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fadedmario
07-05-2012, 08:15 PM
After a few weeks to absorb the first playoff sweep of his career, Dirk was asked how he would view the Dallas Mavericks' free-agent pursuit of Deron Williams, considering the price of doing so was not re-signing Tyson Chandler from the 2011 title team, if it came up empty.

The question was posed to him during a May appearance on ESPN Dallas 103.3 FM's "Galloway & Co.," and, as usual, Dirk answered it openly and honestly.

"Itís kind of tough," he said. "Iím like the grandfather of Dallas sports right now."

He was asked if he could ever see a time when he would request a trade if the pieces didn't come together as planned. Nowitzki, with two years left on his deal, and Kobe Bryant are the only players in the NBA with no-trade clauses in their contracts.

"Iím not sure," Nowitzki, 34, said. "Iíve always said I want to finish my career here and obviously the championship season topped it all off; thatís what I always was chasing and dreaming about so that kind of sealed that deal on that front. If we really come out with nobody this summer then maybe they want to rebuild and, obviously, Iím too old for that. Weíll just have to wait and see what happens on that front. But I still think I got two, three good years left in me and if we get some players in here we can be right back up there and compete."

http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/mavericks/post/_/id/4690648/dirk-nowitzki-im-too-old-to-rebuild

Evolution23
07-05-2012, 08:15 PM
Heat for minimum? Reily got em all discounted!

YungQ89
07-05-2012, 08:16 PM
I'm not surprised

marj987
07-05-2012, 08:16 PM
:sigh:

RLundi
07-05-2012, 08:16 PM
What miserable back-to-back offseasons for Cuban. I mean, I understand the gambles he took, but man did they completely blow up in his face.

KB-Pau-DH2012
07-05-2012, 08:17 PM
Never said he may want out, inaccurate title just stirring up ****. He's going to ride the ship for the next 2-3 yrs and then just retire.

Avenged
07-05-2012, 08:17 PM
Good going, Cuban.. Good going. :laugh2:

xxplayerxx23
07-05-2012, 08:18 PM
Lin 1st rounder for dirk lmao :D

fadedmario
07-05-2012, 08:19 PM
Mark Cuban and the Mavericks were unsuccessful in their efforts to sign Deron Williams.

Dallas let Tyson Chandler and J.J. Barea go in free agency last summer in an effort to create cap space.


"It's better to miss out on the right player than to sign the wrong player," said Cuban.

Via Sam Amick/SI.com (via Twitter)

justinnum1
07-05-2012, 08:19 PM
Cuban did a great job.

phlp_bj
07-05-2012, 08:19 PM
where would he even go? send him to okc for ibaka+. or come to the bulls!

97NYer
07-05-2012, 08:20 PM
Dirk for Pau

jayjay33
07-05-2012, 08:20 PM
Yeah he really ****ed up the teams.... They had a championship team they could have keep together. Might be one of the all time worst jobs I have seen in sports. I think it's time for dirk to get out.

fadedmario
07-05-2012, 08:20 PM
Never said he may want out, inaccurate title just stirring up ****. He's going to ride the ship for the next 2-3 yrs and then just retire.


If we really come out with nobody this summer then maybe they want to rebuild and, obviously, Iím too old for that.

They obviously haven't come out with anyone. Don't think it's misleading at all.

Bigbadmoffo
07-05-2012, 08:22 PM
Dirk will not end his career in Dallas doesn't make sense. Cuban needs to rebuild and dirk could help get some good pieces. I see I really fast rebuild for them if they can get rid of haywoods contract.

KB-Pau-DH2012
07-05-2012, 08:22 PM
They obviously haven't come out with anyone. Don't think it's misleading at all.

He doesn't want out. Let's just wait and see what happens with the Mavs this yr.

C-Style
07-05-2012, 08:22 PM
Bynum for Marion + Dirk **** it.

Dade County
07-05-2012, 08:22 PM
teams should try to jump all over this...

Minnesota
Sacramento
NY
Lakers

justjames
07-05-2012, 08:23 PM
Sessions and Bynum or Pau for Dirk

BlondeBomber41
07-05-2012, 08:23 PM
I'd love to trade Dirk for Ibaka and Harden. Would give Dirk a run at a few more titles and would give the Mavs two young pieces to build with. The common thought process is that the Thunder are gonna lose one of those guys in free agency anyways, so they'd really only be giving up one player they would have long term.

Bigbadmoffo
07-05-2012, 08:24 PM
where would he even go? send him to okc for ibaka+. or come to the bulls!

Okc would be a good partner maybe if jones turns out dirk for jones, ibaka and filler.

Bigbadmoffo
07-05-2012, 08:26 PM
I'd love to trade Dirk for Ibaka and Harden. Would give Dirk a run at a few more titles and would give the Mavs two young pieces to build with. The common thought process is that the Thunder are gonna lose one of those guys in free agency anyways, so they'd really only be giving up one player they would have long term.

Dirk and durant shooting is scary! They would be better off getting rid of Westbrook for a facilitator like rondo though.

Ryan328
07-05-2012, 08:27 PM
He'd go to a team with young pieces to give back to Dallas. So, Kings, Raptors, 76ers, etc

thephoenixson28
07-05-2012, 08:27 PM
He would be great for Phoenix.

airforceones25
07-05-2012, 08:27 PM
Bynum for Marion + Dirk **** it.

LOL at Laker fans... Please trade Bynum for Dirk. This guarantees the Lakers will be absolutely nobody in 3 years. =D

Bigbadmoffo
07-05-2012, 08:28 PM
He doesn't want out. Let's just wait and see what happens with the Mavs this yr.

No playoffs is a almost a sure thing for them. They lost so much!

xxplayerxx23
07-05-2012, 08:29 PM
teams should try to jump all over this...

Minnesota
Sacramento
NY
Lakers

We have nothing to offer lol

Cali4rnia
07-05-2012, 08:31 PM
LOL at Laker fans... Please trade Bynum for Dirk. This guarantees the Lakers will be absolutely nobody in 3 years. =D
I don't see a problem with that. All team goes through rebuilding mode. LA is an attractive market most players would love to play for the lakers.

justjames
07-05-2012, 08:32 PM
LOL at Laker fans... Please trade Bynum for Dirk. This guarantees the Lakers will be absolutely nobody in 3 years. =D

Guess who's contract expires in three years?

greg_ory_2005
07-05-2012, 08:32 PM
One of my fav players ever. It will be a sad day if he's traded.

Unless he comes to the Raptors!

C-Style
07-05-2012, 08:33 PM
LOL at Laker fans... Please trade Bynum for Dirk. This guarantees the Lakers will be absolutely nobody in 3 years. =D

I will be ok with that if Lakers win 1 or 2 rings(how many does ur team have) :D:D BTW Lakers will have no contracts in 3 years, only Nash

Cfrey
07-05-2012, 08:33 PM
they mine as well rebuild because dirk has shown time and time again that he has never even been close to doing anything by himself... so dirk get out while you can cause you can't put anybody on your back

C-Style
07-05-2012, 08:35 PM
they mine as well rebuild because dirk has shown time and time again that he has never even been close to doing anything by himself... so dirk get out while you can cause you can't put anybody on your back
SO what did he do in 2011 playoffs?

numba1CHANGsta
07-05-2012, 08:35 PM
Bynum+Sessions+draft picks for Dirk

Gritz
07-05-2012, 08:35 PM
He will stay in dallas

metsfanssince05
07-05-2012, 08:36 PM
They win the championship then blow it up. Weird...

Gritz
07-05-2012, 08:37 PM
SO what did he do in 2011 playoffs?

He doesn't watch anything except box scores, don't mind him

numba1CHANGsta
07-05-2012, 08:37 PM
LOL at Laker fans... Please trade Bynum for Dirk. This guarantees the Lakers will be absolutely nobody in 3 years. =D

This will guarantee the Lakers at least 2 rings out of 3 years, and we will have a lottt of free cap after 2-3 years to sign other big names :D

fadedmario
07-05-2012, 08:37 PM
This move would be a great way for Cuban to rebuild. Dirk is right at that age where he would still be attractive enough to a contender or a team close to contending.

I could still see Dirk being worth quite a bit in a trade.

Catfish1314
07-05-2012, 08:37 PM
I'm anything but a Mavs fan, but I find it ironic that so much of the Cuban criticism is directed from fans of teams the Mavericks clobbered during their championship run last year.

He's also not quoted anywhere as saying that he "may want out." He kept everything honest like he should. If they rebuild, he is too old for it. I think that's obvious.

xabial
07-05-2012, 08:38 PM
We'll Give you Amare. (Even Take Haywood, or your Worst Contract) :hide: $60M Uninsured, is Pig Money For a a Guy Whose Net worth is Worth Billions.

Rebuild...Or...

Rebuild With a 29 Year Old Amare :D

airforceones25
07-05-2012, 08:38 PM
Noah + Deng

for

Drik + Haywood

marj987
07-05-2012, 08:40 PM
noah + deng

for

drik + haywood

my eyes!!!!

C-Style
07-05-2012, 08:41 PM
Bynum+Sessions+draft picks for Dirk

Add Marion we need a SF

C-Style
07-05-2012, 08:41 PM
my eyes!!!!

:clap:

Cfrey
07-05-2012, 08:42 PM
SO what did he do in 2011 playoffs?

What he did in the playoffs was have Tyson Chandler, Jason Kidd, Jason Terry and everyone else play out of their minds. Do you remember anything from previous years when the Mavericks were a regular first round out?? Who was their star player? Dirk was and guess what he couldn't even get his teams out of the first round lol so yeah he will never be able to "put a team on his back".


He doesn't watch anything except box scores, don't mind him

Yeah you are right.. I don't watch the game, I just look at the box scores.. Or I happened to realize that Dirk has been vastly overrated by his one good postseason in his entire career. So keep talking.

airforceones25
07-05-2012, 08:43 PM
Pretty sure LA loses their trading rights with Dallas after the Odom debacle. Can't see Cuban dealing with them unless they get a gross overpayment.

xabial
07-05-2012, 08:43 PM
This will guarantee the Lakers at least 2 rings out of 3 years, and we will have a lottt of free cap after 2-3 years to sign other big names :D

Thats What the Mavs Thought Not Resigning Chandler/Terry/JJBarea.

This is why we Have this thread.

Bynum's 25 Years Old. Dirk's 34. Stupidest Trade Proposal Is Trading a 25 Year Old FRANCHISE CALIBUR Player for a 34 Year Old Player Who has At Most 2-3 Good Years Left In The Tank. Ok you have Cap Space... You Know In 3 Years Gasol is Gone, (And 34 Years Old), and Kobe is 35)

Bynums The Only Bright Spot For The Lakers Right Now. (Gasol's Aging, and Declining,...But stilL GOOD :) ) Kobe's Aging,..... But still GOOD :) ) , Nash is 38,..... But GREAT :)


Bynum is your Future. I don;t understand why Lakers fas are so intent on trading their ONLY Good Trade Piece for a 34 Year Old Dirk. Bynum Can Net you a Kings Ransom. TRUE Centers Are Hard to Find These Days too :facepalm:

bholly
07-05-2012, 08:45 PM
Brooklyn would make the most sense, and he'd come cheaper than Dwight, but I dunno if Cuban would go for that.
I could see Toronto making an offer, too.

Maybe Boston could find the assets for an offer? They'd love that.

justinnum1
07-05-2012, 08:46 PM
dirk for iggy

Blink
07-05-2012, 08:48 PM
Dallas can still go after Mayo, Kaman, Sessions.

Kaman
Dirk
Marion
Mayo
Sessions

Not horrible but might make more sense to just throw in the red flag and rebuild

justjames
07-05-2012, 08:49 PM
Thats What the Mavs Thought Not Resigning Chandler/Terry/JJBarea.

This is why we Have this thread.

Bynum's 25 Years Old. Dirk's 34. Stupidest Trade Proposal Is Trading a 25 Year Old FRANCHISE CALIBUR Player for a 34 Year Old Player Who has At Most 2-3 Good Years Left In The Tank. Ok you have Cap Space... You Know In 3 Years Gasol is Gone, (And 34 Years Old), and Kobe is 35)

Bynums The Only Bright Spot For The Lakers Right Now. (Gasol's Aging, and Declining,...But stilL GOOD :) ) Kobe's Aging,..... But still GOOD :) ) , Nash is 38,..... But GREAT :)


Bynum is your Future. I don;t understand why Lakers fas are so intent on trading their ONLY Good Trade Piece for a 34 Year Old Dirk. Bynum Can Net you a Kings Ransom.

Bynum isn't a franchise player. Well, not for the Lakers anyway. Trading Bynum for Dirk stacks the deck so heavily in your favor to win the next 3 championships. You're talking about having 3 MVPs on a single team.

masTOR_shake1
07-05-2012, 08:52 PM
kobe might want out..

D Blue987
07-05-2012, 08:53 PM
Pretty sure LA loses their trading rights with Dallas after the Odom debacle. Can't see Cuban dealing with them unless they get a gross overpayment.

After what the Lakers pulled off for Nash, I wouldnt be surprised if Dirk is dealt to them even if it is a remote chance. Its not impossible. Improbable yes but not completely out of the question.

Laker Legend42
07-05-2012, 08:56 PM
What miserable back-to-back offseasons for Cuban. I mean, I understand the gambles he took, but man did they completely blow up in his face.

His biggest mistake was making plans for players 2yrs out. Teams can't talk to players put players can. He should have sent some players out on recruiting trips. It worked for Miami. Pat Riley got the credit but those players put that in motion yrs earlier. No harm no foul. The Mavericks and magic are this off season losers so far

justinnum1
07-05-2012, 08:59 PM
Dallas can still go after Mayo, Kaman, Sessions.

Kaman
Dirk
Marion
Mayo
Sessions

Not horrible but might make more sense to just throw in the red flag and rebuild

that would be dumb, should have just kept the championship team intact

Evolution23
07-05-2012, 09:00 PM
dirk for iggy

Dirk for Bosh and Wade. Wait that's not enough. Throw Lebron in there and then it's more fair.

C-Style
07-05-2012, 09:00 PM
Dirk & Nash , along with Gasol/Kobe, would fit perfectly together. Nash and Dirk would spread the floor for Kobe/Gasol and would give the Lakers another guy who can consistently break down defenses. It would also give Kobe/Gasol more opportunities to play in the post, which would open up Dirk and Nash's games.

waveycrockett
07-05-2012, 09:04 PM
Billy King>Mark Cuban

DR_1
07-05-2012, 09:09 PM
Dirk for Boozer+Charlotte pick :dance:

KnickNyKnick
07-05-2012, 09:09 PM
be funny if dirk lands in okc.

justinnum1
07-05-2012, 09:10 PM
Dirk for Boozer+Charlotte pick :dance:

put down the pipe

justinnum1
07-05-2012, 09:12 PM
Dirk for Bosh and Wade. Wait that's not enough. Throw Lebron in there and then it's more fair.

Shouldn't you be celebrating your impending championship now that you guys got kidd and are resigning lin?

Bruno
07-05-2012, 09:13 PM
they got the championship.

cuban can sit on his *** for ten years and he'll still be beloved in dallas.

Dirk should go play in Brooklyn. :laugh2:

Nighthawk
07-05-2012, 09:15 PM
C's will take em

Jujuan Johnson
Brandon Bass
Jeff Green
Kris Joesph
1 rd Pick

For

Dirk
Brandon Wright

KG/Stiemsma/Melo
Dirk/Sullinger/Wright
Pierce/Pietrus
Bradley/Terry
Rondo/Moore

DR_1
07-05-2012, 09:26 PM
put down the pipe

;)

jayjay33
07-05-2012, 09:35 PM
If dirk doesn't want to rebuild in D-town why the hell would he do it any place else...it's either a contender or noting.

Avenged
07-05-2012, 09:39 PM
Bynum for Marion + Dirk **** it.

hell no :speechless:

waveycrockett
07-05-2012, 09:40 PM
Dirk should force his way to Brooklyn

Il Mago50
07-05-2012, 10:04 PM
I`m not sure man, I understand that Dirk could be frustrated since he`s lost Chandler, Kidd, Terry, etc. in the past two seasons. That being said, he`s won a championship so I think more then anything he wants a team that can be competitive to keep him happy there since that is his home.

http://www.hoopsworld.com/2013-nba-free-agents

If they can survive the year with some lesser talent, Dallas will be option number one for Dwight and Paul in free agency because players know Cuban does what it takes to win the ship. As well, they could break bank for Harden, Ellis, anyone of those great young PGs and set themselves up for Dirk`s twilight 2-3 years of top notch play.

Il Mago50
07-05-2012, 10:05 PM
C's will take em

Jujuan Johnson
Brandon Bass
Jeff Green
Kris Joesph
1 rd Pick

For

Dirk
Brandon Wright

KG/Stiemsma/Melo
Dirk/Sullinger/Wright
Pierce/Pietrus
Bradley/Terry
Rondo/Moore

lmao more like Bradley, multiple firsts and probably Sullinger and others to even talk...or Rondo as the main piece.

eibbor
07-05-2012, 10:13 PM
lmao more like Bradley, multiple firsts and probably Sullinger and others to even talk...or Rondo as the main piece.

:laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2:

JNA17
07-05-2012, 10:15 PM
Bynum for Dirk...are you people ****ing high? a declining Dirk for a not even in his prime Bynum? GTFO!

With that said, pull a Steve Nash type of deal and trade multiple first round picks, blake, Metta, and whatever expiring contract + cash. They get expiring contracts and an all clear cap space to sign anybody.

....hey if it happened to Nash, it can happen to Dirk OKAY!?

Young2Kinsler
07-05-2012, 10:43 PM
I think the only way Cuban would consider trading Dirk was if Dirk asked for it. That being said, I don't know if Dirk ever would, but if he did, I would hope Cuban would do it for him as long as we get the right pieces for the rebuild

still1ballin
07-05-2012, 10:53 PM
Come on Nash! Go and recruit him!

Young2Kinsler
07-05-2012, 10:56 PM
Come on Nash! Go and recruit him!

LOL at Cuban trading him anywhere like LA without an amazing package

JasonJohnHorn
07-05-2012, 11:14 PM
Cuban has let so many great players go for nothing. Nash. Findley. Chandler. SMH.

Dallas is officially in re-building mode. They will need to build through the draft.

Young2Kinsler
07-05-2012, 11:20 PM
I love how people twist a 2 week article to say something it doesn't

Losoway
07-05-2012, 11:27 PM
i really dont understand the logic of cuban breaking up a championship winning team to chase a player that never was a sure shot.

dumb poker move

mVpDirk41
07-05-2012, 11:31 PM
Dirk for Pau or Amare. . send him to his friends. . Nash in LA or Kidd and Ty in Knicks

mrblisterdundee
07-05-2012, 11:49 PM
Time for Dirk Nowitzki to get traded to Los Angeles for Pau Gasol.

Baller1
07-05-2012, 11:52 PM
Durant and Dirk playing alongside each other... :drool:

Mr.B
07-06-2012, 12:00 AM
i really dont understand the logic of cuban breaking up a championship winning team to chase a player that never was a sure shot.

dumb poker move

That's because you don't understand the consequences of the luxury tax, especially for repeat offenders. Cuban has put a 50+ win team on the court for over the last decade. Seriously how many teams can say that? Cuban is not an idiot. He's a business man and sometimes business men have to make shrude decisions. He blew up the team because the teams honestly did not have a very good chance of repeating. Honestly does anyone think that team would have beat OKC again? An OKC team that had another year of experience and played the Mavs very tough. Or a Miami team that had another year of playing together. My bet is that none of you guys would have thought the Mavs had another shot. The team was old and needs to get younger.

As far as Dirk, IF he were to ever get traded he would have to ask to get traded. Cuban would never go to him and suggest it. Also Dirk would only want to go to a team that can contend. I also believe he would not request a trade to a team unless it benefitted the Mavs long term. So you can pretty much forget any trade that includes someone with a large contract or anyone that is old. It would have to be young stars (like Eric Gordon being included in the Chris Paul trade). Of all the trades any of you guys suggested the only two that make any sense to the Mavs would be the OKC trade of Harden and Ibaka or the Bynum trade. Without someone of that caliber Cuban wouldn't do the trade. He would rather (and Dirk would rather) Dirk just retire a Maverick.

mVpDirk41
07-06-2012, 12:08 AM
That's because you don't understand the consequences of the luxury tax, especially for repeat offenders. Cuban has put a 50+ win team on the court for over the last decade. Seriously how many teams can say that? Cuban is not an idiot. He's a business man and sometimes business men have to make shrude decisions. He blew up the team because the teams honestly did not have a very good chance of repeating. Honestly does anyone think that team would have beat OKC again? An OKC team that had another year of experience and played the Mavs very tough. Or a Miami team that had another year of playing together. My bet is that none of you guys would have thought the Mavs had another shot. The team was old and needs to get younger.

As far as Dirk, IF he were to ever get traded he would have to ask to get traded. Cuban would never go to him and suggest it. Also Dirk would only want to go to a team that can contend. I also believe he would not request a trade to a team unless it benefitted the Mavs long term. So you can pretty much forget any trade that includes someone with a large contract or anyone that is old. It would have to be young stars (like Eric Gordon being included in the Chris Paul trade). Of all the trades any of you guys suggested the only two that make any sense to the Mavs would be the OKC trade of Harden and Ibaka or the Bynum trade. Without someone of that caliber Cuban wouldn't do the trade. He would rather (and Dirk would rather) Dirk just retire a Maverick.

the thing is that. . Cuban and MBT screwed up. . Dirk resigned for less so

can create a team that would contend while Dirk is nearing his retirement. .

If Cuban really cares for Dirk. . He should think whats best for Dirk's legacy. .

IMO

LAKERMANIA
07-06-2012, 12:10 AM
We're willing to take Dirk... We'll offer Pau and future 1st rounders :D

QuaLiThADoN
07-06-2012, 12:10 AM
Call me an idiot but if Brooklyn misses out on the Dwightmare, I can bet there is an 80% chance there are Nowitzki to BK rumors. Billy is dumb enough to do a move like that which I definitely would not approve of but then again who am I. I also see on the other end that Cuban may not want anything to do with the evil vodka producing russian

Mr.B
07-06-2012, 12:14 AM
the thing is that. . Cuban and MBT screwed up. . Dirk resigned for less so

can create a team that would contend while Dirk is nearing his retirement. .

If Cuban really cares for Dirk. . He should think whats best for Dirk's legacy. .

IMO

I believe if Dirk went to Cuban and said I want to be traded to team A that Cuban would find out a way to do it. He would only do it though if it included a third team and the Mavs got back young talent and draft picks.

Mr.B
07-06-2012, 12:14 AM
We're willing to take Dirk... We'll offer Pau and future 1st rounders :D

:facepalm:

mVpDirk41
07-06-2012, 12:19 AM
Dirk is a really nice guy. . i don't think he'll leave. He's not that kind of guy. . but i a opportunity presents itself, i hope he grab it. . .

Dirk for Pau would be nice. . flipping pau to ATL for Josh Smith sounds nicer. .

Mr.B
07-06-2012, 12:21 AM
Dirk is a really nice guy. . i don't think he'll leave. He's not that kind of guy. . but i a opportunity presents itself, i hope he grab it. . .

Dirk for Pau would be nice. . flipping pau to ATL for Josh Smith sounds nicer. .

Pau is an aging player with a huge contract. Not exactly the kind of play you rebuild your team around.

mVpDirk41
07-06-2012, 12:25 AM
Pau is an aging player with a huge contract. Not exactly the kind of play you rebuild your team around.

i know. . but for tanking purpose its good. . lol. .

lets try to get to the lottery instead. .

Mr.B
07-06-2012, 12:34 AM
i know. . but for tanking purpose its good. . lol. .

lets try to get to the lottery instead. .

I still don't see how that is good. Pau is still a very good player. Just like having Dirk, having Pau is only going to help the Mavs win games. If that's the case I would rather have Dirk.

Gagan136
07-06-2012, 12:38 AM
I dont think dirk will ask for a trade, i think he will play out his career as a mav.

mVpDirk41
07-06-2012, 12:39 AM
nah. . Gasol can't carry the mavs like dirk did. . .

smith&wesson
07-06-2012, 12:40 AM
gasol for disco dirk

bynum + fillers for howard

nash
kobe
artest
dirk
howard

214boyz
07-06-2012, 12:55 AM
Tank the season and draft Shabazz Muhammad (if he comes out)

Mr.B
07-06-2012, 01:03 AM
gasol for disco dirk

bynum + fillers for howard

nash
kobe
artest
dirk
howard

Better yet... Rodrigue Beaubois for Chris Paul, Dominique Jones for Dwayne Wade, Jianlian Yi for Kevin Durant, Brian Cardinal for Kevin Love, and Ian Mahinmi for Dwight Howard!

Paul
Wade
Durant
Dirk (with Love as his backup)
Howard

:facepalm:

Spurred1
07-06-2012, 02:41 AM
they mine as well rebuild because dirk has shown time and time again that he has never even been close to doing anything by himself... so dirk get out while you can cause you can't put anybody on your back

Interesting...name me one player who won by himself.

-Kobe24-TJ19-
07-06-2012, 03:04 AM
Lakers

JOhnnyTHaJet
07-06-2012, 03:15 AM
For god sakes, someone needs to do the LT dance.....

3ballbomber
07-06-2012, 03:18 AM
gasol for disco dirk

bynum + fillers for howard

nash
kobe
artest
dirk
howard
Well, the only way to beat stupid ***** is by doing stupid ***** but doing it even better. Stupid ***** = forming super teams with elite players to beat competition :catfight:

Whomewhome
07-06-2012, 08:08 AM
If I am Dirk.. I start asking Cuban to trade me. or I go back to Germany and cry

WERONEDC
07-06-2012, 08:55 AM
As A Dirk Nowitzki Fan i Would Hate To See Him Go Out Like This...iF The Mavs Are Going To ReBulid Lets Move Dirk To He Where Wants To Go Since Dirk && Kobe Are The Only Players iN The NBA With No-Trade Clauses iN Their Contracts...Thats Saying Alot...Dirk To Lakers or BK iM Pushing iT...Make A Move Marc...#Dirk&MavsFan Going Miss Dirk When....He Re-tires...Never Seen Nothing Like Him:facepalm::clap::clap::clap::clap:

BALKIS2K12
07-06-2012, 09:01 AM
cuban dick faced jj & ty last year dirk is fckin idiot for still being loyal to that 2 face clown cubes. come to minny for rubio we'll take you with open arms.

Knicks21
07-06-2012, 09:17 AM
They had an extremely good run, eventually they knew that their time was coming.

king4day
07-06-2012, 09:42 AM
Mark Cuban and the Mavericks were unsuccessful in their efforts to sign Deron Williams.

Dallas let Tyson Chandler and J.J. Barea go in free agency last summer in an effort to create cap space.


Via Sam Amick/SI.com (via Twitter)

Thing was, Chandler was 100% the right one. What does Cuban expect will happen with a PF and Center (howard) on the floor who both are goto scorers?
Valiant effort, but at the cost now of having to semi rebuild.

Mr.B
07-06-2012, 10:04 AM
cuban dick faced jj & ty last year dirk is fckin idiot for still being loyal to that 2 face clown cubes. come to minny for rubio we'll take you with open arms.

Why would Dirk ever want to go to Minnesotta? If he ever did request to be traded to the Wolves it would be for Kevin Love not Rubio.

BALKIS2K12
07-06-2012, 10:23 AM
Why would Dirk ever want to go to Minnesotta? If he ever did request to be traded to the Wolves it would be for Kevin Love not Rubio.

I guess you didnt know this but....... BAREA was closer to dirk than NASH. THIS IS TRUE ASK HIM.

Dade County
07-06-2012, 10:30 AM
gasol for disco dirk

bynum + fillers for howard

nash
kobe
artest
dirk
howard

Gasol would be traded to a third team that has young assets that the Mavs will take in the 3 to 4 team trade.

Mav's will not take Gasol salary or skill level ... lol

Artest would be traded to, so they woul dneed to maybe sign R.lewis

Mr.B
07-06-2012, 10:39 AM
I guess you didnt know this but....... BAREA was closer to dirk than NASH. THIS IS TRUE ASK HIM.

I'm very aware of how much everyone on the team liked Barea. Just because they are friends though doesn't mean he would ever want to play in Minnesotta. Plus like I said even if he did want to go play with the Wolves it would take more than Rubio. That trade would start with Kevin Love.

BALKIS2K12
07-06-2012, 10:42 AM
I'm very aware of how much everyone on the team liked Barea. Just because they are friends though doesn't mean he would ever want to play in Minnesotta. Plus like I said even if he did want to go play with the Wolves it would take more than Rubio. That trade would start with Kevin Love.

well i guess you didnt know how much cuban wanted RUBIO B4 HE GOT TO MINNY.

RUBIO & PEK FOR DIRK WOULD BE ENOUGH FOR DALLAS.

Ty Fast
07-06-2012, 10:53 AM
he wont leave

Ty Fast
07-06-2012, 10:54 AM
bosh 4 dirk

King41
07-06-2012, 03:06 PM
bosh 4 dirk

haha i wish i could see that face of bosh ^^

torocan
07-06-2012, 04:46 PM
Shouldn't you be celebrating your impending championship now that you guys got kidd and are resigning lin?

Why would we? Only a delusional Homer would think we're a favorite for the Championship.

To win the ECF, Miami would have to underperform or suffer injuries, the Knicks would have to get the chemistry right (I still have doubts about the STAT/Melo pairing), and we'd have to get through an improved Boston and Nets.

It's no different than Miami fans who think they're going to cakewalk to a championship this year with teams like OKC/Spurs and potentially the Lakers in play.

Unnecessary cheap shot Justin.

Judging a team fanbase by the rabid Homers of any team is does a disservice to those of us that actually try to study the game.

It's a wonder that more of us don't just stop reading PSD entirely. :facepalm:

King41
07-06-2012, 04:48 PM
Dirk has to feel terrible right now

Sssmush
07-06-2012, 05:14 PM
Minnesota or Utah

Hellcrooner
07-06-2012, 05:16 PM
Balkis you crack me up.

And laker fans, come on be serious it makes 0 sense for mavs to trade for PAu.

In ANY case ( and i doubt cuban woudl ever deal his golden boy to l.a) it woudl be for BYNUM.

Would dirk at pf and Pau at center work?

Maybe.......................adding nash defense and kobes defense ( have you checked it lately?) it may work if we can score 120 a game because we are receiving 115-.

Sssmush
07-06-2012, 05:19 PM
Just kidding. Seriously though... why did Dallas do that to itself? For what, just the possibility of Deron?

I thought letting Chandler go was a TERRIBLE decision. J.J. Barea was also an essential piece for them.

THEN, the Odom trade... as a Laker fan I laughed my *** off when the went out of their way to acquire Odom. Some Laker fans whined about that deal all year. Not me! I would've sent him for nothing, or even if WE had to give DALLAS a 2nd round pick.

Jason Kidd is obviously done, so, that's irrelevant.

Losing Jason Terry is huge, he is the second best player on the Mavs.

So yeah... what is the plan? I thought that Cuban voted for the new CBA and was into the new system... this almost seems like he is saying **** you to the NBA and just shutting everything down.

Or it is also possible that the players didn't appreciate some things said during the strike, and no longer see Dallas as a super cool fun lucrative place to play anymore?

justjames
07-06-2012, 05:21 PM
Balkis you crack me up.

And laker fans, come on be serious it makes 0 sense for mavs to trade for PAu.

In ANY case ( and i doubt cuban woudl ever deal his golden boy to l.a) it woudl be for BYNUM.

Would dirk at pf and Pau at center work?

Maybe.......................adding nash defense and kobes defense ( have you checked it lately?) it may work if we can score 120 a game because we are receiving 115-.

I'd do it. Putting the MVPs from 04-05 to 07-08 on a single team is a no brainer.

kntresistheheat
07-06-2012, 05:23 PM
I'm very aware of how much everyone on the team liked Barea. Just because they are friends though doesn't mean he would ever want to play in Minnesotta. Plus like I said even if he did want to go play with the Wolves it would take more than Rubio. That trade would start with Kevin Love.

Mr.B That sig pic is my dream!:speechless:

Sssmush
07-06-2012, 05:24 PM
Balkis you crack me up.

And laker fans, come on be serious it makes 0 sense for mavs to trade for PAu.

In ANY case ( and i doubt cuban woudl ever deal his golden boy to l.a) it woudl be for BYNUM.

Would dirk at pf and Pau at center work?

Maybe.......................adding nash defense and kobes defense ( have you checked it lately?) it may work if we can score 120 a game because we are receiving 115-.

I agree sir. All things considered, it is very marginal to trade Pau for Dirk, and depending on the length of their deals, I would probably keep Pau.

Dirk is a great scorer but Pau is a somewhat better defender and rebounder, and a bit more versatile.

Fnom11
07-06-2012, 05:27 PM
Eh I don't see why he would want to rebuild, if anything having Dirk would slow their rebuilding process down.

Sssmush
07-06-2012, 05:27 PM
Thing was, Chandler was 100% the right one. What does Cuban expect will happen with a PF and Center (howard) on the floor who both are goto scorers?
Valiant effort, but at the cost now of having to semi rebuild.

SEMI rebuild? who is even left on their team?

Sssmush
07-06-2012, 05:29 PM
Pau seems to be more athletic also, and doesn't seem to have nearly as much mileage as Dirk.

MTL_123
07-06-2012, 05:32 PM
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JordansBulls
07-06-2012, 05:45 PM
Omer, Deng, Boozer, Rip for Dirk, Marion and Vince

BKLYNpigeon
07-06-2012, 05:47 PM
What mark Cuban did with the Dallas Mavericks was simply amazing.

even with the same team I dont think the Mavericks would have won another title. they're better off moving on.

gilly
07-06-2012, 06:20 PM
Marion + Dirk for Eric Gordon S&T + 1st rounder to NO? Jack/Rivers/Marion/Nowitski/Davis looks kinda nice to me?

JordansBulls
07-06-2012, 09:12 PM
Marion + Dirk for Eric Gordon S&T + 1st rounder to NO? Jack/Rivers/Marion/Nowitski/Davis looks kinda nice to me?

Isnt Gordon going to the Suns?

marj987
07-07-2012, 12:41 AM
This is all Haywood's contract fault in my opinion, he is not worth that contract.

And is still on this team.

justinnum1
07-07-2012, 12:43 AM
cuban gets pissed at other owners for overpaying, yet he gives hawyood 11mil per year?

JordansBulls
07-08-2012, 01:29 PM
cuban gets pissed at other owners for overpaying, yet he gives hawyood 11mil per year?

Did he give him that much?:speechless:

Heatcheck
07-08-2012, 01:53 PM
Omer, Deng, Boozer, Rip for Dirk, Marion and Vince

just on talent alone, you need to take out marion and vince to make it remotely fair

GiantsSwaGG
07-08-2012, 02:22 PM
I can see LTbaby being a nets fan now!

DR_1
07-08-2012, 02:56 PM
just on talent alone, you need to take out marion and vince to make it remotely fair

:facepalm: Bulls give up WAY too much in that deal as it is

gatkins11
07-08-2012, 03:38 PM
Did he give him that much?:speechless:

No, Haywood is under contract next year for a little over 8. Still, obviously too much for him.

smith&wesson
07-08-2012, 03:49 PM
the bulls should trade for him.

Cal827
07-08-2012, 03:56 PM
This might rival Cleveland 2010 offseason for worst offseason ever lol

phoenix_bladen
07-08-2012, 04:07 PM
lol cuban maybe an idiot for not resigning all their players of the championship team but he wanted to gamble for 2 more superstars to join his team and i can see his intent on doing so

but even though why would they want to sign with a team that has a 34 year old dirk

how many years could dirk play at the level he is playing now before he goes down hill?

assuming both deron and howard signed with the mavs for 5 years could dirk have contended with them until he's 39 ?


cuban was an *** for not resigning all their championship core... i mean they got him a friggen ring!! the least he could do was show them some respect and to dirk and resign the core

cuban basically used everyone as toliet paper .... wiped his *** with them and flushed them down the toliet as soon as he got them the ring

mad disrespect there and reasons why i think the loyalty of players to their teams is bs

Cromedome
07-08-2012, 04:15 PM
The obvious choice is to trade him for Josh Harrellson and Toney Douglas.

Mr.B
07-08-2012, 06:16 PM
The obvious choice is to trade him for Josh Harrellson and Toney Douglas.

Who?

THE MTL
07-08-2012, 06:20 PM
Dirk should end his career in Dallas it would only be right. The team has been winning 50 games every year for a while and havent missed the playoffs in forever. They even have a championship and Finals appearance to show for it. It would not be right for Dirk to leave the Mavs and become a ring chaser.

It's time that Dirk helps mentor the team and provide that veteran presence.

LA_Raiders
07-08-2012, 06:20 PM
Cuban gave all his marbles for Deron...

There is nobody left for them to make them contenders... Free the German & trade him for picks...

Chi, Indiana, Boston... Keep him out of the West

THE MTL
07-08-2012, 06:24 PM
I still dont understand how you throw away a CHAMPIONSHIP team over free agency. The most the free agents can do for you is win a championship! But u had the championship already! You had the team! You had the formula already! Why try to fix something that was in mint condition!

Mr.B
07-08-2012, 06:53 PM
Dirk should end his career in Dallas it would only be right. The team has been winning 50 games every year for a while and havent missed the playoffs in forever. They even have a championship and Finals appearance to show for it. It would not be right for Dirk to leave the Mavs and become a ring chaser.

It's time that Dirk helps mentor the team and provide that veteran presence.

That's why I don't see Dirk asking for a trade. I could honestly see him retiring from the NBA and playing in Germany before I could see him asking for a trade. He already has a ring, has tons of money (and doesn't spend it on stupid **** like multiple cars, houses, chains, and a posse), and is about to get married to a Sweedish girl. He also loves the low key lifestyle he has in Dallas.

Here are some pics of Dirk's fiance.
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=Dirk+Nowitzki+Girlfriend+Jessica+Olsson&FORM=IQFRDR

Gritz
07-08-2012, 07:18 PM
Why trade him when he is selling tickets?

Ebbs
07-08-2012, 07:28 PM
""It's better to miss out on the right player than to sign the wrong player," said Cuban."

This.

Also I don't think Dirk is going to ***** or anythign. He is just stating personally he isn't at the right age for a re build.

He didn't say if we rebuild I want out. . .

JordansBulls
07-09-2012, 10:41 PM
just on talent alone, you need to take out marion and vince to make it remotely fair

Maybe so, just matching up salaries and guys they may not want.

aussie
07-09-2012, 10:51 PM
I can't see him on another team :S

DoMeFavors
07-09-2012, 11:12 PM
Trade him to Memphis for Gasol

bearadonisdna
07-09-2012, 11:44 PM
If Dallas has to rebuild, the BULLS should trade Boozer and draft picks for Nowitzki.

bearadonisdna
07-09-2012, 11:47 PM
^I think that wont be good trade for both teams.

A player like Boozer could keep Dallas in the playoff hunt and the Bulls give them a first rounder or two (CHarlottes pick maybe).

hawks4
07-09-2012, 11:53 PM
Heat for minimum? Reily got em all discounted!

Stop.

kjoke
07-09-2012, 11:54 PM
dirk can go wherever he wants, even to the Heat for the min, Dallas or the media would never hate him.

bet he would cry leaving too, great guy for the city of Dalllas.

Toastyy
07-10-2012, 03:53 AM
Well new York fans are always looking to trade amare

bearadonisdna
07-10-2012, 04:23 AM
Well new York fans are always looking to trade amare

Boozer contract has 3 years for for 47 mil
vs
Amare contract for 3 years for 65 million.

So Dallas would get more flexibility taking Boozer.

Trueblue2
07-10-2012, 05:49 AM
LOL at Laker fans... Please trade Bynum for Dirk. This guarantees the Lakers will be absolutely nobody in 3 years. =D

If we traded Bynum for Dirk the only person on our roster in 3 years will be Steve Nash. So we'd have Nash on the last year of his contract/career, a ridiculous amount of cap space, and bird rights on Kobe, Pau, and Dirk when they're all about to enter the last contract of their respective careers (ie. cheap contracts). Add to that we're the Lakers and I think we'll manage just fine. Dirk may retire at the end of his contract, but I could see Kobe and Pau coming back for relatively cheap contracts (like Nash/KG sized contracts). Get it done mitch!


And Boozer/Amare for Dirk are horrible suggestions, if Cuban trades Dirk he wants to rebuild that means no players on big contracts with injury concerns that are nearing the end of their primes.

kombayn
07-10-2012, 06:25 AM
I would build the team back up like this if I had the shot.

PG - Ramon Sessions (sign)/Rodrigue Beaubois
SG - Delonte West/O.J. Mayo (sign)
SF - Shawn Marion/Vince Carter
PF - Dirk Nowitzski/Elton Brand (pick-up on amensty waiver)
C - Chris Kaman (sign)/Brendan Haywood

That's a team that could compete right away and they would all come cheap without compromising cap-space in the future except for O.J. Mayo & Chris Kaman but it wouldn't exploit the whole thing.

bearadonisdna
07-10-2012, 06:53 AM
If we traded Bynum for Dirk the only person on our roster in 3 years will be Steve Nash. So we'd have Nash on the last year of his contract/career, a ridiculous amount of cap space, and bird rights on Kobe, Pau, and Dirk when they're all about to enter the last contract of their respective careers (ie. cheap contracts). Add to that we're the Lakers and I think we'll manage just fine. Dirk may retire at the end of his contract, but I could see Kobe and Pau coming back for relatively cheap contracts (like Nash/KG sized contracts). Get it done mitch!


And Boozer/Amare for Dirk are horrible suggestions, if Cuban trades Dirk he wants to rebuild that means no players on big contracts with injury concerns that are nearing the end of their primes.

Its more reasonable than what you are considering, trading Bynum to them who will be an unresricted FA and may not even resign.

Oppsie, traded for nothing.

bearadonisdna
07-10-2012, 06:58 AM
If we traded Bynum for Dirk the only person on our roster in 3 years will be Steve Nash. So we'd have Nash on the last year of his contract/career, a ridiculous amount of cap space, and bird rights on Kobe, Pau, and Dirk when they're all about to enter the last contract of their respective careers (ie. cheap contracts). Add to that we're the Lakers and I think we'll manage just fine. Dirk may retire at the end of his contract, but I could see Kobe and Pau coming back for relatively cheap contracts (like Nash/KG sized contracts). Get it done mitch!


And Boozer/Amare for Dirk are horrible suggestions, if Cuban trades Dirk he wants to rebuild that means no players on big contracts with injury concerns that are nearing the end of their primes.

Dirk is 34, who do you think they are gonna get for him? Jordan?
Boozer and assets is reasonable for a team that wants to rebuild but still be competitive. ie make playoffs and make money.

And BTW, based on the contracts given out to other big men this offseason , boozers contract is looking more reasonable than it once did.
And then you say 'DONT WANT BIG CONTRACTS WITH INJURY CONCERNS' and then u say Bynum?

FrenchSunsFan
07-10-2012, 07:37 AM
Frye + Kieff + Telfair + 1st round pick for Dirk.

Heatcheck
07-10-2012, 09:45 AM
^I think that wont be good trade for both teams.

A player like Boozer could keep Dallas in the playoff hunt and the Bulls give them a first rounder or two (CHarlottes pick maybe).

no he cant. He really, really cant. That guys terrible.

JordansBulls
07-10-2012, 11:15 AM
no he cant. He really, really cant. That guys terrible.

Not terrible, but certainly not a #1 guy.

blastmasta26
07-10-2012, 01:05 PM
I would build the team back up like this if I had the shot.

PG - Ramon Sessions (sign)/Rodrigue Beaubois
SG - Delonte West/O.J. Mayo (sign)
SF - Shawn Marion/Vince Carter
PF - Dirk Nowitzski/Elton Brand (pick-up on amensty waiver)
C - Chris Kaman (sign)/Brendan Haywood

That's a team that could compete right away and they would all come cheap without compromising cap-space in the future except for O.J. Mayo & Chris Kaman but it wouldn't exploit the whole thing.
That team could compete, but only for a low playoff seed.

Heatcheck
07-10-2012, 01:06 PM
Not terrible, but certainly not a #1 guy.
yeah more like overpaid and underachieving a bit

bearadonisdna
07-10-2012, 07:17 PM
no he cant. He really, really cant. That guys terrible.

Not exactly. He helped Power the Bulls to a top record.
Could do the same for another team.

bearadonisdna
07-10-2012, 07:18 PM
^Maybe not a top record but at least in the playoff hunt and keep the team relevant.

Losoway
07-10-2012, 08:43 PM
he will never leave dallas... dallas has been losing every season year after year before they won the championship

dirk needs to shutup

Mr.B
07-10-2012, 10:02 PM
he will never leave dallas... dallas has been losing every season year after year before they won the championship

dirk needs to shutup

Dirk didn't actually say anything. And you do realize that the Mavericks had 12 straight 50 win seasons right? Exactly how many teams have ever done that?

beasted86
07-10-2012, 10:12 PM
Mark Cuban would rather let Dirk retire than trade him to a contender for crap.

JordansBulls
07-11-2012, 09:03 AM
Mark Cuban would rather let Dirk retire than trade him to a contender for crap.

Unless Dirk asked for it.