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Station 13
07-23-2012, 07:32 PM
Monday: LHP Felix Doubront (10-4, 4.24) vs. RHP Scott Feldman (3-6, 5.89), 8:05 p.m., NESN, ESPN

Tuesday: RHP Clay Buchholz (8-3, 5.19) vs. RHP Colby Lewis (6-6, 3.43), 8:05 p.m., NESN, MLB Network

Wednesday: RHP Josh Beckett (5-8, 4.53) vs. LHP Derek Holland (6-5, 4.84), 8:05 p.m., NESN

AI
07-23-2012, 07:33 PM
Time to get swept and officially start the fire sale, yeah buddy.

Station 13
07-23-2012, 07:39 PM
Time to get swept and officially start the fire sale, yeah buddy.

top 5 pick :cool:

Nomar
07-23-2012, 07:42 PM
More like time to win this series magically, gain a little faith, then completely throw that faith in the trash in another end of the year stumble.

Either way sounds like a typical year. Funny, you think of the Sox as a typically winning club but we havent made the playoffs in forever, and havent done **** in them since 07.

Nomar
07-23-2012, 07:43 PM
In what scenario could we get a top 5 pick though? Haha you got me curious Station.

AI
07-23-2012, 07:45 PM
Finish with one of the 5 worst records is the only way, don't see that happening.

Station 13
07-23-2012, 07:46 PM
Finish with one of the 5 worst records is the only way, don't see that happening.

Unlikely. But top 10 is likely with how they are playing. The team is winning .300 when lester/beckett starts. About 25 starts left between them.

Nomar
07-23-2012, 07:53 PM
Haha even top 10 wont happen. Pipe dream. Speaking of pipe dreams, i think i will daydream about AI's trade idea with Texas at work this week. I wish you were the GM AI!

Station 13
07-23-2012, 07:56 PM
game is on ESPN3 no blackout.

Station 13
07-23-2012, 07:57 PM
Haha even top 10 wont happen. Pipe dream. Speaking of pipe dreams, i think i will daydream about AI's trade idea with Texas at work this week. I wish you were the GM AI!

At the record stand, I think we have a protected pick.

Nomar
07-23-2012, 08:03 PM
If we have a protected pick we would have to do a bit of selling and virtually no buying at the deadline. Buchholz has been a lot better than you give him credit for. We need a ringer for a bad record, Weiland v2?

Station 13
07-23-2012, 08:13 PM
Crawford look bad there.

Nomar
07-23-2012, 08:15 PM
DFA Crawford and sign MacDime

Station 13
07-23-2012, 08:15 PM
DFA Crawford and sign MacDime

MacDime get 20M?

B'sCeltsPatsSox
07-23-2012, 08:30 PM
Yay!

Station 13
07-23-2012, 08:30 PM
Salty Smash!

j-bay
07-23-2012, 08:30 PM
Salty!

j-bay
07-23-2012, 08:32 PM
haha cruz did it again just like game 6 last world series

Station 13
07-23-2012, 08:33 PM
Middlebrooks start to hit to RF again

penuch
07-23-2012, 08:48 PM
Dubront is absolutely dealing right now.

Crucis
07-23-2012, 08:58 PM
Well, Salty's had 2 HR's since he came back from his short rest. Seems to have done him some good!

Station 13
07-23-2012, 09:23 PM
top 5 pick :cool:

:cool:

AI
07-23-2012, 09:25 PM
Fire sale beginning in 3... 2... 1...

Petertherock
07-23-2012, 09:28 PM
You are living in denial if you don't expect them to drop 3 to Texas.

AI
07-23-2012, 09:51 PM
Feldman is owning us folks, I repeat, Scott ****ing Feldman.

Station 13
07-23-2012, 09:56 PM
Crawford is money down the drain.

Nomar
07-23-2012, 10:22 PM
I think its funny that Bobby V leaves the starter in too long every single game. Tito it was the opposite generally. He lets 2 more runs score off of the starter consistently. Lester yesterday, Buchholz in Tampa.... stop trying to stretch innings out of your starters when your bullpen is your strongpoint.

bagwell368
07-23-2012, 10:27 PM
Hey nice error Crawford...

SirHizz
07-23-2012, 10:28 PM
Wow, I have no idea what's wrong with Crawford. Seems like he can't play in Boston to save his life. Even his fielding is a mess...and that's supposed to be one of his biggest assets.

Just bite the bullet and get Hanley back, for the love of god.

Nomar
07-23-2012, 10:28 PM
Hey nice error Crawford...

Your favorite player doing everyones favorite things.

Station 13
07-23-2012, 10:29 PM
We have him till 2017 LMAO

B'sCeltsPatsSox
07-23-2012, 10:31 PM
:sad2: Blow it up

Nomar
07-23-2012, 10:31 PM
Wow, I have no idea what's wrong with Crawford. Seems like he can't play in Boston to save his life. Even his fielding is a mess...and that's supposed to be one of his biggest assets.

Just bite the bullet and get Hanley back, for the love of god.

I'm down for that at this point... **** it. But i really doubt its that simple.

How about a megadeal for Hanley and JJ? That would shake the team up pretty good hahaha

SirHizz
07-23-2012, 10:33 PM
If we ever needed a "wake up game" to realize the situation we are in, this is it. Don't have to look further than our record against +.500 teams.

My preference: S-E-L-L-I-N-G! Imagine what we could get for some guys when teams trade their top-prospects for 2 months of Dempster and Sanchez

Nomar
07-23-2012, 10:35 PM
You know your pitching is awful when you have to count on Doubront to give you wins for curcial games. Honestly, i dont care what they do with anybody on this team.

Pedroia, Ortiz and AGon are givens, theyre staying. I would keep Buchholz too.

But literally every other player can bite the dust for all i care. Clean house, this team reeks of losing.

Station 13
07-23-2012, 10:38 PM
WMB don't pull. Hit one to RF.

AI
07-23-2012, 10:49 PM
Is this another bridge year? We never got the memo, Lucchino trolled us to perfection.

NYY_NYK4
07-23-2012, 10:50 PM
Not being a troll but with the added wild card and so many teams in the hunt, imagine the prospects the sox would get for a lester, beckett, ellsbury etc....just a thought.

tc2deuce
07-23-2012, 10:51 PM
No leadership on this team at all and I am slowly turning my finger on Bobby too!!

AI
07-23-2012, 10:51 PM
Not being a troll but with the added wild card and so many teams in the hunt, imagine the prospects the sox would get for a lester, beckett, ellsbury etc....just a thought.

Hope that Cherington hears you, most of us here want us to sell.

If the Cubs got Delgado for a rental like Dempster, we could fleece them in a deal for Lester.

tc2deuce
07-23-2012, 11:01 PM
Feldman is owning us folks, I repeat, Scott ****ing Feldman.

This says it all:facepalm::facepalm:

Nomar
07-23-2012, 11:04 PM
Bobby isnt anything special, but i cant sit here and point my finger at him.

The starting pitchers just flat out blow. Its yesteryear. Starters are 27th in the MLB in ERA. That wont do pig

Station 13
07-23-2012, 11:06 PM
Should Tazawa start?

grandsalami
07-23-2012, 11:07 PM
Bobby isnt anything special, but i cant sit here and point my finger at him.

The starting pitchers just flat out blow. Its yesteryear. Starters are 27th in the MLB in ERA. That wont do pig

would ANY manager be doing a better job then BV, Im not a big BV fan, but he is like #900 on things wrong with the sox.... I actually feel bad for him and the **** he needs to deal with

Sweet_Caroline
07-23-2012, 11:09 PM
Looks like I missed another exciting game.

Petertherock
07-23-2012, 11:13 PM
Great game and great win! For Tejas!

AI
07-23-2012, 11:19 PM
Looks like I missed another exciting game.

Think this will have to be my new routine, can't take it anymore.

Nomar
07-23-2012, 11:24 PM
would ANY manager be doing a better job then BV, Im not a big BV fan, but he is like #900 on things wrong with the sox.... I actually feel bad for him and the **** he needs to deal with

Same

Station 13
07-23-2012, 11:24 PM
If they add more ***** without taking 3-4 turds off, this ship will blow.

Nomar
07-23-2012, 11:26 PM
Im with you guys. Im a college kid working 9 hours a day during his summer to come home and watch this team blow. It just makes my daily 4 hours of sleep seem oh so much shorter lol. Im not a fairweather fan, but i have better **** to do at this point.

AI
07-23-2012, 11:28 PM
Rebuild, please Ben, fill the clubhouse with dynamite and blow this team apart. Start from scratch.

Sweet_Caroline
07-23-2012, 11:28 PM
Im with you guys. Im a college kid working 9 hours a day during his summer to come home and watch this team blow. It just makes my daily 4 hours of sleep seem oh so much shorter lol. Im not a fairweather fan, but i have better **** to do at this point.

The independent league team I intern for is more exciting than this bunch.

BSF101
07-23-2012, 11:29 PM
This team is a F'N joke I knew that mini winning streak against the White Sox was, too good to be true. God I hope they get beat from now on.

SirHizz
07-23-2012, 11:47 PM
Well, no matter what happens, either selling or buying, I don't have lots of faith in Ben's trading skills. Looks like he got burnt on every trade so far.

But really, is it possible that a team (way) over the luxury tax is THAT bad? I mean dead last in the division and only better than 3 other teams in the AL? I think Theo should be ashamed of himself for that mess he left behind.

EEasyA
07-24-2012, 12:05 AM
I could give a **** less about this team.i don't even watch the games anymore.I tune in just to check the score and if we up i might watch it.I remember when i use to watch every red sox game with passion and loved every red sox player.Not anymore.

The only untouchables on this team are Gonzo,Pedi and WM.That's it.

EEasyA
07-24-2012, 12:09 AM
and i fill the same way about Cherrington.he strikes me as a LL puppet.No balls.We shall if he proves me wrong and everyone else.i doubt it.

Sweet_Caroline
07-24-2012, 12:11 AM
We need the "good job, good effort" kid.

Bo Sox Fan
07-24-2012, 12:31 AM
Offseason Wishlist:

1. Trade for a legit starter.

2. Sign a legit starter through free agency.

3. Upgrade the starting rotation.

Station 13
07-24-2012, 12:34 AM
Offseason Wishlist:

1. Trade for a legit starter.

2. Sign a legit starter through free agency.

3. Upgrade the starting rotation.

$250M payroll?

bruins>habs
07-24-2012, 08:10 AM
Yankees need an outfielder.....They get stronger and add Ichiro, a guy who should perform better in hitter friendly Yankee stadium

Tigers need a pitcher and a second baseman....They get a good pitcher who compliment Verlander nicely and a productive second baseman in Infante.

Red Sox need a new 1-2 punch at the top of the rotation and more consitency.....They get, well they didn't get anything........They need to just blow it up and start from scratch, i would watch them more if they did that....I would rather watch them suck with a bunch of young kids (a la the Oakland A's who are very intriguing to watch, their starting pitching makes me drool :drool:) than watch them suck with this bunch of hacks.

speaking of oakland's pitching staff, what would it take to get any one of Parker, Griffin, Millone, Anderson (injured) or Dallas Braden (injured)

1_FrozenNetsFan
07-24-2012, 12:51 PM
I think I'm done for this season...I can't see the RS going anywhere...I'm in the "sell" camp and I'll hope that the deals made are for the future...not a patch for now.

Boston-Born
07-24-2012, 04:47 PM
Sean McAdam ‏@Sean_McAdam
Sox v TEX: Ellsbury CF; Ciriaco DH; Pedroia 2B; Gonzalez 1B; Ross RF; Middlebrooks 3B; Crawford LF; Shoppach C; Aviles SS; Buchholz. P

Sure Craw is going to love seeing Ciriaco batting second.

papipapsmanny
07-24-2012, 08:22 PM
so sick of ****ing Valentine such an *** clown

why move Crawford to 7 already? I really can't stand this guy

bosox1899
07-24-2012, 08:35 PM
so sick of ****ing Valentine such an *** clown

why move Crawford to 7 already? I really can't stand this guy

I can't stand you guys always finding something to ***** about towards valentine. Crawford once again is sucking and texas has a left handed pitcher out there. Valentine isn't managing just to make crawford happy but to make the whole team successful.

papipapsmanny
07-24-2012, 08:41 PM
I can't stand you guys always finding something to ***** about towards valentine. Crawford once again is sucking and texas has a left handed pitcher out there. Valentine isn't managing just to make crawford happy but to make the whole team successful.

finding something? Valentine serves it up to us on a platter on a nightly basis because he is straight up stupid.

So you are saying Ciriaco>Crawford is that what I am to understand? Its not like Crawford has played in like 6 games or so this season or anything.

bosox1899
07-24-2012, 08:47 PM
finding something? Valentine serves it up to us on a platter on a nightly basis because he is straight up stupid.

So you are saying Ciriaco>Crawford is that what I am to understand? Its not like Crawford has played in like 6 games or so this season or anything.

No he's not but you make your lineup based on the pitching matchup, not just because Crawford likes batting second. Ellsbury leads off (Lefty vs. Lefty), then Ciriaco who's a righty and has speed goes next, etc... There's no use having 4 lefties in a row against a left handed pitcher, it just makes the chances of any rallies smaller. If Valentine keeps crawford in 7th for the remainder of the season then I may have a qualm with him but one game is nothing to complain about.

bagwell368
07-24-2012, 09:10 PM
If that was Andrus at SS, he wouldn't have gotten an error... BS

Nomar
07-24-2012, 09:22 PM
Our team is 24th in total walks drawn. Thats probably why we hardly ever scores runs without the longball.

Aviles cant catch a break.

Nomar
07-24-2012, 09:35 PM
Beltre is the man

Crucis
07-24-2012, 09:52 PM
Damn, that was a fine play by Beltre on Ciriaco's outstanding bunt. (A bunt made even more impressive because the ball was riding inside on the kid...)

Crucis
07-24-2012, 10:32 PM
Hmmm.... Crawford got replaced by Nava to start the bottom of the 7th. Wonder why? It's probably something innocuous and normal. But could it be that a trade is on the verge of getting done? Hmmmmmm? ;)

Nomar
07-24-2012, 10:33 PM
Hmmm.... Crawford got replaced by Nava to start the bottom of the 7th. Wonder why? It's probably something innocuous and normal. But could it be that a trade is on the verge of getting done? Hmmmmmm? ;)

stop dude youre gonna give me a boner

Nomar
07-24-2012, 10:35 PM
no way he got traded lol theres been no wind of it and hes 0 for his last 14

Greenmonster24
07-24-2012, 10:37 PM
He foul a pitch off himself I think thats why

Crucis
07-24-2012, 10:37 PM
stop dude youre gonna give me a boner

:laugh:

Nomar
07-24-2012, 10:39 PM
Crawford hit a ball off of his ****ing shin. Wow.... buzzkill. Hes probably going to have to miss a year from it. He's still in the dugout so def no trade :(

B'sCeltsPatsSox
07-24-2012, 11:01 PM
Everyone got my hopes high for nothing regarding Crawford:sigh:

Nomar
07-24-2012, 11:02 PM
Everyone got my hopes high for nothing regarding Crawford:sigh:

I think everyone should get Obama to force Crawford to get traded and in return we can all give him our vote. I would do it

Bo Sox Fan
07-24-2012, 11:18 PM
Carl Crawford makes Vernon Wells look like a perennial All-Star.

Nomar
07-24-2012, 11:18 PM
Thank god! He owed us after that choke earlier!

B'sCeltsPatsSox
07-24-2012, 11:19 PM
Oh. My. God. They're winning.

Nomar
07-24-2012, 11:20 PM
Oh. My. God. They're winning.

"For now..." said Alfredo Aceves said with a creepy *** grin.

TedWilliams9
07-24-2012, 11:21 PM
How long will this last? Two runs to win in Texas?

BoSox47
07-24-2012, 11:22 PM
Why would bobby v bench ciriaco and put punto in the on deck circle. I know lefty vs right but puntos not even batting .200 and you just put ciriaco in the 2 spot today cause he has been producing with the bat.

Nomar
07-24-2012, 11:23 PM
I dont know what was more surprising though, the fact that Aviles clutched that or AGon showed emotion.

Bo Sox Fan
07-24-2012, 11:23 PM
And that is why Mike Aviles is, and always will be more valuable than Jose Iglesias in the Major Leagues.

Offence > Defence

Nomar
07-24-2012, 11:24 PM
And that is why Mike Aviles is, and always will be more valuable than Jose Iglesias in the Major Leagues.

Offence > Defence

Offense and Defense***

But Iglesias is garbage i wouldnt trade a bagged lunch for him.

BoSox47
07-24-2012, 11:30 PM
wow we won....

Nomar
07-24-2012, 11:31 PM
They said it was impossible, but the Red Sox have won a game of baseball.

Shortstop Mike Aviles came in to today with an OPS under .700 but left with Jenny Dell.

TedWilliams9
07-24-2012, 11:32 PM
wow, good pitching..

SirHizz
07-24-2012, 11:34 PM
The Sox obviously don't like not being a .500 team. Great win, that's how it's supposed to be, Buchholz did great.

Nomar
07-24-2012, 11:35 PM
Padilla has more wins than Cliff Lee what up

Bo Sox Fan
07-24-2012, 11:39 PM
Clay Buchholz wins the starting rotation "Employee of the Month" award for July.

He's baaaack! Until he hit's the DL with back issues again.

Station 13
07-24-2012, 11:46 PM
Clay doing great. 2.40 ERA last 8 starts.

Crucis
07-25-2012, 12:19 AM
I dont know what was more surprising though, the fact that Aviles clutched that or AGon showed emotion.

Well, I wouldn't diss Aviles too much. He has 51 RBI's thru 98 games, which is 3rd on the team so I have to imagine that he's actually had a pretty fair number of clutch hits along the way this season.

BSF101
07-25-2012, 12:23 AM
They got lucky in this game.

TedWilliams9
07-25-2012, 01:33 AM
A Rod broke his hand, I watched it live. They were hitting everyone

SirHizz
07-25-2012, 02:55 AM
Clay Buchholz wins the starting rotation "Employee of the Month" award for July.


Yeah, but basically by no contest

Melo15
07-25-2012, 08:58 AM
Awesome to see Clay stepping up for us

gustofer1
07-25-2012, 01:34 PM
Yeah, but basically by no contest

I lol'd, so true. Although it is good to see at least one of our starters pitching like they should. At this point, do you guys think Beckett's gonna get moved? Are we officially sellers yet??

Sportfan
07-25-2012, 02:54 PM
On the brightside, New York finally gets NESN onFios!!! I'll be able to go through the pain too guys

Station 13
07-25-2012, 02:55 PM
On the brightside, New York finally gets NESN onFios!!! I'll be able to go through the pain too guys

Aren't the games still black out?

cocossox
07-25-2012, 06:19 PM
sadly i have zero faith in beckett tonight.:(

Nomar
07-25-2012, 06:26 PM
Beckett vs Holland battle of the bums

B'sCeltsPatsSox
07-25-2012, 06:38 PM
Aren't the games still black out?

Yeah I've got YES and Yankee games aren't shown on there.

Nomar
07-25-2012, 07:01 PM
New avatar, looking fresh as hell.

AI
07-25-2012, 08:09 PM
Time to watch Holland own us.

gustofer1
07-25-2012, 08:10 PM
I like tonight's line-up, just wish Aviles could get some AB's higher in the order against LHP.

Sweet_Caroline
07-25-2012, 08:11 PM
Nice AB by Ells

Station 13
07-25-2012, 08:11 PM
Ells had that stolen damnit

Sweet_Caroline
07-25-2012, 08:12 PM
Shocking to see that Ciriaco will pretty soon have the same/worse stats than Aviles. Oh wait no it's not.

Sweet_Caroline
07-25-2012, 08:13 PM
I'm sorry Pedro

Station 13
07-25-2012, 08:13 PM
1st and 3rd no out.........Do we score?

Sweet_Caroline
07-25-2012, 08:14 PM
1st and 3rd no out.........Do we score?

Kind of

Station 13
07-25-2012, 08:14 PM
uhhhhhhhh ****

gustofer1
07-25-2012, 08:14 PM
I'm sorry Pedro

heh

He won't hit as many HR's for sure, but he will steal more bases. For instance, right now he's got second in the bag.

And yes we're gonna freakin' score, Pedey's at the plate! :cool:

*edit* not the way I imagined it..

Sweet_Caroline
07-25-2012, 08:15 PM
A Beltre/Padilla fight would be awesome.

Station 13
07-25-2012, 08:16 PM
Ross eyeblack #swagger

Station 13
07-25-2012, 08:17 PM
Kind of

At least they score. Usually that's a K then the double play.

AI
07-25-2012, 08:18 PM
What's wrong with Pedey this year? Laser show is M.I.A. :(

gustofer1
07-25-2012, 08:19 PM
+/- 2 ER's in the first inning from Beckett?

I got the -

Sweet_Caroline
07-25-2012, 08:24 PM
I call push. Two run bomb from someone.

gustofer1
07-25-2012, 08:24 PM
perfect throw from Shoppach

Sweet_Caroline
07-25-2012, 08:24 PM
Shop helping his trade value

Station 13
07-25-2012, 08:25 PM
Beckett's 2 seamer is moving.

AI
07-25-2012, 08:26 PM
If the 1st inning is any indication, despite the good results, Beckett's going to get rocked tonight.

Can't hit his spots and is leaving the ball up. Hopefully this gets better as the game goes along.

1_FrozenNetsFan
07-25-2012, 08:26 PM
I dont know what was more surprising though, the fact that Aviles clutched that or AGon showed emotion.

I noticed that too...Kinda reminds me of Chief...R Parrish

good to see he's got something inside that makes him smile once in a while:clap:

Sweet_Caroline
07-25-2012, 08:27 PM
I think Beckett just hates Salty

gustofer1
07-25-2012, 08:28 PM
Shop helping his trade value

Who do you think he's going to end up with? I don't think there's a team I know of, other than the Pirates or Washington(?) who need a catcher of any kind. Maybe the Dodgers?

Station 13
07-25-2012, 08:28 PM
I think Beckett just hates Salty

Beckett has reason to be salty.

Station 13
07-25-2012, 08:29 PM
WTF Crawford

Sweet_Caroline
07-25-2012, 08:29 PM
What. The. ****

AI
07-25-2012, 08:31 PM
Should we just call MLB and declare that everytime that it's CC's turn to hit, we make him an automatic out? Just put it down as a weak GB to 1B/2B on the box-score.

Sweet_Caroline
07-25-2012, 08:33 PM
Should we just call MLB and declare that everytime that it's CC's turn to hit, we make him an automatic out? Just put it down as a weak GB to 1B/2B on the box-score.

No he likes to keep things exciting by mixing in the "pop up a bunt to he catcher like an ***hat"

Sweet_Caroline
07-25-2012, 08:35 PM
HanRam just hit a triple (badly misplayed by the CFer) I wish we could've duped the Marlins into that trade.

Sweet_Caroline
07-25-2012, 08:36 PM
Who is this "Andrew Bailey" guy they speak of?

AI
07-25-2012, 08:37 PM
HanRam just hit a triple (badly misplayed by the CFer) I wish we could've duped the Marlins into that trade.

We could've, decided not to.

AI
07-25-2012, 08:38 PM
Who is this "Andrew Bailey" guy they speak of?

Isn't he the new intern?

Station 13
07-25-2012, 08:54 PM
Our OF can't throw.

Sweet_Caroline
07-25-2012, 08:58 PM
Beltre time

AI
07-25-2012, 08:59 PM
Did that just happen? :faint:

1_FrozenNetsFan
07-25-2012, 09:01 PM
Bet the Rangers feel like we do so often...snake bit!

Crucis
07-25-2012, 09:02 PM
Did that just happen? :faint:

Did WHAT just happen?

Sweet_Caroline
07-25-2012, 09:05 PM
Free Willy!!!

Station 13
07-25-2012, 09:05 PM
Wmb!

AI
07-25-2012, 09:05 PM
Beckett didn't allow the runners to score, that's been his biggest problem this year.

Middlebrooks with a bomb.

Sweet_Caroline
07-25-2012, 09:05 PM
Dang now CC is up.

Crucis
07-25-2012, 09:05 PM
WMB goes yard!!! 2-0 Sox!

1_FrozenNetsFan
07-25-2012, 09:05 PM
Hello wmb !!

Sweet_Caroline
07-25-2012, 09:06 PM
Solid stuff right there.

AI
07-25-2012, 09:07 PM
God, can we please hit the "undo" option on the Crawford contract? Pretty please.

Station 13
07-25-2012, 09:10 PM
Ross.............damnit

gustofer1
07-25-2012, 09:11 PM
God, can we please hit the "undo" option on the Crawford contract? Pretty please.

If an "amnesty clause" type deal existed, I'd rather use it on Lackey. Give Crawford some time, even though he's a total waste of a massive contract and doesn't fit a good plan for our LF spot, he should rebound to resemble himself at least somewhat from his TB days.

Sweet_Caroline
07-25-2012, 09:14 PM
How awesome would it be if someone put in a claim on Crawford during August?

Sweet_Caroline
07-25-2012, 09:14 PM
Why can't we get players like Murphy?

AI
07-25-2012, 09:14 PM
If an "amnesty clause" type deal existed, I'd rather use it on Lackey. Give Crawford some time, even though he's a total waste of a massive contract and doesn't fit a good plan for our LF spot, he should rebound to resemble himself at least somewhat from his TB days.

Rather have a pitcher who can give me 200 innings than an LF who can't get on-base to save his life.

gustofer1
07-25-2012, 09:16 PM
How awesome would it be if someone put in a claim on Crawford during August?

Wouldn't we still have to pay him? I thought waiver-wire deals meant the team acquiring said Crawful would only have to pay him a minimal salary..? Or is that basketball??

AI
07-25-2012, 09:16 PM
I'm going to check out Murphy's numbers against us, he always kills us.

gustofer1
07-25-2012, 09:17 PM
Rather have a pitcher who can give me 200 innings than an LF who can't get on-base to save his life.

Like Beckett or Lester? No, thanks, I'll take the guy who COULD steal 50 bases and hit 20 homers if his wrist/elbow weren't jacked all to hell.

Crucis
07-25-2012, 09:17 PM
If an "amnesty clause" type deal existed, I'd rather use it on Lackey. Give Crawford some time, even though he's a total waste of a massive contract and doesn't fit a good plan for our LF spot, he should rebound to resemble himself at least somewhat from his TB days.

Sorry, not even close. I'd undo the CC contract 10 times out of 10 over the Lackey contract.

AI
07-25-2012, 09:17 PM
Wouldn't we still have to pay him? I thought waiver-wire deals meant the team acquiring said Crawful would only have to pay him a minimal salary..? Or is that basketball??

We either work out a trade with the team that claims him or we let him go to with the other team taking on his contract.

Station 13
07-25-2012, 09:17 PM
Wouldn't we still have to pay him? I thought waiver-wire deals meant the team acquiring said Crawful would only have to pay him a minimal salary..? Or is that basketball??

Nope. Waiver claimer take whole contract.

Sweet_Caroline
07-25-2012, 09:17 PM
Yeah even though Lackey is a turd, eating innings is valuable.

Station 13
07-25-2012, 09:18 PM
Crawford is the worst contract in pro sports.

AI
07-25-2012, 09:19 PM
Like Beckett or Lester? No, thanks, I'll take the guy who COULD steal 50 bases and hit 20 homers if his wrist/elbow weren't jacked all to hell.

We're talking about Crawford right? Can't be the same Crawford I'm talking about, you know, the one who plays for the Boston Red Sox.

Station 13
07-25-2012, 09:19 PM
**** knew that was coming

gustofer1
07-25-2012, 09:19 PM
Nope. Waiver claimer take whole contract.

Well, then, that would be f*dging fantastic!

Sweet_Caroline
07-25-2012, 09:20 PM
I would rather get the out then the probable gapper.

Crucis
07-25-2012, 09:22 PM
Wouldn't we still have to pay him? I thought waiver-wire deals meant the team acquiring said Crawful would only have to pay him a minimal salary..? Or is that basketball??

No, if a team puts in a claim on a waiver in August, and the owning player doesn't pull the player back, the claiming team is stuck with the player and 100 of his salary. That's what happened when the ChiSox put in a claim on Alex Rios.

Sweet_Caroline
07-25-2012, 09:22 PM
JD Drew would've caught that. But seriously he would have.

Station 13
07-25-2012, 09:22 PM
Ross wtf

AI
07-25-2012, 09:22 PM
Ross is awful in RF, and people have the nerve to say that Beckett hasn't been unlucky this year, smh.

Station 13
07-25-2012, 09:23 PM
This OF is terribad.

Sweet_Caroline
07-25-2012, 09:23 PM
This inning could be even worse if Ron Washington wasn't an idiot.

1_FrozenNetsFan
07-25-2012, 09:24 PM
Josh can't stand prosperity it seems...Team gives him a 2 run cushion and he goes out and blows it the next inning

Station 13
07-25-2012, 09:24 PM
Ross is a DH

gustofer1
07-25-2012, 09:25 PM
Well at least the Rangers' version of CC is up. We'll be out of this before you know it.

gustofer1
07-25-2012, 09:26 PM
Ross is a DH

Think he could play LF full time better than CC? Move Crawford to CF when Ells is traded this winter??

Sweet_Caroline
07-25-2012, 09:26 PM
We might get a rally going this inning Cindy Crawford isn't due up for awhile.

Sweet_Caroline
07-25-2012, 09:27 PM
Crawford's psyche couldn't handle a move to CF. He has to hit 2nd and play LF.

AI
07-25-2012, 09:30 PM
I'm going to check out Murphy's numbers against us, he always kills us.

I was right, his career numbers vs Boston are as follows:

.352/.408/.571, .979 OPS

Melo15
07-25-2012, 09:30 PM
Crawford's psyche couldn't handle a move to CF. He has to hit 2nd and play LF.

He's such a stud :love:

Station 13
07-25-2012, 09:30 PM
Crawford's psyche couldn't handle a move to CF. He has to hit 2nd and play LF.

lol what a princess

1_FrozenNetsFan
07-25-2012, 09:31 PM
And talking about inning eaters...Becket is eating innings...is that what we want???

Station 13
07-25-2012, 09:32 PM
God, work the ****ing count.

Melo15
07-25-2012, 09:33 PM
God, work the ****ing count.

Stop yelling, you're making a scene!

Sweet_Caroline
07-25-2012, 09:36 PM
Webgem by Cindy!

Station 13
07-25-2012, 09:36 PM
Stop yelling, you're making a scene!

when you yell on the internet, noone can hear you.

Melo15
07-25-2012, 09:37 PM
Cash money

Melo15
07-25-2012, 09:37 PM
Stop yelling, you're making a scene!

when you yell on the internet, noone can hear you.

Ma, the meatloaf!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sweet_Caroline
07-25-2012, 09:44 PM
Pedey!!!!

1_FrozenNetsFan
07-25-2012, 09:45 PM
Alrighty Pedey....even up now!

Crucis
07-25-2012, 09:50 PM
Wouldn't we still have to pay him? I thought waiver-wire deals meant the team acquiring said Crawful would only have to pay him a minimal salary..? Or is that basketball??

You're confused. If the Sox cut Crawford and some other team picked him up, the other team would only pay league minimum, while the Sox would be stuck paying the rest of his salary.

But in the case of a team claiming a player off of waivers, the claiming team becomes responsible for the claimed player's entire contract.

Crucis
07-25-2012, 09:52 PM
Crawford is the worst contract in pro sports.

It wouldn't be quite so bad if CC was playing up to his historical norms. And Vernon Wells' contract may be just about as bad or worse.

Sweet_Caroline
07-25-2012, 10:00 PM
I like the spinning swing.

Station 13
07-25-2012, 10:03 PM
Instead of pulling there WMB, hit that oppofield.

Station 13
07-25-2012, 10:03 PM
Crawford need to go away and never come back.

SirHizz
07-25-2012, 10:05 PM
Well, can't we just trade CC for Cliff Lee? Lee is more expensive, but his contract is shorter? Please do something, I can't take it anymore.

Sweet_Caroline
07-25-2012, 10:06 PM
Crawford need to go away and never come back.

He's like MacDime/herpes they always come back.

Melo15
07-25-2012, 10:06 PM
I like the spinning swing.

It truly is a thing of beauty.

Sweet_Caroline
07-25-2012, 10:06 PM
Well, can't we just trade CC for Cliff Lee? Lee is more expensive, but his contract is shorter? Please do something, I can't take it anymore.

Ruben Amaro is crazy so you never know.

Melo15
07-25-2012, 10:07 PM
Well, can't we just trade CC for Cliff Lee? Lee is more expensive, but his contract is shorter? Please do something, I can't take it anymore.

Ruben Amaro is crazy so you never know.

He'd accept if we throw in Padilla.

Sweet_Caroline
07-25-2012, 10:10 PM
No deal if we trade Padilla he's likely to kidnap Jenny and Wally.

Melo15
07-25-2012, 10:12 PM
Nick Punto is already working security in case that situation arises.

Sweet_Caroline
07-25-2012, 10:19 PM
I blame Salty

B'sCeltsPatsSox
07-25-2012, 10:19 PM
Game:sad2:

Sweet_Caroline
07-25-2012, 10:19 PM
Nick Punto is already working security in case that situation arises.

The SHREDDER!

AI
07-25-2012, 10:20 PM
Beckett and Bobby V strike again, dynamic duo.

1_FrozenNetsFan
07-25-2012, 10:21 PM
Apparently Josh was worried the Rangers might not score so he hit one aboard and then wild pitched him home...nice guy that Josh doncha think?

Sweet_Caroline
07-25-2012, 10:21 PM
Lol at the fat kid running thinking it was a home run

1_FrozenNetsFan
07-25-2012, 10:21 PM
Inning eater...sho nuff

Melo15
07-25-2012, 10:22 PM
It's certainly a bold strategy.

Sweet_Caroline
07-25-2012, 10:22 PM
Apparently Josh was worried the Rangers might not score so he hit one aboard and then wild pitched him home...nice guy that Josh doncha think?

And everyone keeps saying he has a bad personality. Psh

Melo15
07-25-2012, 10:23 PM
Lol at the fat kid running thinking it was a home run

He was just getting an evening jog in.

h8r

Sweet_Caroline
07-25-2012, 10:24 PM
It's certainly a bold strategy.

We'll see how it works out for him cotton.

Melo15
07-25-2012, 10:25 PM
It's certainly a bold strategy.

We'll see how it works out for him cotton.

At least somebody gets me :love:

1_FrozenNetsFan
07-25-2012, 10:26 PM
wow...Washington must like Holland...runs him back out for the 8th against a righty no less

Sweet_Caroline
07-25-2012, 10:28 PM
wow...Washington must like Holland...runs him back out for the 8th against a righty no less

He's too busy snorting the foul lines to pull Holland.

1_FrozenNetsFan
07-25-2012, 10:29 PM
Time to earn your 20 mil Gonzo

Nomar
07-25-2012, 10:32 PM
All of our SP were wondering what that noise was when Holland was walking to the dugout.

Sweet_Caroline
07-25-2012, 10:36 PM
Sigh

Melo15
07-25-2012, 10:37 PM
All of our SP were wondering what that noise was when Holland was walking to the dugout.

No doubt, it interrupted their drinking session.

Sweet_Caroline
07-25-2012, 10:39 PM
It wouldn't be a game without Cruz or Napoli hitting a HR.

Station 13
07-25-2012, 10:40 PM
hey hey hey

Nomar
07-25-2012, 10:41 PM
Albers sucks **** every year after the all star break. Maybe he wouldnt if he wasnt such a fat ****

Nomar
07-25-2012, 10:45 PM
No doubt, it interrupted their drinking session.

lmao

Sweet_Caroline
07-25-2012, 10:48 PM
Ross going yard.

Nomar
07-25-2012, 10:49 PM
Lol the two games we decent at least decent starts we cant hit the ball. Very surprising

Sweet_Caroline
07-25-2012, 10:50 PM
“@brianmacp: A defeated-looking Gonzalez chucks his helmet up the tunnel behind the dugout after his groundout to second.”

LOUD NOISES

Nomar
07-25-2012, 10:51 PM
@brianmacp: A defeated-looking Gonzalez chucks his helmet up the tunnel behind the dugout after his groundout to second.

LOUD NOISES

Read my title! Lub ya

Nomar
07-25-2012, 10:53 PM
One positive is that Beckett wouldve had a good game if it wasnt for that wild pitch. Losing 2 of 3 to TX isnt the worst thing.

It will be interesting to see if we pick up a SP by the deadline, i hope we dont though.

SirHizz
07-25-2012, 10:58 PM
One positive is that Beckett wouldve had a good game if it wasnt for that wild pitch. Losing 2 of 3 to TX isnt the worst thing.

It will be interesting to see if we pick up a SP by the deadline, i hope we dont though.

Agreed, you can lose a game/series in Texas. First loss was disgusting, but this one is "bearable" (if that is possible at all). Beckett was neither great nor horrible.

Our offense is very talented, but not very disciplined. That was such a strength a few years ago, now they barely walk 1-2 times per game.

Yes, it's gonna be interesting, but I expect zero trades to be honest, maybe something minor, but nothing else.

Nomar
07-25-2012, 11:00 PM
Agreed, you can lose a game/series in Texas. First loss was disgusting, but this one is "bearable" (if that is possible at all). Beckett was neither great nor horrible.

Our offense is very talented, but not very disciplined. That was such a strength a few years ago, now they barely walk 1-2 times per game.

Yes, it's gonna be interesting, but I expect zero trades to be honest, maybe something minor, but nothing else.

Yeah i would expect one of Nava/Sweeney gone and Shoppach gone too but in terms of acquiring any meaningful players i would say no.

AI
07-25-2012, 11:06 PM
Hope the Yanks sweep us and officially start our fire sale

Station 13
07-25-2012, 11:14 PM
Nah... the FO is too stupid to do that. They'd get nothing back

Crucis
07-26-2012, 01:41 AM
One positive is that Beckett wouldve had a good game if it wasnt for that wild pitch. Losing 2 of 3 to TX isnt the worst thing.

Or hitting the guy that scored in the first place.

Still, you're right that Beckett pitched a pretty decent game considering that it was against one of the best offenses in MLB, the Rangers.

1_FrozenNetsFan
07-26-2012, 03:41 AM
Hope the Yanks sweep us and officially start our fire sale

but I do think the RS should be sellers...for the right deals

Greenmonster24
07-26-2012, 10:06 AM
Be sellers but not to the point of getting rid of guys that we need to be good in 2013 that fit this team long term. I also would be a buyer if the player available helped us to be a great team in 2013,2014,2015. I trying to say is we don't need to do anything for this year it is a loss season but guys that aren't going be on our team next year or players that are a cancer to our team we should shop. Its not happening but that guys like Justin Upton we could get in a trade while getting rid of Crawford and allow us to move Ross to left field and give us something close to what Crawford and Ellsbury gives us sense Ellsbury were going to lose to free agency after 2013 and Crawford will never be that great for us and never be worth half as much and might be more value to other teams that can fully utilies his talent. Ellsbury still has 51 career homers and 31 came last year. Are we going pay him for 2011 like we did to Beckett for 2007 when he will never reach those levels again.