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waveycrockett
07-14-2012, 09:19 PM
RT @allzoner Just got off the phone with NBA free agent Raymond Felton. He says a deal is about to be completed sending him back to the NY Knicks.

RT @SpearsNBAYahoo Knicks close to obtaining point guard Raymond Felton in sign and trade with Blazers, source tells Y! Sports.

Lin will be a Rocket

StarvingKnick22
07-14-2012, 09:20 PM
Like Nas once said "they tell me we cant. What The ****?" - meaning that they dont or cant resign lin but somehow they sign Felton

TeamSeattle
07-14-2012, 09:21 PM
Worst move in Knicks history. If this goes through I'll need time to collect myself. WTF!

waveycrockett
07-14-2012, 09:21 PM
Lin is a rocket. Sucks for Morey

Netslunatic76
07-14-2012, 09:22 PM
Welcome back? No Lin?

StarvingKnick22
07-14-2012, 09:23 PM
yo crockett are you a knick fan or what?

NYKnicksAllDay
07-14-2012, 09:23 PM
No. No. No. No. No. This **** better not go through.

StarvingKnick22
07-14-2012, 09:23 PM
wait no lin YES BABY!

bholly
07-14-2012, 09:25 PM
Is this real? It's been an hour since whoever @allzoner is tweeted, and still nothing from anyone credible.

edit: just saw spears has it too. crazy.

D12 fan
07-14-2012, 09:25 PM
Lin is a rocket. Sucks for Morey

Yep they just hurt their chances of a Dwight deal,they can only take on 1 of Orlando's bad contracts.

Losoway
07-14-2012, 09:25 PM
smart move by the knicks . i would never EVER EVER EVER EVER give LIN THAT MUCH MONEY .

raymond felton in shape > LIN by far

310Casper
07-14-2012, 09:25 PM
Lin is good but not that good. Good move for NY.

Another asian in Houston after Yao Ming. They love their asians.

DoMeFavors
07-14-2012, 09:26 PM
He is better than Lin but he is fat, maybe NY will monivate him again and he wont go into eating depression from being traded from there. Would be funny if he was traded again.

black1605
07-14-2012, 09:26 PM
Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine
RT @FisolaNYDN: TV reporter in South Carolina has Felton saying Knicks deal with Lin is off

Later, Lin.

KB-Pau-DH2012
07-14-2012, 09:26 PM
Yes! Felton is a Knick, they already have J-Kidd as well, meaning they don't match Houston's offer for Lin, Lin becomes a Rocket, and one less contract that Houston takes in in a potential Dwight deal. :dance:

KniCks4LiFe
07-14-2012, 09:27 PM
I want to punch James Dolan so hard right now.

bholly
07-14-2012, 09:27 PM
Marc J. Spears ‏@SpearsNBAYahoo
Jeremy Lin appears close to being a Houston Rocket with Raymond Felton to NY deal close to being done, sources tell Y!.

StarvingKnick22
07-14-2012, 09:28 PM
Yes! Felton is a Knick, they already have J-Kidd as well, meaning they don't match Houston's offer for Lin, Lin becomes a Rocket, and one less contract that Houston takes in in a potential Dwight deal. :dance:

= Dwight to LA a done deal :cool:

NYKnicksAllDay
07-14-2012, 09:28 PM
So. ****ing. Stupid. **** off Felton.

DoMeFavors
07-14-2012, 09:28 PM
Its smart for NY, im proud of them for not going into the hype and paying Lin 15 million a year. Felton sucks but is better than Lin.

TeamSeattle
07-14-2012, 09:29 PM
I want to punch James Dolan so hard right now.

I'm gonna fly to NY and boo the snuff outta this team. Were trying to contend and they bring back Felton :pity::pity::pity:

KniCks4LiFe
07-14-2012, 09:29 PM
Ray Felton shouldn't be in this conversation! He has no upside! dammit even Portland wanted him gone, we're doing them a favor?

KB-Pau-DH2012
07-14-2012, 09:30 PM
= Dwight to LA a done deal :cool:

I hope! :pray:

NYKnicksAllDay
07-14-2012, 09:30 PM
:bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang:

waveycrockett
07-14-2012, 09:30 PM
I think Kidd starts. He is better than Ray Ray

Reyes6
07-14-2012, 09:30 PM
Knicks really screwed themselves. If they don't sign Lin and say what they said, it's a PR nightmare for their franchise.

Mr Costanza
07-14-2012, 09:30 PM
Its smart for NY, im proud of them for not going into the hype and paying Lin 15 million a year. Felton sucks but is better than Lin.

Did you just compliment the Knicks?? :speechless:

D12 fan
07-14-2012, 09:31 PM
Yes! Felton is a Knick, they already have J-Kidd as well, meaning they don't match Houston's offer for Lin, Lin becomes a Rocket, and one less contract that Houston takes in in a potential Dwight deal. :dance:

Yep this is what I was thinking.

NYKnicksAllDay
07-14-2012, 09:31 PM
Its smart for NY, im proud of them for not going into the hype and paying Lin 15 million a year. Felton sucks but is better than Lin.

No, he is not.

Mr Costanza
07-14-2012, 09:32 PM
Knicks really screwed themselves. If they don't sign Lin and say what they said, it's a PR nightmare for their franchise.

No it won't, the rockets raised the offer which changed everything.

KniCks4LiFe
07-14-2012, 09:32 PM
Its smart for NY, im proud of them for not going into the hype and paying Lin 15 million a year. Felton sucks but is better than Lin.

No he is ****ing not! did you even watch the blazers games?

DoMeFavors
07-14-2012, 09:33 PM
No, he is not.

Felton is atleast proven, and Lin would be making so much. Felton will probably make less than 2 million.

Bulls_fan90
07-14-2012, 09:33 PM
Damn! I thought they would match Lin. ****ing Morey...

TeamSeattle
07-14-2012, 09:33 PM
Felton was hot *******g garbage last season. Don't defend that bum

torocan
07-14-2012, 09:34 PM
If Lin ends up as a Rocket, Knicks fans better hope that Lin doesn't end up as a top 5-10 PG or this will go down as one of the worst FA/Trade fiasco's in recent memory.

Not sure I can stomache the idea of Lin posterizing teams in a Rockets uniform...

And for Felton? His Portland play was beyond appalling...

YeaDat
07-14-2012, 09:34 PM
If they dont match houstons offer i think that is a mistake due to the fact Lins fan base is huge and they'll miss out on all that revenue.

BigBlueCrew
07-14-2012, 09:34 PM
This isnt happen. This is more twitter crap.

STL Don
07-14-2012, 09:34 PM
If true...so, so stupid.
How can you let Lin walk away, that's just crazy. Felton doesn't have the ceiling Lin has, with Kidd coming into NY, it would only make sense to have him be mentored by the future hall of famer. I'll be real disappointed if this is true.

waveycrockett
07-14-2012, 09:34 PM
Felton was the worst starting PG in the NBA last year. I cant recall how many times Nate McMillan benched him but it was alot

BigBlueCrew
07-14-2012, 09:35 PM
Yep this is what I was thinking.

Hey! Are you a Laker fan now?

KnickaBocka.44
07-14-2012, 09:35 PM
Felton is atleast proven, and Lin would be making so much. Felton will probably make less than 2 million.

He is proven garbage. D'antoni isn't our coach anymore, that was the only thing that saved him the first time.

Reyes6
07-14-2012, 09:35 PM
Knicks said they would pay "Anything" for Lin. They'd be going back on their word.

TeamSeattle
07-14-2012, 09:35 PM
Felton was the worst starting PG in the NBA last year. I cant recall how many times Nate McMillan benched him but it was alot

Can't believe I'm agreeing with this guy

shep33
07-14-2012, 09:35 PM
What the? No more Linsanity?

Reyes6
07-14-2012, 09:36 PM
Felton was the worst starting PG in the NBA last year. I cant recall how many times Nate McMillan benched him but it was alot

Augustin was worse, but Felton was pretty bad.

waveycrockett
07-14-2012, 09:36 PM
RT @SpearsNBAYahoo Jeremy Lin appears close to being a Houston Rocket with Raymond Felton to NY deal close to being done, sources tell Y!

WhiteSoxGod
07-14-2012, 09:36 PM
LOL Love it. I just want to know if Morey uses Lube when he ****s the Knicks because this would be the 3rd time in recent years.

NYKnicksAllDay
07-14-2012, 09:36 PM
Felton is atleast proven, and Lin would be making so much. Felton will probably make less than 2 million.

Yeah, proven to be a fat, out of shape piece of garbage. Dude sucked this year.

WhiteSoxGod
07-14-2012, 09:37 PM
Houston has a HUGE Asian fan base because of Yao Ming. Lin would bring in a ****-ton of money for the Franchise.

KB-Pau-DH2012
07-14-2012, 09:37 PM
Knicks said they would pay "Anything" for Lin. They'd be going back on their word.

Yea well Houston and Lin secretly adding that 3rd yr to the contract (which is the repeater tax yr of 2014-2015) really ****ed everything up, so Houston broke the league trust code first.

**** Morey and **** Lin!



Now if only Bulls don't match Asik. :pray:

blastmasta26
07-14-2012, 09:37 PM
If this actually happens, then I don't know what is going on with the FO. Of course Lin is far from proven, but he has the potential that Felton doesn't, plus Felton has never had a Lin-type stretch (fluke or not) within the same offense.

If it has to do with money, then the FO really screwed up by not making the initial offer and locking him up early.

DoMeFavors
07-14-2012, 09:37 PM
Only problem is, if Kidd ends his career in the next year then Felton is the start and if Felton isnt good anymore thats a huge set back.

waveycrockett
07-14-2012, 09:37 PM
LOL Love it. I just want to know if Morey uses Lube when he ****s the Knicks because this would be the 3rd time in recent years.

Morey is left holding a giant turd wtf are you talking about. 30million in 3 years between just Lin and Aseik wtf is that

KB-Pau-DH2012
07-14-2012, 09:38 PM
If this actually happens, then I don't know what is going on with the FO. Of course Lin is far from proven, but he has the potential that Felton doesn't, plus Felton has never had a Lin-type stretch (fluke or not) within the same offense.

If it has to do with money, then the FO really screwed up by not making the initial offer and locking him up early.

Potential, potential, potential.


Knicks are in WIN NOW MODE!!!

blastmasta26
07-14-2012, 09:38 PM
LOL Love it. I just want to know if Morey uses Lube when he ****s the Knicks because this would be the 3rd time in recent years.
This is one, and the T-Mac trade was another, what's the 3rd?

BigBlueCrew
07-14-2012, 09:38 PM
so who is jason kidd gonna mentor?

blastmasta26
07-14-2012, 09:39 PM
Potential, potential, potential.


Knicks are in WIN NOW MODE!!!
Felton right now is terrible too lol. Couldn't secure a starting spot in Portland for a team that desperately needed a PG.

John Walls Era
07-14-2012, 09:39 PM
Is this not the best scenario for Knick Trolls? Knicks won't win with Felton and if Lin somehow replicates success in Houston, it will be "Knicks are stupid to let Lin go".

DoMeFavors
07-14-2012, 09:39 PM
WOW THIS IS CRAZY

Back in 2010 all Knick fans were calling Felton a top 5 pg and a lock for an all star that year, he did avg 9 assists and made Amare better than he is now. Also did hit game winners. If I was a Knick fan I would be thankful..Lin sucks.

KniCks4LiFe
07-14-2012, 09:39 PM
Without Lin Knicks are over the cap and old.

With Lin the Knicks are over the cap but have a potential. WTF James Dolan really? no ****ing really?

KB-Pau-DH2012
07-14-2012, 09:40 PM
Felton right now is terrible too lol. Couldn't secure a starting spot in Portland for a team that desperately needed a PG.

Before Felton was part of the Melo trade to Denver, he and Amare had really good chemistry.

John Walls Era
07-14-2012, 09:40 PM
Yea well Houston and Lin secretly adding that 3rd yr to the contract (which is the repeater tax yr of 2014-2015) really ****ed everything up, so Houston broke the league trust code first.

**** Morey and **** Lin!
Now if only Bulls don't match Asik. :pray:

Please let us know how you really feel.

TeamSeattle
07-14-2012, 09:41 PM
Before Felton was part of the Melo trade to Denver, he and Amare had really good chemistry.

Your jumping to alot of conclusions. You don't even know if this means D12 is going to LA.

eternal slumber
07-14-2012, 09:41 PM
Houston has a HUGE Asian fan base because of Yao Ming. Lin would bring in a ****-ton of money for the Franchise.

good job Morey, i think.:clap:

waveycrockett
07-14-2012, 09:41 PM
so who is jason kidd gonna mentor?

Whoever the new token asian guy is

torocan
07-14-2012, 09:41 PM
Morey is left holding a giant turd wtf are you talking about. 30million in 3 years between just Lin and Aseik wtf is that

For the Rockets the cap hit is averaged over 3 years, so $8.3M/year for each contract for a total of $16.6M/year against their cap space, leaving them $42M in total space to work with beyond Lin/Asik.

It's a wierd thing in the CBA.

The Cap is averaged for bidding teams, but as is for matching teams.

More-Than-Most
07-14-2012, 09:41 PM
Smart move... Lin will bust

NBA_Starter
07-14-2012, 09:42 PM
Wow, kind of hard to believe they didn't keep Lin for marketing purposes at least.

xxplayerxx23
07-14-2012, 09:42 PM
Fattie Felton gets into shape I like the move. He brings toughness and defense. Him and Kidd can split the PG pos Ill miss lin and he will prob be decent but Im not against it. As long as Felton gets into shape which I believe he will. Looks like Dolan doesnt want to pay lol

blastmasta26
07-14-2012, 09:43 PM
WOW THIS IS CRAZY

Back in 2010 all Knick fans were calling Felton a top 5 pg and a lock for an all star that year, he did avg 9 assists and made Amare better than he is now. Also did hit game winners. If I was a Knick fan I would be thankful..Lin sucks.

Felton was never top 5 or close, and even if he was, it was due to a system that isn't existent in NY anymore. Amare had a characteristic year with Felton, last year was almost certainly an aberration with all the injuries and off court troubles he had. Game winners don't mean much, Lin hit those too, and plus being clutch is Melo's job.

waveycrockett
07-14-2012, 09:43 PM
WOW THIS IS CRAZY

Back in 2010 all Knick fans were calling Felton a top 5 pg and a lock for an all star that year, he did avg 9 assists and made Amare better than he is now. Also did hit game winners. If I was a Knick fan I would be thankful..Lin sucks.

That was in Mike D'Antoni run and gun system bruh

NYKnicksAllDay
07-14-2012, 09:43 PM
Potential, potential, potential.


Knicks are in WIN NOW MODE!!!

And Felton helps this zero. Lin>>>Felton.

WhiteSoxGod
07-14-2012, 09:43 PM
Morey is left holding a giant turd wtf are you talking about. 30million in 3 years between just Lin and Aseik wtf is that

LOL Wait a minute an hour ago Lin was the next coming of Chris Paul to Knicks fans, now he is a turd? ha ha ha

The Rockets have a huge Asian base, they will make plenty of money on Linsanity just as the Knicks would have. The difference is Houston is not cash strapped and has room to accommodate him.

REMEMBER as the offer sheet team our cap hit is an average. The Knicks cap hit is the exact amount every year. So we don't have the 14 million cap hit only an 8 million hit each year.



This is one, and the T-Mac trade was another, what's the 3rd?

Knicks helped us facilitate a future trade by trading for a 39 yrd old center the Rockets weren't going to keep anyway. That one wasn't as bad. He just stuck the tip in.

Losoway
07-14-2012, 09:44 PM
IF LIN goes to The rockets...he wont do anything i promise you that. the west 20 times harder then the east .

he got exposed bad against miami where chalmers locked him down he wouldnt even bring the ball pass half court without passing.

if felton can get in shape. He can be great , the only reason people care about lin is because he is asian and marketable . THATS why the rockets want him

blastmasta26
07-14-2012, 09:46 PM
Before Felton was part of the Melo trade to Denver, he and Amare had really good chemistry.
Yeah, but that was under the D'Antoni pick and roll. That system is gone, plus Tyson and Melo both occupy some of the space where Amare operates. Amare had free reign when it was just him and Felton running that, with Gallo, Wilson Chandler, and Fields working from the perimeter.

DoMeFavors
07-14-2012, 09:46 PM
Honestly if the reports came out that Knicks had chance to get Felton and let Lin go to Houston and chose to sign Lin, I would be bashing them right now..But with a move like this I earned their respect. Lin is a ego maniac now and was probably ready to go back to NY thats why he signed the sheet he knew they would match...now he isnt going to get all the Jersey money he could have got in NY. Guy has turned from a humble kid into a jerk.

bholly
07-14-2012, 09:47 PM
Wonder how quickly this'll come up in the next 'what was the point of the lockout' thread?

torocan
07-14-2012, 09:48 PM
LOL Wait a minute an hour ago Lin was the next coming of Chris Paul to Knicks fans, now he is a turd? ha ha ha

The Rockets have a huge Asian base, they will make plenty of money on Linsanity just as the Knicks would have. The difference is Houston is not cash strapped and has room to accommodate him.

REMEMBER as the offer sheet team our cap hit is an average. The Knicks cap hit is the exact amount every year. So we don't have the 14 million cap hit only an 8 million hit each year.




Knicks helped us facilitate a future trade by trading for a 39 yrd old center the Rockets weren't going to keep anyway. That one wasn't as bad. He just stuck the tip in.

The Knicks fans aren't monolithic any more than the Rockets fans are.

A significant number love Lin, hate Lin, and are ambivalent towards Lin.

Personally I think he'll turn out very good.

We'll just have to see whether Morey or Grunwald turns out to be a Genius or a Scapegoat.

Oldmantrash
07-14-2012, 09:49 PM
Its smart for NY, im proud of them for not going into the hype and paying Lin 15 million a year. Felton sucks but is better than Lin.

Felton is not better than Lin.

They both flourished under Dantoni, and no one else, except Lin was better.
We know Felton sucks, Lin might be real good, and anyone who says otherwise is just guessing, or hoping.


Knicks are stupid if they let him go

Hunter48MVP
07-14-2012, 09:49 PM
Lin is good but not that good. Good move for NY.

Another asian in Houston after Yao Ming. They love their asians.

lol

blastmasta26
07-14-2012, 09:49 PM
Felton is not better than Lin.

They both flourished under Dantoni, and no one else, except Lin was better.
We know Felton sucks, Lin might be real good, and anyone who says otherwise is just guessing, or hoping.


Knicks are stupid if they let him go
Agreed.

Red Hot Rolllin
07-14-2012, 09:49 PM
happy feet Felton.. good luck with that one

Losoway
07-14-2012, 09:49 PM
Honestly if the reports came out that Knicks had chance to get Felton and let Lin go to Houston and chose to sign Lin, I would be bashing them right now..But with a move like this I earned their respect. Lin is a ego maniac now and was probably ready to go back to NY thats why he signed the sheet he knew they would match...now he isnt going to get all the Jersey money he could have got in NY. Guy has turned from a humble kid into a jerk.


well said. Lin turned into a ego maniac , did he not remember the days of being cutt off teams and no one wanting to take a chance on him ??

i respect getting money . but new york made him he can go to rockets and practice alley oops with asik for all i care now

John Walls Era
07-14-2012, 09:50 PM
Why don't the Knicks just sign some of us? We are all in much better shape.

D12 fan
07-14-2012, 09:50 PM
so who is jason kidd gonna mentor?

Felton,lmao.

DoMeFavors
07-14-2012, 09:50 PM
Felton has beat the Heat before, teams are going to take Knicks a lot more seriously with Felton either starting or backing up Kidd...he plays a lot better defense. Lin is a one hit wonder.

eternal slumber
07-14-2012, 09:50 PM
The Knicks fans aren't monolithic any more than the Rockets fans are.

A significant number love Lin, hate Lin, and are ambivalent towards Lin.

Personally I think he'll turn out very good.

We'll just have to see whether Morey or Grunwald turns out to be a Genius or a Scapegoat.


agreed 100% on this buddy. time will tell who made the better decision.

BigBlueCrew
07-14-2012, 09:50 PM
Felton,lmao.

He doesnt need a mentor, he needs a dietician

Jarvo
07-14-2012, 09:51 PM
Felton fell off I think Kidd will start over him, Knicks fault for saying they'll match any offer for Lin. And Felton is not better then Lin NY lost

BSardogan
07-14-2012, 09:51 PM
Yep they just hurt their chances of a Dwight deal,they can only take on 1 of Orlando's bad contracts.

Lol, we were only willing to take on one of their bad contracts anyhow. This doesn't hurt our chances of getting Dwight one bit. That said, I'd rather not blow up this whole roster to add that diva's that's going to ***** around for two months and then inevitably leave.

Lin/Lamb/Parsons/Montiejunas/Any frikking one

Our looks brighter than a lot of team's.

waveycrockett
07-14-2012, 09:51 PM
Morey looks like a damn idiot. All that money for a dude who will be a downgrade at PG from Lowry/Dragic

eternal slumber
07-14-2012, 09:52 PM
He doesnt need a mentor, he needs a dietician

a personal trainer, if i may add.

Badluck33
07-14-2012, 09:53 PM
someone probably told Dolan what the tax would be like in 3 years with Lin on the roster.

Does anyone honestly blame him? oh wait, its not your money- i forgot.

Losoway
07-14-2012, 09:54 PM
Felton fell off I think Kidd will start over him, Knicks fault for saying they'll match any offer for Lin. And Felton is not better then Lin NY lost

:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

i guess im one of the few new yorkers that believe lin is average at best

waveycrockett
07-14-2012, 09:55 PM
:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

i guess im one of the few new yorkers that believe lin is average at best

You talking about his junk?

More-Than-Most
07-14-2012, 09:55 PM
Now Knicks fans will say they wanted felton all along and Lin is not worth the contract... Not fond of felton either but they made the right call staying away from Lin

blastmasta26
07-14-2012, 09:55 PM
:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

i guess im one of the few new yorkers that believe lin is average at best
Even if Lin is average, Felton is coming off a well below average year.

Losoway
07-14-2012, 09:55 PM
Morey looks like a damn idiot. All that money for a dude who will be a downgrade at PG from Lowry/Dragic

same thing i said

LOWRY LIGHT YEARS BETTER THEN LIN .

Dragic WAYYYY BETTER then lin .

lmao and on top of that the west is wayyy harder then the east

lin is gonna get abused

jiggin
07-14-2012, 09:56 PM
wow wonder what portland is getting back in this...awesome if they are able to get ANYTHING for felton since he isn't restricted. something for basically nothing...almost literally...LOL

StarvingKnick22
07-14-2012, 09:57 PM
Honestly if the reports came out that Knicks had chance to get Felton and let Lin go to Houston and chose to sign Lin, I would be bashing them right now..But with a move like this I earned their respect. Lin is a ego maniac now and was probably ready to go back to NY thats why he signed the sheet he knew they would match...now he isnt going to get all the Jersey money he could have got in NY. Guy has turned from a humble kid into a jerk.

why dont you DoMeFavors and delete your account. good night lol j/k but stop talking knicks unless your prepared to say that you believe the knicks are bigger and better than the nets, or that your a knicks fan...

shep33
07-14-2012, 09:57 PM
wow wonder what portland is getting back in this...awesome if they are able to get ANYTHING for felton since he isn't restricted. something for basically nothing...almost literally...LOL

Probably a 3rd rounder

SouthSideRookie
07-14-2012, 09:57 PM
Lol, we were only willing to take on one of their bad contracts anyhow. This doesn't hurt our chances of getting Dwight one bit. That said, I'd rather not blow up this whole roster to add that diva's that's going to ***** around for two months and then inevitably leave.

Lin/Lamb/Parsons/Montiejunas/Any frikking one

Our looks brighter than a lot of team's.

I just found out, is this official?

Chronz
07-14-2012, 09:57 PM
Morey looks like a damn idiot. All that money for a dude who will be a downgrade at PG from Lowry/Dragic
$

DoMeFavors
07-14-2012, 09:58 PM
wow wonder what portland is getting back in this...awesome if they are able to get ANYTHING for felton since he isn't restricted. something for basically nothing...almost literally...LOL

prob one of their bums that rides the bench

knickfan33
07-14-2012, 09:58 PM
RT @allzoner Just got off the phone with NBA free agent Raymond Felton. He says a deal is about to be completed sending him back to the NY Knicks.

RT @SpearsNBAYahoo Knicks close to obtaining point guard Raymond Felton in sign and trade with Blazers, source tells Y! Sports.

Lin will be a Rocket


lin is going to be a knick, this doesnt mean anything...jason kidd is gonig to spend a ton of time at the SG till shump comes back, the knicks still need more guard depth.

they had 4 pgs on the roster last year to, its a position they like to have some depth at.

the only real quetion that remains is when will we bring back jared jeffries!!

NYKnicksAllDay
07-14-2012, 09:58 PM
Now Knicks fans will say they wanted felton all along and Lin is not worth the contract... Not fond of felton either but they made the right call staying away from Lin

I sure as hell won't. I want no part of Felton. I'd rather take a risk on Lin than take this guy back.

elledaddy
07-14-2012, 09:58 PM
Morey looks like a damn idiot. All that money for a dude who will be a downgrade at PG from Lowry/Dragic


Yeah I'm a knicks fan and I liked Lin but them letting go of Dragic and Lowry to get Lin wasn't a good ON THE COURT choice but off the court I get it 100%. The Rockets saw a decrease of 49% in operational income last year due to low ticket sales so this will help them in that respect but still they could have had Dragic for a little less, just had to assure him a starting job

WhiteSoxGod
07-14-2012, 09:59 PM
The Knicks fans aren't monolithic any more than the Rockets fans are.

A significant number love Lin, hate Lin, and are ambivalent towards Lin.

Personally I think he'll turn out very good.

We'll just have to see whether Morey or Grunwald turns out to be a Genius or a Scapegoat.

Right but when I was speaking about his contract most knicks fans weren't even worried about it. LOL now they're acting like the Rockets are getting to ha ha.


Morey looks like a damn idiot. All that money for a dude who will be a downgrade at PG from Lowry/Dragic

LOL do you think that's the nature of the situation. FIRST, we got a lottery pick (only top 2 protected) for Lowry. Dragic got $10 million per year. Why is everyone acting like this deal for the rockets is $14 million a year.

AGAIN REMEMBER, The Rockets will only pay him the AVERAGE of the contract making it $8 million a year. That's how the offer sheet works in the NBA. The Knicks have to pay the ACTUAL salary each year. (When I say pay I mean in terms of cap hits.)

Lin will bring in more than $8 million a year in Revenue. As one Knicks fan pointed out, we should worry about filling our "STADIUM" LMAO ha ha ha. Well Houston has a HUGE asian population that will come to the arena. Plus all the revenue in China thanks to a Rockets following there (Thank you Yao Ming).

Jarvo
07-14-2012, 09:59 PM
:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

i guess im one of the few new yorkers that believe lin is average at best

Lin isn't great at all but he's better than Felton, It's more likely Lin will play like he did before he got hurt then Felton played as a Knick dude is looking like a mini Eddy Curry.

StarvingKnick22
07-14-2012, 09:59 PM
same thing i said

LOWRY LIGHT YEARS BETTER THEN LIN .

Dragic WAYYYY BETTER then lin .

lmao and on top of that the west is wayyy harder then the east

lin is gonna get abused

lmao I hate when people get this mixed up.
Light years is a measure of speed, not of time. and that still make no sense:facepalm:

DoMeFavors
07-14-2012, 10:00 PM
why dont you DoMeFavors and delete your account. good night lol j/k but stop talking knicks unless your prepared to say that you believe the knicks are bigger and better than the nets, or that your a knicks fan...

I live in the NY area ofcourse im a Knicks fan, but after my Nets ofcourse. I rooted for Knicks in the playoffs but they didnt get it done the past 2 years.

THE MTL
07-14-2012, 10:01 PM
Look if "DoMeFavors" is complimenting the Knicks in any way, it is the WRONG MOVE!

bholly
07-14-2012, 10:02 PM
lmao I hate when people get this mixed up.
Light years is a measure of speed, not of time. and that still make no sense:facepalm:

um, what? a light-year is a distance. it's how far you'd go in an earth year if you travelled the speed of light.
maybe keep the facepalms to yourself.

arkanian215
07-14-2012, 10:03 PM
0a

Chronz
07-14-2012, 10:03 PM
Lin is a rocket. Sucks for Morey

Yep they just hurt their chances of a Dwight deal,they can only take on 1 of Orlando's bad contracts.
From what I've heard they never intended to take more than 1

Chronz
07-14-2012, 10:03 PM
Knicks really screwed themselves. If they don't sign Lin and say what they said, it's a PR nightmare for their franchise.

No it won't, the rockets raised the offer which changed everything.
Thought they said match ANYTHING

blastmasta26
07-14-2012, 10:03 PM
Look if "DoMeFavors" is complimenting the Knicks in anyway, it is the WRONG MOVE!
lol exactly.

WhiteSoxGod
07-14-2012, 10:04 PM
lmao I hate when people get this mixed up.
Light years is a measure of speed, not of time. and that still make no sense:facepalm:

LOL I totally agree, it drives me crazy. Great catch on that, shows intelligence. Maybe you should be the Knicks GM, ha ha.

djohn2oo8
07-14-2012, 10:05 PM
Marc J. Spears ‏@SpearsNBAYahoo
Rockets found loophole that would cost them $8 million on third year of Lin offer sheet and Knicks $15 million, source tells Y! Sports.

Puck017
07-14-2012, 10:05 PM
The Knicks should try to do a sign and trade for one of the Rockets young forwards.

THE MTL
07-14-2012, 10:06 PM
Marc J. Spears ‏@SpearsNBAYahoo
Rockets found loophole that would cost them $8 million on third year of Lin offer sheet and Knicks $15 million, source tells Y! Sports.

Sucking Stern's dick?

WhiteSoxGod
07-14-2012, 10:06 PM
Marc J. Spears ‏@SpearsNBAYahoo
Rockets found loophole that would cost them $8 million on third year of Lin offer sheet and Knicks $15 million, source tells Y! Sports.

Like I have been trying to explain for the past hour.

naps
07-14-2012, 10:06 PM
Hahaha...Linsanity is over in New York? This is a good news for the NBA forum. Won't have to see so many Lin threads if he actually becomes a Rocket.

Oh and east guards are now happy about all-star voting and won't see anything embarrassing. One of Kobe and CP3 won't start in next year's all-star game :laugh2:

blastmasta26
07-14-2012, 10:07 PM
Hahaha...Linsanity is over in New York? This is a good news for the NBA forum. Won't have to see so many Lin threads if he actually becomes a Rocket.

Oh and east guards are now happy about all-star voting and won't see anything embarrassing. One of Kobe and CP3 won't start in next year's all-star game :laugh2:
lol would be hilarious to see Lin starting next to Kobe in the ASG.

bholly
07-14-2012, 10:08 PM
Marc J. Spears ‏@SpearsNBAYahoo
Rockets found loophole that would cost them $8 million on third year of Lin offer sheet and Knicks $15 million, source tells Y! Sports.

I think this is ********. It isn't a loophole. It's just that under the Arenas rule, the contract would be averaged out across all years for the Rockets, so it's $8.3m per year for them but would go $5m, $5.2m, $15m for the Knicks, which means way more luxury tax in the third year.
This is what WhiteSoxGod has been saying all thread.

It isn't a loophole, it's just the way the rule is supposed to be.

eternal slumber
07-14-2012, 10:08 PM
The Knicks should try to do a sign and trade for one of the Rockets young forwards.

after all of these things happened between the Rockets and Knicks this past few days? i highly doubt that.

rockets-fan
07-14-2012, 10:08 PM
Morey looks like a damn idiot. All that money for a dude who will be a downgrade at PG from Lowry/Dragic

Lol dont people see a trend here? We take "average pg's and make them good point guards here in Houston. We did it with Brooks, we did it with Lowry and we did it with Dragic.

I am not a Lin supporter at all. I always thought and still think he is overrated, but most of these Knicks fans sound extremely butt hurt lol I had only seen 1 or 2 Knicks fans that stated before that they didnt want the offer matched...now all of a sudden they never wanted him???

I am happy about this move because Lin>>>Douglas, which was our only point guard on the team so at least we will have an "ok" pg. but im sure he will flourish here like Brooks,Lowry,and Dragic did.

Our line up (currently) goes from this

Douglas
Martin/Lamb
Parsons/Morris/Jones
Montejunas/Patterson
?????

to this

Lin/Douglas
Martin/Lamb
Parsons/Morris/Jones
Montejunas/Patterson
?????


Costly, but an upgrade none the less. And I expect that our starting roster wil look something like this at the start of the season

Lin
Lamb
Parsons
Montejunas
Bynum


with Martin,Patterson,Morris,Jones and 2 first rounders being traded in a 3 way deal

Adek011
07-14-2012, 10:08 PM
anyone actually have a link for marc spear's tweets? I'm on his twitter page right now and I don't see any of those tweets concerning Lin. The only tweets I see if from that allzoner guy

WhiteSoxGod
07-14-2012, 10:08 PM
Sucking Stern's dick?

NO let me try ONE MORE TIME!!

When it comes to offer sheets, the team that makes the offer sheet gets to pay (in terms of cap hit) that player the AVERAGE of the contract years. In Lin's case that is $8 million per year.

The Knicks must pay (in cap hit) the EXACT amount of the contract each year, thus they would have to take a cap hit of $15 million in year 3.

meloman1592
07-14-2012, 10:08 PM
i call b.s on this whole

bholly
07-14-2012, 10:08 PM
Jonathan Feigen ‏@Jonathan_Feigen
Knicks have absolutely not given Felton assurances that Lin would not be there and he doesn't need them, source said..

WhiteSoxGod
07-14-2012, 10:09 PM
I think this is ********. It isn't a loophole. It's just that under the Arenas rule, the contract would be averaged out across all years for the Rockets, so it's $8.3m per year for them but would go $5m, $5.2m, $15m for the Knicks, which means way more luxury tax in the third year.
This is what WhiteSoxGod has been saying all thread.

It isn't a loophole, it's just the way the rule is supposed to be.

LOL thanks I thought I had been talking to a wall, glad someone is listening ha ha.

eternal slumber
07-14-2012, 10:09 PM
The Knicks should try to do a sign and trade for one of the Rockets young forwards.

i highly doubt that, after all this things happened between the Knicks and Rockets.

Knick_Fever
07-14-2012, 10:09 PM
Big, big mistake by knicks FO. Felton sucks, I was happy when we traded him. He has this inconceivable notion that he is clutch and the ball needs to be in his hands late in clutch situations. It should be a sad day for Knicks nation if this deal goes down. We will cringe when we watch Lin continue to thrive next year in Houston.

blastmasta26
07-14-2012, 10:12 PM
Lol dont people see a trend here? We take "average pg's and make them good point guards here in Houston. We did it with Brooks, we did it with Lowry and we did it with Dragic.

I am not a Lin supporter at all. I always thought and still think he is overrated, but most of these Knicks fans sound extremely butt hurt lol I had only seen 1 or 2 Knicks fans that stated before that they didnt want the offer matched...now all of a sudden they never wanted him???

I am happy about this move because Lin>>>Douglas, which was our only point guard on the team so at least we will have an "ok" pg. but im sure he will flourish here like Brooks,Lowry,and Dragic did.

Our line up (currently) goes from this

Douglas
Martin/Lamb
Parsons/Morris/Jones
Montejunas/Patterson
?????

to this

Lin/Douglas
Martin/Lamb
Parsons/Morris/Jones
Montejunas/Patterson
?????


Costly, but an upgrade none the less. And I expect that our starting roster wil look something like this at the start of the season

Lin
Lamb
Parsons
Montejunas
Bynum


with Martin,Patterson,Morris,Jones and 2 first rounders being traded in a 3 way deal
Lowry was a diamond in the rough, and I suspected Dragic would become good after seeing some of his play in Phoenix. I have that same feeling about Lin and it would kill me to see him succeed for Houston and not in NY where it all started. And I think he will definitely earn that $8 mil per year, not just for his international appeal either.

knicksfan42
07-14-2012, 10:12 PM
Ian Begley ‏@IanBegley


#Knicks say they still have not received the Jeremy Lin offer from Houston.

ManningToTyree
07-14-2012, 10:13 PM
.

Good. I call :bs:

meloman1592
07-14-2012, 10:13 PM
i told u i call b.s

xxplayerxx23
07-14-2012, 10:13 PM
Felton ran pick and rolls with amare great.

WhiteSoxGod
07-14-2012, 10:14 PM
wow yea bro you need to go out tonight and get laided

dont ever repeat this again

Yeah "Don't ever correct someone from saying something that makes no sense at all, what's wrong with you" LMAO :laugh: ha ha ha ha Gotta love New Yorkers!!!

blastmasta26
07-14-2012, 10:14 PM
wow yea bro you need to go out tonight and get laided

dont ever repeat this again

He was actually wrong, light year is a measure of distance, not speed. But you're certainly one to criticize.

Losoway
07-14-2012, 10:14 PM
Lol dont people see a trend here? We take "average pg's and make them good point guards here in Houston. We did it with Brooks, we did it with Lowry and we did it with Dragic.

I am not a Lin supporter at all. I always thought and still think he is overrated, but most of these Knicks fans sound extremely butt hurt lol I had only seen 1 or 2 Knicks fans that stated before that they didnt want the offer matched...now all of a sudden they never wanted him???

I am happy about this move because Lin>>>Douglas, which was our only point guard on the team so at least we will have an "ok" pg. but im sure he will flourish here like Brooks,Lowry,and Dragic did.

Our line up (currently) goes from this

Douglas
Martin/Lamb
Parsons/Morris/Jones
Montejunas/Patterson
?????

to this

Lin/Douglas
Martin/Lamb
Parsons/Morris/Jones
Montejunas/Patterson
?????


Costly, but an upgrade none the less. And I expect that our starting roster wil look something like this at the start of the season

Lin
Lamb
Parsons
Montejunas
Bynum


with Martin,Patterson,Morris,Jones and 2 first rounders being traded in a 3 way deal

lmao your not getting bynum wake up and that lineup is terrible .

plus the rockets offered there whole team for Dwight

Losoway
07-14-2012, 10:15 PM
He was actually wrong, light year is a measure of distance, not speed. But you're certainly one to criticize.

:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

arkanian215
07-14-2012, 10:15 PM
0a

NYMetropolitans
07-14-2012, 10:15 PM
Not even lending an opinion until it's official...Alan Hahn is actually doing some good reporting on this one...with not reporting anything.

Losoway
07-14-2012, 10:16 PM
Ian Begley ‏@IanBegley


#Knicks say they still have not received the Jeremy Lin offer from Houston.

so this was BS????

smh im not believing anything from twitter anymore

WhiteSoxGod
07-14-2012, 10:16 PM
lmao your not getting bynum wake up and that lineup is terrible .

plus the rockets offered there whole team for Dwight

It's not like Bynum said the rockets were one of 3 teams he would want to sign with.....:rolleyes:

blastmasta26
07-14-2012, 10:17 PM
:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:
lol facepalm me all you want. Whatever your point is, it's asinine.

rockets-fan
07-14-2012, 10:18 PM
lmao your not getting bynum wake up and that lineup is terrible .

plus the rockets offered there whole team for Dwight

Im guessing you didnt read the reports that stated that the Rockets weren't giving up as much as everyone thought they were hence why the deal was never made.

And I said I expect that roster. As in that what i predict everything will be when the smokes clear from this dwight drama. i think still he goes to the lakers and bynum comes to houston and orlando gets their picks and young talent. If you agree cool if not keep scrolling down the page.

seikou8
07-14-2012, 10:19 PM
335 guests the damn never knew you guys cared so much:laugh2::laugh2::laugh2:

knicksfan42
07-14-2012, 10:20 PM
They can still match Lin's offer sheet right?

Felton/Kidd
Lin/JR (until Shump gets back)
Melo /
Amare
Chandler

We can. If we acquire Felton it would be through a S&T.

blastmasta26
07-14-2012, 10:20 PM
335 guests the damn never knew you guys cared so much:laugh2::laugh2::laugh2:
Everyone cares about Linsanity lol

StarvingKnick22
07-14-2012, 10:20 PM
I mean distance. You guys in the forum just get me too pissed to notice :mad:

Losoway
07-14-2012, 10:21 PM
I mean distance. You guys in the forum just get me too pissed to notice :mad:

:facepalm::facepalm:

jimm120
07-14-2012, 10:21 PM
Right but when I was speaking about his contract most knicks fans weren't even worried about it. LOL now they're acting like the Rockets are getting to ha ha.



LOL do you think that's the nature of the situation. FIRST, we got a lottery pick (only top 2 protected) for Lowry. Dragic got $10 million per year. Why is everyone acting like this deal for the rockets is $14 million a year.

AGAIN REMEMBER, The Rockets will only pay him the AVERAGE of the contract making it $8 million a year. That's how the offer sheet works in the NBA. The Knicks have to pay the ACTUAL salary each year. (When I say pay I mean in terms of cap hits.)

Lin will bring in more than $8 million a year in Revenue. As one Knicks fan pointed out, we should worry about filling our "STADIUM" LMAO ha ha ha. Well Houston has a HUGE asian population that will come to the arena. Plus all the revenue in China thanks to a Rockets following there (Thank you Yao Ming).

The first offer of 5/5/9/ &option for a 4th year at $10 was ok.

The offer of 5/5/15 gets the Knicks at over $17 million for the 2014/15 season and that will get hit with a 4x multiplier because of the new tax rules.

Honestly, the Knicks will still be in slurry cap he'll until 2015 anyway. I think Knicks match. Felton, Lin, and Kidd will all play. Lin and Felton will play SG in spurts

5ass
07-14-2012, 10:21 PM
so the knicks dont match because they dont want to pay the luxury tax in that final year? Lin will bring them in much more money than his contract and the luxury tax, they will not let him leave.

Puck017
07-14-2012, 10:22 PM
He was actually wrong, light year is a measure of distance, not speed. But you're certainly one to criticize.

Actually your all right. While the unit light year is 9.4605284 10^15 meters, a distance. It is also the distance that light travels in a year making it a speed (9.4605284 10^15 meters/yr)

gwrighter
07-14-2012, 10:22 PM
Remember when Knicks were gonna get Nash?

smith&wesson
07-14-2012, 10:22 PM
great move by the knicks. they save themselves from overpaying way way way too much for lin and get a player of the same caliber for much cheaper. felton could play off the ball which will compliment melo more as well. :clap: great move by the knicks.

eternal slumber
07-14-2012, 10:22 PM
Ian Begley ‏@IanBegley


#Knicks say they still have not received the Jeremy Lin offer from Houston.

this is the reason they haven't received the offer sheet from Houston.

http://blog.chron.com/ultimaterockets/2012/07/hide-and-seek-nba-style-rockets-scour-las-vegas-to-deliver-lin-offer-sheet/

bholly
07-14-2012, 10:23 PM
David Aldridge ‏@daldridgetnt
Have read the Tweets on the Knicks, Lin, Felton. What I know is as of 10 p.m, NY has NOT informed Lin they're not matching, per source.

David Aldridge ‏@daldridgetnt
But Rockets' chances of getting Lin certainly look better than they did yesterday. They think there's a chance Knicks won't match..

StarvingKnick22
07-14-2012, 10:24 PM
Yeah "Don't ever correct someone from saying something that makes no sense at all, what's wrong with you" LMAO :laugh: ha ha ha ha Gotta love New Yorkers!!!

wow you exaggerated the hell out of it. And either way, that guy still got it wrong and plus that guy is a New Yorker too...

knicks=love
07-14-2012, 10:24 PM
Not even lending an opinion until it's official...Alan Hahn is actually doing some good reporting on this one...with not reporting anything.

:clap:

knicksfan42
07-14-2012, 10:25 PM
this is the reason they haven't received the offer sheet from Houston.

http://blog.chron.com/ultimaterockets/2012/07/hide-and-seek-nba-style-rockets-scour-las-vegas-to-deliver-lin-offer-sheet/

Hilarious, its like when people try to avoid being served.

blastmasta26
07-14-2012, 10:25 PM
wow you exaggerated the hell out of it. And either way, that guy still got it wrong and plus that guy is a New Yorker too...
I think you're misreading it, he's defending you.

Losoway
07-14-2012, 10:25 PM
this thread is pointless

Lin is staying a knick

they will match . they said this is another untrue rumor

eternal slumber
07-14-2012, 10:26 PM
Hilarious, its like when people try to avoid being served.

yeah, it's basically it.

seikou8
07-14-2012, 10:26 PM
The first offer of 5/5/9/ &option for a 4th year at $10 was ok.

The offer of 5/5/15 gets the Knicks at over $17 million for the 2014/15 season and that will get hit with a 4x multiplier because of the new tax rules.

Honestly, the Knicks will still be in slurry cap he'll until 2015 anyway. I think Knicks match. Felton, Lin, and Kidd will all play. Lin and Felton will play SG in spurts

i hope your right because we need a good starting pg remember early in the season when we didnt ave one and melo was forced to play point forward.:puke:

Jroz
07-14-2012, 10:28 PM
Look who started this thread...a damn Nets fan...Knicks are making PG maneuvers like its their job..rather have excess at the 1 unlike last year where they had NONE.

IndyRealist
07-14-2012, 10:28 PM
Felton has regressed every year since he left Larry Brown and Charlotte.

Jroz
07-14-2012, 10:28 PM
Felton has regressed every year since he left Larry Brown and Charlotte.

and yet had career numbers with the Knicks.

blastmasta26
07-14-2012, 10:29 PM
Felton has regressed every year since he left Larry Brown and Charlotte.
Well he improved a little bit in NY, then declined drastically afterwards.

Verbal Christ
07-14-2012, 10:29 PM
The Knicks are some ***** made executives. Can't believe they run off at the mouth talking bout they don't have the offer sheet.

Check this out

http://blog.chron.com/ultimaterockets/2012/07/hide-and-seek-nba-style-rockets-scour-las-vegas-to-deliver-lin-offer-sheet/

xxplayerxx23
07-14-2012, 10:30 PM
He was very good in NY. But after that went down hill. I think he would help stat

HYFR
07-14-2012, 10:30 PM
Wat if the rockets dont even send offer sheet to knicks? Is offer binding or can they still keep playin around?lol

Mr Costanza
07-14-2012, 10:31 PM
The Knicks are some ***** made executives. Can't believe they run off at the mouth talking bout they don't have the offer sheet.

Check this out

http://blog.chron.com/ultimaterockets/2012/07/hide-and-seek-nba-style-rockets-scour-las-vegas-to-deliver-lin-offer-sheet/

Strange.

eternal slumber
07-14-2012, 10:31 PM
The Knicks are some ***** made executives. Can't believe they run off at the mouth talking bout they don't have the offer sheet.

Check this out

http://blog.chron.com/ultimaterockets/2012/07/hide-and-seek-nba-style-rockets-scour-las-vegas-to-deliver-lin-offer-sheet/

basically they chickened out.

blastmasta26
07-14-2012, 10:32 PM
The Knicks are some ***** made executives. Can't believe they run off at the mouth talking bout they don't have the offer sheet.

Check this out

http://blog.chron.com/ultimaterockets/2012/07/hide-and-seek-nba-style-rockets-scour-las-vegas-to-deliver-lin-offer-sheet/
:laugh2: "The Rockets had called and asked where they could deliver the offer sheet but were told that information would not be shared."

Mr Costanza
07-14-2012, 10:33 PM
basically they chickened out.

Explain please

BigBlueCrew
07-14-2012, 10:33 PM
basically they chickened out.

Its not like its illegal. :confused:

StarvingKnick22
07-14-2012, 10:33 PM
:facepalm::facepalm:

what ever your still 0/4

justinnum1
07-14-2012, 10:33 PM
lol

Puck017
07-14-2012, 10:34 PM
The Knicks are some ***** made executives. Can't believe they run off at the mouth talking bout they don't have the offer sheet.

Check this out

http://blog.chron.com/ultimaterockets/2012/07/hide-and-seek-nba-style-rockets-scour-las-vegas-to-deliver-lin-offer-sheet/

I'm shocked you can't email or fax these things.

FOBolous
07-14-2012, 10:34 PM
the Knicks never really wanted Lin back anyways. Carmelo doesn't like Lin and Woodson doesn't like Lin. They've been dragging their feet on Lin all off season...instead of offering him a reasonable contract, of which Lin would've no doubt accept, they tried to lowball him and dared him to "test the market." Lin, being the Harvard grad he is, took them up on their dare, went out, and got himself a nice contract that the Knicks will have trouble matching. Now, instead of matching the offer outright as they claimed they would, they're playing hide-and-seek with Houston's front office trying to buy time so they can decide among themselves whether Lin's worth it. Knicks half-*** gambled on the Lin sweepstakes and lost.

WhiteSoxGod
07-14-2012, 10:35 PM
wow you exaggerated the hell out of it. And either way, that guy still got it wrong and plus that guy is a New Yorker too...


I think you're misreading it, he's defending you.

LOL yeah I was confused, I thought I was defending and agreeing with him :shrug:


:laugh2: "The Rockets had called and asked where they could deliver the offer sheet but were told that information would not be shared."

LOL Hilarious.

sep11ie
07-14-2012, 10:35 PM
Lol@ Knicks fans that are now praising Felton and saying how glad they are that Lin is gone.

bholly
07-14-2012, 10:36 PM
The Knicks are some ***** made executives. Can't believe they run off at the mouth talking bout they don't have the offer sheet.

Check this out

http://blog.chron.com/ultimaterockets/2012/07/hide-and-seek-nba-style-rockets-scour-las-vegas-to-deliver-lin-offer-sheet/

wow if that's real. super weak.


what ever your still 0/4

you aren't doing much better. this all started with you calling out and face-palming a dude when you were the one who was wrong.

eternal slumber
07-14-2012, 10:36 PM
Explain please

they've been saying all this time that they'll match any offer to Lin. now Morey have re-upped the deal, they aren't even trying to be professional and receive the offer sheet, rather chose to hide from it.

knicksfan42
07-14-2012, 10:36 PM
Lol@ Knicks fans that are now praising Felton and saying how glad they are that Lin is gone.

Only the idiots that never liked Lin no hypocrisy here bud except from some of the Rockets fans.

koetravis
07-14-2012, 10:37 PM
Lin is a rocket. Sucks for Morey

This is great for Rocket fans!:clap:

sep11ie
07-14-2012, 10:37 PM
Does this put a chink in a possible Howard/Bynum trade for Houston?

bholly
07-14-2012, 10:37 PM
I'm shocked you can't email or fax these things.

I expect you usually can, because the receiving team will admit to receiving it. When the team is refusing to receive it, though, then I guess the sending team needs to put it in their hand otherwise they'll just deny ever getting it.

Mr Costanza
07-14-2012, 10:37 PM
they've been saying all this time that they'll match any offer to Lin. now Morey have re-upped the deal, they aren't even trying to be professional and receive the offer sheet, rather chose to hide from it.

Sounds like they just want extra time to assess the situation.

blastmasta26
07-14-2012, 10:38 PM
I'm still holding out hope that Felton is coming only as a backup and Lin gets matched.

justinnum1
07-14-2012, 10:39 PM
Great move for the Knicks.

KniCks4LiFe
07-14-2012, 10:40 PM
There is no Knicks fan that believes this is what was planned. This is worst of all choices scenerio. Of all. Like if ever they wanted a move that hurts the viewing, the support, the ticket price at the gate. This is it.

knicksfan42
07-14-2012, 10:40 PM
Sounds like they just want extra time to assess the situation.

Its funny picturing all the Knicks execs dodging the Rockets people.



Until the Knick match the offer sheet I believe the Rockets have Lin's salary on their cap.

bholly
07-14-2012, 10:40 PM
Does this put a chink in a possible Howard/Bynum trade for Houston?

yeah you're a real comedy genius. if you're going to steal a joke, don't steal it from the headline of the world's biggest sports network - and especially don't steal dumb racists ones that they made headlines and had to apologize for.

eternal slumber
07-14-2012, 10:41 PM
Sounds like they just want extra time to assess the situation.

maybe but they must receive it if presented to them. they have what, 3 days to match it. also, it's been a while now that we all know Rockets will sign Lin to an offer sheet, but they didn't expect a twist to the deal before being handed to them, but still they must be professional about this things whether they like it or not.

knicksfan42
07-14-2012, 10:41 PM
There is no Knicks fan that believes this is what was planned. This is worst of all choices scenerio. Of all. Like if want a move that hurts the viewing, the support, the ticket price at the gate. This is it.

To be fair if we acquire Felton we will still be able to acquire Lin. So I assume getting both is a best case scenario.

lkingratedr
07-14-2012, 10:42 PM
why is everyone panicing ... the knicks will match and give them another deep guard rotation like last season they had bibby douglas lin davis thats 4 this year they have lin kidd and now felton ... basically i see felton getting signed and traded to knicks for gadzuric maybe rights to a player and some1 else contract

WhiteSoxGod
07-14-2012, 10:43 PM
Grunwald Knicks GM: Please bring us the offer sheet for Jeremy Lin

Morey Rockets GM: Where do we need to bring it to?

Grunwald: We're not sharing that information with you....somewhere in the U.S.

Morey: What...OK we are sending couriers to your hotel room, office, and home.
(Morey hangs up)

(later after failed attempts to deliver offer sheet because of a failure to answer the door for couriers and Rockets reps....Morey receives call from Grunwald)

Grunwald: Hey Morey are you going to give us Jeremy Lin's offer sheet or what? This is b.s. quit playing games

Morey: WTF?? No wonder you're the joke of the league...(hangs up phone)

(Grunwald then proceeds to tell media Morey STILL hasn't given them offer sheet...Knicks fans get angry at Morey)


LOL It would be funny if it wasn't so true......

bklynny67
07-14-2012, 10:44 PM
Pretty misleading thread title that should be changed, since Felton to Knicks is not true at this time.

bholly
07-14-2012, 10:45 PM
why is everyone panicing ... the knicks will match and give them another deep guard rotation like last season they had bibby douglas lin davis thats 4 this year they have lin kidd and now felton ... basically i see felton getting signed and traded to knicks for gadzuric maybe rights to a player and some1 else contract

Because people aren't so sure that they will match?

Even if you expect that they'll probably match, the fact that they're avoiding the offer sheet and getting Felton doesn't fill people with confidence. If you're certain they'll match then you're lying to yourself.

That's why.

Edit: replaced 'Lin' with 'Felton'. Oops.

blastmasta26
07-14-2012, 10:46 PM
Because people aren't so sure that they will match?

Even if you expect that they'll probably match, the fact that they're avoiding the offer sheet and getting Lin doesn't fill people with confidence. If you're certain they'll match then you're lying to yourself.

That's why.
Yeah, I'm pretty worried right now.

Nycbball08
07-14-2012, 10:46 PM
What happened to the Kidd to mentor Lin thing ..

eternal slumber
07-14-2012, 10:46 PM
Grunwald Knicks GM: Please bring us the offer sheet for Jeremy Lin

Morey Rockets GM: Where do we need to bring it to?

Grunwald: We're not sharing that information with you....somewhere in the U.S.

Morey: What...OK we are sending couriers to your hotel room, office, and home.
(Morey hangs up)

(later after failed attempts to deliver offer sheet because of a failure to answer the door for couriers and Rockets reps....Morey receives call from Grunwald)

Grunwald: Hey Morey are you going to give us Jeremy Lin's offer sheet or what? This is b.s. quit playing games

Morey: WTF?? No wonder you're the joke of the league...(hangs up phone)

(Grunwald then proceeds to tell media Morey STILL hasn't given them offer sheet...Knicks fans get angry at Morey)


LOL It would be funny if it wasn't so true......


Knicks FO are real gentlemen. :clap:

lkingratedr
07-14-2012, 10:46 PM
and as much as i love lin ... 15 million in his 3rd year is jumping all the way out the window with no parachute on... matter of fact im pissed that lin accepted another deal with them after the rockets cut his *** last year he should be grateful the knicks picked him up and made him what he is ... if not he would still be rotting on the damn rockets bench ... if i was the knicks brass i would remind him of that... we wanted you when no one else did now u tryna screw us ... nah screw u go back to houston and rot playing without any support... but thats just me lol

PlezPlayDKnicks
07-14-2012, 10:48 PM
LOL It would be funny if it wasn't so true......

No Lin is not worth it. I'm SO happy the Knicks...

No Lin is not worth it. I'm SO happy the Knicks are matching his over-bloated offer sheet. We should have made it for $999,999,998 since the Knicks would have matched up to $1 Billion.

Switching ur tune much ???? Or now ur happy he's gonna be a rocket lol

bholly
07-14-2012, 10:48 PM
@FisolaNYDN: Knicks have acquired Raymond Felton and Kurt Thomas from Portland for Jared Jeffries and Gadzuric, sources tell Daily News.

oak2455
07-14-2012, 10:48 PM
Saturday, July 14Frank Isola: The Knicks have acquired Raymond Felton and Kurt Thomas from Portland for Jared Jeffries and Dan Gadzuric, sources tell the Daily News now

Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter/tag/new_york_knicks#ixzz20eiHDv4V

black1605
07-14-2012, 10:49 PM
Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine
RT @FisolaNYDN: Knicks have acquired Raymond Felton and Kurt Thomas from Portland for Jared Jeffries and Gadzuric, sources tell Daily News

Done deal.

oak2455
07-14-2012, 10:49 PM
.

beat me:D

TheJesus
07-14-2012, 10:50 PM
Frank Isola Frank Isola ‏@FisolaNYDN

The Knicks have acquired Raymond Felton and Kurt Thomas from Portland for Jared Jeffries and Dan Gadzuric, sources tell the Daily News

Pretty terrible trade. Jeffries is a good defender. Felton is fat.

Chill_Will_24
07-14-2012, 10:50 PM
Does this put a chink in a possible Howard/Bynum trade for Houston?

i see what you did there

Aust
07-14-2012, 10:51 PM
Lin is good but not that good. Good move for NY.

Another asian in Houston after Yao Ming. They love their asians.

They have a nice asian community out there


Worst move in Knicks history. If this goes through I'll need time to collect myself. WTF!

Now that's saying alot

Wondering what that "He'll learn from Kidd" mentor crap was about if they aren't going to go through with it.
I'm a little disappointed by this. I wanted to see him back as a Knick; he won't be nearly as good as he could be going to the Rockets..

TeamSeattle
07-14-2012, 10:51 PM
I honestly think Isola is trolling. Anybody who follows him would know. I need a better source.

KniCks4LiFe
07-14-2012, 10:51 PM
Trade is done.

Felton and Thomas for Gadz and Jefferies. via Isola :facepalm:

black1605
07-14-2012, 10:51 PM
Bill Simmons ‏@sportsguy33
After winning over the Asian community with Jeremy Lin, the Knicks now expect to win over fat people with Ray Felton.

:laugh:

knicksfan42
07-14-2012, 10:52 PM
Bill Simmons ‏@sportsguy33

After winning over the Asian community with Jeremy Lin, the Knicks now expect to win over fat people with Ray Felton.

TheJesus
07-14-2012, 10:52 PM
With fat Raymond Felton signed, the Knicks will make a play for Eddie Curry next.

Is this real life?

justinnum1
07-14-2012, 10:52 PM
Nice trade for ny

knicksfan42
07-14-2012, 10:52 PM
Trade is done.

Felton and Thomas for Gadz and Jefferies. via Isola :facepalm:

Doesn't mean we aren't gonna match.

TheJesus
07-14-2012, 10:52 PM
With fat Raymond Felton signed, the Knicks will make a play for Eddie Curry next.

Is this real life?

$KnicksAndKobe$
07-14-2012, 10:53 PM
Lin will be kept. Happy with the KT trade

Nycbball08
07-14-2012, 10:53 PM
Great we got Kurt Thomas too...

TheJesus
07-14-2012, 10:53 PM
http://geocities.ws/mcrib/FeltonBigMac.png

Losoway
07-14-2012, 10:53 PM
this is false .

dude is trolling harder then anon from ohio

StarvingKnick22
07-14-2012, 10:53 PM
wow if that's real. super weak.



you aren't doing much better. this all started with you calling out and face-palming a dude when you were the one who was wrong.

so what your saying is that he's right and light years is based on time? WTF did you read what he said? Lmao

TheJesus
07-14-2012, 10:54 PM
Lin will be kept. Happy with the KT trade

No he won't. it's over.

torocan
07-14-2012, 10:54 PM
and as much as i love lin ... 15 million in his 3rd year is jumping all the way out the window with no parachute on... matter of fact im pissed that lin accepted another deal with them after the rockets cut his *** last year he should be grateful the knicks picked him up and made him what he is ... if not he would still be rotting on the damn rockets bench ... if i was the knicks brass i would remind him of that... we wanted you when no one else did now u tryna screw us ... nah screw u go back to houston and rot playing without any support... but thats just me lol

Lin didn't have alot of choice. Grunwald never gave him an offer prior to FA.

Similarly, no way Morey increases the offer unless he wanted Lin. Lin's agent can't exactly make Morey increase the offer.

I can't imagine a scenario where Lin asks for a contract to be upped just to screw the Knicks ... GM's don't intentionally overpay for kicks, especially when the contract might get matched. What I can imagine is Morey figuring that the Knicks *might* balk at $12-$13M+... and them taking it to $15M to give them the best chance.

It's easy for them when they only take a $333K cap hit for every $1M they increase the offer.

Remember, the Rockets have NO PG essentially.

It makes perfect sense for the Rockets... it just kills the Knicks.

DoMeFavors
07-14-2012, 10:55 PM
3 former Knicks are returning this year to New York, 2 of them that went to finals in 99

knicks=love
07-14-2012, 10:55 PM
KURT THOMAS! :jumpy:

b@llhog24
07-14-2012, 10:55 PM
Somewhere Kash is plotting either suicide or becoming a Rockets fan.

eternal slumber
07-14-2012, 10:55 PM
Bill Simmons ‏@sportsguy33

After winning over the Asian community with Jeremy Lin, the Knicks now expect to win over fat people with Ray Felton.

i don't know if he's pissed or trying to be funny. :clap:

Jetsguy
07-14-2012, 10:56 PM
Doesn't make any sense to me either way. If you match Lin then you have 4 pg's on the roster. If you don't match Lin then you have no viable starter.

And kt is def a downgrade from jj imo.

black1605
07-14-2012, 10:56 PM
Bill Simmons ‏@sportsguy33
After winning over the Asian community with Jeremy Lin, the Knicks now expect to win over fat people with Ray Felton.

torocan
07-14-2012, 10:57 PM
*sigh* ... Felton. :facepalm:

Losoway
07-14-2012, 10:57 PM
so we got felton and we are keeping lin

WINNING SWAG SHEEN

NYK4L
07-14-2012, 10:57 PM
I actually wouldn't hate this trade at all. Kurt brings thoughness, Dan gadzwathever brings..???????????

WhiteSoxGod
07-14-2012, 10:57 PM
Don't we already have a Raymond Felton to the Knicks thread? Maybe a Mod could merge the 2 threads.

YashBoone
07-14-2012, 10:58 PM
Isola is just trying to get followers back after knick fans started the #unfollowisola movement.

BigBlueCrew
07-14-2012, 10:58 PM
Doesn't make any sense to me either way. If you match Lin then you have 4 pg's on the roster. If you don't match Lin then you have no viable starter.

And kt is def a downgrade from jj imo.

thats the thing. I know we ran outta PGs in the playoffs last year, but 4 PGs on the roster??? thats sick.

StarvingKnick22
07-14-2012, 10:59 PM
Done deal.

OH NO! not Jeffries! Knicks get screwed again...

Losoway
07-14-2012, 10:59 PM
so we can still match lin

oak2455
07-14-2012, 10:59 PM
No he won't. it's over.

source or youre azz??

sharqstealth
07-14-2012, 10:59 PM
Wow! I don't know if I'm going to be happy or not... Happy to have Felton back, but sad to lose Lin for the fact that Linsanity was one of the best moments I've ever seen... Well, for Lin that's what you get for too much greed of money. Now Houston might have eaten their own poison pill!

bholly
07-14-2012, 11:00 PM
so what your saying is that he's right and light years is based on time? WTF did you read what he said? Lmao

No, I'm saying he didn't use them as a measure of time at all, you just interpreted it wrong. Light-years are a measure of distance, and that's exactly how he used them. Just like saying 'Lowry is miles better than Lin', only with light-years instead of miles. It's a very common expression.
To be honest I have no idea how you thought what he was saying had anything to do with time.

Then you jumped in and said you hate how people get it wrong, and that light-years is actually a measure of speed.

So you misunderstood a very common expression, and then were wrong when you tried to correct it. So I wouldn't go facepalming people or criticizing them for being wrong multiple times - that's all I'm saying.

bholly
07-14-2012, 11:01 PM
Marc Berman ‏@NYPost_Berman
Another source insists ‪#Knicks‬ won't match Lin's offer sheet..

Verbal Christ
07-14-2012, 11:01 PM
LMMFAO!!!!! I'm literally in tears enjoying every minute of this meltdown.