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Devils05
07-25-2012, 09:18 PM
From JRudolphSports (https://twitter.com/JRudolphSports/status/228296378286223360)
During the meeting, Howard informed Hennigan that he would be willing to re-sign with the Lakers at the end of the 12-13 season if the two teams were able to complete a trade. The scenarios Howard was open to during the meeting were: An immediate trade to the Lakers, a January trade to the Brooklyn Nets or a clean break at the end of the 2012-13 season. But he was clear that he would not return to the Magic, choosing to leave as a free agent after the season, sources said.

StarvingKnick22
07-25-2012, 09:20 PM
Really Seems like he's pissed.

StarvingKnick22
07-25-2012, 09:21 PM
i think they Should make a trade with TNT Shaq for Howard Straight Up.

LAKERMANIA
07-25-2012, 09:21 PM
I don't understand... What is Hennigan expecting? He wants out...

Lakeshow24KB
07-25-2012, 09:24 PM
This is the Lakers last chance.

Avenged
07-25-2012, 09:26 PM
LOL. Dwight gave the Magic 3 choices: Lakers, Nets, or bye..

That's not even messed up anymore, it's reality. If the Magic keep choosing to keep him then that's on them.

Davidgta1
07-25-2012, 09:26 PM
I wonder if he thought Dwight was gonna say he wants to stay? Lol

mightybosstone
07-25-2012, 09:27 PM
Howard is going to LA, Bynum and Richardson are going to Houston, Kevin Martin, a couple of young prospects and Toronto's draft pick next year are going to Orlando. I have a feeling this will happen within the next two weeks, and I'd put money on it.

diu9leilomo
07-25-2012, 09:28 PM
clearly the lakers trade would be the best option for olando, what r they waiting for?

Evolution23
07-25-2012, 09:28 PM
Source: Dwight changes his mind again, and decides to opt in for another year.

airforceones25
07-25-2012, 09:28 PM
perfect. i'd send him to houston then! gather as much young assets and picks you can and watch him suffer. If houston doesn't trade him at the deadline the Lakers and Nets are out of the picture. Can't do any sign and trades as they are over the cap. Dwight spit on me, I spit on you all the while they get the best assets they can. Lol

SouthSideRookie
07-25-2012, 09:29 PM
Howard is going to LA, Bynum and Richardson are going to Houston, Kevin Martin, a couple of young prospects and Toronto's draft pick next year are going to Orlando. I have a feeling this will happen within the next two weeks, and I'd put money on it.

The Rockets don't need to make a trade. Let the other teams figure it out. It's Dwight or bust.

StarvingKnick22
07-25-2012, 09:30 PM
The Rockets don't need to make a trade. Let the other teams figure it out. It's Dwight or bust.

Who is that girl in your profile pic?

popo85
07-25-2012, 09:31 PM
He ends up in Philly:D

Cal827
07-25-2012, 09:31 PM
Yeh Houston isn't interested anymore. Who Needs Dwight Howard when you have Omer Asik?

seikou8
07-25-2012, 09:32 PM
he is leaving bye he is gone this time i think he is going to la.

IndyRealist
07-25-2012, 09:32 PM
He will go wherever he is traded, I don't see how he's holding any cards. If Houston offers the best deal, knowing he said he won't resign, I'd take it. Houston's confident Howard won't leave the extra $25M they can offer with his Bird rights, and he can't go to the Lakers or the Nets next year without a sign and trade because both teams will be over the cap. He has zero leverage.

seikou8
07-25-2012, 09:33 PM
Yeh Houston isn't interested anymore. Who Needs Dwight Howard when you have Omer Asik?

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

mightybosstone
07-25-2012, 09:33 PM
The Rockets don't need to make a trade. Let the other teams figure it out. It's Dwight or bust.

They don't necessarily need to make a trade, but I'd be perfectly fine if they did as long as it did not involve Jeremy Lamb or Chandler Parsons (Lin and Motiejunas cannot be traded right now). Bynum would easily be the best player the Rockets have had on their roster since Yao and Tracy were healthy, and even with Asik signed for three years, he and Bynum could both get decent minutes and maybe even play on the floor at the same time.

Hawkeye15
07-25-2012, 09:33 PM
just trade this tampon, seriously.

DoMeFavors
07-25-2012, 09:34 PM
The way Dwight is acting right now you think he would be fine in Houston? I doubt he would play a game.

ThunderousDemon
07-25-2012, 09:34 PM
He will go wherever he is traded, I don't see how he's holding any cards. If Houston offers the best deal, knowing he said he won't resign, I'd take it. Houston's confident Howard won't leave the extra $25M they can offer with his Bird rights, and he can't go to the Lakers or the Nets next year without a sign and trade because both teams will be over the cap. He has zero leverage.

He has some leverage because teams won't give up assets for a rental.

KB-Pau-DH2012
07-25-2012, 09:36 PM
Basically, the Lakers window to acquire Dwight is between now and January 14th. So they have over a 6-month window to work with.


Brooklyn's window to acquire Dwight is between January 15th and the 2013 Trade Deadline in mid-late February (4 days after all-star break). So they have only about a 5 week window to work with.


Anything after the trade deadline, then Mark Cuban swoops in and gets Dwight.

SouthSideRookie
07-25-2012, 09:37 PM
Who is that girl in your profile pic?

Sara Carbonero. Click on the link at bottom.


He will go wherever he is traded, I don't see how he's holding any cards. If Houston offers the best deal, knowing he said he won't resign, I'd take it. Houston's confident Howard won't leave the extra $25M they can offer with his Bird rights, and he can't go to the Lakers or the Nets next year without a sign and trade because both teams will be over the cap. He has zero leverage.

Howard's camp is trying to dissuade the Rockets from trading for Dwight and in the process facilitating a Dwight to LA deal. I hope Morey is smart enough to realize this. Just the fact that Fegan has come up with every smokescreen in the book let's me know they ain't planning on walking away from the extra coin. They will try until they have exhausted every angle into getting their way.

cbreezy34
07-25-2012, 09:37 PM
Philly has the most young assets to give up but no way in hell he'd resign there. Hes too much of a *****.

thephoenixson28
07-25-2012, 09:37 PM
Best scenario is to see how good Lopez and Brooks become.

DoMeFavors
07-25-2012, 09:38 PM
Basically, the Lakers window to acquire Dwight is between now and January 14th. So they have over a 6-month window to work with.


Brooklyn's window to acquire Dwight is between January 15th and the 2013 Trade Deadline in mid-late February (4 days after all-star break). So they have only about a 5 week window to work with.


Anything after the trade deadline, then Mark Cuban swoops in and gets Dwight.

Which is why I think they are trying to get Bynum resigned on an extension so they can trade him next year for Dwight

Atl Bill
07-25-2012, 09:39 PM
Howard is going to LA, Bynum and Richardson are going to Houston, Kevin Martin, a couple of young prospects and Toronto's draft pick next year are going to Orlando. I have a feeling this will happen within the next two weeks, and I'd put money on it.

i believe atl owns that draft pick.

lakersiznumber1
07-25-2012, 09:39 PM
time for mitch to make his move i doubt howard will play a game with the magic

KB-Pau-DH2012
07-25-2012, 09:39 PM
Which is why I think they are trying to get Bynum resigned on an extension so they can trade him next year for Dwight

Or it could be that the Lakers decided to leak out the news that they were "talking about extensions with Bynum" the same day that Hennigan decided to visit Dwight in LA.


#poker

Slug3
07-25-2012, 09:40 PM
I hope the magic just bench him all next season. If anything at least he maybe won't get playing bonuses with Adidas and everything else.

Ezio
07-25-2012, 09:41 PM
Dwight's camp told Houston not to trade for him cause he'll just head to Dallas after the this season.

mightybosstone
07-25-2012, 09:42 PM
i believe atl owns that draft pick.

Nope. Atlanta owns Houston's pick which they got from Brooklyn IF the Rockets make the playoffs. If Houston is in the lottery, their first round pick next year is theirs. The pick I'm referring to is the one Houston acquired from Toronto for Lowry. It's essentially Houston's if Toronto picks between 5 and 14 next year, 4 and 14 in 2014 or 3 and 14 in 2015/2016, after which Houston just gets Toronto's pick no matter where it falls.

It's confusing to say the least...

IndyRealist
07-25-2012, 09:43 PM
He has some leverage because teams won't give up assets for a rental.

But if you actually look at the situation, it's not a rental. Because if the team that gets him says, "you can leave if you want to, but we're not doing a sign and trade no matter what" then he can't go LA or Brooklyn, so he loses his bonus from his shoe deal (?). With that money gone is he going to walk away from the $25M extra the team can pay him with his Bird rights?

IndyRealist
07-25-2012, 09:44 PM
I hope the magic just bench him all next season. If anything at least he maybe won't get playing bonuses with Adidas and everything else.

Last time a team did that the player filed a grievance with the NBAPA.

IndyRealist
07-25-2012, 09:47 PM
Dwight's camp told Houston not to trade for him cause he'll just head to Dallas after the this season.

Without Deron Williams? Losing out on $25M? I'd say that too if I were him, but I don't think it's happening.

mightybosstone
07-25-2012, 09:47 PM
Dwight's camp told Houston not to trade for him cause he'll just head to Dallas after the this season.

I just saw that. At this point, I don't even want that ****er anymore. If I'm Morey I just try to facilitate the deal to get Bynum or say "screw it" and continue on the rebuilding path. I don't care how good the guy is. He's not worth it at this point, and the thought of him in Rockets red just makes we want to puke...

arkanian215
07-25-2012, 09:48 PM
0a

ThunderousDemon
07-25-2012, 09:48 PM
But if you actually look at the situation, it's not a rental. Because if the team that gets him says, "you can leave if you want to, but we're not doing a sign and trade no matter what" then he can't go LA or Brooklyn, so he loses his bonus from his shoe deal (?). With that money gone is he going to walk away from the $25M extra the team can pay him with his Bird rights?

That's a risk most teams are not willing to take.

NYY 26 to 7
07-25-2012, 09:50 PM
If there isn't a deal that gets you much better I would love to see a team call a players bluff and see if they will take less money to leave after the season. He can't max out his deal and with that bad back he would have to add another season to his body. I just don't understand why he stayed he could have already been a FA. It has to be the single strangest move in the history of basketball made by a player.

LTBaByyy
07-25-2012, 09:50 PM
I'm not giving my hopes up like D Will so I am happy with the current Mavs!

29$JerZ
07-25-2012, 09:51 PM
I never imagined something could be even more annoying than what Melo did to Denver and LeBron's decision fiasco. Dwight is pretty much making Melo,LeBron look like saints.

keetyweedy
07-25-2012, 09:52 PM
I'm not giving my hopes up like D Will so I am happy with the current Mavs!

:pray:please rockets trade for D12

D12 fan
07-25-2012, 09:54 PM
LOL. Dwight gave the Magic 3 choices: Lakers, Nets, or bye..

That's not even messed up anymore, it's reality. If the Magic keep choosing to keep him then that's on them.

This.:clap:

SouthSideRookie
07-25-2012, 09:55 PM
If there isn't a deal that gets you much better I would love to see a team call a players bluff and see if they will take less money to leave after the season. He can't max out his deal and with that bad back he would have to add another season to his body. I just don't understand why he stayed he could have already been a FA. It has to be the single strangest move in the history of basketball made by a player.

It's like when little brother kicks and screams and causes a scene at the store when mom and dad don't buy him the toy he wants. once he realizes that he's not going to get his way he gets over it eventually.

StarvingKnick22
07-25-2012, 09:55 PM
That's a risk most teams are not willing to take.

This is actually the first time i've seen you not commennt "Knicks are Back!" lol

Ill21
07-25-2012, 09:58 PM
Dwight will sign max extension with ORL and then demand a trade.

Vinny642
07-25-2012, 09:58 PM
I'd wait it out til the deadline

justinnum1
07-25-2012, 09:58 PM
these are the odds i give

40%-lakers
40%-nets
20%-mavs

dodie53
07-25-2012, 09:59 PM
ohhh,
options.

More-Than-Most
07-25-2012, 10:00 PM
No ******** but if I was the owner I would keep him and bench him for the entire season....Or send him to the cavs

ThunderousDemon
07-25-2012, 10:01 PM
these are the odds i give

40%-lakers
40%-nets
20%-mavs

60%-lakers
40%-nets
0%-mavs

mightybosstone
07-25-2012, 10:02 PM
these are the odds i give

40%-lakers
40%-nets
20%-mavs

Yeahhhh.... I don't think the Nets have a chance in hell. Here's my odds if he gets dealt in the next month or so:
Lakers - 70%
Rockets - 30%

Here's my odds closer to the trade deadline:
Mavs - 50%
Lakers - 30% (if they haven't extended Bynum)
Rockets - 25%
Nets - 5%

DoMeFavors
07-25-2012, 10:06 PM
I'm not giving my hopes up like D Will so I am happy with the current Mavs!

Yeah that was just sad.

DoMeFavors
07-25-2012, 10:07 PM
these are the odds i give

40%-lakers
40%-nets
20%-mavs

the other 20 percent is where?

ThunderousDemon
07-25-2012, 10:08 PM
the other 20 percent is where?

:facepalm:

Ill21
07-25-2012, 10:10 PM
the other 20 percent is where?

:clap:

jp611
07-25-2012, 10:12 PM
I wonder if he thought Dwight was gonna say he wants to stay? Lol

In Hennigan's defense, Dwight is like a 15 year old girl, he changes his mind about every other day

LakersSaintsLSU
07-25-2012, 10:13 PM
perfect. i'd send him to houston then! gather as much young assets and picks you can and watch him suffer. If houston doesn't trade him at the deadline the Lakers and Nets are out of the picture. Can't do any sign and trades as they are over the cap. Dwight spit on me, I spit on you all the while they get the best assets they can. Lol

your sig has justified your comment little brother

jp611
07-25-2012, 10:14 PM
the other 20 percent is where?


:clap:

:laugh:

let's go back to the basics here boys

40+40+20=100

DoMeFavors
07-25-2012, 10:14 PM
In Hennigan's defense, Dwight is like a 15 year old girl, he changes his mind about every other day

When did he change his mind he has wanted a trade since June?

JollyRanch
07-25-2012, 10:15 PM
...



Alex Kennedy ‏@AlexKennedyNBA

Dwight Howard agreed to meet with the Magic, thinking they'd have a coach and plan to improve roster in place. Today, they had neither.



Alex Kennedy ‏@AlexKennedyNBA

Instead, Rob Hennigan wanted to talk things out with Dwight Howard and improve their relationship. Howard was frustrated after the meeting.

LakersSaintsLSU
07-25-2012, 10:15 PM
Max Luckan ‏@MaxLuckan
Don’t know why ORL official said “extremely” good pitch. It was awful…

SA5195
07-25-2012, 10:16 PM
Why the hell did this diva ***** decide to opt in with the Magic a few months ago then?

Sadds The Gr8
07-25-2012, 10:16 PM
Didn't everyone know this already?

kblo247
07-25-2012, 10:16 PM
Hennigan’s pitch to Howard had a heavy focus on the two men developing a relationship that would be valuable to the Magic moving forward. He expressed a sincere interest in getting to know the six-time All-Star and working with him to improve the team. Howard, however, was expecting an outline of how the team planned to improve and get back to a championship-contending level, something he didn’t receive during the hour-long meeting, according to sources.


So you send a new GM there to try to be Dwight's friend and repair years of damage, and you don't even have a bullet list to say we will get A, B, and C done to reload around you and contend.


LMFAO and they wonder why T-Mac, Penny, and Shaq had to go … #amateurs

Vinny642
07-25-2012, 10:17 PM
Dwight is a little baby, he went from being a liked athlete to even hated worse than Lebron and Kobe for being the biggest cry baby ever.... he is an embarrassment to his family and himself.

jp611
07-25-2012, 10:17 PM
When did he change his mind he has wanted a trade since June?

About every other day since last summer he's had a change of plans... Not sure what you've seen the last year

LTBaByyy
07-25-2012, 10:19 PM
Heninigan has to grow balls and make a statement

Trade him to a bad team or let him sit out a whole year, that would embarass him

Dont cater a players needs if he doesmt want to play for your team

Set an example being a new GM

Dade County
07-25-2012, 10:19 PM
He will go wherever he is traded, I don't see how he's holding any cards. If Houston offers the best deal, knowing he said he won't resign, I'd take it. Houston's confident Howard won't leave the extra $25M they can offer with his Bird rights, and he can't go to the Lakers or the Nets next year without a sign and trade because both teams will be over the cap. He has zero leverage.

People... You think everyone goes by the same logic.

Howard can do anything he wants when he becomes a free agent, if he chooses to sign with a team for less money for one year and then resign back with that team for max money, that would probably blow you away, because you think you have everything figured out.

Everyone is different man... People do as they please, stop trying to bunch everyone together.

cheaptrikz
07-25-2012, 10:20 PM
trade his *** already

JollyRanch
07-25-2012, 10:21 PM
So you send a new GM there to try to be Dwight's friend and repair years of damage, and you don't even have a bullet list to say we will get A, B, and C done to reload around you and contend.


LMFAO and they wonder why T-Mac, Penny, and Shaq had to go #amateurs

this

kblo247
07-25-2012, 10:21 PM
the other 20 percent is where?

Just sign off

keetyweedy
07-25-2012, 10:25 PM
Not saying I cosign the way D12 is goin about handling this situation but alot yall talk about how he's a b**** or a cry baby and what not, but if you woke up tomorrow morning to seeing him traded to your team you would be ********** bricks lol

Mishmin
07-25-2012, 10:30 PM
**** Dwight Howard

KB24PG16
07-25-2012, 10:31 PM
hennigan should just get it done now

Vinny642
07-25-2012, 10:33 PM
hennigan should just get it done now

If there is no one to trade him to....

LTBaByyy
07-25-2012, 10:37 PM
hennigan should just get it done now

Obviously you say that Lakers fan

jimm120
07-25-2012, 10:37 PM
Why the hell did this diva ***** decide to opt in with the Magic a few months ago then?

because they did an extremely GOOD pitch and promised him things...which he quickly realized that were false a week after opting in.

He was stupid or just wasn't in the right mindset back then. But that is why he's so firm now. They told him to be cold and no waiver.

LTBaByyy
07-25-2012, 10:41 PM
If Lopez gets hurt again or plays bad then Nets are out

Lakers have to find a team that would trade all their young talent for Bynum (They can just sign in Free Agency) and crap contracts from Orlando

This should be interesting

D12 fan
07-25-2012, 10:43 PM
Magic should just trade him for Bynum,then flip Bynum for picks at the deadline.

sunsfan88
07-25-2012, 10:44 PM
Trade him to Charlotte for Kemba and MKG.

BigCityofDreams
07-25-2012, 10:45 PM
Magic should just trade him for Bynum,then flip Bynum for picks at the deadline.

They also need cap relief

Wray77
07-25-2012, 10:53 PM
I would trade him to Toronto, for whatever they wanted, just so he'd be taxed more.

Fred
07-25-2012, 10:55 PM
I'd give him one option, and there are two fingers on either side of it that are bent to my palm....

JollyRanch
07-25-2012, 10:55 PM
Why would other teams trade their future for Dwight Howard knowing he wouldn't resign with them. There are limited players in this Dwight Howard game

kenzo400
07-25-2012, 10:56 PM
Howard is going to LA, Bynum and Richardson are going to Houston, Kevin Martin, a couple of young prospects and Toronto's draft pick next year are going to Orlando. I have a feeling this will happen within the next two weeks, and I'd put money on it.

I don't believe Houston can trade that protected pick right away. Not sure though.

KniCks4LiFe
07-25-2012, 10:58 PM
Orlando should just trade him to Houston. You know you want that package, you sneezed at Brooklyn's package, just do it you idiots. He's flipping you off.

D12 fan
07-25-2012, 10:59 PM
They also need cap relief

I know but they have no leverage.Teams are not gonna give up a lot for a rental.Which is why I still think Dwight will get his wish and end up on LA/Brooklyn.Star players always get what they wan't and the longer this goes on the more leverage Dwight will have.What is wrong with having the 2nd best center Bynum?

ManRam
07-25-2012, 10:59 PM
I wanna send him to a Syrian professional basketball team.


Seriously...telling his team's GM what to do? **** off.

You want out? Say so, and let the team do what's best for them and figure your **** out later. You're under contract. You opted in. Man up...

ThunderousDemon
07-25-2012, 11:00 PM
Orlando should just trade him to Houston. You know you want that package, you sneezed at Brooklyn's package, just do it you idiots. He's flipping you off.

Didn't Houston just sign two of their rookies?

KniCks4LiFe
07-25-2012, 11:01 PM
Didn't Houston just sign two of their rookies?

they still have picks and pieces. From what it seems they ideally want to pair him w/ Asik and Lin. Two big defensive beast bigs an athletic core and a dynamic PG.

BigCityofDreams
07-25-2012, 11:04 PM
I know but they have no leverage.Teams are not gonna give up a lot for a rental.Which is why I still think Dwight will get his wish and end up on LA/Brooklyn.Star players always get what they wan't and the longer this goes on the more leverage Dwight will have.What is wrong with having the 2nd best center Bynum?

Apparently they want to bottom out and start over. They want to be SA/OKC. Bynum doesn't fit the mold of Duncan or Durant in terms of his maturity level.

3ballbomber
07-25-2012, 11:10 PM
Orlando fails epic proportions further if they decide to keep Howard out of spite.

I think he'll be a Laker in a couple weeks time.

seikou8
07-25-2012, 11:10 PM
315 guests and 367 in total yeah people are tired of dwight howard :rolleyes:

bearadonisdna
07-25-2012, 11:11 PM
I think the magic should hire a coach and then decide.

StarvingKnick22
07-25-2012, 11:13 PM
the other 20 percent is where?you're joking right?

Teeboy1487
07-25-2012, 11:15 PM
LOL. Dwight gave the Magic 3 choices: Lakers, Nets, or bye..

That's not even messed up anymore, it's reality. If the Magic keep choosing to keep him then that's on them.

I agree. If they are foolish enough to make the same mistake twice then they are the idiots the end of the day. I just want this crap to be over.

The goods
07-25-2012, 11:17 PM
People... You think everyone goes by the same logic.

Howard can do anything he wants when he becomes a free agent, if he chooses to sign with a team for less money for one year and then resign back with that team for max money, that would probably blow you away, because you think you have everything figured out.

Everyone is different man... People do as they please, stop trying to bunch everyone together.

Case in point look at Nash,Jamison,ray Allen,battier they all left their teams for less money to play with a team they wanted to play with, Howard doesn't want to play in Houston and he will leave the first chance he gets.

jayjay33
07-25-2012, 11:17 PM
Basically, the Lakers window to acquire Dwight is between now and January 14th. So they have over a 6-month window to work with.


Brooklyn's window to acquire Dwight is between January 15th and the 2013 Trade Deadline in mid-late February (4 days after all-star break). So they have only about a 5 week window to work with.


Anything after the trade deadline, then Mark Cuban swoops in and gets Dwight.

This.......without a doubt. I have tried to tell people on here this is how its going to be. Especially some silly rockets fans who thought he was gonna stay in Houston......When he can go to dallas. :facepalm:

KniCks4LiFe
07-25-2012, 11:18 PM
It's like a bad car accident, nothing to see here, but you still watch.

LOLS to the demand.

Lakers, Nets or Bye!

KniCks4LiFe
07-25-2012, 11:19 PM
homie is still pissed about that Amtrack.

D12 fan
07-25-2012, 11:20 PM
315 guests and 367 in total yeah people are tired of dwight howard :rolleyes:

Haha

C-Style
07-25-2012, 11:21 PM
Heninigan has to grow balls and make a statement

Trade him to a bad team or let him sit out a whole year, that would embarass him

Dont cater a players needs if he doesmt want to play for your team

Set an example being a new GM

Obviously you say that Mavericks fan

:rolleyes:

Chill_Will_24
07-25-2012, 11:30 PM
You guys are hilarious. You keep saying trade him here and trade him there when the reports clearly show Dwight has them by the balls. From the beginning it was 3 teams; Nets, Lakers, Mavs.

-He either goes to the Lakers now
-Sits out till January and gets traded to the Nets
-He becomes a free agent and signs with the Mavs

The Magic cant trade anywhere he doesnt want to go.

Moreover the ORL Magic are not innocent in any of this. They are going through this **** because they want to and because they are stupid. They refused to let him go when it has been clear for a long time Dwight has no intention of staying there. They refused to trade him to the Nets for the best package they were probably going to be offered.

To top it all off the Magic have come out of this looking like the victims when in reading between the lines one would deduce that the Magic have used and manipulated him the entire way while dragging his name through the mud. There were reports of the Magic officials drunk dialing him pleading for him to stay. There were reports that they called Dwight and used children to appeal to Dwight which was a classless move. There were reports that the Magic cornered him on a plane when his representation was not around, where they gave him the guilt trip and pressured him into signing that ETO which explains why Howard felt that he had been blackmailed.

They made all the wrong moves and ran the team to the ground while they had Dwight and even now in the last desperate attempt they make their pitch without even a coach in place? and that's how they expect to change Howard's mind!?

By all indications Howard has been patient with them and ORL blew it again and again and now want to claim they are the victims.

After everything that happened last summer with the CBA negotiations and the lockout i feel no sympathy for these "slave trader" owners and teams that treat their players like property and do them all types of wrong only to call them disloyal when the player gets fed up.

Hunter48MVP
07-25-2012, 11:30 PM
Hennigan is a dumb@!!

kblo247
07-25-2012, 11:35 PM
I wanna send him to a Syrian professional basketball team.


Seriously...telling his team's GM what to do? **** off.

You want out? Say so, and let the team do what's best for them and figure your **** out later. You're under contract. You opted in. Man up...

You don't blame Orlando for not

- Putting together the right pieces post their finals run
- not having a coach or list to show him at this meeting
- not having a list of targets to discuss at this meeting to reload the team
- your only FA moves being signing Nelson and letting Anderson go


Orlando ****ed themselves as much as Dwight ****ed them. Now you might not like him saying you got 3 choices and me staying ain't one, but it's his legal right to not be forced to extend or verbally commit to re-sign with just anyone to make the Magic get a deal they like. He doesn't owe them that at all. The opt in was stupid, and was done under naive impressions that Orlando had a plan that would be executed right then, but Dwight doesn't owe Orlando anything after they wasted years of his career after seeing them not getting it done for the career of Tracy, Shaq, and Penny

thephoenixson28
07-25-2012, 11:37 PM
Why would Houston give up assets to acquire Bynum when he can just sign with them next year.

RLundi
07-25-2012, 11:38 PM
the other 20 percent is where?


your sig has justified your comment little brother

Two of the most clueless posters on PSD.

PraiseJesus
07-25-2012, 11:39 PM
Take the Lakers option off the table.

Bynum is our man

KniCks4LiFe
07-25-2012, 11:40 PM
Why would Houston give up assets to acquire Bynum when he can just sign with them next year.

b/c it guarantee them time to make him fall in love w/ the city of Houston. And the upcoming exposure they are set to receive.

D12 fan
07-25-2012, 11:40 PM
You guys are hilarious. You keep saying trade him here and trade him there when the reports clearly show Dwight has them by the balls. From the beginning it was 3 teams; Nets, Lakers, Mavs.

-He either goes to the Lakers now
-Sits out till January and gets traded to the Nets
-He becomes a free agent and signs with the Mavs

The Magic cant trade anywhere he doesnt want to go.

Moreover the ORL Magic are not innocent in any of this. They are going through this **** because they want to and because they are stupid. They refused to let him go when it has been clear for a long time Dwight has no intention of staying there. They refused to trade him to the Nets for the best package they were probably going to be offered.

To top it all off the Magic have come out of this looking like the victims when in reading between the lines one would deduce that the Magic have used and manipulated him the entire way while dragging his name through the mud. There were reports of the Magic officials drunk dialing him pleading for him to stay. There were reports that they called Dwight and used children to appeal to Dwight which was a classless move. There were reports that the Magic cornered him on a plane when his representation was not around, where they gave him the guilt trip and pressured him into signing that ETO which explains why Howard felt that he had been blackmailed.

They made all the wrong moves and ran the team to the ground while they had Dwight and even now in the last desperate attempt they make their pitch without even a coach in place? and that's how they expect to change Howard's mind!?

By all indications Howard has been patient with them and ORL blew it again and again and now want to claim they are the victims.

After everything that happened last summer with the CBA negotiations and the lockout i feel no sympathy for these "slave trader" owners and teams that treat their players like property and do them all types of wrong only to call them disloyal when the player gets fed up.

:clap:Well said.

LTBaByyy
07-25-2012, 11:40 PM
Why would Houston give up assets to acquire Bynum when he can just sign with them next year.

Exactly.

Especially Rockets being one of his teams on his list with Mavs and Cavs

justinnum1
07-25-2012, 11:41 PM
zach lowe
Dwight opted in, his choice, to a team with no cap flexibility or game-changing trade assets. What did he think the immediate plan would be?

Who is the real idiot?



Hennigan is a dumb@!!

the dumbass is dwight for opting in

cubfan23
07-25-2012, 11:42 PM
honestly this guy is the biggest ***** in the league....i loved howard before all of this and now I hate him more than Lebron....I wish the league would step in and screw this ***** over because thats essentially what he's doing to the Magic.

KniCks4LiFe
07-25-2012, 11:43 PM
zach lowe

Who is the real idiot?




the dumbass is dwight for opting in

forgive him, no college, I blame his agent.

bholly
07-25-2012, 11:43 PM
I wanna send him to a Syrian professional basketball team.


Seriously...telling his team's GM what to do? **** off.

You want out? Say so, and let the team do what's best for them and figure your **** out later. You're under contract. You opted in. Man up...

This.

lol at 'three options'. He gave two - trade him or lose him at the end of the season.

justinnum1
07-25-2012, 11:45 PM
these are the odds i give

40%-lakers
40%-nets
20%-mavs


the other 20 percent is where?

:eyebrow:

Ty Fast
07-25-2012, 11:46 PM
Howard is going to LA, Bynum and Richardson are going to Houston, Kevin Martin, a couple of young prospects and Toronto's draft pick next year are going to Orlando. I have a feeling this will happen within the next two weeks, and I'd put money on it.

so la trades bynum for howard and houston martin for bynum and the magic get martin for howard??? only way orlando does that is if isah thomas becomes their gm.

Ty Fast
07-25-2012, 11:47 PM
zach lowe

Who is the real idiot?




the dumbass is dwight for opting in

ya no kidding

Ty Fast
07-25-2012, 11:47 PM
miami should trade bosh and 3 1sts for him

kblo247
07-25-2012, 11:48 PM
zach lowe

Who is the real idiot?




the dumbass is dwight for opting in

He was dumb, but he was more so ball less. Say what you want but there are a reason every team has a player rep that is usually a vet, players have agents, and lawyers.

Orlando knew what they were doing when they pressed him on that plane before the deadline to opt in and stay. They went after him, GM and all to talk him into it. His naive *** caved in and didn't hold firm without representation there but before that opt in, and when he had his agent and legal representation, they never once swayed him. That too is telling

ManRam
07-25-2012, 11:50 PM
You don't blame Orlando for not

- Putting together the right pieces post their finals run
- not having a coach or list to show him at this meeting
- not having a list of targets to discuss at this meeting to reload the team
- your only FA moves being signing Nelson and letting Anderson go


Orlando ****ed themselves as much as Dwight ****ed them. Now you might not like him saying you got 3 choices and me staying ain't one, but it's his legal right to not be forced to extend or verbally commit to re-sign with just anyone to make the Magic get a deal they like. He doesn't owe them that at all. The opt in was stupid, and was done under naive impressions that Orlando had a plan that would be executed right then, but Dwight doesn't owe Orlando anything after they wasted years of his career after seeing them not getting it done for the career of Tracy, Shaq, and Penny

I didn't say I didn't blame Orlando for any of that. They can do all of that because that's the front office's JOB. They can make trades, sign FAs, hire coaches when they want etc. etc. etc.

Dwight still is under contract and he opted in. He has no right to whine. He's not the GM. Just because he wants to go somewhere doesn't mean the team should do that.

The team needs to do what's best for the team, and if Dwight isn't on board with that than tough ****ing luck.


Also, he doesn't want to leave just because the team won't win right away...and if you think that's the case you're misinformed.


He's still under contract. Him telling his GM what to do is stupid.


The Magic aren't under the impression they can keep him. Hennigan going to LA was nothing but his due diligence. They'll trade him when they feel comfortable doing so. And if they never find a package, they'll let him walk and start rebuilding then.




He opted in, and is now making demands because he doesn't want to play there. If him going to LAL wasn't a possibility, you wouldn't be defending him.

kblo247
07-25-2012, 11:52 PM
If they let him walk they repeat the impression of the dumbest team in history since Shaq walked out freely. It's not a real option, they aint got those big balls. They would eat Lopez before that happens at the deadline

thephoenixson28
07-25-2012, 11:54 PM
b/c it guarantee them time to make him fall in love w/ the city of Houston. And the upcoming exposure they are set to receive.

There were reports he would resign with Houston and Mavs. Im not sure what Mavs flexibility is, but I'm sure Houston would be able to offer him the max. Lakers wouldnt be able to match cuz of the Hard cap. The only player the Lakers give up is Bynum, and he already said he wouldn't resign in Orlando, and do you think Bynum would sign a extension, knowingly he would be shopped to Orlando. Lakers don't have picks, or they can't take on any salary due to the Cap. That's why there best bet is to wait until the trade deadline to see how Lopez and brooks plays, cuz they are signed with there teams and have no choice to play. Not mention the picks they get from them. So I say this

New jersey:70%
Lakers:30%

Mr. NBA
07-25-2012, 11:54 PM
If they let him walk they repeat the impression of the dumbest team in history since Shaq walked out freely. It's not a real option, they aint got those big balls. They would eat Lopez before that happens at the deadline

if this happened, it's got to be a magic curse. just like the sam bowie, greg oden curse on the blazers.

D12 fan
07-25-2012, 11:55 PM
The sad thing is I don't see any other teams willing to gamble on trading for Dwight.The Magic have to choose between LA/Hou.

justinnum1
07-26-2012, 12:00 AM
He was dumb, but he was more so ball less. Say what you want but there are a reason every team has a player rep that is usually a vet, players have agents, and lawyers.

Orlando knew what they were doing when they pressed him on that plane before the deadline to opt in and stay. They went after him, GM and all to talk him into it. His naive *** caved in and didn't hold firm without representation there but before that opt in, and when he had his agent and legal representation, they never once swayed him. That too is telling

No way. He was looking like the bad guy and didnt want to go to the lakers. I dont buy **** that the magic forced him to sign anything. He would be in a different uniform right now if he didnt sign, nothing else needs to be said. he is a a huge idiot.

Dwight only cares about his image. He is trying to look like a good guy and get traded, doesn't work that way.

Lakeshow24KB
07-26-2012, 12:03 AM
The sad thing is I don't see any other teams willing to gamble on trading for Dwight.The Magic have to choose between LA/Hou.

But everyone makes it seem like that's a bad thing....they can get a Bynum who is the closest thing to dwight howard in this NBA or they can get a nice young package from houston....

C-Style
07-26-2012, 12:03 AM
This is what happens when a dumb *** player plays for a dumb *** owner.

Gritz
07-26-2012, 12:04 AM
perfect. i'd send him to houston then! gather as much young assets and picks you can and watch him suffer. If houston doesn't trade him at the deadline the Lakers and Nets are out of the picture. Can't do any sign and trades as they are over the cap. Dwight spit on me, I spit on you all the while they get the best assets they can. Lol

Sthu

C-Style
07-26-2012, 12:04 AM
Why would Houston give up assets to acquire Bynum when he can just sign with them next year.

Why would Bynum go to Houston when he can stay in L.A for more money?

Lakers + Giants
07-26-2012, 12:04 AM
I wonder why wavey didn't make this thread. . hmmmm. . . .

Chill_Will_24
07-26-2012, 12:06 AM
No way. He was looking like the bad guy and didnt want to go to the lakers. I dont buy **** that the magic forced him to sign anything. He would be in a different uniform right now if he didnt sign, nothing else needs to be said. he is a a huge idiot.

Dwight only cares about his image. He is trying to look like a good guy and get traded, doesn't work that way.

I would not be terribly difficult to pressure Dwight Howard, who is not very strong willed into signing on for one more year by giving him the guilt trip and sob story while his agent is not around.

Have you ever had to switch insurance agencies or had to switch phone companies? Do you know that uncomfortable awkward experience of them trying to convince you and pressure you into staying with them? Yea its pretty easy to be pressured into bad situations when you dont have someone there to help you like an agent.

GREATNESS ONE
07-26-2012, 12:07 AM
It all end soon!!!

Gritz
07-26-2012, 12:08 AM
There were reports he would resign with Houston and Mavs. Im not sure what Mavs flexibility is, but I'm sure Houston would be able to offer him the max. Lakers wouldnt be able to match cuz of the Hard cap. The only player the Lakers give up is Bynum, and he already said he wouldn't resign in Orlando, and do you think Bynum would sign a extension, knowingly he would be shopped to Orlando. Lakers don't have picks, or they can't take on any salary due to the Cap. That's why there best bet is to wait until the trade deadline to see how Lopez and brooks plays, cuz they are signed with there teams and have no choice to play. Not mention the picks they get from them. So I say this

New jersey:70%
Lakers:30%

Are you ********? Why would Bynum not resign wherever he is traded? He loses money not doing so, a lot of money; and it's not like endorsements are beating down his door.

ManRam
07-26-2012, 12:09 AM
Here's what it is.

Dwight is a member of the Orlando Magic. Dwight is under contract for the Orlando Magic. Dwight chose to opt in to stay with the Orlando Magic. The Orlando Magic have the right to do whatever they want with him. It's that simple.

Dwight can request trades or whatever, but the Magic have no obligation to do what he wants them to do. All they need to do is what's best for their team.

There's nothing more to this than that.


Dwight is no more special than Chris Duhon essentially; the Magic shouldn't treat him that way at least.

justinnum1
07-26-2012, 12:09 AM
I would not be terribly difficult to pressure Dwight Howard, who is not very strong willed into signing on for one more year by giving him the guilt trip and sob story while his agent is not around.

Have you ever had to switch insurance agencies or had to switch phone companies? Do you know that uncomfortable awkward experience of them trying to convince you and pressure you into staying with them? Yea its pretty easy to be pressured into bad situations when you dont have someone there to help you like an agent.

How do you know his agent wasn't there? Let me see the evidence? YOu think any star athlete makes a decision like that without consulting his representation? c'mon bro. I have no issue with dwight extending, but he better stfu and let the process play out. He would be in another uniform right now if he didnt opt in

Chill_Will_24
07-26-2012, 12:14 AM
How do you know his agent wasn't there? Let me see the evidence? YOu think any star athlete makes a decision like that without consulting his representation? c'mon bro. I have no issue with dwight extending, but he better stfu and let the process play out. He would be in another uniform right now if he didnt opt in

His agent was not there when Dwight signed and in fact the reprt was that Fegan refused to sign his end of the document but the Magic found a way around it so that his signature wasnt required.

Anyone have a link to this?

The rumor was that the Magic cornered him on plane when he was alone with them

C-Style
07-26-2012, 12:20 AM
Here's what it is.

Dwight is a member of the Orlando Magic. Dwight is under contract for the Orlando Magic. Dwight chose to opt in to stay with the Orlando Magic. The Orlando Magic have the right to do whatever they want with him. It's that simple.

Dwight can request trades or whatever, but the Magic have no obligation to do what he wants them to do. All they need to do is what's best for their team.

There's nothing more to this than that.


Dwight is no more special than Chris Duhon essentially; the Magic shouldn't treat him that way at least.


The issue is that no team is willing to risk losing all their good assets for a player that threatens to walk, its too much of a risk...see a player like Chris Duhon can't complain he's not that desirable.

thephoenixson28
07-26-2012, 12:22 AM
Are you ********? Why would Bynum not resign wherever he is traded? He loses money not doing so, a lot of money; and it's not like endorsements are beating down his door.
Are you stupid, he already said he wouldn't resign with them. He is still going to get a lot of money wherever he plays, and he can choose where he plays.

Gritz
07-26-2012, 12:32 AM
Are you stupid, he already said he wouldn't resign with them. He is still going to get a lot of money wherever he plays, and he can choose where he plays.

Lol yea cuz you have his number shut the hell up, if you want to go off of reports he said he will play anywhere and that there is a bank in every city. I also forgot $70 million is the same as $100 million

EasternStar
07-26-2012, 12:34 AM
Dwight, just be patient until January. You'll get to Brooklyn soon, oh so SOON!:laugh2:

shep33
07-26-2012, 12:34 AM
This whole scenario reminds me of The NeverEnding Story, but much more ********

hgtiger32
07-26-2012, 12:39 AM
Let him sit on the bench

justjames
07-26-2012, 12:40 AM
Trade Dwight to Charlotte. Let Jordan and Oakley change his mind.

Lakerhead4ever
07-26-2012, 12:42 AM
Here's what it is.

Dwight is a member of the Orlando Magic. Dwight is under contract for the Orlando Magic. Dwight chose to opt in to stay with the Orlando Magic. The Orlando Magic have the right to do whatever they want with him. It's that simple.

Dwight can request trades or whatever, but the Magic have no obligation to do what he wants them to do. All they need to do is what's best for their team.

There's nothing more to this than that.


Dwight is no more special than Chris Duhon essentially; the Magic shouldn't treat him that way at least.

whoa. you are truly a genius

LA_Raiders
07-26-2012, 12:44 AM
trade his *** already...

numba1CHANGsta
07-26-2012, 12:46 AM
The Magic WILL NOT let him walk for nothing.
The Magic WILL NOT wait til the trade deadline to trade him, the longer they wait, the worse the team's chemistry gets.
The Magic WILL trade Dwight before the season starts, whether its Dwight for Bynum straight up, or a third team, will be involved.

keetyweedy
07-26-2012, 12:46 AM
His agent was not there when Dwight signed and in fact the reprt was that Fegan refused to sign his end of the document but the Magic found a way around it so that his signature wasnt required.

Anyone have a link to this?

The rumor was that the Magic cornered him on plane when he was alone with them

Not saying your lying but I need proof of this to believe it, actors, athletes, entertainers etc. 99% of the time either have there lawyer or agent present when signing ANYTHING... Its a easy way to get screwed over

jayjay33
07-26-2012, 12:48 AM
There were reports he would resign with Houston and Mavs. Im not sure what Mavs flexibility is, but I'm sure Houston would be able to offer him the max. Lakers wouldnt be able to match cuz of the Hard cap. The only player the Lakers give up is Bynum, and he already said he wouldn't resign in Orlando, and do you think Bynum would sign a extension, knowingly he would be shopped to Orlando. Lakers don't have picks, or they can't take on any salary due to the Cap. That's why there best bet is to wait until the trade deadline to see how Lopez and brooks plays, cuz they are signed with there teams and have no choice to play. Not mention the picks they get from them. So I say this

New jersey:70%
Lakers:30%

Are you ********? Why would Bynum not resign wherever he is traded? He loses money not doing so, a lot of money; and it's not like endorsements are beating down his door.

Your crazy if you think you can trade Bynum "anywhere" and he will resign.

Iceman_9
07-26-2012, 12:48 AM
Hennigan thinks that Dwight will change his mind coz he is now the man in the office. He is as dumb as his predecessor.

GREATNESS ONE
07-26-2012, 12:51 AM
Who wants Bynum ? Houston or Cleveland..

keetyweedy
07-26-2012, 12:51 AM
The Magic WILL NOT let him walk for nothing.
The Magic WILL NOT wait til the trade deadline to trade him, the longer they wait, the worse the team's chemistry gets.
The Magic WILL trade Dwight before the season starts, whether its Dwight for Bynum straight up, or a third team, will be involved.

They need a third team, LAL doesn't have the cap space to do a straight trade D12 for Bynum + Bynum has already said he wont resign w/ Orlando so there is no interest there

thephoenixson28
07-26-2012, 12:52 AM
Lol yea cuz you have his number shut the hell up, if you want to go off of reports he said he will play anywhere and that there is a bank in every city. I also forgot $70 million is the same as $100 million

You shut the **** up. Do you have his number, so you think he would sign with any team cuz of the money. Your freakin crazy. I have reports what the hell do you have.

ThunderousDemon
07-26-2012, 12:54 AM
They need a third team, LAL doesn't have the cap space to do a straight trade D12 for Bynum + Bynum has already said he wont resign w/ Orlando so there is no interest there

When did he or his agent say that? Bynum's agent even came out and said that the so called list of teams he would re-sign with are false and that he never had a list to begin with.

thephoenixson28
07-26-2012, 12:55 AM
They need a third team, LAL doesn't have the cap space to do a straight trade D12 for Bynum + Bynum has already said he wont resign w/ Orlando so there is no interest there
Also no for Clevland. Which probably had the pieces to offer. Houston has the pieces but why would you help a trade for someone that would end up in the Western Conference, you give up assets for someone that you can probably sign cuz he would be a Unrestricted Free agent.

EasternStar
07-26-2012, 12:58 AM
Funny Dwight Gif:
http://i.imgur.com/fbZAy.gif

#1chickhearnfan
07-26-2012, 01:00 AM
:catfight::catfight::catfight::catfight::catfight: :catfight::catfight:

THE MTL
07-26-2012, 01:01 AM
I honestly dont think Dwight Howard said this. Ppl get so fooled by the media. Its obvious he wants out, but you have to admit that some of these stories are far-fetched.

LA_Raiders
07-26-2012, 01:01 AM
Funny Dwight Gif:
http://i.imgur.com/fbZAy.gif

lol

thephoenixson28
07-26-2012, 01:02 AM
When did he or his agent say that? Bynum's agent even came out and said that the so called list of teams he would re-sign with are false and that he never had a list to begin with.

There is a lot of reports out there, cuz if Bynum would agree to a extension. Howard would already be a laker.

keetyweedy
07-26-2012, 01:03 AM
When did he or his agent say that? Bynum's agent even came out and said that the so called list of teams he would re-sign with are false and that he never had a list to begin with.

He didnt but Chris Broussard did....



http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/8200628/sources-dwight-howard-reiterates-desire-traded-orlando-magic-gm-rob-hennigan

"However, sources have told Broussard that Bynum likely would not sign an extension anywhere else but with the Lakers this summer because it benefits him financially to wait until after the season so he can get a longer, more lucrative deal."

Aust
07-26-2012, 01:04 AM
No **** he said NO. smh the Magic didn't even have a ****ing gameplan for todays meeting with him.

I got my money on him getting traded in two weeks, but you never know what the Magic might pull out of their ***


So you send a new GM there to try to be Dwight's friend and repair years of damage, and you don't even have a bullet list to say we will get A, B, and C done to reload around you and contend.


LMFAO and they wonder why T-Mac, Penny, and Shaq had to go #amateurs

THIS


LOL. Dwight gave the Magic 3 choices: Lakers, Nets, or bye..

That's not even messed up anymore, it's reality. If the Magic keep choosing to keep him then that's on them.

ThunderousDemon
07-26-2012, 01:06 AM
There is a lot of reports out there, cuz if Bynum would agree to a extension. Howard would already be a laker.

That turned out to be false.


http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/8182707/agent-teams-gauge-andrew-bynum-interest-extension-making-trades

http://espn.go.com/blog/los-angeles/lakers/post/_/id/32076/dwupdate-bynums-agent-says-call-first

keetyweedy
07-26-2012, 01:07 AM
Also no for Clevland. Which probably had the pieces to offer. Houston has the pieces but why would you help a trade for someone that would end up in the Western Conference, you give up assets for someone that you can probably sign cuz he would be a Unrestricted Free agent.

Im from Houston and take it from me, they dont care if he stays or not they are just trying to sell tickets and bring a little more spotlight back to houston, Morey knows he wont stay so im pretty sure that he would probably try to use him as well but outside of BK and LAL there isnt really any team out thats willing to take that chance

EasternStar
07-26-2012, 01:08 AM
Another Funny One Coming UP!:
http://i.imgur.com/DRgJr.gif

Mave1002
07-26-2012, 01:09 AM
Howard is going to LA, Bynum and Richardson are going to Houston, Kevin Martin, a couple of young prospects and Toronto's draft pick next year are going to Orlando. I have a feeling this will happen within the next two weeks, and I'd put money on it.

It's gonna be the longest two weeks for me........

EasternStar
07-26-2012, 01:14 AM
THE GRAND FINALE! My Favorite:
http://i.imgur.com/ASEyo.gif

ThornMo
07-26-2012, 01:15 AM
to be fair dwight isn't declining a trade to any team. he's just being honest in telling teams he won't resign with them. i don't see anything wrong with that.

ThunderousDemon
07-26-2012, 01:16 AM
THE GRAND FINALE! My Favorite:
http://i.imgur.com/ASEyo.gif

None of those were remotely funny.

thephoenixson28
07-26-2012, 01:24 AM
Im from Houston and take it from me, they dont care if he stays or not they are just trying to sell tickets and bring a little more spotlight back to houston, Morey knows he wont stay so im pretty sure that he would probably try to use him as well but outside of BK and LAL there isnt really any team out thats willing to take that chance

Hahaha. I was actually talking about Bynum. He named 3 teams he would resign with Dallas,Houston, and Clevland. Then his agent shot down Clevland. So my thought is if Houston offered bynum the max next year, they don't have to give up anything. So the teams that are mentioned for Bynum and Howard

Orlando-Bynum won't resign

Lakers-Not enough prieces to get Howard

Clevland-Bynum won't resign

Houston-Howard wont resign,+ They can offer Bynum the max so why would you give up peices to get him.

So the most logical option is New jersey at the trade deadline. They can how Lopez looks, not to mention other players. They have the picks to get it done. They might be low picks, but better than nothing.

People need to stop speaking as fans, and look at the actual picture.

EasternStar
07-26-2012, 01:24 AM
None of those were remotely funny.

Hmmm, no sense of humor huh?:pity:

Hunter48MVP
07-26-2012, 01:24 AM
Why did Howard give the Magic three options instead of two. The last option still gives hope for the stupid and brainless Magic front office to acquire a superstar to pair with Howard and hope to resign with the team. Please trade him now not during the season

ThunderousDemon
07-26-2012, 01:25 AM
Hmmm, no sense of humor huh?:pity:

I do have a sense of humor, but let's keep it real. :D

Aust
07-26-2012, 01:28 AM
You guys are hilarious. You keep saying trade him here and trade him there when the reports clearly show Dwight has them by the balls. From the beginning it was 3 teams; Nets, Lakers, Mavs.

-He either goes to the Lakers now
-Sits out till January and gets traded to the Nets
-He becomes a free agent and signs with the Mavs

The Magic cant trade anywhere he doesnt want to go.

Moreover the ORL Magic are not innocent in any of this. They are going through this **** because they want to and because they are stupid. They refused to let him go when it has been clear for a long time Dwight has no intention of staying there. They refused to trade him to the Nets for the best package they were probably going to be offered.

To top it all off the Magic have come out of this looking like the victims when in reading between the lines one would deduce that the Magic have used and manipulated him the entire way while dragging his name through the mud. There were reports of the Magic officials drunk dialing him pleading for him to stay. There were reports that they called Dwight and used children to appeal to Dwight which was a classless move. There were reports that the Magic cornered him on a plane when his representation was not around, where they gave him the guilt trip and pressured him into signing that ETO which explains why Howard felt that he had been blackmailed.

They made all the wrong moves and ran the team to the ground while they had Dwight and even now in the last desperate attempt they make their pitch without even a coach in place? and that's how they expect to change Howard's mind!?

By all indications Howard has been patient with them and ORL blew it again and again and now want to claim they are the victims.

After everything that happened last summer with the CBA negotiations and the lockout i feel no sympathy for these "slave trader" owners and teams that treat their players like property and do them all types of wrong only to call them disloyal when the player gets fed up.

Well said man


Also no for Clevland. Which probably had the pieces to offer. Houston has the pieces but why would you help a trade for someone that would end up in the Western Conference, you give up assets for someone that you can probably sign cuz he would be a Unrestricted Free agent.

The conference point is overrated. I'd think that with Dwight vehemently not wanting to go to Houston, Houston could get Bynum while not giving up as much, which aint bad.
Bias Laker fan opinion though

nicegoing
07-26-2012, 01:28 AM
:yawn:

Losoway
07-26-2012, 01:29 AM
i know dwight will end up in brooklyn .

take Brook lopez Kris Humpries and Brooks plus draft picks or end up with Bynum aka dwight situation part 2 . yea

hello brooklyn

EasternStar
07-26-2012, 01:30 AM
I do have a sense of humor, but let's keep it real. :D

Alright dude. Sweet Avatar by the way.

keetyweedy
07-26-2012, 01:31 AM
Hahaha. I was actually talking about Bynum. He named 3 teams he would resign with Dallas,Houston, and Clevland. Then his agent shot down Clevland. So my thought is if Houston offered bynum the max next year, they don't have to give up anything. So the teams that are mentioned for Bynum and Howard

Orlando-Bynum won't resign

Lakers-Not enough prieces to get Howard

Clevland-Bynum won't resign

Houston-Howard wont resign,+ They can offer Bynum the max so why would you give up peices to get him.

So the most logical option is New jersey at the trade deadline. They can how Lopez looks, not to mention other players. They have the picks to get it done. They might be low picks, but better than nothing.

People need to stop speaking as fans, and look at the actual picture.

Exactly

thephoenixson28
07-26-2012, 01:35 AM
Well said man



The conference point is overrated. I'd think that with Dwight vehemently not wanting to go to Houston, Houston could get Bynum while not giving up as much, which aint bad.
Bias Laker fan opinion though

The would have to give up picks, young talent, or take on salary for a deal to happen. No matter what that would mess up there future plans. Wether it's to sign a free agent in the future, or there pick they send out to orlando becomes a stud. Bynum listed Houston as a team he would resign with, so I think why wouldnt sign there as a free agent. Worse thing that can happen is they miss out on Bynum, but at least they still have cap relief and picks.

Vinny642
07-26-2012, 01:36 AM
i know dwight will end up in brooklyn .

take Brook lopez Kris Humpries and Brooks plus draft picks or end up with Bynum aka dwight situation part 2 . yea

hello brooklyn

LOL kinda funny

LoveMeOrHateMe
07-26-2012, 01:37 AM
trade his *** already

That sig!!! The 2 best ever! The rock #1

thephoenixson28
07-26-2012, 01:43 AM
i know dwight will end up in brooklyn .

take Brook lopez Kris Humpries and Brooks plus draft picks or end up with Bynum aka dwight situation part 2 . yea

hello brooklyn

If Howard gets traded to the Lakers the proposed deal would look like this

Howard, and Jrich for Bynum and Metta world peace

But in true reality it's going to look like this

Howard and Jrich for Metta world peace

That's why they should've dealed with New jersey along time ago. Thats why Orlando and LA want to get a 3rd team involved to take on salary while giving up picks. They want to double rape a team with no lube.

WickedBadMan
07-26-2012, 01:47 AM
Obviously should wait until deadline now, see how Bynum and Lopez hold up. Plus tell Dwight to take his time with recovery to assist tanking for a lottery pick.

piratepete
07-26-2012, 01:57 AM
at this point the way hes acting i wouldnt want the cry baby on my team you dont even no if coming back from bad back hes going to be worth it i would first wait and see how he plays before signing him to max contract , plus he mite change his mind again then you have a cancer on your team

Aust
07-26-2012, 02:02 AM
Bynum listed Houston as a team he would resign with, so I think why wouldnt sign there as a free agent.

Contrary to what people may think, Bynum loves LA. If the Lakers still have him, I'm 99% confident they could get him to resign. Having his bird rights doesn't hurt.
Heck, there are reports the Lakers are working on an extension with him right now. The Lakers are the only team he'd even consider extending with. He'd obv rather resign for more dough

thephoenixson28
07-26-2012, 02:03 AM
at this point the way hes acting i wouldnt want the cry baby on my team you dont even no if coming back from bad back hes going to be worth it i would first wait and see how he plays before signing him to max contract , plus he mite change his mind again then you have a cancer on your team

Shoot I would. Cry as long as he wants, if he is putting up 20+ points, and 15+ rebounds. Just as long as he signs a extension of course. Hahahaha

thephoenixson28
07-26-2012, 02:06 AM
Contrary to what people may think, Bynum loves LA. If the Lakers still have him, I'm 99% confident they could get him to resign. Having his bird rights doesn't hurt.
Heck, there are reports the Lakers are working on an extension with him right now. The Lakers are the only team he'd even consider extending with. He'd obv rather resign for more dough
True, and with the current team you have, I have you guys #2 best record in the NBA, and I hate the freakin lakers. But I don't see him signing just yet, unless he has some kind of trade kicker, or No trade clause.

Losoway
07-26-2012, 02:09 AM
dwight is very smart . he knows bynum wants no parts to do with orlando . so he takes away the only leverage the lakers have in getting him. and basically forces his way to brooklyn

Hello brooklyn

Aust
07-26-2012, 02:09 AM
I don't understand why more players don't have no trade contracts. The only one's I've heard of are Kobe and Dirk.
You'd think Lopez would force the Nets into giving him one..

NBA-GMaster
07-26-2012, 02:11 AM
I think Rockets would be the 3rd team, Martin, Patterson,Douglas, Toronto's 1st pick, Dallas' 1st pick and Charlotte's 2nd pick for Bynum, Richardson and Blake

Howard,Davis and Duhon to LA
Rockets' assets, plus McRoberts, Ebanks and a future LA 1st pick to Orlando

lakerboy
07-26-2012, 02:17 AM
I don't understand why more players don't have no trade contracts. The only one's I've heard of are Kobe and Dirk.
You'd think Lopez would force the Nets into giving him one..

You have to be with your team for like 8 years before getting the no trade clause, and you have to be an unrestricted free agent that is resigning. You cannot get the no trade clause if you sign an extension.

Whomewhome
07-26-2012, 02:17 AM
I want Dwight more then the next Nets fan.,,, I want him. But this is all on him

He should have kept his mouth shut, and play out his FA this year like Deron...or LBJ, Bosh etc...

I am tired of superstars demanding stuff.... be it Dwight or any other. Wherever he ends up I have lost respect for him

C-Style
07-26-2012, 02:19 AM
This whole summer should just be talks on how to get Dwight to L.A it's gonna involve these 3 scenarios:

Lakers-Cavs-Magic
Lakers-Rockets-Magic
Lakers-Magic

Unless another 3rd team gets involved to get Bynum. If it gets passed training camp, then expect this to be a 2 team race between Nets & Lakers with Nets leading the way.

ThunderousDemon
07-26-2012, 02:20 AM
dwight is very smart . he knows bynum wants no parts to do with orlando . so he takes away the only leverage the lakers have in getting him. and basically forces his way to brooklyn

Hello brooklyn

LMAO :laugh2: You never stop trolling do you?

C-Style
07-26-2012, 02:35 AM
Hahaha. I was actually talking about Bynum. He named 3 teams he would resign with Dallas,Houston, and Clevland. Then his agent shot down Clevland. So my thought is if Houston offered bynum the max next year, they don't have to give up anything. So the teams that are mentioned for Bynum and Howard

Orlando-Bynum won't resign

Lakers-Not enough prieces to get Howard

Clevland-Bynum won't resign

Houston-Howard wont resign,+ They can offer Bynum the max so why would you give up peices to get him.

So the most logical option is New jersey at the trade deadline. They can how Lopez looks, not to mention other players. They have the picks to get it done. They might be low picks, but better than nothing.

People need to stop speaking as fans, and look at the actual picture.

However Lee denied that Bynum had a list of preferred destinations, saying he and Bynum chuckled when they read reports while on vacation in Alaska last week indicating he had already made such decisions.

"I looked at it and he looked it and we both wondered where it came from," Lee said.


BTW Bynum will never choose Houston over L.A

Losoway
07-26-2012, 02:36 AM
LMAO :laugh2: You never stop trolling do you?

im stating facts. bynum straight up said he would not sign with the magics . if am the magics why would i give up dwight howard for another dwight howard situation?? to please the laker fans on psd ??? :facepalm:

its either rockets rent him for a year and brooklyn in january

GREATNESS ONE
07-26-2012, 02:40 AM
Tampering.

Bynum will sign long-term contracts w/ Cle & Hou for max money and years.

C-Style
07-26-2012, 02:40 AM
im stating facts. bynum straight up said he would not sign with the magics . if am the magics why would i give up dwight howard for another dwight howard situation?? to please the laker fans on psd ??? :facepalm:

its either rockets rent him for a year and brooklyn in january


"I am often puzzled as to the basis of an article. I am particularly puzzled with that one," Lee said. "When I read it, I was in Alaska with Andrew and his family. I have no clue who he could have been talking to. I was taken aback by the list, considering there is nobody in anybody's camp he could've been talking to. I have no idea where that came about."


That was not fact, it was more like FALSE, Drew was in Alaska, he never put out any statements about any teams... As u can read the quote above, Lee, debunked that article about Bynum

By the way Rockets will rather take Bynum who they have a better shot at re-signing instead of Dwight who has made it very clear he would walk away from.

Lakers- Rockets- Magic...those are gonna be the 3 teams that are going to get this deal done. book it

GREATNESS ONE
07-26-2012, 02:41 AM
im stating facts. bynum straight up said he would not sign with the magics . if am the magics why would i give up dwight howard for another dwight howard situation?? to please the laker fans on psd ??? :facepalm:

its either rockets rent him for a year and brooklyn in january

You're going to be mad soon lol

Losoway
07-26-2012, 02:45 AM
Bynum agent clearly said 'teams should really speak with us before they do any trades" if thats not telling to magics we dont want you . i dont know what is

and where are you guys getting this fictional 3 team trade . its nothing happening

Dade County
07-26-2012, 02:46 AM
miami should trade bosh and 3 1sts for him

Only if he signs some legal document that he will resin with the HEAT at the end of the season :D

I don't trust that mans word for ****.

Aust
07-26-2012, 02:51 AM
You have to be with your team for like 8 years before getting the no trade clause, and you have to be an unrestricted free agent that is resigning. You cannot get the no trade clause if you sign an extension.

Interesting, thanks for the info

Sssmush
07-26-2012, 02:53 AM
With Bynum going free agent, and a Gasol trade possible, Blake, MWP trades or amnesties possible, Lakers COULD get under the cap to sign Dwight to a non-Bird max contract (4 years at 95% of max or whatever) in free agency.

Lakers can get there. I really don't think Brooklyn can. I really don't think Johnson or Lopez are realistically tradeable. I also don't think that Brooklyn can pull off a trade for Dwight in January.

I'd say this looks like great news for the Lakers, however I still highly doubt that Orlando will be willing to trade Dwight anytime soon, if at all.

Orlando seems to want back A TON of value for Dwight, and DeVos in all likelihood refuses to accept the idea of trading Dwight. Sorry, that is just reality.

Orlando will REALLY have to make some compromises and come down on price, otherwise it just goes the distance. Not worried about the Houston thing. And remember, Houston CAN swap Howard's bird rights for Bynum's after the season as well.

This is good Laker news, but I don't expect anything to happen on this for a few months, except, oh yeah, like a zillion media stories about it.

Sssmush
07-26-2012, 02:58 AM
im stating facts. bynum straight up said he would not sign with the magics . if am the magics why would i give up dwight howard for another dwight howard situation?? to please the laker fans on psd ??? :facepalm:

its either rockets rent him for a year and brooklyn in january

why would any player sign with the Magics at this point, unless they are just trying to get a start in the league? It's not even a question

Zefflin
07-26-2012, 02:59 AM
yikes, more waiting, garbage...

C-Style
07-26-2012, 03:00 AM
Bynum agent clearly said 'teams should really speak with us before they do any trades" if thats not telling to magics we dont want you . i dont know what is

and where are you guys getting this fictional 3 team trade . its nothing happening



Last week, Lee told ESPNLosAngeles.com that it would be "foolish" for any team to trade for his client without first speaking to Bynum to gauge his interest in signing an extension or long-term contract.

The Lakers so far have not granted the Cleveland Cavaliers, Houston Rockets, Magic or any team permission to speak directly with Bynum or his representatives.

Lee also denied that Bynum had a list of preferred destinations, saying he and Bynum chuckled when they read reports while on vacation in Alaska last week indicating he already had made such decisions.



How is that telling the Magic they are not interested? He's just telling them they are open to listen to their pitch.




Laker Nation ‏@***********
Dwight Howard to the Lakers will need a third team. Don’t see Bynum going to Orlando and helping the rebuild process. Rockets ideal 3rd team



The Rockets have the best package of assets that the Magic feel comfortable moving forward with, but since Howard has made it known he could always bolt to Dallas if Houston attempts to use his Bird Rights as a way to keep him, there’s little incentive for the Rockets to give Orlando anything close to what it wants.

Los Angeles can’t get Howard on its own because an Andrew Bynum package potentially puts the Magic in the same position they were in this afternoon. Orlando doesn’t want to sell its vision to any 7-footer that’s not under contract, but also wants no part of Brook Lopez or Kris Humphries, which means the Nets are out, even if Jan. 15 was Aug. 15 or March 15. Orlando and Brooklyn traded medical reports on their centers and talked in circles, but those talks yielded nothing that’s expected to change in the future.

As a result, the Lakers and Magic both need the Rockets, with Howard doing any potential three-way no favors at the moment. At least Bynum has said he’s amenable to calling Houston home.

Meanwhile, the Magic lose a lot if Howard comes to training camp. For starters, it would be a distraction and a horrible influence on those that want to be there, since the environment that Hennigan and coach-to-be Jacque Vaughn want to instill is ingrained in teamwork and no one being greater than the whole. Doesn’t exactly fit with Howard moping about being held hostage by the opt-in he signed.

They can pay him to stay away, but then everyone loses, basketball included. Howard does have a joy for the game, never being one to sit out unless he absolutely has to.



Orlando won’t lose him for nothing, so they’re going to trade him. That’s certain. Howard won’t re-sign. Houston is taking a harder stance, because it can and should. The Lakers are playing the waiting game, because there’s no other option for them. Bynum is chilling. Has been. Will continue to. Chill, that is.

Welcome to limbo. As expected, it’s hellish and ugly.


Adrian Wojnarowski

The Cleveland Cavaliers and Houston are willing to be third-team trade partners for the Magic and Lakers in deals that would send them All-Star center Andrew Bynum.

FOBolous
07-26-2012, 03:07 AM
if i wasn't concerned about Bynum's knee, as a Rockets fan, I would want Bynum over Dwight Howard. I can't stand Howard.

jayjay33
07-26-2012, 03:07 AM
Im from Houston and take it from me, they dont care if he stays or not they are just trying to sell tickets and bring a little more spotlight back to houston, Morey knows he wont stay so im pretty sure that he would probably try to use him as well but outside of BK and LAL there isnt really any team out thats willing to take that chance

Hahaha. I was actually talking about Bynum. He named 3 teams he would resign with Dallas,Houston, and Clevland. Then his agent shot down Clevland. So my thought is if Houston offered bynum the max next year, they don't have to give up anything. So the teams that are mentioned for Bynum and Howard

Orlando-Bynum won't resign

Lakers-Not enough prieces to get Howard

Clevland-Bynum won't resign

Houston-Howard wont resign,+ They can offer Bynum the max so why would you give up peices to get him.

So the most logical option is New jersey at the trade deadline. They can how Lopez looks, not to mention other players. They have the picks to get it done. They might be low picks, but better than nothing.

People need to stop speaking as fans, and look at the actual picture.



So in your picture Bynum takes less money to leave lal and go to Houston? You must be blind. Most people on here already understand the only way for Houston to get Bynum is to trade for him, there by removing lal from his options.

But there are 2 or 3 people on here who don't get this. An have this dumb *** idea that Houston can just sign Bynum as a FA away from the lakers, which is just absurd. I think its you who does not see the actual picture.

GREATNESS ONE
07-26-2012, 03:11 AM
if i wasn't concerned about Bynum's knee, as a Rockets fan, I would want Bynum over Dwight Howard. I can't stand Howard.

Don't be concerned. He's bigger and stronger now. His knees will hold up fine and he'll only get better, Houston should be all over trying to get Bynum (especially knowing he'll sign long-term)

jayjay33
07-26-2012, 03:12 AM
i know dwight will end up in brooklyn .

take Brook lopez Kris Humpries and Brooks plus draft picks or end up with Bynum aka dwight situation part 2 . yea

hello brooklyn

If Howard gets traded to the Lakers the proposed deal would look like this

Howard, and Jrich for Bynum and Metta world peace

But in true reality it's going to look like this

Howard and Jrich for Metta world peace

That's why they should've dealed with New jersey along time ago. Thats why Orlando and LA want to get a 3rd team involved to take on salary while giving up picks. They want to double rape a team with no lube.

Better than orlando doing that dumb *** deal, and getting stuck with Lopez and humphries with those contracts. Lol......only nets fans think that's a good.

Kevj77
07-26-2012, 03:16 AM
Basically, the Lakers window to acquire Dwight is between now and January 14th. So they have over a 6-month window to work with.


Brooklyn's window to acquire Dwight is between January 15th and the 2013 Trade Deadline in mid-late February (4 days after all-star break). So they have only about a 5 week window to work with.


Anything after the trade deadline, then Mark Cuban swoops in and gets Dwight.This is probably the reality. Orlando has no leverage. He isn't coming back Howard has had it with Orlando. Cuban will be drooling with his cap space and Dirk to sell Howard on.

The Rockets want to get Howard now so they can trade him for Bynum or the Nets deal or be a part of a 3 team trade to land those assests at or before the trade deadline. They want to rebuild. They've been stuck as the 9th seed three years in a row in the west. Not good enough to make the playoffs and not bad enough to get lottery picks.

Nets will be a player again once they can trade Lopez.

There is no reason for the Lakers to be desperate Bynum is the 2nd best center in the NBA. They aren't giving up Pau too.

Nobody else will give up good assets for a rental. Orlando is backed into a corner with no leverage.

Aust
07-26-2012, 03:19 AM
How is that telling the Magic they are not interested? He's just telling them they are open to listen to their pitch.








Adrian Wojnarowski

Well written and informative :clap:

shep33
07-26-2012, 03:21 AM
if i wasn't concerned about Bynum's knee, as a Rockets fan, I would want Bynum over Dwight Howard. I can't stand Howard.

I've said this multiple times now. If Drew does go to Houston, he's going to put up huge numbers. I couldn't think of a better place for him to go (big Bynum fan myself). Learning under McHale and Hakeem, and being the primary offensive option. Kid can still get a lot better.

GREATNESS ONE
07-26-2012, 03:23 AM
Damn he would improve so much with Hakeem it's not even funny

5ass
07-26-2012, 03:26 AM
andrew bynum doesnt give a ****
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIhTeh3UYtw&feature=player_embedded

C-Style
07-26-2012, 03:28 AM
I love Bynum but unfortunately, his offense is not what Lakers need. Lakers are good offensively, they need that defensive anchor in Dwight, not saying Bynum's presence is not great defensively, it's as good as Dwights when he tries. But Dwight brings it every night. That's the only reason most Laker fans want Dwight over Bynum, nothing to do with his knees.

GREATNESS ONE
07-26-2012, 03:29 AM
^^ sheeeesh

FOBolous
07-26-2012, 03:31 AM
I love Bynum but unfortunately, his offense is not what Lakers need. Lakers are good offensively, they need that defensive anchor in Dwight, not saying Bynum's presence is not great defensively, it's as good as Dwights when he tries. But Dwight brings it every night. That's the only reason most Laker fans want Dwight over Bynum, nothing to do with his knees.

lol we don't have any offense right now. we have a whole bunch of rookies + Asik and Lin. We need whatever offense we can get.

C-Style
07-26-2012, 03:34 AM
^^ sheeeesh

agree to disagree?

GREATNESS ONE
07-26-2012, 03:35 AM
lol we don't have any offense right now. we have a whole bunch of rookies + Asik and Lin. We need whatever offense we can get.

And it's exactly why Bynum would make sense. With 15-25 touches/shots a night Drew is averaging easily over 25pts a game plus he seems to hustle a lot more when he gets the ball so add in 10-14 rebounds and 1-3 blocks a night.

Gonna miss the Big Fella and if he does end up getting traded I'm going to wish and hope him the best. He's the real deal.

GREATNESS ONE
07-26-2012, 03:36 AM
agree to disagree?

Not you my friend. The video above your post, you just posted a split second faster then me :) and why I changed it to two ^^ lol instead of keeping it at one

Losoway
07-26-2012, 03:43 AM
andrew bynum doesnt give a ****
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIhTeh3UYtw&feature=player_embedded

lmaooooooooooooooooooo

C-Style
07-26-2012, 03:44 AM
lol we don't have any offense right now. we have a whole bunch of rookies + Asik and Lin. We need whatever offense we can get.

haha I hear ya, Had Bynum been surrounded with a better defensive and or younger Laker squad. Id be saying: "Dwight who?" But Kobe is not young anymore, Nash needs a defensive anchor, Gasol is not an enforcer like a Garnett, and Metta is not the great defender he used to be. Only reason I want Dwight to be honest.

Losoway
07-26-2012, 03:44 AM
the laker fans are still talking about dwight is coming .

lmao

GREATNESS ONE
07-26-2012, 03:45 AM
Guess we'll see :D

michael811
07-26-2012, 03:47 AM
its basically down to the Lakers or the Mavs for dwight. If the Magic can't work out some kind of deal with the Lakers they would be better off just letting Dwight leave in free agency to the Mavs then get stuck with Lopez on a max contract if they do a deal with the nets

C-Style
07-26-2012, 03:54 AM
the laker fans are still talking about dwight is coming .

lmao

Can't be worst than a Nets fan doing so...oops!

C-Style
07-26-2012, 03:57 AM
its basically down to the Lakers or the Mavs for dwight. If the Magic can't work out some kind of deal with the Lakers they would be better off just letting Dwight leave in free agency to the Mavs then get stuck with Lopez on a max contract if they do a deal with the nets

Yeah Nets don't have a shot. The best offer they can possibly get is based around Bynum, They already turned down that ****** offer by Nets, nothing will change by Jan. So if they don't make a trade with Lakers, Cuban came up!

Aust
07-26-2012, 03:59 AM
The Nets have a shot. If the Magic drag this **** out and the Nets showcase Lopez who has the potential, it might be able to entice the Magic to trade him January 15th.

As a Laker fan, I hope it doesn't come to this.

C-Style
07-26-2012, 04:28 AM
The Nets have a shot. If the Magic drag this **** out and the Nets showcase Lopez who has the potential, it might be able to entice the Magic to trade him January 15th.

As a Laker fan, I hope it doesn't come to this.

Lopez is still gonna rebound no more than 7rbs, he is still not gonna be over 55% shooter, Hes not gonna become great defensivly, Humphries is still gonna be a overpaid role player and those picks are still gonna suck. Nothing will change.

jimm120
07-26-2012, 04:43 AM
The bean offer was the nets deal at the deadline.

Orlando was correct in canceling the original deal atthe start of the season with the nets simply cause the pick would be much closer to #1 and Brooks wasn't in the deal since he "wasn't anything".

By waiting for the deadline, they got a better pick and Brooks added to the deal.

Unfortunately, They didn't take the deal.

Now they pretty much have 4 options, all weaker:

1- let Dwight walk and get nothing.

2- trade for Bynum or whatever the lakers can get for Bynum (which is less than what Howard is worth). Last year of deal.

3- wait till January and trade him to the nets, but now Lopez has a bloated contract, as does humphries (though only two years), litter pick...who knows if it's a lottery pick or a pick in the high teens.

4- send him wherever they want (not necessarily la or nets) for a pick and expirings/trade excemptions if someone is willing to give up that 1 pick.

Aust
07-26-2012, 06:20 AM
^:confused:
They werent ever going to get a fair deal in terms of value to begin with, especially now that they're in a hole having let this drag out for so long.

rapjuicer06
07-26-2012, 08:09 AM
Orlando will not send him to the Nets. Its Lakers, and Lakers only at this point it seems

TrAv=MaGiCfReAk
07-26-2012, 08:30 AM
Lakers or rockets

nets will only be leverage if anything come Jan

Brink182
07-26-2012, 08:49 AM
i think they Should make a trade with TNT Shaq for Howard Straight Up.

:laugh:

I would trade him to the Bobcats and tell him to GTFO

BobbyHillSwag
07-26-2012, 08:50 AM
Knicks gonna get dwight Book it

thenaj17
07-26-2012, 09:00 AM
Heninigan has to grow balls and make a statement

Trade him to a bad team or let him sit out a whole year, that would embarass him

Dont cater a players needs if he doesmt want to play for your team

Set an example being a new GM

Pretty sure the owner wouldn't allow that to happen unless it was Cuban. Why set your franchise back 5-10 years when you can get some really nice assets to start rebuilding with?

thephoenixson28
07-26-2012, 09:00 AM
Better than orlando doing that dumb *** deal, and getting stuck with Lopez and humphries with those contracts. Lol......only nets fans think that's a good.

Bynum averages 12 points 8 rebounds in his 7th season

Lopez averages 18 points 7 rebounds in his 4th season

Bynum has 1 good year, and people think they can trade him for Howard straight up. Hahaha. There is a reason so many laker fans wanted Bynum off of the team, even if it didn't land them Howard. They should've done New jerseys deal

Lopez max contract
Humphries 2 year contract

WTH does Lakers have to offer, if Bynum walks they have nothing to show for it. Just mine as well let Dwight walk. Or they can wait until the trade deadline and see how Lopez plays.

TrAv=MaGiCfReAk
07-26-2012, 09:00 AM
Knicks have nothing the magic want... no cap relief and over paid players like stat and Tyson .... but hey you can dream man

Gandalf
07-26-2012, 09:04 AM
I don't get why they don't just trade him he is not going so unless they want what Cleveland got for Lebron and to be irrelevant for the distant future they should seriously deal him

eternal slumber
07-26-2012, 09:09 AM
Hennigan must dig deep and have the balls to trade him before the season start, even before training camp because this will get more more uglier every day it passes by.

deal him to the Lakers in a three team deal with Houston and live with it.

thephoenixson28
07-26-2012, 09:11 AM
If anything why doesn't the Mavs put a deal up, knowingly that he would resign with them. Just sayin

BigCityofDreams
07-26-2012, 09:17 AM
If anything why doesn't the Mavs put a deal up, knowingly that he would resign with them. Just sayin

They have nothing to offer

Aust
07-26-2012, 09:17 AM
If anything why doesn't the Mavs put a deal up, knowingly that he would resign with them. Just sayin

:facepalm: They don't have anything..

They're going to get the best offer from LA/HOU in a 3-team trade

eternal slumber
07-26-2012, 09:18 AM
If anything why doesn't the Mavs put a deal up, knowingly that he would resign with them. Just sayin

because they don't have the assets to do so.

the best thing the Mavs can hope is that Howard will play through the season with the Magic and becomes a free agent, which i highly doubt Orlando will do such a thing.

D12 fan
07-26-2012, 09:19 AM
Lakers or rockets

nets will only be leverage if anything come Jan

I told you all along that Orlando would lose leverage the longer this goes on.

Good to see you now finally realize the Magic has lost leverage.:clap:

LongIslandIcedZ
07-26-2012, 09:27 AM
So basically the only team right now with a legit offer to Orlando is Houston. Unfortunately, Dwight wants nothing to do with Houston. So now Orlando basically has to settle for Houston's offer for Bynum. That wont be too bad, still a ton better than anything Brooklyn, Dallas or anyone else wants to offer.

D12 fan
07-26-2012, 09:28 AM
Andrew Bynum is Orlando's best offer.