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310Casper
07-05-2012, 04:39 PM
@ESPNSteinLine: sources say Jason Kidd has decided to leave Mavs and join Knicks on a multiyear deal


Couldn't land Nash, settling with Kidd and keeping shump.

Six-8-TheWizard
07-05-2012, 04:40 PM
Hes a good fit there

zB_#85
07-05-2012, 04:42 PM
...this just in, nevermind Kidd will sign with Mavs and was just having a good time playing with New York's emotions. He spoke with Nash on he phone this morning and it sounded fun so he wanted to try :laugh:

#sikeknicks
#godhatestheknicks

NYKnickFanatic
07-05-2012, 04:42 PM
Im happy with it. He isnt elite anymore but can provide some more leadership and help out Lin if we re sign him.

jmoney85
07-05-2012, 04:44 PM
perfect player for the knicks... fits them better than nash imo

justjames
07-05-2012, 04:44 PM
Lol Mavs

Angelus™
07-05-2012, 04:45 PM
I think he can fit in well there. He can certainly still be very serviceable

KniCks4LiFe
07-05-2012, 04:45 PM
Lin's mentor.

Im_in_Mia_bish
07-05-2012, 04:46 PM
check out Marc Steins tweet. dunno how to quote it. so heres the link.

http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/8133070/source-jason-kidd-agrees-deal-new-york-knicks

Hustla23
07-05-2012, 04:46 PM
I'm very happy with this. We got to keep Shump and still got a decent point guard.

dtmagnet
07-05-2012, 04:47 PM
If Kidd can't get all those egos in New York in check I don't think anyone can.

LongIslandIcedZ
07-05-2012, 04:47 PM
Obviously Nash is a better player, but this is a solid move and should be able to teach Lin a thing or two.

LongIslandIcedZ
07-05-2012, 04:48 PM
Obviously Nash is a better player, but this is a solid move and should be able to teach Lin a thing or two.

Cano4prez
07-05-2012, 04:49 PM
Lol Mavs :laugh2:

BALKIS2K12
07-05-2012, 04:49 PM
hes a great teacher taught jj alot. he'll be a great nba coach soon too.

fadedmario
07-05-2012, 04:49 PM
Isn't Kidd 45 years old?

rangersfan
07-05-2012, 04:50 PM
Poor Dirk. He's one of the nicest players in the league. Maybe it's because of Cuban who's a dick.

BALKIS2K12
07-05-2012, 04:51 PM
cuban is a lil ***** hes all about being greedy now & saving all his money for himself fck the the franchise lol.

LakersSaintsLSU
07-05-2012, 04:51 PM
Lmao @THE BIG "VETO" mavs :facepalm:

lvlheaded
07-05-2012, 04:52 PM
I wanted Nash but Kidd was my second choice. If we can keep Lin and JR now and sign Marcus Camby, I'll be siked.

daboywonder2002
07-05-2012, 04:52 PM
wow dallas is taking all sorts of L's.

aztr0
07-05-2012, 04:53 PM
Nice. Kidd could still play, not as many minutes, but still better than nothing.

mjm07
07-05-2012, 04:53 PM
Good move by the Knicks. Solid PG tandem.

rangersfan
07-05-2012, 04:53 PM
Dirk: "Herrgott nochmal!"

Jroz
07-05-2012, 04:55 PM
Can we all say now that the Knicks havent had the worst offseason so far?..I feel for the Mavs damn....maybe they'll get CP3 and Howard next year now

marj987
07-05-2012, 04:55 PM
He just hoed the Mavs big time.

rohanb333
07-05-2012, 04:55 PM
http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/8133070/source-jason-kidd-agrees-deal-new-york-knicks

Knicks will get Jason Kidd. I think this is much better for the Knicks. They will not loose Shumpert, and Kidd might not have the offensive capabilities Nash has but is almost as good of a passer, a better rebounder, and defender. The Knicks got lucky Nash went to the Lakers and got Kidd instead. Kidd for nothing is better than Nash for Shumpert. Agreed?

nate2usmc
07-05-2012, 04:55 PM
...this just in, nevermind Kidd will sign with Mavs and was just having a good time playing with New York's emotions. He spoke with Nash on he phone this morning and it sounded fun so he wanted to try :laugh:

#sikeknicks
#godhatestheknicks

Wouldn't be surprised :o

I'm starting to believe that #godhatestheknicks :sigh:

SportsFanatic10
07-05-2012, 04:55 PM
dirk's probably feeling very alone right now. for the knicks its a good deal i'd say, kidd can mentor lin if he resigns there and hes a great vet presence for the team.

Marshallp22
07-05-2012, 04:56 PM
Dam did the Mavs miss out on every FA they had on there list lol? I keep reading about Dwight possibly going there but what do they have to offer Orlando?

Iron24th
07-05-2012, 04:56 PM
Very good signing for the knicks , youth is overrated, Kidd and Nash are still playing at a very high level.

Plus the leadership factor.

Marques24kobe
07-05-2012, 04:57 PM
Poor mavs. No one wants to sign with them.

netsgiantsyanks
07-05-2012, 04:57 PM
cuban must feel ****** right now.

ThunderousDemon
07-05-2012, 04:57 PM
lol, Mark Cuban gambled and lost badly.

nate2usmc
07-05-2012, 04:58 PM
I wanted Nash but Kidd was my second choice. If we can keep Lin and JR now and sign Marcus Camby, I'll be siked.

YES. Somehow Knicks will end up with Felton, Courtney Lee and the legendary Eddy Curry. Watch :facepalm:

KB-Pau-DH2012
07-05-2012, 04:59 PM
This is just flat out crazy. I was sure he was going to re-sign with them.

YoungOne
07-05-2012, 04:59 PM
Obviously Nash is a better player, but this is a solid move and should be able to teach Lin a thing or two.

you mean felton right?

BigBlueCrew
07-05-2012, 05:00 PM
oh man....I hate twitter!

J4KOP99
07-05-2012, 05:00 PM
I thought he already re-signed with the Mavs earlier today haha?

ThunderousDemon
07-05-2012, 05:00 PM
Mark Cuban gambled and lost.

waveycrockett
07-05-2012, 05:01 PM
Its looking more and more like the right move is to trade Dirk

Vinylman
07-05-2012, 05:01 PM
Bibby
Baron
kidd

the knicks... where old PG's go to die

zB_#85
07-05-2012, 05:01 PM
Wouldn't be surprised :o

I'm starting to believe that #godhatestheknicks :sigh:

honestly this is probably better for them. my true opinion is that Nash would have created friction between Stat and Melo. Stat would have benefited more from the addition of Nash due to his familiarity with him, oh and that little fact the he's not a complete ball stopper like Melo. Melo probably would have had a tougher time finding his role if Nash came to NY I think.

Edit: Also, don't get me wrong this doesn't mean I like Stat better than Melo. Not huge on Melo but I'd take him any day over Amare.

greg_ory_2005
07-05-2012, 05:03 PM
Good move. They need a PG.

DoMeFavors
07-05-2012, 05:03 PM
Damn mavs WTF hAppend to u

SportsAndrew25
07-05-2012, 05:04 PM
This is a big signing for the Knicks. Lin and Shumpert will now have a mentor which will help make them better players.

airforceones25
07-05-2012, 05:05 PM
Watch Mark Cuban offer Lin a big contract now.. Knicks fans will cringe. Lol

ll_eric_ll
07-05-2012, 05:05 PM
I'm very confused with all these changes... But this move, as a Mavs fan, is actually good news.

Cubes, IDK what your doin bro,,.. But I hope you have an Ace up your sleeve :pity:

3ddiiee
07-05-2012, 05:05 PM
Didn't see this coming

D-Block21-Chito
07-05-2012, 05:05 PM
I'd be more focused on Shumpert than lin.... Shumpert is a great defender I like him way better than Lin

agureghian
07-05-2012, 05:05 PM
3m per year is a bargain

BKLYNpigeon
07-05-2012, 05:06 PM
Obviously Nash is a better player, but this is a solid move and should be able to teach Lin a thing or two.

if you're paying Lin 30-40 million, you shouldnt need to teach him anything.

Jint.
07-05-2012, 05:06 PM
Watch Mark Cuban offer Lin a big contract now.. Knicks fans will cringe. Lol

this

airforceones25
07-05-2012, 05:07 PM
People are putting way to much hope into Shumpert. That is horrible knee injury. Shaun Livingston's career says hi.

KnickNyKnick
07-05-2012, 05:08 PM
so when do we start seeing the porn postings here again? like the vomiting girl?

StarvingKnick22
07-05-2012, 05:09 PM
...this just in, nevermind Kidd will sign with Mavs and was just having a good time playing with New York's emotions. He spoke with Nash on he phone this morning and it sounded fun so he wanted to try :laugh:

#sikeknicks
#godhatestheknicks

lol twas a troll. But in all seriousness I hope we actually have Kidd great leader

The goods
07-05-2012, 05:09 PM
wow dallas is taking all sorts of L's.

That's what I was thinking.

AIMelo=KillaDUO
07-05-2012, 05:10 PM
People are putting way to much hope into Shumpert. That is horrible knee injury. Shaun Livingston's career says hi.

Lol tell Chicago Bull's that about DRose. GTFOH. Shumps injury is no where close to what Shaun Livingston did.

D2theJ
07-05-2012, 05:10 PM
Well guess I can hate Kidd now.

Hoopin&Swoopin
07-05-2012, 05:10 PM
if you're paying Lin 30-40 million, you shouldnt need to teach him anything.

Interesting logic.

oak2455
07-05-2012, 05:10 PM
Isn't Kidd 45 years old?

Is that old?:speechless:

Beltrans Mole
07-05-2012, 05:11 PM
People are putting way to much hope into Shumpert. That is horrible knee injury. Shaun Livingston's career says hi.

Shaun Livingston? Dude was a BUM. Shumpert is gonna be a very nice player in this league.

spreadeagle
07-05-2012, 05:11 PM
I like it, they have enough scorer's they just need a sweet passer aka Kidd

RC3
07-05-2012, 05:11 PM
Watch Mark Cuban offer Lin a big contract now.. Knicks fans will cringe. Lol
Oh no the poison pill :speechless:

ball4reel
07-05-2012, 05:12 PM
Watch Mark Cuban offer Lin a big contract now.. Knicks fans will cringe. Lol


i was thinking the same thing

torocan
07-05-2012, 05:12 PM
Very good move for the Knicks.

Will definitely help in terms of Lin's development, relief minutes, and his commitment to the team considering Jason Kidd was his idol growing up.

This might be enough for him to stop shopping and sign a deal.

dtmagnet
07-05-2012, 05:13 PM
People are putting way to much hope into Shumpert. That is horrible knee injury. Shaun Livingston's career says hi.

Livingston's leg literally snapped sideways at the knee, not the same.

97NYer
07-05-2012, 05:13 PM
Isola is saying they'll either match Lin or sign Felton. Lin/Kidd or Felton/Kidd is fine next to Shump, Melo, STAT and Chandler.

Ryan328
07-05-2012, 05:14 PM
Maybe Dallas explores dealing Dirk? Which team out there would have the best pieces to send Dallas? I'm assuming Cuban would deal Dirk at least to a contender?

Jint.
07-05-2012, 05:14 PM
word

KnicksR4Real
07-05-2012, 05:14 PM
Great mentor, great signing.

ball4reel
07-05-2012, 05:14 PM
the funniest thing about all this is We got a solid pg to mentor Lin, Lakers got Nash, and The Raptors got Fields for 20 mill....

Punk
07-05-2012, 05:14 PM
Makes us even better defensively. I'm a little not okay with 3 years considering his age but I like the signing.

Knicks still have 3 million + more assets for a S&T trade.

Felton next?

keetyweedy
07-05-2012, 05:15 PM
I'm very confused with all these changes... But this move, as a Mavs fan, is actually good news.

Cubes, IDK what your doin bro,,.. But I hope you have an Ace up your sleeve :pity:


its like you read my mind....but i think mark and donnie's basketball IQ is to high to not have something up there sleeves, but they need to make it happen quicker Dirk only has a good 2 yrs left in the tank

Cromedome
07-05-2012, 05:16 PM
He better not be pulling my chain, again.

J4KOP99
07-05-2012, 05:16 PM
Good move for the Knicks. I think they're better off than trading for Nash.

Nyc4You
07-05-2012, 05:17 PM
People are putting way to much hope into Shumpert. That is horrible knee injury. Shaun Livingston's career says hi.

http://www.myspace.com/video/hecox-035-75/shaun-livingston-injury/10648951

Really?

waveycrockett
07-05-2012, 05:17 PM
the funniest thing about all this is We got a solid pg to mentor Lin, Lakers got Nash, and The Raptors got Fields for 20 mill....

and Kyle Lowry....

Punk
07-05-2012, 05:21 PM
Ric Bucher ‏@RicBucher
JKidd, the Samaritan: chose NYK "because I think I can help." Also feels NYK has more "pieces." Ouchy for champs, 1 year removed

Damn, Dallas.

ball4reel
07-05-2012, 05:21 PM
and Kyle Lowry....


Did Lowry have anything to do with what Toronto did to the Knicks or are you just tollllllin again??? :confused:

310Casper
07-05-2012, 05:23 PM
Its looking more and more like the right move is to trade Dirk

I wouldnt be surprised actually

ball4reel
07-05-2012, 05:23 PM
http://www.myspace.com/video/hecox-035-75/shaun-livingston-injury/10648951

Really?

I cant even Watch that again ouchh!!!!

DoMeFavors
07-05-2012, 05:23 PM
Mavs fans were talking trash now look at their team...dirk should retire

Jint.
07-05-2012, 05:24 PM
http://www.myspace.com/video/hecox-035-75/shaun-livingston-injury/10648951

Really?

:puke::faint:

Punk
07-05-2012, 05:24 PM
The irony of this signing: Kidd is the one who injured Lin's knee.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQIOJNH9-aE

oak2455
07-05-2012, 05:25 PM
Mavs fans were talking trash now look at their team...dirk should retire

thats a dumb statement:facepalm:

Cromedome
07-05-2012, 05:26 PM
I definitely agree. Knicks don't lose Shumpert and we get the same Steve Nash type player...but bigger.

calibird707
07-05-2012, 05:26 PM
Damn bro u gonna get banned for slighting asians

Jays Claw
07-05-2012, 05:28 PM
I'm surprised they offered him a multi-year deal considering Kidd has regressed drastically over the years. I thought if anything the Knicks would be offering him 1 maybe 2 years max.

waveycrockett
07-05-2012, 05:28 PM
Did Lowry have anything to do with what Toronto did to the Knicks or are you just tollllllin again??? :confused:

They got the best player out of the bunch. Just stating facts

DoMeFavors
07-05-2012, 05:29 PM
thats a dumb statement:facepalm:

Why? They need to start over and still have Haywood and Carter

kobebabe
07-05-2012, 05:31 PM
Nice solid pick up. Feel Bad for the Mavs

waveycrockett
07-05-2012, 05:31 PM
thats a dumb statement:facepalm:

He should retire or demand a trade. Why end his career on a team thats going to be horrible?

bigmark716
07-05-2012, 05:31 PM
I'm happy we got kid for the price the knicks got it right finally

Hoopin&Swoopin
07-05-2012, 05:32 PM
They got the best player out of the bunch. Just stating facts

His point was that the fields signing had nothing to do with the Lowry signing and I'm pretty sure that you realize that.

D2theJ
07-05-2012, 05:32 PM
Still don't think he's worth 3 years. As much as I love Kidd and wanted him to come back to the Nets I thought that he was going to come for the vet's minimum, he's 39 and his production has dropped dramatically. He is no more than a bench player who will give you 15 minutes and good leadership at this point, kinda like a better Fisher.

yanksrock
07-05-2012, 05:33 PM
Wooooooohoooooooo is all I have to say.

I am Smart
07-05-2012, 05:34 PM
Good consolation prize.

BigBlueCrew
07-05-2012, 05:34 PM
They got the best player out of the bunch. Just stating facts

You always say "Just stating facts" "Just stating facts" "Just stating facts"

Why so insecure?

BigBongTheory
07-05-2012, 05:37 PM
Knicks fans. lol

Slimsim
07-05-2012, 05:38 PM
Dont like kidd but whatever

stipe1280
07-05-2012, 05:39 PM
Donnie Nelson better get fired.

Mr Costanza
07-05-2012, 05:39 PM
You always say "Just stating facts" "Just stating facts" "Just stating facts"

Why so insecure?

Don't bother, if the Knicks cured cancer, he'd ask "what about heart attacks?"

ewmania
07-05-2012, 05:39 PM
lol kidd is one of the best passers in NBA history... how is he "almost" as good as a passer as nash... he just doesnt hold the ball as much as nash... but kidd is the 3rd greatest passer of all time

Chi StateOfMind
07-05-2012, 05:40 PM
Whats goin on with Lin?

JerseysFinest
07-05-2012, 05:42 PM
Knicks vs. Nets just got a whole lot more interesting.

Captain Moroni
07-05-2012, 05:42 PM
jason kidd is just as good of a passer...im ecstatic to have my favorite player of all time playing for the knicks...hes a top 3 pure point guard of all time, i rank him first, others might rank him 2nd or 3rd but none the less a great mentor for the gook fluke jeremy lin

Are you serious with the racial slur?

waveycrockett
07-05-2012, 05:43 PM
You always say "Just stating facts" "Just stating facts" "Just stating facts"

Why so insecure?

Insecure? I think you need to brush up on your vocab bud. Or insults.

waveycrockett
07-05-2012, 05:43 PM
His point was that the fields signing had nothing to do with the Lowry signing and I'm pretty sure that you realize that.

Just saying to knock what the raps have done this summer is dumb.

Mr Costanza
07-05-2012, 05:44 PM
thats a dumb statement:facepalm:

I'm actually gonna go with favors on this one. It's amazing how the Mavs with their shark tank owner have let so much go the past two offseasons.

Unless they feel they can get CP3/D12 next year I don't get it.

NYK4L
07-05-2012, 05:44 PM
Don't bother, if the Knicks cured cancer, he'd ask "what about heart attacks?"

:laugh::laugh:

ryang
07-05-2012, 05:44 PM
No.. This is not better... passing wise i guess over the years its comparable to nash but today nash>>>>kidd... just sayin

BigBlueCrew
07-05-2012, 05:44 PM
Insecure? I think you need to brush up on your vocab bud. Or insults.

It was just a question you loser

was that a good enough insult for you? ;)

Hoopin&Swoopin
07-05-2012, 05:45 PM
Insecure? I think you need to brush up on your vocab bud. Or insults.

Can we just end all of this right now. The nets and knicks are both relevant which is great for NY. Let's quit all of the hate.

scutch11
07-05-2012, 05:45 PM
Insecure? I think you need to brush up on your vocab bud. Or insults.

Your trolling is really getting out of hand. GTFO already

Young2Kinsler
07-05-2012, 05:46 PM
This is great news for the Mavericks. Kidd was terrible last season and will only get worse. Tying up money long term in Jason Kidd is a BAD investment.

xabial
07-05-2012, 05:46 PM
Isn't Kidd 45 years old?

Before Uneducated fans like yourself try to Troll, you might need to understand regardless of age Kidd is a Major Asset to Most NBA Teams.

At 39, Minutes aren't important to Kidd, and Kidd doesn't need Playing Time. Kidd Provides Something Invaluable to Most NBA rosters. Veteran Leadership (This quality is Priceless), Defense (Even at 39 Kidd is a respected Defender), He can Hit the open three (Not Important, But a Great Quality nontheless), and lastly He Can Mentor any Team's Young PG like Jeremy Lin. (This quality is also Priceless)

He can contribute to Most NBA teams, and I have the utmost Respect for Kidd, and you should too. May not be the distributor Nash Is, May not be the Player he once was, but He brings many other things to the table, Regardless of His Age, and His averages of 6.2Ppg 5.5Ast, 4.1 Rbs in 28.7 Minutes don't tell the whole story.

Solidifying the PG position was a major Need For NY, and To Be Honest I prefer Jason Kidd over Someone like Raymond Felton, Even though Felton's 28 He was criticized for being fat, and out of shape by His last Coach. (See if Felton Continues to Play until Age 39 Lol.. :rolleyes: )

IIISSKiLL
07-05-2012, 05:46 PM
lol, Mark Cuban gambled and lost badly.
:clap::clap:
maybe next time(if there ever is a next time for dallas) he won't run around like an idiot doing commericals about how he won the championship

nycsports2
07-05-2012, 05:48 PM
great backup point.. now we need lin if not lin yes ill take felton but i realy feel lin puts us over the top and ready to contend. i think hell be a very very good pg

iam brett favre
07-05-2012, 05:55 PM
Jason Kidd isn't even that good anymore...every Knick fan wanted Nash.

drobe86
07-05-2012, 05:58 PM
This is great news for the Mavericks. Kidd was terrible last season and will only get worse. Tying up money long term in Jason Kidd is a BAD investment.


Finally an NBA fan that gets it. Kidd was done 2 years ago. Can you imagine him at 42?

Young2Kinsler
07-05-2012, 05:59 PM
I mean Kidd can be a decent asset to a team, don't get me wrong, but on a 3 year deal? Not even CLOSE to worth it.

waveycrockett
07-05-2012, 06:01 PM
Your trolling is really getting out of hand. GTFO already

last I checked this site wasn't called scutch11.com. Fall back

drobe86
07-05-2012, 06:01 PM
Before Uneducated fans like yourself try to Troll, you might need to understand regardless of age Kidd is a Major Asset to Most NBA Teams.

At 39, Minutes aren't important to Kidd, and Kidd doesn't need Playing Time. Kidd Provides Something Invaluable to Most NBA rosters. Veteran Leadership (This quality is Priceless), Defense (Even at 39 Kidd is a respected Defender), He can Hit the open three (Not Important, But a Great Quality nontheless), and lastly He Can Mentor any Team's Young PG like Jeremy Lin. (This quality is also Priceless)

He can contribute to Most NBA teams, and I have the utmost Respect for Kidd, and you should too. May not be the distributor Nash Is, May not be the Player he once was, but He brings many other things to the table, Regardless of His Age, and His averages of 6.2Ppg 5.5Ast, 4.1 Rbs in 28.7 Minutes don't tell the whole story.

Solidifying the PG position was a major Need For NY, and To Be Honest I prefer Jason Kidd over Someone like Raymond Felton, Even though Felton's 28 He was criticized for being fat, and out of shape by His last Coach. (See if Felton Continues to Play until Age 39 Lol.. :rolleyes: )


That was a very touching piece and all, but seriously man Kidd can't play anymore. I have the utmost respect for Kidd as well and he's a Hall of Fame pg. That being said he can't run anymore, he never really could score, and he's not rebounding or passing at the rate he used too. Reality is, if his name wasn't Jason Kidd he'd have been out of the league 4-5 years ago. At this point, you're only taking minutes away from Lin and that's never good (ex. Kidd taking minutes away from the Mavs young guards Beaubois, and Jones). Good luck to you guys, but I think you're going to be disappointed when the games actually start bro.

RLundi
07-05-2012, 06:01 PM
Bad deal for the Knicks IMO. $3M doesn't seem like a lot of money, but for a back-up of Kidd's caliber, it's a mistake. He regressed to astronomical levels last season and he's only gonna get worse with age.

I wouldn't be opposed if it was for the minimum.

GrumpyOldMan
07-05-2012, 06:02 PM
as long as you dont expect more than 20-25 minutes per game, he will be a good pick up. He is smart, plays both ends and can be a great mentor for Lin. Just don't expect a star.

Kinkotheclown
07-05-2012, 06:03 PM
Love it! We keep shump and harrelsson and can still sign Lin.
Not to mention the comfort zone of Kidd and Chandler.
Great sign.

RLundi
07-05-2012, 06:04 PM
Bad deal.

knicksfan42
07-05-2012, 06:06 PM
http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/8133070/source-jason-kidd-agrees-deal-new-york-knicks

Knicks will get Jason Kidd. I think this is much better for the Knicks. They will not loose Shumpert, and Kidd might not have the offensive capabilities Nash has but is almost as good of a passer, a better rebounder, and defender. The Knicks got lucky Nash went to the Lakers and got Kidd instead. Kidd for nothing is better than Nash for Shumpert. Agreed?

No it isn't better than getting Nash for Shump. Shumpert is a one dimensional role player whose max potential is becoming 1/20th as good as Nash is right now. That said Kidd is a good consolation prize. He is imo the best available back up point right now. He brings leadership, good passing, solid d (yes even at this age), and good rebounding. Also a great mentor for Lin who I heard used to look up to him growing up.

TheNumber37
07-05-2012, 06:10 PM
This is going to be very good for the Knicks. They keep Shumpert and gain an experienced PG who is a better shooter, passer, defender and rebounder than Lin. Hopefully Lin Resigns and Kidd can mentor both Lin and Shumpert, and maybe some of that passing he does rubs off on Melo.

More-Than-Most
07-05-2012, 06:10 PM
Just flat out terrible... I said it from the beginning they should stay away from him...do people realize how bad he was last year?

kblo247
07-05-2012, 06:12 PM
Bad deal for the Knicks IMO. $3M doesn't seem like a lot of money, but for a back-up of Kidd's caliber, it's a mistake. He regressed to astronomical levels last season and he's only gonna get worse with age.

I wouldn't be opposed if it was for the minimum.

Kidd is going to start at SG and get some backup PG mins IMO. He has to since Shump is out and you ne'pver want JR starting. He can defend SG's too and play next to Lin.

MintBerryCrunch
07-05-2012, 06:13 PM
Jason Kidd is not good anymore ... Haha

kblo247
07-05-2012, 06:14 PM
Just flat out terrible... I said it from the beginning they should stay away from him...do people realize how bad he was last year?

You relaize how overblown that is?

I mean he regressed but I think the off season lay off being so long hurt him more so than anything. He did improve month to month

Fg% - 22.6 to 36.5 to 38.5 to 47.2
Threes - 16.3 to 33.3 to 40.5 to 48.3
Rebs - 4.8 to 4.2 to 3.5 to 4.7
Asts - 5.5 to 6 to 4.9 to 7.3

More-Than-Most
07-05-2012, 06:14 PM
This is great news for the Mavericks. Kidd was terrible last season and will only get worse. Tying up money long term in Jason Kidd is a BAD investment.

Yup...Getting Nash was the best thing knicks could have done...Signing kidd for this long and overpaying lin are the 2 things I said will help kill the knicks... :pity:

Bruno
07-05-2012, 06:15 PM
NYK getting Kidd at one third the price of steve nash? interesting.

noodle
07-05-2012, 06:15 PM
Bad deal for the Knicks IMO. $3M doesn't seem like a lot of money, but for a back-up of Kidd's caliber, it's a mistake. He regressed to astronomical levels last season and he's only gonna get worse with age.

I wouldn't be opposed if it was for the minimum.

Says the guy, whose team just resigned jameer Nelson!

apocalypse15
07-05-2012, 06:15 PM
Poor Dirk. He's one of the nicest players in the league. Maybe it's because of Cuban who's a dick.

I was just thinking the same thing. A lot of players bolting out of town. Even newly aqquired Odom wanted out ASAP. Not to mention he's already gone.

More-Than-Most
07-05-2012, 06:16 PM
You relaize how overblown that is?

I mean he regressed but I think the off season lay off being so long hurt him more so than anything. He did improve month to month

Fg% - 22.6 to 36.5 to 38.5 to 47.2
Threes - 16.3 to 33.3 to 40.5 to 48.3
Rebs - 4.8 to 4.2 to 3.5 to 4.7
Asts - 5.5 to 6 to 4.9 to 7.3

No its not overblown at all...He looked flat out terrible and slow...And 3 years....REALLY?

kjoke
07-05-2012, 06:17 PM
NYK getting Kidd at one third the price of steve nash? interesting.

1/3 the player too. Kidd is nothing more than a pretty bad spot up shooter. Not even that good of a passer anymore. I loved the old Kidd, but he really looked slow this past season.

Nycbball08
07-05-2012, 06:18 PM
Some of you people are crazy, the guy had one bad season in his whole career and that makes him garbage...that's crazy.,good sign..

noodle
07-05-2012, 06:19 PM
No its not overblown at all...He looked flat out terrible and slow...And 3 years....REALLY?

He's going as a BACKUP!

AIMelo=KillaDUO
07-05-2012, 06:19 PM
Funny how everyones sayin it was good he was going to back up Deron Williams. Everyone singin a different tune now. The irony... :laugh2:

BigBlueCrew
07-05-2012, 06:21 PM
Funny how everyones sayin it was good he was going to back up Deron Williams. Everyone singin a different tune now. The irony... :laugh2:

Im not the least bit shocked at all.

More-Than-Most
07-05-2012, 06:21 PM
Funny how everyones sayin it was good he was going to back up Deron Williams. Everyone singin a different tune now. The irony... :laugh2:

Not me...I said when the knicks were reported to get Nash it was the best thing for the knicks and for Nash because of how bad Lin is and how he will bust...Then Nash signed with knicks and people were saying they will go after kidd and I laughed at that because of how bad he is....Now they sign him for 3 years? REALLY?

The same could be said about knicks fans when they were omg were gonna be the greatest team ever with Nash....Nash signs elsewhere and its omg we didnt want him anyway we want to keep shumpert :pity:

Nycbball08
07-05-2012, 06:23 PM
Funny how everyones sayin it was good he was going to back up Deron Williams. Everyone singin a different tune now. The irony... :laugh2:

Exactly..,bunch of Knick haters is all .. That's some funny stuff.

xabial
07-05-2012, 06:23 PM
That was a very touching piece and all, but seriously man Kidd can't play anymore. I have the utmost respect for Kidd as well and he's a Hall of Fame pg. That being said he can't run anymore, he never really could score, and he's not rebounding or passing at the rate he used too. Reality is, if his name wasn't Jason Kidd he'd have been out of the league 4-5 years ago. At this point, you're only taking minutes away from Lin and that's never good (ex. Kidd taking minutes away from the Mavs young guards Beaubois, and Jones). Good luck to you guys, but I think you're going to be disappointed when the games actually start bro.

Here's hoping Knicks Win, and Kidd proves me right (and you wrong) on the Court. :D

justinnum1
07-05-2012, 06:23 PM
The Knicks are back!

Gritz
07-05-2012, 06:24 PM
basically a spot up shooter at this point

torocan
07-05-2012, 06:24 PM
The Knicks are back!

Don't know if they're back, but they're definitely better than before FA.

Option 1 - Tony Douglas, Baron Davis, Mike Bibby
Option 2 - Jason Kidd

Seems pretty obvious to me...

Nycbball08
07-05-2012, 06:27 PM
The Knicks are back!

trooooooll...

More-Than-Most
07-05-2012, 06:28 PM
Don't know if they're back, but they're definitely better than before FA.

Option 1 - Tony Douglas, Baron Davis, Mike Bibby
Option 2 - Jason Kidd

Seems pretty obvious to me...

:facepalm:

MR.TRIPDUB
07-05-2012, 06:28 PM
The irony of this signing: Kidd is the one who injured Lin's knee.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQIOJNH9-aE

how about the kidd vs woodson bumping/tackling incident. he really embarrassed woodson that game. although thats the kind of smarts this knicks team need.

JOhnnyTHaJet
07-05-2012, 06:29 PM
IMO keeping Shump and getting Kidd is not far off from acquiring Nash. Knicks need defense and passing, they get both.

xabial
07-05-2012, 06:30 PM
Don't know if they're back, but they're definitely better than before FA.

Option 1 - Tony Douglas, Baron Davis, Mike Bibby
Option 2 - Jason Kidd

Seems pretty obvious to me...

This.

Mike Bibby- Poor Man's Eddie House. Maybe With Worse Defense. Just a Vet Min Guy, for Depth purposes, I HATE mike Bibby, especially when His 3's are off.

Toney Douglas: The Worst PG I have seen Play In my Life. Heck, Johnny Flynn is a Better PG (Not SG) Then this Bum. (Maybe Flynn's Worse Defensively, But Toney's PG Skills Are The Worst I've Seen EVER)

Baron Davis: He Was Alright, But He's Too injury Prone and His last Injury May have put his career In Jeopardy.

shep33
07-05-2012, 06:31 PM
I like this, but let's be real about something. Nash's offensive statistics are beyond superior to Kidd's over the past two years.

Jason Kidd in the past two years with a championship team and Dirk:

-7.9 ppg, 8.2 apg, and shot 36% from the field and 34% from 3
-6.2 ppg, 5.5 apg, 36% from the field and 35% from 3

Steve Nash... with Marcin Gortat as the primary offensive option:

-14.7 ppg, 11.4 apg, shot 49% from the field and 39.5% from 3
-12.5 ppg, 10.7 apg, 53% from the field and 39% from 3
-Nash never misses ft's either lol

It's not even close offensively.

drobe86
07-05-2012, 06:32 PM
Funny how everyones sayin it was good he was going to back up Deron Williams. Everyone singin a different tune now. The irony... :laugh2:


Oh yea tell me about it. Is it just me or is it Knicks fans that try to justify every trade or signing. If the Knicks signed Hasheem Thabeet they'd be talking about what a game changing Center they have, even though he's been terrible every year since he came into the league.

kblo247
07-05-2012, 06:32 PM
No its not overblown at all...He looked flat out terrible and slow...And 3 years....REALLY?

So we just ignoring that his horrible start lowered his stats, and that his shooting, boards, and assists I proved month to month?

We ignoring that the Knicks lost Fields and Kidd is batter defender than Melo, JR, Lin, and anyone on the roster besides zshump who is out all year most likely?

We ignoring that Kidd can teach Lin, start at SG, provide spacing and ball handling, give them rebounding, and leadership they lack?

I mean he isn't Nash, Deron, or Dragic but he has more game and professionalism than Felton. He has more balls than Sessions who doesn't try to defend. He is a safer bet than Chauncey.

More-Than-Most
07-05-2012, 06:33 PM
I am 5/11 and ok at basketball but nothing special.... If the knicks sign me do I become an all star???? Serious question

More-Than-Most
07-05-2012, 06:34 PM
IMO keeping Shump and getting Kidd is not far off from acquiring Nash. Knicks need defense and passing, they get both.

:laugh2:

phoenix_bladen
07-05-2012, 06:34 PM
No its not overblown at all...He looked flat out terrible and slow...And 3 years....REALLY?

that's fine

the key thing is they resign lin and kidd will be a backup AND mentor

the stuff he will teach lin would be key

and he's gonna come out and paly 15-20 mins so who cares

if he was starting then yes i would agree with u

the_color_finn
07-05-2012, 06:35 PM
trooooooll...

Delusional homer...:p

More-Than-Most
07-05-2012, 06:35 PM
1/3 the player too. Kidd is nothing more than a pretty bad spot up shooter. Not even that good of a passer anymore. I loved the old Kidd, but he really looked slow this past season.

:clap:

Mr Costanza
07-05-2012, 06:36 PM
On other teams you can argue having shumpert and Kidd is equal to getting Nash. For the Knicks it's not the case. They need a pg like Nash to run the show. At the end of the day, they are still lacking that.

More-Than-Most
07-05-2012, 06:37 PM
On other teams you can argue having shumpert and Kidd is equal or better than having Nash. For the Knicks it's not the case. They need a pg like Nash to run the show. At the end of the day, they are still lacking that.

No you cant even on other teams... Kidd is terrible

justinnum1
07-05-2012, 06:38 PM
Omg!!!!!

torocan
07-05-2012, 06:40 PM
Jason Kidd isn't even that good anymore...every Knick fan wanted Nash.

Personally I wanted Kidd. Cheaper, happy to be a back up, good Mentor for a player like Lin.

We needed a strong SG or backup C alot more than a new PG.

ThunderousDemon
07-05-2012, 06:41 PM
The Knicks are back baby!!! :dance:

Mr Costanza
07-05-2012, 06:41 PM
No you cant even on other teams... Kidd is terrible

I don't mean player to player. I mean in the scheme of things given years left for shumpert. Obv Nash is a much better player than those two. But the Knicks needed to go all in for the next few years and other teams don't need to do that.

Evolution23
07-05-2012, 06:42 PM
I see Heat fans are closely watching the Knicks every move. Scared much?

ThunderousDemon
07-05-2012, 06:44 PM
I see Heat fans are closely watching the Knicks every move. Scared much?

They're feeling the Heat. :dance2:

Mr Costanza
07-05-2012, 06:45 PM
I see Heat fans are closely watching the Knicks every move. Scared much?

I'm sure they are terrified...

More-Than-Most
07-05-2012, 06:45 PM
I see Heat fans are closely watching the Knicks every move. Scared much?

lol they just won the title and the knicks missed out on Nash and got kidd...Clearly they should just pack the season in because the knicks are way to good.

ATX
07-05-2012, 06:47 PM
lol they just won the title and the knicks missed out on Nash and got kidd...Clearly they should just pack the season in because the knicks are way to good.

lmao

justinnum1
07-05-2012, 06:47 PM
The Knicks are back baby!!! :dance:
So back

Mr Costanza
07-05-2012, 06:47 PM
lol they just won the title and the knicks missed out on Nash and got kidd...Clearly they should just pack the season in because the knicks are way to good.

Let's just bypass the entire season and give Kidd the Finals MVP now.

smood999
07-05-2012, 06:48 PM
He's just a backup...how many better backup pg's will there be this season?

ThunderousDemon
07-05-2012, 06:49 PM
So back

Backer than back!

KnIckFaN.2883
07-05-2012, 06:50 PM
Watch Mark Cuban offer Lin a big contract now.. Knicks fans will cringe. Lol

we can always offer a larger contract. Its not like dolan doesn't have money.

EastNYLos
07-05-2012, 06:52 PM
Good signing if we keep Lin..:p

ACanadian
07-05-2012, 06:54 PM
Good move by the Knicks, he can bring some more leadership at the Point Guard position

KnickNyKnick
07-05-2012, 06:54 PM
The Knicks are back!

the troll is back. why dont u post more porn pic, we all know it wsa you

post the vomit girl

justinnum1
07-05-2012, 06:54 PM
So back

Backer than back!
Back that *** up back

Weezy
07-05-2012, 06:55 PM
Lol yes!

The knicks are back!

Beltrans Mole
07-05-2012, 06:55 PM
Nash gets 3 yrs 27 mil...Kidd gets 3 yrs 9 mil...I'd say that's a pretty good bargain for a guy who will be a great veteran in the locker room....not to mention he'll attract people along with Lin.

JerseyPalahniuk
07-05-2012, 07:15 PM
Damn, my favorite player of all-time joins the Knicks. Bittersweet for me but all the luck to you Kidd. Hope HE does well haha. Congrats Knicks, you've gotten a player who plays to his strengths and hides his weaknesses. Won't make dumb plays and will probably help the locker room out in figuring out a good offensive system for Melo/Amare to work out.

meloman1592
07-05-2012, 07:23 PM
Nash gets 3 yrs 27 mil...Kidd gets 3 yrs 9 mil...I'd say that's a pretty good bargain for a guy who will be a great veteran in the locker room....not to mention he'll attract people along with Lin.

This is the way I look at it...he's not great anymore but it's a bargain compared to what Nash got.

IversonIsKrazy
07-05-2012, 07:24 PM
Surprised. Dallas & Houston still looking for their PG. Lin is the last one left unless Raps amnesty Jose. Wonder how this plays out. Mavs are def the losers of the off-season I'd say.

justinnum1
07-05-2012, 07:30 PM
nash is 10X the player that jkidd is.

Punk
07-05-2012, 07:34 PM
nash is 10X the player that jkidd is.

Um ok? We got a backup PG with leadership and defense and passing and still have enough assets to absorb an OJ Mayo and Camby. It's a good situation.

kjoke
07-05-2012, 07:34 PM
Holy ****, I thought this was a two year deal. :laugh:

Even worse.

justinnum1
07-05-2012, 07:35 PM
Um ok? We got a backup PG with leadership and defense and passing and still have enough assets to absorb an OJ Mayo and Camby. It's a good situation.

oh i agree, kidd will help. he better start over lin. lin should not be getting more than 10-15min a game.you guys are not getting mayo or camby tho

dtmagnet
07-05-2012, 07:51 PM
Um ok? We got a backup PG with leadership and defense and passing and still have enough assets to absorb an OJ Mayo and Camby. It's a good situation.

Say what? You're not getting Mayo lol.

KapnKnicks87
07-05-2012, 08:37 PM
no way we get mayo lol but Lin will be starting with Kidd playing 15 20 mins a game

HouRealCoach
07-05-2012, 08:47 PM
I like this, but let's be real about something. Nash's offensive statistics are beyond superior to Kidd's over the past two years.

Jason Kidd in the past two years with a championship team and Dirk:

-7.9 ppg, 8.2 apg, and shot 36% from the field and 34% from 3
-6.2 ppg, 5.5 apg, 36% from the field and 35% from 3

Steve Nash... with Marcin Gortat as the primary offensive option:

-14.7 ppg, 11.4 apg, shot 49% from the field and 39.5% from 3
-12.5 ppg, 10.7 apg, 53% from the field and 39% from 3
-Nash never misses ft's either lol

It's not even close offensively.

Wins? Rings? Playoff Appearances? Defense

ohreally
07-05-2012, 08:53 PM
that's fine

the key thing is they resign lin and kidd will be a backup AND mentor

the stuff he will teach lin would be key

and he's gonna come out and paly 15-20 mins so who cares

if he was starting then yes i would agree with u

Kidd has more basketball smarts than anyone else on the tam, including Chandler, so it can't be all bad. It isn't near getting Nash, but it isn't nearly as bad as signing Felton or Sessions would be, so I'm OK with it.

IF Lin comes back, he can mentor him, but that does not mean Lin would ever become Kidd, that's not his game, but he might learn some tricks, especially on the defensive end.

Shump has shown some D that's a whole lot reader than the "great" D Toney Douglas was supposed to have been playing his first year, or the phantom "good" D Melo is said to play, but it was a first year, and there was nothing from him that would really make you "know" "this guy's got game." and now with the injury--who knows? He was also often to usually a bonehead, so it's not like even his D didn't come with baggage.

The Knicks improved, a bit, whether it keeps them from signing somebody else this year or next that could have helped more, maybe we'll never know. And it is in no way as good as getting Nash. But Jorts shows some real promise too, so for depth, not that we really have anything solid, this way does have some upside.

But PLEASE, no Felton, no Sessions.

nate2usmc
07-05-2012, 09:55 PM
honestly this is probably better for them. my true opinion is that Nash would have created friction between Stat and Melo. Stat would have benefited more from the addition of Nash due to his familiarity with him, oh and that little fact the he's not a complete ball stopper like Melo. Melo probably would have had a tougher time finding his role if Nash came to NY I think.

Edit: Also, don't get me wrong this doesn't mean I like Stat better than Melo. Not huge on Melo but I'd take him any day over Amare.

Agreed. I hate on the Stat and Melo chemistry especially since they're overpaid lol. But I'll root for their success anytime.

MR.TRIPDUB
07-05-2012, 10:51 PM
are these guys really expecting kidd to be the barometer of how good the knicks will be?
kidds not the offensive player nash is but a scorer is the least of what they need. what they need is afacilitator, stabilizer and veteran leadership which kidd will provide. someone to calm things down when in disarray. someone whom the referees respect.
jkidd can only be a plus to a team you can quote me on that
but ultimately, it all boils down to melo and stats development as teamates.

Losoway
07-05-2012, 11:19 PM
damn good we got kid but we lost lin in the process

dodie53
07-06-2012, 02:49 AM
what the F happened to the mavs?

Angelus™
07-06-2012, 02:50 AM
Mavs just getting taken this off season

-Kobe24-TJ19-
07-06-2012, 05:13 AM
holy sweet jesus:speechless:

How the hell can Jkidd play 3 more years?

Quietmoney
07-06-2012, 06:05 AM
J Kidd got plenty of help! He'll be fine here. Can't wait for the season to start, not that fake lockout shortened one. I'm talking one with a real training camp and practices. One without all the injuries due to the compact and condensed schedule. Knicks will be a top 4 team next year and you can book it. All the hate on here is crazy! Laker fans should have been after Lin, the way he abused them at the garden dropping 38 on Kobe and crew with the win while having no Melo or Amare was a real telling story. Can't wait to see Nash guarding Lin, I know we can put Shump on whoever feels like acting up!

Quietmoney
07-06-2012, 06:10 AM
holy sweet jesus:speechless:

How the hell can Jkidd play 3 more years?

I see you have me quoted with the Wade comment I made. I still stand by that too! Lebron carried the hell out of him! He played very regular to me in the playoffs. It was no way he played like a top five player. He was only the 4th best player in the finals. 1. Lebron 2. Durant 3. Westbrook 4. Wade :facepalm:

-Kobe24-TJ19-
07-06-2012, 06:29 AM
I see you have me quoted with the Wade comment I made. I still stand by that too! Lebron carried the hell out of him! He played very regular to me in the playoffs. It was no way he played like a top five player. He was only the 4th best player in the finals. 1. Lebron 2. Durant 3. Westbrook 4. Wade :facepalm:

:facepalm:

AddiX
07-06-2012, 07:42 AM
People are also missing then point that not only will Kidd mentor Lin, he will also mentor shumpert who is a flex 1 & 2.

Becks2307
07-06-2012, 07:52 AM
lol are you guys kidding me, if the knicks can with a playoff game vs the heat with

1 handed amare
sick tyson
no shumpert
baron davis and mike bibby

believe me....jason kidd will make a huge difference. People obviously did not see our guard play outside of Lin last year, it was atrocious. One thing Jason Kidd won't ever be.

JJ_JKidd
07-06-2012, 10:48 PM
Interesting how this would pan out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kquAEihYS0M

utl768
07-07-2012, 01:33 AM
i feel bad for the knicks because there in the worst spot you can be in the nba because there not good enough to compete for a title but they wont be bad enough to get a good draft pick to rebuild the team so there basically stuck in purgatory clinging to false hope

seikou8
07-07-2012, 03:46 AM
haters gonna hate