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dh144498
07-10-2012, 04:17 PM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...&sct=hp_t12_a0

"Yesterday,'' said an Asian reporter to Bryant, "you said that you are the best player in the post other than Tyson Chandler. That being said...''
And Bryant interrupted him.
"No, no, no,'' said Bryant. "Not `other than Tyson Chandler.' The best post player, period. Tyson Chandler's not in that conversation.''


:worthy::worthy:

Maybe Lord Mamba knows something no one else does. :worthy:

Bruno
07-10-2012, 04:19 PM
:laugh2:

too bad we haven't been able to see mid-post Bryant since the month period between Bynums injury, and the Gasol trade in 2008.

Iron24th
07-10-2012, 04:19 PM
He's right, maybe Melo could be in the conversation and that's it.

greg_ory_2005
07-10-2012, 04:20 PM
Kobe said it. So it must be true.

justjames
07-10-2012, 04:22 PM
He probably is which is sad.

KniCks4LiFe
07-10-2012, 04:23 PM
:pity:

jmoney85
07-10-2012, 04:23 PM
im getting sick of kobe talking about himself.... hes not the player he used to be

sixers247
07-10-2012, 04:23 PM
I can't wait til Kobe says something about a **** he took. The thread for that quote will be up in a second.

khaleesi
07-10-2012, 04:24 PM
Sad state of affairs for today's big. Their footwork sucks and Kobe's is so good.

He is smoother than Melo. Melo is bigger.

Ezio
07-10-2012, 04:25 PM
He has a point, but that's because they took a dunker instead of a post player.

dh144498
07-10-2012, 04:25 PM
breaking news: kobe went to the bathroom

Hawkeye15
07-10-2012, 04:27 PM
who caressssssssss

AddiX
07-10-2012, 04:27 PM
Sad state of affairs for today's big. Their footwork sucks and Kobe's is so good.

He is smoother than Melo. Melo is bigger.

Melo manhandles Kobe in the post, in the playoffs lakers use to dibble and triple team melo everytime he was in the post, Kobe had no chance.

Avenged
07-10-2012, 04:28 PM
"Tyson Chandler's not in that conversation"

:laugh2: :clap:

justinnum1
07-10-2012, 04:29 PM
:yawn:

justjames
07-10-2012, 04:30 PM
I think its funny SI didn't bother finding out if the Asian reporter is Chinese, Japanese, Korean, etc....

Would they run a story saying " a European reporter" rather than "a Spanish reporter"?

SirSkyHook
07-10-2012, 04:31 PM
Its funny how everyone is so sick of kobe but when a thread is made about him their the first to jump on it. What Kobe said is ture and his ego is what makes him who he his. If he care what negative people thought he would be Jason Richardson, or clam up in clutch situations like Lebron ( not a knock, just honesty).

keetyweedy
07-10-2012, 04:32 PM
He also said Lakers still had a chance last yr after being down 3-0 to dallas....Game 4 Dallas hit 20 three's lol

BigBongTheory
07-10-2012, 04:33 PM
Hawkeye and Justinnum got here before me, And Justinnum did the :yawnIdontgiveashiteventhoughimherepostin: face.

I love Colby more, I should get here first everytime. :sigh:

Gritz
07-10-2012, 04:35 PM
Obviously

Cfrey
07-10-2012, 04:37 PM
kobe is a ****ing idiot

Showtime Steve
07-10-2012, 04:37 PM
Did he mention kyrie crossing him?

MintBerryCrunch
07-10-2012, 04:37 PM
I love his confidence haha

RonE Coleman
07-10-2012, 04:37 PM
Carmelo Anthony is the best post player on the Olympic team and its not even close.

D-Leethal
07-10-2012, 04:38 PM
He's right. Him, Melo and Love although Love faces up more than posts and toasts.

goose14741
07-10-2012, 04:45 PM
Kobe is the most talented basketball player in the history of the nba skill wise. Let him talk **** he deserves it

Lakeshow24KB
07-10-2012, 04:46 PM
Well his footwork in the post is one of the best in the league. He even called up The Dream for help on his post

Hawkeye15
07-10-2012, 04:51 PM
Hawkeye and Justinnum got here before me, And Justinnum did the :yawnIdontgiveashiteventhoughimherepostin: face.

I love Colby more, I should get here first everytime. :sigh:

I mean, do you care?

Hawkeye15
07-10-2012, 04:51 PM
Kobe is the most talented basketball player in the history of the nba skill wise. Let him talk **** he deserves it

Larry Bird says you're wrong.

nbrod
07-10-2012, 04:52 PM
Probably the big guys on the team don't really go back to the basket much

smith&wesson
07-10-2012, 04:55 PM
Actually he is i dont understand what the dispute is.

b@llhog24
07-10-2012, 04:56 PM
Melo says hi.

Hawkeye15
07-10-2012, 04:56 PM
I mean, Melo is the only one with a case if you look at it, otherwise, yes, Kobe is fundamentally our best post player. Griffin has zero post moves, Love is more of an inside/outside guy who uses up and unders and a baby hook once in a blue moon, and Chandler isnt an offensive player. LeBron may be our best next time around if we don't send any legit post players since he finally figured out being 6'9", 275 lbs gives you an advantage down low.

Hawkeye15
07-10-2012, 04:56 PM
that being said, Kobe doesn't have the same lift anymore, he isn't as good around the rim as he used to be. Most of his attempts come from midrange at this point.

b@llhog24
07-10-2012, 04:59 PM
kobe is a ****ing idiot

Actually he's quite intelligent. :confused:


Larry Bird says you're wrong.

:burn:

The goods
07-10-2012, 05:05 PM
Yeah the guy learned from the best in hakeem the dream sad but its true.

basketfan4life
07-10-2012, 05:05 PM
:yawn:

just for the sake of posting right ? Man this is not a chat room, for the last time, get a life.

The goods
07-10-2012, 05:07 PM
I love melo offensively he makes the game look easy but Kobe is better atleast for now espically pound for pound it isn't close.

DerekRE_3
07-10-2012, 05:09 PM
Coulda had Boogie...

Da Knicks
07-10-2012, 05:14 PM
melo should slap him...

Laker Legend42
07-10-2012, 05:15 PM
who caressssssssss

I guess there will be a thread every time this dude is interviewed

naps
07-10-2012, 05:16 PM
Kobe is the GOAT. His words are FACTS (even when he cheats and rape random chicks).

Fly
07-10-2012, 05:19 PM
just for the sake of posting right ? Man this is not a chat room, for the last time, get a life.

Telling someone to get a life on an internet message board. Man, you're so intense.

RonE Coleman
07-10-2012, 05:23 PM
Serious thread? Kobe is more of a jump shooter at this point in his career. Although hes still great


Melo is by far the best "post player" on the the Olympic roster. Isn't this obvious when he starts at Power Forward?

NYY 26 to 7
07-10-2012, 05:26 PM
Yea I don't know if I saw chandler post once all season. But I'd say melo is better because he is stronger and post high mid range and low block and knock melo anyway you want but the man can score in a post situation back to the basket or face up.

Eg714
07-10-2012, 05:27 PM
Kobe has the best footwork I every seen. He is a beast in the post.

SportsFanatic10
07-10-2012, 05:28 PM
hes probably right as far as post skills/moves. but as far as effectiveness lebrons on his level down there now with his size advantage and passing out of doubles ability.

RonE Coleman
07-10-2012, 05:29 PM
hes probably right as far as post skills/moves. but as far as effectiveness lebrons on his level down there now with his size advantage and passing out of doubles ability.

Dick rider. Lebron finally starts posting up after 9 years and now hes on his own level... Good to know

SportsFanatic10
07-10-2012, 05:32 PM
Dick rider. Lebron finally starts posting up after 9 years and now hes on his own level... Good to know

lol where did i say hes on his own level. learn how to read. and we all knew lebron could be amazing in the post if he just learned to do it. that process has started. the stats back me up from last season if you actually looked them up. i'm done with you, i remember you as a dumb*** troll from the knicks heat series when you guys got beat down and you still talked **** hahaha. you can go :cry: in the corner now.

RonE Coleman
07-10-2012, 05:37 PM
lol where did i say hes on his own level. learn how to read. and we all knew lebron could be amazing in the post if he just learned to do it. that process has started. i'm done with you, i remember you as a dumb*** troll form the knicks heat series when you guys got beat down and you still talked **** hahaha. you can go :cry: in the corner now.

Thats Funny. My account was actually banned during that series. Good to know I left a lasting impression though.

I did read your post wrong, I thought you said on his own level but that is besides the point now.

Do you really expect people to cry in the corner over an internet forum? Only a 14 year old boy would say something like that. Do you have hairs on your nuts yet?

SportsFanatic10
07-10-2012, 05:40 PM
Thats Funny. My account was actually banned during that series. Good to know I left a lasting impression though.

I did read your post wrong, I thought you said on his own level but that is besides the point now.

Do you really expect people to cry in the corner over an internet forum? Only a 14 year old boy would say something like that. Do you have hairs on your nuts yet?

that usually happens to trolls. it was your posts leading up to the series.

oh good one about the nuts...did yours drop yet? you post like a kid so you get treated like one. why does that surprise you?

lakerboy
07-10-2012, 05:40 PM
They should try to get Tim Duncan

RonE Coleman
07-10-2012, 05:49 PM
that usually happens to trolls. it was your posts leading up to the series.

oh good one about the nuts...did yours drop yet? you post like a kid so you get treated like one. why does that surprise you?

Good job. Good Effort. Real intuitive. See Dictionary for definition

basketfan4life
07-10-2012, 05:51 PM
Kobe is the GOAT. His words are FACTS (even when he cheats and rape random chicks).

I always have a feeling that rapin thing of Kobe has some affect in your life.

kevin41
07-10-2012, 05:51 PM
ewww lebron or melo then kobe

SportsFanatic10
07-10-2012, 05:53 PM
Good job. Good Effort. Real intuitive. See Dictionary for definition

another weak post...congrats, you're almost at 2,000 of them now.

b@llhog24
07-10-2012, 05:54 PM
How does a thread about post play end up talking about another guys nuts? :pity:

Cubby
07-10-2012, 07:16 PM
Well... he is. lol

KB-Pau-DH2012
07-10-2012, 07:19 PM
naps trolling HARD again.


And this time man, I'm not gonna let up on you. Enough is enough. You're talking about all this rape **** that wasn't even true. I know deep down inside how much you hate Kobe Bryant. You hate Kobe more than you like dickriding LeBron.

I always try to come to a middle ground with you. But no more! Try to come at me and I will shred you into little pieces!!!!! :mad:

MickeyMgl
07-10-2012, 07:24 PM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...&sct=hp_t12_a0

"Yesterday,'' said an Asian reporter to Bryant, "you said that you are the best player in the post other than Tyson Chandler. That being said...''
And Bryant interrupted him.
"No, no, no,'' said Bryant. "Not `other than Tyson Chandler.' The best post player, period. Tyson Chandler's not in that conversation.''


:worthy::worthy:

Maybe Lord Mamba knows something no one else does. :worthy:

:):confused::eyebrow:

You think nobody else agrees with him? I think before last season it would have been obvious. After last season, Lebron makes it a debate, but that's it.

Avenged
07-10-2012, 07:28 PM
Kobe is the GOAT. His words are FACTS (even when he cheats and rape random chicks).

No need to be bitter on Kobe having an opinion about himself.

Hawkeye15
07-10-2012, 07:36 PM
No need to be bitter on Kobe having an opinion about himself.

How dare he give an opinion of his game.

Raph12
07-10-2012, 07:36 PM
Tyson's post game is nonexistant; Kobe has a valid case for best post game... With that being said, I think Lebron might be more efficient/dominant in the post, sort of like the Bynum to Dwight comparison.

MickeyMgl
07-10-2012, 07:39 PM
He's right, maybe Melo could be in the conversation and that's it.

I forgot about Melo. Yeah, I'd say on this team it's close, but...
1. Anthony
2. Kobe
3. Lebron
4. Love
5. Durant
6. Griffin

Then one or two of the other guards, and then Chandler.

Cfrey
07-10-2012, 07:40 PM
he can have an opinion on his game but he thinks he's the best player in the post hahahahahhahaha :facepalm:

bearadonisdna
07-10-2012, 07:42 PM
If Kobe says that then its true.

Id give my honorable mention to Griffin tho.

Hawkeye15
07-10-2012, 07:45 PM
If Kobe says that then its true.

Id give my honorable mention to Griffin tho.

Griffin is pretty meh on the post.

llemon
07-10-2012, 07:45 PM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...&sct=hp_t12_a0

"Yesterday,'' said an Asian reporter to Bryant, "you said that you are the best player in the post other than Tyson Chandler. That being said...''
And Bryant interrupted him.
"No, no, no,'' said Bryant. "Not `other than Tyson Chandler.' The best post player, period. Tyson Chandler's not in that conversation.''


:worthy::worthy:

Maybe Lord Mamba knows something no one else does. :worthy:

It's no wonder that Kobe is beloved by admirers of the humble.

Kobe is all about team.

Teeboy1487
07-10-2012, 07:46 PM
Kobe is the best in the world. It's time for PSD to look at my avatar :clap:.

STL Don
07-10-2012, 07:47 PM
He probably is which is sad.

I wouldn't say sad.
His offensive creativity is a true work of Art.

RonE Coleman
07-10-2012, 07:48 PM
If Kobe says that then its true.

Id give my honorable mention to Griffin tho.

Excuse me what? Blake Griffin :facepalm:

KnicksR4Real
07-10-2012, 07:52 PM
Melo is much better in the post

NYflightboy
07-10-2012, 07:53 PM
Kobe probably has the best post moves. But Melo is stronger and more effective down low. Melo makes his living in the post. Lebron is a beast in the post too but he doesn't do it enough. I think Lebron could be the best but he usually starts off out on the perimeter. I guess he's a better facilitator from there.

bearadonisdna
07-10-2012, 07:55 PM
Excuse me what? Blake Griffin :facepalm:

Whats so bad about it?
He has a good fg% and isnt known as an outside shooter. I like his chances for post scoring.

But im not married to the idea, so.....

Slug3
07-10-2012, 07:56 PM
Honestly there just is not that many good post players on the team. Kobe, Melo and maybe even Lebron are pretty much it. Without Howard and Bosh we really don't have players who are great in the post. And even Bosh likes to play outside to inside.

C-Style
07-10-2012, 08:01 PM
Only thing Kobe lacks is strength and size, but other then that without a question.

JasonJohnHorn
07-10-2012, 08:06 PM
Yeah... he's probably got the best post moves. Kevin Love has got some, and Melo and LBJ, but Melo is better working off the elbow and LBJ's post game isn't as refined as Kobe's, but yeah... there is something lacking in the post game for the olympic team.

dh144498
07-10-2012, 08:42 PM
How dare he give an opinion of his game.

it's the fact that he said "even when he cheats and rape random chicks" that shows his bitterness. What does that have to do with his game?

Hawkeye15
07-10-2012, 09:32 PM
it's the fact that he said "even when he cheats and rape random chicks" that shows his bitterness. What does that have to do with his game?

it has absolutely nothing to do with Kobe's game haha

Losoway
07-10-2012, 09:32 PM
this dude kobe is trying way too hard this off season. i never seen him talk so much

melo is way better then kobe in the post . its not even close

3RDASYSTEM
07-10-2012, 09:43 PM
I bet he wont admit to backing up the 1st ballet HOF's ...nevermind they were just good players

hey PSD let me know if EDDIE JONES or VAN EXEL are surefire 1st ballot HOF's, then i would understand how a top 5 player of alltime can ride the pine for a few yrs,he'd get a free pass

his postup game is the best, the clone has a point, especially since he patterned it right after his fav player,MJ...JORDAN post game is sick, and in the infamous words of LAKERLAND fans....he's 'mastered' JORDANs game so that makes him better and by default have the best post game on team USA,sorry BRON/MELO

damn we are lost as sports fans

RonE Coleman
07-10-2012, 09:46 PM
Whats so bad about it?
He has a good fg% and isnt known as an outside shooter. I like his chances for post scoring.

But im not married to the idea, so.....

Can someone deal with this man? The clips run pick and roll all the time... blake gets the ball on the move... blake dunks... result = high fg%

He DOES NOT have a good post game whatsoever

C-Style
07-10-2012, 09:56 PM
this dude kobe is trying way too hard this off season. i never seen him talk so much

melo is way better then kobe in the post . its not even close

:facepalm:

C-Style
07-10-2012, 09:57 PM
Its always the usual hater suspects hating. lol

Hotone1401
07-10-2012, 10:22 PM
Can't believe how many idiots are on PSD nowadays. No **** Kobe is the best post player on the team. Do you honestly think anybody on the team is going to argue that?? Saying Melo is better than Kobe in the post is along the same lines as saying Bynum is better than Kobe in the post because their both a lot bigger than him :facepalm:

I would bet that Melo would admit Kobe is better in the post as well but I'm sure that makes no difference because you Kobe haters will never admit Kobe is the best at anything.

Kenny
07-10-2012, 10:34 PM
Some of you should go back and watch the first 3 quaters of game 4 finals this year and watch Lebron in the post. It was insane to watch someone pick apart a defense like that. It's funny how some of you think being in the post is just about some fancy foot work and scoring. Not passing out of the post and flat out being dominant.

Kobe is going to give you a whole bunch of moves and in the end take a fade away on you. Give me Lebron who you have no chance of defending with one guy at this point in the post and always finds the open guy.

Melo as well is a bully down low that now that Dantoni is gone you got to see him in the last month do what he does best,

Kobe looks smooth in the post and people take that as effectiveness which is silly

waveycrockett
07-10-2012, 10:40 PM
Wow he played Tyson Chandler

C-Style
07-10-2012, 10:45 PM
Lebrons post moves look so amateur. dude is relying on pure strength cause he has no skills

Kenny
07-10-2012, 10:53 PM
Lebrons post moves look so amateur. dude is relying on pure strength cause he has no skills

That worked out so bad for shaq :rolleyes:

RCarlson85
07-10-2012, 11:00 PM
Of course Kobe thinks he's the best post player. He probably thinks he's the best player in the NBA still too. He's wrong on both and until he accepts that he's not the player he was a few years ago, the Lakers won't go to the finals, even with Nash.

C-Style
07-10-2012, 11:05 PM
That worked out so bad for shaq :rolleyes:

Hakeem>>>Shaq (in the post):eyebrow:

Patriotsfan97
07-10-2012, 11:09 PM
God What an arrogant, arrogant man.

b@llhog24
07-11-2012, 04:11 AM
naps trolling HARD again.


And this time man, I'm not gonna let up on you. Enough is enough. You're talking about all this rape **** that wasn't even true. I know deep down inside how much you hate Kobe Bryant. You hate Kobe more than you like dickriding LeBron.

I always try to come to a middle ground with you. But no more! Try to come at me and I will shred you into little pieces!!!!! :mad:

:laugh2: I'm think about making this my new sig.

MickeyMgl
07-11-2012, 04:27 AM
I bet he wont admit to backing up the 1st ballet HOF's ...nevermind they were just good players

hey PSD let me know if EDDIE JONES or VAN EXEL are surefire 1st ballot HOF's, then i would understand how a top 5 player of alltime can ride the pine for a few yrs,he'd get a free pass

18 years old on a contending team, that's how. Two seasons behind an All-Star SG in his prime, the second of which he was also an All-Star, at 19.

krrys11
07-11-2012, 04:36 AM
Kobe and his footwork are amazing. Plus he fakes sooo much that everyone would be in air...and then there is the fadeaway....

I mean if he was a little bigger no one would be able to stop him in the post. Right now I belive he has the highest skills in the post but coz of the size Melo is a must in conversation. LeBron is also getting better in the post...

thenaj17
07-11-2012, 04:41 AM
Kobe and his footwork are amazing. Plus he fakes sooo much that everyone would be in air...and then there is the fadeaway....

I mean if he was a little bigger no one would be able to stop him in the post. Right now I belive he has the highest skills in the post but coz of the size Melo is a must in conversation. LeBron is also getting better in the post...

Definitely agree with LeBron being in the conversation and Melo also. Not hard really when Griffin and Chandler are the bigs. If he'd said this with Bosh and Howard there, i'd question his arrogance

NYYCowboys
07-11-2012, 04:47 AM
I honestly really don't think there's any player in the NBA who can stop Melo in the post, and I've been saying this since he was on the Nuggets not because I'm trying to be a homer. Problem is he doesn't post up often enough. He settles for jumpers way too much. That being said I think Melo has gotta be in the conversation with Kobe, who is also very good in the post, for best post player on the team.

hidalgo
07-11-2012, 04:52 AM
Kobe is arrogant in a really bad way. he makes my skin crawl he's such a pr'ck

MadBomber
07-11-2012, 05:38 AM
He walks a fine line between confidence and arrogance. That's why you have people that love him or hate him.

MintBerryCrunch
07-11-2012, 05:57 AM
Larry Bird says you're wrong.

Out of any player to pick in that situation you pull Larry Bird.

MintBerryCrunch
07-11-2012, 05:58 AM
Kobe is arrogant in a really bad way. he makes my skin crawl he's such a pr'ck

Keep drinking the haterade bro

MintBerryCrunch
07-11-2012, 06:06 AM
Kobe has the best Post Game.
Melo is the most effective Post Player.
Guys arguing about Rape and Balls

/thread

dh144498
07-11-2012, 09:38 AM
I woke up this morning and I thought about this thread. How great is gawdbe.... :worthy: :worthy:







:worthy:

DaVille
07-11-2012, 09:41 AM
Dat Footwork

chicagodre1984
07-11-2012, 09:54 AM
Meh

Bullsfan22
07-11-2012, 09:56 AM
If I was as good as Kobe I'd be arrogant also, along with 90% of PSD. I personally think the NBA is in good hands with guys like KD and D.Rose and a few others but It needs some nasty. I have always hated Kobe unconditionally but I admired the way he communicates to the media and is never afraid to step on toes.

3RDASYSTEM
07-11-2012, 10:53 AM
MICKEYMGL

BRON was 18yrs old and would not have sat behind JONES/NICK for no yrs or months or games
What the hell you mean he made ALLSTAR game in 98(2nd season), so is it hype like im saying(1997 dunk contest), or was it cause of his actual game(actually MJ game he took)?

On a contending team and he wasnt SHAQ's equal or was EDDIE? but 7yrs later he is SHAQ's equal? funny *** kids around here, you are who you are from day 1(only superstars apply), how can he not be a FRANCHISE player with SHAQ in 96 but hes a FRANCHISE player in 2004-05...he was 9yrs in league by that time

how can somebody be a top 5 player ever but was bench warming for fringe allstars as well as being a allstar superstar for yrs?

i couldnt imagine a BRON/IVERSON type coming off bench ...you see they waited til AI got old and tried to force him to bench, but i get it now ..he has 5rings

and you mean to tell me MICKEYMGL that JONES/VAN EXEL were better than KB as individual players? doesnt the best player start especially if they 'franchise' player,was KB a true franchise player or a media created type? SHAQ was only franchise player on that squad or no,did EDDIE share that title with SHAQ(joke) or did NICK? BRON/AI were franchise players from day 1 and would have been SHAQ's equal from day 1 not 7-9yrs later in they career

BRON/AI would have started over those 2 from day 1,rather on a contending team or not...they didnt have to develop to get to SHAQ's level, nobody does,you either got it or not..or have media in ya back pocket(rings)

funniest **** is he was backing up JONES/VANEXEL on his reg. season squad but was starting in ALLSTAR games...a bunch of ****in hype especially when comparing individually to a BRON/AI...if that would have happened to BRON in CAVS land they would have destroyed him via media for being a KING coming off pine for inferior players,no matter how veteran savvy they are, and no matter if they a bottom feeder or annual contender so it shouldnt be no different for 2nd coming of JORDAN

JONES wasnt no perennial ALLSTAR/HOF type player nor VANEXEL so how did the 2nd coming of JORDAN ride that pine, age aint ****, your youth is when you're at your most lethal, people act like he came in league in 2003 with BRON/MELO/WADE

Why you think the 2nd coming of JORDAN work ethic is so so great? he had to battle out 2guys coming from 3rd on depth chart, thats easy to see and figure the lesser player had to work work work to overthrow the other lesser players, damn this is too funny once it sinks in, its like they were all equal gamewise but since a player won x amount of rings, his status is elevated..even funnier **** because KERR matches BIRD/HAKEEM ringwise combined with 5,and KERR had major reason why they won those 5,especially in FINALS against JAZZ and against NETS,but i get it lets pick and choose while i keep it all even with everybody, a ring doesnt make your game..you make your game...KERR is still same player to me with 5 rings, a alltime great spot up 3pt marksman with no other game to go with it, like a shorter deadlier earlier version of KORVER...KB is no different from when he first came in league, just a better scoring version of PIPPEN,not bad at all..PIPP is a top 50 player of alltime,not top 5-10

HE came in 1996 and didnt start fulltime til 2000, now i get it ..all you KB/LAKER folks took that as his 1st season in league since they won ship when he started, so KB career began in either 2000 or 2003 when BRON entered, not 1996 when he was selected 13th overall and traded to a contender to backup inferior players or were they superior? thanks LAKER fans

Hawkeye15
07-11-2012, 10:58 AM
Out of any player to pick in that situation you pull Larry Bird.

for basketball skill level? Find me someone more skilled than Bird who was considered a star.

GREATNESS ONE
07-11-2012, 11:00 AM
Pretty much true when I look at the roster again.

These kids should be learning from Mamba, some of them could do some major damage in the post with their size.

TheNumber37
07-11-2012, 11:06 AM
It's... true. Maybe Melo? But still doesn't use an up and under like Bryant would.

3RDASYSTEM
07-11-2012, 11:07 AM
@HAWKEYE

IVERSON was every bit as skilled as BIRD(shooting/passing/cable(handle)?)

and trumped it with freak of nature athletic ability to match that skill, now who has that?

but AI might not count since you prob dont consider him a 'star',so nevermind

Jay_Dub
07-11-2012, 11:09 AM
I honestly think that Lebron has the best post up game. He was basically unstoppable down low. Although Kobe probably does have slightly better moves/footwork ... Lebron's size gives him the advantage in my books.

younggunn113
07-11-2012, 11:10 AM
Of course Kobe thinks he's the best post player. He probably thinks he's the best player in the NBA still too. He's wrong on both and until he accepts that he's not the player he was a few years ago, the Lakers won't go to the finals, even with Nash.

He is actually the best post player on the team though. He's not the best anymore in the league, and he's not the best post player in the league, but he is the best on Team USA in the post.

kingsdelez24
07-11-2012, 11:12 AM
This is why they should have cousins

StinkEye
07-11-2012, 11:13 AM
5 rings, guys. 5 rings.

StinkEye
07-11-2012, 11:25 AM
@HAWKEYE

IVERSON was every bit as skilled as BIRD(shooting/passing/cable(handle)?)

and trumped it with freak of nature athletic ability to match that skill, now who has that?

but AI might not count since you prob dont consider him a 'star',so nevermind

He took a lot of shots.

He reluctantly passed.

His handle was ridiculous, but he turned it over a lot.

AI was not as skilled as Bird.

dh144498
07-11-2012, 11:28 AM
for basketball skill level? Find me someone more skilled than Bird who was considered a star.

MJ, Magic, Hakeem.

Hawkeye15
07-11-2012, 11:33 AM
@HAWKEYE

IVERSON was every bit as skilled as BIRD(shooting/passing/cable(handle)?)

and trumped it with freak of nature athletic ability to match that skill, now who has that?

but AI might not count since you prob dont consider him a 'star',so nevermind

hahahaha

3RDASYSTEM
07-11-2012, 11:35 AM
STINKEYE

IVERSON wouldnt have shot the ball as much with a HOF cast BIRD had, if BIRD played with a core of MCKIE/SNOW/LYNCH he would have shot more than AI, forced to

he relunctantly passed because of the core i mentioned above, he would have loved to pass to MCHALE/CHIEF/DJ and others, trust me he would have..if he avg 8apg with IGGY/KORVER just imagine

his cable was 2nd to none

his athletic ability/physical gifts are only matched by much bigger players WILT/SHAQ/BRON and maybe a couple others

The perception of AI is borderline travesty

Hawkeye15
07-11-2012, 11:35 AM
MJ, Magic, Hakeem.

Not as basketball skilled. There is a reason a dude with a 5'' vertical who couldn't cross over my grandma is a top 5 player ever.

3RDASYSTEM
07-11-2012, 11:36 AM
yea HAWKEYE when all else fails and the moment of silence arrives


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA is a nice reply,stay at it

3RDASYSTEM
07-11-2012, 11:37 AM
and there is a reason for somebody 5'9 at 150lbs with a 44inch vertical in a bigmans league as athletic with the skill to match is right up there with him...HAHAHAHAHAHA

So who would have more degree of difficulty, a 6'10 skilled guy in 80's(HOF cast) or a 5'9' skilled+supreme athlete guy in mid-late 90's(playing with all defenders) playing in a 'bigmans' league? c'mon HAWKEYE educate me you genuis you

koreancabbage
07-11-2012, 11:42 AM
wait, Chandler....post player...WAAAAAAAAAA?

Boycott the NBA

nickdymez
07-11-2012, 11:42 AM
Kobe is the GOAT. His words are FACTS (even when he cheats and rape random chicks).

Whats that have to do with him playing basketball?

dh144498
07-11-2012, 11:44 AM
Not as basketball skilled. There is a reason a dude with a 5'' vertical who couldn't cross over my grandma is a top 5 player ever.

I think it's crazy to say Bird's more skilled than Jordan and Hakeem (outside or passing). But that's your opinion and I won't argue with you about that.

dh144498
07-11-2012, 11:45 AM
Whats that have to do with him playing basketball?

it doesn't, he just trolling.

dh144498
07-11-2012, 11:46 AM
@HAWKEYE

IVERSON was every bit as skilled as BIRD(shooting/passing/cable(handle)?)

and trumped it with freak of nature athletic ability to match that skill, now who has that?

but AI might not count since you prob dont consider him a 'star',so nevermind

Iverson MIGHT have had the skills, but he definitely didn't show them on the court. One thing is for sure, he did not shoot as well as Bird (it's not even close).

KingPosey
07-11-2012, 11:48 AM
Hes right.

Hawkeye15
07-11-2012, 11:50 AM
yea HAWKEYE when all else fails and the moment of silence arrives


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA is a nice reply,stay at it

you used a player who wasn't skilled in the slightest when comparing the all times. The second Iverson lost that ridiculous athletic ability, he was done. Having playground handles doesn't mean you are skilled. Larry Bird did more with his limited athletic ability than anyone in history. That comes from being more skilled in every facet of the game then most of his competition. Great shooter, passer, ball handler, skilled in rebounding, using picks, finding passing angles, anticipation, everything.

I laughed because you literally choose one of the last players I can think of to try and compare elite basketball skill level to. Iverson's game was based off his unreal athletic ability, not his skill level.

alleyooptocoop
07-11-2012, 12:00 PM
iverson seemed pretty skilled to me

dh144498
07-11-2012, 12:03 PM
Having playground handles doesn't mean you are skilled.

THIS. It looked nice and fancy the way he was playing around defenders, though.

3RDASYSTEM
07-11-2012, 12:09 PM
http://youtu.be/QnejrFhgUsw - he does what you basically call the new 'skills' HAWKEYE(moving without ball,anticipation)

http://youtu.be/3rQ32xftPQE -Sick original SKILL on display at its finest for all you funny style guys(running off screens,passing to his superstar teammates,stopping on a dime for pullup j,etc)

so now ''SKILL'' is understanding angles, setting screens,anticipation? well damn i thought skill was the basic shooting/passing/ballhandling....but i get it in order to win your argument you got to throw in ********, kind of like he has 5 rings argument

i get it tho, its funny you keep bringing up his supreme athletic ability, but he had supreme skill to match

let me find this game where this commentator kept saying ''people talk about everything else about this guy, but they fail to mention how ''skilled'' he is''...but i get it,he was all athletic ability and mental/physical toughness

his highschool coach said he used to pull 30ft 3's first play of every game to let everybody know he was in the building, as a junior in HIGHSCHOOL

AI wasnt skilled but a HOF coach had him running out to 3pt line and baseline to baseline off all sorts of screens in same fashion i have seen ran for RAY ALLEN/R.MILLER/L.BIRD/NOWITZKI/PEJA but i get it, hes not skilled,hes just athletic...and tell me HAWKEYE could any of those great shooters i just mentioned drive to the hole with equal ability like IVERSON could? didnt think so, closest is RAY ALLEN when he came in,and he wasnt on his level at doing that

a 5'9 guy is supposed to avg 4-5 rebounds right?

no hes both combined equally like i've been trying to teach you uneducated PSD sports fanatics

BklynKnicks3
07-11-2012, 12:18 PM
Melo kobe post up leads to 20 foot fade aways

3RDASYSTEM
07-11-2012, 12:44 PM
HAWKEYE

http://youtu.be/UbFpYhFEhZA

3RDASYSTEM
07-11-2012, 12:48 PM
HAWKEYE

http://youtu.be/ivaXuq6wAqI

Stinkyoutsider
07-11-2012, 12:55 PM
He is the best post player which needs to change.

We can't count on Griffin or Love right now and Chandler is a defensive specialist, so maybe Melo could give Kobe some comp down there but that's it.

3RDASYSTEM
07-11-2012, 01:05 PM
http://youtu.be/-nxqbMTWyFI

Chavacano
07-11-2012, 01:08 PM
He's right but it's been awhile since Kobe consistently used those post moves of his. :sigh:

THE MTL
07-11-2012, 01:38 PM
Carmelo Anthony is a much better post player.

gotoHcarolina52
07-11-2012, 01:40 PM
"Yesterday,'' said an Asian reporter to Bryant, "you said that you are the best player in the post other than Tyson Chandler. That being said...''

And Bryant interrupted him.

"No, no, no,'' said Bryant. "Not `other than Tyson Chandler.' The best post player, period. Tyson Chandler's not in that conversation.''

:laugh: This is hilarious. Love it.

Six-8-TheWizard
07-11-2012, 02:03 PM
Its true

LA_Raiders
07-11-2012, 02:06 PM
Sad but true... USA team will not dominate because world refs wont be calling flops and imaginary fouls... NBA should be ref by FIBA...

MintBerryCrunch
07-11-2012, 02:20 PM
Not as basketball skilled. There is a reason a dude with a 5'' vertical who couldn't cross over my grandma is a top 5 player ever.

So Centers are automatically out of the running ?:eyebrow:

StinkEye
07-11-2012, 02:59 PM
STINKEYE

IVERSON wouldnt have shot the ball as much with a HOF cast BIRD had, if BIRD played with a core of MCKIE/SNOW/LYNCH he would have shot more than AI, forced to

he relunctantly passed because of the core i mentioned above, he would have loved to pass to MCHALE/CHIEF/DJ and others, trust me he would have..if he avg 8apg with IGGY/KORVER just imagine

his cable was 2nd to none

his athletic ability/physical gifts are only matched by much bigger players WILT/SHAQ/BRON and maybe a couple others

The perception of AI is borderline travesty
lol

So Centers are automatically out of the running ?:eyebrow:
How did you get that from his post?

FraziersKnicks
07-11-2012, 03:22 PM
Kobe just mad no one's talking about him anymore

Chavacano
07-11-2012, 03:48 PM
Kobe just mad no one's talking about him anymore

So who interviewed Kobe? :confused:

--23--
07-11-2012, 04:09 PM
He's telling the truth though, after him would be Melo.

MickeyMgl
07-11-2012, 04:34 PM
MICKEYMGL

BRON was 18yrs old and would not have sat behind JONES/NICK for no yrs or months or games

Dream on. On a contending team he would. If Kobe and his 38% 3FG and 82% FT would, then Lebron and his poor shooting would, too.



What the hell you mean he made ALLSTAR game in 98(2nd season)

I mean he made the All-Star game in '98.



On a contending team and he wasnt SHAQ's equal or was EDDIE? but 7yrs later he is SHAQ's equal? funny *** kids around here, you are who you are from day 1(only superstars apply), how can he not be a FRANCHISE player with SHAQ in 96 but hes a FRANCHISE player in 2004-05...he was 9yrs in league by that time

You REALLY don't understand the difference between an 18-year-old kid with mostly potential on a contending team and a 26-year-old man at the height of his game?? Really???



i couldnt imagine a BRON/IVERSON type coming off bench ...

Then you lack imagination. All you have to do is imagine a world where Cleveland or Philadelphia don't suck.



and you mean to tell me MICKEYMGL that JONES/VAN EXEL were better than KB as individual players? doesnt the best player start especially if they 'franchise' player,was KB a true franchise player or a media created type? SHAQ was only franchise player on that squad or no,did EDDIE share that title with SHAQ(joke) or did NICK? BRON/AI were franchise players from day 1 and would have been SHAQ's equal from day 1 not 7-9yrs later in they career

I guess it depends on the franchise. It's easier to be a franchise player in Cleveland. In Los Angeles, you wait in line.



BRON/AI would have started over those 2 from day 1,rather on a contending team or not...

Yeah, um.... It's pretty clear by this point that you haven't the slightest clue what you're talking about. You clearly have no understanding of the game, how players develop, and how teams are put together.

MickeyMgl
07-11-2012, 04:40 PM
Kobe just mad no one's talking about him anymore

Oh, I'm confused. What is it we're doing here, 10 pages into a thread that started yesterday?

3RDASYSTEM
07-11-2012, 07:57 PM
MICKEYMGL

1. BRON/AI would have never ever came off bench for EDDIE/NICK, i dont give a **** if he 18,he was ballin tough at that age and still same, same with IVERSON , they were that good in highschool and college(AI Hoyas), the 2nd coming of JORDAN at 18YRS OLD should have easily supplanted those HOF players,especially since hes a surefire HOF'er right? at 18 or age 26 BRON/AI were killers on hardwood,its well documented..it had nothing to do with a poor fg pct or ******** you saying, its about being ''franchise''(BRON/AI) player and being a ''developing''(KB) player..dont be mad at me cause media overrated players game cause of 'rings'

2. yea he made allstar team and not starting on his reg. season squad, i stated that..i should have put comma in there to seperate and not confuse you...he avg 15ppg and started shooting guard in ALLSTAR game,wat a bunch of ****ing hype after avg 7ppg his rookie yr like PIPPEN, notice i said hes a scoring version of PIPPEN but the 2nd coming of JORDAN rode the pine ..yea i get it,dream on..let me dream on

3. Like i said if he was a true franchise player it wouldnt matter how old he is,game is game at any age...BRON would have been SHAQ's equal from day 1,now SHAQ would have been no1 option, but AI/BRON were SHAQ's equal from yr1, not yr 7 or yr 9 like KB was...you really dont understand diff. from a 'developing' type and 'franchise' type

4.If Philly/Cleveland didnt suck they would have had way more than 1 FINALS app. from carrying load, if they had a modern day WILT for they first 8yrs, they would have racked up probably 6-7Finals app......you keep making excuses for the 'backupguard turned allstar' ....yea i lack imagination from rookies who put up 20ppg 6apg 6rpg and the other put up 23.5ppg and 7.5apg both ROY, i'll tell you like this if they would have backed up a player,it would have been a FAVRE situation,but then i still see them shipping out that player sorta like CAVS did SESSIONS soon as they drafted IRVING...but i get it keep making excuses for the 'backup guard turned allstar''



5. figured you would reach for straws, it doesnt matter wat franchise a SHAQ/BRON/AI got drafted to they would be on hardwood like they did from day 1, not 4yrs later and they starting fulltime....talk about hype at its finest after winning that dunk contest in 1997, you are who you are from day 1,unless you develop..like your boy KB..how can you go from a sidekick to being JORDAN? how come BRON aint WADE sidekick? cause he never was a ****ing sidekick, and to sum it up in words of the great KB ''im tired of being a sidekick'', but i get it a top 5 player ever....dream on(wat true franchise/superstar player refers to himself as a sidekick?)

KOBE BEAN-During the 2004 NBA Finals, Kobe decided that he was going to be the man, even if it cost the team. Not surprisingly, according to Phil Jackson‘s book “The Last Season: A Team in Search of Its Soul," in Bryant’s exit interview with him Bryant said, “I’m tired of being a sidekick.”



yea i know how players play and how teams are built, you sound bitter for forgetting he was a backup guard and last i checked from BIRD/MAGIC/AI/SHAQ/JORDAN/WILT/BRON/ALCINDOR/KG/DUNCAN were franchise players from yr 1,can you imagine any of these guys listed coming off bench for first 3yrs of career and starting fulltime yr 4? it'd be funniest **** of all time , but i get it i dont have any knowledge of game or how a team is built, but i do know a bench player from a franchise player from a player who is 'developing'....wat did MAGIC/BIRD/WILT/SHAQ/AI/BRON/ develop? nothing but generate ratings/$$$ for the multibillionaire biz known as the NBA


You dont ****ing wait in line to be a franchise player in LA, like i said they would have been 1a or strongest 2nd option in history of league if AI/BRON had got to tag team with modern day WILT for first 8yrs of they career, why wasnt KB equal to SHAQ when he was traded for by LA? and people wonder why his work ethic is so strong, he was a backup for damn near 4yrs while privately comparing himself to and mimmicking JORDAN, funny CHAPPELLE type comedy ****

You so called bball knowers amaze me on here cause last i checked its nothing special about a backup guard turning into a allstar from working on his game and developing, it happens from NFL to NBA ..nothing special at all about that, unless rings are involved i guess

J_M_B
07-11-2012, 08:03 PM
He's right.

Nobody on this Olympic squad has the footwork or arsenal of post moves that he does.

If Wade was healthy, he would be number 2.

b@llhog24
07-11-2012, 08:07 PM
MJ, Magic, Hakeem.

Bird has the least athleticism out of all these guys, if you took away his skills he'd be just a regular guy.


Not as basketball skilled. There is a reason a dude with a 5'' vertical who couldn't cross over my grandma is a top 5 player ever.

You have Bird in your top 5?

MickeyMgl
07-12-2012, 03:00 AM
MICKEYMGL

1. BRON/AI would have never ever came off bench for EDDIE/NICK, i dont give a **** if he 18,he was ballin tough at that age

No better than Kobe.

justjames
07-12-2012, 03:56 AM
Rookie LeBron would have come off the bench if Prime Cedric Ceballos was on the team.

cg_la00
07-12-2012, 04:12 AM
i agree with his statement. kobe's footwork in the paint is ridiculous

C-Style
07-12-2012, 04:26 AM
Is 3RDASYSTEM the stupidest poster on PSD or what? I cant think of a dumber poster??

C-Style
07-12-2012, 04:34 AM
Is 3RDASYSTEM the stupidest poster on PSD or what? I cant think of a dumber poster??

3RDASYSTEM
07-12-2012, 01:51 PM
BRON/AI were in they prime in highschool

they didnt really get no better, go check it out im sick of posting vids on'em..they were just that damn good,especially AI

a prime CEBALLOS over BRON,they would have traded/waived CED so fast it wouldnt have been funny? boy if i post the dumbest **** on here, then how come what i say actually happened, im not goin threw no sources..he was a backup guard(6TH MAN) but was a allstar SUPERSTAR? so why is he compared to JORDAN and not MANU/TERRY?

18yr old BRON would have completely sat down CEBALLOS, jus like AI would have sat down EDDIE/NICK from day 1 not 3-4yrs later or had'em traded like SESSIONS/IRVING situation....BRON/AI were just as good at 18 as they were 26yrs of age,so was DIESEL for that matter,KB had to develop to take his spot...or did KB enter the league in 2000?

the way yall suck KB dick on here you would sware i was lying for calling him a 'backup guard turned allstar''

dude was starting on ALLSTAR teams but not his reg. season squad, and how is he a top 5 player ever when riding pine at any age, when you enter the league..ball hard or sit bench and develop develop, but i get it AMARE/KEMP/MALONE/KG/TMAC and 1yr college players like KD/ROSE and all those sat behind inferior players for 3yrs before taking off,i get it now

especially with all the JORDAN talk, i didnt hear none of that for EDDIE/NICK(good players,not HOF 1st ballot or 4th for that matter)...but i heard it about AI/BRON being the next heir to throne, you guys are ****ing clowns on here

like i said we comparing 'developing' players to 'franchise' players

you can develop into a franchise player? let me know when CONLEY/STUCKEY or whatever other developing player develops into a franchise player, you guys are ****ing amazing on the lack of bball knowledge but try to front like yall know by saying someone else doesnt know what they talking about when all this **** is documented

i cant help it most of yall start following KB in 2003(BRON's rookie yr) and AI/KB was going on they 7th yr and AI was 2yrs removed from league MVP, but i get it i dont know **** about a backup guard or wat the definition of a franchise player is

yall keep throwing out 'prime' like that mean something

SHAQ/AI/BRON were in they primes(dominance) in HIGHSCHOOL and when SHAQ/AI got to college they literally 5teamed SHAQ and box in 1 defense on AI...and do i need to go into wat they did rookie yr in league? didnt think so'

the more i hear prime,the more i know yall dont know **** about bball...**** outta here

and CSTYLE point out my dumb **** and you'll see its documented, it happened..so yea dumb **** does happen, like overhyping 1 player because of rings,but not counting it equally for next man...yea dumb **** indeed, and you must be too dumb to breakdown wat im saying and reply so you resort to the 'throw in the towel' method...''Is 3RDASYSTEM the stupidest poster on PSD or what? I cant think of a dumber poster??''

LLEMON is teaching PSD very well i see cause that has to be the dumbest reply back ever,thats all you can say? Point out my dumb **** and i'll show you where the dumb **** is factual/documented, but trust me i'll be waiiting

MickeyMgl
07-12-2012, 07:00 PM
the way yall suck KB dick on here

Whose dick do you prefer more? 'Bron's or AI's?

MR.TRIPDUB
07-12-2012, 09:55 PM
in terms of post moves:
kobe= hakeem
melo= shaq

kobe's are prettier
melo's are bullish