get rid of young

StinkEye
08-09-2012, 02:40 PM
Al Harrington is pooh.

theLgndKllr35
08-09-2012, 02:41 PM
LA dont have the cap to take young & J. Rich + I doubt philly will get rid of young

It works with and without Young, so it's up to LA whether or not they want him.

majmarcus
08-09-2012, 02:42 PM
This wont happen
Loool...the bottom line basically

DeyAce
08-09-2012, 02:42 PM
magic get raped in that deal

SYCE
08-09-2012, 02:43 PM
You have to be stupid to think Iggy alone will get you Bynum.

Stupid? Please show me the report that says Turner or Holiday is heading out of town. I'll wait...

JIDsanity
08-09-2012, 02:43 PM
Wait, what? lol. If Orlando does this...

mbsalame123
08-09-2012, 02:44 PM
I came up with this. Any thoughts?

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=8uydj64

this is not bad but i dont think thadeus young will be involved. the reason the sixers are trading igoudala is to open up playing room for young at the small forward spot. but I think vucevic moves in the deal beause he is no longer needed and wont fit with moultrie, brown, and allen backing up bynum and hawes.

I think your trade is about right but take out thadeus young, possibly corey brewer heads to the lakers instead of thadeus young and possibly wilson chandler heads to the magic or the nuggets take on quenton richardson and chris duhon heads to the sixers.

here is my trade:

magic get: pau gasol, arron afflolo, nikola vucevic, wilson chandler and several draft picks

lakers get: dwight howard, jason richardson, and al harrington

sixers get: andrew bynum and chris duhon

nuggets get: andre igoudala and quenton richardson

this is not bad for the lakers and magic and is amazing for the sixers and pretty good for the sixers. you are giving up chandler and afflolo for igoudala.... not bad!

WickedBadMan
08-09-2012, 02:44 PM
Why would the Magic do this - the potential to ruin the inevitable top lottery pick by adding Gasol? I don't know if they watched Cleveland, but you really need to suck it up and tank for a year or two and things can turn around quickly with the right player.

JIDsanity
08-09-2012, 02:44 PM
magic get raped in that deal

Agreed. This doesn't make any sense for them.

SirSkyHook
08-09-2012, 02:44 PM
Dwight should be watching LA's behavior very closey. how they treated SHAQ, tossin him out cause KB didn't like him, now how they wanna toss out Pau & Bynum after the titles they were major parts of, 0 loyalty whatsoever, don't think for a sec they won't pull this on Dwight in a few years once they think someone is better. think for a second Dwight. these spoiled turds care 0 about their championship HOF players, & just discard them like trash rutinely. that's you in 5 years, getting embarrassed cause they want you out & the newer cooler guy in

Shaq - came in too fat and took games off like 15-20 a season, than in the middle of a game fronted out front office saying pay me

Bynum- is lazy as hell and has the mentality of a teenage drama queen. You can say Howard does to, but ive never seen him bs on the court where it matters.

Pau- as much as I love him has mentally checked out of two post seasons

If Kobe displayed any of the before mentioned additudes the front office would have their foot placed on his *** to, like when he said trade me they said ok if we can get a decent return, lol

Dwight should see the being unprofessional gets you traded. Lakers wont hold him hostage like orlando or begg him to stay either.

keetyweedy
08-09-2012, 02:46 PM
It works with and without Young, so it's up to LA whether or not they want him.

but philly isnt letting Young go, thats why theyre shopping iggy so he can get more PT

theLgndKllr35
08-09-2012, 02:46 PM
Shaq - came in too fat and took games off like 15-20 a season, than in the middle of a game fronted out front office saying pay me

Bynum- is lazy as hell and has the mentality of a teenage drama queen. You can say Howard does to, but ive never seen him bs on the court where it matters.

Pau- as much as I love him has mentally checked out of two post seasons

If Kobe displayed any of the before mentioned additudes the front office would have their foot placed on his *** to, like when he said trade me they said ok if we can get a decent return, lol

Dwight should see the being unprofessional gets you traded. Lakers wont hold him hostage like orlando or begg him to stay either.

Being a Sixers fan, we haven't had anyone with that kind of talent or mentality since Iverson.

keetyweedy
08-09-2012, 02:47 PM
this is not bad but i dont think thadeus young will be involved. the reason the sixers are trading igoudala is to open up playing room for young at the small forward spot. but I think vucevic moves in the deal beause he is no longer needed and wont fit with moultrie, brown, and allen backing up bynum and hawes.

I think your trade is about right but take out thadeus young, possibly corey brewer heads to the lakers instead of thadeus young and possibly wilson chandler heads to the magic or the nuggets take on quenton richardson and chris duhon heads to the sixers.

here is my trade:

magic get: pau gasol, arron afflolo, nikola vucevic, wilson chandler and several draft picks

lakers get: dwight howard, jason richardson, and al harrington

sixers get: andrew bynum and chris duhon

nuggets get: andre igoudala and quenton richardson

this is not bad for the lakers and magic and is amazing for the sixers and pretty good for the sixers. you are giving up chandler and afflolo for igoudala.... not bad!


this x10

mamba24
08-09-2012, 02:49 PM
thank you man for pointing that out. that is what I was trying to say already and harrington is amazing as well. plus the trade would not workout for the lakers as well right now because they would have to take on at least one more contract from the magic or some other team so im thinking possibly jason richardson to the lakers as well.

al harrington and jamison would be amazing with howard down low and fit well and then they go out there and sign kenyon martin too. plus this saves the lakers money!

Im glad I'm not the only one not freakin out about this... this would be good for the lakers. More shooters and saving money while getting rid of Pau who is on the decline. There would definitely be another piece in the mix too... richardson would be great.

nate2usmc
08-09-2012, 02:50 PM
Magic shoulda just taken Houston's offer but they're actually engaged in this deal? :confused:

NYtilIdie
08-09-2012, 02:50 PM
Lol at people who think the Lakers are in charge here. They get whatever it takes to get Howard, they're in no way, shape or form in charge of this deal. So stop with the "Philly needs to throw in X player for this deal to happen" yes, I'm talking to you BandwagonFan12

Evolution23
08-09-2012, 02:50 PM
Please just get it over with already!!!!!

hidalgo
08-09-2012, 02:50 PM
Why would the Magic do this - the potential to ruin the inevitable top lottery pick by adding Gasol? I don't know if they watched Cleveland, but you really need to suck it up and tank for a year or two and things can turn around quickly with the right player.true, if tgey get Gasol he'll get them good enough to easily miss the lottery pick, maybe even 6th seed. he carried some weak memphis rosters to 3 straight playoffs. he's no slouch. they'd be irrelevant, & get 2 good years from him, & miss the lottery pick, lol

why they don't tell the Lakers to go F themselves, i have no idea

keetyweedy
08-09-2012, 02:51 PM
If you think about it Denver is really getting rapped Losing Harrington, Afflalo & most likely chandler for Iggy lol does george karl have any say in this

MagicBucsSox
08-09-2012, 02:53 PM
This is terrible. Atleast get turner or young back

IgglesFanInCO
08-09-2012, 02:53 PM
If you think about it Denver is really getting rapped Losing Harrington, Afflalo & most likely chandler for Iggy lol does george karl have any say in this

like i have said already, they arent giving up chandler, its not happening, people need to stop with that, its not rumored, it doesnt make sense for them, it is a ******** notion

29$JerZ
08-09-2012, 02:54 PM
Orlando should be recieving multiple picks.
Not sure why'd they want Affalo. I'd assume Gallo or even Faried would be someone they would demand.

justinnum1
08-09-2012, 02:55 PM
Orlando should be recieving multiple picks.
Not sure why'd they want Affalo. I'd assume Gallo or even Faried would be someone they would demand.

Why would denver give up faried for iggy? Thats ********.

jetsfan28
08-09-2012, 02:56 PM
I feel like I'm crazy, but unless he signs an extension there's no way I remotely consider trading Iggy, another legit player (Thad?), and picks for Bynum.

justinnum1
08-09-2012, 02:58 PM
Who is the lakers backup center if this goes down? howard/jamison/hill is not a lot of depth.

2-ONE-5
08-09-2012, 02:58 PM
but philly isnt letting Young go, thats why theyre shopping iggy so he can get more PT

thats not true. Thad plays the 4 and has for a few years now. If this AWESOME deal goes down Wright most likely starts with Harkless backing him up.

DeyAce
08-09-2012, 02:59 PM
Bynum for Iggy is a fair trade. But not Howard for Gasol. Howard is on superstar level. Gasols value is similar to Luol Deng.

IndyHeatjman
08-09-2012, 02:59 PM
If you think about it Denver is really getting rapped Losing Harrington, Afflalo & most likely chandler for Iggy lol does george karl have any say in this

They will most likely get more than just Iggy in return. Is he a harrington and affalo better than chandler...no. But Lawson, Iggy, and Mcgee...not a bad young 3.

Losoway
08-09-2012, 02:59 PM
i doubt the lakers are willing to wait till next year for him to be ready to play