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Sactown
07-03-2012, 10:30 PM
Eric Gordon has agreed to a 58 million dollar 4 year contract according to Chris Broussard

https://twitter.com/#!/Chris_Broussard



Update: Adrian Wojnarowski tweets that the Hornets will match

sunsfan88
07-03-2012, 10:31 PM
Yeaaaa baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

shep33
07-03-2012, 10:31 PM
NOH can match right?

SACNYY
07-03-2012, 10:32 PM
Didn't the hornets say they will match any offer he receives?

*Superman*
07-03-2012, 10:32 PM
He's a RFA?

StriveGreatness
07-03-2012, 10:32 PM
NO will match

RLundi
07-03-2012, 10:32 PM
Hornets will match.

waveycrockett
07-03-2012, 10:32 PM
Great move. Kids a stud

Sactown
07-03-2012, 10:33 PM
NOH can match right?

Yes they can, but do they want to give EG the max??
This is the guy having problems signing Bree's

greg_ory_2005
07-03-2012, 10:33 PM
Hornets will most likely match.

ManRam
07-03-2012, 10:34 PM
New Orleans has to match...


I'd be stunned if they didn't.

WolvesJagsOs
07-03-2012, 10:35 PM
26s Chris Broussard‏@Chris_Broussard

Eric Gordon told me this: "I strongly feel (the Suns) are the right franchise for me. Phoenix is just where my heart is.''

Chris Broussard‏@Chris_Broussard

Gordon told me his desire is to play in Phoenix, not New Orleans.

Chacarron
07-03-2012, 10:35 PM
The Hornets must match.

Six-8-TheWizard
07-03-2012, 10:36 PM
Wow didn't see this coming. But as everyone else has been saying, the Hornets will match

shen
07-03-2012, 10:36 PM
Hornets said they would match ANY offer, a max deal falls into the category of any.

popo85
07-03-2012, 10:36 PM
NO shouldn't match since he said that, let's see how far he takes them...

king4day
07-03-2012, 10:36 PM
Either they'll have a disgruntled player on their team or he'll be in Phoenix.

ChitownBears22
07-03-2012, 10:36 PM
Do you match an offer for a player that doesn't have his heart in that city. Seems like a disaster move.

ManRam
07-03-2012, 10:37 PM
It doesn't matter where his heart is...if NO matches, he's theirs.

And they will match. So PHX fans, don't get too excited quite yet.

Hunter48MVP
07-03-2012, 10:37 PM
https://twitter.com/Chris_Broussard/status/220343107714170882

Ryan328
07-03-2012, 10:37 PM
If that's how he feels, NO shouldn't match

king4day
07-03-2012, 10:38 PM
Hornets were showing interest in Nick Young. The thinking is they aren't prepared to match a max deal.
We'll see. Either Phoenix starts their rebuilding quickly or they will be a top 3 lottery pick next season.

ManRam
07-03-2012, 10:38 PM
If anything, they'll S&T him. He doesn't want to be there...but I hope we're not at the point where players with such little experience start ruining teams to get out of there.

PHX will not sign him outright...I'd bet my life on that.

black1605
07-03-2012, 10:39 PM
I know the Hornets said they would match, but I don't think they should. If you expect Rivers to be your eventual shooting guard, no point in investing so heavily in a similar player with an injury history like Gordon's. Spend that money elsewhere.

shep33
07-03-2012, 10:39 PM
Yes they can, but do they want to give EG the max??
This is the guy having problems signing Bree's

They might as well match though. I mean they don't have any SG's after him, and the worst case scenario sees them trading him after a year or two for more picks...


Rigged!!! lol jk jk

NOH looking good either way

Hunter48MVP
07-03-2012, 10:39 PM
sorry didn't see the thread my bad

KB-Pau-DH2012
07-03-2012, 10:39 PM
NOLA better match an offer, or else the trade will be Chris Paul for the legendary and sexy Al-Farouq Aminu. :laugh:

Jays Claw
07-03-2012, 10:40 PM
The Hornets will match considering they were already planning on offering EG a max deal. PHX fans don't get too excited...

fadedmario
07-03-2012, 10:41 PM
Good luck Suns fans!!! Hope the Hornets let him have what he wants. No sense in giving a guy a max deal that doesn't want to play for you and plays the same position as Austin Rivers..

WolvesJagsOs
07-03-2012, 10:42 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski‏@WojYahooNBA

The New Orleans Hornets will match the 4-year, $58 million offer sheet Eric Gordon agreed to sign with Phoenix, league source tells Y!

shen
07-03-2012, 10:43 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA

The New Orleans Hornets will match the 4-year, $58 million offer sheet Eric Gordon agreed to sign with Phoenix, league source tells Y!

Well that was short.

KB-Pau-DH2012
07-03-2012, 10:43 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski‏@WojYahooNBA

The New Orleans Hornets will match the 4-year, $58 million offer sheet Eric Gordon agreed to sign with Phoenix, league source tells Y!

Woj > Broussard :clap:

bholly
07-03-2012, 10:43 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA
The New Orleans Hornets will match the 4-year, $58 million offer sheet Eric Gordon agreed to sign with Phoenix, league source tells Y!
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Pakman
07-03-2012, 10:44 PM
Ouch

shep33
07-03-2012, 10:44 PM
That was quick

ramz.n
07-03-2012, 10:45 PM
he wants to get as far away from the uni brow as possible.

bholly
07-03-2012, 10:45 PM
I wonder if he's signed it yet? If not, and he knows they're going to match, he could just sign for a year and be unrestricted next year.

Nikeman
07-03-2012, 10:46 PM
After Gordon coming out and saying this, I would not rule out a S&T.

What you guys think?

shen
07-03-2012, 10:46 PM
I wonder if he's signed it yet? If not, and he knows they're going to match, he could just sign for a year and be unrestricted next year.

Can't sign till the 11th which is why I had same thought on how to get away from Hornets.

KB-Pau-DH2012
07-03-2012, 10:46 PM
Evan Dunlap:
Eric Gordon gets the max this summer pretty much ensures James Harden is gonna get the max-plus next summer. 3 minutes ago

Jint.
07-03-2012, 10:47 PM
N.O. will match.. I think??

king4day
07-03-2012, 10:47 PM
I just hate that they knew he was getting a max offer somewhere yet waited for a team to offer it.
I can understand they wanted to make sure but what does that tell you about what they feel his worth is

bholly
07-03-2012, 10:49 PM
After Gordon coming out and saying this, I would not rule out a S&T.

What you guys think?

Maybe, but I doubt it. If NOH want him and are willing to pay a max, what are the Suns going to offer in return?


Can't sign till the 11th which is why I had same thought on how to get away from Hornets.

Ah, of course. Yeah. So maybe this isn't over.


I just hate that they knew he was getting a max offer somewhere yet waited for a team to offer it.
I can understand they wanted to make sure but what does that tell you about what they feel his worth is

Do we know they didn't offer the max? They're willing to pay the max. That tells you what they think his worth is.

203 Uconn LaL
07-03-2012, 10:49 PM
He's better off signing a 1 year deal and becoming a Ufa next off season.

king4day
07-03-2012, 10:50 PM
Evan Dunlap:3 minutes ago

OKC will have to be prepared for the Suns to make the same offer July 1st of next year.

xnick5757
07-03-2012, 10:50 PM
since hornets will match he cannot be traded to phoenix, or trade him in a sign and trade transaction.


sucks for him if he wanted phoenix

ACanadian
07-03-2012, 10:50 PM
Yeaaaa baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh geez if NOH matches I will be so sorry for you

king4day
07-03-2012, 10:51 PM
Do we know they didn't offer the max? They're willing to pay the max. That tells you what they think his worth is.

Good call. I was only thinking about teams that he visited but for all we know, the Hornets offered him max the moment free agency hit.

bholly
07-03-2012, 10:52 PM
since hornets will match he cannot be traded to phoenix, or trade him in a sign and trade transaction.


sucks for him if he wanted phoenix

Only once he signs the offer sheet - which he hasn't done yet, because we're still in the moratorium. He could do a one year deal now that he knows they'll match, or threaten a one year deal and use that as leverage for a S+T of some kind.

Lake_Show2416
07-03-2012, 10:53 PM
i wouldnt care if a player said he wanted to play for another team, match the offer, its hard for smaller market teams to get good player so u keep the 1s u can

xnick5757
07-03-2012, 10:54 PM
Only once he signs the offer sheet - which he hasn't done yet, because we're still in the moratorium. He could do a one year deal now that he knows they'll match, or threaten a one year deal and use that as leverage for a S+T of some kind.

i don't think he can sign a one year deal now - the ball is all in NO court. if they match he has to sign

Nikeman
07-03-2012, 10:55 PM
@ The Harden post, that's great news... FOR MIAMI!

If you take Harden out of OKC, that makes them so much less scary to me.

shen
07-03-2012, 10:55 PM
He can sign any deal he wants. Ball is not even in play yet. Nothing is official, even offers, untill the 11th. So on the 11th if he wants he can sign a 1 year offer.

mdm692
07-03-2012, 10:56 PM
I hope he pulls a Joe Johnson.

mdm692
07-03-2012, 10:57 PM
3 way trade??

Nash to knicks

Gordon to suns

All of the knicks assets and a future first from phx to NOH.

bholly
07-03-2012, 10:58 PM
i don't think he can sign a one year deal now - the ball is all in NO court. if they match he has to sign

But that's only true once he's signed the offer sheet. The point is he can't have signed the offer sheet. Nothing has happened yet except that he's said he'll sign the offer sheet, and him just saying something doesn't bind anyone to anything. He's still free to sign whatever he wants with whoever he wants, up until the point that he inks the offer sheet, which can't be until the end of the moratorium a week from now.

king4day
07-03-2012, 10:59 PM
I hope he pulls a Joe Johnson.

Yea the Suns did say they were going to match the Hawks' offer until JJ came out and asked PHX not to match.

king4day
07-03-2012, 11:00 PM
But that's only true once he's signed the offer sheet. The point is he can't have signed the offer sheet. Nothing has happened yet except that he's said he'll sign the offer sheet, and him just saying something doesn't bind anyone to anything. He's still free to sign whatever he wants with whoever he wants, up until the point that he inks the offer sheet, which can't be until the end of the moratorium a week from now.

I wonder if that could be part of the plan. Get the Hornets to make their announcement early.

Avenged
07-03-2012, 11:00 PM
Better hope he can actually stay on the court this time.

xnick5757
07-03-2012, 11:01 PM
Can't sign till the 11th which is why I had same thought on how to get away from Hornets.

RFAs can sign QO during the moratorium.

Chucky Woods
07-03-2012, 11:01 PM
So Shumpert and Lin to NO???

xnick5757
07-03-2012, 11:02 PM
But that's only true once he's signed the offer sheet. The point is he can't have signed the offer sheet. Nothing has happened yet except that he's said he'll sign the offer sheet, and him just saying something doesn't bind anyone to anything. He's still free to sign whatever he wants with whoever he wants, up until the point that he inks the offer sheet, which can't be until the end of the moratorium a week from now.

100% correct, glad to see someone who knows their cap business on here!

NO can either match or execute a sign and trade
Gordon can accept the match (by signing the suns offer sheet), or sign his QO 1 year with the hornets (which he could do right now if he wanted)

beerman28
07-03-2012, 11:05 PM
This is rediculous.. Its deals like this that ruin the nba.. Gordon is a solid player dont get me wrong but def not worth that kind of money... The suns and nola are terrible teams w money and instead of making smart choices they throw a bunch of $ at above average, not superstar, talent.. Raising the bar for other sgs.. Terrible no matter which team gets him

sunsfan88
07-03-2012, 11:08 PM
Can't wait to order my Gordon jersey :D

For all those saying the Hornets will match: Do you think the Hornets want a guy who doesn't want to be there?

Hornets are a young team, they wouldn't want to deal with that kind of drama.

bholly
07-03-2012, 11:10 PM
100% correct, glad to see someone who knows their cap business on here!

NO can either match or execute a sign or trade
Gordon can accept the match (by signing the suns offer sheet), or sign his QO 1 year with the hornets (which he could do right now if he wanted)

Same to you, sir. I didn't catch it at first, though - someone else pointed it out.

I think more likely than him agreeing to the QO for a year (which is only $4,001,917) is that he'd sign a bigger one-year contract with the Suns (I think his max is just shy of $13m) assuming NOH would match, and then he'd still be unrestricted next year.

bholly
07-03-2012, 11:11 PM
Can't wait to order my Gordon jersey :D

For all those saying the Hornets will match: Do you think the Hornets want a guy who doesn't want to be there?

Hornets are a young team, they wouldn't want to deal with that kind of drama.

Well they've said they do, so, uh, yes?

ACanadian
07-03-2012, 11:13 PM
Can't wait to order my Gordon jersey :D

For all those saying the Hornets will match: Do you think the Hornets want a guy who doesn't want to be there?

Hornets are a young team, they wouldn't want to deal with that kind of drama.


Don't be in denial, Gordon is going to NOH, sorry buddy.

Dade County
07-03-2012, 11:14 PM
max... smh

cba... smh

owners... smh

psd posters agreeing that he should get a max... smh

my neck hurt.... lmao

N.O has to match because they are trying to create a new culture down their. Suns are just trying to get a new face for their franchise, to create a new buzz around their team.

shen
07-03-2012, 11:14 PM
Don't be in denial, Gordon is going to NOH, sorry buddy.

Good news is if he really cares more about being in PHX then he will just do a one year deal and come to you as unrestricted next year.

ACanadian
07-03-2012, 11:17 PM
Good news is if he really cares more about being in PHX then he will just do a one year deal and come to you as unrestricted next year.

Come to me? I wish HAHA im a Raptors fan. I wish the Sun's the best though

mdm692
07-03-2012, 11:17 PM
Nash and Colangelo conversation

JC: So Nash you're going to be great in Tor and lead the team to the playoffs hopefully more
Nash: Yeah I'm very excited
*Nash checks his twitter notices EG max contract offer*
Nash: Hold that thought I gotta make a quick phone call
*calls sarver phone ringing*
*notices breaking news that NOH will match the offer*
Nash: Anyways you were saying.

shen
07-03-2012, 11:23 PM
Come to me? I wish HAHA im a Raptors fan. I wish the Sun's the best though

lol,
my bad, I meant to click the guy you where quoting.

ManRam
07-03-2012, 11:24 PM
He's worth the max.

Is it a risk? Sure. But i'd gamble on a 23 year old in a heart beat. 14 million year is a lot...but he's a guy who I think can realistically average 23-5-5 as a featured player.


Teams like New Orleans HAVE to take risks. They won't get to the top unless they do. Is signing him to a max deal a risk? Sure. But it's worth it.

Especially considering he's the main piece in the CP3 trade.

NO has to match it...and they're going to...and it makes since. Risky? Sure...but it's a necessity.

Bruno
07-03-2012, 11:27 PM
dude has missed 20+ games in every season since he was 20 years old. he'll be an all-star 3-5 times in his career, but he's another guy who's just not worth max money. an undersized, often injured SG. i wouldn't be shocked if NOH doesn't match, that's a lot of money and a big salary for an organization that's looking for a buyer. i think he'll be a phoenix sun.

the lockout happened large in part because of massive contracts like this. it's frustrating to see the NBAs big guns give so much to the league through revenue sharing, only for mid-level market teams to continue to overpay for often injured, unproven, undersized talent. they bloat the market through unrealistic expectations of young unproven players. sorry, i hope Gordon makes me eat my words.

justinnum1
07-03-2012, 11:27 PM
100% correct, glad to see someone who knows their cap business on here!

NO can either match or execute a sign and trade
Gordon can accept the match (by signing the suns offer sheet), or sign his QO 1 year with the hornets (which he could do right now if he wanted)

With his knee history, i would think he wants that long term guaranteed money right now.

Avenged
07-03-2012, 11:28 PM
He's worth the max.

Is it a risk? Sure. But i'd gamble on a 23 year old in a heart beat. 14 million year is a lot...but he's a guy who I think can realistically average 23-5-5 as a featured player.


Teams like New Orleans HAVE to take risks. They won't get to the top unless they do. Is signing him to a max deal a risk? Sure. But it's worth it.

Especially considering he's the main piece in the CP3 trade.

NO has to match it...and they're going to...and it makes since. Risky? Sure...but it's a necessity.

I suppose so. Him always being injured might not make it worth it though.. Like I said, they better hope he stays on the court. Guy is very injury prone.

Delusional
07-03-2012, 11:28 PM
max... smh

cba... smh

owners... smh

psd posters agreeing that he should get a max... smh

my neck hurt.... lmao

N.O has to match because they are trying to create a new culture down their. Suns are just trying to get a new face for their franchise, to create a new buzz around their team.

The Suns are in a rebuild mode like New Orleans. Adding Eric Gordon would be a big piece of that rebuild. Unfortunately, it doesn't appear as if that will happen.

shen
07-03-2012, 11:30 PM
Um, Hornets were already sold. Maybe check into the sport from time to time?

topdog
07-03-2012, 11:30 PM
I don't know why, but I kind of pictured him there from the start of free agency. Not to mention, the medical staff could help if he has any recurring issues with those knees. I know NOLA can match, but EG doesn't want them to so maybe S&T?

jason17
07-03-2012, 11:30 PM
Yeaaaa baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lol the funny thing is you have had that sig WAYYY before this happend.

Gordan as a suns? kool wonder if Sheldon Brown will accept the back up role. From rotoworld it sounds like Gordan will not return to the hornets.

congrats suns. Ouch hornets.

mdm692
07-03-2012, 11:32 PM
I don't know why, but I kind of pictured him there from the start of free agency. Not to mention, the medical staff could help if he has any recurring issues with those knees. I know NOLA can match, but EG doesn't want them to so maybe S&T?

It makes too much sense for him not to be there. He will be the man, his brother plays about 10-15 miles away from US Airways Center for the Sun Devils and of course the marvelous medical staff could actually keep him healthy.

DoMeFavors
07-03-2012, 11:33 PM
Kinda rude to a team that gave up a lot for you

mdm692
07-03-2012, 11:33 PM
Lol the funny thing is you have had that sig WAYYY before this happend.

Gordan as a suns? kool wonder if Sheldon Brown will accept the back up role. From rotoworld it sounds like Gordan will not return to the hornets.

congrats suns. Ouch hornets.

Hahahah funny thing is we actually talked about this a couple days ago in the suns forum. He's had so many different sig pics and someone said that 1 of those sig pics might actually come true.

mdm692
07-03-2012, 11:35 PM
Kinda rude to a team that gave up a lot for you

Wasn't he plan B. If I'm not mistaken the league didn't allow for plan A to go through. And it's not like the Hornets were in love with him they were just trying to get the best return possible for CP3. Which is why a 3 team trade must go down with Nash to the Knicks all of the Knicks assets to the Hornets along with a 1st from the Suns and of course EG will go to the Suns.

jayjay33
07-03-2012, 11:39 PM
Wow....this makes the okc/ harden saga very interesting.

bholly
07-03-2012, 11:41 PM
Wasn't he plan B. If I'm not mistaken the league didn't allow for plan A to go through. And it's not like the Hornets were in love with him they were just trying to get the best return possible for CP3. Which is why a 3 team trade must go down with Nash to the Knicks all of the Knicks assets to the Hornets along with a 1st from the Suns and of course EG will go to the Suns.

^^ Second time I've seen that mentioned. What are the Knicks' assets that NOH would want? Shumpert and the Knicks' 2018 first? I don't think NOH are going to give up what they consider to be a max guy for that.

king4day
07-03-2012, 11:42 PM
The Hornets will likely meet with Eric Gordon and see where he's at before deciding to match or explore a sign-and-trade.


Alex Kennedy‏@AlexKennedyNBA

New Orleans can match Phoenix's offer sheet, but the Hornets don't want Eric Gordon back if he wants out. They'll look at sign-and-trade.

http://twitter.com/#!/AlexKennedyNBA[/URL]

justjames
07-03-2012, 11:44 PM
Basketball reasons.

AI4MVP
07-03-2012, 11:46 PM
If Alex Kennedy is right, Eric Gordon will be a Phoenix Sun.

mdm692
07-03-2012, 11:47 PM
^^ Second time I've seen that mentioned. What are the Knicks' assets that NOH would want? Shumpert and the Knicks' 2018 first? I don't think NOH are going to give up what they consider to be a max guy for that.

I'm sorry I didn't see that but maybe Lin is interested in NOH and suns can throw a 1st round pick for 2013 or 2014.

ACanadian
07-03-2012, 11:47 PM
Oh maybe not then? Maybe the Sun's are getting alittle lucky now haha, what do the Sun's have that NOH wants?

bholly
07-03-2012, 11:58 PM
I like him being in Phoenix. Hope this works out. Would love if there was a way to get it done with Nash staying.

justinnum1
07-04-2012, 12:03 AM
I too think he would be a good fit in phx but i def think NO matches

Losoway
07-04-2012, 12:06 AM
he openly said he DOESNT want to play for the hornets...his heart is with the suns

let him go . worst thing u want is a player that doesnt wanna play for your team

tonyd3b54
07-04-2012, 12:09 AM
wow hes not worth it. i wouldnt match if i was NO. the max is thrown around way to loosely in the nba

mdm692
07-04-2012, 12:16 AM
We have dudley, morris a 1st and whatever NY throws us for nash.

Yanks All Day
07-04-2012, 12:19 AM
Does Nash want to play with Austin Rivers and Anthony Davis? Can they double sign and trade? The Hornets probably have some money to spend, and Nash can help out the younger guys and probably get Rivers more acclimated to the point guard lifestyle so New Orleans can keep him on the court more.

Chacarron
07-04-2012, 12:20 AM
The Pacers should have offered him a max.

SkipBaylessFan
07-04-2012, 12:20 AM
Totally expect another lockout in a few seasons. Jesus. He's a good player, but to give him a max deal is quite outrageous.

Delusional
07-04-2012, 12:21 AM
he openly said he DOESNT want to play for the hornets...his heart is with the suns

let him go . worst thing u want is a player that doesnt wanna play for your team

I agree completely. I think the Hornets will probably regret matching if they end up following suit. It will mean that they will have a player on their roster who won't give full effort in the upcoming season and will probably request a trade to the Suns anyway.

If I were the management of the Hornets I would let him go. He doesn't want to play for you. You've got a promising talent in Austin Rivers, let Gordon go and build up Rivers' confidence.

thephoenixson28
07-04-2012, 12:29 AM
We have dudley, morris a 1st and whatever NY throws us for nash.

That's too much. I wouldn't even put Dudley in there. Maybe a Frye,Lopez(S&T).

310Casper
07-04-2012, 12:36 AM
saying he doesnt want to play with the hornets....wow....this is pathetic. the nba is getting ridicolous with these new age premadonnas. The hornets traded away cp3 for him and all he gave the hornets was 10 games and was injured the rest of the season. Now the Hornets are willing to pay him max money and he still spits in their face.

Small market teams really stand no chance. ever. Hopefully the next cba makes it so theres a 1 year ban from the league for any player who says he doesnt want to play for a specific team or complains about being traded somewhere. If a team is willing to pay you and traded for you, tough luck, do your job and play.

Next months headline: Charlotte's #1 Pick Anthony Davis requests a trade.

bholly
07-04-2012, 12:42 AM
saying he doesnt want to play with the hornets....wow....this is pathetic. the nba is getting ridicolous with these new age premadonnas. The hornets traded away cp3 for him and all he gave the hornets was 10 games and was injured the rest of the season. Now the Hornets are willing to pay him max money and he still spits in their face.

Small market teams really stand no chance. ever. Hopefully the next cba makes it so theres a 1 year ban from the league for any player who says he doesnt want to play for a specific team or complains about being traded somewhere. If a team is willing to pay you and traded for you, tough luck, do your job and play.

Next months headline: Charlotte's #1 Pick Anthony Davis requests a trade.


?

blastmasta26
07-04-2012, 12:44 AM
Why are people saying the Hornets shouldn't match? Gordon was the centerpiece of the CP3 deal, losing him for nothing is poor decision making. If he really wants out, match the offer and trade him when he's eligible to be moved.

Wolfman01
07-04-2012, 12:45 AM
Hornets will match the Suns offer for sure. Suns are desperate right now for young good players.

nbrod
07-04-2012, 12:50 AM
When healthy i definitely think he's worth the max. Hopefully he puts the injuries behind him

justjames
07-04-2012, 01:07 AM
?

He's still living in the 90s

KTSports
07-04-2012, 01:19 AM
saying he doesnt want to play with the hornets....wow....this is pathetic. the nba is getting ridicolous with these new age premadonnas. The hornets traded away cp3 for him and all he gave the hornets was 10 games and was injured the rest of the season. Now the Hornets are willing to pay him max money and he still spits in their face.

Small market teams really stand no chance. ever. Hopefully the next cba makes it so theres a 1 year ban from the league for any player who says he doesnt want to play for a specific team or complains about being traded somewhere. If a team is willing to pay you and traded for you, tough luck, do your job and play.

Next months headline: Charlotte's #1 Pick Anthony Davis requests a trade.

Lmaoo Charlotte didnt have the #1 pick nor Anthony Davis..NO did.

RaiderKid318
07-04-2012, 01:33 AM
With his knee history, i would think he wants that long term guaranteed money right now.

pretty sure this was his first knee injury this year

Punk
07-04-2012, 01:37 AM
So, do you match on a guy who just said he doesn't want to play for the Hornets? I'd hope not.

Look, the Hornets got Anthony Davis and Austin Rivers. They'll be fine without Gordon.

PC
07-04-2012, 01:39 AM
So, do you match on a guy who just said he doesn't want to play for the Hornets? I'd hope not.

Look, the Hornets got Anthony Davis and Austin Rivers. They'll be fine without Gordon.

He was the centerpiece to the CP3 deal, how can you justify letting him walk for nothing?

king4day
07-04-2012, 01:39 AM
For those ripping the fact that he's a good player getting the max, keep in mind, this isn't a 20mil per year max. He's going to get just under 15mil per year for the duration of the deal.

I know it's still a lot, but it's not as bad as it'd be a few years from now when he'd be entering Joe Johnson territory with the yearly amount.

Mckphins
07-04-2012, 01:42 AM
People keep saying Gordon was all hornets got out of cp trade. They got minnesotas pick so they theoretically got rivers from it, and because of lettin cp go they were bad enough to land number 1 pick. Gordon is nice but if he doesn't want to be there I say sign and trade. Well wait till next year and sign cp3 back lol

NSJ
07-04-2012, 01:48 AM
Lmaoo Charlotte didnt have the #1 pick nor Anthony Davis..NO did.

Whatever man he made a mistake. He said NO earlier in the post, he was probably an nba fan way before you ever watched basketball.

I'd like to see Gordon stay in new Orleans and see what that team coupe develop in to.

Shkelqim
07-04-2012, 01:48 AM
They have Austin Rivers who was def the second best player in this draft, i think the kid is going to be special. With Davis and Rivers they will make an immediate impact and Gordon will regret it considering the Suns are going to mediocre lol no matter who they get they won't win. They HAVE the dumbest organization anybody can have.

310Casper
07-04-2012, 01:51 AM
Lmaoo Charlotte didnt have the #1 pick nor Anthony Davis..NO did.

obvious typo. have common sense, you know what i meant.

RaiderKid318
07-04-2012, 01:57 AM
Everyone saying KTSports made a typo or is an idiot for messing that up I think it is kind of obvious that was a JOKE about the draft being rigged and Charlotte getting screwed out of the 1st pick. Lol I swear jokes fly over everyone's head on this site.

Mckphins
07-04-2012, 02:06 AM
It'd be nice to have Davis, rivers and Gordon together, but max money for a guy who's heart ain't there isn't worth it. Sign and trade. But the suns literally have nothing I'd want for the hornets. Gortat? He's alright, but ideally a backup. Trade him somewherebelse like indy

RaiderKid318
07-04-2012, 02:10 AM
So, do you match on a guy who just said he doesn't want to play for the Hornets? I'd hope not.

Look, the Hornets got Anthony Davis and Austin Rivers. They'll be fine without Gordon.

um yes it is a business you don't just let people walk. You get whatever you can for them. S&T

sunsfan88
07-04-2012, 02:14 AM
http://www.sportsgrindent.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/AMINU_GORDON_KAMAN_HORNETS_JERSEYS.jpg

Look at the face of joy on Gordon's face to wear a Hornets jersey... :D

Phins 4 Life
07-04-2012, 02:28 AM
EG just made it known he rather play for phoenix. Why sign EG if he doesn't want to be with the hornets just sign and trade him. Get a 1st round pick 2013 ect and the hornets will have another lottery pick. Because the suns are Not gonna make the playoffs.

Punk
07-04-2012, 02:32 AM
um yes it is a business you don't just let people walk. You get whatever you can for them. S&T

After the Lamar Odom situation? You better rethink it as a GM.

RaiderKid318
07-04-2012, 02:39 AM
After the Lamar Odom situation? You better rethink it as a GM.

Can you not read I said do a S&T. That means we will trade him to PHX they will get what they want and we will get something in return. That is nothing like the lamar odom situation, pay attention.

Sadds The Gr8
07-04-2012, 02:40 AM
didn't know Gordon was a douche like that.

RaiderKid318
07-04-2012, 02:41 AM
http://www.sportsgrindent.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/AMINU_GORDON_KAMAN_HORNETS_JERSEYS.jpg

Look at the face of joy on Gordon's face to wear a Hornets jersey... :D

Because your team is so much better without nash lol

RaiderKid318
07-04-2012, 02:41 AM
didn't know Gordon was a douche like that.

Yeah I hope we trade him to PHX and rob them blind lol. Then he gets to rot in that turd hole

sunsfan88
07-04-2012, 02:54 AM
Because your team is so much better without nash lol

Apparently Gordon would rather play on a Nash less Suns team than the Hornets :facepalm::facepalm:

He looks pretty happy in PHX...

http://www.nba.com/suns/video/suns-recruit-eric-gordon

sunsfan88
07-04-2012, 02:57 AM
um yes it is a business you don't just let people walk. You get whatever you can for them. S&T
I understand this.

I think whatever we get for Nash (if he goes to the Lakers or Knicks) + Lopez (s&t) will be our offer.

sunsfan88
07-04-2012, 02:59 AM
didn't know Gordon was a douche like that.

How is he a douche. New Orleans drafted Rivers and their gonna run a lineup with 2 SGs...Gordon would rather play with a PG than a guy like Rivers who is gonna dominate the ball.

How can you blame him for that?

mdm692
07-04-2012, 03:14 AM
Because your team is so much better without nash lol

No but you add dragic and a few more pieces via FA and they are.

mdm692
07-04-2012, 03:16 AM
saying he doesnt want to play with the hornets....wow....this is pathetic. the nba is getting ridicolous with these new age premadonnas. The hornets traded away cp3 for him and all he gave the hornets was 10 games and was injured the rest of the season. Now the Hornets are willing to pay him max money and he still spits in their face.

Small market teams really stand no chance. ever. Hopefully the next cba makes it so theres a 1 year ban from the league for any player who says he doesnt want to play for a specific team or complains about being traded somewhere. If a team is willing to pay you and traded for you, tough luck, do your job and play.

Next months headline: Charlotte's #1 Pick Anthony Davis requests a trade.

Have you thought that maybe thats why he wants to play in PHX. We do have the best medical staff in the league, hell probably in the history of the nba.

Mckphins
07-04-2012, 03:31 AM
Why you would choose a very untalented team with good medical staff over a team with Davis and rivers, a team that traded for you, and a coach like Williams is beyond me

RaiderKid318
07-04-2012, 03:44 AM
Apparently Gordon would rather play on a Nash less Suns team than the Hornets :facepalm::facepalm:

He looks pretty happy in PHX...

http://www.nba.com/suns/video/suns-recruit-eric-gordon

I could get a video of him laughing and smiling in NO too. That's stupid and ignorant. I would be pissed off if I got traded from the ****** now good clippers to a rebuilding hornets too. Congrats you proved nothing.


I understand this.

I think whatever we get for Nash (if he goes to the Lakers or Knicks) + Lopez (s&t) will be our offer.

Lol and they will laugh y'all off the phone and trade him some where that send a serious offer. Nash is dirt old and isn't going to net a great return at all. Lopez is yalls back up center that is just... Well that's a joke. Your going to give up a lot more than you will be happy about bud.

RaiderKid318
07-04-2012, 03:46 AM
Why you would choose a very untalented team with good medical staff over a team with Davis and rivers, a team that traded for you, and a coach like Williams is beyond me

Health and I guess he wants to go somewhere he can control the ball a lot more. I have been saying we should trade him since last season and I hope we do. We need a legit PG anyways not a combo set.

Chrisc21
07-04-2012, 03:48 AM
No way New Orleans doesn't match

sunsfan88
07-04-2012, 04:01 AM
I could get a video of him laughing and smiling in NO too. That's stupid and ignorant. I would be pissed off if I got traded from the ****** now good clippers to a rebuilding hornets too. Congrats you proved nothing.



Lol and they will laugh y'all off the phone and trade him some where that send a serious offer. Nash is dirt old and isn't going to net a great return at all. Lopez is yalls back up center that is just... Well that's a joke. Your going to give up a lot more than you will be happy about bud.

First of all, stop being so touchy.

Secondly, you do realize that no other team will trade for him since he wants to be in Phoenix and not anywhere else right? If you don't believe me, go ask Magic fans.

Thirdly, I wouldn't mind trading lotto protected 1st rd pick for Gordon. Also, Lopez is a former lottery pick so perhaps Monty Williams can get something out of him. But imo Hornets can have anything on our roster except for Gortat.

aussie
07-04-2012, 04:04 AM
I hope we get a few picks out of this cause PHX aren't going anywhere

bholly
07-04-2012, 04:12 AM
First of all, stop being so touchy.

Secondly, you do realize that no other team will trade for him since he wants to be in Phoenix and not anywhere else right? If you don't believe me, go ask Magic fans.

Thirdly, I wouldn't mind trading lotto protected 1st rd pick for Gordon. Also, Lopez is a former lottery pick so perhaps Monty Williams can get something out of him. But imo Hornets can have anything on our roster except for Gortat.

lol, the Magic is a totally different situation. Dwight is coming to the end of his contract. If he had 4 years left plenty of teams would trade for him, whether he liked it or not. If EJ ends up on a long term deal matched by NOH, plenty of teams would be thrilled to trade for him regardless of where he wants to be. It isn't like he's going to refuse to play for 4 years just because he isn't in Phoenix. Same with Melo, same with CP3. All the guys that force trades are guys that are coming to the end of their contract, because without that they have no leverage.

Man, people will say anything, no matter how little sense it makes, to try and convince people on the internet that something's going to turn out the way they want. It'll turn out how it turns out, talking rubbish to convince people he's going to Phoenix doesn't make it any more likely.

Mckphins
07-04-2012, 04:48 AM
First of all, stop being so touchy.

Secondly, you do realize that no other team will trade for him since he wants to be in Phoenix and not anywhere else right? If you don't believe me, go ask Magic fans.

Thirdly, I wouldn't mind trading lotto protected 1st rd pick for Gordon. Also, Lopez is a former lottery pick so perhaps Monty Williams can get something out of him. But imo Hornets can have anything on our roster except for Gortat.

Lol they can have anything except gortat? That's because you've got nothing but gortat, and he's just an average center. A protected 1st round? Gtfo. You honestly thnk the hornets would trade you him for nothing when they've got all the leverage? God some fans are dreamers and think something like a Lopez and a protected first would get him!

Delusional
07-04-2012, 04:51 AM
Lol they can have anything except gortat? That's because you've got nothing but gortat, and he's just an average center. A protected 1st round? Gtfo. You honestly thnk the hornets would trade you him for nothing when they've got all the leverage? God some fans are dreamers and think something like a Lopez and a protected first would get him!

The consensus is that Gortat is a Top 5-10 center. That's well above average.

Mckphins
07-04-2012, 04:54 AM
Number ten center in this nba is average. There is bugger all good centers

Delusional
07-04-2012, 05:04 AM
Number ten center in this nba is average. There is bugger all good centers

You must not know numbers very well. There are 30 teams in the NBA, right? Therefore, there are 30 starting centers (barring injury/replacement). Which also means, if there are 30 starting centers, the 15th best center is exactly average.

If we want to stretch out the term 'average', because there are a lot of centers very similar to one another, the 'average' centers would be the ones ranked 12-17.

Gortat by most people is ranked anywhere from Top 10 to Top 5. Therefore, by numbers, he is above average.

sunsfan88
07-04-2012, 05:19 AM
Gortat is easily a top 8 center in this league.

Mckphins
07-04-2012, 05:20 AM
You must not know numbers very well. There are 30 teams in the NBA, right? Therefore, there are 30 starting centers (barring injury/replacement). Which also means, if there are 30 starting centers, the 15th best center is exactly average.

If we want to stretch out the term 'average', because there are a lot of centers very similar to one another, the 'average' centers would be the ones ranked 12-17.

Gortat by most people is ranked anywhere from Top 10 to Top 5. Therefore, by numbers, he is above average.

Sorry that must mean that a top 5-10 center in my ball league is above average then right? Well no it's a **** league and there are none! Read wat I wrote fool. The guys average. It's a weak class of centers

Mckphins
07-04-2012, 05:21 AM
I wouldn't trade Gordon for gortat. So why the he'll would they take Lopez?

bholly
07-04-2012, 05:34 AM
Every time I see it come up I see Gortat shot down as a top 10 center, to be honest. On last year's PSD rankings he wasn't close, and last offseason's ESPN rankings had him at 15, and it isn't like he took a monumental leap this year. He could maybe be squeezing into the top 10, but 'most people rank him 5 to 10' is pretty absurd.

We'll see what this year's rankings all say, I guess.

Huntey
07-04-2012, 05:45 AM
Sorry that must mean that a top 5-10 center in my ball league is above average then right? Well no it's a **** league and there are none! Read wat I wrote fool. The guys average. It's a weak class of centers

We'll in his weak class of centres, he's above average. Meaning he's one of the best in the NBA.

Yes, if you're a top 5 centre in your rec league then that makes you an above average C in your league right? Same with Gortat. How do you not understand that.

sunsfan88
07-04-2012, 05:50 AM
Every time I see it come up I see Gortat shot down as a top 10 center, to be honest. On last year's PSD rankings he wasn't close, and last offseason's ESPN rankings had him at 15, and it isn't like he took a monumental leap this year. He could maybe be squeezing into the top 10, but 'most people rank him 5 to 10' is pretty absurd.

We'll see what this year's rankings all say, I guess.

Most agreed that he's top 8 in this thread

http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?t=686821

sunsfan88
07-04-2012, 05:51 AM
I wouldn't trade Gordon for gortat. So why the he'll would they take Lopez?

Because they don't care what YOU think...

sunsfan88
07-04-2012, 05:53 AM
This guy is probably the biggest Hornets fan/homer ever and even he agreed that the Hornets should let him and get back "scraps" from Phoenix.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gaGinqC3rU&feature=player_embedded

Scraps mean Lopez, protected 1st rd picks etc.

sunsfan88
07-04-2012, 05:53 AM
This guy is probably the biggest Hornets fan/homer ever & even he agreed that the Hornets should let him and get back "scraps" from Phoenix.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gaGinqC3rU&feature=player_embedded

Scraps mean Lopez, protected 1st rd picks etc.

bholly
07-04-2012, 05:58 AM
Most agreed that he's top 8 in this thread

http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?t=686821

Not the way I see it. There's a bunch of people saying 'he's good', but of the ones who give actual rankings most are putting him outside - especially once you excuse the Suns fans. Also worth noting that a thread like that means nothing - there are 15 or more guys who would be called top 10 if you had a thread for each of them.

I don't care about rankings, and I'm not looking for a fight, I'm just saying that from what I've seen I don't think it's true to say most people put him that high. Some might, sure, but saying most as if it's a fact is wrong. Again, we'll see what people think when all the new offseason rankings come out.

sunsfan88
07-04-2012, 06:23 AM
Not the way I see it. There's a bunch of people saying 'he's good', but of the ones who give actual rankings most are putting him outside - especially once you excuse the Suns fans. Also worth noting that a thread like that means nothing - there are 15 or more guys who would be called top 10 if you had a thread for each of them.

I don't care about rankings, and I'm not looking for a fight, I'm just saying that from what I've seen I don't think it's true to say most people put him that high. Some might, sure, but saying most as if it's a fact is wrong. Again, we'll see what people think when all the new offseason rankings come out.

Ok well where do YOU think Gortat should be ranked?

sunsfan88
07-04-2012, 07:46 AM
Did anyone else know that Gordan actually said he hoped the Hornets wouldn't match the offer?


Gordon, given a huge welcome by Suns employees, told the Republic after his meeting with the Suns that "Phoenix is where my heart is now" and he hoped the Hornets would not match the offer. The Suns can sign Gordon to the offer sheet on July 11 and New Orleans would have three days to match.

http://www.nba.com/2012/news/07/03/suns-gordon.ap/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpt2

I knew about the statement but I never knew that he specifically asked the Hornets to not match.

http://i.imgur.com/Z0qc2.gif

JeffG20
07-04-2012, 07:49 AM
This guy is probably the biggest Hornets fan/homer ever & even he agreed that the Hornets should let him and get back "scraps" from Phoenix.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gaGinqC3rU&feature=player_embedded

Scraps mean Lopez, protected 1st rd picks etc.

your out of your mind if you think thats what it will take to get Gordon

JeffG20
07-04-2012, 07:53 AM
Because they don't care what YOU think...

and we dont care what Gordon wants, if it doesnt benefit us (see your lopez proposal) then we're matching and he's not going anywhere.

Chris paul wanted to go to NY see how well that worked for him.

JeffG20
07-04-2012, 07:58 AM
Apparently Gordon would rather play on a Nash less Suns team than the Hornets :facepalm::facepalm:

He looks pretty happy in PHX...

http://www.nba.com/suns/video/suns-recruit-eric-gordon


hey if he's happy, good for yall. enjoy him for 9 games a season

sunsfan88
07-04-2012, 08:05 AM
your out of your mind if you think thats what it will take to get Gordon

Listen man, why don't you read this

http://www.nba.com/hawks/news/Hawks_Announce_Joe_Johnson_081905.html

The Hornets are not gonna get a whole lot more for Gordon than we got for Joe Johnson.

Phoenix had the same exact situation 7 years ago and I remember a lot of Suns fan saying crap like "Oooh if the Hawks don't give us 4 first round picks, and Josh Smith, we're not gonna trade Joe" and that's what all you Hornets fans are doing right now.

JeffG20
07-04-2012, 08:09 AM
Listen man, why don't you read this

http://www.nba.com/hawks/news/Hawks_Announce_Joe_Johnson_081905.html

The Hornets are not gonna get a whole lot more for Gordon than we got for Joe Johnson.

Phoenix had the same exact situation 7 years ago and I remember a lot of Suns fan saying crap like "Oooh if the Hawks don't give us 4 first round picks, and Josh Smith, we're not gonna trade Joe" and that's what all you Hornets fans are doing right now.

i dont think anyone is asking for 4 first round picks lol

but he's definatly worth more then robin ****ing lopez. hell, houston offered practically their whole roster man. so its not like there arent already better offers on the table.

king4day
07-04-2012, 08:26 AM
EG just made it known he rather play for phoenix. Why sign EG if he doesn't want to be with the hornets just sign and trade him. Get a 1st round pick 2013 ect and the hornets will have another lottery pick. Because the suns are Not gonna make the playoffs.

Suns wouldn't trade an unprotected first just like mohawks wouldn't trade in unprotected first for a few years when they signed and traded for joe johnson

sunsfan88
07-04-2012, 08:35 AM
i dont think anyone is asking for 4 first round picks lol

but he's definatly worth more then robin ****ing lopez. hell, houston offered practically their whole roster man. so its not like there arent already better offers on the table.

Robin Lopez, Kendall Marshall, '14 protected 1st rd pick....

That seems fair imo. Its basically like we're giving you two lottery picks (Lopez & Marshall) and another 1st outside the lottery

And remember we got fat Diaw and two protected 1st rd picks for Joe Johnson.

JeffG20
07-04-2012, 08:38 AM
Robin Lopez, Kendall Marshall, '14 protected 1st rd pick....

That seems fair imo. Its basically like we're giving you two lottery picks (Lopez & Marshall) and another 1st outside the lottery

And remember we got fat Diaw and two protected 1st rd picks for Joe Johnson.

i think thats fair. i like Marshall, Rivers combo then a Gordon Rivers combo anyway.

my only concern at that point is this tam is nothing but lottery picks but its not really all bad lol. next years FA class is much better and we can fill out our roster with that. i like this deal

Mckphins
07-04-2012, 08:41 AM
God just cause Lopez was a lottery pick doesn't make him like a new lottery pick. Do you even try to apprehend what you type. Th hornets probably wouldnt even sign Lopez if he was a free agent, let alone trade ej for him. Paul wanted Knicks, where he end up? Stop gettin giddy over your team potentially winning five more games next season.

koreancabbage
07-04-2012, 08:45 AM
God just cause Lopez was a lottery pick doesn't make him like a new lottery pick. Do you even try to apprehend what you type. Th hornets probably wouldnt even sign Lopez if he was a free agent, let alone trade ej for him. Paul wanted Knicks, where he end up? Stop gettin giddy over your team potentially winning five more games next season.

you know, the hornets SHOULD sign Lopez to a contract and totally mess up the entire Dwight Howard trade.

enough drama for one offseason from one player not named Lebron James lol

and then BR needs to match cuz Lopez is still their best big man this upcoming season.

JeffG20
07-04-2012, 08:49 AM
God just cause Lopez was a lottery pick doesn't make him like a new lottery pick. Do you even try to apprehend what you type. Th hornets probably wouldnt even sign Lopez if he was a free agent, let alone trade ej for him. Paul wanted Knicks, where he end up? Stop gettin giddy over your team potentially winning five more games next season.

i agree that lopez is not enough, but what if Kendall Marshall was included?

that along with a future first is pretty decent for a guy that cant stay on the floor. and if Gordon is going to go the Paul route and put himself before the team why not ship him out?

sunsfan88
07-04-2012, 09:00 AM
i think thats fair. i like Marshall, Rivers combo then a Gordon Rivers combo anyway.

my only concern at that point is this tam is nothing but lottery picks but its not really all bad lol. next years FA class is much better and we can fill out our roster with that. i like this deal

I never understood the logic behind a Rivers-Gordon combo in the first place. Neither Gordon nor Rivers are playmakers so the Hornets would have had two guards who both have to dominate the ball to be successful?

That would have been disastrous IMO. Nobody else including Anthony Davis would get any touches then lol.

Your absolutely right Marshall, Rivers >>> Rivers, Gordon

Marshall's a pass first PG too so y'all offense would run smooth.

But our FO was really high on him and I think they'll only trade him if we get a commitment from Dragic (which I think we will)

Mckphins
07-04-2012, 09:01 AM
I'd take Marshall and an unprotected pick. Only now he includes Marshall cause he hears how stupid his first posts are

DR_1
07-04-2012, 09:02 AM
This is rediculous.. Its deals like this that ruin the nba.. Gordon is a solid player dont get me wrong but def not worth that kind of money... The suns and nola are terrible teams w money and instead of making smart choices they throw a bunch of $ at above average, not superstar, talent.. Raising the bar for other sgs.. Terrible no matter which team gets him

I could see Gordon being a star if he stays healthy.

koreancabbage
07-04-2012, 09:08 AM
I never understood the logic behind a Rivers-Gordon combo in the first place. Neither Gordon nor Rivers are playmakers so the Hornets would have had two guards who both have to dominate the ball to be successful?

That would have been disastrous IMO. Nobody else including Anthony Davis would get any touches then lol.

Your absolutely right Marshall, Rivers >>> Rivers, Gordon

Marshall's a pass first PG too so y'all offense would run smooth.

But our FO was really high on him and I think they'll only trade him if we get a commitment from Dragic (which I think we will)

but a Marshall Gordon is so much better with Rivers off the bench. I think thats how it can play out.

thenaj17
07-04-2012, 09:11 AM
God just cause Lopez was a lottery pick doesn't make him like a new lottery pick. Do you even try to apprehend what you type. Th hornets probably wouldnt even sign Lopez if he was a free agent, let alone trade ej for him. Paul wanted Knicks, where he end up? Stop gettin giddy over your team potentially winning five more games next season.

This!

sunsfan88
07-04-2012, 09:17 AM
I can't wait til the Hornets FO comments on this.

bholly
07-04-2012, 09:29 AM
Ok well where do YOU think Gortat should be ranked?

I don't.

waveycrockett
07-04-2012, 09:31 AM
I don't.

Your crazy. I'm not even a suns fans but that man can ball.

JeffG20
07-04-2012, 09:35 AM
I just hate that they knew he was getting a max offer somewhere yet waited for a team to offer it.
I can understand they wanted to make sure but what does that tell you about what they feel his worth is

why would they want to outbid themselves? if you offer a max and no team was going to offer it you give up more money then needed.

and given that someone posted immediatly that they are going to match it seems they value him greatly.

i honesty wouldnt mind a S&T, but it wouldnt hurt my feelings if they kept him either

bholly
07-04-2012, 09:42 AM
Your crazy. I'm not even a suns fans but that man can ball.

I'm not saying he isn't good, I'm saying I don't care enough about rankings to spend time trying to come up with some ******** ordering just to give this guy a meaningless number that he can argue with.

nolafan33
07-04-2012, 02:29 PM
The Hornets will match, and Eric's heart will be in New Orleans.

Why you ask? Because his heart follows the max money.

The guy hasn't been working out with coaches and teammates, attending predraft workouts, and even reportedly signing off on the idea that he could play with Austin Rivers because he didn't want to be here.

Eric Gordon is protecting a contract that he has yet to (and doesn't have the ability to) sign. Right now, it's an offer. It can be rescinded at any point before he signs it. He's playing the game, saying the right things...

nolafan33
07-04-2012, 02:32 PM
I can't wait til the Hornets FO comments on this.

They won't comment. They know it's just Gordon playing the game and saying what needs to be said to get his max money. If Phoenix hadn't offered the max, his heart wouldn't be there. He's said from the beginning that he's going to go for the max money first.

JeffG20
07-04-2012, 02:32 PM
The Hornets will match, and Eric's heart will be in New Orleans.

Why you ask? Because his heart follows the max money.

The guy hasn't been working out with coaches and teammates, attending predraft workouts, and even reportedly signing off on the idea that he could play with Austin Rivers because he didn't want to be here.

Eric Gordon is protecting a contract that he has yet to (and doesn't have the ability to) sign. Right now, it's an offer. It can be rescinded at any point before he signs it. He's playing the game, saying the right things...

and to add to that i'd also like to see gordon himself say he doesnt want to be here. not from chris broussard, not from some statement by his agent. Gordon himself.

and even if he does prefer PHO why should we really care? worst case scenario we can wait a year, showcase him and then get great offers considering he'll have 3 years left.

nolafan33
07-04-2012, 02:38 PM
Eric Gordon has come out himself and said New Orleans is a good city, with one of the best coaches in the league and he likes it here. That's more than Chris Paul ever said.

I'll say it again, maybe he does prefer Phoenix. He would be THE man there. But it really doesn't matter. He isn't some immature spoiled brat like some guys in this league. He won't starting pouting and playing half speed because he didn't get his way. Lets just say the NBA has 420 players on team rosters, how many of those do you think are in their preferred number one destination? Very few.

sunsfan88
07-04-2012, 02:46 PM
Hornets fans should be REALLY HAPPY hearing the news about the Knicks offering Shumpert to us for Gordon.

If we get Shump, I'd say it's a lock that he's getting traded to New Orleans for Eric Gordon.

But damn I wish there was a way to keep Shump, Gortat, and Gordon together :/

nolafan33
07-04-2012, 02:46 PM
And heck, to go even further. If Gordon's heart was really in Phoenix, he wouldn't sign the offer sheet. And that's surely sounds like to me that Phoenix will offer him the sheet and he'll sign it.

JeffG20
07-04-2012, 02:52 PM
Hornets fans should be REALLY HAPPY hearing the news about the Knicks offering Shumpert to us for Gordon.

If we get Shump, I'd say it's a lock that he's getting traded to New Orleans for Eric Gordon.

But damn I wish there was a way to keep Shump, Gortat, and Gordon together :/



" Q: Can the Hornets just match the Suns offer and then trade him wherever they want?

A: Yes and No. Mostly no. First of all, if they do match the Suns offer sheet, they can not trade him to the Phoenix Suns for the duration of the contract (4 years). However, they can match the offer sheet and then engage in trade talks with the other 28 teams in the league immediately. As always, there is a catch. Per the new CBA, Eric Gordon would have veto power on any trade for the next year. So, the idea of matching the offer sheet and sending him to Charlotte for MKG is nice and all, but Gordon would have to agree to go play for MJ. Not likely. After that year is up, the Hornets are free to trade Gordon anywhere without his consent until the final year of his deal.

So the scenario is similar to a sign-and-trade, as both the team and Eric would have to agree to the deal, at least in the first year. It’s just that Phoenix would be removed from consideration, per the CBA, if the offer sheet is signed.

Since nothing has been officially signed yet, however, Dell Demps can get on the phone with the Suns and work out a sign and trade in which the Hornets give him the same contract and move him for pieces if they prefer to have player’s whose bodies and hearts are both in the same city. Again, Dell holds all the cards, the only question is how he wants to play them."

sunsfan88
07-04-2012, 02:52 PM
Exactly! Gordon has to sign off on another trade and he won't cause he wants to stay in Phoenix!!!! :D

JeffG20
07-04-2012, 02:53 PM
what part of not being able to trade dont you understand bro lol

nolafan33
07-04-2012, 02:54 PM
There's been absolutely no indication that the Hornets are looking to sign and trade Eric Gordon. All reports say we have already decided to match, which throws out any chance he's traded.

Huntey
07-04-2012, 02:54 PM
And heck, to go even further. If Gordon's heart was really in Phoenix, he wouldn't sign the offer sheet. And that's surely sounds like to me that Phoenix will offer him the sheet and he'll sign it.

He clearly likes PHX because he's interested in a shorter, less lucrative contract from them when he could have pushed for more money and years from NO.

nolafan33
07-04-2012, 02:55 PM
what part of not being able to trade dont you understand bro lol

He just isn't interested in understanding the facts.

thephoenixson28
07-04-2012, 02:59 PM
The Hornets will match, and Eric's heart will be in New Orleans.

Why you ask? Because his heart follows the max money.

The guy hasn't been working out with coaches and teammates, attending predraft workouts, and even reportedly signing off on the idea that he could play with Austin Rivers because he didn't want to be here.

Eric Gordon is protecting a contract that he has yet to (and doesn't have the ability to) sign. Right now, it's an offer. It can be rescinded at any point before he signs it. He's playing the game, saying the right things...

Gordon wouldn't have made that comment knowingly that the hornets would match it. Its not about the max contract cuz he was getting the same in New Orleans. He rather play for the suns then the hornets. Can anybody get it through there thick head.

hugepatsfan
07-04-2012, 03:01 PM
If he really wanted to go to PHX that bad he should have just signed the tender w/ NO and then walked after the season. But no, he wants to get paid now and go where he wants. Sorry, but that's not how the system works.

Huntey
07-04-2012, 03:01 PM
what part of not being able to trade dont you understand bro lol

He can't be traded if the offer sheet is signed and NO match it, you're right. But he can be traded in a S&T if the teams come to an agreement before anything is signed. That way, you leave out the offer sheets and NO just do a straight-up S&T for max money. No offers, no matching.

JeffG20
07-04-2012, 03:02 PM
Gordon wouldn't have made that comment knowingly that the hornets would match it. Its not about the max contract cuz he was getting the same in New Orleans. He rather play for the suns then the hornets. Can anybody get it through there thick head.

do you understand he has no power to control this. they've said they are matching. do you seriously think he's walking for nothing. your not getting him in a trade because you cant via CBA. but go ahead and pre order your gordon suns jersey.

nolafan33
07-04-2012, 03:02 PM
The Hornets haven't offered him a max deal. He knows the only way to get one from the Hornets is by getting another team to offer it. We offered 4 years 52 million.

I don't know why I have to say this so many times, it's 100% fact, but if Gordon signs that offer sheet his words were just hot air, words he said to get the Suns to offer him the max contract. If he signs it, he knows there is a 0% chance he's in Phoenix next year. If you don't believe me, look at the NBA CBA.

nolafan33
07-04-2012, 03:04 PM
He can't be traded if the offer sheet is signed and NO match it, you're right. But he can be traded in a S&T if the teams come to an agreement before anything is signed. That way, you leave out the offer sheets and NO just do a straight-up S&T for max money. No offers, no matching.

All indications point to this being a verbal agreement between he and the Suns regarding the offer sheet.

JeffG20
07-04-2012, 03:05 PM
He can't be traded if the offer sheet is signed and NO match it, you're right. But he can be traded in a S&T if the teams come to an agreement before anything is signed. That way, you leave out the offer sheets and NO just do a straight-up S&T for max money. No offers, no matching.

i just dont think PHO has has anything worth value. like i said say we keep him at least one more year, we can definatly get better value for him on a 3 year deal. hell from what they say it doesnt even sound like they plan on letting him go.

as long as we get value i dont care one way or another what we do with him

nolafan33
07-04-2012, 03:07 PM
From Arizona newspaper:


Phoenix Suns get commitment from Eric Gordon to signing a maximum-level offer sheet.

The Suns landed their prime free-agency target, shooting guard Eric Gordon, with a Tuesday night commitment.

Now, it becomes a matter of whether he is a moving target. Gordon, 23, agreed to sign a four-year, $58 million offer sheet on July 11, but New Orleans is expected to match the restricted free agent's maximum-level offer in its ensuing three-day window.

hugepatsfan
07-04-2012, 03:12 PM
Is Eric Gordon really that stupid and self-centered that he thinks NO should just be nice and let him walk for free? Does he realize that by signing this offer sheet on July 11th like he agreed to he gives himself no chance of going to PHX... NO isn't going to let arguably the biggest asset they have walk for nothing and if he thinks they are he's just a moron. He could have just signed his tender and then walked after the year, but instead he thinks NO should just be nice guys and let him go a year ealry for nothing. I bet he'll be broke after he retires because he clearly doesn't know **** about business.

Huntey
07-04-2012, 03:12 PM
i just dont think PHO has has anything worth value. like i said say we keep him at least one more year, we can definatly get better value for him on a 3 year deal. hell from what they say it doesnt even sound like they plan on letting him go.

as long as we get value i dont care one way or another what we do with him

If Gordon doesn't like the idea of staying in NO he could end-up signing the tender then leaving next year as an UFA. Even if that is unlikely, especially with his injury history, the NO front office still has to consider that.

All this stuff about NO waiting to see if anyone else offered max money seems a little off. Everybody and their dog knew he would get offered a max contract. I don't know what it says about NO but obviously Gordon wasn't happy with whatever they offered him.

If things go smoothly, you guys could end-up with Iman Shumpert (+ fillers) and PHX future 1sts so you would be getting some value. Just don;t expect those first to be unprotected.

JeffG20
07-04-2012, 03:18 PM
If Gordon doesn't like the idea of staying in NO he could end-up signing the tender then leaving next year as an UFA. Even if that is unlikely, especially with his injury history, the NO front office still has to consider that.

All this stuff about NO waiting to see if anyone else offered max money seems a little off. Everybody and their dog knew he would get offered a max contract. I don't know what it says about NO but obviously Gordon wasn't happy with whatever they offered him.

If things go smoothly, you guys could end-up with Iman Shumpert (+ fillers) and PHX future 1sts so you would be getting some value. Just don;t expect those first to be unprotected.

he's made it clear he wants his max money. it would be smarter to do that business wise but he's chasing the quick $. i pray he signs that offer lol

nolafan33
07-04-2012, 03:20 PM
Bottom line, if he really wants to play in Phoenix, then he's not touching that Suns offer sheet with a 100 foot pole. That's not what we're being told from a number of reporters and sources though. What we're being told is that there is a agreement to sign that offer sheet on the 11th.

Huntey
07-04-2012, 03:28 PM
Bottom line, if he really wants to play in Phoenix, then he's not touching that Suns offer sheet with a 100 foot pole. That's not what we're being told from a number of reporters and sources though. What we're being told is that there is a agreement to sign that offer sheet on the 11th.

If there wasn't an agreement to sign an offer sheet, what else would there be? How else is Gordon going to show that he's interested in playing elsewhere?

Of course there's an agreement to sign it but there's still a lot of time inbetween for things to happen. The offer sheet agreement is merely a way of showing his interest with the Suns.

Don't forget that he visited a couple of other teams before hand, and both of those teams would likely/did offer him max-money too. He also could have visited other teams later this week.

JeffG20
07-04-2012, 03:33 PM
the only other teams he visited were INDY (didnt give max to hibbert, doubt they'd max Gordon) and Houston (offered Martin, plus at least 2 draft picks they just drafted)

no one knows what the hell houston is doing but they might be a player later on

sunsfan88
07-04-2012, 03:41 PM
It doesn't matter if Houston wants him, he doesn't want Houston and New Orleans needs his permission before trading him.

I think a sign and trade will eventually happen between the Suns and Hornets.

Sad thing is all these Hornets fans are gonna be disappointed with what they get just like the Suns were disappointed with what we got for Joe Johnson.

JeffG20
07-04-2012, 03:43 PM
It doesn't matter if Houston wants him, he doesn't want Houston and New Orleans needs his permission before trading him.

I think a sign and trade will eventually happen between the Suns and Hornets.

Sad thing is all these Hornets fans are gonna be disappointed with what they get just like the Suns were disappointed with what we got for Joe Johnson.


they dont need jack **** if they wait a year, which they have to wait a year to be able to trade him anyway i believe.

and what possible way to you get him when it specifically states he can not be traded to the suns for the duration of his contract if he signs offer?

sunsfan88
07-04-2012, 03:48 PM
The Hornets haven't offered him a max deal. He knows the only way to get one from the Hornets is by getting another team to offer it. We offered 4 years 52 million.

I don't know why I have to say this so many times, it's 100% fact, but if Gordon signs that offer sheet his words were just hot air, words he said to get the Suns to offer him the max contract. If he signs it, he knows there is a 0% chance he's in Phoenix next year. If you don't believe me, look at the NBA CBA.

And it's also a 100% fact that if the Hornets match and keep Gordon, their gonna have a disgruntled player on their roster for the next 4 years killing their team chemistry and ruining the development of Anthony Davis & Austin Rivers.

If y'all match, Gordon would not allow the Hornets to trade him to some other team because he would hate the Hornets for matching and would not allow them to get anything of value for him.

So the Hornets are gonna end up stuck paying max $$ for a guy that wants out, playing like crap and ruining their team chemistry.

Yea, good luck with that bro :D

JeffG20
07-04-2012, 03:48 PM
your only hope is he doesnt sign it, which he already said he will

Huntey
07-04-2012, 03:48 PM
they dont need jack **** if they wait a year, which they have to wait a year to be able to trade him anyway i believe.

and what possible way to you get him when it specifically states he can not be traded to the suns for the duration of his contract if he signs offer?

It's been said: A S&T can still happen if no offer sheets are signed and matched.

JeffG20
07-04-2012, 03:49 PM
And it's also a 100% fact that if the Hornets match and keep Gordon, their gonna have a disgruntled player on their roster for the next 4 years killing their team chemistry and ruining the development of Anthony Davis & Austin Rivers.

If y'all match, Gordon would not allow the Hornets to trade him to some other team because he would hate the Hornets for matching and would not allow them to get anything of value for him.

So the Hornets are gonna end up stuck paying max $$ for a guy that wants out, playing like crap and ruining their team chemistry.

Yea, good luck with that bro :D

you do realize that after the first year is up, he no longer has the right to refuse where he's traded to? so

JeffG20
07-04-2012, 03:51 PM
It's been said: A S&T can still happen if no offer sheets are signed and matched.

its been said he agreed to sign it. its not set in stone but he's not playing for the 1 year QA for less money

sunsfan88
07-04-2012, 03:52 PM
they dont need jack **** if they wait a year, which they have to wait a year to be able to trade him anyway i believe.

and what possible way to you get him when it specifically states he can not be traded to the suns for the duration of his contract if he signs offer?

Even if you wait a year, you still need his permission to trade him I think.

And even if you don't, which team do you think is gonna give up good nice assets for a disgruntled player on an overpaid contract who the Hornets are trying to get rid of?

And I know Hornets can't trade him to us if they match it, that's why I think a trade will get done before Gordon signs the offer sheet.

But that's pure speculation on my part.

JeffG20
07-04-2012, 03:53 PM
Even if you wait a year, you still need his permission to trade him I think.
And even if you don't, which team do you think is gonna give up good nice assets for a disgruntled player on an overpaid contract who the Hornets are trying to get rid of?

And I know Hornets can't trade him to us if they match it, that's why I think a trade will get done before Gordon signs the offer sheet.

But that's pure speculation on my part.

no they dont, ill pull up the article again

JeffG20
07-04-2012, 03:55 PM
"Eric Gordon would have veto power on any trade for the next year. So, the idea of matching the offer sheet and sending him to Charlotte for MKG is nice and all, but Gordon would have to agree to go play for MJ. Not likely. After that year is up, the Hornets are free to trade Gordon anywhere without his consent until the final year of his deal."

sunsfan88
07-04-2012, 03:56 PM
Just out of curiosity, JeffG20, what are you expecting is fair value for Gordon?

Me and another Horners fan agreed last night that it would be something like Lopez, Marshall and a protected 1st for Gordon.

Huntey
07-04-2012, 03:58 PM
its been said he agreed to sign it. its not set in stone but he's not playing for the 1 year QA for less money

Of course he agreed to sign it. How else would he show his interest??? By whispering in their ear then running away, blushing, only to end up playing for the Hornets for the next 4 years?

And I don't mean signing the QO. Forget the offer sheet, If Gordon doesn't sign it, NO can still S&T him for max money. Yes he's said he'd sign the offer sheet but that doesn't mean a trade won't happen; a lot could go down in these next ten days. Nothing is signed untill it's signed.

JeffG20
07-04-2012, 04:00 PM
Just out of curiosity, JeffG20, what are you expecting is fair value for Gordon?

Me and another Horners fan agreed last night that it would be something like Lopez, Marshall and a protected 1st for Gordon.

i actually agreed it was a fair deal myself, but there is always 1 team willing to spend more and give a ridiculous amount. happens every year for teams getting a rental player.

what makes this really valuable is its a 3 year deal after that 1st year is up. teams are willing to spend more on a player that they know they'll have long term. and teams already apparently value him pretty highly with him getting max offers.

listen man, its not that i dont want him to go to the suns, its just i dont think they can realistically make it happen. the CBA pretty much prevents it unless like you said something is worked out before.

JeffG20
07-04-2012, 04:02 PM
Of course he agreed to sign it. How else would he show his interest??? By whispering in their ear then running away, blushing, only to end up playing for the Hornets for the next 4 years?

And I don't mean signing the QO. Forget the offer sheet, If Gordon doesn't sign it, NO can still S&T him for max money. Yes he's said he'd sign the offer sheet but that doesn't mean a trade won't happen; a lot could go down in these next ten days. Nothing is signed untill it's signed.

i totally agree, all we are saying is that we hold all the power If he does sign that. hell they can S&T before but they really dont have much incentive to

Huntey
07-04-2012, 04:12 PM
i totally agree, all we are saying is that we hold all the power If he does sign that. hell they can S&T before but they really dont have much incentive to

Oh yeah, you guys can match it obviously. But It comes down to do you want to pay Max money for an injury prone guard who doesn't want to be there? Phoenix obviously has no promblem witht he Injuries but If i'm NO i've got to be taking that into consideration.

I think a S&T would be best for all parties as the Suns get what they want, Gordon gets what he wants and NO get some value.

Which ever way you look at it, it's not going to be win-win for the Hornets. They just have to decide what the best way to be screwed-over is.

JeffG20
07-04-2012, 04:17 PM
but the thing is with the injuries do concern me, he's only 23 and never had a major injury. and they are never the same injury. he just has to find a way to take care of himself.

honestly the only thing he's looking for is max money, which he'll get. really if after 1 year they decide they want to go in a different direction, then ok. trading him a year from now gets more value then now.

the hornets are not winning anything now, doesnt make much sense to appease him at the moment.

Huntey
07-04-2012, 04:20 PM
but the thing is with the injuries do concern me, he's only 23 and never had a major injury. and they are never the same injury. he just has to find a way to take care of himself.

honestly the only thing he's looking for is max money, which he'll get. really if after 1 year they decide they want to go in a different direction, then ok. trading him a year from now gets more value then now.

the hornets are not winning anything now, doesnt make much sense to appease him at the moment.

I guess you're right, but an argument can be made for every possible situation. A good one at that.

Nobody except the involved parties know what's going on so I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

JeffG20
07-04-2012, 04:21 PM
agreed

thephoenixson28
07-04-2012, 04:35 PM
New York gets-Nash

Phoenix gets-Gordon,Douglas

New Orleans- J.R smith,Lin

JeffG20
07-04-2012, 04:36 PM
i sure as hell hope not

thephoenixson28
07-04-2012, 04:36 PM
i sure as hell hope not

Why not

sunsfan88
07-04-2012, 04:41 PM
New York gets-Nash

Phoenix gets-Gordon,Douglas

New Orleans- J.R smith,Lin

The Hornets can definitely get more.

I would be pissed if that's our best offer to them.

JeffG20
07-04-2012, 04:42 PM
Why not

lin i dont mind too much, but JR smith is kind of a headcase. he and Monty Williams would probably rip each other to pieces

thephoenixson28
07-04-2012, 04:45 PM
lin i dont mind too much, but JR smith is kind of a headcase. he and Monty Williams would probably rip each other to pieces

I was going to put jr smith to us. But I would think we are getting back to much.

JeffG20
07-04-2012, 04:47 PM
i read shumpert was in the deal, we'll take him instead of JR.

JeffG20
07-04-2012, 04:47 PM
New York gets-Nash

Phoenix gets-Gordon,Douglas

New Orleans- Shumpert ,Lin

fixed

thephoenixson28
07-04-2012, 04:49 PM
fixed

Deal

sunsfan88
07-04-2012, 06:15 PM
fixed

Looks good to me too :)

sunsfan88
07-05-2012, 04:51 AM
Looks like those Laker picks are gonna be put to use ;)

AI4MVP
07-05-2012, 04:57 AM
How awesome would Suns-Lakers games be if EG came to Phoenix? Nash vs Dragic. Kobe vs Gordon.

Mckphins
07-05-2012, 06:37 AM
Ummm the lakers would destroy the suns. Not very awesome

YoungOne
07-05-2012, 06:53 AM
Ummm the lakers would destroy the suns. Not very awesome

this :D