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jesusr77
07-05-2012, 07:34 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA
Houston has agreed to terms with Jeremy Lin on an offer sheet, source tells Y!

Boom!!! Now Knicks need to match

justinnum1
07-05-2012, 07:34 PM
:laugh:

justjames
07-05-2012, 07:35 PM
This offseason has not been good for the Mavs and Knicks.

GrumpyOldMan
07-05-2012, 07:36 PM
any word if he got his 40 million?

Jroz
07-05-2012, 07:37 PM
Good news for Knicks fans..offer can't get any higher..now we can match 30 and call it a day..better than 40 over 4!

jesusr77
07-05-2012, 07:37 PM
The Knicks saw this coming they tried to scare teams off by saying they would match any offer. Houston called their bluff. Show them the Pocket Aces Glen!!!

Chronz
07-05-2012, 07:37 PM
Morey is taking alot of gambles this year, looks like hes blowing it up in Houston, now he just needs to unload Scola and the process is complete.

JerseyPalahniuk
07-05-2012, 07:37 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA
Terms are immediately unknown on Lin offer sheet, but plan has been to backload money in deal. New York has vowed to match any offer.

Woah

EDUTEXANS
07-05-2012, 07:38 PM
same contract? 4 years, 31 million?

jayjay33
07-05-2012, 07:39 PM
Really hop the Knicks match, opens up a session to Houston trade.

jesusr77
07-05-2012, 07:39 PM
any word if he got his 40 million?

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA
Terms are immediately unknown on Lin offer sheet, but plan has been to backload money in deal. New York has vowed to match any offer.

Dade County
07-05-2012, 07:40 PM
Knicks are going to have to trade Amare or Chandler in the next 2yrs if they sign Lin.

RC3
07-05-2012, 07:40 PM
Lol.
https://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/555750_421727017879074_165799762_n.jpg

justinnum1
07-05-2012, 07:40 PM
houston should offer him the most possible

Cal827
07-05-2012, 07:40 PM
Knicks are having one terrible off-season.

jesusr77
07-05-2012, 07:42 PM
Lol.
https://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/555750_421727017879074_165799762_n.jpg

LOL you gotta give them credit he's trying everything.

ewmania
07-05-2012, 07:42 PM
Lol.
https://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/555750_421727017879074_165799762_n.jpg

hahahah wasnt he already in houston and his welcome wasnt quite welcomed (winnie the pooh voice)

Delusional
07-05-2012, 07:42 PM
Is he gonna get the max? :laugh2:

JWO35
07-05-2012, 07:42 PM
If the Knicks match :pity:

zoned88
07-05-2012, 07:43 PM
idk why people are flipping out.. this was expected.. the point of grunwald telling Lin to test The market.. Houston plans to backload The contract which by then melo, stat and Tyson come off the books.. sign in new York.. capital of endorsements galore.. or Houston.. land of grills and candy paint buicks.

ewmania
07-05-2012, 07:44 PM
If the Knicks match :pity:

31mil is nothing... chandler makes more than that

ManRam
07-05-2012, 07:44 PM
The match is imminent...

The Knicks will absolutely match it. But hey, props to Houston for driving the price WAY up.

jesusr77
07-05-2012, 07:44 PM
Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine
Source with knowledge of Knicks' thinking: "They will match any offer on Lin up to 1 billion dollars"

Lol yeah go Dolan...LOL

jesusr77
07-05-2012, 07:45 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA
Lin offer sheet will be a three year deal, with team option for the fourth, league source tells Y!

mjt20mik
07-05-2012, 07:45 PM
Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine
Source with knowledge of Knicks' thinking: "They will match any offer on Lin up to 1 billion dollars"

Lol yeah go Dolan...LOL

lmao

ewmania
07-05-2012, 07:45 PM
Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine
Source with knowledge of Knicks' thinking: "They will match any offer on Lin up to 1 billion dollars"

Lol yeah go Dolan...LOL

hahaah its a war going on right now. FA is more exciting than the freaking NBA rigged finals

jesusr77
07-05-2012, 07:46 PM
I actually the the 4th yr option for the Knicks, it gives us a choice.

xxplayerxx23
07-05-2012, 07:46 PM
Dolan cares about money and money only. Fact is if they offered us a Great Sign and trade Dolan would still say no because lin makes him too much money

justinnum1
07-05-2012, 07:46 PM
aldridage
Source confirms Rockets have committed a 4 yr, $30M sheet to NYK guard Jeremy Lin. NY will have 3 days to match when moratorium ends next wk

obvious they will match but man talk about overpaying

Cal827
07-05-2012, 07:46 PM
Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine
Source with knowledge of Knicks' thinking: "They will match any offer on Lin up to 1 billion dollars"

Lol yeah go Dolan...LOL

:laugh: This is going to end well lol

mjt20mik
07-05-2012, 07:47 PM
The amount of money he will make NY is ridiculous. I see NY matching.

DragonJaii
07-05-2012, 07:47 PM
not that bad, has a team option 4th yr

jesusr77
07-05-2012, 07:47 PM
hahaah its a war going on right now. FA is more exciting than the freaking NBA rigged finals

LOl for real!!!

torocan
07-05-2012, 07:47 PM
That's the problem when you say you'll match any offer... someone is ALWAYS willing to test you on it.

Just like in Poker... maybe they think you got pocket Aces, maybe they think you got 2's.

Knicks just got Raised. Time to fold or show the cards...

HouRealCoach
07-05-2012, 07:47 PM
The deal is not alot... ITs like 5 for the first, 5 for the 2nd, and 10 for each of the 3rd & 4th

U guys act like the Knicks are in a bad position but they will match lol

dtmagnet
07-05-2012, 07:47 PM
I guess NY doesn't give a F about this supposed "super luxury tax."

ewmania
07-05-2012, 07:47 PM
lin accepted it but actually accepted this from the knicks because he knows we will match it

jesusr77
07-05-2012, 07:48 PM
David Aldridge ‏@daldridgetnt
Source confirms Rockets have committed a 4 yr, $30M sheet to NYK guard Jeremy Lin. NY will have 3 days to match when moratorium ends next wk

Cromedome
07-05-2012, 07:48 PM
Why is this a shock? The Rockets offered...and the Knicks will match.

That was the plan all along. Good luck in Tornoto, Fields.

shep33
07-05-2012, 07:48 PM
That's a ton of money right there. But he has a great marketing aspect about him.

HouRealCoach
07-05-2012, 07:48 PM
That's the problem when you say you'll match any offer... someone is ALWAYS willing to test you on it.

Just like in Poker... maybe they think you got pocket Aces, maybe they think you got 2's.

Knicks just got Raised. Time to fold or show the cards...

Dude they didnt even give them all he could get lol

smood999
07-05-2012, 07:48 PM
you guys realize that the amount of money the Knicks were paying during most of the 2000's...why do you think this effects them in anyway? in yr 3 Melo, Amare, Chandler will be expiring....the backload doesn't begin until yr 3...the Knicks will have to deal with the luxury tax for one yr...if you are over the cap what does it matter if you're over by 10 mil or 20 mil if your owner is willing to pay the luxury tax...you guys are silly...the Knicks are not one of the teams that are scared off by the luxury tax..

ewmania
07-05-2012, 07:48 PM
I guess NY doesn't give a F about this supposed "super luxury tax."

its new york... we could be 2-80, we still sell out the arena

zoned88
07-05-2012, 07:48 PM
3 years, 4th yr team option/ $30 mil.. great news for knicks.. unlike small.market teams.. new York can afford the luxury tax.

NYY 26 to 7
07-05-2012, 07:48 PM
Knicks are going to have to trade Amare or Chandler in the next 2yrs if they sign Lin.

No they wouldn't. Dolan isn't scared to pay the lux tax especially if he is making money. Its not a franchise that loses money.

RC3
07-05-2012, 07:49 PM
I guess NY doesn't give a F about this supposed "super luxury tax."

As others said, knicks use to pay 40 million in luxury when they were really ******.

Punk
07-05-2012, 07:49 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA
Lin offer sheet will be a three year deal, with team option for the fourth, league source tells Y!

That's a great deal. Thanks Houston.

ewmania
07-05-2012, 07:49 PM
Why is this a shock? The Rockets offered...and the Knicks will match.

That was the plan all along. Good luck in Tornoto, Fields.

hahaha toronto thought they was black balling us. they black balled theyselves.... our new GM is a boss dude I love this guy

doesnt bow down to giving up shump and gets a hall a famer who publicly said he wanted to play with Jeremy Lin

****ing beautiful

shep33
07-05-2012, 07:50 PM
Morey should've been a huge **** and offered him a $100 mill... knowing that the Knicks would eventually match.

Iron24th
07-05-2012, 07:50 PM
The knicks will match.

974life
07-05-2012, 07:50 PM
I'm happy for Lin, he got his contract finally.

ewmania
07-05-2012, 07:51 PM
Morey should've been a huge **** and offered him a $100 mill... knowing that the Knicks would eventually match.

but if the knicks didnt match then they would have to pay lin 100mil, houston isnt dumb

RC3
07-05-2012, 07:51 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA
Lin offer sheet will be a three year deal, with team option for the fourth, league source tells Y!

That's a great deal. Thanks Houston.

Daryl "the wizard" Morey strikes again. :)

ThunderousDemon
07-05-2012, 07:51 PM
The Knicks are back if they sign Linsanity.

NYY 26 to 7
07-05-2012, 07:52 PM
That's the problem when you say you'll match any offer... someone is ALWAYS willing to test you on it.

Just like in Poker... maybe they think you got pocket Aces, maybe they think you got 2's.

Knicks just got Raised. Time to fold or show the cards...

Hard to win a poker game when the other guys pockets are deeper than yours.

smood999
07-05-2012, 07:52 PM
the Knicks have only lost Landry Fields and somehow they are having a rough offseason?! I don't get it...losing Fields is better than paying 20 mil for him...

Weezy
07-05-2012, 07:52 PM
The KNICKS ARE BACK!

JerseyPalahniuk
07-05-2012, 07:52 PM
haha Marc Stein:
Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine
RT @Ian_OConnor: Lin wants more $ than reported $31M offer from HOU, according to league source. #Knicks facing hefty match (THEY'LL MATCH)

Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine
Source with knowledge of Knicks' thinking: "They will match any offer on Lin up to 1 billion dollars"

and my favorite parody Twitter account:
Mikhail Prokhorov ‏@Fake_Prokhorov
Then Nets pay 2 billion RT @ESPNSteinLine Source w knowledge of Knicks' thinking: "They will match any offer on Lin up to 1 billion dollars"

AI
07-05-2012, 07:52 PM
Awesome, Houston did us a favor. 4 years $30M, 4th year is a team option probably worth around $10M. So we get Jeremy for 3 guaranteed years at $5M, $5.2M then $10M.

#WINNING

Dade County
07-05-2012, 07:53 PM
hahaah its a war going on right now. FA is more exciting than the freaking NBA rigged finals

yeah, Lbj in the finals against dallas was something else.... only a script writer could have written out those forth quarters.

I'm glade you notice :clap:

yankeesown69
07-05-2012, 07:53 PM
He makes Dolan so much money that there won't even be a question if this is matched. The revenue he brings in will also cover the luxury tax provided Lin is a solid starting point

JerseyPalahniuk
07-05-2012, 07:53 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA
Lin's deal will be worth $9.3M "poison pill" third year of deal, league source tells Y!

I guess that .3M is just over Knicks cap?? don't understand

beasted86
07-05-2012, 07:53 PM
aldridage

obvious they will match but man talk about overpaying

How is anyone overpaying?

Lin would drive in $3-4M in revenue and merchandise each season off China alone even if he gets no better.

The Knicks might be the one overpaying when his $8M turns into $20M with luxury tax. But for Houston that is a very reasonable contract.

knicksfan42
07-05-2012, 07:54 PM
This offseason has not been good for the Mavs and Knicks.

Its been fine for the Knicks aside from not getting Nash. How much Lin is resigned for is irrelevant we're over the soft cap so this doesn't in any way hamper our ability to make moves all it does is hurt Dolan's wallet.

AI
07-05-2012, 07:54 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA
Lin's deal will be worth $9.3M "poison pill" third year of deal, league source tells Y!

I guess that .3M is just over Knicks cap?? don't understand

Thanks Houston, his contract will actually be better than I expected.

smood999
07-05-2012, 07:55 PM
so team option 4th season...if the Knicks match, which they will...that means in 3 yrs...Stat, Melo, Chandler, Lin will all be coming off the books...not bad at all...overreacting to one yr of being in the luxury tax..

John Walls Era
07-05-2012, 07:55 PM
Morey is taking alot of gambles this year, looks like hes blowing it up in Houston, now he just needs to unload Scola and the process is complete.

Isnt that what Rockets fans wanted? They were upset with competitive teams (led to low lottery picks).

jesusr77
07-05-2012, 07:55 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA
Lin's deal will be worth $9.3M "poison pill" third year of deal, league source tells Y!

WE EAT THOSE POISON PILLS!!! LOL

jesusr77
07-05-2012, 07:56 PM
Alan Hahn ‏@alanhahn
According to @WojYahooNBA, Lin offer sheet is $5M, $5.2M and the balloon third year is $9.3M plus team option 4th. Jerome James cost more!

YEA

RC3
07-05-2012, 07:56 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA
Lin's deal will be worth $9.3M "poison pill" third year of deal, league source tells Y!

I guess that .3M is just over Knicks cap?? don't understand

OH no. The poison pill. :cry:

JerseyPalahniuk
07-05-2012, 07:57 PM
IF KNICKS MATCH:

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA
New York has $64M committed to four players in 3rd year of Lin deal when he'll be on books for $9.3M -- which doesn't include Jason Kidd

DragonJaii
07-05-2012, 07:57 PM
coulda been worse

smood999
07-05-2012, 07:57 PM
If the Knicks match, it will be the same contract as Fields since the 4th yr is a team option.....and if Lin pans out 10 mil wont be bad in yr 4...you guys tell me which is the better deal 3/20 for Lin or Fields...guess all the laughing could stop now..

JWO35
07-05-2012, 07:58 PM
31mil is nothing... chandler makes more than that

Yeah, but we all know this somewhat overpaying...

nycericanguy
07-05-2012, 07:59 PM
3 years 19.3m?

Not much of a poison pill, Morey might have done NY a favor. Knicks were prepared to pay Lin 4 years/25.4m.

knicksfan42
07-05-2012, 07:59 PM
Alan Hahn ‏@alanhahn
According to @WojYahooNBA, Lin offer sheet is $5M, $5.2M and the balloon third year is $9.3M plus team option 4th. Jerome James cost more!

YEA

Getting paid the same amount Fields is getting paid plus the 4th year TEAM option.

xabial
07-05-2012, 08:00 PM
Team OPTIONS are **** awesome. Makes the Player a Great Trade chip whither or Not he sucks Moving On. (Not that I want the Knicks to Trade Lin)

I can Take Lin For $5M, $5.2M, $9.5M, and a Team Option for a Fourth Year. $19.7M guaranteed 3 Year Contract, is a lot better than the rumored 4 Year $40M Deal. :clap:

$19.7M For Lin Is Not Overpaying At All. This guy took the Knicks to a 7-0 Record Without Carmelo And Amare, since he started receiving Major PT.

In his 12 starts before the All-Star break, Lin averaged 22.5 points and 8.7 assists, and New York had a 9–3 record.

Not To Mention Jeremy Lin is the first Player in NBA history to score at least 20 points and have seven assists in each of his first five starts. (All Wins)

He's the reason NY MADE THE PLAYOFFS in the first Place. He took over, when Knicks Were OUT and had a Sub .500 Record.

BEST DAY OF MY KNICK LIFEEE!!! I don't even care that PSD HATES LIN!!! You'll hear his name AGAIN, when LINSANITY TAKES OVER. Just give him the ball ******** Carmelo.


*Note*- When Carmelo Came Back From Injury Linsanity Died and Knicks Lost 6 out of 7, or something Like That. Lin's #'s Fell across the Board.. Their Games Don't Mesh well together BUT AT LEAST Lin WINS YOU GAMES Carmelo! And he PASSES!

smood999
07-05-2012, 08:01 PM
someone tell me what is the significance of overpaying if you are already over the cap and you face only one season with the luxury tax...

Beltrans Mole
07-05-2012, 08:01 PM
Great, great deal for the Knicks. Thanks Houston!

Punk
07-05-2012, 08:01 PM
@basketballtalk: To be clear: The Rockets spent all day negotiating Jeremy Lin's new deal with the Knicks. How nice of them.

:laugh:

AI
07-05-2012, 08:02 PM
Knicks forum just crashed :laugh2:

AI
07-05-2012, 08:03 PM
@basketballtalk: To be clear: The Rockets spent all day negotiating Jeremy Lin's new deal with the Knicks. How nice of them.

:laugh:

This.

shep33
07-05-2012, 08:07 PM
It actually isn't that bad. Knicks had to do it, they needed a pg.

Good job fellas :cheers:

Jarvo
07-05-2012, 08:09 PM
:laugh:

NYflightboy
07-05-2012, 08:09 PM
@basketballtalk: To be clear: The Rockets spent all day negotiating Jeremy Lin's new deal with the Knicks. How nice of them.

:laugh:

Grunwald is such a BOSS!

Punk
07-05-2012, 08:11 PM
The entire Knicks board was ready for someone to offer him 40 million or 50 million to piss us off. Then Houston just gives him the same contract we were going to offer :laugh2:

xabial
07-05-2012, 08:12 PM
No Wonder they Call Houston's GM.. Daryl "The Wizard" Morey. AWESOME **F*ing** Deal for Lin.

:worthy: He really is a Wizard. Lets Trade GM's...

Probably could've gotten us Tyson Chandler for around $40M With a Team Option for the 4th or 5th Years.....

torocan
07-05-2012, 08:12 PM
Sounds like Morey AND Lin did the Knicks a HUGE favor.

Original terms were supposed to be 4 years/$30M with 4th year player option.

Sounding like Lin really wants to play for NY.

I guess Lin wasn't kidding in the interviews when he said Kidd was his hero...

RLundi
07-05-2012, 08:13 PM
I'm not really high on Lin, especially not in New York with Melo dominating the ball. I was excited to see what he could do in Houston, but I fully expect the Knicks to match and no cohesion next year.

Avenged
07-05-2012, 08:15 PM
Damn, Lin. I hope for the Knicks sake this guy is worth it.

Punk
07-05-2012, 08:16 PM
I'm not really high on Lin, especially not in New York with Melo dominating the ball. I was excited to see what he could do in Houston, but I fully expect the Knicks to match and no cohesion next year.
Actually, Lin dominated the ball when Melo/Amare were in the lineup with him.

Bigbadmoffo
07-05-2012, 08:17 PM
Lin Kidd!! It's over Knicks got the title sealed up next year:p

NYflightboy
07-05-2012, 08:17 PM
In the first 3 years he's getting paid just as much as Landry Fields. I'll consider that a win.

NYflightboy
07-05-2012, 08:19 PM
Lin Kidd!! It's over Knicks got the title sealed up next year:p

Nope but Kidd/Lin gives us an upgrade over last season's PG corp.

RLundi
07-05-2012, 08:19 PM
Actually, Lin dominated the ball when Melo/Amare were in the lineup with him.

Wasn't that why Melo was pouting and frustrated? Then once Lin went down and D'Antoni got fired, Melo was dominating the ball again and they were winning, so I'm not sure if the coach (I can't remember his name for a reason) goes away from that.

But then again, it's a brand new season.

EDIT: Woodson :D

Slimsim
07-05-2012, 08:20 PM
Not bad not bad at all

knicksfan42
07-05-2012, 08:20 PM
Damn, Lin. I hope for the Knicks sake this guy is worth it.

What are you ******** me this is great. We get Lin for the same amount Toronto is paying Fields with a 4th year team option for us if Lin plays great. This is a really good deal for us.

Slimsim
07-05-2012, 08:20 PM
Wasn't that why Melo was pouting and frustrated? Then once Lin went down and D'Antoni got fired, Melo was dominating the ball again and they were winning, so I'm not sure if the coach (I can't remember his name for a reason) goes away from that.

But then again, it's a brand new season.

EDIT: Woodson :D

Nothing a training camp cant fix

knicksfan42
07-05-2012, 08:21 PM
Lin Kidd!! It's over Knicks got the title sealed up next year:p

Nope we just have a solid starter with great potential and a proven leader who just happens to be the best available back up PG this offseason.

Evolution23
07-05-2012, 08:21 PM
Thanks for negotiating that contract Houston.

Knick_Fever
07-05-2012, 08:21 PM
:laugh:

Dude, do you work? Just wondering dude because I see your name all over the place here.

torocan
07-05-2012, 08:22 PM
Damn, Lin. I hope for the Knicks sake this guy is worth it.

For $6.6M/year for 3 years guaranteed and a TEAM OPTION for year 4?

ARE YOU JOKING?

He walked away from $10M in guaranteed money to stay with the Knicks, and didn't even bother shopping himself to another team.

Good luck finding a player in a similar position that will do that...

LongIslandIcedZ
07-05-2012, 08:23 PM
Wasn't that why Melo was pouting and frustrated? Then once Lin went down and D'Antoni got fired, Melo was dominating the ball again and they were winning, so I'm not sure if the coach (I can't remember his name for a reason) goes away from that.

But then again, it's a brand new season.

EDIT: Woodson :D

It was the very short stint during the Woodson era that all 3 were playing. They played very good together and won a bunch. Having said that, it was an extremely small sample size. But like you said, its a brand new season.

D-Leethal
07-05-2012, 08:25 PM
Wasn't that why Melo was pouting and frustrated? Then once Lin went down and D'Antoni got fired, Melo was dominating the ball again and they were winning, so I'm not sure if the coach (I can't remember his name for a reason) goes away from that.

But then again, it's a brand new season.

EDIT: Woodson :D

Melo was dominating the ball once Lin and STAT went down on the same night. Before that, during 'Woodsanity' we were 6-1 with the highest margin of victory in the league over that time and Melo was averaging in the teens.

He wasn't pouting and frustrated then, went to to iso-ball out of necessity but thats not how it started.

I will say it remains to be seen if Melo can dominate while the team thrives simultaneously. Whenever the team has thrived, Melo was either not on the floor or barely a contributor.

More-Than-Most
07-05-2012, 08:25 PM
The Horrid off season for the knicks continues

waveycrockett
07-05-2012, 08:25 PM
Your NY Knicks 2016

Punk
07-05-2012, 08:27 PM
Wasn't that why Melo was pouting and frustrated? Then once Lin went down and D'Antoni got fired, Melo was dominating the ball again and they were winning, so I'm not sure if the coach (I can't remember his name for a reason) goes away from that.

But then again, it's a brand new season.

EDIT: Woodson :D
There was a HUGE and I mean HUGE miss conception with Melo. He was never upset. He was injury prone and D'antoni was doing the dumbest things possible and he got angry.

Example: Tyson was injured against the Bucks, Shumpert gets 4 minutes of playing time while Mike Dunleavy can't miss from 3 point range. Lin, Melo, Amare score 20 each. Knicks lose. D'antoni's explanation? "He wasn't focused" meanwhile we lost because Amare fumbled pick and roll passes from Melo and missed a key rebound....Lin yelled at him for it.

Woodson got the head coaching job and Lin continued to dominate the ball and the team played incredible basketball. 6-1 with Lin, Melo, Amare sharing the ball and the Knicks blew out the Pacers twice, Sixers, Hawks in that stretch by 20+ in first half every game.

Woodson used everything D'antoni did and all he did was preach defense and rebounding and used the bench MUCH more and the Knicks finish with a 18-6 record.

More-Than-Most
07-05-2012, 08:31 PM
When he fails and he will I will continue to Lol....He just got that contract and has proved nothing.

LongIslandIcedZ
07-05-2012, 08:32 PM
When he fails and he will I will continue to Lol....He just got that contract and has proved nothing.

You realize it is an extremely Knick friendly contract right?

xnick5757
07-05-2012, 08:35 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA
As one rival GM said: "Houston knows New York will match, but it will be more money for them in the tax distribution in three years."

knicksfan42
07-05-2012, 08:35 PM
You realize it is an extremely Knick friendly contract right?

He's a troll.

LongIslandIcedZ
07-05-2012, 08:35 PM
Any NY fan that wanted to keep Lin should be extremely happy about this deal.

More-Than-Most
07-05-2012, 08:35 PM
You realize it is an extremely Knick friendly contract right?

Yes but he has proved NOTHING....31 million for someone that has proved NOTHING...Its a knick friendly contract for a player that could suck *** for all anyone knows...Its an extreme over pay... I said before Nash was the best option...A kidd/linn combo is like putting a band aid on a broken leg...It does NOTHING

xabial
07-05-2012, 08:36 PM
Knicks Get Lin Affordably For Less than $20M, With a Team Option For 4th Year

Sign Kidd

The Horrid Off season continues.

Punk
07-05-2012, 08:36 PM
When he fails and he will I will continue to Lol....He just got that contract and has proved nothing.

This is the dumbest post I've ever read. Kyrie Irving was drafted #1 after 4 games in college and with a toe injury. What did he proven then?

He proved more than Evan Turner has done in his NBA career. Waiting for someone to fail shows how much of a loser that person is. Nice job.

waveycrockett
07-05-2012, 08:37 PM
You realize it is an extremely Knick friendly contract right?

yea owing 64 Million to just 4 players not including Shumpert, JR Smith, Novak in 3 years is very Knick friendly LOL

SACNYY
07-05-2012, 08:37 PM
Imagine if Yao was still playing and Houston also had Lin. They'd get some much publicity.

More-Than-Most
07-05-2012, 08:37 PM
He's a troll.

yes clearly.. I mean you can check my back posts and I have been saying it from day one... I said in the Nash thread when Nash was going to the knicks they would be a match made in heaven... It gets them the best player and keeps them away from the overrated that is lin...I said all of this WHEN THE KNICKS WERE EXPECTED TO SIGN NASH.... I think that speaks for itself. I have 0 hate...Lin/Kidd blows

Mr Costanza
07-05-2012, 08:38 PM
He's a troll.

No he's not. He's right for the most part. It's a lot of money for someone who has proven little besides becoming an instant celebrity for doing very little in the grand scheme of things.

RLundi
07-05-2012, 08:38 PM
Melo was dominating the ball once Lin and STAT went down on the same night. Before that, during 'Woodsanity' we were 6-1 with the highest margin of victory in the league over that time and Melo was averaging in the teens.

He wasn't pouting and frustrated then, went to to iso-ball out of necessity but thats not how it started.

I will say it remains to be seen if Melo can dominate while the team thrives simultaneously. Whenever the team has thrived, Melo was either not on the floor or barely a contributor.

Didn't the team thrive when Melo was the main contributor after Lin went down with Woodson at the helm? Woodson is a very predictable offensive coach (only surpassed by Mike Brown) but his offense is predicated on isos. It was effective with Joe Johnson and it worked nicely with Melo at the end of the season. I just wonder how Lin will be able to be effective with Melo going to work all the time.


There was a HUGE and I mean HUGE miss conception with Melo. He was never upset. He was injury prone and D'antoni was doing the dumbest things possible and he got angry.

Example: Tyson was injured against the Bucks, Shumpert gets 4 minutes of playing time while Mike Dunleavy can't miss from 3 point range. Lin, Melo, Amare score 20 each. Knicks lose. D'antoni's explanation? "He wasn't focused" meanwhile we lost because Amare fumbled pick and roll passes from Melo and missed a key rebound....Lin yelled at him for it.

Woodson got the head coaching job and Lin continued to dominate the ball and the team played incredible basketball. 6-1 with Lin, Melo, Amare sharing the ball and the Knicks blew out the Pacers twice, Sixers, Hawks in that stretch by 20+ in first half every game.

Woodson used everything D'antoni did and all he did was preach defense and rebounding and used the bench MUCH more and the Knicks finish with a 18-6 record.

I don't think Melo is a selfish player, but I think for him to truly be effective, he HAS to have the ball in his hands. Is he the kind of player that's gonna sacrifice his numbers if the team is winning with Lin at the helm? I think if it was Nash or somebody with a lot more clout, he probably wouldn't have a choice. I just don't see him taking a backseat to Lin.

LongIslandIcedZ
07-05-2012, 08:38 PM
yea owing 64 Million to just 4 players not including Shumpert, JR Smith, Novak in 3 years is very Knick friendly LOL

I didnt say the other 3 players had friendly contracts. Wonderful reading comprehension LOL

torocan
07-05-2012, 08:39 PM
Yes but he has proved NOTHING....31 million for someone that has proved NOTHING...Its a knick friendly contract for a player that could suck *** for all anyone knows...Its an extreme over pay... I said before Nash was the best option...A kidd/linn combo is like putting a band aid on a broken leg...It does NOTHING

How do you figure 3 year/$20M with a year 4 TEAM OPTION for $10M is an extreme overpay?

That's so far from an extreme overpay that it's not even funny.

$6.6M/year for the first 3 years... He took a pay cut. He knows it and the Knicks know it.

As a fan, it's MORE than fair.

Mr Costanza
07-05-2012, 08:40 PM
yea owing 64 Million to just 4 players not including Shumpert, JR Smith, Novak in 3 years is very Knick friendly LOL

You are obsessed with the Knicks.

In an Amy Fisher kind of way.

More-Than-Most
07-05-2012, 08:41 PM
This is the dumbest post I've ever read. Kyrie Irving was drafted #1 after 4 games in college and with a toe injury. What did he proven then?

He proved more than Evan Turner has done in his NBA career. Waiting for someone to fail shows how much of a loser that person is. Nice job.

Have you reread some of your own posts??? Lin had a good small stretch.... That deserves this contract? Let me guess yes because he is a knick and you are a knick fan correct?

So me expecting someone to fail means they will? Do I have some kind of powers? Are you one of those people that get angry if someone wishes injury on someone else they have never met or know or will never come across?

waveycrockett
07-05-2012, 08:41 PM
I didnt say the other 3 players had friendly contracts. Wonderful reading comprehension LOL

I think you missed the whole idea of a "poison pill" then

Punk
07-05-2012, 08:41 PM
Yes but he has proved NOTHING....31 million for someone that has proved NOTHING...Its a knick friendly contract for a player that could suck *** for all anyone knows...Its an extreme over pay... I said before Nash was the best option...A kidd/linn combo is like putting a band aid on a broken leg...It does NOTHING
Lol He proved he can play in this league and to be a good PG with potential. Stop hating.

GTFO and quit baiting.

LongIslandIcedZ
07-05-2012, 08:42 PM
So he is making 5 million for the first two years. That is not a lot at all. Technically, wouldn't he be considered an expiring in year 3 since there is a team option for the fourth year. If that is the case, this is an excellent deal for the Knicks. Even if he sucks, in year four he could be an attractive expiring contract.

Punk
07-05-2012, 08:43 PM
Have you reread some of your own posts??? Lin had a good small stretch.... That deserves this contract? Let me guess yes because he is a knick and you are a knick fan correct?

So me expecting someone to fail means they will? Do I have some kind of powers? Are you one of those people that get angry if someone wishes injury on someone else they have never met or know or will never come across?
Funny because Dragic had the same run with similar numbers and got more money than Lin.

4 POINT PLAY LJ
07-05-2012, 08:43 PM
I don't get it, why are Knicks fans so happy? He didn't even sign any contract yet. He might not even sign with the Knicks.

LongIslandIcedZ
07-05-2012, 08:44 PM
I don't get it, why are Knicks fans so happy? He didn't even sign any contract yet. He might not even sign with the Knicks.

Knicks match this offer, which they should, he'll be a Knick

waveycrockett
07-05-2012, 08:45 PM
Funny because Dragic had the same run with similar numbers and got more money than Lin.

Dragic has been balling for like the last 3 years.

More-Than-Most
07-05-2012, 08:45 PM
Lol He proved he can play in this league and to be a good PG with potential. Stop hating.

GTFO and quit baiting.

Lol he proved all of that in 25 games started?????REALLY???? How am I baiting??? again bringing facts and backing my opinion with weight equates to baiting to knick fans... I loved them getting Nash and thought it was the best thing because hat means they do not over pay for Lin and settle for kidd... I said all of this...I am a sixers fan and said all of this as a basketball fan...GO CHECK MY BACK POSTS...I am not baiting or hating... I am being honest...Take off the homer glasses

zoned88
07-05-2012, 08:45 PM
I think you missed the whole idea of a "poison pill" then

I think u missed the whole idea of new York having A LOT A LOTTT OF MONEY to pay a luxury tax

NYKalltheway
07-05-2012, 08:45 PM
Knicks should not match this....

GrumpyOldMan
07-05-2012, 08:46 PM
If Dolan is comfortable paying the tax in year 3 that he knows he will have to pay then I say good for the Knicks. I'm personally not sold on Lin, but if this is the guy you want then you got him cheaper than I thought you would. I hope I'm wrong and it works out well for you guys. I think every sports league is better when the big markets are strong.

97NYer
07-05-2012, 08:47 PM
5, 5.2, 9.3, 9.3(team option for 4th year) this is an incredible deal compared to what we were expecting

More-Than-Most
07-05-2012, 08:47 PM
Dragic has been balling for like the last 3 years.

25 games in knick time------------------>all

Punk
07-05-2012, 08:47 PM
Dragic has been balling for like the last 3 years.

Dragic putting up 7 points & 2 assists before last season really is ballin!

Da Knicks
07-05-2012, 08:48 PM
Thank you Houston you owed us!!!

waveycrockett
07-05-2012, 08:48 PM
I think u missed the whole idea of new York having A LOT A LOTTT OF MONEY to pay a luxury tax

Dolan has always had a ALOT of money to pay the luxury tax. Thats never stopped them from being trash.

DragonJaii
07-05-2012, 08:49 PM
5, 5.2, 9.3, 9.3(team option for 4th year) this is an incredible deal compared to what we were expecting

the team option is really key

LongIslandIcedZ
07-05-2012, 08:49 PM
Lol he proved all of that in 25 games started?????REALLY???? How am I baiting??? again bringing facts and backing my opinion with weight equates to baiting to knick fans... I loved them getting Nash and thought it was the best thing because hat means they do not over pay for Lin and settle for kidd... I said all of this...I am a sixers fan and said all of this as a basketball fan...GO CHECK MY BACK POSTS...I am not baiting or hating... I am being honest...Take off the homer glasses

I am not going to accuse of baiting, that would be petty and a little childish.

I doubt you would argue that 5 million is too much for Lin. The questionable number is the 9.5 or whatever it is in year 3 and 4. Now lets just say Lin isnt all he is cracked up to be in year 1 and 2. Yea it sucks that the Knicks are paying 5 million for a ****** player, but in year 3, he becomes an expiring contract since year 4 involves a team option. What is so wrong with that deal that the Knicks are "continuing to have a bad offseason."

What would have been a smarter move?

rwynyc
07-05-2012, 08:49 PM
If anyone knows NY and how loyal asians are regardless of if he sucks or not they spend money and lin is a cash cow.

waveycrockett
07-05-2012, 08:49 PM
Dragic putting up 7 points & 2 assists before last season really is ballin!

Next to Lin getting waived three times in 2 years those look like HOF numbers.

BigBlueCrew
07-05-2012, 08:50 PM
Next to Lin getting waived three times in 2 years those look like HOF numbers.

Do they really Wavey??? hahaha

BigBlueCrew
07-05-2012, 08:51 PM
So my Knick brothers I heard we are gonna crap out some poison pill?

CEasFiRe
07-05-2012, 08:51 PM
hes gonna be a knick nbd

RLundi
07-05-2012, 08:51 PM
Next to Lin getting waived three times in 2 years those look like HOF numbers.

Queen Troll.

RLundi
07-05-2012, 08:51 PM
How did this end up being a bait and troll thread lol?

waveycrockett
07-05-2012, 08:52 PM
Do they really Wavey??? hahaha

Your ability to put things into context is of GED-drop out level

Punk
07-05-2012, 08:52 PM
Next to Lin getting waived three times in 2 years those look like HOF numbers.

That has nothing to do with proving my point. Dragic did not prove anything and got 30+ million for his 28 games as a starter. Lin got a similar deal.

Same damn thing.

BigBlueCrew
07-05-2012, 08:52 PM
How did this end up being a bait and troll thread lol?

You havent been on this NBA forum too long have you?

knicksfan42
07-05-2012, 08:54 PM
That has nothing to do with proving my point. Dragic did not prove anything and got 30+ million for his 28 games as a starter. Lin got a similar deal.

Same damn thing.

No Lin got 19 million for 3 years with a TEAM option for year 4.

smood999
07-05-2012, 08:54 PM
yea owing 64 Million to just 4 players not including Shumpert, JR Smith, Novak in 3 years is very Knick friendly LOL

really...and starting from now through the next 4 yrs you guys owe 50 mil to 3 players Johnson, Wallace, Williams...if you re-up Lopez...60 mil possibly? Pot meet kettle...except Nets situation will be this way for the next 4 yrs...Knicks only for 1 season 3 yrs from now..

smood999
07-05-2012, 08:56 PM
the Knicks just got Lin for 3 yrs 19 mil and ppl still want to make fun of them?! look at all the other contracts floating out there...he's not worth atleast that much?!

BigBlueCrew
07-05-2012, 08:56 PM
Your ability to put things into context is of GED-drop out level

Dude, I've been following your idiotic posts the whole time.

"Goran Dragic has been ballin for 3 years"

PPG
2009 7.4
2010 7.7
2011 11.7

APG
2009 3.1
2010 2.5
2011 5.3

Now thats ballin! ;)

waveycrockett
07-05-2012, 08:57 PM
Dude, I've been following your idiotic posts the whole time.

"Goran Dragic has been ballin for 3 years"

PPG
2009 7.4
2010 7.7
2011 11.7

APG
2009 3.1
2010 2.5
2011 5.3

Now thats ballin! ;)

Ask Suns fans about him:cool:

Evolution23
07-05-2012, 08:57 PM
This is the dumbest post I've ever read. Kyrie Irving was drafted #1 after 4 games in college and with a toe injury. What did he proven then?

He proved more than Evan Turner has done in his NBA career. Waiting for someone to fail shows how much of a loser that person is. Nice job.

lol owned

More-Than-Most
07-05-2012, 08:59 PM
lol owned


amare stoudemire



Lol Owned :rolleyes:

smood999
07-05-2012, 08:59 PM
didn't the Nets sign Teletovic who hasn't played a single NBA game for roughly the same amount and no one jumps all over them?!

BigBlueCrew
07-05-2012, 08:59 PM
Ask Suns fans about him:cool:

You mean the team that just acquired him. Nah not gonna do that.

Just like Im not gonna ask Toronto fans about Landry Fields. Let them think whatever they wanna think. Its cool with me.

Punk
07-05-2012, 08:59 PM
Dude, I've been following your idiotic posts the whole time.

"Goran Dragic has been ballin for 3 years"

PPG
2009 7.4
2010 7.7
2011 11.7

APG
2009 3.1
2010 2.5
2011 5.3

Now thats ballin! ;)

Exactly what I said. He hasn't made a reply to it yet :laugh2:

Dragic put up 18, 7 assists on 48% FG I believe in 28 games. Lin put up 16, 7 assists on 44% FG shooting in 25 games.

But somehow, Dragic proved himself and earned that money and Lin did not LOL.

Keep in mind, Dragic was a backup behind Nash and Lin was a backup behind Curry.

meloman1592
07-05-2012, 09:00 PM
This is the dumbest post I've ever read. Kyrie Irving was drafted #1 after 4 games in college and with a toe injury. What did he proven then?

He proved more than Evan Turner has done in his NBA career. Waiting for someone to fail shows how much of a loser that person is. Nice job.

:clap:

Metsboi69
07-05-2012, 09:00 PM
didn't the Nets sign Teletovic who hasn't played a single NBA game for roughly the same amount and no one jumps all over them?!

The deal got re-nogotiated to a reported 3/9 mill to help to help nets keep flexibility in the Howard chase.

More-Than-Most
07-05-2012, 09:02 PM
Exactly what I said. He hasn't made a reply to it yet :laugh2:

Dragic put up 18, 7 assists on 48% FG I believe in 28 games. Lin put up 16, 7 assists on 44% FG shooting in 25 games.

But somehow, Dragic proved himself and earned that money and Lin did not LOL.

Keep in mind, Dragic was a backup behind Nash and Lin was a backup behind Curry.

So overpaying for Dragic makes overpaying for Lin ok?????

harlequin018
07-05-2012, 09:02 PM
Lin is going to get $10mm+ annually in 2014 and 2015? Terrible contract for an overrated player.

waveycrockett
07-05-2012, 09:03 PM
You mean the team that just acquired him. Nah not gonna do that.

Just like Im not gonna ask Toronto fans about Landry Fields. Let them think whatever they wanna think. Its cool with me.

I know up until recently Knicks fans weren't watching the postseason but to those who did tune in his last season in Houston was no surprise.

NYMetropolitans
07-05-2012, 09:03 PM
:laugh:

No idea what's so funny. Knicks will match.

RLundi
07-05-2012, 09:03 PM
You havent been on this NBA forum too long have you?

Just about a year longer than you :)

More-Than-Most
07-05-2012, 09:03 PM
No idea what's so funny. Knicks will match.

that is whats funny

Mr Costanza
07-05-2012, 09:04 PM
Seriously, can there be a Knick thread in this forum without it becoming a flamefest? Jeez you guys troll this team so hard.

Punk
07-05-2012, 09:04 PM
The deal got re-nogotiated to a reported 3/9 mill to help to help nets keep flexibility in the Howard chase.

He only took less money because the team is trying to get Howard. Had that not happened, he would have earned 5 million MLE which is the same price Lin is making in his 2 years of his deal.

I really like the Brooklyn Nets but they have the dumbest fans.

EastNYLos
07-05-2012, 09:05 PM
Man this is getting good..

waveycrockett
07-05-2012, 09:06 PM
He only took less money because the team is trying to get Howard. Had that not happened, he would have earned 5 million MLE which is the same price Lin is making in his 2 years of his deal.

I really like the Brooklyn Nets but they have the dumbest fans.

We have some slots open for new Knick fans willing to convert. You can help raise the IQ level around here.

Punk
07-05-2012, 09:06 PM
If the Knicks don't match, they will be laughed for not having a PG. If they do match, they will be laughed for taking on his salary.

The only joke is the morons in this thread trying to troll.

torocan
07-05-2012, 09:06 PM
Lin is going to get $10mm+ annually in 2014 and 2015? Terrible contract for an overrated player.

Year 4 TEAM OPTION....

And any matched RFA offer MUST be 3 years.

Reading... jeez. It's going out of style...

Mr Costanza
07-05-2012, 09:07 PM
We have some slots open for new Knick fans willing to convert. You can help raise the IQ level around here.

Join you and domefavors? Good company.

knicksfan42
07-05-2012, 09:07 PM
Year 4 TEAM OPTION....

And any matched RFA offer MUST be 3 years.

Reading... jeez. It's going out of style...

torocan its called trolling.

Punk
07-05-2012, 09:09 PM
[QUOTE=waveycrockett;22809978We have some slots open for new Knick fans willing to convert. You can help raise the IQ level around here.[/QUOTE]

Don't lie. You just want to be around multiple Net fans instead of the 12 in the forum, right?

If Lin was so overrated and proved nothing. Explain why the Nets were going to go after him if Deron bolted to Dallas?

spl3nda
07-05-2012, 09:09 PM
The only reason he gets this much hate is because he is a Knick.
On the contrary, the only reason he gets this much love is because he's a Knick and i'll admit to that.

That being said, you people are crazy trying to defend that Dragic is some hero that deserves a 4 year 34 million contract, and that Lin getting 19 over 3, and 30 over 4 is ABSOLUTELY CRAZY. Get over it. This deal works out just fine for the Knicks and Knicks fans. He's 23 years old, and he certainly has time to improve.

Both deals are fine, both PG's have potential. We'll see what the future holds, but the fact is that this ended up working out better than the Knicks expected it to.

BigBlueCrew
07-05-2012, 09:09 PM
I know up until recently Knicks fans weren't watching the postseason but to those who did tune in his last season in Houston was no surprise.

Im not really sure what this means, cuz Nets fans couldnt have been watching the postseason either for the past 5 years. But no one is denying that Dragic had a good last season.

Man you are trying hard troll haha

waveycrockett
07-05-2012, 09:10 PM
Join you and domefavors? Good company.

With Dwight and Dwill backing us up. Good company indeed

waveycrockett
07-05-2012, 09:11 PM
Im not really sure what this means, cuz Nets fans couldnt have been watching the postseason either for the past 5 years. But no one is denying that Dragic had a good last season.

Man you are trying hard troll haha

Nah we were watching, scouting Dwill and Dwight.

nate2usmc
07-05-2012, 09:12 PM
Seriously, can there be a Knick thread in this forum without it becoming a flamefest? Jeez you guys troll this team so hard.

That is true but our fellow Knicks fans don't help with overrating Knicks players and the constant trade ideas that sound ridiculous lol

Punk
07-05-2012, 09:12 PM
It's a good deal in general. Troll if you want.

BigBlueCrew
07-05-2012, 09:14 PM
Seriously, can there be a Knick thread in this forum without it becoming a flamefest? Jeez you guys troll this team so hard.

What else are they gonna do, the nets are boooooorrrinnng

Punk
07-05-2012, 09:14 PM
The only reason he gets this much hate is because he is a Knick.
On the contrary, the only reason he gets this much love is because he's a Knick and i'll admit to that.

That being said, you people are crazy trying to defend that Dragic is some hero that deserves a 4 year 34 million contract, and that Lin getting 19 over 3, and 30 over 4 is ABSOLUTELY CRAZY. Get over it. This deal works out just fine for the Knicks and Knicks fans. He's 23 years old, and he certainly has time to improve.

Both deals are fine, both PG's have potential. We'll see what the future holds, but the fact is that this ended up working out better than the Knicks expected it to.
Exactly. Thank You.

LongIslandIcedZ
07-05-2012, 09:15 PM
I'm still trying to figure out why one year (when he will be making the same amount of money as Landry Fields) is being scrutinized so much. If he sucks, then in year 3 he becomes a valuable asset as an expiring contract. If he doesnt suck, then they have a quality point guard and 9 million a year. I just fail to see whats so bad about it.

More-Than-Most
07-05-2012, 09:16 PM
Don't lie. You just want to be around multiple Net fans instead of the 12 in the forum, right?

If Lin was so overrated and proved nothing. Explain why the Nets were going to go after him if Deron bolted to Dallas?

What is my excuse??? I am a sixer fan.... I know my team sucks and will be stuck in mediocrity forever...We continually take on dumb contract after dumb contract as well... We will likely offer our own point guard a huge contract and probably over pay as well... The rockets/Nets/Knicks are all ******** for offering lin this contract... I am not trying to hate against the knicks but am not sold on lin...Could I be wrong sure... But so could you. Nash was Ideal....Again Nash was the fix... Lin/Kidd do not make them better...They are still like the sixers a back end playoff team.

waveycrockett
07-05-2012, 09:16 PM
What else are they gonna do, the nets are boooooorrrinnng

If you want to be fan of the Nets you can just ask, you dont have to put up this charade.

Max.This
07-05-2012, 09:17 PM
Woj reported 28.8 for 4 years i think.

RC3
07-05-2012, 09:18 PM
If you want to be fan of the Nets you can just ask, you dont have to put up this charade.

YES Nets are number one. Championship Brokkklynnn!!!!!!!

hovyboo
07-05-2012, 09:18 PM
We all know the knicks have major cash and the luxury tax really wouldnt hurt this team. That being said we have Melo, Amare, Chandler, Shump, Lin, and Kidd on 3 year deals... 2014-2015 we will be taxed out the rear end..... may as well just match fields and go for broke..... we got 3 years to win this and we should put our middle fingers up and ride this for ALL it's worth!

I know I'll get flamed for this but let's be serious, Dolan Dished out over 100 mill for a team that featured Jerome James, JAred Jefferies, Howard Isley, and washed up Steve francis, Starbury and Curry just to name a few....

Come KNICKS lets make this happen!!!!:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

waveycrockett
07-05-2012, 09:19 PM
YES Nets are number one. Championship Brokkklynnn!!!!!!!

*sign JR Smith*










KNICKS ARE BACK BABYyYyYYYYYYY, KNICKS ARE BAAAACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NYMetropolitans
07-05-2012, 09:21 PM
that is whats funny

Yea? We'll see who's laughing come October.

Funny thing is, Knicks get criticized either way...for matching it or letting Lin walk...the Knicks can never win in the court of public opinion (which I care very little about anyways). Signing Kidd was the right thing to do, and signing Lin will be the right thing to do if they do it.

More-Than-Most
07-05-2012, 09:23 PM
Yea? We'll see who's laughing come October.

Um why? Why does October matter? We will see whos laughing come playoff time would have been the better saying :shrug:

Max.This
07-05-2012, 09:23 PM
The only reason he gets this much hate is because he is a Knick.
On the contrary, the only reason he gets this much love is because he's a Knick and i'll admit to that.

That being said, you people are crazy trying to defend that Dragic is some hero that deserves a 4 year 34 million contract, and that Lin getting 19 over 3, and 30 over 4 is ABSOLUTELY CRAZY. Get over it. This deal works out just fine for the Knicks and Knicks fans. He's 23 years old, and he certainly has time to improve.

Both deals are fine, both PG's have potential. We'll see what the future holds, but the fact is that this ended up working out better than the Knicks expected it to.

This. Honestly, thats exactly what goes on in every thread involving the knicks.

waveycrockett
07-05-2012, 09:25 PM
Yea? We'll see who's laughing come October.

Funny thing is, Knicks get criticized either way...for matching it or letting Lin walk...the Knicks can never win in the court of public opinion (which I care very little about anyways). Signing Kidd was the right thing to do, and signing Lin will be the right thing to do if they do it.

Dont forget about the basketball one too

BigBlueCrew
07-05-2012, 09:25 PM
If you want to be fan of the Nets you can just ask, you dont have to put up this charade.

you were the one who watched the knicks dude and are in the knicks related thread, not vice versa

Max.This
07-05-2012, 09:26 PM
What is my excuse??? I am a sixer fan.... I know my team sucks and will be stuck in mediocrity forever...We continually take on dumb contract after dumb contract as well... We will likely offer our own point guard a huge contract and probably over pay as well... The rockets/Nets/Knicks are all ******** for offering lin this contract... I am not trying to hate against the knicks but am not sold on lin...Could I be wrong sure... But so could you. Nash was Ideal....Again Nash was the fix... Lin/Kidd do not make them better...They are still like the sixers a back end playoff team.

wrong. They are not ******** because Lin drives in a lot more on a business level.

More-Than-Most
07-05-2012, 09:26 PM
Yea? We'll see who's laughing come October.

Funny thing is, Knicks get criticized either way...for matching it or letting Lin walk...the Knicks can never win in the court of public opinion (which I care very little about anyways). Signing Kidd was the right thing to do, and signing Lin will be the right thing to do if they do it.

No Getting Nash was the right thing to do... Signing Lin/Kidd leads to mediocrity...Again Band Aid/Broken leg... They could not get Nash so they settled for the lesser players. They lose fields/Smith and over pay for lin...Fantastic off season.... Though sighing fields for what he got would have been much worse. Nash was the key.

More-Than-Most
07-05-2012, 09:28 PM
wrong. They are not ******** because Lin drives in a lot more on a business level.

Agreed...If he continues to play well he will be a steal... I am not denying that... If he stinks he will lose that media luster that he gained...I think he will stink...Its not written in stone but 25 games does nothing for me. Could he be worth it? Yes

justinnum1
07-05-2012, 09:31 PM
Agreed...If he continues to play well he will be a steal... I am not denying that... If he stinks he will lose that media luster that he gained...I think he will stink...Its not written in stone but 25 games does nothing for me. Could he be worth it? Yes

this

waveycrockett
07-05-2012, 09:33 PM
you were the one who watched the knicks dude and are in the knicks related thread, not vice versa

I also watch the Orlando Magic and PHX Suns. You can put it back in your pants.

More-Than-Most
07-05-2012, 09:34 PM
If your Organization did not feel the same way why go out and try for Nash???? He was their first choice and rightfully so...He made your team better...Lin keeps you in mediocrity.

KnickaBocka.44
07-05-2012, 09:36 PM
The only reason he gets this much hate is because he is a Knick.
On the contrary, the only reason he gets this much love is because he's a Knick and i'll admit to that.

That being said, you people are crazy trying to defend that Dragic is some hero that deserves a 4 year 34 million contract, and that Lin getting 19 over 3, and 30 over 4 is ABSOLUTELY CRAZY. Get over it. This deal works out just fine for the Knicks and Knicks fans. He's 23 years old, and he certainly has time to improve.

Both deals are fine, both PG's have potential. We'll see what the future holds, but the fact is that this ended up working out better than the Knicks expected it to.

:clap: Hit the nail on the head

Max.This
07-05-2012, 09:36 PM
Agreed...If he continues to play well he will be a steal... I am not denying that... If he stinks he will lose that media luster that he gained...I think he will stink...Its not written in stone but 25 games does nothing for me. Could he be worth it? Yes

Perhaps, but it won't be known until mid-season. For now, it would be stupid for the knicks to not match considering how much he could potentially drive in.

KnickaBocka.44
07-05-2012, 09:39 PM
If your Organization did not feel the same way why go out and try for Nash???? He was their first choice and rightfully so...He made your team better...Lin keeps you in mediocrity.

False. The Knicks had more injuries and turmoil than any team during the shortened season, not to mention that Amare and Melo still havent had a training camp together and the roster was in flux all year.


With the main pieces back and with time to practice together the Knicks will, without question, improve.

BigBlueCrew
07-05-2012, 09:41 PM
I also watch the Orlando Magic and PHX Suns. You can put it back in your pants.

If you say so :jumpy:

nate2usmc
07-05-2012, 09:43 PM
What is my excuse??? I am a sixer fan.... I know my team sucks and will be stuck in mediocrity forever...We continually take on dumb contract after dumb contract as well... We will likely offer our own point guard a huge contract and probably over pay as well... The rockets/Nets/Knicks are all ******** for offering lin this contract... I am not trying to hate against the knicks but am not sold on lin...Could I be wrong sure... But so could you. Nash was Ideal....Again Nash was the fix... Lin/Kidd do not make them better...They are still like the sixers a back end playoff team.

Great post man. I feel the same way and I'm a Knicks fan :sigh:

Avenged
07-05-2012, 09:46 PM
For $6.6M/year for 3 years guaranteed and a TEAM OPTION for year 4?

ARE YOU JOKING?

He walked away from $10M in guaranteed money to stay with the Knicks, and didn't even bother shopping himself to another team.

Good luck finding a player in a similar position that will do that...

Good luck putting all your faith in Lin is all I'm saying. No really, good luck. :p

xxplayerxx23
07-05-2012, 09:49 PM
Um why? Why does October matter? We will see whos laughing come playoff time would have been the better saying :shrug:

Eli is a top 5 qb Oops I didnt know you posted in the NBA forum just assumed my mistale :D

NYMetropolitans
07-05-2012, 09:54 PM
Um why? Why does October matter? We will see whos laughing come playoff time would have been the better saying :shrug:

I'm saying from the very beginning till the end Lin will prove a lot of people wrong...just like he was doing when he was playing game after game. Oh he won't do it now oh he won't do it now...he has one bad game vs. MIA (the NBA Champions, mind you) HE'S A BUST, HE'S GARBAGE! People are funny :laugh2:

TheNumber37
07-05-2012, 10:01 PM
Matching at 30 mil is not a bad deal because essentially their paying him cheap early as he is mentored by KIdd. Than he improves his game and gets a raise.

xabial
07-05-2012, 10:36 PM
PSD is just /Stupid...

$5M, and $5.2M years 1 and 2 is NOTHING. We all Know That. We've All seen what Players make that Much. Evan Turner makes more than that, and Lin's done more in the NBA so far than Evan Turner.

$9.3M in year-3 is where it gets a Tad Expensive. Yes, I understand It may an Overpayment, and the Risk Involved in Signing him due to the Limited Sample Size. But People Need to Understand Year 3 He is an EXPIRING CONTRACT. He can go back sleeping on Landry Fields Coach and he'll still be a Valuable Expiring to any Other Team, ESPECIALLY given Year-4 is UNGUARANTEED. (Team Option).

Eric Dampier sucks ****, But His Unguaranteed Mega-Contract Netted the Mavericks Tyson Chandler. Worst Case Scenario Lins $9.3M Expiring Contract In Year-3 Could Net the Knicks A Contract any other Team wants to Dump, that could be useful Going Forward.


Knicks would be stupid NOT to match. Stop bashing the Knicks because its the "cool" thing to do. :puke:

xabial
07-05-2012, 10:44 PM
on some real my nicca why you ride the knicks like a rodeo show

Live in NY Almost my whole Life. Fan through the Good and Bad Years. Don't like the disrespect, from people who don't understand.

metsfanssince05
07-05-2012, 10:52 PM
Great deal. When JLin makes the 9m, Melo, Amar'e and Chandlers contract will be up. Match this glen!

waveycrockett
07-05-2012, 10:53 PM
Great deal. When JLin makes the 9m, Melo, Amar'e and Chandlers contract will be up. Match this glen!

Sorry but thats not how it's going to happen.

jimm120
07-05-2012, 10:55 PM
Matching at 30 mil is not a bad deal because essentially their paying him cheap early as he is mentored by KIdd. Than he improves his game and gets a raise.

Knicks wanted LESS than the 4 years/$25 million they could offer. But what they DIDN'T want was a 4 years/$40 million offer.


overpaying by $5 million isn't gonna kill them. Paying $35 or $40 million, yeah, that woulda killed them.

jimm120
07-05-2012, 10:57 PM
PSD is just /Stupid...

$5M, and $5.2M years 1 and 2 is NOTHING. We all Know That. We've All seen what Players make that Much. Evan Turner makes more than that, and Lin's done more in the NBA so far than Evan Turner.

$9.3M in year-3 is where it gets a Tad Expensive. Yes, I understand It may an Overpayment, and the Risk Involved in Signing him due to the Limited Sample Size. But People Need to Understand Year 3 He is an EXPIRING CONTRACT. He can go back sleeping on Landry Fields Coach and he'll still be a Valuable Expiring to any Other Team, ESPECIALLY given Year-4 is UNGUARANTEED. (Team Option).

Eric Dampier sucks ****, But His Unguaranteed Mega-Contract Netted the Mavericks Tyson Chandler. Worst Case Scenario Lins $9.3M Expiring Contract In Year-3 Could Net the Knicks A Contract any other Team wants to Dump, that could be useful Going Forward.


Knicks would be stupid NOT to match. Stop bashing the Knicks because its the "cool" thing to do. :puke:

That's another thing. In year 3 is where it gets "expensive" at 9.3...but if you look at it, you have 2 years to evaluate his talent and then trade him in a deal.

metsfanssince05
07-05-2012, 11:00 PM
Sorry but thats not how it's going to happen.Explanation please?

popo85
07-05-2012, 11:14 PM
Hope NYK matches, playing along with J.Kidd he will learn to control his mistakes and pick up the smarts of Kidd's game. Also a full year with Melo, Amare and Tyson i think the Knicks will be solid.

Losoway
07-05-2012, 11:23 PM
damn my knicks having the worst off season next to the mavs

:(

Chronz
07-05-2012, 11:36 PM
you guys realize that the amount of money the Knicks were paying during most of the 2000's...why do you think this effects them in anyway? in yr 3 Melo, Amare, Chandler will be expiring....the backload doesn't begin until yr 3...the Knicks will have to deal with the luxury tax for one yr...if you are over the cap what does it matter if you're over by 10 mil or 20 mil if your owner is willing to pay the luxury tax...you guys are silly...the Knicks are not one of the teams that are scared off by the luxury tax..

The Knicks can match, they have buttloads of money but it does matters how far over the tax you are, it gets harsher as you go up and how long it lasts.

xabial
07-05-2012, 11:42 PM
That's another thing. In year 3 is where it gets "expensive" at 9.3...but if you look at it, you have 2 years to evaluate his talent and then trade him in a deal.

Dude, Don't even bother. People will never understand. Next Page of this thread My Post will be forgotten, and Everyone Will be Bashing the Knicks For re-signing Lin Like a Broken Record. So far, no one has responded to my post, besides one Troll who Had His account deleted.

smood999
07-05-2012, 11:50 PM
The Knicks can match, they have buttloads of money but it does matters how far over the tax you are, it gets harsher as you go up and how long it lasts.

it's only one yr is my main point for a team that's use to paying it..

Chronz
07-06-2012, 12:44 AM
it's only one yr is my main point for a team that's use to paying it..

Yes, Im only saying how much over the tax you are does matter. The Knicks are one of the teams best able to take the hit, I agree on that, but that 1 year is going to be massive. They are goin to be at like 75M with only 6 players on contract without mentioning the rooks they will likely add. And unless your saying they dont look to make additional upgrades and just sign players at the min, thats a huge payroll. Prolly 80M by that point. Which could come out to 95M in total with all the tax hits. I dont know the math tho.