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justinnum1
06-30-2012, 09:24 PM
woj
Brooklyn and Atlanta are engaged in talks on a possible Joe Johnson trade, sources tell Y! Nets plan would be to pair with Deron Williams.

boom!

nickdymez
06-30-2012, 09:25 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA
Brooklyn and Atlanta are engaged in talks on a possible Joe Johnson trade, sources tell Y! Nets plan would be to pair with Deron Williams.

king4day
06-30-2012, 09:25 PM
Wow nets probably get a pick in this deal

B'sCeltsPatsSox
06-30-2012, 09:25 PM
Whoa. I wonder who would be in it. I'm guessing Lopez S&T and some more pieces.


Wow nets probably get a pick in this deal

Raps18-19 Champ
06-30-2012, 09:25 PM
C-Lopez
PF-Humpries
SF-Wallace
SG-Johnson
PG-Deron

Ryan328
06-30-2012, 09:26 PM
What would Atl want from Brooklyn's roster??

marj987
06-30-2012, 09:27 PM
Beat me to it damn it, but they are idiots trying to take on that enormous *** contract.

marj987
06-30-2012, 09:27 PM
brooklyn and atlanta are engaged in talks on a possible joe johnson trade, sources tell y! Nets plan would be to pair with deron williams.

Adrian woj.

justinnum1
06-30-2012, 09:28 PM
woj
Both Hawks and Nets are engaged in talks on several fronts. No deal close on Johnson, but sides have gone back and forth on possibility.

nets trying

NYG 2000
06-30-2012, 09:28 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA
Brooklyn and Atlanta are engaged in talks on a possible Joe Johnson trade, sources tell Y! Nets plan would be to pair with Deron Williams.

Lmfao, k wonder what will work out better trading the 6th pick for Wallace or trading pieces for Joe Johnson without a Williams extension

Vinny642
06-30-2012, 09:28 PM
Ewww JJ!!!

b@llhog24
06-30-2012, 09:28 PM
If this happens, Dwill should leave the Nets ASAP.

Cano-Montero...
06-30-2012, 09:28 PM
What would Atl want from Brooklyn's roster??

same question...lol

so this means brooklyn giving up on dwight?

DR_1
06-30-2012, 09:29 PM
:laugh:

B'sCeltsPatsSox
06-30-2012, 09:30 PM
same question...lol

so this means brooklyn giving up on dwight?

They'll clear out cap room by next summer IMO.

Raps18-19 Champ
06-30-2012, 09:30 PM
What would Atl want from Brooklyn's roster??

Marshon Brooks and picks. The Hawks want to rebuild and get rid of all bad contracts.

waveycrockett
06-30-2012, 09:31 PM
What would Atl want from Brooklyn's roster??

Joe johnson has the worst contract ever. You mean what ELSE they giving us

Vinny642
06-30-2012, 09:31 PM
Uh oh! Watch out for the Nets

IndyRealist
06-30-2012, 09:32 PM
Desparation.

waveycrockett
06-30-2012, 09:33 PM
If Al Horford aint included im not interested. JJ deal is disgusting.

hugepatsfan
06-30-2012, 09:33 PM
D-Will
JJ
Wallace
Humphries
Brook

Not a bad starting 5 at all IMO.

Punk
06-30-2012, 09:33 PM
Joe johnson has the worst contract ever. You mean what ELSE they giving us

So? He still is an all-star player. The Nets won't be giving up peanuts for him.

If this trade happens, that kind of means they give up on Dwight until he becomes or FA or something considering they would be attempting to re-sign Wallace too.

North Yorker
06-30-2012, 09:34 PM
This is pretty risky for the Nets. If they trade for him they cant amnesty him, and will be on the hook for over $89M for the next 4 years.

Vinny642
06-30-2012, 09:34 PM
D-Will
JJ
Wallace
Humphries
Brook

Not a bad starting 5 at all IMO.

Thats IF they resign Wallace, Humpries, and Brooks.....

Cano-Montero...
06-30-2012, 09:34 PM
They'll clear out cap room by next summer IMO.

they can probably do it if they dont land anymore bad contracts together with johnson and they dont resign wallace and other players for more than 1 year..

ugafan
06-30-2012, 09:35 PM
yay

Punk
06-30-2012, 09:36 PM
Not even sure why everyone is killing this potential trade. Brooklyn has 30+ in cap space. They can still keep Wallace if the Hawks are taking back Morrow.

Deron, Johnson, Wallace combo is beyond sexy for the short term. It kills the cap though. They'll be really really thin at PF and C considering Lopez would probably be taken back by ATL.

B'sCeltsPatsSox
06-30-2012, 09:36 PM
they can probably do it if they dont land anymore bad contracts together with johnson and they dont resign wallace and other players for more than 1 year..

They'll probably try to make some one year contracts to help clear some more cap room or trade players who are signed after 2013 for players who expire in 2013.

shep33
06-30-2012, 09:37 PM
Billy King... Just stop.

Why exactly would you do this? Signing Joe means zero cap flexibility if you hold onto Deron.

flatbush knicks
06-30-2012, 09:38 PM
omg silly king at it again

shep33
06-30-2012, 09:38 PM
Brooklyn:

Understand that Joe is still owed $90 million

Can a Nets fan please explain to me how Billy King gets away with this stuff?

ugafan
06-30-2012, 09:38 PM
There are 2 separate threads with 15 posts each. :laugh2:

waveycrockett
06-30-2012, 09:38 PM
So? He still is an all-star player. The Nets won't be giving up peanuts for him.

If this trade happens, that kind of means they give up on Dwight until he becomes or FA or something considering they would be attempting to re-sign Wallace too.

Its a smokescreen imo. No team would trade for JJ unless they were.getting back something crazy

Cano-Montero...
06-30-2012, 09:39 PM
problem is if they resign guys like wallace and lopez there dreams of dwight will be gone...

but a core of

Deron
JJ
Wallace
Hump
Brook

is a nice one...

KobeOwnSU
06-30-2012, 09:39 PM
oh my...

justinnum1
06-30-2012, 09:39 PM
interesting

greg_ory_2005
06-30-2012, 09:39 PM
I didn't even think this was possible!

Chill_Will_24
06-30-2012, 09:40 PM
This cant be true. Please god no. Trade your top 6 pick and then trade for the worst contract in the NBA smh this makes no sense unless they know they are losing Deron and need something to sell to Brooklyn

shep33
06-30-2012, 09:41 PM
Still think it's a horrible idea for Brooklyn. He's just trying to keep Deron happy, but at what cost? Yeah you might lose Deron, but with Deron + Joe taking up roughly $40 million of the cap alone, how exactly are you going to build a team in the long term?

*Silver&Black*
06-30-2012, 09:41 PM
What would Atl want from Brooklyn's roster??

Who cares, Joe is leaving.:clap:

Prob Brooks though

Teague
Brooks
??????
Smith (maybe trade him too)
Horford

topdog
06-30-2012, 09:42 PM
Desperate times...

Vinny642
06-30-2012, 09:42 PM
I dont think they have the cap room to get Wallace, Humpries, and Brook back while at the same time, getting JJ

Humpries is gonna get 8-9 million
Wallace-7 to 10 million
Lopez- 9-11 million

LOOTERX9
06-30-2012, 09:42 PM
omg silly king at it again

Brooklyn has no choice. They are desperate.

jmoney85
06-30-2012, 09:42 PM
they arent trading for joe johnson unless other pieces are coming to bk... like josh smith or al horford

Jarvo
06-30-2012, 09:42 PM
What in the blue black hell!?

topdog
06-30-2012, 09:42 PM
Oh, and welcome to New York :D

Cano-Montero...
06-30-2012, 09:42 PM
They'll probably try to make some one year contracts to help clear some more cap room or trade players who are signed after 2013 for players who expire in 2013.

if they resign brook, wallace and hump i dont think those guys would want 1 year contracts though...

shep33
06-30-2012, 09:43 PM
Who cares, Joe is leaving.:clap:

Prob Brooks though

Teague
Brooks
??????
Smith (maybe trade him too)
Horford

Man, I'm ecstatic for you guys if this comes true. Very seldom does a chance like this come along, the Hawks can rebuild way faster now.

marj987
06-30-2012, 09:43 PM
.

ugafan
06-30-2012, 09:43 PM
I dont think they have the cap room to get Wallace, Humpries, and Brook back while at the same time, getting JJ

Humpries is gonna get 8-9 million
Wallace-7 to 10 million
Lopez- 9-11 million

Who's gonna pay Wallace that much?

Raps18-19 Champ
06-30-2012, 09:43 PM
If I was a Nets fan, I'd love this deal.

IF you get JJ, resign Wallace and Lopez, Deron is guaranteed to come back probably and you'll be in the playoffs for the next 5 years.

Chill_Will_24
06-30-2012, 09:43 PM
Who cares, Joe is leaving.:clap:

Prob Brooks though

Teague
Brooks
??????
Smith (maybe trade him too)
Horford

Your crazy if you think we are trading one of our only trade assets to do ATL a favor by taking on the 2nd worst contract in the NBA (after Amare).

topdog
06-30-2012, 09:43 PM
I dont think they have the cap room to get Wallace, Humpries, and Brook back while at the same time, getting JJ

Humpries is gonna get 8-9 million
Wallace-7 to 10 million
Lopez- 9-11 million

Bird Rights. I don't know what the cap holds are, but they could potentially go over the cap with bird rights.

marj987
06-30-2012, 09:44 PM
Lol he's probably doing this to flatter D-Will. :rolleyes:

jmoney85
06-30-2012, 09:44 PM
I dont think they have the cap room to get Wallace, Humpries, and Brook back while at the same time, getting JJ

Humpries is gonna get 8-9 million
Wallace-7 to 10 million
Lopez- 9-11 million

king already said humps not coming back unless he takes a severe pay cut

Knicks21
06-30-2012, 09:44 PM
D-Will
JJ
Wallace
Humphries
Brook

Not a bad starting 5 at all IMO.

Or

Farmar
JJ
Damion James
Jordan Williams
Johan Petro

Cano-Montero...
06-30-2012, 09:44 PM
Who cares, Joe is leaving.:clap:

Prob Brooks though

Teague
Brooks
??????
Smith (maybe trade him too)
Horford

if im atlanta brooks, a future pick and 19 mil exception would make me happy...:clap::clap::clap:

*Silver&Black*
06-30-2012, 09:44 PM
Your crazy if you think we are trading one of our only trade assets to do ATL a favor by taking on the 2nd worst contract in the NBA (after Amare).

Well people call the Hawks fans crazy that Joe can't be traded either, but the Nets are making that interesting too so.......

marj987
06-30-2012, 09:45 PM
And JJ had a bad season last year compared to previous seasons.

marj987
06-30-2012, 09:45 PM
Possibly AMNESTY JJ!? :

Mr.B
06-30-2012, 09:46 PM
Let's see... if the Nets take on Joe Johnson's MEGA contract and end up resigning DWill to a max contract... that means say goodbye to any shot at getting Dwight Howard next year.

ugafan
06-30-2012, 09:47 PM
Your crazy if you think we are trading one of our only trade assets to do ATL a favor by taking on the 2nd worst contract in the NBA (after Amare).

If you keep him, he'd come off the bench most likely. JJ can play SF but I wouldn't play him there.

Punk
06-30-2012, 09:47 PM
Its a smokescreen imo. No team would trade for JJ unless they were.getting back something crazy
Maybe Deron takes less? Opens up for a Dwight trade down the road? *shrug*

But again, JJ is still going to produce but it could be a smokescreen to keep Deron's mind wandering about the Nets over Dallas.

Nikeman
06-30-2012, 09:47 PM
Can the two threads please be merged? :D

*Silver&Black*
06-30-2012, 09:49 PM
Can't JJ restructure? Maybe he takes an extra year to cut his pay each season for a D Will/Johnson/Dwight trio?

Vinny642
06-30-2012, 09:49 PM
king already said humps not coming back unless he takes a severe pay cut

I didn't know that, because a lot of people have him coming back to the Nets, and I don't really care to look lol

So its safe to say Humpries wont be a Net

BigBlueCrew
06-30-2012, 09:49 PM
Maybe Deron takes less? Opens up for a Dwight trade down the road? *shrug*

But again, JJ is still going to produce but it could be a smokescreen to keep Deron's mind wandering about the Nets over Dallas.

hehe nice :clap:

Punk
06-30-2012, 09:50 PM
devin kharpertian ‏@uuords
Billy King no longer wants to dole out bad contracts, he just wants to take on EVERYONE ELSE’S.
:laugh2:

He's getting killed on Twitter for this.

Vinny642
06-30-2012, 09:50 PM
I might be the only one, but I never was a fan of Jonhson's game, he is extremely boring, and really not THAT good...

nicegoing
06-30-2012, 09:50 PM
JJ is only going to get worse, and only going to be owed more money.

Jarvo
06-30-2012, 09:51 PM
:facepalm:

Mr.B
06-30-2012, 09:52 PM
Since Billy King likes bad contracts maybe if Deron decides to come to Dallas the Mavs and just do a sign and trade and send Haywood and Marion to the Nets in exchange for him.

Chill_Will_24
06-30-2012, 09:52 PM
Can't JJ restructure? Maybe he takes an extra year to cut his pay each season for a D Will/Johnson/Dwight trio?

When do players EVER do this??

Cracka2HI!
06-30-2012, 09:52 PM
They may be able to sign D-Will, trade for Johnson and have cap space to sign Dwight next season. I don't see how anyone could trade for contract tho.

flatbush knicks
06-30-2012, 09:53 PM
now that i think of it if the nets really believe deron is going to the mavs this isn't a bad move at all espeacially becuz d12 said he wants to go to brooklyn even if deron leaves for dallas

J4KOP99
06-30-2012, 09:54 PM
What would they be trading for Johnson?

*Silver&Black*
06-30-2012, 09:54 PM
When do players EVER do this??

Only needs to happen once, Joe is a nice person it seems.:rolleyes:

TylerSL
06-30-2012, 09:54 PM
IMO this is all Atlanta could get for Johnson because of his contract.

Atlanta recieves
Brooks+future 2nd

Brooklyn recieves
Joe Johnson

after that Brooklyn needs to do

Orlando recieves
Lopez+Marrow+2 future 1sts

Brooklyn Recieves
Dwight

Knicks21
06-30-2012, 09:54 PM
I might be the only one, but I never was a fan of Jonhson's game, he is extremely boring, and really not THAT good...

Hes good but he is just overpaid. And if you think his game is boring you have never seen Tim Duncan play haha.

topdog
06-30-2012, 09:54 PM
Let's see... if the Nets take on Joe Johnson's MEGA contract and end up resigning DWill to a max contract... that means say goodbye to any shot at getting Dwight Howard next year.

Not necessarily. If Lopez proves to be healthy and Dwight says he's leaving, then a deal could be struck.

Chill_Will_24
06-30-2012, 09:55 PM
now that i think of it if the nets really believe deron is going to the mavs this isn't a bad move at all espeacially becuz d12 said he wants to go to brooklyn even if deron leaves for dallas

You have zero credibility. Dwight has never even mentioned the Nets in any quote

gatkins11
06-30-2012, 09:55 PM
JJ can't restructure his deal.

reffahead
06-30-2012, 09:55 PM
New Jersey would trade us someone like Morrow and Petro and a future first. They could just tank next season get a top ten pick in a good draft and sign Dwight.

They could also trade Lopez for future picks.

*Silver&Black*
06-30-2012, 09:55 PM
What would they be trading for Johnson?

They could trade us a snickers bar and we would be happy. Nets will be a playoffs team (would help the 1st year of the move), and I think Hawks would still be one (if Smith and Horford are still on the team). So a win win.

LOOTERX9
06-30-2012, 09:55 PM
Still think it's a horrible idea for Brooklyn. He's just trying to keep Deron happy, but at what cost? Yeah you might lose Deron, but with Deron + Joe taking up roughly $40 million of the cap alone, how exactly are you going to build a team in the long term?


Yeah but they can't go into brooklyn with no stars on the team. that would be embarrassing . I don't blame Nets at this point for trying to get Joe

ugafan
06-30-2012, 09:56 PM
I might be the only one, but I never was a fan of Jonhson's game, he is extremely boring, and really not THAT good...

State the obvious. He's still a top 5-6 SG in the league and better than any of the other options the Nets have.

Vinny642
06-30-2012, 09:56 PM
Hes good but he is just overpaid. And if you think his game is boring you have never seen Tim Duncan play haha.

LOL TD is boring, true, but he a legend of them hook shots and off the glass shots lol

JJ is ehhhh...

*Silver&Black*
06-30-2012, 09:57 PM
IMO this is all Atlanta could get for Johnson because of his contract.

Atlanta recieves
Brooks+Peltro+2 future 2nd rounders

Brooklyn recieves
Joe Johnson


Believe me, this would be more than enough. Joe is a great player still, but 90 mil over the next 4 years vanishing from our cap is the main thing here. A young SG is just icing.

mamba24
06-30-2012, 09:57 PM
Not even sure why everyone is killing this potential trade. Brooklyn has 30+ in cap space. They can still keep Wallace if the Hawks are taking back Morrow.

Deron, Johnson, Wallace combo is beyond sexy for the short term. It kills the cap though. They'll be really really thin at PF and C considering Lopez would probably be taken back by ATL.

they have $30+ million cuz dwill and wallace both came off their books... they will have about $5 mill left if they resign wallace and dwill lol... they will be so far over the cap

Vinny642
06-30-2012, 09:58 PM
State the obvious. He's still a top 5-6 SG in the league and better than any of the other options the Nets have.

Well duhh, we ARE talking about the Nets here.... thats like saying if you add kobe on the knicks they can be contenders

Punk
06-30-2012, 09:58 PM
You have zero credibility. Dwight has never even mentioned the Nets in any quote

To be fair, neither did Melo or Chris Paul mention they truly wanted to play for NY and LA out of their own mouth. But their agents did all of the pumping.

Seems like Dwight's agent, Dan Fagan is pushing him to Brooklyn no matter who signs there.

ThunderousDemon
06-30-2012, 09:58 PM
D-Will
JJ
Wallace
Humphries
Brook

Not a bad starting 5 at all IMO.

If it's a trade then humphries might be part of the deal and didn't Wallace opt out to become a free agent?

Mr.B
06-30-2012, 09:59 PM
Believe me, this would be more than enough. Joe is a great player still, but 90 mil over the next 4 years vanishing from our cap is the main thing here. A young SG is just icing.

Damn! $90 mil over the next 4 years! That's just crazy! I'm hoping the Nets do this deal!

TylerSL
06-30-2012, 10:00 PM
Believe me, this would be more than enough. Joe is a great player still, but 90 mil over the next 4 years vanishing from our cap is the main thing here. A young SG is just icing.

wow I didnt know it was THAT bad lol. Let me go edit

Although I still believe they could a get a 2nd rounder as well.

Mr.B
06-30-2012, 10:01 PM
Possibly AMNESTY JJ!? :

The Nets already used their amnesty chip.

*Silver&Black*
06-30-2012, 10:01 PM
Wait, I lost count. I forgot how many years Joe has left on his contract. lol. Oh well, get this done and I don't have to.

Edit: my bad I think it's 80, but still 20 a year.

nicegoing
06-30-2012, 10:02 PM
If it's trade then humphries might be part of the deal and didn't Wallace opt out to become a free agent?
Humphries isn't under contract either, I believe.

Punk
06-30-2012, 10:03 PM
Just looking back, I still want to know who is the moron who signed JJ to that contract. I want to know how that negotiation process went.

Hawks: "We'll give him a deal of 90 million over 5 years with a ETO"

JJ's agent: "Joe has a deal in place with the New York Knicks"

Hawks: "Uhh...New York really?...Uhhh...120 million then!"

JJ's agent: "We'll take that offer"

Hawks: "YAy! We beat the big bad large market team!"

JJ's agent: "Umm...I lied, we had no deal with New York"

Hawks: "....Oh..."

ugafan
06-30-2012, 10:03 PM
Well duhh, we ARE talking about the Nets here.... thats like saying if you add kobe on the knicks they can be contenders

Then what are you saying?

ThunderousDemon
06-30-2012, 10:03 PM
Humphries isn't under contract either, I believe.

lol, If humphries isn't under contract either then the Nets seem to be in a ****ed up position, probably missionary.

netsgiantsyanks
06-30-2012, 10:04 PM
i wouldn't mind if he wasn't making so much ****ing money. if he does this, i might have to find him and kill him.

JOhnnyTHaJet
06-30-2012, 10:04 PM
**** that, unless they pay half that contract I don't want him on the Nets. He's a great player but his salary will rape us.

*Silver&Black*
06-30-2012, 10:05 PM
Just looking back, I still want to know who is the moron who signed JJ to that contract. I want to know how that negotiation process went.

Mr. Rick Sund, EX-GM of the Atlanta Hawks.

With this (hopeful) trade, meet the New GM of the Atlanta Hawks, Danny Ferry.

But seriously, I see why they did it. No way of getting LBJ, Wade, Bosh, so Joe was next. Afraid to not make the playoffs (even though I think Smith/Horford being the focus could be better for the team) they went in panic mode.

black1605
06-30-2012, 10:06 PM
I'm sure the Bobcats would be happy to help facilitate this by sending a bunch of expiring deals to the Hawks for Smith or Horford. ;) We could even throw in Tyrus to the Nets since they appear to be interested in awful contracts.

North Yorker
06-30-2012, 10:06 PM
Wait, I lost count. I forgot how many years Joe has left on his contract. lol. Oh well, get this done and I don't have to.

Edit: my bad I think it's 80, but still 20 a year.

He has $89.2M left over the next 4 years.

*Silver&Black*
06-30-2012, 10:07 PM
I'm sure the Bobcats would be happy to help facilitate this by sending a bunch of expiring deals to the Hawks for Smith or Horford. ;) We could even throw in Tyrus to the Nets since they appear to be interested in awful contracts.

I would give up anybody on my team for MKG, even Horford.;)

*Silver&Black*
06-30-2012, 10:08 PM
He has $89.2M left over the next 4 years.

Thanks alot, so yeah I was right the 1st time, 90 mil.:D

netsgiantsyanks
06-30-2012, 10:09 PM
they better be paying at least some of that money if a deal falls through.

Blazers#1Fan
06-30-2012, 10:09 PM
Not even sure why everyone is killing this potential trade. Brooklyn has 30+ in cap space. They can still keep Wallace if the Hawks are taking back Morrow.

Deron, Johnson, Wallace combo is beyond sexy for the short term. It kills the cap though. They'll be really really thin at PF and C considering Lopez would probably be taken back by ATL.

Wallace is on the decline thats why portland traded him and we got a #6 draft pick(Damian Lillard)

Cubby
06-30-2012, 10:10 PM
It's crazy that JJ would be going from the Atlanta Hawks to the new Atlanta Hawks.

Chill_Will_24
06-30-2012, 10:10 PM
To be fair, neither did Melo or Chris Paul mention they truly wanted to play for NY and LA out of their own mouth. But their agents did all of the pumping.

Seems like Dwight's agent, Dan Fagan is pushing him to Brooklyn no matter who signs there.

Possibly but WITHOUT Deron there? Ummm no...

shep33
06-30-2012, 10:12 PM
You know what? Trading for Amare is a better option financially... Can't believe I just said that.

JOhnnyTHaJet
06-30-2012, 10:12 PM
It's crazy that JJ would be going from the Atlanta Hawks to the new Atlanta Hawks.

The Hawks never had an established PG like Deron.

*Silver&Black*
06-30-2012, 10:12 PM
It's crazy that JJ would be going from the Atlanta Hawks to the new Atlanta Hawks.

lol, teams change. GMs don't.

ThunderousDemon
06-30-2012, 10:13 PM
You know what? Trading for Amare is a better option financially... Can't believe I just said that.

:speechless:

Sadds The Gr8
06-30-2012, 10:13 PM
What would Atl want from Brooklyn's roster??
something like Lopez & Brooks should get it done.

Vinny642
06-30-2012, 10:13 PM
Then what are you saying?

I AM SAYING..... its a bad move, they wont be a contender, his contract isnt good, this is a bad move :)

GayForDirk
06-30-2012, 10:14 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA
Brooklyn and Atlanta are engaged in talks on a possible Joe Johnson trade, sources tell Y! Nets plan would be to pair with Deron Williams.

I hope they do it and Deron goes to Dallas anyways.

flatbush knicks
06-30-2012, 10:14 PM
You know what? Trading for Amare is a better option financially... Can't believe I just said that.
:clap: get it done grunwald

justinnum1
06-30-2012, 10:15 PM
JJ is a #1 option now, he would be better as a #2 option i think but that contract is a killer.

MagicBucsSox
06-30-2012, 10:15 PM
Billy king for GM of the yr

*Silver&Black*
06-30-2012, 10:15 PM
Send Joe and Amare to the Nets. Help both Hawks and Knicks. Would be kind of good though with Deron for a year or so.

jrm2054
06-30-2012, 10:16 PM
dont want him as a net fan contract sucks

xxplayerxx23
06-30-2012, 10:16 PM
Send Joe and Amare to the Nets. Help both Hawks and Knicks.

Pg-Dwill
Sg-JJ
SF-GForce
PF-Amare
C-Lopez
Not bad at all lol

flatbush knicks
06-30-2012, 10:17 PM
Possibly but WITHOUT Deron there? Ummm no...
well thats probaly why they are talking to the hawks about jj just in case deron leaves hey idgaf if d12 goes to brooklyn just thinking outside the box

*Silver&Black*
06-30-2012, 10:17 PM
Ferry could get GM of the year before Free agency even starts.

BigBlueCrew
06-30-2012, 10:17 PM
Send Joe and Amare to the Nets. Help both Hawks and Knicks. Would be kind of good though with Deron for a year or so.

Would Waveycrocket be able to logon to PSD ever again if that happened?

hahahaha

KniCks4LiFe
06-30-2012, 10:18 PM
I don't buy it one bit. I think this is a really tough safety net. Another words if all else fails, they need a name and Johnson is healthy. I think this is smokescreen btw.

VinceCarter
06-30-2012, 10:18 PM
something like Lopez & Brooks should get it done.

Too much for Johnson and his contract now if it was for Josh Smith that sounds closer...

ThunderousDemon
06-30-2012, 10:18 PM
Every team should trade their bad players to the Nets because Billy King is a complete dunce to think that adding Joe will improve the team.

Cubby
06-30-2012, 10:18 PM
lol, teams change. GMs don't.

LOL you must be glad to possibly get rid of that contract.

EasternStar
06-30-2012, 10:20 PM
Hell yea! Would LOVE this deal, even though me and alot of Nets fans would hate to see Marshon go. The contract would bite *** also.

*Silver&Black*
06-30-2012, 10:21 PM
LOL you must be glad to possibly get rid of that contract.

I'm actually more happy we got a new GM. Sund is the one who made that signing happen.

Would really love new owners, but that JJ contract is the top basketball-related burden on the Hawks.

akagiredsuns
06-30-2012, 10:21 PM
Can we merge the two threads on this topic please so we can post in one thread?

*Silver&Black*
06-30-2012, 10:22 PM
Hell yea! Would LOVE this deal, even though me and alot of Nets fans would hate to see Marshon go.

Joe is still a very good player (still making the all-star team year after year), just that contract changes people's views of him. I want to rebuild, so more happy that it's looking that way.

Vinny642
06-30-2012, 10:23 PM
Too much for Johnson and his contract now if it was for Josh Smith that sounds closer...

You got a top 5 sig man, lol

oak2455
06-30-2012, 10:28 PM
Billy do it

kenzo400
06-30-2012, 10:28 PM
Deron should really rethink about signing with the Nets. If anything the Nets GM has proved so far is that he is "reactionary" with no real vision. He gave away a number 6 pick in this years draft to get Gerald Wallace to play 20 games and try to impress Deron, even though Williams didn't even play half of those games towards the end of the year lol

Now he's trying to get whatever he can without even thinking about long term effects. If they sign Johnson their cap situation would be messed up for years. In effect they would turn out to be the worse Atlanta Hawks of the future.

*Silver&Black*
06-30-2012, 10:29 PM
Funny enough, last season, Hawks fans always thought the Nets was the 1st team that could trade for Joe.

reffahead
06-30-2012, 10:29 PM
If you can convince Dwight in taking a small pay cut with Deron and Joe on board along with a lottery pick coming their way, I don't see why you wouldn't do it.

Deron, Joe, and Dwight along with a high draft pick and veteran signings for depth is a clear path over anyone.

jrm2054
06-30-2012, 10:29 PM
Deron should really rethink about signing with the Nets. If anything the Nets GM has proved so far is that he is "reactionary" with no real vision. He gave away a number 6 pick in this years draft to get Gerald Wallace to play 20 games and try to impress Deron, even though Williams didn't even play half of those games towards the end of the year lol

Now he's trying to get whatever he can without even thinking about long term effects. If they sign Johnson their cap situation would be messed up for years. In effect they would turn out to be the worse Atlanta Hawks of the future.

he traded the pick bc deron wanted vets not rookies he is a awful gm but the pick was traded bc of deron wanting it that way

bryan71023
06-30-2012, 10:30 PM
Since the Hawks are trying to cut off Joe Johnson then all they really want is expiring contracts. The Nets could easily just offer Jordan Farmar, Anthony Morrow, and Johan Petro which they are all expiring contracts combine total of $12 Million for Joe Johnson $18 Million. On paper the Nets look like at top 3 team in the East but man Johnson's contract is horrible I don't understand it especially since the Nets have MarShon Brooks hopefully Billy doesn't do this trade.

Cubby
06-30-2012, 10:30 PM
I'm actually more happen we got a new GM. Sund is the one who made that signing happen.

Would really love new owners, but that JJ contract is the top basketball-related burden on the Hawks.

Agreed. Hopefully everything works out.

dtmagnet
06-30-2012, 10:32 PM
Who the hell purposely trades for the worst contract in the NBA?

Dade County
06-30-2012, 10:34 PM
Desperation ...

Nets are trying to wait for Howard, D Will will not re-sign until he knows that this team can really compete. So the Nets are trying to make moves....

Orlando is pushing the Nets into a corner... not letting go of Howard early, so this forces D will to make a decision, and that decision might keep Howard away from brooklyn; so more trade opportunities might open up because brooklyn is out of the picture.

*Silver&Black*
06-30-2012, 10:34 PM
Who the hell purposely trades for the worst contract in the NBA?

I don't know, but a Deron/Joe/Dwight trio sounds pretty good.

netsgiantsyanks
06-30-2012, 10:35 PM
i seriously hope this trade doesn't fall through just because of the contract alone.

Chill_Will_24
06-30-2012, 10:36 PM
Billy do it

Hey Oak! Stop that foolishness right now!!!! How you gonna do me like that? Damn i know you wanna see DoMeFavors squirm on his Gerber but damn... thats just doing me too dirty

dtmagnet
06-30-2012, 10:37 PM
I don't know, but a Deron/Joe/Dwight trio sounds pretty good.

I don't see how they could get Dwight if they had a max Deron and Joe Johnson's bloated salary.

Chill_Will_24
06-30-2012, 10:38 PM
I don't know, but a Deron/Joe/Dwight trio sounds pretty good.

A Deron, ______, Dwight trio sounds just as good. You can put any scrub there and it would be a nice trio without having to pay that much money

kenzo400
06-30-2012, 10:38 PM
he traded the pick bc deron wanted vets not rookies he is a awful gm but the pick was traded bc of deron wanting it that way

But what was the point? They could have signed Gerald Wallce this summer if they threw enough money at him. The situation right now is not any different then at the trading deadline.

They basically gave Portland the sixth pick for Gerald Wallace to play 20 games for them in a pointless season.

*Silver&Black*
06-30-2012, 10:39 PM
A Deron, ______, Dwight trio sounds just as good. You can put any scrub there and it would be a nice trio without having to pay that much money

Joe isn't a scrub though. The salary just blindsides people. He is still an all-star SG.

vdaino
06-30-2012, 10:40 PM
Billy King.....who convinced that Nets owner to hire that clown. As a Philly fan I could not believe he got another GM job in the league. He would do something like this.

*Silver&Black*
06-30-2012, 10:40 PM
I don't see how they could get Dwight if they had a max Deron and Joe Johnson's bloated salary.


Can't they trade expirings like Morrow, etc for Johnson. Re-Sign Williams and then trade Lopez, picks for Dwight?

netsgiantsyanks
06-30-2012, 10:41 PM
the problem is that jj is getting paid like he's kobe bryant. 20 million a year for a player of his caliber is ****ing atrocious.

Cano-Montero...
06-30-2012, 10:41 PM
Since the Hawks are trying to cut off Joe Johnson then all they really want is expiring contracts. The Nets could easily just offer Jordan Farmar, Anthony Morrow, and Johan Petro which they are all expiring contracts combine total of $12 Million for Joe Johnson $18 Million. On paper the Nets look like at top 3 team in the East but man Johnson's contract is horrible I don't understand it especially since the Nets have MarShon Brooks hopefully Billy doesn't do this trade.

why would they want those contracts if they can trick King for only

JJ for Brooks and whooping 18 mil TE?

reffahead
06-30-2012, 10:42 PM
Look, Orlando is severely limited into what they could do if Joe and Deron are on the same team. He will be a Net, just a matter of time.

Knowing that, teams will not trade for Dwight except for pennies on the dollar. The nets will just be Charlotte bad but the top 3 draft pick and incoming Dwight is just wild timing.

What to do with Lopez is the question. Hell go ahead and trade us Lopez for an expiring Zaza Pachulia and a 2014 pick.

dtmagnet
06-30-2012, 10:43 PM
Can't they trade expirings like Morrow, etc for Johnson. Re-Sign Williams and then trade Lopez, picks for Dwight?

Salaries have to match in trades.

Cano-Montero...
06-30-2012, 10:43 PM
Can't they trade expirings like Morrow, etc for Johnson. Re-Sign Williams and then trade Lopez, picks for Dwight?

Brook is also a RFA and will demand a contract more than 8 mil...

Cano-Montero...
06-30-2012, 10:44 PM
Salaries have to match in trades.

it wont be needed for nets since they are under cap..

*Silver&Black*
06-30-2012, 10:45 PM
Salaries have to match in trades.

Morrow, Petro, Farmer, and a resigned FA is the rumor right now for Joe. They are also under the cap, they could pretty much eat Johnson's contract without trading anybody, so they save that with player swaps.

Dwight will prob be a Net anyway it goes. He has the power to walk next season. If Deron takes a LeBron type pay cut, as does Dwight, that could work. They would have to find a way to unload Lopez's contract in that situation though.

If James, Bosh, and Wade could do it, Deron, Joe, and Dwight on the same team could happen.

dtmagnet
06-30-2012, 10:45 PM
it wont be needed for nets since they are under cap..

Under the cap enough to take on a third max deal?

jrm2054
06-30-2012, 10:46 PM
But what was the point? They could have signed Gerald Wallce this summer if they threw enough money at him. The situation right now is not any different then at the trading deadline.

They basically gave Portland the sixth pick for Gerald Wallace to play 20 games for them in a pointless season.

i didnt say it was smart i hated the trade and never wanted wallace but king did for Deron and nets fans have to live with him as our gm even though we hate him

Punk
06-30-2012, 10:47 PM
Atlanta gets: Brooks, Morrow, Damion James, Farmar's expiring.

Brooklyn gets: Joe Johnson, Zaza, draft picks.

It can work. Dwight is the odd man out and he will have to walk to Brooklyn in order to make it happen.

PAOboston
06-30-2012, 10:48 PM
some of you guys are nuts. i know johnson's contract is necessarily representative of his value/talent but the guy is still a very good player. great shooter, physical player, and a matchup nightmare for 2 guards b/c he's on the bigger side for a 2 guard. he's a pretty damn good player imo. he's def not a #1 guy (like he is in atlanta) but with deron being the #1 in jersey, i think johnson is one heck of a #2.

kenzo400
06-30-2012, 10:49 PM
i didnt say it was smart i hated the trade and never wanted wallace but king did for Deron and nets fans have to live with him as our gm even though we hate him

I agree, but that's exactly my point. King is reactionary. Of course Deron wants to have the best team possible but he isn't a general manager. As a GM even in cases where you need to please your main star who is a free agent, it doesn't mean you just do whatever he says. Plus i think even a guy like Deron could see the logic behind not trading away a pick for a guy to play 20 games with you. Derons whole focus is not on how well the team played last year, seeing as how the vast majority of those players are free agents but what kind of team King can construct in the summer.

Cano-Montero...
06-30-2012, 10:51 PM
Under the cap enough to take on a third max deal?

if they only got JJ and Deron next year they would be still under the cap..have you check the nets salaries... Or maybe were talking about to different things here...

JJ will earn 21 mil next year.. lets assume deron gets 16 mil... those 2 combined would earn 37 mil..you still have 21 mil to spend... unless they resign brook, hump and wallace..

*Silver&Black*
06-30-2012, 10:52 PM
Right now, a Deron/Joe backcourt alone gets you into the playoffs, and that is prob what they are looking for in the first year of the team's "big" move. Revenue is a big part of the NBA. A playoff appearance in the Nets first year in Brooklyn.....then next summer Dwight takes a LBJ type deal to sign with the Nets.

kenzo400
06-30-2012, 10:52 PM
if they only got JJ and Deron next year they would be still under the cap..have you check the nets salaries... Or maybe were talking about to different things here...

JJ will earn 21 mil next year.. lets assume deron gets 16 mil... those 2 combined would earn 37 mil..you still have 21 mil to spend... unless they resign brook, hump and wallace..

Filling out a roster of 10 more players at least with only 21 million is not an easy thing to do. Plus, Deron is not going to make an average of 16 million. I think it will be somewhere around 18 million at least. Not sure what the max is right now, but it's definitely over 16 million.

imagesrdecievin
06-30-2012, 10:53 PM
if they only got JJ and Deron next year they would be still under the cap..have you check the nets salaries... Or maybe were talking about to different things here...

JJ will earn 21 mil next year.. lets assume deron gets 16 mil... those 2 combined would earn 37 mil..you still have 21 mil to spend... unless they resign brook, hump and wallace..

Hump and Brook's salary would be pretty easy to clear. Only way to dump Wallace's new(bloated) salary would be to stretch it.

Cano-Montero...
06-30-2012, 10:56 PM
Filling out a roster of 10 more players at least with only 21 million is not an easy thing to do. Plus, Deron is not going to make an average of 16 million. I think it will be somewhere around 18 million at least. Not sure what the max is right now, but it's definitely over 16 million.

its not easy to do but it can be attain and they could give vet guys 1 year deal or sign rookies for 1 year to save for dwight... nah i think the max would start at around 14-15 mil on the 1st year with 1-2 mil increase per year.. plus we dont know if deron might take a slight paycut..

Cano-Montero...
06-30-2012, 10:57 PM
Hump and Brook's salary would be pretty easy to clear. Only way to dump Wallace's new(bloated) salary would be to stretch it.

isnt brook a RFA? if a drunk team offer him more than 8 mil would the nets match it?

kenzo400
06-30-2012, 10:59 PM
its not easy to do but it can be attain and they could give vet guys 1 year deal or sign rookies for 1 year to save for dwight... nah i think the max would start at around 14-15 mil on the 1st year with 1-2 mil increase per year.. plus we dont know if deron might take a slight paycut..

I don't see Deron taking a paycut, and i'm saying 18 million because i'm thinking of the average. It's not just about next year but i'm not sure if King is too eager to go over the cap in two years from now.

I'm not saying it can't be done, but it would be very difficult. Plus, personally i doubt Hawks will trade Johnson for just expirings. They will probably at least ask for Marshon. In which case Nets will have nothing to trade for Dwight anymore.

*Silver&Black*
06-30-2012, 11:00 PM
Danny Ferry and Billy King were teammates at Duke and remain close friends.

Pretty good for both sides IMO. Hawks want to rebuild under Ferry's vision and King/Nets want to push for playoffs and try to lure Deron back.

jimm120
06-30-2012, 11:02 PM
C-Lopez
PF-Humpries
SF-Wallace
SG-Johnson
PG-Deron

I'll be honest...if the Nets can get that team for next year, they might be able to compete.

beasted86
06-30-2012, 11:04 PM
If the Nets can find a way to keep Deron, add JJ, AK47, and Dwight Howard... watch out. Sure, Johnson's contract is horrible. But if you turn junk and spare parts like Humphries, Petro, Farmar, etc... and can still work enough pieces to trade for Howard with Marshon and Lopez, that would be a steal.

PG: D. Williams / Kidd
SG: Morrow
SF: Johnson
PF: AK47
C:: Howard

justinnum1
06-30-2012, 11:04 PM
woj
Houston and Brooklyn were deep in discussions on trade for Luis Scola on Saturday, but talks fell apart before completion, sources tell Y!

jimm120
06-30-2012, 11:04 PM
I agree, but that's exactly my point. King is reactionary. Of course Deron wants to have the best team possible but he isn't a general manager. As a GM even in cases where you need to please your main star who is a free agent, it doesn't mean you just do whatever he says. Plus i think even a guy like Deron could see the logic behind not trading away a pick for a guy to play 20 games with you. Derons whole focus is not on how well the team played last year, seeing as how the vast majority of those players are free agents but what kind of team King can construct in the summer.

But i think the whole point of that Gerald Wallace trade was to show Deron that the Nets DON'T suck if the right pieces are added. Plus, its easier to sign someone if they're on your team.

Unfortunately for them, they still sucked after the trade and Deron, Lopez, etc got hurt.

*Silver&Black*
06-30-2012, 11:06 PM
Contracts aside, a Williams/Johnson backcourt is the biggest in the league.

kenzo400
06-30-2012, 11:08 PM
But i think the whole point of that Gerald Wallace trade was to show Deron that the Nets DON'T suck if the right pieces are added. Plus, its easier to sign someone if they're on your team.

Unfortunately for them, they still sucked after the trade and Deron, Lopez, etc got hurt.

But this is the problem. If i was Deron i would not be impressed by a GM that would do everything on my demand. Plus, if King could get Dwight in the summer and another top level talent i'm pretty sure Deron could see the potential of that team without having to play any games with them.

Mr.B
06-30-2012, 11:09 PM
if they only got JJ and Deron next year they would be still under the cap..have you check the nets salaries... Or maybe were talking about to different things here...

JJ will earn 21 mil next year.. lets assume deron gets 16 mil... those 2 combined would earn 37 mil..you still have 21 mil to spend... unless they resign brook, hump and wallace..

Lopez will likely want at least $10 a year to resign, or at least that's what it will take to keep him from signing with another team. That would leave the Nets with about $11 mil to fill out the rest of their roster.

cssdmark
06-30-2012, 11:17 PM
Nets should do sign and trade D Will for Amare and TD that would workout perfect for the Nets

xxplayerxx23
06-30-2012, 11:22 PM
3 team deal
ATL gets:Brooks, Lopez,
Nets get:Dwight,JJ
ORl:Smith,Nets future 1st, Atlanta future 1st Teague?
Lol I dont know atlantas plans at all , But i think NJ can possibly get both JJ and dwight

B'sCeltsPatsSox
06-30-2012, 11:22 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA
If the Nets don't do a deal for Joe Johnson, they're considering a significant offer for Memphis shooting guard O.J. Mayo, Y! sources said.


Nets want everyone!:laugh:

justinnum1
06-30-2012, 11:31 PM
cant say the nets aren't trying.

kenzo400
06-30-2012, 11:34 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA
If the Nets don't do a deal for Joe Johnson, they're considering a significant offer for Memphis shooting guard O.J. Mayo, Y! sources said.


Nets want everyone!:laugh:

Lol, i doubt King is this stupid. But then again, you never know

D2theJ
06-30-2012, 11:39 PM
Lol, i doubt King is this stupid. But then again, you never know

Why does everyone hate Mayo?

Blazers#1Fan
06-30-2012, 11:40 PM
If they get dwill dhoward joe johnson resign wallace and kris humpries

Howard
Humpries
Wallace
Johnson
Williams

Thats a nasty team can the nets and johnson restructer contract?

Blazers#1Fan
06-30-2012, 11:41 PM
Why does everyone hate Mayo?

One of my favorite players needs a james harden beard though

kenzo400
06-30-2012, 11:41 PM
Why does everyone hate Mayo?

He's a decent role player, but a significant offer? Sounds to me like it's more than the mid level.

GiantsSwaGG
06-30-2012, 11:42 PM
:laugh: A chucker with a bad contract....nice move

justinnum1
06-30-2012, 11:44 PM
hollinger
Despite what's been put out there, the Johnson/Scola Nets stuff seems much more likely to me were Williams to leave.

makes sense..

JerseyPalahniuk
06-30-2012, 11:44 PM
If they get dwill dhoward joe johnson resign wallace and kris humpries

Howard
Humpries
Wallace
Johnson
Williams

Thats a nasty team can the nets and johnson restructer contract?


That roster is not even possible under the new CBA no matter how much Johnson reconstructs his contract (which he can't). There would be absolutely no room for anyone else off the bench. Keep the number $58 mil in your head dude

bucketss
06-30-2012, 11:52 PM
:laugh:

:laugh: no clue but i busted out laughing on this

JOhnnyTHaJet
06-30-2012, 11:53 PM
:laugh: A chucker with a bad contract....nice move

Kinda like Melo?

bucketss
06-30-2012, 11:54 PM
Kinda like Melo?

:burn:

justinnum1
06-30-2012, 11:54 PM
Kinda like Melo?

:laugh:

Punk
06-30-2012, 11:58 PM
Kinda like Melo?

Melo >>> Joe Johnson. Nice try though. He deserved that one, lol.

JOhnnyTHaJet
07-01-2012, 12:01 AM
Melo >>> Joe Johnson. Nice try though. He deserved that one, lol.

I had to, I'm tried of these baiting comments and non sense spoken about the Nets.

Melo is a great player but he set himself up for that one.

fadedmario
07-01-2012, 12:02 AM
Why would ANYONE want that contract? The idea of Deron/JJ and a bunch of scrubs isn't even that attractive. The Nets future doesn't look so bright to me.

fadedmario
07-01-2012, 12:05 AM
Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA
If the Nets don't do a deal for Joe Johnson, they're considering a significant offer for Memphis shooting guard O.J. Mayo, Y! sources said.


Nets want everyone!:laugh:

If OJ Mayo's name wasn't OJ Mayo - he'd be no better than Ben Gordon in the eyes of fans. Mayo is as one dimensional as they come. Needs to be on a team that isn't expecting him to put up his rookie year numbers. Mayo has regressed every year he's been in the league.

If that doesn't tell you something then - wow. He's a mid-level talent - nothing more.

JOhnnyTHaJet
07-01-2012, 12:06 AM
Why would ANYONE want that contract? The idea of Deron/JJ and a bunch of scrubs isn't even that attractive. The Nets future doesn't look so bright to me.

Dude, they didn't even make a trade?

fadedmario
07-01-2012, 12:07 AM
Beasley/Mayo cut from the same cloth. Only deserve the mid-level but someone will end up paying Big-time for each.

GiantsSwaGG
07-01-2012, 12:07 AM
Kinda like Melo?

Yeah but worst & not on the same level like Melo!

More-Than-Most
07-01-2012, 12:07 AM
Just stupid by the nets if this happens.

Ty Fast
07-01-2012, 12:09 AM
What would Atl want from Brooklyn's roster??

if they could get jj's contract off the books they would take anything. like 90 mill over 4 yrs owed to him

GiantsSwaGG
07-01-2012, 12:09 AM
I had to, I'm tried of these baiting comments and non sense spoken about the Nets.

Melo is a great player but he set himself up for that one.

Actually I wasn't baiting....He is a chucker, so is Melo...But Melo is far better than Joe so that was kind of stupid comeback..

GiantsSwaGG
07-01-2012, 12:11 AM
Just stupid by the nets if this happens.

It's a stupid move but desperate times call for desperate measures...All in all at least the Nets are showing they're willing to do anything to keep Dwill and build a contender

Corey
07-01-2012, 12:12 AM
Joe Johnson's contract gets up to 24m/year towards the end.

A team would be dumb to take on that deal.

JOhnnyTHaJet
07-01-2012, 12:13 AM
Actually I wasn't baiting....He is a chucker, so is Melo...But Melo is far better than Joe so that was kind of stupid comeback..

Stupid comeback? They're both chuckers, they both have insane contracts. It makes sense.

And cmon man, I have nothing against you, but you know making those one liner comments is just the beginning of yet another Knicks Net feud.

GiantsSwaGG
07-01-2012, 12:17 AM
Stupid comeback? They're both chuckers, they both have insane contracts. It makes sense.

And cmon man, I have nothing against you, but you know making those one liner comments is just the beginning of yet another Knicks Net feud.

Yes but Melo is far better...

Like I said I wasn't baiting, I'll do the samething with my own team...JR a chucker and the Knicks would be stupid to resign...I would do the same...I don't have a problem with you or any Nets fan besides Waveycro, Domefavors and Justinnum1, but the Nets would be stupid to trade for this guy... His contract is next to amare for being one of the worst contracts in history.. The Nets can do better... Ray Allen should be on the top of the list for the Nets imo

Wolfman01
07-01-2012, 12:20 AM
I'm guessing the Nets will likely offer Brook Lopez, Marshon Brooks, Anthony Morrow, and future draft picks for Joe Johnson.

DragonJaii
07-01-2012, 12:24 AM
Nets are back

WickedBadMan
07-01-2012, 12:25 AM
Would be dumb. That sounds like one of those fifth seed teams that always gets bounced in the second round. Gotta hold out for Dwight.

*Silver&Black*
07-01-2012, 12:27 AM
Where is all this "Joe is a chucker" coming from? He is far from a chucker. He holds the ball far too long and iso alot when plays break down, but he isn't a Kobe/Melo "taking 30 shots a game" player. Joe has never been that. Maybe if he was a chucker, he would average more points and people would buy his shoes.

Punk
07-01-2012, 12:27 AM
I'm sorry but "Chuckers" or "chucker" is a stupid term. They're both scorers. Melo is far better.

A chucker would be someone like Josh Smith who can't make shots but continues to shoot shots without his range or a Micheal Beasley who had empty stats.That's where the true terminology comes from.

Joe Johnson simply is overpaid and isn't as good with his ability to score as Melo and some other guys but he is paid like it. That's the only issue.

In all games where Melo/Johnson didn't play for their respective teams, they sucked pretty damn bad. That's where you determine the difference.

The ignorance around here is annoying. Joe is overpaid for his age and the fact he can't take over games like a Kobe, Melo, LeBron scoring wise is the only reason why he gets criticism.

justinnum1
07-01-2012, 12:29 AM
jj is a 2nd option playing as a first option and being paid like a first option.

GiantsSwaGG
07-01-2012, 12:30 AM
I'm sorry but "Chuckers" or "chucker" is a stupid term. They're both scorers. Melo is far better.

A chucker would be someone like Josh Smith who can't make shots but continues to shoot shots without his range or a Micheal Beasley who had empty stats.That's where the true terminology comes from.

Joe Johnson simply is overpaid and isn't as good with his ability to score as Melo and some other guys but he is paid like it. That's the only issue.

In all games where Melo/Johnson didn't play for their respective teams, they sucked pretty damn bad. That's where you determine the difference.

The ignorance around here is annoying. Joe is overpaid for his age and the fact he can't take over games like a Kobe, Melo, LeBron scoring wise is the only reason why he gets criticism.

They're both chuckers....

KniCks4LiFe
07-01-2012, 12:34 AM
Where is all this "Joe is a chucker" coming from? He is far from a chucker. He holds the ball far too long and iso alot when plays break down, but he isn't a Kobe/Melo "taking 30 shots a game" player. Joe has never been that. Maybe if he was a chucker, he would average more points and people would buy his shoes.

Joe shoots no more than 17 shots per game. His worse shooting % is 37% in this past playoffs. Carmelo averaged 24 shots in the playoffs shooting 41%. IDK how Joe Johnson is considered a chucker either. :laugh2: His contract is horrible. That's all.

justinnum1
07-01-2012, 12:35 AM
nice

KB-Pau-DH2012
07-01-2012, 12:41 AM
Stefan Bondy:
Another thing about Atlanta GM Danny Ferry: his father works for the Nets as a scout 1 minute ago

JerseysFinest
07-01-2012, 12:42 AM
Lol, this is not happening. It's probably been discussed, but there is no way the Nets would take on Johnson. Think about it, getting Johnson significantly inhibits your ability to make roster changes going forward. In the event that Deron left, it wouldn't make sense to add his albatross contract into the mix. Makes no sense.

NetSymptom
07-01-2012, 12:45 AM
Lol, this is not happening. It's probably been discussed, but there is no way the Nets would take on Johnson. Think about it, getting Johnson significantly inhibits your ability to make roster changes going forward. In the event that Deron left, it wouldn't make sense to add his albatross contract into the mix. Makes no sense.

But when you say that, it implies that all of King's trades make sense.

JerseysFinest
07-01-2012, 12:46 AM
But when you say that, it implies that all of King's trades make sense.

Outside of the Wallace deal, he's done a solid job imo. But this is just a whole different level, I truly cannot see this happening. Makes no sense for the Nets, with or without Deron.

Punk
07-01-2012, 12:49 AM
This deal only happens if the Nets find out Dwight is an unrealistic possibility.

Punk
07-01-2012, 12:49 AM
This deal only happens if the Nets find out Dwight is an unrealistic possibility.

AddiX
07-01-2012, 12:51 AM
Lol, this is not happening. It's probably been discussed, but there is no way the Nets would take on Johnson. Think about it, getting Johnson significantly inhibits your ability to make roster changes going forward. In the event that Deron left, it wouldn't make sense to add his albatross contract into the mix. Makes no sense.

It doesn't make sense at first, but you need to realize, they can't show up to Brooklyn just w there current roster, they need to make a splash.

oak2455
07-01-2012, 12:52 AM
http://theteens.org/rt/content/222/7858e173_60b7f1.jpg

Is that legal

oak2455
07-01-2012, 12:53 AM
That's Dwight with his new account.... Freak

oak2455
07-01-2012, 12:54 AM
French guy wrong forum

oak2455
07-01-2012, 12:54 AM
Weirdo coming out tonight

NetSymptom
07-01-2012, 12:55 AM
Outside of the Wallace deal, he's done a solid job imo. But this is just a whole different level, I truly cannot see this happening. Makes no sense for the Nets, with or without Deron.

What has he done? He drafted Marshon, though I don't think too highly of Marshon. He signed Green, but I think that can be attributed to our scouting moreso than King.

Other than that, he hasn't done anything to make our team any better over his tenure as the Nets GM.

JerseysFinest
07-01-2012, 12:57 AM
What has he done? He drafted Marshon, though I don't think too highly of Marshon. He signed Green, but I think that can be attributed to our scouting moreso than King.

Other than that, he hasn't done anything to make our team any better over his tenure as the Nets GM.

So do you consider that bad or good? I don't think he made the team significantly worse than it was when Thorn left, but I don't think he transformed it into a title contender either.

JerseysFinest
07-01-2012, 12:59 AM
This deal only happens if the Nets find out Dwight is an unrealistic possibility.

This is really the only explanation for why this could even remotely make some sort of sense. I'm honestly baffled by this, but I guess I shouldn't be judging by who the Nets GM is.

NetSymptom
07-01-2012, 01:00 AM
So do you consider that bad or good? I don't think he made the team significantly worse than it was when Thorn left, but I don't think he transformed it into a title contender either.

Our team was significantly awful when Thorn left, so saying he hasn't made it significantly worse says absolutely nothing.

Fly
07-01-2012, 01:05 AM
I was afraid to click this, thought it might be porn :laugh2:

Anyways, can't see the Nets doing this unless Dwight is 100% out of reach

Vinylman
07-01-2012, 01:06 AM
why would NJ even think about this?

How many firsts would they get from the ATL?

they can't possibly be giving up picks

JerseysFinest
07-01-2012, 01:07 AM
Our team was significantly awful when Thorn left, so saying he hasn't made it significantly worse says absolutely nothing.
Fair enough.

At this point, I'm just trying to figure out if this is reality or if this is a dream. Because if this real life, King is either stupider than I thought he was, Deron Williams is leaving, or both.

Knicks21
07-01-2012, 01:11 AM
I honestly think the best way for the nets to build is through the draft, Im not a fan of the 'IF' game. But they could of had something close to a Favors, Kanter, Lillard core heading into Brooklyn. Its not fair to the fans, the amount of head spinning that has gone on, would of been better if the impatient Russian never came.

reffahead
07-01-2012, 02:15 AM
It's this simple, nets offer Farmar and Morrow and absorb the rest of Joe's contract for this year.

They offer Lopez, Brooks, snt Crash or Hump, a couple of future picks for Dwight. Still good value for DW considering the ever changing circumstances. You basically get a dynasty worthy core in one swoop.

aussie
07-01-2012, 02:20 AM
I take it Atlanta want cap relief to start rebuilding

Avenged
07-01-2012, 02:39 AM
The Nets are better off rebuilding.. Do not take on that contract, JJ is not even that good.

Antipod
07-01-2012, 02:46 AM
They want DH and jj?? NJ must trade their entire roster just to match the salaries. I don`t know how they`ll pull this off

D2theJ
07-01-2012, 09:59 AM
If OJ Mayo's name wasn't OJ Mayo - he'd be no better than Ben Gordon in the eyes of fans. Mayo is as one dimensional as they come. Needs to be on a team that isn't expecting him to put up his rookie year numbers. Mayo has regressed every year he's been in the league.

If that doesn't tell you something then - wow. He's a mid-level talent - nothing more.

The guy was averaging 18 ppg his first two years, shooting 45% from the field and over 80% from the line. Then all of a sudden Memphis decided to stop playing him. This guy has the offensive talent he just needs the opportunity. I think he'd be worth 7 or 8 million a year easily especially when he's only 24.

flimflamman
07-01-2012, 11:04 AM
I am Knicks fan so I want Brooklyn to make that trade. Makes Amare's contract look better.

Dankster
07-01-2012, 11:10 AM
Well to the Nets defense, they are trying to build a much better team than they've put on the court since Kidd left.

JJ's contract is probably the worst in the league, but the Nets are about to start their metamorphosis in a new city and arena, so it's imperative for them to start off on a winning note. The last thing they want is to have another losing season--for them to be considered a more lucrative site for FA's, they need to put a winning team together now.

2-ONE-5
07-01-2012, 11:17 AM
guess the Nets dont want Howard

ricomactaco
07-01-2012, 11:25 AM
JJ + DH + 3 scrubs = winning record

SeoulBeatz
07-01-2012, 11:27 AM
C-Lopez
PF-Humpries
SF-Wallace
SG-Johnson
PG-Deron

Pretty good lineup.

Gritz
07-01-2012, 11:28 AM
This is a win if ATL finds a way to unload that contract