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Bklyn24
07-03-2012, 02:44 PM
as just reported by Broussard

https://twitter.com/Chris_Broussard/status/220226459535548417

justinnum1
07-03-2012, 02:47 PM
Brousard
Jeremy Lin will visit the Houston Rockets tomorrow, sources say.

Now we are getting some action, with dragic gone i can see houston offering a crazy contract to lin. Something like 4 years 30-40mil.

would cost the knciks 10+mil in years 3 and 4

marj987
07-03-2012, 02:47 PM
No one cares about this kind of news until dwill makes his decision, and Howard gets traded to whoever.

bowdown27
07-03-2012, 02:48 PM
I honestly don't see lin returning to the knicks. He will get a big deal somewhere else. It makes sense for him but so we will see what goes on.

Bklyn24
07-03-2012, 02:51 PM
fields to TOR, Lin to HOU. where does NYK look now?

justinnum1
07-03-2012, 02:52 PM
fields to TOR, Lin to HOU. where does NYK look now?

Looking like tony douglas.

Bklyn24
07-03-2012, 02:53 PM
Looking like tony douglas.

that experiment already failed the first time around..i would rather bibby

Knick_Fever
07-03-2012, 02:53 PM
Brousard

Now we are getting some action, with dragic gone i can see houston offering a crazy contract to lin. Something like 4 years 30-40mil.

would cost the knciks 10+mil in years 3 and 4

Knicks don't care about the money, if they can match then they will. I believe the Knicks will match anything between $10-12 mil range. After that they back out.

Knick_Fever
07-03-2012, 02:55 PM
Knicks don't care about the money, if they can match then they will. I believe the Knicks will match anything between $10-12 mil range. After that they back out.

* a year *

Cromedome
07-03-2012, 02:55 PM
We'll turn to Baron Davis for key veteran leadership and insight.

NYKnickFanatic
07-03-2012, 02:55 PM
Looking like tony douglas.

:laugh2:

justjames
07-03-2012, 02:57 PM
Knicks better match the Fields offer if they want to keep Lin.

nicegoing
07-03-2012, 02:57 PM
All these teams are stealing the Knicks players!

rhino17
07-03-2012, 02:57 PM
jonathan Feigen ‏@Jonathan_Feigen
The Rockets will offer a deal similar to the contract Dragic turned down, source said.

Knick_Fever
07-03-2012, 02:57 PM
Jeremy Lin will be the starting point guard for the NY Knicks when the 2012-13 season opens up. He isn't going anywhere, have fun with it for a few days but the obvious is there, he's a Knick for the next few years.

justinnum1
07-03-2012, 02:57 PM
feagan
The Rockets will offer a deal similar to the contract Dragic turned down, source said.

anyone know what that offer was?

Max.This
07-03-2012, 02:58 PM
Knicks understand that their stock will plummet if they lose Lin. It is a business and on the surface it looks like a loss, but Lin drives some serious dough in more so than Melo and stoudemire. I don't see them losing Lin

yanksrock
07-03-2012, 02:58 PM
This is turning ugly

king4day
07-03-2012, 02:59 PM
If Lin leaves and Nash goes elsewhere, the Knicks better begin persuing dealing Amar'e.

-Kobe24-TJ19-
07-03-2012, 02:59 PM
poor knicks

Knick_Fever
07-03-2012, 02:59 PM
jonathan Feigen ‏@Jonathan_Feigen
The Rockets will offer a deal similar to the contract Dragic turned down, source said.

If this is true, Knicks FO will laugh and tell other teams, "Come on you can do better than that"! The Knicks will match $8 mil in their sleep.

beardown78
07-03-2012, 02:59 PM
Damn may lose Lin,Fields and Shump out a good portion of the season. Not looking good

Htownballa1622
07-03-2012, 03:00 PM
Honestly. I don't want Lin.

rhino17
07-03-2012, 03:01 PM
feagan

anyone know what that offer was?

8 mil a year for 3 years I think

justinnum1
07-03-2012, 03:01 PM
Honestly. I don't want Lin.

I don't blame you lol



8 mil a year for 3 years I think


damn!!!! if new york matches that they would pay 14mil to lin in the third year of the deal. knicks gonna get hit with a tax bill of 50million in 2015 lol

justjames
07-03-2012, 03:01 PM
Honestly. I don't want Lin.

But China will vote him into the all-star game every single year he is physically able to play. Hell, they'll vote him in even if he isn't able to play. Didn't Yao get in when he was out for the season?

Knick_Fever
07-03-2012, 03:03 PM
feagan

anyone know what that offer was?

Well it was most likely less than $8 mil because thats what Phoenix is offering.

AKA TheMamba
07-03-2012, 03:03 PM
didnt the rockets waive him haha irony i guess

rhino17
07-03-2012, 03:03 PM
Morey offering Lin the same contract he offered Dragic is beyond insane


Well it was most likely less than $8 mil because thats what Phoenix is offering.

It was 8 but he says he want at least 10

Bklyn24
07-03-2012, 03:04 PM
If Lin leaves and Nash goes elsewhere, the Knicks better begin persuing dealing Amar'e.

amare is probably the most untradeable player in the league, i dont see one team that would take his uninsured contract

BKLYNpigeon
07-03-2012, 03:06 PM
Jeremy Lins not worth anything over 6-7 million. I hope he stays in NY.

TheWhiteMamba
07-03-2012, 03:06 PM
Wouldnt be surprised if Houston brings in Yao to help with negotiations.

Knick_Fever
07-03-2012, 03:06 PM
Honestly. I don't want Lin.

Wow, really? :face palm:

EDUTEXANS
07-03-2012, 03:06 PM
8 mil a year for 3 years I think

did Dragic really turn down a offer like that? who's gonna pay more?

justinnum1
07-03-2012, 03:08 PM
Wow, really? :face palm:

Hard to blame him. Lin is soo overrated. He had a nice stretch of 8 games against poor competition.

Htownballa1622
07-03-2012, 03:08 PM
But China will vote him into the all-star game every single year he is physically able to play. Hell, they'll vote him in even if he isn't able to play. Didn't Yao get in when he was out for the season?

I could care less about all star games. That helps business and revenue but me,a fan, wants to see my team compete which is why i want to tank to get better.

rhino17
07-03-2012, 03:09 PM
did Dragic really turn down a offer like that? who's gonna pay more?

The Suns

Htownballa1622
07-03-2012, 03:10 PM
Hard to blame him. Lin is soo overrated. He had a nice stretch of 8 games against poor competition.

This. I could name much better pgs than him. He was cut for a reason. Don't let a few good games overrate him.

I watched the heat take his lunch money.

ryang
07-03-2012, 03:11 PM
If im a knicks fan i would not want to match a contract that pays lin 8 mill per.. just sayin.. as a heat fan I will be happy if they sign lin (knicks) to a deal for 8 mill per.. just sayin.. no need to debate lin and his ability seeings how none of us know what he is...

Hawkeye15
07-03-2012, 03:14 PM
Morey would NEVER offer Lin $10-12 million a year, what are some of you smoking?

I would guess its over mid-level, so any capped team has no chance of offering better. $6 million a year range.

beardown78
07-03-2012, 03:15 PM
Hard to blame him. Lin is soo overrated. He had a nice stretch of 8 games against poor competition.

+1 very overrated, the way Miami played him in that first meeting you can see why he was cut so many times

Kashmir13579
07-03-2012, 03:16 PM
Hard to blame him. Lin is soo overrated. He had a nice stretch of 8 games against poor competition.

Yeah when he dropped 38 on Kobe, thats when i knew he was overrated. Or it might've been the daggers against Mavs and Toronto. Who knows? Somewhere along the line i just knew this kid was a hack.

KniCks4LiFe
07-03-2012, 03:18 PM
If I'm the Knicks I don't want to pay Lin 8+ million on the backload of his contract, but losing him hurts us immensely.

ryang
07-03-2012, 03:19 PM
it would hurt but 8 mill a year is dumb

nycsports2
07-03-2012, 03:19 PM
Jeremy Lin will be the starting point guard for the NY Knicks when the 2012-13 season opens up. He isn't going anywhere, have fun with it for a few days but the obvious is there, he's a Knick for the next few years.

this, im not even worried about losing lin

KniCks4LiFe
07-03-2012, 03:21 PM
Yeah when he dropped 38 on Kobe, thats when i knew he was overrated. Or it might've been the daggers against Mavs and Toronto. Who knows? Somewhere along the line i just knew this kid was a hack.

they better sign him. That's all I can say.

nycsports2
07-03-2012, 03:21 PM
Hard to blame him. Lin is soo overrated. He had a nice stretch of 8 games against poor competition.

lol ^ ...sure

Htownballa1622
07-03-2012, 03:22 PM
Yeah when he dropped 38 on Kobe, thats when i knew he was overrated. Or it might've been the daggers against Mavs and Toronto. Who knows? Somewhere along the line i just knew this kid was a hack.

Yeah I'm sure Kobe guarded him. No.try Derek Fishers trash @$$

jimm120
07-03-2012, 03:26 PM
jonathan Feigen ‏@Jonathan_Feigen
The Rockets will offer a deal similar to the contract Dragic turned down, source said.

and what did Dragic turn down?

oak2455
07-03-2012, 03:26 PM
Looking like tony douglas.

I really thought you were a bit smarter guess not they will match anything .... Stop trolling and go count how many people were at the Heat victory parade.... I counted 20

AddiX
07-03-2012, 03:27 PM
Rockets waived him, now want to pay him...

Need anymore proof they have no clue WTF they are doing?

jimm120
07-03-2012, 03:28 PM
but wait?!?!!?

Wasn't the plan with LIN to let the market set his price and match the offer???


WHy are poeple panicking all of a sudden? Because we lost Landry (and everyone knows why we lost Landry...cause Toronto wants to screw the Nash trade)? Might lose Nash because we lost Landry?

Hawkeye15
07-03-2012, 03:30 PM
Rockets waived him, now want to pay him...

Need anymore proof they have no clue WTF they are doing?

the Rockets are one of the best run teams in the league. Cmon, everyone missed on the guy. Everyone.

Htownballa1622
07-03-2012, 03:30 PM
Rockets waived him, now want to pay him...

Need anymore proof they have no clue WTF they are doing?

Because at the time they had two capable pgs?

Try Phoenix Who traded dragic AND a first to us for Brooks and now might want goran back for 10 mil a year after drafting a pg.

rhino17
07-03-2012, 03:32 PM
the Rockets are one of the best run teams in the league. Cmon, everyone missed on the guy. Everyone.

Because the past few years have clearly shown that :rolleyes:

The Rockets are not even one of the best run teams in Houston

Chronz
07-03-2012, 03:34 PM
Rockets waived him, now want to pay him...

Need anymore proof they have no clue WTF they are doing?

Ummm EVERYONE slept on the kid. New York didnt even know what they had until they were forced to play him.

The only proof you have shown is that you dont know what your talking about.

EDUTEXANS
07-03-2012, 03:34 PM
The Suns

after drafting Marshall? it would be a bad move IMO

justinnum1
07-03-2012, 03:35 PM
I really thought you were a bit smarter guess not they will match anything .... Stop trolling and go count how many people were at the Heat victory parade.... I counted 20

lmao, need to get your sight checked.

400,000 attend Miami Heat victory parade

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nba/2018528990_nba26.html

Nice try, good effort.

knicksfan42
07-03-2012, 03:35 PM
Yeah when he dropped 38 on Kobe, thats when i knew he was overrated. Or it might've been the daggers against Mavs and Toronto. Who knows? Somewhere along the line i just knew this kid was a hack.

But Dallas was game 9, wasn't it 8 games or something.



I really think it was the 19 (on 60% shooting), 6, and 7 back to back win against the Pacers that really solidified his status as an overrated scrub for me.

Hawkeye15
07-03-2012, 03:37 PM
Because the past few years have clearly shown that :rolleyes:

The Rockets are not even one of the best run teams in Houston

under the circumstances I think they are. But I understand Houston fans are seeking results only at this stage.

Jarvo
07-03-2012, 03:38 PM
Lin? :shrug:

rhino17
07-03-2012, 03:38 PM
after drafting Marshall? it would be a bad move IMO

they've already offered him more than the Rockets and Goran has now said he WILL NOT resign with us.

AddiX
07-03-2012, 03:38 PM
the Rockets are one of the best run teams in the league. Cmon, everyone missed on the guy. Everyone.

I'm not even sure if your being serious or not...

They put Lowry on the trade block, didn't trade him, devoted there loves to dragic, now they seem to be moving on from him for Lin who they waived.

Ps: they still have Lowry!

It's all good, I'm actually not as worried about the rockets as most my knick fans are, I see some chance for sign and trades here, and they have some players I wouod be glad to take on.

Ill21
07-03-2012, 03:39 PM
lmao, need to get your sight checked.


http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nba/2018528990_nba26.html

Nice try, good effort.

Wow 400,000. Over 1,000,000 attended this years giants Super Bowl parade.

rhino17
07-03-2012, 03:40 PM
under the circumstances I think they are. But I understand Houston fans are seeking results only at this stage.

I would disagree. The Texans and Dynamo have turned things around pretty quickly after having gigantic problems. The Rockets are more in the Astros category

topdog
07-03-2012, 03:42 PM
What is Morey up to? He either is just that much smarter than everyone or he's finally lost it!

ryang
07-03-2012, 03:42 PM
Wow 400,000. Over 1,000,000 attended this years giants Super Bowl parade.

NFL> nba what was the temp outside for the giants parade?? pretty sure it wasnt 100.. is this all you people really have??

Htownballa1622
07-03-2012, 03:44 PM
Wow 400,000. Over 1,000,000 attended this years giants Super Bowl parade.

Lol. Off topic but you realize they have different population sizes in the two different cities? Lmao

oak2455
07-03-2012, 03:46 PM
lmao, need to get your sight checked.


http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nba/2018528990_nba26.html

Nice try, good effort.

There is no way 400,000 lmao come on that's funny **** right there !!!!:clap:

GiantsSwaGG
07-03-2012, 03:46 PM
Rockets waived him, now want to pay him...

Need anymore proof they have no clue WTF they are doing?

:facepalm:

Chronz
07-03-2012, 03:46 PM
What is Morey up to? He either is just that much smarter than everyone or he's finally lost it!

Hes taking the risks you asked of him. Hes not going to overpay for Dragic but he will see if Lin can live up to the same deal despite a limited sample of play.

Gritz
07-03-2012, 03:47 PM
[QUOTE=Knick_Fever;22770536]Knicks don't care about the money.QUOTE]

Fareal?

justinnum1
07-03-2012, 03:47 PM
Wow 400,000. Over 1,000,000 attended this years giants Super Bowl parade.

cool, 400,000 people live in miami, 8million live in ny city.

That might have something to do with it, what do you think?

Ill21
07-03-2012, 03:47 PM
Lol. Off topic but you realize they have different population sizes in the two different cities? Lmao

I know lol, I was just being a dick.

justinnum1
07-03-2012, 03:48 PM
There is no way 400,000 lmao come on that's funny **** right there !!!!:clap:

lmao, proven wrong and thats what you post? :laugh2:

topdog
07-03-2012, 03:49 PM
Hes taking the risks you asked of him. Hes not going to overpay for Dragic but he will see if Lin can live up to the same deal despite a limited sample of play.

He certainly is making the offseason interesting and I can appreciate that. I hope McHale knows how to use Lin though... work on those on-ball screens.

Hawkeye15
07-03-2012, 03:53 PM
He certainly is making the offseason interesting and I can appreciate that. I hope McHale knows how to use Lin though... work on those on-ball screens.

and that left hand...

MagicHero3
07-03-2012, 03:55 PM
so where the hell will dragic and/or lowry end up?! crazy

goose14741
07-03-2012, 03:58 PM
you ppl spaz, they r just meeting. Lin wants to gauge market value. Knicks will match ANY offer.

driz
07-03-2012, 04:01 PM
Lowry > Lin any day.

Bigbadmoffo
07-03-2012, 04:02 PM
I thought I read somewhere that the Knicks could only match 25mil for 4 years and others the offer 40 mil back loaded could steal?

AddiX
07-03-2012, 04:03 PM
Lowry > Lin any day.

Which is why I said I don't mind if the rockets want to make a offer to Lin, well take Lowry all day.

justinnum1
07-03-2012, 04:04 PM
Lowry > Lin any day.

no question

driz
07-03-2012, 04:04 PM
Lin isn't worth anything near the money he's going to receive. You don't want to ever buy into a guy after hype like that.

Htownballa1622
07-03-2012, 04:06 PM
Which is why I said I don't mind if the rockets want to make a offer to Lin, well take Lowry all day.

Lol u won't take lowry at all..

U have nothing to offer.sorry.

JayAllDay
07-03-2012, 04:08 PM
I don't blame you lol





damn!!!! if new york matches that they would pay 14mil to lin in the third year of the deal. knicks gonna get hit with a tax bill of 50million in 2015 lol

Way to pull numbers out of your *******, *******.

AddiX
07-03-2012, 04:13 PM
Lol u won't take lowry at all..

U have nothing to offer.sorry.

If they don't want Lowry and they want Lin, we can simply match there offer, or they send us Lowry and both teams are happy. It's clear hou doesn't want to overpay, or dragic wouod be a rocket.

Or am I missing something here?

torocan
07-03-2012, 04:13 PM
The Rockets were offering Dragic between 8 and 9 million.

To give a similar deal to Lin it would need to be backloaded...

5/5/14 = $8m/year
5/5/13/13 = $9m/year

Dragic wants more like $10m+/year. And Lowry wants out of Houston... he'll get traded somewhere, most likely for pieces to support their PG.

The Rockets and Toronto are playing for keeps. And Grunwald is finding out what that means.

justinnum1
07-03-2012, 04:14 PM
Way to pull numbers out of your *******, *******.
Its called the CBA, learn it and you will be more knowledgeable

MLB2K10King
07-03-2012, 04:15 PM
But don't they already have two really good Point Guards?

justjames
07-03-2012, 04:32 PM
If the Rockets sign Lin, I think Lowry and Scola are getting traded to the Lakers for Pau.

JayAllDay
07-03-2012, 04:32 PM
Its called the CBA, learn it and you will be more knowledgeable

You know of the CBA? That's nice.

With no contracts to pay out, there won't be a luxury tax.
All the numbers you posted are nothing short of imaginary = pulled out of your *******.

It's called contracts. They're not just figures with dollar signs in front of it.

Htownballa1622
07-03-2012, 04:35 PM
If they don't want Lowry and they want Lin, we can simply match there offer, or they send us Lowry and both teams are happy. It's clear hou doesn't want to overpay, or dragic wouod be a rocket.

Or am I missing something here?

well then match the offer and get stuck with that contract but your f.o. is in no way giving us ultimatums about how we both can be happy.

i doubt they're worried if the knicks are happy or not. we could just retain lowry and force he and mchale to work and have the better cheaper pg here in houston.

nacdaddy
07-03-2012, 04:39 PM
Which is why I said I don't mind if the rockets want to make a offer to Lin, well take Lowry all day.

oh... thats how sign and trades work? we sign your inferior guard and yall match so then we send you our superior guard? it makes so much sense now.

you sir... are a moron.

teddygreen17
07-03-2012, 04:42 PM
Knicks will match just about anything..they need a point and I not trading Shump for Nash in a S&T...and they need the Garden buzz.

AddiX
07-03-2012, 04:49 PM
oh... thats how sign and trades work? we sign your inferior guard and yall match so then we send you our superior guard? it makes so much sense now.

you sir... are a moron.

If you guys want Lin that bad, and are that against overpaying than yes, it could work like that? When did rocket fans become such arrogant little girls?

Lin + rockets makes a lot of sense, rockets clearly don't want Lowry all that bad and they clearly don't want to overpay for anyone or else dragic would be there, Lin works in hou because of there ties to the Chinese community. Rockets also know well match just about anything.

Trading Lowry for Lin is a possibility, that's all I'm saying.

Now, if you guys could do the simple move of changing your tampon we can continue and talk like normal people.

koetravis
07-03-2012, 04:54 PM
If you guys want Lin that bad, and are that against overpaying than yes, it could work like that? When did rocket fans become such arrogant little girls?

Lin + rockets makes a lot of sense, rockets clearly don't want Lowry all that bad and they clearly don't want to overpay for anyone or else dragic would be there, Lin works in hou because of there ties to the Chinese community. Rockets also know well match just about anything.

Trading Lowry for Lin is a possibility, that's all I'm saying.

Now, if you guys could do the simple move of changing your tampon we can continue and talk like normal people.

Where did you hear that from? All the Rocket's are doing is simply meeting with Lin. And Lowry is way better than Lin so IF there was a sign and trade done, it would be for more than just Lin.

nacdaddy
07-03-2012, 04:59 PM
If you guys want Lin that bad, and are that against overpaying than yes, it could work like that? When did rocket fans become such arrogant little girls?

Lin + rockets makes a lot of sense, rockets clearly don't want Lowry all that bad and they clearly don't want to overpay for anyone or else dragic would be there, Lin works in hou because of there ties to the Chinese community. Rockets also know well match just about anything.

Trading Lowry for Lin is a possibility, that's all I'm saying.

Now, if you guys could do the simple move of changing your tampon we can continue and talk like normal people.

possiblity? yes. chances? Zero. rockets were dangling lowry for a fifth or 8th pick in the draft. theres no way lowry gets moved for the like of lin. lowry is the type of player you package around to get bigger fish. you can keep your minnow.

and your previous post doesnt imply a possibility. it implies a swap. maybe you should clarify your posts and maybe people wouldnt call you a moron.

Captain Moroni
07-03-2012, 05:00 PM
The same clown that says Lin is over rated is laughing that the Knicks are gonna lose him? Hmmm
Maybe the fact that the Bulls are gonna suck next year is getting to him/her a bit?
I guess when your life revolves around 12 hours of posting on PSD you know everything. PSD is the insider information. LOL

Htownballa1622
07-03-2012, 05:00 PM
If you guys want Lin that bad, and are that against overpaying than yes, it could work like that? When did rocket fans become such arrogant little girls?

Lin + rockets makes a lot of sense, rockets clearly don't want Lowry all that bad and they clearly don't want to overpay for anyone or else dragic would be there, Lin works in hou because of there ties to the Chinese community. Rockets also know well match just about anything.

Trading Lowry for Lin is a possibility, that's all I'm saying.

Now, if you guys could do the simple move of changing your tampon we can continue and talk like normal people.

lol. no one is getting all butt hurt. Thing is, you're making this ridiculous claim that the Rox want lin oh so bad so then we'd have to trade lowry.

we don't have to trade $$$$ to the knicks. if you'd like to overpay lin then go for it. I have ZERO idea why we'd want him besides for the marketing ploy that comes with it. i personally don't even want him back.

but to think you can get lowry for lin straight up is laughable.

and btw...rockets fans here aren't arrogant at all. we just laugh when the posters from your teams speak as if though morey is going to get caught in a deal. thats usually not how it works remember?

TheNumber37
07-03-2012, 05:00 PM
He's going to be a Knick. Simple. From a business standpoint, they CANNOT let LIN go. He's worth too much money. Also, Grunwald wanted to let the market set his value. If someone offers him a huge deal, they are overpaying. Lin had a run for a couple months, harldy worth more than 25 mil 4 years.

koetravis
07-03-2012, 05:02 PM
If the Rockets sign Lin, I think Lowry and Scola are getting traded to the Lakers for Pau.

Why?:confused:

AddiX
07-03-2012, 05:07 PM
lol. no one is getting all butt hurt. Thing is, you're making this ridiculous claim that the Rox want lin oh so bad so then we'd have to trade lowry.

we don't have to trade $$$$ to the knicks. if you'd like to overpay lin then go for it. I have ZERO idea why we'd want him besides for the marketing ploy that comes with it. i personally don't even want him back.

but to think you can get lowry for lin straight up is laughable.

and btw...rockets fans here aren't arrogant at all. we just laugh when the posters from your teams speak as if though morey is going to get caught in a deal. thats usually not how it works remember?

I said IF the rockets want him that bad.

And yes, you guys are getting butt hurt. So butt hurt in fact, that you can take the tampon out Break it half, and use one piece for the front and the other for the back.

All of you guys need to calm the f down, it's a idea, a discussion, a possibility, thats it! Go throw on your spandex and do a yoga class, you guys have problems.

arkanian215
07-03-2012, 05:09 PM
0a

DeyAce
07-03-2012, 05:15 PM
Lin to Dallas imo

Htownballa1622
07-03-2012, 05:15 PM
I said IF the rockets want him that bad.

And yes, you guys are getting butt hurt. So butt hurt in fact, that you can take the tampon out Break it half, and use one piece for the front and the other for the back.

All of you guys need to calm the f down, it's a idea, a discussion, a possibility, thats it! Go throw on your spandex and do a yoga class, you guys have problems.

lmao. as much as you claim we're getting bent out of shape we're really not. and tampon eh? hmm... what are we in high school? nice imagination though.

we understand its an idea(a farfetched one) but we're just tryna explain why thats not happening.

no problems here. maybe you should join us in our yoga class since WE'RE being oh so sensitive :p

AddiX
07-03-2012, 05:24 PM
lmao. as much as you claim we're getting bent out of shape we're really not. and tampon eh? hmm... what are we in high school? nice imagination though.

we understand its an idea(a farfetched one) but we're just tryna explain why thats not happening.

no problems here. maybe you should join us in our yoga class since WE'RE being oh so sensitive :p

It's all good man, but when I come iNto a thread simply to discuss something, or throw out a idea and people take shots or go in a completely disrespectful tone than I'm gonna fire back.

I guess I should be use to it by now which is why I rarely participate the NBA section too often.

heyman321
07-03-2012, 05:25 PM
Why do you Houstonites make it sound as if Kyle Lowry is Gary Payton in his prime???? I'm seriously confused about that. He's no better than Lin, except for defense and that's because Lin is below average and Lowry is just average. On the other hand, Lin is maybe 100 times more marketable and has way less experience, but isn't that far off already.

Htownballa1622
07-03-2012, 05:27 PM
It's all good man, but when I come iNto a thread simply to discuss something, or throw out a idea and people take shots or go in a completely disrespectful tone than I'm gonna fire back.

I guess I should be use to it by now which is why I rarely participate the NBA section too often.

naw i feel ya. we just thought the idea was kind of out in left field, especially how from the tone of the post it sounded like we'd HAVE to throw in lowry if y'all matched line offer.

but then again its just a sports forum so its all good bro.

Htownballa1622
07-03-2012, 05:28 PM
Why do you Houstonites make it sound as if Kyle Lowry is Gary Payton in his prime???? I'm seriously confused about that. He's no better than Lin, except for defense and that's because Lin is below average and Lowry is just average. On the other hand, Lin is maybe 100 times more marketable and has way less experience, but isn't that far off already.

we don't. but when you factor in how much lowry is making compared to what is thrown to lin based off of a two week stretch-its a big difference.

and lowry isn't just an average defender. he's one of the top defensive pgs in the league.

JasonJohnHorn
07-03-2012, 05:50 PM
Lin is going to be the starting PG on the all-star team next season... lol

justinnum1
07-03-2012, 05:57 PM
Lin is going to be the starting PG on the all-star team next season... lol

lol, might go down as the worst player to ever start in the all star game.

heyman321
07-03-2012, 06:06 PM
lol, might go down as the worst player to ever start in the all star game.

But the worst one to ever play in one would be Jamaal Magloire.

jimm120
07-03-2012, 06:14 PM
Wow 400,000. Over 1,000,000 attended this years giants Super Bowl parade.


Lol. Off topic but you realize they have different population sizes in the two different cities? Lmao

but isn't that the WHOLE POINT of the argument? More people? More fans?

Blitzace137
07-03-2012, 06:26 PM
lol, might go down as the worst player to ever start in the all star game.

Lin will average 16-17 with 6-8 assist next season IMO that would not be the worst all star ever. Damn your such a troll I'm sorry I just see you as the ultimate troll towards the Knicks.

justinnum1
07-03-2012, 06:27 PM
Lin will average 16-17 with 6-8 assist next season IMO that would not be the worst all star ever. Damn your such a troll I'm sorry I just see you as the ultimate troll towards the Knicks.

I just dont see it. I think maybe 7-8pts and 4 assists with a bunch of turnovers

goose14741
07-03-2012, 06:34 PM
Wtf? 7 to 8 points? Try 16 to 25 every night with 9.2 assists and 5 reb a game as a starter




Lin will average 16-17 with 6-8 assist next season IMO that would not be the worst all star ever. Damn your such a troll I'm sorry I just see you as the ultimate troll towards the Knicks.

I just dont see it. I think maybe 7-8pts and 4 assists with a bunch of turnovers

justinnum1
07-03-2012, 06:40 PM
Wtf? 7 to 8 points? Try 16 to 25 every night with 9.2 assists and 5 reb a game as a starter

:laugh2:

those are top 5 PG numbers...lin is not even top 20 pg imo.

Man you are letting a really small sample size vs inferior competition cloud your judgement.

meloman1592
07-03-2012, 06:44 PM
:laugh2:

those are top 5 PG numbers...lin is not even top 20 pg imo.

Man you are letting a really small sample size vs inferior competition cloud your judgement.

There are some people who think Lin is average...but you are the only person I've seen on PSD that thinks he's absolute garbage

justinnum1
07-03-2012, 06:46 PM
There are some people who think Lin is average...but you are the only person I've seen on PSD that thinks he's absolute garbage

I dont think he is garbage, i just dont think he is very good, certainly not as good as that poster who just said lin would avg 20/5/9

Donuts365
07-03-2012, 06:46 PM
dam knicks might lose jr nash lin fields all in one day sheesh

torocan
07-03-2012, 06:46 PM
:laugh2:

those are top 5 PG numbers...lin is not even top 20 pg imo.

Man you are letting a really small sample size vs inferior competition cloud your judgement.

And you could argue that you have no sample size to argue he'll put up 7-8 points either.

Even under Woodson he was putting up 14/6, and 17/7 post-Miami. AND his TO's went down substantially.

Saying he'll do 7/4 as a starter is just pure trolling, with no data to support it AT ALL.

ChitownBears22
07-03-2012, 06:57 PM
Lin will average 16-17 with 6-8 assist next season IMO that would not be the worst all star ever. Damn your such a troll I'm sorry I just see you as the ultimate troll towards the Knicks.

Bold/Blue- You are making assumptions not based on facts. Then you take that assumption and formulate an opinion (Bolded).

Who is the bias troll.

Lin going to Houston would be a big blow to NY. I don't think it will happen, I think there are too many revenue dollars at stake for NY to risk losing him. If they do end up having to do a 3 year backloaded contract the '15 season will be rough on them:

Amare -21 mil
Melo -21mil
Chandler -14mil
Lin- 10-13 mil

4 players would make up 66-69 mil of your roster and it wouldn't even be full.
What would be worse is if Lin didn't play up to par and the Knicks couldn't trade him. The backloaded deals are going to screw a couple teams in the future with these "upside" free agents.

And finally on the topic of Miami HEAT championship parade. Do people realize that 400,000 people showed up to a parade on a Monday for a team within a city that has a little over 400K population. I would say those are some good fans. Also why was this brought up by some butt hurt Knicks fan? This is PSD a forum where we talk about the NBA, NBA rumors, ect. This is a rumor, in fact I remember multiple threads about Nash to NY made my NY fans. Go in and read them and see how trollish they are. Knick fans (for the most part) call anyone who says "Nash will go elsewhere" idiots. And then talk about championships.

Knicks fans (for the most part) :facepalm::facepalm:

Mr.B
07-03-2012, 06:57 PM
did Dragic really turn down a offer like that? who's gonna pay more?

Yea I read that he's wanting $10 mil a year and wants to be a starter wherever he goes. The Suns might offer him that much. He's the guy I'm hoping the Mavs go after.

algreek3
07-03-2012, 06:58 PM
Knicks better match the Fields offer if they want to keep Lin.

Why? Lin has no choice if the Knicks match the offer.

ChitownBears22
07-03-2012, 07:03 PM
You know of the CBA? That's nice.

With no contracts to pay out, there won't be a luxury tax.
All the numbers you posted are nothing short of imaginary = pulled out of your *******.

It's called contracts. They're not just figures with dollar signs in front of it.

Are you drunk?

Here are some numbers for you:

Amare 21 mil
Melo 21 mil
Chandler 14 mil
Lin (potentially) 10-13 mil

That is 66-69 mil locked up between 4 players for the '15 season. Shump also has a team option that year for 1.6 mil I believe. Those are real numbers. So between 5 players you have $70 mil locked up. If they are truly set on being contenderes they will need a bench to help out the starters. That means full-mle and mini-mle type players. You would need 3-4 bench players to build a solid team that can compete. That would be $4-5 mil anually. Putting the sal cap at 86-90 mil. Which would be over the cap and could cost the Knicks 30-40 mil in luxury+salary of overcap players.

So no his numbers aren't made up. You, however, are in fantasy land if you think the Knicks would not go into LT if Lin got that contract for the year '15.

meloman1592
07-03-2012, 07:14 PM
I dont think he is garbage, i just dont think he is very good, certainly not as good as that poster who just said lin would avg 20/5/9

I'm not the biggest Lin fan myself but I think he's capable of 15 7 and 3

Blitzace137
07-03-2012, 07:14 PM
Bold/Blue- You are making assumptions not based on facts. Then you take that assumption and formulate an opinion (Bolded).

Who is the bias troll.

Lin going to Houston would be a big blow to NY. I don't think it will happen, I think there are too many revenue dollars at stake for NY to risk losing him. If they do end up having to do a 3 year backloaded contract the '15 season will be rough on them:

Amare -21 mil
Melo -21mil
Chandler -14mil
Lin- 10-13 mil

4 players would make up 66-69 mil of Syour roster and it wouldn't even be full.
What would be worse is if Lin didn't play up to par and the Knicks couldn't trade him. The backloaded deals are going to screw a couple teams in the future with these "upside" free agents.

And finally on the topic of Miami HEAT championship parade. Do people realize that 400,000 people showed up to a parade on a Monday for a team within a city that has a little over 400K population. I would say those are some good fans. Also why was this brought up by some butt hurt Knicks fan? This is PSD a forum where we talk about the NBA, NBA rumors, ect. This is a rumor, in fact I remember multiple threads about Nash to NY made my NY fans. Go in and read them and see how trollish they are. Knick fans (for the most part) call anyone who says "Nash will go elsewhere" idiots. And then talk about championships.

Knicks fans (for the most part) :facepalm::facepalm:


How am I being a bias troll are you kidding me? I'm basing my opinion on the. Numbers Lin put up as a starter this season which was around 17 and 6 so how am I being a troll if I'm giving you reasonable projections based on his starters numbers from last year. People saying he's going to regress to 7 points and 4 assist are the real trolls. Your the same guy that said Lin was one of the worst starters this year and in the same thread said he was a top 15 PG

ChitownBears22
07-03-2012, 07:17 PM
I'm not the biggest Lin fan myself but I think he's capable of 15 7 and 3

Those are more reasonable numbers. Now the question turns to. Is it worth it for a contract that has you pay 10-13 mil in the final year? Also can he fix the turnover issue? And how comfortable are you tying that much money up in a player with a very minute sample size?

A lot of tough questions for the Knicks. It would almost make more sense to go after a different PG like Dragic or Lowry if Houston offers up a big contract to Lin. Both Dragic and Lowry can put up better stats and have shown it over a longer duration. Also their price tags could be somewhat justified other than the concept of Lin bringing in media and marketing dollars.

ChitownBears22
07-03-2012, 07:22 PM
How am I being a bias troll are you kidding me? I'm basing my opinion on the. Numbers Lin put up as a starter this season which was around 17 and 6 so how am I being a troll if I'm giving you reasonable projections based on his starters numbers from last year. People saying he's going to regress to 7 points and 4 assist are the real trolls. Your the same guy that said Lin was one of the worst starters this year and in the same thread said he was a top 15 PG

Yes and I stick by that. I don't like the numbers he puts up and the turnovers he makes. I think he would be better suited for a backup/6th man role. I thought we covered that.

I am saying you are bias because you are making assumptions based off of nothing but pure opinion. If you base your opinion on what he did over the long run against playoff teams you will realize he is not a number 1 option. He has the potential to get there but is it worth locking up a long term contract? I don't think so. Especially one that would make him impossible to trade if he didn't pan out.

Also players can regress in their second year starting. It happens all the time, a player gets hot, and then teams have time to gameplan/study the player and a different tune is sung the following season. It is a buyer beware market on players that have limited gametime.

But in all honesty, I hope he is a Knick. It would put them in a very tight spot going forward.

YungQ89
07-03-2012, 07:50 PM
Too much? or?



Alex Kennedy: Houston's offer to Jeremy Lin may be three years, $24 mil or four years, $32 mil. It'll likely be backloaded, only way to steal him from NY.

ChitownBears22
07-03-2012, 07:51 PM
Too much? or?

Just enough money to put pressure on the Knicks FO to make a decision. We will really know if they trust him and think of him as a solid player or as just a media gimmick.

goose14741
07-03-2012, 07:58 PM
Wtf? 7 to 8 points? Try 16 to 25 every night with 9.2 assists and 5 reb a game as a starter

:laugh2:

those are top 5 PG numbers...lin is not even top 20 pg imo.

Man you are letting a really small sample size vs inferior competition cloud your judgement.

Ok dude, ppl dont tell me im wrong, its something that doesnt happen to me. if I say something its not only cuz I believe it, its most likely true. Ive watched lin play every game hes played and I know his talent. Lin is top 10 in the league and going up.

ChitownBears22
07-03-2012, 08:01 PM
Ok dude, ppl dont tell me im wrong, its something that doesnt happen to me. if I say something its not only cuz I believe it, its most likely true. Ive watched lin play every game hes played and I know his talent. Lin is top 10 in the league and going up.

Then why are you not a talent evaluator for an NBA team? Why is it that the majority of fans think Lin is average. The only people who don't think that are some Knicks fans.

What is that old saying about crazy people on a bus?

justinnum1
07-03-2012, 08:05 PM
Ok dude, ppl dont tell me im wrong, its something that doesnt happen to me. if I say something its not only cuz I believe it, its most likely true. Ive watched lin play every game hes played and I know his talent. Lin is top 10 in the league and going up.

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/200/420/BRTky.jpg?1321408042

Chronz
07-03-2012, 08:06 PM
I think Morey will end up regretting this one

AsfanSince99
07-03-2012, 08:14 PM
Morey offering Lin the same contract he offered Dragic is beyond insane



It was 8 but he says he want at least 10

What would be more insane is if the Knicks match the offer, which they prob would since they're a go-nowhere franchise.

ChitownBears22
07-03-2012, 08:15 PM
What would be more insane is if the Knicks match the offer, which they prob would since they're a go-nowhere franchise.

No they are a get booted in the first round team. Jesus, when will people get this right.