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FWBrodie
08-06-2012, 02:09 PM
Game is Saturday at 7pm Pacific in Seattle. It's finally here.







(House, feel free to lock or merge this if you decide to make a gamethread.)

NateyB24
08-06-2012, 02:59 PM
Bruuuuuuce!!!! Turbin would have been my 2nd choice.

Lol just realized you can vote for all 5 haha.

ztilzer31
08-06-2012, 03:23 PM
I wanna see them QB's. Be interesting to see where there at. First game of preseason so expect some ugly offense.

FWBrodie
08-06-2012, 03:54 PM
Should also be fun to see Matt and Jake on the other side.

kyuss275
08-06-2012, 04:19 PM
Can't wait to see everyone on that list. Also want to see Wagner.

Burleson81
08-06-2012, 06:08 PM
Golden Tate!! Pre-season games is when he is at his best! :D

alexander_37
08-06-2012, 06:27 PM
I wana see Flynn and/or Wilson slinging it with reckless abandon.

Baller1
08-06-2012, 06:31 PM
Ready to see the QB's in action.

bruser23
08-06-2012, 07:36 PM
My eyes will be focused on the QBs. I think Jackson will get the start, he started out of rotation on Sunday( it was Flynns turn with the first string.) excited to see how things shake down in the coming days.

NateyB24
08-06-2012, 08:40 PM
I think we will get more of an idea tomorrow but yea i think Jackson has more of a shot then some people think.

Vinny642
08-06-2012, 09:57 PM
I wanna see QBs

ChosenReject
08-07-2012, 01:10 AM
Finally, it's football season!

Baller1
08-07-2012, 03:18 AM
With TO being signed, I change my mind. I'm most excited to see TO, Edwards, and Rice.

Seattle4Ever
08-07-2012, 01:56 PM
With TO being signed, I change my mind. I'm most excited to see TO, Edwards, and Rice.

Those two words sum it up perfectly for me. Flat out.

FWBrodie
08-07-2012, 04:04 PM
I'm excited to see the upgraded pass rush, to find out if Turbin could carry the team if Lynch misses time, to see the WR's (all of them), and of course to watch the QB battle.

Sid Rice doesn't look likely to play.

NateyB24
08-07-2012, 04:15 PM
Just heard on KJR that Matt Flynn will play the whole 1st half on Saturday from what Pete Caroll said.

NateyB24
08-07-2012, 04:31 PM
#Seahawks coach Pete Carroll says Matt Flynn will start Saturday vs. Tennessee.

https://twitter.com/dannyoneil/status/232931192943550464


Tarvaris Jackson's practice time to be dialed back beginning Wednesday with #Seahawks.

https://twitter.com/dannyoneil/status/232931991882969088

ccg34
08-07-2012, 04:39 PM
:dance: I hope Wilson comes out and lights it up, then we could cut T Jack or trade him.

ztilzer31
08-07-2012, 04:43 PM
Matt Flynn has been named the starting QB for the first week of preseason. T.O. will be practicing on Wednesday, but won't play in the first game against the Titans.

Not surprised at all. Starting Wilson is risky, and Jackson isn't a starter IMO.

FWBrodie
08-08-2012, 02:16 AM
Wilson gets the whole second half.

Whelp, hope one of them seizes the job.

Seattle4Ever
08-08-2012, 03:26 AM
Trade T-Jack. I want Portis on this team. We need to do something with him ASAP.

Spartan8585
08-08-2012, 05:12 PM
Trade Tjack to Miami for a 4th round pick?? Feasible?

NateyB24
08-08-2012, 06:08 PM
Trade Tjack to Miami for a 4th round pick?? Feasible?

Not laughing at you but the thought of getting a 4th round pick is what's funny :laugh:

At most we get a 7th round pick most likely cut.

House
08-08-2012, 06:42 PM
There are a few teams I could see Jackson going to. I think the best we'd get is a 6th rd pick. We make great picks in later rds and anything is better than Jackson in a Hawks uniform this year

ztilzer31
08-08-2012, 07:44 PM
I wish him well though. I earned nothing but respect. We ain't getting no 4th round pick though. 6 might even be pushing it. He'll get cut before any of that IMO.

House
08-08-2012, 09:47 PM
I wish him well though. I earned nothing but respect. We ain't getting no 4th round pick though. 6 might even be pushing it. He'll get cut before any of that IMO.

Yeah... I don't hate the dude or anything, just think we can/have better.

You're right... 6 might be pushing it! lol

kyuss275
08-08-2012, 11:13 PM
With all the coverage on the 3 way QB battle, not much is said about our 4th QB. Anybody know how Portis is doing?

House
08-08-2012, 11:18 PM
With all the coverage on the 3 way QB battle, not much is said about our 4th QB. Anybody know how Portis is doing?

I have literally heard NOTHING on him. I've seen him in the videos throwing practice reps, but that's it

NateyB24
08-08-2012, 11:26 PM
Portis will probably be either on PS or our 3rd stringer wouldn't surprise me if we try to get him on PS though because i could see a scenario where we bring T-Jack back at a reduced rate to be a backup like at 1M.

House
08-08-2012, 11:27 PM
Portis will probably be either on PS or our 3rd stringer wouldn't surprise me if we try to get him on PS though because i could see a scenario where we bring T-Jack back at a reduced rate to be a backup like at 1M.

A pay reduction that big would be the only way I see him coming back

ztilzer31
08-09-2012, 12:03 AM
Yeah... I don't hate the dude or anything, just think we can/have better.

You're right... 6 might be pushing it! lol

You never know though. All it takes is one ridiculous injury at the beginning of the preseason, and maybe we can get something out of it. If Carson Palmer can be traded for 2 firsts, anything can happen.

Spartan8585
08-09-2012, 07:18 PM
I hope this team comes out firing on all cylinders!

Spartan8585
08-09-2012, 07:19 PM
How awesome would it be if both Lynch and Turbin both rushed for over a thousand yards each?

NateyB24
08-09-2012, 10:36 PM
Don't know if any of you guys were watching the live look in's of the PreSeason games on NFL Network but it sure sounded like Lombardi and Marshall Faulk were hating on our offense saying we signed Owens because of the rest of our receivers were question marks.

mikebrez bears/
08-10-2012, 01:14 AM
^^ I'm tired of hearing analyst say that crap. With the veteran WR corp you have now, I think it will help your young QBs and get off to a faster start than with younger WRs. I can't wait for you all to blow it up and shut up these announcers and everyone giving the division to the 49ers already.

Boozerguy47
08-10-2012, 01:18 AM
Gah... I had two offers for free tickets and had to turn both down. Saturday night I'll be busy at the sister's engagement party drinking and missing the game! I can't even record it considering I don't get NFL Network. Stupid NFL Network.

FWBrodie
08-10-2012, 09:59 AM
Man, when it comes to preseason, I have to be on the couch. Being at the game is too confusing with all the new numbers and substitutions and I feel like I'm missing too many details. I turned down some tickets too.

ztilzer31
08-10-2012, 11:22 AM
Don't know if any of you guys were watching the live look in's of the PreSeason games on NFL Network but it sure sounded like Lombardi and Marshall Faulk were hating on our offense saying we signed Owens because of the rest of our receivers were question marks.

Marshall Faulk absolutely hates the Seahawks. He also said that our secondary was too young, and didn't have enough talent last year.

I believe he's friends with Reggie Bush, and doesn't like Pete Carroll at all either. He basically blamed Pete for everything that happened at USC which is ridiculous.

Jepetto1872
08-10-2012, 01:10 PM
Boozer, you should be able to record it still. It is going to be on Fox as well I think. Of course, I could be wrong.

NateyB24
08-10-2012, 02:30 PM
Boozer i am assuming you live in Seattle according to your location it's on Fox for the locals NFL Network is blacked out you can record it.

Spartan8585
08-10-2012, 02:35 PM
Man Turbin is turning into an awesome pick!

shen
08-10-2012, 03:45 PM
I despise Skipp Bayless but he won some points with me yesterday when he said he thinks Seattle wins NFC West and surprises everyone.

Faulk despises Seattle, he is one player that took Rams V. Seahawks rivalry seriously. I hate him too so it's all good.

ztilzer31
08-10-2012, 04:05 PM
I have a love/hate thing with Skip. I started hating him, but then he tells everyone that Big Ben was handed 2 Super Bowls and shouldn't have any. Then I can't help, but smile....

Skip has the unique ability to say the dumbest/smartest things possible.

NateyB24
08-10-2012, 06:01 PM
I love Skip Bayless i find him pretty funny don't know why he is hated on he does a good job of trolling fans and it's funny at the responses.

I do believe him when he said stuff about the Seahawks because he brought up pretty good points.

Seattle4Ever
08-10-2012, 06:18 PM
I despise Skipp Bayless but he won some points with me yesterday when he said he thinks Seattle wins NFC West and surprises everyone.

Faulk despises Seattle, he is one player that took Rams V. Seahawks rivalry seriously. I hate him too so it's all good.

Skip only said the we'll win the NFC West because he always goes with the shocking pick. Usually I'd be happy about it, but Skip is just a ****er. I won't be biased.

NateyB24
08-10-2012, 08:36 PM
Nah he actually had good reasoning's for us to win the NFC West but he usually does go with the opposite but that's because it would be boring TV if everyone went for the same thing.

shen
08-11-2012, 01:59 AM
Less then 24 hours till start of Seahawks preseason!

NateyB24
08-11-2012, 02:22 AM
Can't wait to watch Irvin get off that edge!

Vinny642
08-11-2012, 07:17 AM
Should be good

furmat60
08-11-2012, 07:46 PM
2 hours and 15 minutes! I'm so excited to see Flynn and Wilson!

shen
08-11-2012, 10:05 PM
Gotta wait for Panthers Texans to finish, even though Texans clearly got it wrapped up with 1:51 left.

shen
08-11-2012, 10:07 PM
First play of preseason Browner gets pick six!

shen
08-11-2012, 10:08 PM
Damn NFL Network making me watch Clausens last 1:45 of beat down from Texans before get to watch Seahawks, BS.

ElFuturoDeESPN
08-11-2012, 10:09 PM
HOLY ****! The most incredible play I've ever seen! ON THE FIRST PLAY! WOWWWWW!


BROWNERRRRRRRRRRRRR! What a monster!

Spartan8585
08-11-2012, 10:10 PM
Haha first play of the game and browner picks Matt off for a TD

shen
08-11-2012, 10:10 PM
Every play is being reviewed last 3 plays for Texans Panthers, really pissing me off since Panthers are already beaten.

Baller1
08-11-2012, 10:12 PM
Brownerrrrrrrr! Hell ****ing yes.

Spartan8585
08-11-2012, 10:14 PM
Wtf its got the 49ers coverage.....

shen
08-11-2012, 10:17 PM
Our pass rush has been amazing so far.

shen
08-11-2012, 10:19 PM
I despise NFL Network, dam tech dificulties.

Chacarron
08-11-2012, 10:20 PM
WTF man.

Chacarron
08-11-2012, 10:20 PM
Finally.

Spartan8585
08-11-2012, 10:20 PM
Anyone else getting the miners replay instead of the hawks game?

shen
08-11-2012, 10:20 PM
Looks like Robinson has improved his blocking.

shen
08-11-2012, 10:25 PM
Butler a couple early targets. Flynn making progressions fast and efficient. We have had several first downs.

Vinny642
08-11-2012, 10:25 PM
I need a napkin to wipe my precum off

shen
08-11-2012, 10:25 PM
Man our run game is deadly and our pass game is looking efficient.

shen
08-11-2012, 10:26 PM
I already liked the uni's but watching um ingame they look even better.

shen
08-11-2012, 10:27 PM
Another first down.

Flynn is 6/6 and our run game is averaging near 7 yards a carry.

Vinny642
08-11-2012, 10:28 PM
He got sacked :(((( Lets tank

jej
08-11-2012, 10:29 PM
Flynn is doing solid so far, he is just painfully slow. He even takes a while to hand the ball off.

shen
08-11-2012, 10:30 PM
We up 10-0. Even though it stalled out at the end I really liked that drive. It started on our 14 and we just moved the ball beautifully.

shen
08-11-2012, 10:31 PM
We had 5 first downs on opening drive. We had games last year we took entire half to get 5 first downs.

NateyB24
08-11-2012, 10:34 PM
Hard to judge Flynn even if he did bad this game missing most of the 1st string players love what i see so far though.

shen
08-11-2012, 10:35 PM
Kam and Browner picking up right where they left off.

Vinny642
08-11-2012, 10:36 PM
Love our stadium

shen
08-11-2012, 10:36 PM
Man Century link getting lowed. I don't think he got that time out in time but refs being kind to Titans.

NateyB24
08-11-2012, 10:36 PM
Kam got out ran by that TE dang.

NateyB24
08-11-2012, 10:37 PM
Welcome back to Clink Hasselbeck lol.

shen
08-11-2012, 10:44 PM
Sherman with a pick!

Our secondary is picking up RIGHT where they left off.

Vinny642
08-11-2012, 10:45 PM
Beast mode

jej
08-11-2012, 10:45 PM
Best secondary in the league??

furmat60
08-11-2012, 10:45 PM
Sherman is a freak! Man, we look good! Flynn has a good release time, but he doesn't look very athletic. Definitely a pocket QB. I can't wait to see Wilson, and Leon is looking good!

furmat60
08-11-2012, 10:46 PM
Best secondary in the league??

Damn straight it is!

Chacarron
08-11-2012, 10:47 PM
Our defense is so sick.

shen
08-11-2012, 10:48 PM
Best secondary in the league??

Yes.

furmat60
08-11-2012, 10:48 PM
Flynn with a helluva throw to Miller! They both got rocked and got right back up!

shen
08-11-2012, 10:48 PM
Miller!

Our TE's get to catch the ball this year!

furmat60
08-11-2012, 10:49 PM
That one wasn't so good lol.

shen
08-11-2012, 10:49 PM
Second he went to throw I knew that was a pick, how did he not see it?

shen
08-11-2012, 10:51 PM
That pick was on Flynn, poor decision. Think he was locked onto receiver that time because was obvious it would be a pick (batted down at best case) yet he still threw it.

shen
08-11-2012, 10:52 PM
He is 8/9 and his only in-completion is a INT. That's still good.

shen
08-11-2012, 10:53 PM
Run D is fracking amazing.

shen
08-11-2012, 10:53 PM
We did not fall for the fake. Huge loss. Man our D is easily top 5!

shen
08-11-2012, 10:54 PM
Hope that 49er fan from that blog is watching. This what we gonna do to them.

shen
08-11-2012, 10:55 PM
Flynn gonna play another possession.

shen
08-11-2012, 10:56 PM
Titans have 7 runs for 1 yard.
We have 8 runs for 41 yards.

Titans 5/10 45 yards 2 picks.
We are 8/9 45 yards 1 pick.

Titans have 0 points.
We have 10 points.

shen
08-11-2012, 10:58 PM
Flynn being patient and Turbin bringing in pass for 1st.

Chacarron
08-11-2012, 10:59 PM
I want to see Flynn throw a long bomb.

shen
08-11-2012, 10:59 PM
Bad snap way to high and through his hands.

shen
08-11-2012, 11:01 PM
Flynn is 11/12 but his longest pass was 14 yards.

shen
08-11-2012, 11:01 PM
We know Flynn is efficient, now lets see Wilson.

shen
08-11-2012, 11:09 PM
Why is Flynn still in, get Wilson.

shen
08-11-2012, 11:09 PM
Turbin!

10 yard pickup!

shen
08-11-2012, 11:10 PM
Can we cut McCoy yet?

Seattle4Ever
08-11-2012, 11:20 PM
I really like Mike Morgan and Phillip Adams.

Spartan8585
08-11-2012, 11:23 PM
Defense is stellar, turbin is awesome

Spartan8585
08-11-2012, 11:24 PM
One more chance for Flynn with 31 seconds left in the 1st

DuckHawk
08-11-2012, 11:36 PM
Is there anyone who talks more trash about the Seahawks the Colin Cowherd? The guy hates the Seahawks and Pete Carroll. I get so sick of him dogging them. He does it just out of the blue all the time like he just has some affliction with hating them. Maybe he just doesn't want to be known as a homer since he's from Seattle.

shen
08-11-2012, 11:40 PM
Wilson finally getting his debut!

shen
08-11-2012, 11:41 PM
Is there something wrong with our straps because 5 or 6 times a helmet has gone flying.

shen
08-11-2012, 11:41 PM
Wilson is fast. That would have been a sack for Flynn.

shen
08-11-2012, 11:42 PM
McCoy actually held on for a completion!

shen
08-11-2012, 11:43 PM
****ing hell the velocity on that pass. Wilson looks damn good.

jej
08-11-2012, 11:43 PM
Wilson is crazy athletic. Flynn woulda been on his ***

shen
08-11-2012, 11:44 PM
2/2 for 20 yards.

shen
08-11-2012, 11:44 PM
He hits Braylon deep for the td!

We have our future QB!

shen
08-11-2012, 11:45 PM
3/3 59 yards and a TD!

shen
08-11-2012, 11:45 PM
He has better mobility, better velocity, better pocket awareness.

furmat60
08-11-2012, 11:46 PM
God damn Wilson! Braylon Edwards!

I am SO EXCITED for this season! Wilson is so athletic!

shen
08-11-2012, 11:47 PM
I hope Wilson starts the next preseason game so can see him with starters.

shen
08-11-2012, 11:47 PM
Edwards hanging out with Browner and Sherman on sideline. Like that, pick each others brains and make each other better.

Spartan8585
08-11-2012, 11:48 PM
I'm on the Wilson bandwagon!

jej
08-11-2012, 11:49 PM
Wilson is so good. If he was 3 inches taller, he woulda been the top QB in the draft. Great catch by Braylon too

Spartan8585
08-11-2012, 11:55 PM
Honestly I like that he's short. He's very quick in the pocket.

jej
08-11-2012, 11:58 PM
As long as he can see, Im fine. Only thing it might hurt is routes across the middle. Could see a few LB picks/DL deflections.

Seattle4Ever
08-11-2012, 11:58 PM
Wilson's success so far is exciting, but be aware this IS the second half and there are second and third stringers in.

shen
08-12-2012, 12:01 AM
Wilson seems to have a connection with Braylon.

shen
08-12-2012, 12:02 AM
Wilson turns another would be Flynn sack into a gain.

jej
08-12-2012, 12:03 AM
He is so athletic.

Reynald is nuts.

shen
08-12-2012, 12:03 AM
ST's not doing a great job, with returns or coverage.

jej
08-12-2012, 12:10 AM
Is Ricardo lockette going to make the team? Havent heard too much about him, other than he has some talent.

shen
08-12-2012, 12:13 AM
Holy **** he can run!

furmat60
08-12-2012, 12:15 AM
Holy **** he can run!

**** yeah he can! I forgot what it was like to have such a mobile QB that makes smart decisions!

Route 36 West
08-12-2012, 12:15 AM
Very impressive from Wilson so far. Love the speed with which he plays the game.

jej
08-12-2012, 12:33 AM
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1235243-seattle-seahawks-bruce-irvin-off-to-bad-start-mistakes-seahawks-for-redskins

didnt know where to post this, but he called us the ****ing Skins

ccg34
08-12-2012, 12:35 AM
As soon as I turned on the game Wilson throws a pick.

ChitownBears22
08-12-2012, 12:40 AM
Was it a bad throw by Wilson?

Spartan8585
08-12-2012, 12:54 AM
He got a little anxious on the pick, rookie mistake he's still don't good!!

Seattle4Ever
08-12-2012, 12:56 AM
It was just a mistake. Doubt he does something like that again. It looked like his brain told him to do it but his body didn't want to.

Spartan8585
08-12-2012, 12:57 AM
Wilson gives me a hard on

Seattle4Ever
08-12-2012, 12:59 AM
I want to see Wilson start, because I don't know if his play right now is a fluke.

I think either way, we're in good hands with Flynn and Wilson.

EDIT: That's Allstate's stand.

ElFuturoDeESPN
08-12-2012, 12:59 AM
Aside from that one bad pass Russell was absolutely incredible tonight.

Spartan8585
08-12-2012, 01:00 AM
Let Wilson start!

Spartan8585
08-12-2012, 01:03 AM
Tonights a good night! M's win and hawks win.

Vinny642
08-12-2012, 01:15 AM
Uhhhh ohhhh, Wilson did amazing!

NateyB24
08-12-2012, 01:37 AM
That run by Wilson had the whole Titans defense fooled :laugh: not going to over blow this though until he goes against 1's but he was definitely impressive.

Qwertys
08-12-2012, 01:48 AM
You guys are really lucky to have Russell Wilson playing for you.

NateyB24
08-12-2012, 02:07 AM
You guys are really lucky to have Russell Wilson playing for you.

Yea, I would like to see Caroll start Wilson against the ones next week i think Flynn is capable of Quarterbacking this team but Wilson is so exciting to watch.

kalel
08-12-2012, 02:16 AM
I'm excited with the qb play, i think between flynn or wilson one will come out as the franchise qb.

Now this is looking far ahead but i really think in next years draft we need to go after a true number one wr, rice really is a number two and even if you think he is a one the dude just cant stay healthy.

NateyB24
08-12-2012, 02:38 AM
I'm excited with the qb play, i think between flynn or wilson one will come out as the franchise qb.

Now this is looking far ahead but i really think in next years draft we need to go after a true number one wr, rice really is a number two and even if you think he is a one the dude just cant stay healthy.

Were going to have to agree to disagree here i agree with you that he can't stay healthy which is why we should look into drafting a WR however when healthy Rice is a legit #1 receiver.

Vinny642
08-12-2012, 02:54 AM
I cannot wait to these QBs go at it

Blazers#1Fan
08-12-2012, 03:17 AM
Damn Im a bigger Fan of Wilson(i had RW's wife as my sig pic for awhile) now i wanted flynn to win the job but now i want Wilson To Win hope he start's next game that guys like a Fast Drew Brees i hate to do the comparison everybodys done but his throwing was done so easy

he thru that TD and Ran that TD effortlessly he's gonna be are QBOTF that Braylon Edwards Pass was nice and i like when the pocket closed he ran out and found his guy or threw it away unlike how Hasselback use to hold the ball to longand the pocket would collapse and he'd get sacked(Hassel,TJAX) But are D is easily top 3 this year they could stop the first Unit

Browner and Earl thomas pick was crazy then shermans nice pick man we gonna be good this year

Tjax is gonna be 3rd string the QB comp in my eyes is Wilson Vs Flynn and after that game Wilson's winning but flynn was good too

ztilzer31
08-12-2012, 03:19 AM
I was at the game, and one things for certain. Russell Wilson is a very special player that needs more reps and to learn the offense. It might of just been first game jitters but he was very obvious on the play action. He was extremely bad at selling the play action. He ran way too hard getting out of the pocket for passes and slowed down during runs. Very common college mistake, but like I said it might of been him being a little nervous.

As for Matt Flynn he's flawless at the play action, but didn't seem to go down field at all. Might of had something to do with Rice not being in, and having really no deep threat at all on offense. He definitely looked like he knew exactly how to run the offense.

The secondary looked better. It doesn't make sense. I definitely needed a reminder that Marcus Trufant is our nickle corner now. He's still pretty damn good, and Sherman, and Browner looked unstoppable. Even better than last year.

Turbin needs to remember to keep his pads low, but he looked really good. It might of been Flynn's fault for giving the ball to high but there were 2 or 3 plays where he came through the hole high.

Didn't pay attention enough to the linebacker core.

Run defense looked even better. Jason Jones looked very diverse out there. He shocked me at how big he is. I always kind of looked at him as a pure rusher, but he looked like an athletic freak out there. Bruce Irvin looked to get manhandled a lot of the game, but I really didn't pay attention enough to him. His speed looked fine, but he doesn't have power to cross over the lineman to go inside after the lineman initially stops him. I don't know anything about the left tackle of the Titans, but he completely dominated Bruce it seemed.

Great game to watch. Defense is amazing. I love the Seahawks.

Seattle4Ever
08-12-2012, 03:38 AM
I'm excited with the qb play, i think between flynn or wilson one will come out as the franchise qb.

Now this is looking far ahead but i really think in next years draft we need to go after a true number one wr, rice really is a number two and even if you think he is a one the dude just cant stay healthy.

Are you kidding me? Of course Rice is a #1. When he was healthy, he was amazing last season.

NateyB24
08-12-2012, 11:06 AM
There was only one injury last night Zach Miller concussion i wonder if this is going to be an on going problem with him he has already had 2 before this and once you have a concussion your prone to having more it's like a high ankle sprain.

Speaking of which Okung didn't get injured happy to see that.

drew_ellis_23
08-12-2012, 12:18 PM
Great game. Both QB's were great for their first action. Jacksons days are numbered. Doubt we keep him on as a 3rd string. Edwards had a nice TD grab. Run game was solid. Only preseason so hard to evaluate but overall I was pleased.

NateyB24
08-12-2012, 01:18 PM
Great game. Both QB's were great for their first action. Jacksons days are numbered. Doubt we keep him on as a 3rd string. Edwards had a nice TD grab. Run game was solid. Only preseason so hard to evaluate but overall I was pleased.

Yea, The 3rd one is the one that is easier to evaluate because the starters go deep into the game.

ccg34
08-12-2012, 01:36 PM
Do you guys think T Jack will play next game? If Pete is true to his word about the three way competition, I would assume T Jack will get to start at least one game.

Watching over the highlights, Flynn looks like he is a game manager and Wilson is a playmaker. I love what I saw from Wilson. I think he will be our qbotf starting from this year or next. Flynn looks like Hasselbeck. He knows what he is doing. He is good not great.

drew_ellis_23
08-12-2012, 02:34 PM
Small sample size on both, so hard to make that call ccg34. Wilson I think could be the future but he will be backing up Flynn while Flyn is under contract. Flynn is more game ready. Wilson was out there against second stringers and was a little wild. He didnt make any huge mistakes and he had a good game, but against a Titans defense of all starters come mid season it might have been a different story. Lets see where he is at in 3 weeks. But I think and always thought it was Flynns job to lose. And as Pete said, we know what we have in Jackson. No reason to start him.

Seattle4Ever
08-12-2012, 02:34 PM
I think we saw from Flynn what we saw from that video on YouTube where he played the whole game. Lots of checkdowns, nothing too risky, and short/quick precise throws.

Seeing Edwards go up and get that ball has me really excited about him now. I can't wait to see TO get on the field too.

shen
08-12-2012, 02:36 PM
Flynn did not go deep because he can't. Coaches know this and called the right plays, would have had a few more points if not for a couple drops and a bad interception when Flynn was in. Still 11/13 is beautiful, Rice catches some those passes and Flynn gonna get a lot more then 70 yards.

Wilson is definitely our QBOTF. Almost felt bad for Portis once when camera showed Flynn and Wilson talking with Pete and Portis kept trying to get close to listen and they all shifted pushing him away.

Seattle4Ever
08-12-2012, 03:10 PM
Flynn did not go deep because he can't. Coaches know this and called the right plays, would have had a few more points if not for a couple drops and a bad interception when Flynn was in. Still 11/13 is beautiful, Rice catches some those passes and Flynn gonna get a lot more then 70 yards.

Wilson is definitely our QBOTF. Almost felt bad for Portis once when camera showed Flynn and Wilson talking with Pete and Portis kept trying to get close to listen and they all shifted pushing him away.

Oh I missed that :(

I heard the Seahawks are really, really, really high on Portis actually.

kyuss275
08-12-2012, 04:19 PM
Do you guys think T Jack will play next game? If Pete is true to his word about the three way competition, I would assume T Jack will get to start at least one game.

Watching over the highlights, Flynn looks like he is a game manager and Wilson is a playmaker. I love what I saw from Wilson. I think he will be our qbotf starting from this year or next. Flynn looks like Hasselbeck. He knows what he is doing. He is good not great.


Before last nights game i thought it would be T-Jack and Portis for next game. I am not sure now. FLynn and Wilson looked good, but they both need reps with the 1st and 2nd units. If T-Jack starts it takes away a weeks worth of practice and reps with the 1st unit.

I think T-JAck is done. IF he starts next week he needs to have the game of his life to stay in the hunt. Even if he somehow makes the regular season roster, it will be his last season in a seahawks uniform.

FWBrodie
08-13-2012, 12:42 AM
The ball is ****ing rolling.

Rain City
08-13-2012, 12:44 PM
russell wilson is a Point Guard of a QB, there was one play he went to the edge the safety came off the reciever and he hit him with a dart....Great vision! i like that ish!! That drives DCs nuts! and i like that when he takes off to run he tries to avoid contact..... flynn was ok too, alot of high % passes, but im loving russ wilson!

FWBrodie
08-13-2012, 03:22 PM
I'm team Russell.

shen
08-13-2012, 03:44 PM
Can we not do team this person and team that person please? Every time someone does that I flash back to my mom wearing a Team Edward tshirt, it's disturbing. Plus they are both Seahawks.

ccg34
08-13-2012, 03:51 PM
Can we not do team this person and team that person please? Every time someone does that I flash back to my mom wearing a Team Edward tshirt, it's disturbing. Plus they are both Seahawks.

:laugh2:

NateyB24
08-13-2012, 04:23 PM
I'm team Russell.

I am fine with either but i think i am on the Russell side to i just think he is more exciting to watch.

Rain City
08-13-2012, 05:43 PM
russell showed more desire and def has more big play ability, i think flynn shows good accuracy but plays more not to make mistakes.

wilson was unbelievably efficient in college and from the 1st preseason game, i dont think it'll take too long for him to acclamate to NFL speed.

Wilson found the perfect home, hawks love to roll out and play action so he doesnt have to see over the O line as much.

Rain City
08-13-2012, 05:51 PM
bruce irvin.... didnt read the hole thread but from what i saw he was having a helluva time disengaging blocks, got a little better as the game went.... kinda like tebow on punt team LOL...

FWBrodie
08-13-2012, 06:12 PM
Irvin did have one very nice play in the backfield on a RB. When an offense has to focus on Clemons, Jones, and Mebane Irvin's going to get some better looks. Any QB who thinks he's going to be able to roll out of the pocket on either side to avoid the pass rush is going to be in big trouble.

I think that was the most impressive aspect of the game though, how good the #1 d-line looked.

NateyB24
08-13-2012, 06:38 PM
Sando said Irvin played sparingly and that he thought Caroll was holding back on defense more concerning was Clemons not getting pressure but he might of not played that much either being a starter.

Also if i am not mistaken i think i heard on the radio that the Titans were 2nd in fewest sacks last season.

shen
08-13-2012, 06:48 PM
Our first unit had 4 or 5 guys in back field in blink of an eye almost every play. Most impressive our pass rush has looked in years, maybe as long as I can remember.

NateyB24
08-13-2012, 07:21 PM
Our first unit had 4 or 5 guys in back field in blink of an eye almost every play. Most impressive our pass rush has looked in years, maybe as long as I can remember.

They were good against the run i thought Hasselbeck had to much time but again i don't think the Titan's give up a lot of sacks and there HC is a former Offensive Linemen.

Jason Jones was always in the backfield ready to hit Chris Johnson though great signing.

jej
08-13-2012, 10:40 PM
People are saying both TO and Braylon wont make the team since neither play special teams. How do you guys see the WR corp shaping up? I think Braylon has to make it after that catch, and how hard it seems he is working.

Rice/TO
Braylon/Tate
Baldwin/Lockette/Durham?

shen
08-13-2012, 10:46 PM
No idea on TO, however Braylon makes the team. Have not seen any reports, just a feeling from watching him on the sideline with interacting with our stars and coaches. Seems like they have ALL bonded to him and look up to him.

NateyB24
08-13-2012, 11:49 PM
I have a feeling T.O makes the team i doubt they would bring in a 38 almost 39 year old just to try out i mean why take reps away from the young guys if he doesn't have a good shot of making the team?

Seattle4Ever
08-14-2012, 12:52 AM
Braylon and TO both bring different things to the table.

Braylon is younger with less reliable hands, but undeniable athleticism.

TO brings a veteran mentor for our young WR corps, reliable hands, a possible cancer, and he's pretty old.

FWBrodie
08-14-2012, 01:13 AM
Lockette better show something. Butler looked good in the game.

NateyB24
08-14-2012, 02:40 AM
Lockette better show something. Butler looked good in the game.

Yea i hate to say it but Lockette better start catching balls doesn't matter if you can run fast if you can't catch.

Breakpoint45
08-14-2012, 03:24 AM
Wilson and and Flyn are playing for the back up slot. Pete will not short circuit the rebuilding of the Hawks by going with three quarterbacks in three years. Jackson will make a run at the playoffs this year, and then hand the team off to Wilson.

Starters normally play one series in the first preseason game anyway so Pete just gave those reps to Flyn for evaluation purposes. Flyn failed to take advantage of the playaction off of the effective running game. the reason he got the ball off quick was because the short pass was his first option, and when the Titans took that away, he threw an interception and took two sacks.

Folks didn't want to hear about Jackson throwing to recievers learning a new system, but now that's all we hear about this first preseason game.

ztilzer31
08-14-2012, 04:00 AM
Wilson and and Flyn are playing for the back up slot. Pete will not short circuit the rebuilding of the Hawks by going with three quarterbacks in three years. Jackson will make a run at the playoffs this year, and then hand the team off to Wilson.

Starters normally play one series in the first preseason game anyway so Pete just gave those reps to Flyn for evaluation purposes. Flyn failed to take advantage of the playaction off of the effective running game. the reason he got the ball off quick was because the short pass was his first option, and when the Titans took that away, he threw an interception and took two sacks.

Folks didn't want to hear about Jackson throwing to recievers learning a new system, but now that's all we hear about this first preseason game.

Dude you must be more stoned then I am right now. Hey, I ain't gonna hate on you for liking TJack. He ain't bad, but he's not starting.

In all honesty Flynn looked a lot better than Wilson on Saturday. I think Wilson has that big play capability with his legs and arm, but he needs to learn the offense. If we throw him in there right now and he completes 55% of his passes we're going to look real stupid. He needs a year to learn the offense. I think Wilson is smart, but to expect him to pick up an offense that Flynn has basically 4 years experience in is asking too much. Flynn isn't bad. We're not desperate for a QB. Flynn needs to start this year. Flynn is a great play action passer though. I don't know what you're talking about. If anything that's Flynn's best attribute. His play action was extremely hard to read.

We know Russell is talented, but he's not ready IMO.

He throws the ball short to open receivers because that's the west coast offense. Moving the ball little by little. Either way Tarvaris isn't starting man. Sell the jersey lol.

ccg34
08-14-2012, 06:37 AM
Dude you must be more stoned then I am right now. Hey, I ain't gonna hate on you for liking TJack. He ain't bad, but he's not starting.

In all honesty Flynn looked a lot better than Wilson on Saturday. I think Wilson has that big play capability with his legs and arm, but he needs to learn the offense. If we throw him in there right now and he completes 55% of his passes we're going to look real stupid. He needs a year to learn the offense. I think Wilson is smart, but to expect him to pick up an offense that Flynn has basically 4 years experience in is asking too much. Flynn isn't bad. We're not desperate for a QB. Flynn needs to start this year. Flynn is a great play action passer though. I don't know what you're talking about. If anything that's Flynn's best attribute. His play action was extremely hard to read.

We know Russell is talented, but he's not ready IMO.

He throws the ball short to open receivers because that's the west coast offense. Moving the ball little by little. Either way Tarvaris isn't starting man. Sell the jersey lol.

Russell Wilson clearly outplayed Flynn. Look at the stats. Wilson made plays. All Flynn did was throw to an open wr within 5 yards from him. Maybe that is what Pete asked of him. I'm not saying that is a bad thing. I'm saying that I wasn't impressed. He also had 2 sacks and 1 interception. T Jack played the same way last year. Flynn just looked like a game manager. Round 1 of the qb battle goes to Wilson.

jej
08-14-2012, 10:35 AM
I know, but do we want to have to cut 2 of Lockette, Durham and Butler? And possibly only carry 2 qbs? Apparently we might have to so we can have enough Special teams.

NateyB24
08-14-2012, 11:01 AM
I know, but do we want to have to cut 2 of Lockette, Durham and Butler? And possibly only carry 2 qbs? Apparently we might have to so we can have enough Special teams.

Durham has sucked he is expendable and while i think Lockette might make the team since he can play WR and Special Teams i think he is also on the chopping block because he isn't catching the ball very well either.

As Brodie said i think Butler has the best chance to make the team as well before i wasn't so sure.

Rain City
08-14-2012, 12:22 PM
Braylon and TO both bring different things to the table.

Braylon is younger with less reliable hands, but undeniable athleticism.

TO brings a veteran mentor for our young WR corps, reliable hands, a possible cancer, and he's pretty old.

TO has never had reliable hands, he can punish CBs tho and get YAC and make plays.

Braylon's athleticism has fallen and he can drop balls due to concentration but he has ball skills, the only area i see him better than an inshape TO is in the red zone and that is a big need, but maybe not with Rice healthy....

it makes sense to only keep 1 of them, and will be a tough call but i think pete will do whats best.

shen
08-14-2012, 01:04 PM
TO has always had questionable hands. Entire time in Dallas looked like he had cinder blocks for hands. If I had a choice between TO and Braylon I keep Braylon. Braylon looks like already bonding with the team, both offense and defense. He is younger and less question marks.

NateyB24
08-14-2012, 01:23 PM
Yea Braylon Edwards will flash but let's not forget he also will have bricks for hands as well.

Listening to the radio and reading articles it makes it sound like Edwards wasn't having that great of a camp until Caroll brought in T.O threatening his chance to make the team.

ztilzer31
08-14-2012, 01:52 PM
Russell Wilson clearly outplayed Flynn. Look at the stats. Wilson made plays. All Flynn did was throw to an open wr within 5 yards from him. Maybe that is what Pete asked of him. I'm not saying that is a bad thing. I'm saying that I wasn't impressed. He also had 2 sacks and 1 interception. T Jack played the same way last year. Flynn just looked like a game manager. Round 1 of the qb battle goes to Wilson.

I completely disagree. Even the deep pass Wilson threw was luck. He looked desperate out there.

I don't base what I think of a performance on stats though lol. Also Wilson was against 2nd stringers.

shen
08-14-2012, 01:55 PM
Wilson is NEVER desperate. He is calm, cool, and in control 24/7.

NateyB24
08-14-2012, 02:13 PM
I completely disagree. Even the deep pass Wilson threw was luck. He looked desperate out there.

I don't base what I think of a performance on stats though lol. Also Wilson was against 2nd stringers.

I hate this "Oh that throw to Edwards is lucky" i have been hearing this a lot he threw a ball up for a 6'2+ WR to go up and make a play what is wrong with that?

ztilzer31
08-14-2012, 02:13 PM
Like I said before I think Wilson showed he has the Wow factor, but he looked lost there sometimes. He definitely needs a year IMO. I would be a disservice to him, and the whole Seahawks team to make Wilson learn on the fly. There's a reason only bad teams start there drafted QB's, and we're not a bad team. We have time to let him progress without throwing him into the gauntlet.

ztilzer31
08-14-2012, 02:14 PM
I hate this "Oh that throw to Edwards is lucky" i have been hearing this a lot he threw a ball up for a 6'2+ WR to go up and make a player what is wrong with that?

The throw itself wasn't that great of a throw lol. If that was an actual good DB that wouldn't of been a completion. The throw needed to be made earlier or in the back of the endzone. Nicer catch then throw IMO.

ztilzer31
08-14-2012, 02:15 PM
Wilson is NEVER desperate. He is calm, cool, and in control 24/7.

He definitely had jitters. It was his first pro game ever so I'm not going to put too much emphasis on it, but he definitely had jitters.

NateyB24
08-14-2012, 02:16 PM
The throw itself wasn't that great of a throw lol. If that was an actual good DB that wouldn't of been a completion. The throw needed to be made earlier or in the back of the endzone. Nicer catch then throw IMO.

Disagree he threw it up for Braylon to go get there is always that risk with those kinds of throws that have a possibility to get picked off even from a good QB.

ztilzer31
08-14-2012, 02:46 PM
Disagree he threw it up for Braylon to go get there is always that risk with those kinds of throws that have a possibility to get picked off even from a good QB.

Deep throw to one on one coverage usually isn't "just throwing it up". Those throws are all timing related. The great QB's in this league don't ever just "throw it up" lol. The Daunte Cullpeppers of this league throw it up.

NateyB24
08-14-2012, 02:50 PM
Deep throw to one on one coverage usually isn't "just throwing it up". Those throws are all timing related. The great QB's in this league don't ever just "throw it up" lol. The Daunte Cullpeppers of this league throw it up.

Really? So when they see 1 on 1 they never throw it up in the air for the receiver to make a play on the ball? I am not taking anything away from the catch but that's what you would expect a 6'3 WR to do grab the ball.

If you want to knock Wilson for a bad throw it was the one he made in the end zone there was no reason to throw to that receiver who had 3 guys around him and got picked off.

shen
08-14-2012, 02:51 PM
ALL QB's "just throw it up" from time to time. Including the Aaron Rodgers and Drew Brees of this league. The trick is getting it to the right point where your WR is only one that's going to get it. Wilson did that.

ccg34
08-14-2012, 03:14 PM
Im listening to 710 ESPN radio. They say T Jack played with the 1st team today. It looks like he is starting next game. Pete has not issued a statement as of yet.

Update: Flynn will start the 1st half vs Denver; Wilson 2nd half. T Jack will not play. I wonder why they gave T Jack all the 1st team snaps. :confused:

Rain City
08-14-2012, 03:49 PM
Deep throw to one on one coverage usually isn't "just throwing it up". Those throws are all timing related. The great QB's in this league don't ever just "throw it up" lol. The Daunte Cullpeppers of this league throw it up.

it was a [U]great[/U ]throw. he got the ball out on time, and threw to a bigger WR who had no help coverage in the end zone. he wasnt drilling one in between 2 defenders, but he kept the ball on the outside and he won big points with the WRs for showing trust and not checking down....

in today's NFL, that play usually draws a PI, braylon made a play, props all around..... especially to the balanced offense attack, if we were AZ or someone that doesnt run the ball or throw short affectively a safety is usally in position to make a play...

ccg34
08-14-2012, 04:06 PM
What if Wilson and Flynn are fighting to be the challenger of T Jack for the #1 spot? :speechless:

shen
08-14-2012, 04:13 PM
This is Jacksons last chance. He does poorly which he will, and that's the end. Everything coming out has made it clear Jackson has been least impressive QB in camp.

ztilzer31
08-14-2012, 04:25 PM
it was a [U]great[/U ]throw. he got the ball out on time, and threw to a bigger WR who had no help coverage in the end zone. he wasnt drilling one in between 2 defenders, but he kept the ball on the outside and he won big points with the WRs for showing trust and not checking down....

in today's NFL, that play usually draws a PI, braylon made a play, props all around..... especially to the balanced offense attack, if we were AZ or someone that doesnt run the ball or throw short affectively a safety is usally in position to make a play...

The catch was more impressive than the throw. The throw wasn't kept on the outside where it was suppose to be it was thrown on the inside, and Braylon had to cross over the corner in order to make the catch, and slow down. The throw was okay, but it wasn't THAT impressive. The interception is more my concern anyhow. That was a rookie mistake. He needs more reps so things like that don't happen.

Seattle4Ever
08-14-2012, 08:34 PM
Russell Wilson clearly outplayed Flynn. Look at the stats. Wilson made plays. All Flynn did was throw to an open wr within 5 yards from him. Maybe that is what Pete asked of him. I'm not saying that is a bad thing. I'm saying that I wasn't impressed. He also had 2 sacks and 1 interception. T Jack played the same way last year. Flynn just looked like a game manager. Round 1 of the qb battle goes to Wilson.

Are you joking? Of course Wilson's stats look good. They're inflated from playing against 2nd, 3rd, and 4th stringers. He played in the second half. The same time as the Titans' 3rd string QB :facepalm:

Seattle4Ever
08-14-2012, 08:36 PM
ALL QB's "just throw it up" from time to time. Including the Aaron Rodgers and Drew Brees of this league. The trick is getting it to the right point where your WR is only one that's going to get it. Wilson did that.

Well, the ball was underthrown a bit. It was Braylon Edwards going against someone who wasn't a starter, so...

NateyB24
08-14-2012, 09:37 PM
Are we seriously being this picky? Go watch the throw Wilson put it where only his receiver could get it.

I would love to see him go against #1's but Caroll isn't doing that.

FWBrodie
08-14-2012, 11:43 PM
Russell Wilson clearly outplayed Flynn. Look at the stats. Wilson made plays. All Flynn did was throw to an open wr within 5 yards from him. Maybe that is what Pete asked of him. I'm not saying that is a bad thing. I'm saying that I wasn't impressed. He also had 2 sacks and 1 interception. T Jack played the same way last year. Flynn just looked like a game manager. Round 1 of the qb battle goes to Wilson.

Agreed, convincingly so.

FWBrodie
08-14-2012, 11:47 PM
I completely disagree. Even the deep pass Wilson threw was luck. He looked desperate out there.

I don't base what I think of a performance on stats though lol. Also Wilson was against 2nd stringers.

What? Desperate? He took advantage of the best options on the field. He had a one on one with an extreme mismatch and made the right throw. Then he keeps it on a run option that he had set up earlier in the game and takes it 30 yards for a TD on a very impressive run. Desperate? That's ****ing baloney bro.

FWBrodie
08-14-2012, 11:50 PM
The throw itself wasn't that great of a throw lol. If that was an actual good DB that wouldn't of been a completion. The throw needed to be made earlier or in the back of the endzone. Nicer catch then throw IMO.

Nope. He made a choice to attack a weakness, you throw a ball like that short and make it an athleticism contest. Maybe he meant to lead it more, maybe not, we don't know, but when you've got that matchup in the endzone you just put a ball on your wideout that you know he can get to and let him do his thing.

FWBrodie
08-14-2012, 11:51 PM
He definitely had jitters. It was his first pro game ever so I'm not going to put too much emphasis on it, but he definitely had jitters.

On the pick, MAYBE. Other than that I saw nothing but confidence and competitveness.

FWBrodie
08-14-2012, 11:55 PM
Deep throw to one on one coverage usually isn't "just throwing it up". Those throws are all timing related. The great QB's in this league don't ever just "throw it up" lol. The Daunte Cullpeppers of this league throw it up.

This is just flat wrong for one.

Two, it could be argued he read the DB being beat and knew he wouldn't be able to react to ball thrown to the near shoulder because he's in recovery mode on a go route. I mean he threw Braylon open behind the DB. Again, we don't know what went threw Russell's mind, but we do know that he made the right decision and it paid off.

FWBrodie
08-14-2012, 11:58 PM
The catch was more impressive than the throw. The throw wasn't kept on the outside where it was suppose to be it was thrown on the inside, and Braylon had to cross over the corner in order to make the catch, and slow down. The throw was okay, but it wasn't THAT impressive. The interception is more my concern anyhow. That was a rookie mistake. He needs more reps so things like that don't happen.

Did you happen to see Flynn look a linebacker in the eyes and hit him in the hands?

shen
08-15-2012, 12:02 AM
Wilson had a rookie mistake INT, that is never a concern because rookies make mistakes. What is Flynns excuse for a much worse pick?

FWBrodie
08-15-2012, 12:07 AM
Are you joking? Of course Wilson's stats look good. They're inflated from playing against 2nd, 3rd, and 4th stringers. He played in the second half. The same time as the Titans' 3rd string QB :facepalm:

This is a valid point.

Bottom line is that Wilson would have been scolded in the film room if he didn't throw that ball to Edwards. He made the right decision for his situation and completed the pass for a TD. He did everything correct and that's all you can ask for.

The question does remain, does he get this look against the #1's and does he still have the balls to take it? We shall see.

kyuss275
08-15-2012, 12:31 AM
If Flynn and Wilson play like they did last week then T-Jack is as good as gone. That said if one of them plays poorly i think the door opens a bit ( not all the way) for T-Jack.

Think the coach made the right call giving Flynn the start and Wilson the 2nd and 3rd stringers.

I would like to see what Flynn could do with Rice, Edwards and TO against the 1st unit D of the Bronco's. If Wilson can perform like he did last week then i would not mind trying him with the 1st unit for week 3. Not sure Wilson is ready to go into ramped up crowd waiting for Manning to take his first snaps at home.

jej
08-15-2012, 12:47 AM
On the radio they were saying that play was 90% Braylon. I definately think it was him too, but not 90%. Maybe 60-40 Braylon. Great idea, throw could have been a tad better.

ztilzer31
08-15-2012, 02:29 AM
Did you happen to see Flynn look a linebacker in the eyes and hit him in the hands?

Yeah I felt like that was more of a great play by the linebacker, and the one Russell Wilson had the linebacker was literally there the whole time...

Honestly no one is even talking about Russell Wilson's best throw IMO. The one where he ran outside the pocket and delivered the ball over the linebacker perfectly. That throw was impressive, but the pick tells a lot about him. He's still young, and young QB's force plays. Like I've said there's a reason only bad teams start QB's they just drafted.

We're going to have to agree to disagree on this one. If a better corner was on Braylon that was an in-completion. He definitely didn't leave it "where only Braylon could catch it" like everyone has been saying. That was not that great of a throw. I'd give the throw a C+ and the catch an A-. It doesn't take skill to throw up a hail mary, and hope your receiver catches it. People are overrating this throw by a lot. Yeah the run was good, and yeah a couple of the throws were nice, but he looked like a rookie out there IMO. I hope the best for Russell Wilson, but having him start this year would be a horrible idea.

NateyB24
08-15-2012, 02:48 AM
That throw by Flynn was actually pretty terrible the LB jumped the ball but he was right there to make the play and just jumped on it.

I will be fine with either one though they both seem a lot more accurate then T-Jack.

FWBrodie
08-15-2012, 09:59 AM
Yeah I felt like that was more of a great play by the linebacker, and the one Russell Wilson had the linebacker was literally there the whole time...

Honestly no one is even talking about Russell Wilson's best throw IMO. The one where he ran outside the pocket and delivered the ball over the linebacker perfectly. That throw was impressive, but the pick tells a lot about him. He's still young, and young QB's force plays. Like I've said there's a reason only bad teams start QB's they just drafted.

We're going to have to agree to disagree on this one. If a better corner was on Braylon that was an in-completion. He definitely didn't leave it "where only Braylon could catch it" like everyone has been saying. That was not that great of a throw. I'd give the throw a C+ and the catch an A-. It doesn't take skill to throw up a hail mary, and hope your receiver catches it. People are overrating this throw by a lot. Yeah the run was good, and yeah a couple of the throws were nice, but he looked like a rookie out there IMO. I hope the best for Russell Wilson, but having him start this year would be a horrible idea.

Hmm. Pittsburgh was sure horrible when they won the Super Bowl Ben's rookie year. Baltimore? Atlanta? You can't tell us Wilson threw one pick because he's young and then say Flynn's was a good play by a linebacker. They were the exact same pick except Wilson's was 25 yards beyond the LOS and Flynn's was 5. I'm sorry dude, but you're reaching real hard right now, and no one is buying it. You wanna discredit Wilson, you can talk about his competition, but the play was all positive and in fact better than Flynn.

jej
08-15-2012, 11:31 AM
Of course he looked like a rookie, he is one! I'm not saying he was perfect, but he was more exciting, and probably better than Flynn. He is a rookie and was nervous, but he still only made one mistake, and it wasn't as bad as Flynns. All Flynn has on him is experience, and efficiency/game management. Wilson has a better arm, is faster, more willing to make big plays, and is more accuarate on the deep ball.

That being said, he was playing against the 2s and 3s, even some 4s. The throw to Braylon may have been knocked down by a better DB, and maybe some other plays would have been challenged better.

ztilzer31
08-15-2012, 11:48 AM
Hmm. Pittsburgh was sure horrible when they won the Super Bowl Ben's rookie year. Baltimore? Atlanta? You can't tell us Wilson threw one pick because he's young and then say Flynn's was a good play by a linebacker. They were the exact same pick except Wilson's was 25 yards beyond the LOS and Flynn's was 5. I'm sorry dude, but you're reaching real hard right now, and no one is buying it. You wanna discredit Wilson, you can talk about his competition, but the play was all positive and in fact better than Flynn.

It's called being realistic. Okay smartass. First of all Ben didn't start when he first came into Pittsburgh he was actually third string. It went Tommy Maddux, Charlie Batch, and then Big Ben. Also big Ben didn't make it to the super bowl till his 2nd year. Maybe you should research stuff before you just let it fall from your very big mouth. Lets be honest though I'm pretty use to you saying ******** stuff about QB's. I mean we all know Manning is gonna die if he ever gets hit again, and Sanchez is the best QB in the NFL next to Kolb right Brodie? LOL. Good thing you're not our GM we'd be ****ed!

Also if you're referring to Flacco, and Ryan neither have won super bowls, and Flacco wasn't the starting QB right away. He got the job because of 2 injuries, and the Falcons started Ryan because they were completely garbage the year before. So both those are 2 completely different situations.

ztilzer31
08-15-2012, 12:14 PM
Of course he looked like a rookie, he is one! I'm not saying he was perfect, but he was more exciting, and probably better than Flynn. He is a rookie and was nervous, but he still only made one mistake, and it wasn't as bad as Flynns. All Flynn has on him is experience, and efficiency/game management. Wilson has a better arm, is faster, more willing to make big plays, and is more accuarate on the deep ball.

That being said, he was playing against the 2s and 3s, even some 4s. The throw to Braylon may have been knocked down by a better DB, and maybe some other plays would have been challenged better.

That's exactly my point. Like I said earlier my favorite throw of Russell Wilson's was when he threw the ball across his body on the run for a strike over the linebacker. THAT is an NFL level play. The deep ball would of been an in completion during the regular season, that corner just sucked.

Lets make one thing clear. I'm never a fan of starting a QB right out of college. I like the idea of letting a QB learn the system first 99% of the time. If you're the Colts, and you have no playoff hopes, and you have the best QB out of college of all time, or your the Redskins, and the rest of your QB's are a joke that's fine, but when your the Seahawks and you expect to compete for the playoff right away... I just think people need to be more realistic about this last game. Flynn knows the offense, and Wilson just had his first game in the NFL. We need a QB who's going to be accurate and run the system. Not one that's going to make big plays while going through growing pains, and if we start Wilson there will be some growing pains.

shen
08-15-2012, 01:15 PM
Well the Jackson debate is now over. Seahawks are shopping Jackson around and wont play him in preseason to avoid chance of him getting injured.


http://blog.thenewstribune.com/seahawks/2012/08/15/morning-links-is-jackson-trade-bait/

ztilzer31
08-15-2012, 02:00 PM
Well the Jackson debate is now over. Seahawks are shopping Jackson around and wont play him in preseason to avoid chance of him getting injured.


http://blog.thenewstribune.com/seahawks/2012/08/15/morning-links-is-jackson-trade-bait/

Good, I was going to feel bad about putting Portis at 4th string...

People are saying Arizona, but I'm no sure if the Seahawks are open to trading a solid veteran QB to them. I've also heard they're looking for between a 4th-7th round pick... If we trade Tarvaris Jackson for a 4th round pick I'll crap my pants.

jej
08-15-2012, 02:43 PM
I honestly think there is a chance one of TO or Braylon is cut. This group seems to love Durham, even tho he hasn't done anything and is just taking up a spot. Neither TO or Edwards plays ST and that's an issue. I don't want to see Lockette and Butler cut, but it will happen if TO and BE are on the team.

NateyB24
08-15-2012, 03:04 PM
I honestly think there is a chance one of TO or Braylon is cut. This group seems to love Durham, even tho he hasn't done anything and is just taking up a spot. Neither TO or Edwards plays ST and that's an issue. I don't want to see Lockette and Butler cut, but it will happen if TO and BE are on the team.

Durham is having a poor camp he is probably going to get cut 2nd camp a row where he isn't impressive.

Seattle4Ever
08-15-2012, 03:26 PM
I really want to see Wilson in the third week of the preseason starting.

Flynn should get two starts, and Wilson should get two starts. Sounds completely fair to me. On the other hand, I'd like to see whomever is dubbed our #1 QB to start getting starting reps.

NateyB24
08-15-2012, 03:43 PM
I really want to see Wilson in the third week of the preseason starting.

Flynn should get two starts, and Wilson should get two starts. Sounds completely fair to me. On the other hand, I'd like to see whomever is dubbed our #1 QB to start getting starting reps.

I would have loved to see Wilson start this week as well but the way Caroll is starting Flynn two times in a row makes me believe Flynn will be the starter which is unfair imo.

jej
08-15-2012, 04:14 PM
Maybe you start Wilson next week and Flynn again in week 4, assuming he is the starter. At least get a look with the 1s

NateyB24
08-15-2012, 04:42 PM
Maybe you start Wilson next week and Flynn again in week 4, assuming he is the starter. At least get a look with the 1s

Maybe Pete Caroll will do something like that but i think by the 3rd preseason game you should have your starter named so he can play with the starters and get into rhythm.


Seahawks OC Darrell Bevell again confirms that the plan for Saturday at QB is same as vs Titans. No TJack.

http://twitter.com/Softykjr/status/235824513982558208

Sounds like Jackson is as good as gone which is what we all were thinking.

kyuss275
08-15-2012, 06:19 PM
I would have loved to see Wilson start this week as well but the way Caroll is starting Flynn two times in a row makes me believe Flynn will be the starter which is unfair imo.


"unfair"? Flynn threw for 11-13 against the first unit. It could be argued that he should have been 12-13 if McCoy did not drop the pass that hit him in the numbers. Hell Jeff Feagles could have caught that pass. I would also say that Wilson got to throw to the best reciever (Edwards) that was in the line up that night.

I loved what Wilson did on Saturday, but i don't see why people want to rush him when it looks like Flynn is more than capable of running the offense this season. Now if there was no Flynn and the it was just T-Jack and Wilson then i could see a reason to rush him. Wilson is going to learn a lot this season being on the sidelines and watching. No need to rush.

NateyB24
08-15-2012, 06:34 PM
"unfair"? Flynn threw for 11-13 against the first unit. It could be argued that he should have been 12-13 if McCoy did not drop the pass that hit him in the numbers. Hell Jeff Feagles could have caught that pass. I would also say that Wilson got to throw to the best reciever (Edwards) that was in the line up that night.

I loved what Wilson did on Saturday, but i don't see why people want to rush him when it looks like Flynn is more than capable of running the offense this season. Now if there was no Flynn and the it was just T-Jack and Wilson then i could see a reason to rush him. Wilson is going to learn a lot this season being on the sidelines and watching. No need to rush.

Yes it is unfair when Wilson doesn't get a chance to play against the #1's since it's a QB competition because doubters are just going to say what you say "He only played against 2nd/3rd stringers."

ztilzer31
08-15-2012, 06:45 PM
Yes it is unfair when Wilson doesn't get a chance to play against the #1's since it's a QB competition because doubters are just going to say what you say "He only played against 2nd/3rd stringers."

Russell Wilson is in the QB competition because he showed in preseason he's already able to play at the tempo the NFL calls for, but he didn't get the start because Flynn showed in the preseason he's more consistent.

1. Pete said it's Flynn's job to lose at this point.
2. Did Flynn show good things as well as Russell Wilson?
3. Is it a smart move to put your season in the hands of a rookie?

If Flynn went 4-12 with 2 picks, and just looked horrible out there I'd understand, but he didn't. He had a very efficient game, and Russell had a pretty good one as well.

Breakpoint45
08-15-2012, 07:09 PM
Do not believe internnet rumors. Jackson isn't going anywhere. Flynn and Wilson are getting all of the reps because they need them. Starting Jackson is the only way the Hawks make the playoffs this year.

jej
08-15-2012, 07:19 PM
Do not believe internnet rumors. Jackson isn't going anywhere. Flynn and Wilson are getting all of the reps because they need them. Starting Jackson is the only way the Hawks make the playoffs this year.

I really hope you are trolling. Jackson is not a playoff QB. He is a .500 season QB.

NateyB24
08-15-2012, 07:20 PM
Russell Wilson is in the QB competition because he showed in preseason he's already able to play at the tempo the NFL calls for, but he didn't get the start because Flynn showed in the preseason he's more consistent.

1. Pete said it's Flynn's job to lose at this point.
2. Did Flynn show good things as well as Russell Wilson?
3. Is it a smart move to put your season in the hands of a rookie?

If Flynn went 4-12 with 2 picks, and just looked horrible out there I'd understand, but he didn't. He had a very efficient game, and Russell had a pretty good one as well.

Caroll never said this he even is still saying Jackson is part of the competition which i find hard to believe but you can tell which QB he is leaning to judging by starting Flynn the last 2 games.

shen
08-15-2012, 07:21 PM
Stop trolling. Jackson is gone and everyone knows it.

furmat60
08-15-2012, 07:48 PM
Jackson will be gone.

Breakpoint45
08-15-2012, 07:50 PM
Not trolling. Just stating an opinion.

jej
08-15-2012, 07:58 PM
Care to tell us why you believe that?

kyuss275
08-15-2012, 08:40 PM
Yes it is unfair when Wilson doesn't get a chance to play against the #1's since it's a QB competition because doubters are just going to say what you say "He only played against 2nd/3rd stringers."


Well since its a QB competition is it "fair" that T- Jack is getting nothing? Remember this is supose to be a 3 qb competition.

I am not a doubter on Wilson's ability, but i feel no need to rush him when it looks like Flynn can be a very good QB for the hawks.

Breakpoint45
08-15-2012, 10:05 PM
Sure I'll tell you why I believe will start. Because very few coaches will start an unknown when he has a guy that he knows can get him to the playoffs. Jackson played well against playoff teams last year and he will have a better team around him this year. Jackson nursed an inexperienced reciever crew to a respectabe record hampered with a young offensive line and a torn pec. With those results under those circumstances, his ability cannot be questioned.

Many who want Flynn either assume that Jackson's production won't improve or that Flynn will play at the level of Alex Smith, or Matt Ryan. Well the likelyhood of Jackson bettering his 2011 production is more probable than Flynn flying out of the gate.

FWBrodie
08-15-2012, 10:49 PM
I believe Jackson would improve his production if he won the job, but I also think it's evident he's getting beaten by two guys at this point. Jackson is talented, but he represents an area of the team that has room for improvement. I'm not convinced Flynn is an upgrade yet, but if the competition is close he'll win because he's playing from behind. Wilson has been so impressive that cutting Jackson has become much less of a risk than it once appeared to be.

Pete Carroll and John Schneider have talked about what they look for in a QB over the years: "tilts the field", can contribute to the running game, big arm, protects possession. They've also spoken about being flexible and building an offense around the strengths of a QB. Flynn represents the "being flexible" plan. In other words, they'd be settling on a less than ideal prototype for the position. Russell Wilson fits the mold.

One of these guys will earn it this preseason. I'm pulling for Wilson because that would mean they've hit a homerun, they've found their prototype.

Seattle4Ever
08-15-2012, 10:53 PM
1. Jackson will be gone by the fourth week of the preseason.

2. PC never said it's Flynn's job to lose. Why would he ever say that? Supposedly it's a three QB race. If it was his job to lose he'd be getting (close to) all first team reps at practice.

jej
08-15-2012, 11:26 PM
Sure I'll tell you why I believe will start. Because very few coaches will start an unknown when he has a guy that he knows can get him to the playoffs. Jackson played well against playoff teams last year and he will have a better team around him this year. Jackson nursed an inexperienced reciever crew to a respectabe record hampered with a young offensive line and a torn pec. With those results under those circumstances, his ability cannot be questioned.

Many who want Flynn either assume that Jackson's production won't improve or that Flynn will play at the level of Alex Smith, or Matt Ryan. Well the likelyhood of Jackson bettering his 2011 production is more probable than Flynn flying out of the gate.

But he doesnt know he can get him to the playoffs. He isnt good in the pocket, runs backwards when under pressure rather than using his speed to get something out of it, and isnt accurate.

I honestly dont get how you can think he WILL start. Maybe you think he should, but the fact that he hasnt played at all, and is in trade rumors make it clear he is gone.

Breakpoint45
08-15-2012, 11:37 PM
The camp reports make the competition seem close. The Flynn I saw against the Titans did not match the camp reports where he was throwing recievers open and going through progressions. What I saw was a guy protecting his completion percentage. In camp I heard of every one of T-Jacks interceptions, and was lead to believe that Flynn wasn't throwing any, yet in the game Flyn failed to see a linebacker five yards away.

I think Wilson will win more games than Flynn, and that Jackson will win more games than both, and I don't believe that Pete wants to get on that quarterback carosel of three quarterbacks in three years, or four in four years if Wilson is to take over in 13.

jej
08-15-2012, 11:47 PM
Explain why Jackson isnt playing then. If he was in it, he would be playing.

The dude is ok, but he wont get us to where we want to be, the playoffs/super bowl. We know that pretty well. We dont know about Flynn or Wilson, but most think they have a better shot at getting us there.

Seattle4Ever
08-16-2012, 12:23 AM
Explain why Jackson isnt playing then. If he was in it, he would be playing.

The dude is ok, but he wont get us to where we want to be, the playoffs/super bowl. We know that pretty well. We dont know about Flynn or Wilson, but most think they have a better shot at getting us there.

Because Pete Carroll already knows what he brings to the table, and because he'll be gone soon.