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FriedTofuz
07-14-2012, 02:09 PM
This is not going to come as welcome news to Daryl Morey and the Houston Rockets, but there is a report out there today from an Orlando TV station that Dwight Howard is very close to being traded to the Los Angeles Lakers.

David Pingalore of WKMG-TV in Orlando uses some pretty strong language in his report.

“This past week has been nothing but multiple smoke screens concerning the Dwight Howard drama. According to Pingalore’s sources, this week is all about getting Dwight Howard to Los Angeles and on the Lakers roster. Sources close to the situation believe the “The Lakers will be the end game for the Magic center”.

It has long been known that the Lakers were on Howard’s B-list, and that B-list came into play midway through the week when the Brooklyn Nets abandoned their pursuit of Howard and chose to retain Brook Lopez with a max four-year contract with $60.8 million.

Howard reportedly has lucrative incentives in his deal with adidas if he finds a way to play in one of the nation’s two largest markets — New York or Los Angeles.

More from Pingalore’s report: “Many of the stories about Howard have come from Howard’s camp and not from front office people. It is widely believed with front office people that the end game for Howard is the Lakers. That point was stressed over and over to Pingalore. The sources went as far to say “follow the money,” adding “The Lakers are a big market team that needs a player as global as Dwight Howard. Pingalore’s sources believe that this deal is in place and is set for announcement in the short term. Pingalore reported Thursday night the Houston Rockets were in play but the situation remains fluid and is changing at the moment and it’s about keeping people off base. The sources say Friday night this still is all but done. ”Some crossing of T’s and dotting of I’s is only left”.

It has been widely assumed around the league that the Rockets have a deal in place to acquire Howard, and their waiving of Luis Scola through the amnesty process was a move they needed to make to clear enough room under the cap to not only take on Howard, but several other Orlando players.

Houston has the type of assets Orlando general manager Rob Hennigan would like to acquire, including Toronto’s No. 1 pick (top-3 protected in the 2013 Draft, top-2 protected in 2014 and 2015, top-1 protected in 2016 and 2017 and unprotected in 2018) , and a future No. 1 pick from Dallas (top 20 protected through 2017, unprotected in 2018).

The Rockets also have the rights to three players picked among the top 18 in last month’s draft – Jeremy Lamb, Royce White and Terrence Jones, along with two young big men acquired from New York in the Marcus Camby trade — Josh Harrellson and Jerome Jordan.

The Lakers have no similar future assets, having surrendered two future No. 1 picks in their sign-and-trade deal for Steve Nash. But they do have the best center in the Western Conference in Andrew Bynum, whose contract (like Howard’s) expires at the conclusion of next season.
http://www.sheridanhoops.com/2012/07/14/
Daryl Morey will Freak out..

Vinny642
07-14-2012, 02:10 PM
Rotoworld was telling me this dude makes outrageous claims and his stories are hardly true

JeffG20
07-14-2012, 02:10 PM
Rockets are ******** bricks right now lol

fadedmario
07-14-2012, 02:11 PM
Just get it done already. Nothing against the Lakers and their fans - but Howard is easily the most hated player in the NBA right now.

I know he'll make you guys better - but he is turning into a *****.

bucketss
07-14-2012, 02:11 PM
two of my favorite players dwight and nash on my least favorite team nahh boss that can't happen
**** kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk noooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

StarvingKnick22
07-14-2012, 02:11 PM
i knew it baby! my third fav Team!

ewmania
07-14-2012, 02:11 PM
bla bla bla bla merp

same story different team different day

shep33
07-14-2012, 02:12 PM
Ugh, he's just playing off of Pingalore's ****

Don't believe one bit

JeffG20
07-14-2012, 02:12 PM
i bet his first quote with the lakers will be how much he loved orlando

StarvingKnick22
07-14-2012, 02:13 PM
i hope the old time Finals matchup happens you know the the Knicks v. Lakers one!

StarvingKnick22
07-14-2012, 02:14 PM
oh wait...dangit.. 2K13 is gonna make this team the ****... :facepalm:

COOLbeans
07-14-2012, 02:14 PM
Some people.....

nicegoing
07-14-2012, 02:16 PM
OK.

He was about to be traded to the Lakers before then the Nets then the Lakers then the Nets then Houston ....


....

Vinny642
07-14-2012, 02:17 PM
UNTIL a trade happens I wont believe any speculation anymore

Big Zo
07-14-2012, 02:17 PM
Pingalore. Uh huh huh huh.

D12 fan
07-14-2012, 02:25 PM
I told you we would have another Dwight rumor today,don't worry there will be another rumor tomorrow.

ThunderousDemon
07-14-2012, 02:25 PM
First it was the Nets and then the the Rockets and now it's the Lakers. :facepalm:

Vikes_Fan04
07-14-2012, 02:28 PM
Please make it stop!!!!

fadedmario
07-14-2012, 02:28 PM
First it was the Nets and then the the Rockets and now it's the Lakers. :facepalm:

Dude your sig is funny.:D

Iron24th
07-14-2012, 02:28 PM
OK.

He was about to be traded to the Lakers before then the Nets then the Lakers then the Nets then Houston ....


....

Agree, next week maybe another team.

Media are embarrassing themselves.

OnslaughtXX6
07-14-2012, 02:28 PM
********

BigCityofDreams
07-14-2012, 02:29 PM
Dwight Howard likes to eat his own poop rumor has it

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll10/ClaudioAndres/MSOURCES.jpg

:)

TrAv=MaGiCfReAk
07-14-2012, 02:30 PM
One BS reporter making a article out of another BS reporters crap lol so dumb and someone actually made a thread on this?

Crazy I thought there was a Dwight Howard thread for this kinda stuff....

rhino17
07-14-2012, 02:30 PM
100% BS

Who exactly are the Lakers gonna trade? Bynum AND Pau? Because that is the only thing of any worth that they can offer and Dwight is not worth both of them

Mr_Jones
07-14-2012, 02:31 PM
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll10/ClaudioAndres/MSOURCES.jpg

:)

:clap:

Lol

ThunderousDemon
07-14-2012, 02:32 PM
Dude your sig is funny.:D

Thanks :D

shep33
07-14-2012, 02:32 PM
We should not allow Sheridan or Pingalore threads.

ThunderousDemon
07-14-2012, 02:33 PM
:laugh2:
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll10/ClaudioAndres/MSOURCES.jpg

:)

Hawkeye15
07-14-2012, 02:33 PM
wake me up when the immature baby is finally traded.

KaganRS
07-14-2012, 02:33 PM
oh wait...dangit.. 2K13 is gonna make this team the ****... :facepalm:

lol i hate when people chose the Heat/OKC etc.

D12 fan
07-14-2012, 02:34 PM
We should not allow Sheridan or Pingalore threads.

Haha true.

SouthSideRookie
07-14-2012, 02:35 PM
Rockets are ******** bricks right now lol
:dance:

Pingalore. Uh huh huh huh.
:clap:

100% BS

Who exactly are the Lakers gonna trade? Bynum AND Pau? Because that is the only thing of any worth that they can offer and Dwight is not worth both of them

Poker game.

Losoway
07-14-2012, 02:38 PM
he wont be traded till january . guaranteed

BigCityofDreams
07-14-2012, 02:38 PM
wake me up when the immature baby is finally traded.

That's what I feel will happen. He'll get traded late at night and it won't be reported until the deal is already done....none of this deal is close bs.


lol i hate when people chose the Heat/OKC etc.

I don't mind it here and there but games in a row is when I get pissed off. And of course factor in all the cheating that goes on.

LakersQueen
07-14-2012, 02:39 PM
i think he goes to the rockets.

and what is with all these reports, they change everyday

oak2455
07-14-2012, 02:43 PM
Ohhhh yeah

_Supreme_
07-14-2012, 02:46 PM
So if you are Orlando, would you:

A - Not trade Howard and he walks at the end of the year.

B - Trade him for Bynum and crap, and Bynum walks at the end of the year.

C - Trade him to Houston, for a lot of picks & young stuff, and Houston also takes all your garbage too.

This really is a no-brainer to me, and a trade to the Lakers makes 0 sense for Orlando.

A three way trade would have happened by now, so I am not including that one.

If Howard just had a moped accident or whatever this whole hugely annoying circus would instantly disappear :smoking:

Vampirate
07-14-2012, 02:47 PM
This just in, the Charlotte Bobcats are close to trading for Dwight Howard.

The Source: Your Mom.

More to come.

FriedTofuz
07-14-2012, 02:51 PM
So if you are Orlando, would you:

A - Not trade Howard and he walks at the end of the year.

B - Trade him for Bynum and crap, and Bynum walks at the end of the year.

C - Trade him to Houston, for a lot of picks & young stuff, and Houston also takes all your garbage too.

This really is a no-brainer to me, and a trade to the Lakers makes 0 sense for Orlando.

A three way trade would have happened by now, so I am not including that one.

If Howard just had a moped accident or whatever this whole hugely annoying circus would instantly disappear :smoking:

Yeah, even if orlando does trade howard, there is still a risk of bynum walking away, so its pointless. As much as Id like howard on the lakers, the trade to houston makes most sense for the magic. However, I feel as if the 1 year rental for howard would be pointless. The rockets would be trading half their roaster for howard, along with basically accepted the magics garbage on their team. They'd be be the houston magic. Pointless improvements..

Gagan136
07-14-2012, 02:52 PM
Hahaha, will this ever end?

SouthSideRookie
07-14-2012, 02:56 PM
Yeah, even if orlando does trade howard, there is still a risk of bynum walking away, so its pointless. As much as Id like howard on the lakers, the trade to houston makes most sense for the magic. However, I feel as if the 1 year rental for howard would be pointless. The rockets would be trading half their roaster for howard, along with basically accepted the magics garbage on their team. They'd be be the houston magic. Pointless improvements..

It depends what you believe. Espn reported that the Rockets were trading the whole team to Orlando. Then yesterday reports came out claiming that Houston isn't offering as much as had been speculated. My guess is that they will meet somewhere in the middle IF a deal is to get done.

C-Wick925
07-14-2012, 02:57 PM
WOOOHOOOO another dummy dwight thread!

_Supreme_
07-14-2012, 02:59 PM
Yeah, even if orlando does trade howard, there is still a risk of bynum walking away, so its pointless. As much as Id like howard on the lakers, the trade to houston makes most sense for the magic. However, I feel as if the 1 year rental for howard would be pointless. The rockets would be trading half their roaster for howard, along with basically accepted the magics garbage on their team. They'd be be the houston magic. Pointless improvements..

Houston would probably spend the entire season trying to trade the rest of the roster for guys Dwight approves of, but it would obviously still be a huge gamble.

If he leaves anyway despite their best efforts and Hakeem's massages don't help either you would have thrown away all your picks for years to come. On the other hand I think they would have an almost empty roster, so they could rebuild entirely through free agency.

VJ24
07-14-2012, 03:02 PM
Houston would probably spend the entire season trying to trade the rest of the roster for guys Dwight approves of, but it would obviously still be a huge gamble.

If he leaves anyway despite their best efforts and Hakeem's massages don't help either you would have thrown away all your picks for years to come. On the other hand I think they would have an almost empty roster, so they could rebuild entirely through free agency.

Is that Paul Bearer??^^^ haha

KnicksR4Real
07-14-2012, 03:03 PM
If I'm Orlando, I'd try to get those three young Houston rookies in Jones, Lamb, and Motiejunas along with a few picks and even more. That's the best package in my opinion.

UPRock
07-14-2012, 03:05 PM
The Rockets offer is much better, what is Orlando doing.

BigCityofDreams
07-14-2012, 03:07 PM
The Rockets offer is much better, what is Orlando doing.

Which offer are we going the first one or the revised one that came out last night or so?

MagicBucsSox
07-14-2012, 03:09 PM
Orlando can still get Howard to la VIA Houston, And get draft picks and relief + young guys.

StinkEye
07-14-2012, 03:11 PM
Just get it done already. Nothing against the Lakers and their fans - but Howard is easily the most hated player in the NBA right now.

I know he'll make you guys better - but he is turning into a *****.

LA is used to that kinda ****.

_Supreme_
07-14-2012, 03:12 PM
Is that Paul Bearer??^^^ haha

:cool:

KniCks4LiFe
07-14-2012, 03:12 PM
If I'm Orlando, I'd try to get those three young Houston rookies in Jones, Lamb, and Motiejunas along with a few picks and even more. That's the best package in my opinion.

and none of those players will be top 10-15 in their positions. Maybe Donce and that's stretching it. Lamb hopefully becomes Rip Hamilton. Man looking at these packages unless another team comes up w/ a bigger upside package, Orlando dropped the ball on this badly.

Mr_Amaziing
07-14-2012, 03:13 PM
How about a 3 way trade with Orlando, Lakers, Houston

D Howard, Turk, Duhon to the Lakers
Bynum, J. Richardson to the Rockets
Orlando gets Gasol, Royce White, Jeremy Lamb, 2 1st founders

Chavacano
07-14-2012, 03:15 PM
The Lakers are a big market team that needs a player as global as Dwight Howard.

Ahmm... Kobe Bryant? :confused:

_Supreme_
07-14-2012, 03:15 PM
Orlando can still get Howard to la VIA Houston, And get draft picks and relief + young guys.

Orlando would end up with the Houston package in both scenarios, and I am sure Houston prefers Howard to Bynum, so why would they involve LA at all?

MagicBucsSox
07-14-2012, 03:16 PM
Orlando would end up with the Houston package in both scenarios, and I am sure Houston prefers Howard to Bynum, so why would they involve LA at all?

Because they're stupid, Bynum expressed interst in Houston so wtf is Orlando doin

Zefflin
07-14-2012, 03:16 PM
idk about this ****, it could happen, it may or may not idk, but it'd be stupid to give away the twin towers for dwight

Jint.
07-14-2012, 03:18 PM
i knew it baby! my third fav Team!

you have a 3rd favorite team..? :laugh2::laugh:

AddiX
07-14-2012, 03:20 PM
This is a bs article, he doesn't even mention whats included in the trade, instead starts rambling about everything Hou has to offer.

There's nothing here..

_Supreme_
07-14-2012, 03:21 PM
Because they're stupid, Bynum expressed interst in Houston so wtf is Orlando doin

They are being held hostage by their diva player, basically.

Really a sad trend that has been going on in the NBA recently. If it wasn't for Miami doing so well I would probably have lost interest in the whole rediculous circus a while ago already.

Eg714
07-14-2012, 03:24 PM
How about a 3 way trade with Orlando, Lakers, Houston

D Howard, Turk, Duhon to the Lakers
Bynum, J. Richardson to the Rockets
Orlando gets Gasol, Royce White, Jeremy Lamb, 2 1st founders

:facepalm:

KB-Pau-DH2012
07-14-2012, 03:24 PM
Ahmm... Kobe Bryant? :confused:

Post-Kobe.

Bynum "Mr. there's a bank in every city" just doesn't have that appeal and he doesn't embrace the city of LA as much.

Gritz
07-14-2012, 03:24 PM
Psyche

michael811
07-14-2012, 03:25 PM
How about a 3 way trade with Orlando, Lakers, Houston

D Howard, Turk, Duhon to the Lakers
Bynum, J. Richardson to the Rockets
Orlando gets Gasol, Royce White, Jeremy Lamb, 2 1st founders


Lakers aren't giving up Gasol its either Bynum and filler or the lakers will just stick with what they have

KB-Pau-DH2012
07-14-2012, 03:25 PM
How about a 3 way trade with Orlando, Lakers, Houston

D Howard, Turk, Duhon to the Lakers
Bynum, J. Richardson to the Rockets
Orlando gets Gasol, Royce White, Jeremy Lamb, 2 1st founders

That's as garbage of a trade if I've ever heard one; just stop trying to play GM. :laugh2:

Reyes6
07-14-2012, 03:27 PM
2 first founders? I'd assume they'd select George Washington and John Hancock.

C-Style
07-14-2012, 03:33 PM
How about a 3 way trade with Orlando, Lakers, Houston

D Howard, Turk, Duhon to the Lakers
Bynum, J. Richardson to the Rockets
Orlando gets Gasol, Royce White, Jeremy Lamb, 2 1st founders

Get this through ur big *** dome! LAKERS ARE NOT TRADING BYNUM & GASOL FOR DWIGHT.

rockets-fan
07-14-2012, 03:40 PM
If I'm Orlando, I'd try to get those three young Houston rookies in Jones, Lamb, and Motiejunas along with a few picks and even more. That's the best package in my opinion.

Rockets aren't trading Montejunas. I think they couldnt even if they wanted to.

STL Don
07-14-2012, 03:45 PM
Get R Done

Bynum + McRoberts for Howard

Lakers:
Nash/Blake/Morris
Bryant/Goudelock/DariusJO
Peace/G.Hill/Eyenga
Gasol/Jamison/Khazzouh
Howard/J.Hill/Sacre

Chavacano
07-14-2012, 03:53 PM
Post-Kobe.

Bynum "Mr. there's a bank in every city" just doesn't have that appeal and he doesn't embrace the city of LA as much.

But it didn't say post-Kobe. :confused:

dsonLAL24
07-14-2012, 03:55 PM
This guy has been saying Dwight was going to be a Laker weeks ago. I don't believe him.

michael811
07-14-2012, 03:58 PM
Bynum
Mcroberts
Eyenga

for
Howard
Richardson

The salaries work and it gets a back up for kobe and a bad contract off of Orlando if Dwight goes to La it would probably be with this deal

D12 fan
07-14-2012, 04:06 PM
Bynum
Mcroberts
Eyenga

for
Howard
Richardson

The salaries work and it gets a back up for kobe and a bad contract off of Orlando if Dwight goes to La it would probably be with this deal

Lakers will need to get some draft picks.

UPRock
07-14-2012, 04:41 PM
Which offer are we going the first one or the revised one that came out last night or so?

The newest one, they get Young Players with potential, Draft picks and they get rid of the bad contracts. And Houston don't care if he's a rental, just get it done!

Jarvo
07-14-2012, 04:42 PM
He's going to the Heat for Anthony, Pittman, Howard and picks next

lakersrock
07-14-2012, 04:48 PM
LA Gets
Dwight
Sideshow Bob

Cleveland Gets
Bynum
JRich

Orlando Gets
Blake (2 years)
Luke (Exp)
Gibson (Exp)
Tristan (Exp)
Casspi (Exp)
Cleveland 1st
Tyler Zeller

SACNYY
07-14-2012, 04:53 PM
Until I see that douche holding up a new jersey, I'm not believing anything.

mgsports
07-14-2012, 04:54 PM
Good Trade but who is slideshow Bob.Anderson Varejo should go in deal to.

Lakers + Giants
07-14-2012, 04:55 PM
Good Trade but who is slideshow Bob.Anderson Varejo should go in deal to.

:laugh2:

arkanian215
07-14-2012, 04:56 PM
Sheridan is not a legit source. It's as good as bleacherreport.

agureghian
07-14-2012, 04:59 PM
LA Gets
Dwight
Sideshow Bob

Cleveland Gets
Bynum
JRich

Orlando Gets
Blake (2 years)
Luke (Exp)
Gibson (Exp)
Tristan (Exp)
Casspi (Exp)
Cleveland 1st
Tyler Zeller


If I were hennigan, and that was the deal offered by the lakers, Id take the houston deal

KB-Pau-DH2012
07-14-2012, 05:15 PM
If I were hennigan, and that was the deal offered by the lakers, Id take the houston deal

Imagine if they took the Houston deal. The NBA would have the 2 best Centers, and probably the only legit protoypical big men in the game out in the West, and the East would be ****. The best East big man would probably be Roy Hibbert.

Aust
07-14-2012, 05:16 PM
Until I see more reporting from various other media outlets on this, I'll remain very skeptical.

I'd like to go back to that proposed 3 team deal with HOU getting Bynum, LA getting Howard, and ORL getting picks, young talent and cap space

StriveGreatness
07-14-2012, 05:19 PM
Alex Kennedy ‏@AlexKennedyNBA


Three-team deal may send Dwight Howard to Lakers, Andrew Bynum to Cavs and picks/prospects/cap relief to Magic. Still trying to get details.

5ass
07-14-2012, 05:22 PM
Alex Kennedy ‏@AlexKennedyNBA

waiters+Zeller+picks please.

nicegoing
07-14-2012, 05:23 PM
Alex Kennedy ‏@AlexKennedyNBA

That would be dope.

KB-Pau-DH2012
07-14-2012, 05:23 PM
Until I see more reporting from various other media outlets on this, I'll remain very skeptical.

I'd like to go back to that proposed 3 team deal with HOU getting Bynum, LA getting Howard, and ORL getting picks, young talent and cap space

Houston wont help us out. They won't give up all those young assets and picks to settle for the lesser of the two centers in the deal. Just not happening. That's why they've been trying to butt the Lakers out of the deal and going for the one-on-one deal straight up with Orlando. Basically, Fat Morey is giving the Lakers a big F-U!

StriveGreatness
07-14-2012, 05:25 PM
waiters+Zeller+picks please.

I think the Cavs would have to give up Waiters and Thompson.

BSardogan
07-14-2012, 05:26 PM
Good Trade but who is slideshow Bob.Anderson Varejo should go in deal to.

:clap::clap:

WickedBadMan
07-14-2012, 05:26 PM
Cavs would be really good...assuming Bynum stays healthy.

Thompson and Zeller + picks makes most sense IMO.

JordansBulls
07-14-2012, 05:28 PM
Alex Kennedy ‏@AlexKennedyNBA

This is just stupid. Why the hell would Orlando trade Dwight for cap relief when they could just let him go at the end of the season and hold his *** hostage?

jetsfan28
07-14-2012, 05:32 PM
This is just stupid. Why the hell would Orlando trade Dwight for cap relief when they could just let him go at the end of the season and hold his *** hostage?

Because one of those scenarios gets them picks, cap relief, and financial relief (cut salary and get Walton's presumably insurance paid 6.1 mill) while the other scenario gets them nothing?



I still like Houston's offer more. But Bynum to Cleveland and Walton's fantastic contract, a bunch of 1sts, Thompson, Zeller, and filler to Orlando does make some sense.

MagicBucsSox
07-14-2012, 05:36 PM
waiters+Zeller+picks please.

Exactly. We'd better get Waiters. Or else the cavs with him bynum Irving will be a super team in 2 yrs.

KB-Pau-DH2012
07-14-2012, 05:36 PM
This is just stupid. Why the hell would Orlando trade Dwight for cap relief when they could just let him go at the end of the season and hold his *** hostage?

They want to rebuild. Get rid of bad contracts at the same time and get nice young pieces.

If Dwight just bolts, Orland is still stuck with no real future and bad contracts.

MagicBucsSox
07-14-2012, 05:37 PM
Ans this deal don't offer a lotto pick like Houston does. Orlando is prolly saying "well let us rape u or dont get ish"

raiderposting
07-14-2012, 05:39 PM
howard wants out but its not allllllllllll his fault, magic are the ones doing the trades people. howard story could of been over a week ago.

AKA TheMamba
07-14-2012, 05:40 PM
Irving, waiters, and bynum, :smoking: nice young core assuming waiters pans out.

greg_ory_2005
07-14-2012, 05:40 PM
This deal will probably be dead by tonight. :(

Aust
07-14-2012, 05:42 PM
Exactly. We'd better get Waiters. Or else the cavs with him bynum Irving will be a super team in 2 yrs.

Been awhile since I heard that :D

I'm wondering if this whole proposal is just a leverage move so HOU gets desperate and deals for Bynum instead of Howard

KB-Pau-DH2012
07-14-2012, 05:43 PM
Ans this deal don't offer a lotto pick like Houston does. Orlando is prolly saying "well let us rape u or dont get ish"

If Orlando gets a future 1st rd pick from Cleveland along with Zeller, Waiters, Tristen Thompson and expirings from the Lakers and Cavs, and get rid of contracts like JRich and Duhon, what's not to like?

MagicBucsSox
07-14-2012, 05:49 PM
If Orlando gets a future 1st rd pick from Cleveland along with Zeller, Waiters, Tristen Thompson and expirings from the Lakers and Cavs, and get rid of contracts like JRich and Duhon, what's not to like?

Cleve's 1st will be crap will Bynum, and if we don't get Zeller and Waiters its a fail trade. Those are the positions we need most

Knick_Fever
07-14-2012, 05:49 PM
wow, I really hope this deal actually goes down. Bynum with Irving would be a great duo for years to come. Future of Cavs looks bright and Gilbert's face looks less stressed out. Atleast Cav vs. Heat games would be a little more interesting now.

popo85
07-14-2012, 05:50 PM
Wouldn't Thompson be more appealing then Waiters for you Magic fan?

Cano-Montero...
07-14-2012, 05:51 PM
another crap report... again no deal is imminent...lol

DoubleDragon
07-14-2012, 05:51 PM
Howard for Bynum

Love for Gasol

DONE:D

next.

jrm2054
07-14-2012, 05:53 PM
I call BS just like every other offer it will fall apart because Orlando will get wet feet. Why is Cleveland on bynums list though.

DoubleDragon
07-14-2012, 05:55 PM
I call BS just like every other offer it will fall apart because Orlando will get wet feet. Why is Cleveland on bynums list though.

Yeah, or they'll be "cold behind the ears"

:D you mean cold feet;)

MagicBucsSox
07-14-2012, 05:58 PM
Wouldn't Thompson be more appealing then Waiters for you Magic fan?

And undersized PF? No thank you. We're loaded at PF and with 6-8 players. We have no perimeter playmakers, not since Skip

Cano-Montero...
07-14-2012, 05:59 PM
yeah i agree...it should be waiters not TT...

plus title is misleading..its pingalore..not sheridan..

popo85
07-14-2012, 05:59 PM
I call BS just like every other offer it will fall apart because Orlando will get wet feet. Why is Cleveland on bynums list though.

Maybe he wants to play longside Irving:confused:

MagicBucsSox
07-14-2012, 06:08 PM
Like I said all along, STOP BELIEVIng THIS & KENNEDY BULL.

Trade cannot be found by a REAL insider :
However, Sam Amico of Fox Sports says he’s “looking into reported potential 3-way deal: Dwight to Lakers, cap relief to Magic, Bynum to Cavs” and is “coming up empty so far.”.

http://howardthedunk.com/2012/07/14/magic-lakers-cavaliers-talking-trade/

KB-Pau-DH2012
07-14-2012, 06:13 PM
I have the perfect trade for all 3 parties:

Lakers get:

Dwight Howard from Orlando
Anderson Varejao from Cleveland (played under Mike Brown), $17.5M over the next 2 yrs, but 2014-2015 is a Team Option.

INCOMING SALARY: $27.6

OUTGOING SALARY: $23.6




Magic get:

3 young prospects in Tristen Thompson, Tyler Zeller and Dion Waiters and Cavs 2013 1st rd pick.

Expiring contracts: Josh McBob (LAL), Boobie Gibson (CLE, team option for next season), Luke Walton (CLE), Luke Harangody (CLE), Omri Cassipi (CLE, 2013-2014 is a qualifying offer), Kelenna Azubuike (CLE, team option for next season)

Steve Blake (2 yrs, $8M left)

INCOMING SALARY: $31.3M

OUTGOING SALARY: $35.1M





Cleveland gets:

Andrew Bynum from Lakers

Jason Richardson, Chris Duhon and Big Baby Davis from Orlando

INCOMING SALARY: $32.4M

OUTGOING SALARY: $32.9M

KB-Pau-DH2012
07-14-2012, 06:16 PM
Like I said all along, STOP BELIEVIng THIS & KENNEDY BULL.

Trade cannot be found by a REAL insider :.

http://howardthedunk.com/2012/07/14/magic-lakers-cavaliers-talking-trade/

Kennedy isn't the one who initially came up with it, it was that Tommy Dee guy, whatever his name is.

Sssmush
07-14-2012, 06:17 PM
I have the perfect trade for all 3 parties:

Lakers get:

Dwight Howard from Orlando
Anderson Varejao from Cleveland (played under Mike Brown), $17.5M over the next 2 yrs, but 2014-2015 is a Team Option.

INCOMING SALARY: $27.6

OUTGOING SALARY: $23.6




Magic get:

3 young prospects in Tristen Thompson, Tyler Zeller and Dion Waiters and Cavs 2013 1st rd pick.

Expiring contracts: Josh McBob (LAL), Boobie Gibson (CLE, team option for next season), Luke Walton (CLE), Luke Harangody (CLE), Omri Cassipi (CLE, 2013-2014 is a qualifying offer), Kelenna Azubuike (CLE, team option for next season)

Steve Blake (2 yrs, $8M left)

INCOMING SALARY: $31.3M

OUTGOING SALARY: $35.1M





Cleveland gets:

Andrew Bynum from Lakers

Jason Richardson, Chris Duhon and Big Baby Davis from Orlando

INCOMING SALARY: $32.4M

OUTGOING SALARY: $32.9M

LoL that this is the second Dwight Howard trade scenario featuring Luke Walton. Luke is the prototypical bad NBA contract.

Enemey
07-14-2012, 06:19 PM
This is just pathetic by the Orlando Magic. The player does not want to play for your team anymore.

Sssmush
07-14-2012, 06:19 PM
Like, "oh, we have a new promising prospect, named Luko TurkoWaltPez. We should totally sign him to a $7.8M six year deal, or a 4 year $50M deal if another team tries to sign him."

MagicBucsSox
07-14-2012, 06:20 PM
Kennedy isn't the one who initially came up with it, it was that Tommy Dee guy, whatever his name is.

And he's just as bad

VRP723
07-14-2012, 06:23 PM
I have the perfect trade for all 3 parties:

Lakers get:

Dwight Howard from Orlando
Anderson Varejao from Cleveland (played under Mike Brown), $17.5M over the next 2 yrs, but 2014-2015 is a Team Option.

INCOMING SALARY: $27.6

OUTGOING SALARY: $23.6




Magic get:

3 young prospects in Tristen Thompson, Tyler Zeller and Dion Waiters and Cavs 2013 1st rd pick.

Expiring contracts: Josh McBob (LAL), Boobie Gibson (CLE, team option for next season), Luke Walton (CLE), Luke Harangody (CLE), Omri Cassipi (CLE, 2013-2014 is a qualifying offer), Kelenna Azubuike (CLE, team option for next season)

Steve Blake (2 yrs, $8M left)

INCOMING SALARY: $31.3M

OUTGOING SALARY: $35.1M





Cleveland gets:

Andrew Bynum from Lakers

Jason Richardson, Chris Duhon and Big Baby Davis from Orlando

INCOMING SALARY: $32.4M

OUTGOING SALARY: $32.9M

I'm not really a big basketball fan, but how is that a "perfect" trade for the Cavs when they trade Thompson, Waiters, Zeller, Varejao, a handful of other players, and then a 1st for Bynum, and have to take on three bad contracts?

Bigbadmoffo
07-14-2012, 06:24 PM
Just get it done already. Nothing against the Lakers and their fans - but Howard is easily the most hated player in the NBA right now.

I know he'll make you guys better - but he is turning into a *****.

i hate lebron, wade, artest, harden all more. Howard hasn't done anything but say he wants out.... It's the Orlando brass that has dragged this out and the media. Show me a video of howard doing and saying all the stuff reported.

cyph34
07-14-2012, 06:25 PM
Reported by @AlexKennedyNBA. Picks/Prospects/Cap Relief going to Orlando.

Bigbadmoffo
07-14-2012, 06:25 PM
I really don't know how you could reject this trade with houston? Orlando will be in the same boat with Bynum.

PC
07-14-2012, 06:26 PM
Wow, love how the tweet was so specific

Davidgta1
07-14-2012, 06:26 PM
Why do we want Dwight so bad he's only gonna leave?

BigBongTheory
07-14-2012, 06:27 PM
I have the perfect trade for all 3 parties:

Lakers get:

Dwight Howard from Orlando
Anderson Varejao from Cleveland (played under Mike Brown), $17.5M over the next 2 yrs, but 2014-2015 is a Team Option.

INCOMING SALARY: $27.6

OUTGOING SALARY: $23.6




Magic get:

3 young prospects in Tristen Thompson, Tyler Zeller and Dion Waiters and Cavs 2013 1st rd pick.

Expiring contracts: Josh McBob (LAL), Boobie Gibson (CLE, team option for next season), Luke Walton (CLE), Luke Harangody (CLE), Omri Cassipi (CLE, 2013-2014 is a qualifying offer), Kelenna Azubuike (CLE, team option for next season)

Steve Blake (2 yrs, $8M left)

INCOMING SALARY: $31.3M

OUTGOING SALARY: $35.1M





Cleveland gets:

Andrew Bynum from Lakers

Jason Richardson, Chris Duhon and Big Baby Davis from Orlando

INCOMING SALARY: $32.4M

OUTGOING SALARY: $32.9M

I love Bynum and all, but that would just be stupid for the cavs to do that trade.

Bigbadmoffo
07-14-2012, 06:27 PM
Stupid post!

jetsfan28
07-14-2012, 06:28 PM
I have the perfect trade for all 3 parties:

Lakers get:

Dwight Howard from Orlando
Anderson Varejao from Cleveland (played under Mike Brown), $17.5M over the next 2 yrs, but 2014-2015 is a Team Option.

INCOMING SALARY: $27.6

OUTGOING SALARY: $23.6




Magic get:

3 young prospects in Tristen Thompson, Tyler Zeller and Dion Waiters and Cavs 2013 1st rd pick.

Expiring contracts: Josh McBob (LAL), Boobie Gibson (CLE, team option for next season), Luke Walton (CLE), Luke Harangody (CLE), Omri Cassipi (CLE, 2013-2014 is a qualifying offer), Kelenna Azubuike (CLE, team option for next season)

Steve Blake (2 yrs, $8M left)

INCOMING SALARY: $31.3M

OUTGOING SALARY: $35.1M





Cleveland gets:

Andrew Bynum from Lakers

Jason Richardson, Chris Duhon and Big Baby Davis from Orlando

INCOMING SALARY: $32.4M

OUTGOING SALARY: $32.9M

So the Cavs trade literally all of their assets outside of Irving to get Bynum and have him leave, and a few bad multi-year deals? Trading 4 1sts, Walton's team friendly contract, and a good starting big would be awful for the Cavs even with Bynum signing an extension.

agureghian
07-14-2012, 06:28 PM
I'm not really a big basketball fan, but how is that a "perfect" trade for the Cavs when they trade Thompson, Waiters, Zeller, Varejao, a handful of other players, and then a 1st for Bynum, and have to take on three bad contracts?


I was thinking the same thing.
I think the Cavs retain some of their younger players maybe waiters.

Davidgta1
07-14-2012, 06:31 PM
I hope this is bs

Bornknick73
07-14-2012, 06:34 PM
I hope he does go to LA. Lakers are my second favorite team. Nash, Kobe and D12 are a hell of a trio. It ****s the Rockets who have tried to **** us all offseason and this craptastic theory that the Nets are NYs best team goes down in flames.

Its WIN/WIN/WIN

smith&wesson
07-14-2012, 06:36 PM
I hope this is bs

If howard goes to the lakers and wins a ship i doubt he will want to leave after that.

Arch Stanton
07-14-2012, 06:39 PM
i love bynum and all, but that would just be stupid for the cavs to do that trade.

+1

WITZ
07-14-2012, 06:39 PM
I have the perfect trade for all 3 parties:

Lakers get:

Dwight Howard from Orlando
Anderson Varejao from Cleveland (played under Mike Brown), $17.5M over the next 2 yrs, but 2014-2015 is a Team Option.

INCOMING SALARY: $27.6

OUTGOING SALARY: $23.6




Magic get:

3 young prospects in Tristen Thompson, Tyler Zeller and Dion Waiters and Cavs 2013 1st rd pick.

Expiring contracts: Josh McBob (LAL), Boobie Gibson (CLE, team option for next season), Luke Walton (CLE), Luke Harangody (CLE), Omri Cassipi (CLE, 2013-2014 is a qualifying offer), Kelenna Azubuike (CLE, team option for next season)

Steve Blake (2 yrs, $8M left)

INCOMING SALARY: $31.3M

OUTGOING SALARY: $35.1M





Cleveland gets:

Andrew Bynum from Lakers

Jason Richardson, Chris Duhon and Big Baby Davis from Orlando

INCOMING SALARY: $32.4M

OUTGOING SALARY: $32.9M

:laugh: at this being a perfect trade. No way the cavs give up all those assets.

WarriorSt
07-14-2012, 06:42 PM
Alan Hahn reporting Howard to be traded to the Lakers soon here we go guys.

BigBongTheory
07-14-2012, 06:43 PM
I still love you though KB.

WickedBadMan
07-14-2012, 06:43 PM
There is no way Cleveland will give their entire team outside of Irving even with an extension by Bynum. They clearly are very high on Waiters.

Knick_Fever
07-14-2012, 06:44 PM
Alex Kennedy ‏@AlexKennedyNBA
If Devin Ebanks signs, the Lakers can't trade him until December 15. They asked him to wait because he could be signed-and-traded to Magic.

Aust
07-14-2012, 06:45 PM
Why do we want Dwight so bad he's only gonna leave?

Where's he going to go? He'll either go to LA or a NY team, he WANTS that huge Adidas bonus. The Lakers were a preferred destination to begin with, they have a good team that can contend right away, and they'd have his bird rights (which is a very underrated thing to have).


And people who post what they think are good trades are always going to be laughed at. Just stop..

episodenone
07-14-2012, 06:48 PM
i hope it happens -- the era of the mega teams is back - not 1, not 2, not 3, but a nunch of really well put together teams -- and a bunch of teams who are the Washington generals.

with a good training camp - no one will want to play the lakers. they'll be the most feared team. maybe phil...... hahahaha

BigBongTheory
07-14-2012, 06:50 PM
If Howard got traded to the Lakers the rest of his remaining years at an elite level will be played in a Lakers uniform, His contract bonus with Adidas like the above poster apparently rewards him for being in a NY or LA setting (Not sure how correct that is but I've been told and have seen things said about it) Knicks wouldn't have the cap obviously and either would Brooklyn, and LA would have the ability to pay alot more with the owned bird rights. He would stay in LA.

FachoinaNYY
07-14-2012, 06:51 PM
Bold, Bolder, Boldest: Deal goes down, Phil Jackson returns, 3-pete/Kobe retires

KB-Pau-DH2012
07-14-2012, 06:53 PM
Alex Kennedy ‏@AlexKennedyNBA
If Devin Ebanks signs, the Lakers can't trade him until December 15. They asked him to wait because he could be signed-and-traded to Magic.

:pray:

WarriorSt
07-14-2012, 06:55 PM
Holly crap 439 guests omg omg omg omg omg.....

BigBongTheory
07-14-2012, 06:56 PM
Dwight will come to LA, He will dominate, He will be Defensive MVP, He will win the MVP, Everything I just predicted will be hexed because I'm a witch.

Young2Kinsler
07-14-2012, 06:56 PM
Yeah, this is a nothing source. Just another pointless thread that should be in the Dwight thread.

WarriorSt
07-14-2012, 06:57 PM
I am wacking off right now j/k.

BigBongTheory
07-14-2012, 07:00 PM
But I do honestly feel this is probably going to happen within the next few days, maybe sooner who knows. And I haven't been one to constantly hope everytime there is a Dwight thread. In fact, I can't remember the last time I got excited about a Dwight thread, and haven't been overly anxious. But either way, I think the trade will happen soon, Things always get quiet first when the Lakers are closing in on something and then they go ahead and do it.

If we get Dwight I'm going to feel like a spoiled kid walking around the mall again. Getting my high step on because I just got a new power ranger plushie.

_KB24_
07-14-2012, 07:00 PM
"Dwight Spotted in LA wearing a Lakers snapback"

http://www.sportsmemez.com/spotted-dwight-in-la-wearing-lakers-snapback/

Dwights trolling hard :laugh:

QUICKTRADE
07-14-2012, 07:01 PM
everybody is riding the band wagon of Howard to LA everytime there's a rumor thats why these sports writers creates a baseless story to begin with.....annoying.....when will these stories end......

Cano-Montero...
07-14-2012, 07:02 PM
just hope it ends... whoever ends up with dwight..goodluck..

theheatles
07-14-2012, 07:03 PM
lol the small markets biggest beef is with adidas and nike

BigBongTheory
07-14-2012, 07:04 PM
everybody is riding the band wagon of Howard to LA everytime there's a rumor thats why these sports writers creates a baseless story to begin with.....annoying.....when will these stories end......

That's why I hope we go 0-20 so they can hop off, but then they'll be dragging their ***** back jumping for the wheels when they start going again :laugh2: Can't change it.

BALLER R
07-14-2012, 07:05 PM
If howard goes to LA. With Nash Kobe and Dwight oh yeah and Gasol they need Phil back. I can't them winning it all with Mike Brown as their coach.

Arch Stanton
07-14-2012, 07:06 PM
“@Probballdraft: Saw @hoopsworld report but because Tyler Zeller & Dion Waiters just signed their deals with the Cavs no deal can include either for 30 days.”

“@Probballdraft: Without Zeller or Waiters best prospects other than Irving that can be included for the Magic are Tristan Thompson & darrius Morris.”

BigBongTheory
07-14-2012, 07:06 PM
I'd be happy keeping Bynum as well, just needs to stop talking out of his *** all the time, If Nash were to be the biggest acquisition for the Lakers, why wouldn't I be happy?

BALLER R
07-14-2012, 07:06 PM
lol the small markets biggest beef is with adidas and nike

No one seems to talk about this.

FachoinaNYY
07-14-2012, 07:07 PM
If the deal goes down, here is what I hate about NBA fans/NBA coverage:

We will not hear a thing about Kobe's greatness being questioned. Kobe has played alongside a prime shaq, end of career Malone/Payton (now Nash), latish in their careers Glen Rice, Horry, Eddie Jones, Prime Lamar/Gasol, and entering his prime Bynum, among others (Fisher, etc)

Who is the best player that LeBron EVER had in his time in Cleveland? Mo Williams? Old Shaq? Jameson? Here is the big picture everyone is missing in regards to LeBron leaving Cleveland - THEY NEVER BUILT AROUND HIM. The team was a shell that LeBron made look like the best team in the REGULAR season, that predictably couldn't win in the Playoffs. Yes, LeBron had his struggles along the way, but it all fell on him. We saw how far he could take a team by going off in 05, but he bottom line is the Cavs WERE NEVER A LEGIT CONTENDER.

Now I am far from a LeBron fan/apologist, but I am so sick and tired of the irrational hate he gets, while others (Kobe, with a more checkered history of being a COMPLETE ******* to teammates (we are SO quick to forget his tirade against Bynum and his demand to get traded to the bulls - "Get yours Bull's gear ready" - and the obvious off the court rape allegation) get a pass. This is not a negative on Kobe, it has been amazing to see the Lakers build around him and I have no problem with it. It just shows that some organizations (for whatever reason, the Laker mystique/location/willingness to spend) have done a good job of building around players and others haven't. In absolutely every basketball sense LeBron made the best choice for him (though I still maintain he would have made the Bulls better, if he joined in 2010, than the current heat) and with the way the Cavs failed to build around him, I can't see how anyone can blame him for leave (not withstanding, of course, The Decision).

I am not trying to make this into a Lebron issue, just please, NBA fans, get a little perspective on everything.

nickdymez
07-14-2012, 07:08 PM
If the deal goes down, here is what I hate about NBA fans/NBA coverage:

We will not hear a thing about Kobe's greatness being questioned. Kobe has played alongside a prime shaq, end of career Malone/Payton (now Nash), latish in their careers Glen Rice, Horry, Eddie Jones, Prime Lamar/Gasol, and entering his prime Bynum, among others (Fisher, etc)

Who is the best player that LeBron EVER had in his time in Cleveland? Mo Williams? Old Shaq? Jameson? Here is the big picture everyone is missing in regards to LeBron leaving Cleveland - THEY NEVER BUILT AROUND HIM. The team was a shell that LeBron made look like the best team in the REGULAR season, that predictably couldn't win in the Playoffs. Yes, LeBron had his struggles along the way, but it all fell on him. We saw how far he could take a team by going off in 05, but he bottom line is the Cavs WERE NEVER A LEGIT CONTENDER.

Now I am far from a LeBron fan/apologist, but I am so sick and tired of the irrational hate he gets, while others (Kobe, with a more checkered history of being a COMPLETE ******* to teammates (we are SO quick to forget his tirade against Bynum and his demand to get traded to the bulls - "Get yours Bull's gear ready" - and the obvious off the court rape allegation) get a pass. This is not a negative on Kobe, it has been amazing to see the Lakers build around him and I have no problem with it. It just shows that some organizations (for whatever reason, the Laker mystique/location/willingness to spend) have done a good job of building around players and others haven't. In absolutely every basketball sense LeBron made the best choice for him (though I still maintain he would have made the Bulls better, if he joined in 2010, than the current heat) and with the way the Cavs failed to build around him, I can't see how anyone can blame him for leave (not withstanding, of course, The Decision).

I am not trying to make this into a Lebron issue, just please, NBA fans, get a little perspective on everything.

You done?

ThunderousDemon
07-14-2012, 07:09 PM
If the deal goes down, here is what I hate about NBA fans/NBA coverage:

We will not hear a thing about Kobe's greatness being questioned. Kobe has played alongside a prime shaq, end of career Malone/Payton (now Nash), latish in their careers Glen Rice, Horry, Eddie Jones, Prime Lamar/Gasol, and entering his prime Bynum, among others (Fisher, etc)

Who is the best player that LeBron EVER had in his time in Cleveland? Mo Williams? Old Shaq? Jameson? Here is the big picture everyone is missing in regards to LeBron leaving Cleveland - THEY NEVER BUILT AROUND HIM. The team was a shell that LeBron made look like the best team in the REGULAR season, that predictably couldn't win in the Playoffs. Yes, LeBron had his struggles along the way, but it all fell on him. We saw how far he could take a team by going off in 05, but he bottom line is the Cavs WERE NEVER A LEGIT CONTENDER.

Now I am far from a LeBron fan/apologist, but I am so sick and tired of the irrational hate he gets, while others (Kobe, with a more checkered history of being a COMPLETE ******* to teammates (we are SO quick to forget his tirade against Bynum and his demand to get traded to the bulls - "Get yours Bull's gear ready" - and the obvious off the court rape allegation) get a pass. This is not a negative on Kobe, it has been amazing to see the Lakers build around him and I have no problem with it. It just shows that some organizations (for whatever reason, the Laker mystique/location/willingness to spend) have done a good job of building around players and others haven't. In absolutely every basketball sense LeBron made the best choice for him (though I still maintain he would have made the Bulls better, if he joined in 2010, than the current heat) and with the way the Cavs failed to build around him, I can't see how anyone can blame him for leave (not withstanding, of course, The Decision).

I am not trying to make this into a Lebron issue, just please, NBA fans, get a little perspective on everything.

How the hell did you make this about Lebron? :facepalm: Clown of the earth^

BigBongTheory
07-14-2012, 07:11 PM
If the deal goes down, here is what I hate about NBA fans/NBA coverage:

We will not hear a thing about Kobe's greatness being questioned. Kobe has played alongside a prime shaq, end of career Malone/Payton (now Nash), latish in their careers Glen Rice, Horry, Eddie Jones, Prime Lamar/Gasol, and entering his prime Bynum, among others (Fisher, etc)

Who is the best player that LeBron EVER had in his time in Cleveland? Mo Williams? Old Shaq? Jameson? Here is the big picture everyone is missing in regards to LeBron leaving Cleveland - THEY NEVER BUILT AROUND HIM. The team was a shell that LeBron made look like the best team in the REGULAR season, that predictably couldn't win in the Playoffs. Yes, LeBron had his struggles along the way, but it all fell on him. We saw how far he could take a team by going off in 05, but he bottom line is the Cavs WERE NEVER A LEGIT CONTENDER.

Now I am far from a LeBron fan/apologist, but I am so sick and tired of the irrational hate he gets, while others (Kobe, with a more checkered history of being a COMPLETE ******* to teammates (we are SO quick to forget his tirade against Bynum and his demand to get traded to the bulls - "Get yours Bull's gear ready" - and the obvious off the court rape allegation) get a pass. This is not a negative on Kobe, it has been amazing to see the Lakers build around him and I have no problem with it. It just shows that some organizations (for whatever reason, the Laker mystique/location/willingness to spend) have done a good job of building around players and others haven't. In absolutely every basketball sense LeBron made the best choice for him (though I still maintain he would have made the Bulls better, if he joined in 2010, than the current heat) and with the way the Cavs failed to build around him, I can't see how anyone can blame him for leave (not withstanding, of course, The Decision).

I am not trying to make this into a Lebron issue, just please, NBA fans, get a little perspective on everything.

He's got Dwayne Wade and Bosh now so I dont want to hear that ****, He got his ring because of his own talents and the talent around him, Not many superstars play alongside another superstar, He has talent and will for more seasons to come.

Arch Stanton
07-14-2012, 07:11 PM
“@Probballdraft: Other logistics that prevent magic, lakers, cavs swap is that Cleveland will not give up assets for Bynum without assurances he'll extend.”

FachoinaNYY
07-14-2012, 07:12 PM
You done?

fantastic response


How the hell did you make this about Lebron? :facepalm: Clown of the earth^

It is not about Lebron, as I said, its a criticism of NBA fans - its ok for Kobe because the Lakers bring him players. Its wrong for Lebron because he left.

THERE IS NO PRACTICAL DIFFERENCE!

If either of you had actually read what I wrote instad of seeing the word "LeBron" and shutting you brains off... well, you kind of proved my point.

phlp_bj
07-14-2012, 07:13 PM
http://www.sportsmemez.com/spotted-dwight-in-la-wearing-lakers-snapback/

Mr Costanza
07-14-2012, 07:14 PM
Waiting to hear:

"my sources tell me while the teams are still talking, nothing is imminent" then,

"I'm hearing the Magic are in no rush" then,

"the teams are working on the final framework" then,

"the Cavs are backing out, want too much. But the lakers are confident they can work out a deal on their own" then,

"deal is dead, Magic believe they can do better"

luke21
07-14-2012, 07:14 PM
If the deal goes down, here is what I hate about NBA fans/NBA coverage:

We will not hear a thing about Kobe's greatness being questioned. Kobe has played alongside a prime shaq, end of career Malone/Payton (now Nash), latish in their careers Glen Rice, Horry, Eddie Jones, Prime Lamar/Gasol, and entering his prime Bynum, among others (Fisher, etc)

Who is the best player that LeBron EVER had in his time in Cleveland? Mo Williams? Old Shaq? Jameson? Here is the big picture everyone is missing in regards to LeBron leaving Cleveland - THEY NEVER BUILT AROUND HIM. The team was a shell that LeBron made look like the best team in the REGULAR season, that predictably couldn't win in the Playoffs. Yes, LeBron had his struggles along the way, but it all fell on him. We saw how far he could take a team by going off in 05, but he bottom line is the Cavs WERE NEVER A LEGIT CONTENDER.

Now I am far from a LeBron fan/apologist, but I am so sick and tired of the irrational hate he gets, while others (Kobe, with a more checkered history of being a COMPLETE ******* to teammates (we are SO quick to forget his tirade against Bynum and his demand to get traded to the bulls - "Get yours Bull's gear ready" - and the obvious off the court rape allegation) get a pass. This is not a negative on Kobe, it has been amazing to see the Lakers build around him and I have no problem with it. It just shows that some organizations (for whatever reason, the Laker mystique/location/willingness to spend) have done a good job of building around players and others haven't. In absolutely every basketball sense LeBron made the best choice for him (though I still maintain he would have made the Bulls better, if he joined in 2010, than the current heat) and with the way the Cavs failed to build around him, I can't see how anyone can blame him for leave (not withstanding, of course, The Decision).

I am not trying to make this into a Lebron issue, just please, NBA fans, get a little perspective on everything.


Ummmmm this is D12 take your weak blog somewhere else...


BTW Lebron just teamed up with a top 10 player and a top 10 power forward. This offseason now he has the best 3pt shooter in NBA history.
Lebron now and for the rest of his career will have all stars and HOF players to play with.

FachoinaNYY
07-14-2012, 07:14 PM
He's got Dwayne Wade and Bosh now so I dont want to hear that ****, He got his ring because of his own talents and the talent around him, Not many superstars play alongside another superstar, He has talent and will for more seasons to come.

There is no "****" to hear; you clearly missed my point. Kobe has been brought quality talent his entire career sans a 2-3 year period after shaq/before gasol.

Kobe has played with 10 better players than the BEST Lebron has in Cleveland - think about that.

This has nothing to do with where Lebron is now/who he is playing with currently.

Arch Stanton
07-14-2012, 07:15 PM
“@Probballdraft: According to multiple sources Magic would likely get Anderson Varejao plus picks and prospects.”

FachoinaNYY
07-14-2012, 07:16 PM
Ummmmm this is D12 take your weak blog somewhere else...


BTW Lebron just teamed up with a top 10 player and a top 10 power forward. This offseason now he has onetime best 3pt shooter in NBA history.
Lebron now and for the rest of his career will have all stars and HOF players to play with.

I honestly cannot believe how the entire point went over your head.

ThunderousDemon
07-14-2012, 07:16 PM
fantastic response



It is not about Lebron, as I said, its a criticism of NBA fans - its ok for Kobe because the Lakers bring him players. Its wrong for Lebron because he left.

THERE IS NO PRACTICAL DIFFERENCE!

If either of you had actually read what I wrote instad of seeing the word "LeBron" and shutting you brains off... well, you kind of proved my point.

What's your end game, what do you hope to accomplish with your post?

BigBongTheory
07-14-2012, 07:17 PM
fantastic response



It is not about Lebron, as I said, its a criticism of NBA fans - its ok for Kobe because the Lakers bring him players. Its wrong for Lebron because he left.

THERE IS NO PRACTICAL DIFFERENCE!

If either of you had actually read what I wrote instad of seeing the word "LeBron" and shutting you brains off... well, you kind of proved my point.

I understand what your saying, but you don't think his years in Cleveland are being well made up for in Miami? Not many players have that amount of talent, and add on the talent that is around him in another superstar and that guy noone cares to speak of Chris Bosh, Put Bosh on the Raptors this upcoming season and he puts up 23 a game again.

BigBongTheory
07-14-2012, 07:18 PM
“@Probballdraft: According to multiple sources Magic would likely get Anderson Varejao plus picks and prospects.”

Weren't the Thunder supposedly offering Harden and possibly Ibaka as well? Why wouldn't they take that deal?

D12 fan
07-14-2012, 07:19 PM
howard wants out but its not allllllllllll his fault, magic are the ones doing the trades people. howard story could of been over a week ago.

:clap:Thank you,the Magic front office is being stubborn trade the guy already.

FachoinaNYY
07-14-2012, 07:19 PM
What's your end game, what do you hope to accomplish with your post?

To stop seeing the irrational/emotional responses NBA fans have to players in general (LBJ being the prime example), the "OMG WTF, SUPERSTARZ DONT EVA LEAVE THERE OWN TEAMZ!!!!" ******** needs to stop.

You really think Kobe wouldnt have left if they didnt keep getting him talent? He almost left/demanded the trade in 06, but didnt because the lakers brought in talent.

Arch Stanton
07-14-2012, 07:22 PM
Weren't the Thunder supposedly offering Harden and possibly Ibaka as well? Why wouldn't they take that deal?

Yeah that would be a better deal. Who knows what's actually on the table? The Cavs FO are usually pretty tight lipped about trades.

D12 fan
07-14-2012, 07:23 PM
i hate lebron, wade, artest, harden all more. Howard hasn't done anything but say he wants out.... It's the Orlando brass that has dragged this out and the media. Show me a video of howard doing and saying all the stuff reported.

:clap:More people are starting to see this.

FachoinaNYY
07-14-2012, 07:23 PM
I understand what your saying, but you don't think his years in Cleveland are being well made up for in Miami? Not many players have that amount of talent, and add on the talent that is around him in another superstar and that guy noone cares to speak of Chris Bosh, Put Bosh on the Raptors this upcoming season and he puts up 23 a game again.

I guess I wouldn't say it makes up for it, in the sense that it forgive the Cavs (and I am not even saying the Cavs didn't do all they could, they may well have butit clearly wasn't enough).

Regardless of who he is playing with now, it is undeniable that the cavs teams he made have the best record in the league was heinously bad. The fact that they did do so well in the regular season is probably the biggest reason it always seemed like they "failed" when in reality they were never as good of a team, especially in a playoff basketball setting, as their regular season record indicated.

BigBongTheory
07-14-2012, 07:23 PM
To stop seeing the irrational/emotional responses NBA fans have to players in general (LBJ being the prime example), the "OMG WTF, SUPERSTARZ DONT EVA LEAVE THERE OWN TEAMZ!!!!" ******** needs to stop.

You really think Kobe wouldnt have left if they didnt keep getting him talent? He almost left/demanded the trade in 06, but didnt because the lakers brought in talent.

Well the talent around Kobe wasn't exactly existent so I won't be upset thinking back about that, When Smush Parker, Chris Mihm, etc are the top guys getting talked about besides Kobe you got a problem, I think he took it as the organization cares about the Name on his back and the money more than building a team that can compete. Year after year the Suns decided to whoop our *** in the playoffs, those teams weren't going anywhere. I can honestly say in those days I would have loved to have Varejao, Gibson, Mo Williams, Ilgauskas, etc. (for how much people put them down.) They have all been consistent role players in some point of their careers. I think Gibson benefited the most from Lebron though.

Mr Costanza
07-14-2012, 07:24 PM
Weren't the Thunder supposedly offering Harden and possibly Ibaka as well? Why wouldn't they take that deal?

Because these reporters never heard the phrase "Believe none of what you hear and half of what you see"

Most of these reports are at the very least partially made up.

D12 fan
07-14-2012, 07:24 PM
This is just pathetic by the Orlando Magic. The player does not want to play for your team anymore.

:clap:

BigBongTheory
07-14-2012, 07:26 PM
Yeah that would be a better deal. Who knows what's actually on the table? The Cavs FO are usually pretty tight lipped about trades.

Well they been talking about smokescreens and ****. Yeah I get you, i doubt the Thunder offered Ibaka and Harden, that would have been accepted by now, and really wouldn't understand it a whole lot from OKC's view.

Aust
07-14-2012, 07:27 PM
Waiting to hear:

"my sources tell me while the teams are still talking, nothing is imminent" then,

"I'm hearing the Magic are in no rush" then,

"the teams are working on the final framework" then,

"the Cavs are backing out, want too much. But the lakers are confident they can work out a deal on their own" then,

"deal is dead, Magic believe they can do better"

I'm expecting this.

And stop derailing the thread Fachoina

Arch Stanton
07-14-2012, 07:28 PM
Well they been talking about smokescreens and ****. Yeah I get you, i doubt the Thunder offered Ibaka and Harden, that would have been accepted by now, and really wouldn't understand it a whole lot from OKC's view.

“@Probballdraft: In Oklahoma City, there are a lot of fans of Varejao. *Connect the dots plus Rob Hennigan would have a great trade chip for later.”

BigBongTheory
07-14-2012, 07:29 PM
“@Probballdraft: In Oklahoma City, there are a lot of fans of Varejao. *Connect the dots plus Rob Hennigan would have a great trade chip for later.”

So a Cavs, Magic, Okc trade? That's completely possible.

Mr Costanza
07-14-2012, 07:30 PM
I'm expecting this.

And stop derailing the thread Fachoina

Lol my apologies. Just trying to save everyone some time. Please go back to your speculation.

ldawg
07-14-2012, 07:30 PM
The howard rumors are boring they have lost zest, this has to be the longest rumored trade in history.

D12 fan
07-14-2012, 07:30 PM
There is no "****" to hear; you clearly missed my point. Kobe has been brought quality talent his entire career sans a 2-3 year period after shaq/before gasol.

Kobe has played with 10 better players than the BEST Lebron has in Cleveland - think about that.

This has nothing to do with where Lebron is now/who he is playing with currently.

Dude why are you talking Lebron in a Dwight thread?

MagicBucsSox
07-14-2012, 07:31 PM
I retracted my earlier statement


Sam Amico
Been told by several trusted sources now that talks between Lakers, Cavs & Magic are real. "Cavs, as usual, being a big pain," said one. But they want assurances Bynum would sign extension before even thinking about it..

BigBongTheory
07-14-2012, 07:31 PM
PSD traffic will go to an all-time low after Dwight is traded.

Donuts365
07-14-2012, 07:33 PM
i got banned for quoting porn i didnt even know that was iilegal on facebook i share it with my friends and the worse part about is i didnt even read the rules of this site they shouldnt gave me a ticket like police no warnings nothing why hasnt domefavors had this treatment yet?

FachoinaNYY
07-14-2012, 07:33 PM
Well the talent around Kobe wasn't exactly existent so I won't be upset thinking back about that, When Smush Parker, Chris Mihm, etc are the top guys getting talked about besides Kobe you got a problem, I think he took it as the organization cares about the Name on his back and the money more than building a team that can compete. Year after year the Suns decided to whoop our *** in the playoffs, those teams weren't going anywhere. I can honestly say in those days I would have loved to have Varejao, Gibson, Mo Williams, Ilgauskas, etc. for how much people put them down.

I mentioned in the another post about the post shaq/pre gasol period, you have to remember that followed a period of 3 straight championship (and a loss in the fourth) and for straight finals appearances overall. So you clearly have a little more leniency in the rebuilding process there in terms of timing. Lebron had 7 (?) years to make it work in Cleveland and there was zero indication that they could ever get better than what they were (always were going to draft late and NO FA were interested in joining). The lakers always seem to be able to talent to come, in a way that Cleveland will likely never see.

D12 fan
07-14-2012, 07:33 PM
I retracted my earlier statement

.

Thank you for owning up MBS.:clap:

kntresistheheat
07-14-2012, 07:33 PM
I just hope the trade goes through!

FachoinaNYY
07-14-2012, 07:35 PM
Dude why are you talking Lebron in a Dwight thread?

In regards to the treatment of Kobe v. Lebron and the perception that Lebron had to leave to chase a ring (while Kobe was spoon fed consistent talent)

My original comment is back a page or two if you actually care.

Cano-Montero...
07-14-2012, 07:36 PM
Yeah that would be a better deal. Who knows what's actually on the table? The Cavs FO are usually pretty tight lipped about trades.

same for LA front office.. as for varejao going to magic..doesnt make sense at all...:confused:

ThunderousDemon
07-14-2012, 07:38 PM
i got banned for quoting porn i didnt even know that was iilegal on facebook i share it with my friends and the worse part about is i didnt even read the rules of this site they shouldnt gave me a ticket like police no warnings nothing why hasnt domefavors had this treatment yet?

Wrong thread, guy.

*Superman*
07-14-2012, 07:41 PM
i got banned for quoting porn i didnt even know that was iilegal on facebook i share it with my friends and the worse part about is i didnt even read the rules of this site they shouldnt gave me a ticket like police no warnings nothing why hasnt domefavors had this treatment yet?

:laugh2:

MagicBucsSox
07-14-2012, 07:42 PM
Trade has to involve Waiters

Young2Kinsler
07-14-2012, 07:45 PM
Good ole Abe

WITZ
07-14-2012, 07:46 PM
Trade has to involve Waiters

He nor Zeller can't be traded for a month. doubt that happens they will probably get tristan thompson as there top prospect.

nicegoing
07-14-2012, 07:46 PM
whoa dere boi

mikekhelxD
07-14-2012, 07:47 PM
i got banned for quoting porn i didnt even know that was iilegal on facebook i share it with my friends and the worse part about is i didnt even read the rules of this site they shouldnt gave me a ticket like police no warnings nothing why hasnt domefavors had this treatment yet?

LOL. Isn't the contract you agreed upon, the site's rule during registration, sufficient enough?

mikekhelxD
07-14-2012, 07:51 PM
Here we go again...

Cano-Montero...
07-14-2012, 07:52 PM
wonder how this negotiations happen when our gm is watching the summer league...lol


https://twitter.com/LakersReporter/status/224288240474140672/photo/1

Evolution23
07-14-2012, 07:55 PM
IF this happens I'll be very excited about Knicks vs Lakers finals.

WhiteSoxGod
07-14-2012, 07:57 PM
IF this happens I'll be very excited about Knicks vs Lakers finals.

:laugh: "This coming in..... Delusions from fantasy land"

ThunderousDemon
07-14-2012, 07:58 PM
IF this happens I'll be very excited about Knicks vs Lakers finals.


You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one......
- Evolution23


lol

mgsports
07-14-2012, 07:58 PM
The Cavs are seeking assurances from Bynum that the big man would sign an extension with the team before talks intensify, says Sam Amico of FOX Sports Ohio (Sulia link).

5ass
07-14-2012, 07:59 PM
He nor Zeller can't be traded for a month. doubt that happens they will probably get tristan thompson as there top prospect.

lmao if thats true the magic would not accept, we can wait a month. We're in no hurry.

ThunderousDemon
07-14-2012, 08:00 PM
The Bynum-Irving duo, interesting.

D12 fan
07-14-2012, 08:02 PM
The Cavs are seeking assurances from Bynum that the big man would sign an extension with the team before talks intensify, says Sam Amico of FOX Sports Ohio (Sulia link).

We heard this before talks will intensify tonight then the deal will fall apart in the morning.

nicegoing
07-14-2012, 08:03 PM
nevermind

*Superman*
07-14-2012, 08:03 PM
The Bynum-Irving duo, interesting.

I'm wondering is that the only reason he wants to go to Cleveland as opposed to Orlando? If Houston wants to low ball, I'd love to get Bynum then (as long as he signs a contract extension)

J4KOP99
07-14-2012, 08:04 PM
Bynum will re-sign... I don't understand why that is even an issue. Have people not seen his comments on this subject?

The guys wants 2 things:

-His max $$ deal

-To play

He doesn't care where. Also, him and kyrie would be one hell of a 1-2 punch.

ThunderousDemon
07-14-2012, 08:05 PM
I'm wondering is that the only reason he wants to go to Cleveland as opposed to Orlando? If Houston wants to low ball, I'd love to get Bynum then (as long as he signs a contract extension)

He won't sign a contract extension because he'll most likely want a max contract.

Cano-Montero...
07-14-2012, 08:05 PM
HE will resign but not extend... dont know why a lot is making this issue big...

he wont extend coz its only for 3 years..

he will resign for 5 years 100 mil..

*Superman*
07-14-2012, 08:07 PM
HE will resign but not extend... dont know why a lot is making this issue big...

he wont extend coz its only for 3 years..

he will resign for 5 years 100 mil..

Teams don't want him walking in FA.

D12 fan
07-14-2012, 08:15 PM
Irving/Bynum would make a great duo,both are young and can grow together.Dan Gilbert should be all over this deal he would have to young stars to build around.

BigCityofDreams
07-14-2012, 08:15 PM
He won't sign a contract extension because he'll most likely want a max contract.

And that's why by Sunday morning the talk will die down. Every team involved knows the major pieces won't extend.

Cano-Montero...
07-14-2012, 08:22 PM
Teams don't want him walking in FA.

no chance bynum extend even with lakers... he is more about the money.. so I he will let contract expire and sign new 5 yr deal.. he wont leave 25 mil on the table to bolt to another team..

*Superman*
07-14-2012, 08:25 PM
no chance bynum extend even with lakers... he is more about the money.. so I he will let contract expire and sign new 5 yr deal.. he wont leave 25 mil on the table to bolt to another team..

True, so the Cavs have to take him for his word then?

Then know how that ended with LeBron

Cano-Montero...
07-14-2012, 08:28 PM
True, so the Cavs have to take him for his word then?

Then know how that ended with LeBron

did the same cba applied during that time? where 25 mil is the difference for 1 year?

PhlyHighPhilly
07-14-2012, 08:30 PM
I feel like this has become a Favre situation

Mr Costanza
07-14-2012, 08:40 PM
So has "imminent" turned into "no hurry" yet?

GREATNESS ONE
07-14-2012, 08:45 PM
Yea no way Bynum is leaving 25 mill on the table, no way.

popo85
07-14-2012, 08:47 PM
Rockets will get him per that Tony Mejia guy's tweet

dsonLAL24
07-14-2012, 08:49 PM
Bynum said he would consider signing extension with Cavs.

MagicBucsSox
07-14-2012, 08:54 PM
Rockets have to still be favs, their rookies aren't signed like waiters n zeller

Sssmush
07-14-2012, 08:58 PM
arrggghhhhh

OK. I am the first one to crack.


MAKE IT STOP!!!! I CAN'T STAND IT ANYMORE. WE ARE STUCK IN A LOOP SAYING THE SAME THINGS OVER AND OVER!!!!

Sssmush
07-14-2012, 09:01 PM
I admit defeat.

The ****ing sportscasters and analysts and Stephen As and Skip Buchers or whatever what the **** have WON. Ok? They have overwhelmed with so many worthless ****ing tweets and leaks and BS rumors and stories, I just totally give up.

JUST MAKE IT STOP!!

Just give Dwight to the Knicks or something. Houston. Anything. Just finish this. Orlando has finished itself as a franchise; it's milked this publicity long enough. Now end the story and we can just forget you.

shep33
07-14-2012, 09:02 PM
I still think Houston would be the front runner. Maybe ATL next, and the Lakers would be next (but a long shot at that).

310Casper
07-14-2012, 09:05 PM
After all this endless drama I've decided to only check my twitter once every 3 days going forward. Sick of all the same rumors. just make a decision already

rockets-fan
07-14-2012, 09:05 PM
I still see a three team tradw with the Lakers and Rockets happening. It seems to make sense for all three teams. Just make it happen already this is getting old.

KB-Pau-DH2012
07-14-2012, 09:05 PM
I hate that ugly fatass Morey so much! :mad:

Mave1002
07-14-2012, 09:06 PM
I still think Houston would be the front runner. Maybe ATL next, and the Lakers would be next (but a long shot at that).

Alot of people picked "NYK" as the "frontrunner" for that other thing. Voila ;)

rockets-fan
07-14-2012, 09:06 PM
I hate that ugly fatass Morey so much! :mad:

Why?

KB-Pau-DH2012
07-14-2012, 09:07 PM
Why?

Because he will ruin the Lakers' chances of getting Dwight lol.

rockets-fan
07-14-2012, 09:09 PM
Alot of people picked "NYK" as the "frontrunner" for that other thing. Voila ;)

Completely different scenario. This is a trade not a decision that a player is making like LeBron was. If this was the case Howard would have been a Net a while ago. This is the teams decision thats taking so long.

That is if you were talking about James haha

Cano-Montero...
07-14-2012, 09:10 PM
just trade him to the rockets already..

rockets-fan
07-14-2012, 09:11 PM
Because he will ruin the Lakers' chances of getting Dwight lol.

Lakers will always be fine dont worry lol

D12 fan
07-14-2012, 09:17 PM
Because he will ruin the Lakers' chances of getting Dwight lol.

lol

Draco
07-14-2012, 09:36 PM
Alot of people picked "NYK" as the "frontrunner" for that other thing. Voila ;)

Chris Sheridan was among those people.

+pope+
07-14-2012, 09:41 PM
The Rockets are by far the frontrunners. Things can change, if( a huge if) both bynum agree to the trade and Howard agree to sign extensions the Lakers will then be the favorite.

NBA_Starter
07-14-2012, 09:50 PM
Just send him somewhere already please at this point I just can't root for the guy.

shep33
07-14-2012, 09:51 PM
I almost don't want him to go to Houston because it'll just be the silence before the storm... again.

But I can see Morey going all out to pair D12 with Lin. If D12 goes there, I hope he stays. Can't take much more of this

Sly Guy
07-14-2012, 09:53 PM
wait wait wait, so the article spends 70% of it's time talking about what houston can offer that LA can't, yet Howard's gonna be a laker? Are we to assume this is a Howard for Bynum straight up?

Aust
07-14-2012, 11:35 PM
Bynum won't extend with anyone. He'll most likely resign for max$ with whoever has his bird rights. I won't put too much into his list, but the teams on it have an advantage, a better shot at keeping him long-term.

All he wants is a max money deal and to play, most likely with a higher role on the team he's on.

shep33
07-14-2012, 11:47 PM
Yeah, I just can't see Drew leaving $25 mill or whatever on the table

kblo247
07-14-2012, 11:52 PM
Yeah, I just can't see Drew leaving $25 mill or whatever on the table

I can see it with the Cavs. Gilbert would suck his dick, put his whole family on payroll, give him the key to the city, put his face in front of Quickens Loans and his casinos, and write a letter to the world proclaiming him a savior. Of all the places, Cleeveland and Gilbert just seem like the most likely to kiss Andrews *** and treat him like a god compared to other cities

Aust
07-15-2012, 12:00 AM
I can see it with the Cavs. Gilbert would suck his dick, put his whole family on payroll, give him the key to the city, put his face in front of Quickens Loans and his casinos, and write a letter to the world proclaiming him a savior. Of all the places, Cleeveland and Gilbert just seem like the most likely to kiss Andrews *** and treat him like a god compared to other cities

lol I wonder what gave you that idea:p

Ty Fast
07-15-2012, 12:17 AM
i hope the old time Finals matchup happens you know the the Knicks v. Lakers one!

knicks aint makin the finals. they wont even get out of the 1st round. they arnt even the best team in their city.

Arch Stanton
07-15-2012, 12:27 AM
I can see it with the Cavs. Gilbert would suck his dick, put his whole family on payroll, give him the key to the city, put his face in front of Quickens Loans and his casinos, and write a letter to the world proclaiming him a savior. Of all the places, Cleeveland and Gilbert just seem like the most likely to kiss Andrews *** and treat him like a god compared to other cities

Wow! I take it you would prefer this not to happen? Can't a guy geta chance to redeem himself?

shep33
07-15-2012, 12:42 AM
Lakers talking to Bynum's agent recently about an extension.