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Il Mago50
06-30-2012, 12:28 PM
Who's your pick guys, I'm saying Waiters will probably get it because he will most likely start and his game translates into a lot of trips to the line and points. Thoughts?

nicegoing
06-30-2012, 12:29 PM
Anthony Davis, not even close!

NYG 2000
06-30-2012, 12:32 PM
Only real candidates imo: beal, Robinson or Davis

Obviously Davis wins tho

Il Mago50
06-30-2012, 12:32 PM
I don't think Davis excels next year, he will get pushed around in his first season. Picture what Thomas Robinson did to him and then picture that for 82 games and guys much better then Robinson.

Il Mago50
06-30-2012, 12:33 PM
Even Lillard could make some noise, I wouldn't be surprised. I haven't watch the guy play other then highlights but a great shooter who can penetrate and will start for Portland means he will put up pretty good numbers.

We_need_players
06-30-2012, 12:33 PM
Terrence Ross, dont laugh, he is somewhere where he will start and will be one of the guys on the offense that they will go to, Waiters might not even start and i doubt he averages more than 10 points, and anthony davis needs to gain a bit more weight, he will be more ready in 2 years

IndyRealist
06-30-2012, 12:35 PM
Davis, Beal, and Lillard will all start and play major roles.

Il Mago50
06-30-2012, 12:39 PM
Terrence Ross, dont laugh, he is somewhere where he will start and will be one of the guys on the offense that they will go to, Waiters might not even start and i doubt he averages more than 10 points, and anthony davis needs to gain a bit more weight, he will be more ready in 2 years

Doubtful, he won't start and he'll be 4th option if he's lucky.

Beal will have Nene, Wall, Crawford (who might start ahead of him) and others taking his shots.

Barnes could potentially break out but he is the 4th or 5th option on that team.

Robinson will probably average near double-double numbers but even he won't put up eye catching numbers.

Davis will struggle offensively in the first year.

Waiters has...Irving and...to take shots on that team. He has Daniel Gibson to compete with. He is a penetrating scorer who can shoot as well. I really don't see how he doesn't put up 13-15 a game.

Lillard will probably start and handles the ball the most obviously due to the position. He can shoot the lights out which pays off since Aldridge and Batum will suck in defenses and other then those two and Matthews, he really doesn't have huge competition for shots.

Thorough-Eye
06-30-2012, 12:40 PM
Mkg

xxplayerxx23
06-30-2012, 12:41 PM
Beal Or barnes.

RipCity32
06-30-2012, 12:41 PM
Im taking MKG I think he'll show leadership right out the gate in Charlotte

black1605
06-30-2012, 12:44 PM
Davis, and he will also be a top five DPOY candidate.

SeoulBeatz
06-30-2012, 12:45 PM
Anthony Davis is the easy pick.

Sleeper is Dion Waiters for me.

I see a lot of D Wade in him. I just think he's going to be a nightmare on offense next to Kyrie. People were saying the same negatives about Waiters as they did about Wade. But the explosiveness, streaky scoring ability, athleticism, handles, are all there.

B'sCeltsPatsSox
06-30-2012, 12:55 PM
Beal or Robinson.

JWO35
06-30-2012, 12:56 PM
Davis or Kidd-Gilchrist...since their teams are so bad, they will the ball

kobemelo
06-30-2012, 12:56 PM
surprised at how many ppl are saying Davis is a lock (or similar to that)..

question, how many of you Davis guys saw him play sporadicly or consistently throughout the year NOT including the tourney?

Sadds The Gr8
06-30-2012, 12:57 PM
Jonas Valanciunas

Fly
06-30-2012, 01:01 PM
Brad Beal or Thomas Robinson

Chacarron
06-30-2012, 01:02 PM
Robert Sacre or Anthony Davis, not really sure...

the_jon
06-30-2012, 01:03 PM
Jonas Valanciunas
This

koreancabbage
06-30-2012, 01:03 PM
I would go

1) Robinson/JVal
2) Robinson/Jval
3) Waiters
4) Davis

not Davis, he won't put up enough points to be considered. 10-12 points? but will be considered cuz of defense
MKG, not a scorer - should be good for 12-14 points
Beal, scorer, but WSH is stacked now, 15 points?
Waiters - dark horse- could get up to 17-20 points in Cleveland
Robinson- could be the WINNER here, plays a position where SAC totally is void of scoring- can hit threes and probably take some SFs in the paint. versatile scorer.
Lilliard - i would say he gets 12-15 points in Portland
Barnes - plays in an upbeat environment 15 points?
Ross- could put up 12-15- Raps need shooting and there will be wide open looks if Nash is there

JVal... he's probably more NBA ready than any big man and could up a fight for 15-10 season

fadedmario
06-30-2012, 01:05 PM
Waiters will be a bust.

My pick is Miles Plumlee

koreancabbage
06-30-2012, 01:07 PM
surprised at how many ppl are saying Davis is a lock (or similar to that)..

question, how many of you Davis guys saw him play sporadicly or consistently throughout the year NOT including the tourney?

he got pushed around by smaller rugged players in the NCAA

he will get pushed around by bigger, athletic players in the NBA

JoeDirt05
06-30-2012, 01:08 PM
Lillard

StarvingKnick22
06-30-2012, 01:08 PM
me or T-Rob

kenny781558
06-30-2012, 01:24 PM
Kostas Papanikolaou

GSRaider
06-30-2012, 01:30 PM
It's so early to say...

Anthony Davis - is most likely going to get starters mins and is the most talented player in the draft... So I can see him winning.

Draymond Green - depends on how many mins he gets... But I think Draymond is one of the most nba ready players in the draft... He's my dark horse pick.

topdog
06-30-2012, 01:38 PM
Beal. On a team full of defensive role players with limited offense and a guy like Wall to get him good looks, I like his chances. He also could have the good rookie on a playoff team thing going for him - breaking any sort of "tie" if someone else averages similar numbers.

Hawkeye15
06-30-2012, 01:56 PM
as a Wolves fan, I am physically not allowed to list Waiters, because he was a Syracuse guard.

I will go with Davis obviously, he will play 35 mpg and be a great defensive shot blocker right off the bat.

smith&wesson
06-30-2012, 01:57 PM
Jonas V.

13 ppg 10 rpg 1.5 blocks.

Hawkeye15
06-30-2012, 01:57 PM
Davis, and he will also be a top five DPOY candidate.

Davis is waaaaaaaaay too weak to be that great of an overall defender right away. Royce White abused him with size, he will get abused in the NBA by big strong interior scorers until he bulks up some. But he should contend for the blocked shots title.

smith&wesson
06-30-2012, 01:58 PM
jonas valanciunas

+1

Hawkeye15
06-30-2012, 02:00 PM
Beal. On a team full of defensive role players with limited offense and a guy like Wall to get him good looks, I like his chances. He also could have the good rookie on a playoff team thing going for him - breaking any sort of "tie" if someone else averages similar numbers.

I could see Beal as well, partly because I think this is the season John Wall steps up and shows some dramatic improvement finally, meaning Beal will not have to carry the team, and can slide into a very comfortable role as a high volume scoring guard.

fadedmario
06-30-2012, 02:02 PM
Too early to tell. Michael Kidd-Gilchrist would be my guess though. On a really bad team that needs someone to take control. He has leadership qualities. He could be good for them.

asandhu23
06-30-2012, 02:06 PM
If Harrison Barnes starts for the Warriors, he will win. It all depends on whether or not he starts.

Hawkeye15
06-30-2012, 02:09 PM
If Harrison Barnes starts for the Warriors, he will win. It all depends on whether or not he starts.

I can't figure Barnes out. He looks the part of a star, but didn't blow me away at UNC. I do think he will be a very nice SF however. Jackson showed he has no problem relying on rookies with Klay, hopefully he gives Barnes a ton of burn.

Jint.
06-30-2012, 02:13 PM
Beal dude

Tmath
06-30-2012, 02:14 PM
If Nash signs with Toronto, Valanciunas has a chance.

Phenomenonsense
06-30-2012, 02:17 PM
I think Barnes will be like the Klay Thompson of last year in the rookie race. Puts up good numbers, overshadowed by being at Golden State and their high tempo (which has lowered) offense. His intangibles won't impress and he won't get many looks despite the numbers being relatively good.

Rookie of the year depends on a lot of things though. Here is my thought process on some of the guys:

Robinson: Probably should win, and would win, at Bobcats or Cavs, but given Cousins, Tyreke, Thomas, and Thorton all being higher on the "option" list, he will fail to get the recognition he deserves.

Valancuinas: Dude has a great go to hook over his left shoulder. Should be great in his first year. Has a fiery will to win and a mean streak to match Pryzbilla's. (And not when he entered, I mean now.) If Toronto gets Nash, I say Valancuinas gets great rookie numbers through Nash's passing alone. Add to that the fact that Bargnani can't rebound and Valancuinas' numbers will look great.

Beal: My Second favorite behind Robinson in the "who should win" category, but with Nash possibly going to TO, and Robinson being hindered by his team, I feel like Beal won't win it. I think he's in a better position than Robinson but less of a position than Valancuinas. He won't get to use his full potential with Wall dominating the ball, but he won't be hindered by another shooter on that team. So he will be hurt and helped enough to break even.

BHF
06-30-2012, 02:20 PM
If Nash signs with Toronto, Valanciunas has a chance.

pick and roll Nash to Valanciunas :drool:

North Yorker
06-30-2012, 02:23 PM
If Nash signs with Toronto, Valanciunas has a chance.

This.

I think it comes down to Valanciunas and Beal.

xxplayerxx23
06-30-2012, 02:26 PM
Davis is going to average 15 IMO, Rivers will also be good off the bench, But for ROTY my guess Is barnes or Beal. Barnes Both will start

Lloyd Christmas
06-30-2012, 02:30 PM
I'm going Robinson in Sac.

TheRooki3
06-30-2012, 02:36 PM
Let's let them actually play in the league first

Hellcrooner
06-30-2012, 02:41 PM
Victor Claver..................................nah im joking. :D
ITs a one man show for Davis.

greg_ory_2005
06-30-2012, 05:13 PM
J Val.

justinnum1
06-30-2012, 05:13 PM
davis and it wont be close

KB-Pau-DH2012
06-30-2012, 05:14 PM
MKG-ROY!!!

Hopefully Davis turns out as a bust for the Vetos.

YouCan'tBeatLA
06-30-2012, 05:19 PM
Darius Johnson Odom. No, I'm not joking. :dance:

Jarvo
06-30-2012, 05:24 PM
Thomas Robinson or Damian Lillard

Yanks All Day
06-30-2012, 05:30 PM
Austin Rivers will take over the primary scoring role for New Orleans, even if Eric Gordon is still there and healthy. He is the most NBA scoring ready of any guard to come out of the draft with that first step and ability to finish in the lane and get to the line. People think he didn't have a good year at Duke, but in reality he was an NBA type of player in the prototypical college offense on a bad Duke team otherwise. A kid with Rivers' skill set and passion for the game just seems ready to be a star. I think he'll win the ROY.

SugeKnight
06-30-2012, 05:34 PM
I think Robinson has the best chance after Davis

SugeKnight
06-30-2012, 05:34 PM
J Val.

Sleeper

IAmARanger18
06-30-2012, 05:35 PM
Thomas Robinson

LRPG
06-30-2012, 05:47 PM
Toss up between D.Lillard and B.Beal

lavell12
06-30-2012, 06:56 PM
Rivers

Sinestro
06-30-2012, 07:05 PM
Homer Pick--Teague
Realistic Pick--MKG or Davis

Glen20
06-30-2012, 07:07 PM
Davis

Blitzbolt
06-30-2012, 07:09 PM
Teams with the Rookie of the year usually don't make the playoffs.

Vinny642
06-30-2012, 07:11 PM
I am going MKG since he is the most NBA ready, and he will play a big role in the team, other players that can do it are Robinson, Waiters, and possibly Beal

Sleepers- Lillard and Rivers

Vinny642
06-30-2012, 07:12 PM
MKG-ROY!!!

Hopefully Davis turns out as a bust for the Vetos.

Dude you are really sounding like a little whiny kid.... get over it, damn

bigsams50
06-30-2012, 07:13 PM
Maybe a little biased, but im going MKG. I think his all around game will be pretty solid.

Hawkeye15
06-30-2012, 07:32 PM
Austin Rivers will take over the primary scoring role for New Orleans, even if Eric Gordon is still there and healthy. He is the most NBA scoring ready of any guard to come out of the draft with that first step and ability to finish in the lane and get to the line. People think he didn't have a good year at Duke, but in reality he was an NBA type of player in the prototypical college offense on a bad Duke team otherwise. A kid with Rivers' skill set and passion for the game just seems ready to be a star. I think he'll win the ROY.

Absolutely not true. Gordon is a proven 20 a night scorer on nice efficiency. Rivers ceiling is maybe what Gordon does nightly.

Vinny642
06-30-2012, 07:33 PM
Absolutely not true. Gordon is a proven 20 a night scorer on nice efficiency. Rivers ceiling is maybe what Gordon does nightly.

I think Austin can get around 12-15 ppg as a rookie, regardless of Gordon's health

Corey
06-30-2012, 07:35 PM
Robinson and Beal will put up more impressive numbers than Davis in year 1 imo.

T.I.-KingofRap
06-30-2012, 07:35 PM
I think it will be Lillard

thekmp211
06-30-2012, 07:43 PM
davis, MKG, beal strike me as early favorites. im sure someone surprising will emerge but i think davis is going to be a shoe in barring injury.

xxplayerxx23
06-30-2012, 08:06 PM
Off topic but anthony davis is one ugly dude :P

ramz.n
06-30-2012, 08:06 PM
im going to say one of mkg or waiters or ross..these guys have a chance because they are lottery teams that need players to have an impact right away and they will get every opportunity to showcase there talents.

koreancabbage
06-30-2012, 08:21 PM
Davis will not be ROY

ROFL

he could possibly be the best pro in this draft, but the guy is gonna get dominated by all NBA centers/big including Kwame Brown. the guy is too light and skinny to be any type of force even if he is the main big in NO. esp this first year- reality check cuz being the tallest on the court doesn't mean jack in the NBA. not this year anyways.

i'm still saying he will be the best player when its all said and done but not his rookie year, ESP in NO, where he will everything to the NO in terms of interior defense/weakside help. which leads me to believing...

wouldn't be surprised if he made it on a lot of posters being dunked on this coming season as well

Losoway
06-30-2012, 08:22 PM
rookie of the year is another popularity trophy

Anthony davis and its not even close...they already comparing him to prime kg and duncan

Six-8-TheWizard
06-30-2012, 08:24 PM
Jonas Valanciunas

This x1000

Im somewhat of a homer though :D

koreancabbage
06-30-2012, 08:24 PM
rookie of the year is another popularity trophy

Anthony davis and its not even close...they already comparing him to prime kg and duncan

I think if one of these rookie guards/wing players puts up 20 points per, they will be rookie of the year.

raiderposting
06-30-2012, 08:27 PM
jonas/davis/beal/lillard/robinson all have shots and i think will be the all nba first team

Jonas-12.5 ppg,10rpg
Davis-14ppg,11 rpg, 3bpg
Beal- 16 ppg/5 assists/5rpg
Lillard-17ppg/6.5 apg
Robinson-12ppg/12rpg

sunsfan88
06-30-2012, 08:28 PM
Jared Sullinger. He will start alongside KG and Garnett will be a good mentor for him and help him with his defensive flaws while Rondo will heavily utilize Sullinger's skills.

Arch Stanton
06-30-2012, 11:22 PM
I think probably Davis...
Don't think MKG, but he will be a special player in a few years.
Beal has a great shot.
But I'm hoping Dion "Dwayne Wade" Waiters gets it done.
Andre Drummond is Kwame Brown 2.0

fadedmario
06-30-2012, 11:27 PM
I think probably Davis...
Don't think MKG, but he will be a special player in a few years.
Beal has a great shot.
But I'm hoping Dion "Dwayne Wade" Waiters gets it done.
Andre Drummond is Kwame Brown 2.0

Waiters is the worst pick in the draft. Cleveland failed once again. With Kwame 2.0 - we'll be in the playoffs before you guys. lol

FYI - we picked 9th, not 4th. :facepalm:

Glen20
06-30-2012, 11:31 PM
Waiters is the worst pick in the draft. Cleveland failed once again. With Kwame 2.0 - we'll be in the playoffs before you guys. lol

FYI - we picked 9th, not 4th. :facepalm:

aww detroit vs cleveland
how cute

fadedmario
06-30-2012, 11:33 PM
aww detroit vs cleveland
how cute

Yeah one franchise has three titles and one has never won anything and lost it's hometown star. At least Detroit didn't tank last year...

All tanking did was get you Waiters. He couldn't even start on his college team. Nice FO...

Glen20
06-30-2012, 11:34 PM
Yeah one franchise has three titles and one has never won anything and lost it's hometown star. At least Detroit didn't tank last year...

All tanking did was get you Waiters. He couldn't even start on his college team. Nice FO...

i wish my team got waiters :sad2:
oh that was Detroit's best shot? #wow

Arch Stanton
06-30-2012, 11:36 PM
Waiters is the worst pick in the draft. Cleveland failed once again. With Kwame 2.0 - we'll be in the playoffs before you guys. lol

FYI - we picked 9th, not 4th. :facepalm:

So what? Target the guys you want. We got a guy that was projected 7th, and another projected 11. I feel better about taking Waiters over Drummond at this point. But I have no idea how either will turn out. But looking at advanced stats Waiters fairs better. While Drummond thinks his game resembles Durant.
And congrats if you make the playoffs. I know it's unlikely for the Cavs who will be a lottery team next year.

fadedmario
06-30-2012, 11:38 PM
i wish my team got waiters :sad2:
oh that was Detroit's best shot? #wow

Started off 4-20 and finished 21-21. There was a story done last year and it said out of the Top 10 teams in the lottery, only 3 appeared to be not tanking. We were one - can you guess the other two? Stern should have done something last year. With certain teams it was blatant. #Shameful

Glen20
06-30-2012, 11:40 PM
Started off 4-20 and finished 21-21. There was a story done last year by Yahoo and it said out of the Top 10 teams in the lottery, only 3 appeared to be not tanking. We were one - can you guess the other two? Stern should have done something last year. With certain teams it was blatant. #Shameful

who cares if a team tanked?
a detroit fan should be the last person talking about sportsmanship

fadedmario
06-30-2012, 11:41 PM
who cares if a team tanked?
a detroit fan should be the last person talking about sportsmanship

:facepalm:

Arch Stanton
06-30-2012, 11:42 PM
Yeah one franchise has three titles and one has never won anything and lost it's hometown star. At least Detroit didn't tank last year...

All tanking did was get you Waiters. He couldn't even start on his college team. Nice FO...

Wow... Tanking really, what was Detroit then? Ill quote Byron Scott:

Jason Lloyd
Byron: "The fact he didn't start doesn't mean anything to me. The fact he finished is the biggest thing I look at." Added that the ball was in his hands at the end of games
a day ago

Glen20
06-30-2012, 11:42 PM
:facepalm:

don't throw a beer at me please

and why are you hating on dion waiters so much?
he's just as proven as Drummond is

fadedmario
06-30-2012, 11:44 PM
Wow... Tanking really, what was Detroit then? Ill quote Byron Scott:

Jason Lloyd
Byron: "The fact he didn't start doesn't mean anything to me. The fact he finished is the biggest thing I look at." Added that the ball was in his hands at the end of games
a day ago

Cleveland fans are defending their pick, which is expected. 99% of the world is laughing at your pick. #truth

Arch Stanton
06-30-2012, 11:45 PM
Started off 4-20 and finished 21-21. There was a story done last year and it said out of the Top 10 teams in the lottery, only 3 appeared to be not tanking. We were one - can you guess the other two? Stern should have done something last year. With certain teams it was blatant. #Shameful

Link?
If you think the Cavs were tanking you clearly missed that half the roster were D-Leaguers.

fadedmario
06-30-2012, 11:45 PM
don't throw a beer at me please

and why are you hating on dion waiters so much?
he's just as proven as Drummond is

Drummond got picked 9th when no one was still on the board. Not even close to the same situation. Waiters ceiling is Rodney Stuckey.

Glen20
06-30-2012, 11:45 PM
Cleveland fans are defending their pick, which is expected. 99% of the world is laughing at your pick. #truth

i wanted them to pick with drummond, but why should they be criticized for being behind their team?

Glen20
06-30-2012, 11:46 PM
Drummond got picked 9th when no one was still on the board. Not even close to the same situation. Waiters ceiling is Rodney Stuckey.

and drummond is kwane brown..
see how little our opinions matter

fadedmario
06-30-2012, 11:46 PM
Rodney Stuckey was supposed to be the next D-Wade too. Just saying..

Wade is more explosive than Waiters and Stuckey combined.

fadedmario
06-30-2012, 11:48 PM
and drummond is kwane brown..
see how little our opinions matter

:yawn:

Arch Stanton
06-30-2012, 11:50 PM
Cleveland fans are defending their pick, which is expected. 99% of the world is laughing at your pick. #truth

I have no idea how Waiters will turn out. But taking a guy at 4 who was projected 7 isn't that much of a stretch. If they didn't already have TT I would of thought they would grab T-Rob, and since they have Kyrie why would they take Lillard? So it came down to Barnes or Waiters.... And frankly Barnes isn't that impressive.
Not sure where the 99% is coming from... But if that's the way you feel then no pressure right.

Phenomenonsense
06-30-2012, 11:51 PM
Lol Mario don't argue with a Heat "fan" that joined 06/22/12.

fadedmario
06-30-2012, 11:52 PM
Lol Mario don't argue with a Heat "fan" that joined 06/22/12.

:laugh2:

Arch Stanton
06-30-2012, 11:54 PM
I will say that both Detroit and Cleveland are rebuilding with Detroit slightly further in the rebuild process. In a few years the rivalry will ignite again.

fadedmario
06-30-2012, 11:56 PM
I will say that both Detroit and Cleveland are rebuilding with Detroit slightly further in the rebuild process. In a few years the rivalry will ignite again.

I agree. You guys also have Kyrie. That's definitely a plus.

Phenomenonsense
07-01-2012, 12:00 AM
I will say that both Detroit and Cleveland are rebuilding with Detroit slightly further in the rebuild process. In a few years the rivalry will ignite again.

I have no ill will against the Cavs. There is no rivalry between bad teams. When we're both in the playoffs, that is when I will hate the Raptors and Cavs again.

Arch Stanton
07-01-2012, 12:02 AM
I have no ill will against the Cavs. There is no rivalry between bad teams. When we're both in the playoffs, that is when I will hate the Raptors and Cavs again.

Yep! I've never hated the Raptors though.

Wolfman01
07-01-2012, 12:21 AM
Anthony Davis and Bradley Beal.

Raps18-19 Champ
07-01-2012, 12:22 AM
Jonas Valanciunas.

Arch Stanton
07-01-2012, 12:24 AM
Jonas Valanciunas.

I wanted the Cavs to take him last year.

Glen20
07-01-2012, 12:25 AM
Lol Mario don't argue with a Heat "fan" that joined 06/22/12.

lol psd certainly is the centre of the universe

Fly
07-01-2012, 12:53 AM
I was also really impressed with Andrew Nicholson from St. Bonaventure. dude's a stud

keetyweedy
07-11-2012, 02:30 PM
Who do you think will have the best rookie year? I know some would think Anthony Davis will have it in the bag, but i honestly don't even think he will have better year than his teammate Austin Rivers....

but as far my prediction goes I got Bradley Beal

Forever35
07-11-2012, 02:34 PM
Sully

JoeDirt05
07-11-2012, 02:37 PM
Lillard

Toastyy
07-11-2012, 02:45 PM
MKG, he has the biggest opportunity and is gonna look good of they win more then 10 games

T.I.-KingofRap
07-11-2012, 02:51 PM
Drummond or Valanunias

Losoway
07-11-2012, 03:40 PM
Davis by far

he can play 30 games and still win it

mike44
07-11-2012, 03:46 PM
Davis, his defense alone could win it, add his efficient scoring and I see him taking it.

John Walls Era
07-11-2012, 03:55 PM
Davis, but sleeper pick is Jonas valanciunas

asap_simba
07-11-2012, 11:02 PM
Obvious front runner is Anthony Davis but Damian Lillard has a good shot.

Monta is beast
07-12-2012, 12:30 AM
Davis, Waiters, Barnes.

asandhu23
07-12-2012, 12:38 AM
Barnes. He will be starting on a Warriors squad which will need his scoring.

Byronicle
07-12-2012, 12:50 AM
no Valanciunas?

Pfeifer
07-12-2012, 12:54 AM
JVal is getting no respect. People are forgetting he is way ahead of any NCAA player having played pro ball, and already having experience playing against NBA players.

AndyfromNeptune
07-12-2012, 01:08 AM
I'm curious..can anyone argue against why the rookie of the year won't be Jonas Valanciunas?

I think he will make the most impact especially considering how experienced of a basketball player he is. Honestly, I do not think it will be that close either.


A couple other guys were mentioned here:

Lilliard: Not high ceiling but has a chance at making a quick impact as a rookie..I expect his career to go similar to Devin Harris's. At best 15 and 7 as a rookie.

Anthony Davis: Long term high ceiling..at best I can see him averaging 13, 10, and 2 blocks

Beal: I can see him averaging over 14 points as a rookie. The only drawback to him statistically will be the lack of shot opportunities with Nene and Ariza and Wall. At best, 17 ppg

MKG: Not much of a scorer..I see him making more of a defensive and intangible impact as a rookie. At best 13 ppg..2.5 steals

Dion Waiters: His game is very enigmatic..some say he is the next Dwayne Wade..others say he is a Rodney Stuckey type..I think he will fall somewhere in between the two. He will make an impact his rookie year with Irving in the backcourt. At best 17 ppg

Overall, I honestly think it will be Jonas Valanciunas of the Toronto Raptors. At best, I expect him to average 17 and 11 and 1.5 blocks in his rookie year.

RenegadeRiot36
07-12-2012, 01:09 AM
Cavs fan, but Waiters is going to be the second option on the team and playing next to Kyrie. Its harder for big men to get enough attention and with Waiter's scoring ability, i hope to see 2 Cavs players win ROY back to back. Has that ever been done before?

DeyAce
07-12-2012, 01:13 AM
MKG. Thats his team now

jtrinaldi
07-12-2012, 01:19 AM
Darius Johnson Odom, Kobe goes down DJO steps up and scores 20 per game

RipCity32
07-12-2012, 01:24 AM
I'm curious..can anyone argue against why the rookie of the year won't be Jonas Valanciunas?

I think he will make the most impact especially considering how experienced of a basketball player he is. Honestly, I do not think it will be that close either.


A couple other guys were mentioned here:

Lilliard: Not high ceiling but has a chance at making a quick impact as a rookie..I expect his career to go similar to Devin Harris's. At best 15 and 7 as a rookie.

Anthony Davis: Long term high ceiling..at best I can see him averaging 13, 10, and 2 blocks

Beal: I can see him averaging over 14 points as a rookie. The only drawback to him statistically will be the lack of shot opportunities with Nene and Ariza and Wall. At best, 17 ppg

MKG: Not much of a scorer..I see him making more of a defensive and intangible impact as a rookie. At best 13 ppg..2.5 steals

Dion Waiters: His game is very enigmatic..some say he is the next Dwayne Wade..others say he is a Rodney Stuckey type..I think he will fall somewhere in between the two. He will make an impact his rookie year with Irving in the backcourt. At best 17 ppg

Overall, I honestly think it will be Jonas Valanciunas of the Toronto Raptors. At best, I expect him to average 17 and 11 and 1.5 blocks in his rookie year.

That is a pretty bold prediction for Valanciunas 17pts 11 rebs 1.5 blocks,Does his guy have superstar potential or something I dont know much about him.

WhiteSoxGod
07-12-2012, 02:21 AM
Rookie of the Year: SG Jeremy Lamb

BURAKOBE
07-12-2012, 02:46 AM
Andre Drummond.

WhiteSoxGod
07-12-2012, 02:52 AM
Andre Drummond.

Rookie of the Year in the Developmental League, LOL.

StephenP
07-12-2012, 02:54 AM
Rookie of the Year: SG Jeremy Lamb

This

True Rocket
07-12-2012, 01:19 PM
Rookie of the Year: SG Jeremy Lamb

If Kevin Martin gets moved(which he likely will) this could be a possibility depending on what type of PG Houston has next year. If they have a pass first PG who feeds Lamb off screens he could have a really good rookie season. Not to mention outside of Scola/Martin, Lamb is the 3rd best scorer on the roster.

True Rocket
07-12-2012, 01:20 PM
But my pick is, Dion Waiters.

Silent
07-12-2012, 01:36 PM
Who's your pick guys, I'm saying Waiters will probably get it because he will most likely start and his game translates into a lot of trips to the line and points. Thoughts?

I agree with you Waiters is gonna be the steal of the draft

alexander_37
07-12-2012, 01:39 PM
I think Lamb will be a great 6th man behind Lee. Could be a Jason Terry type player this year.

central2003
07-12-2012, 03:08 PM
I think SOME people here are really under estimating Robinson. The Guy could have arguably been the number 1 draft pick and is considered the best pick behind Davis. With his work ethic, leadership, attitude, being NBA ready, and athleticism/BB IQ he will dominate for years to come. I t doesn't matter whether he is playing with Cousins and Evans because If things do work out the kings may very well have their own Big 3 in few years.

I believe this drat class will be a talented one but the true difference makers will be Davis and Robinson. That will be a debate for the coming years, who will actually be the best player of this draft ?

"I don't have to be the first pick, I just want to be THE BEST PICK" - Thomas Robinson

Ty Fast
07-17-2012, 12:40 AM
I think Brandon Beal will win it. Who do you say?

DerekRE_3
07-17-2012, 12:42 AM
I think Brandon Beal will win it. Who do you say?

I think Antoine Davis is gonna win it.

TylerSL
07-17-2012, 12:44 AM
whoever the Heat have :cool:

TylerSL
07-17-2012, 12:45 AM
Seriously tho, Anthony Davis.

j-bay
07-17-2012, 12:48 AM
Beal

deaner
07-17-2012, 09:04 AM
Jonas Valanciunas for me.

dalton749
07-17-2012, 09:20 AM
If anthony davis is actually being considered then valanciunas definitely should be as he is more NBA ready

GREATNESS ONE
07-17-2012, 09:22 AM
Mkg.

BSardogan
07-17-2012, 09:23 AM
Royce White. This guy is going to top Oscar Robertson for career triple doubles.

DitchDat
07-17-2012, 10:21 AM
I think Davis will average close to a double-double (like 13-9) and he will probably win it.

LongIslandIcedZ
07-17-2012, 10:22 AM
Mkg

WhiteSoxGod
07-17-2012, 10:35 AM
Jeremy Lamb

Dee_Edge
07-17-2012, 10:57 AM
If we are to call it 3 games into the Summer League I'd say Jeremy Lamb.....But Donatas Motiejunas may surprise some people. Either way, with White & Jones, Houston has the best rookie class in the league.....right now.

.....Davis will win it in years end though.

WhiteSoxGod
07-17-2012, 11:25 AM
If we are to call it 3 games into the Summer League I'd say Jeremy Lamb.....But Donatas Motiejunas may surprise some people. Either way, with White & Jones, Houston has the best rookie class in the league.....right now.

.....Davis will win it in years end though.

I have been saying this for 3 years well before he was drafted by the Rockets. Got to see the guy while I was on vacation several years ago and was ultimately impressed so much I think of it as an answered prayer when the Rockets spontaneously traded for him on draft night.

superior
07-17-2012, 11:54 AM
I think Brandon Beal will win it. Who do you say?


I think Antoine Davis is gonna win it.

LMAO!......honestly though, it could be several different players, depending on what role they are given and what they are asked to do right off the bat......but i think its a toss up between DAVIS, MKG, BEAL and T-ROB, nobody else is gonna outplay all 4 of these guys.

dalton749
07-17-2012, 12:11 PM
LMAO!......honestly though, it could be several different players, depending on what role they are given and what they are asked to do right off the bat......but i think its a toss up between DAVIS, MKG, BEAL and T-ROB, nobody else is gonna outplay all 4 of these guys.

Valanciunas is in the same conversation as any of these guys I'm going to cattleprod it onto everyones forehead so nobody forgets.
UT most likely mkg or Beal its usually a guard/wing because they're more NBA ready

FriedTofuz
07-17-2012, 12:26 PM
Jonas Valanciunas

He wont be playing that well right away. PLus he will be at least a 4th option behind bargnani, derozan and lowry's scoring

FriedTofuz
07-17-2012, 12:27 PM
Im gonna go with waiters, Theres not much scoring in cleveland anyways.

FriedTofuz
07-17-2012, 12:32 PM
I'm curious..can anyone argue against why the rookie of the year won't be Jonas Valanciunas?

I think he will make the most impact especially considering how experienced of a basketball player he is. Honestly, I do not think it will be that close either.


A couple other guys were mentioned here:

Lilliard: Not high ceiling but has a chance at making a quick impact as a rookie..I expect his career to go similar to Devin Harris's. At best 15 and 7 as a rookie.

Anthony Davis: Long term high ceiling..at best I can see him averaging 13, 10, and 2 blocks

Beal: I can see him averaging over 14 points as a rookie. The only drawback to him statistically will be the lack of shot opportunities with Nene and Ariza and Wall. At best, 17 ppg

MKG: Not much of a scorer..I see him making more of a defensive and intangible impact as a rookie. At best 13 ppg..2.5 steals

Dion Waiters: His game is very enigmatic..some say he is the next Dwayne Wade..others say he is a Rodney Stuckey type..I think he will fall somewhere in between the two. He will make an impact his rookie year with Irving in the backcourt. At best 17 ppg

Overall, I honestly think it will be Jonas Valanciunas of the Toronto Raptors. At best, I expect him to average 17 and 11 and 1.5 blocks in his rookie year.

even the raptors gm bryan colangelo says jonas wont have an impact right away. All big men take time. He wont be that polished to average 17 and 11..
too much hype

Lo Porto
07-17-2012, 12:35 PM
Mkg

Blazers#1Fan
07-17-2012, 12:38 PM
Doubtful, he won't start and he'll be 4th option if he's lucky.

Beal will have Nene, Wall, Crawford (who might start ahead of him) and others taking his shots.

Barnes could potentially break out but he is the 4th or 5th option on that team.

Robinson will probably average near double-double numbers but even he won't put up eye catching numbers.

Davis will struggle offensively in the first year.

Waiters has...Irving and...to take shots on that team. He has Daniel Gibson to compete with. He is a penetrating scorer who can shoot as well. I really don't see how he doesn't put up 13-15 a game.

Lillard will probably start and handles the ball the most obviously due to the position. He can shoot the lights out which pays off since Aldridge and Batum will suck in defenses and other then those two and Matthews, he really doesn't have huge competition for shots.

:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm: :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm: :facepalm: your joking right batum is great on defense one of the best at his position same with aldridge he shut down alot of other top PF's when they play

Dont watch much blazers huh?

but back to Lillard heres a rundown of him.....Lights out Shooter,Can drive(either hand either direction),Can get to the Line,has court vision and can find his teammates(doesnt show at Weber State though),alright on defense,one of the hardest workers sense Durant(many NBA scouts/teams said that),and is a big scorer i think he's the Guy nobody thought of as ROY but he will have the playing time to do so he's the next rookie PG like Irving,Wall,Westbrook i think he's gonna be 19-5 this year

FriedTofuz
07-17-2012, 12:38 PM
what Im surprised about is, Dion waiters and lillard, didnt seem to have a high draft value but kept rising. And Now they may both be potentially be the top rookies for the first year.

FriedTofuz
07-17-2012, 12:40 PM
Why are only raptor fans selling jonas valancuinas? The hype gets to peoples heads too much and are expecting him to be amazing right away? come on. He will be a very good player and possibly the best player from the 2011 draft over time, but he wont have an immediate impact ( says the gm and coach) yet raptor fans kept overhypeing him

dalton749
07-17-2012, 12:52 PM
I would expect 10 7 at best from him this year but somebody has to promote the team when they get nothing but negative attention from the American media

BSardogan
07-17-2012, 01:07 PM
:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm: :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm: :facepalm: your joking right batum is great on defense one of the best at his position same with aldridge he shut down alot of other top PF's when they play

Dont watch much blazers huh?

but back to Lillard heres a rundown of him.....Lights out Shooter,Can drive(either hand either direction),Can get to the Line,has court vision and can find his teammates(doesnt show at Weber State though),alright on defense,one of the hardest workers sense Durant(many NBA scouts/teams said that),and is a big scorer i think he's the Guy nobody thought of as ROY but he will have the playing time to do so he's the next rookie PG like Irving,Wall,Westbrook i think he's gonna be 19-5 this year

Lol :o

You might want to re-read his post the next time you want to reply with multiple facepalms and half a paragraph on something you misunderstood.

dalton749
07-17-2012, 01:12 PM
Hahahaha



Ha

AndyfromNeptune
07-17-2012, 01:26 PM
Over Jonas Valanciunas's career he has approximately averaged 1 point per every two minutes and 1 rebound per every 3 minutes of play.


If he gets 30 minutes a game as a rookie he could ideally average 15 and 10. Very respectable numbers for a rookie.

ghettosean
07-17-2012, 01:47 PM
Why are only raptor fans selling jonas valancuinas? The hype gets to peoples heads too much and are expecting him to be amazing right away? come on. He will be a very good player and possibly the best player from the 2011 draft over time, but he wont have an immediate impact ( says the gm and coach) yet raptor fans kept overhypeing him
I'm a raptors fan and I think Jonas will be in the talks for the award... Why not!?! I know what the coach and GM are saying but dude is a stud. Aside from being a little on the skinny side he's a blue collar centre which is just what this team has needed since Antonio Davis left Toronto (yes that long and I'm not going to count Rasho). We have not had a true centre in years and I can't wait to see this kid out of the gates.

He'll get his minutes (unless you think Gray will get it... lol). He will have his chance to prove himself... Yes he's a big man and they take longer to develop and blah blah blah (you are correct I won't sell you short) but after watching this kid I think he's the real deal... I personally do not think he will get ROY award but I do believe he will be in the talk when it comes down to it. The only thing I see stoping him is the language barrier between him and the coach but I think Linus will help close the gap on that.

After all that said I think MKG for ROY!

deaner
07-17-2012, 01:54 PM
Why are only raptor fans selling jonas valancuinas? The hype gets to peoples heads too much and are expecting him to be amazing right away? come on. He will be a very good player and possibly the best player from the 2011 draft over time, but he wont have an immediate impact ( says the gm and coach) yet raptor fans kept overhypeing him

I question your reading comprehension. Raptors management have said several times that JVal is not the raptors savior, that said there's a good chance he could start because he's a rookie who has been playing against professional for several years. He will have trouble staying on the floor because he needs to feel out nba fouls ( as all rookies do) Val will have every opportunity to succeed. He alone will not change the raptors fortunes... But compare him to other rookies and he has a very good shot at ROY. To say that you think the GM and coach said he will not have an immediate impact is completely false. They have been trying to temper people's expectations through the media. Look at his body of work for yourself.