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Jeffy25
06-28-2012, 07:14 PM
Any objections to this list?

P - Don Newcombe - .359/.395/.632 - .454 wOBA, 170 wRC+, 27 RC
C - Mike Piazza - 1997 - .362/.431/.638 - .454 wOBA, 183 wRC+, 142 RC
1B - Lou Gehrig - 1927 - .373/.474/.765 - .535 wOBA, 210 wRC+, 197 RC
2B - Rogers Hornsby - 1924 - .424/.507/.696 - .534 wOBA, 218 wRC+, 218 RC
3B - George Brett - 1980 - .390/.454/.664 - .479 wOBA, 200 wRC+, 121 RC (1999 Chipper Jones had 159 because Brett played in a strike shortened season)
SS - Alex Rodriguez - 1996 - .358/.414/.631 - .444 wOBA, 162 wRC+, 151 RC
LF - Barry Bonds - 2002 - .370/.582/.799 - .546 wOBA, 245 wRC+, 185 RC
CF - Ty Cobb - 1911 - .420/.467/.621 - .524 wOBA, 203 wRC+, 173 RC
RF - Babe Ruth - 1920 - .376/.533/.849 - .600 wOBA, 235 wRC+, 207 RC

Third base is hard, because the two best offensive rated seasons were both strike shortened. And the most productive seasons are debatable overall. Same with shortstop in the sense that you are heavily adjusting for eras.

Bonds and Ruth, pick a season, any season.

ShinobiNYC
06-28-2012, 08:04 PM
P as far as offense goes it should be Babe Ruth in 1918(.300 / .411 / .555 with 11 HRs and 66 RBIs in 95 games).

He went 13-7 with a 2.22 ERA that same year.

But everything else looks fine to me. I would personally put Mickey Mantle's 1957 season over Ty Cobb's:

The Mick in 1957: .365 / .512 / .665 / .504 wOBA / 221 wRC+ / 12.0 WAR

WadeKobe
06-28-2012, 08:13 PM
Give me Bags or Frank in '94.

dodgerdave
06-28-2012, 08:16 PM
What about Edgar Martinez for DH in 1995?

dodgerdave
06-28-2012, 08:18 PM
1981 was the strike-shortened year. But Brett in 1980 had just enough plate appearances to qualify.

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06-29-2012, 01:08 AM
For SS, I would have put one of Honus Wagner's years or Cal Ripken's 1991.

I'd also switch Barry Bonds 02' with Ted Williams' 1941 (.406 BA).

5pointer
06-29-2012, 10:54 AM
I think Bond's 2004 was better than his 2002.
.362/.609/.812 Ridiculous.

ugafan
06-29-2012, 10:57 AM
I'm not a Rangers fan, just pointing this out but Mike Napoli was incredible last year. His numbers were almost as good as Piazza's in 1997.

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06-29-2012, 02:19 PM
I'm not a Rangers fan, just pointing this out but Mike Napoli was incredible last year. His numbers were almost as good as Piazza's in 1997.

Look at the games played though. 113 vs 152 (An astronomical amount of games for a catcher)

Piazza's season is way ahead.

Jeffy25
06-29-2012, 03:19 PM
Any objections to this list?

P - Don Newcombe - .359/.395/.632 - .454 wOBA, 170 wRC+, 27 RC
C - Mike Piazza - 1997 - .362/.431/.638 - .454 wOBA, 183 wRC+, 142 RC
1B - Lou Gehrig - 1927 - .373/.474/.765 - .535 wOBA, 210 wRC+, 197 RC
2B - Rogers Hornsby - 1924 - .424/.507/.696 - .534 wOBA, 218 wRC+, 218 RC
3B - George Brett - 1980 - .390/.454/.664 - .479 wOBA, 200 wRC+, 121 RC (1999 Chipper Jones had 159 because Brett played in a strike shortened season)
SS - Alex Rodriguez - 1996 - .358/.414/.631 - .444 wOBA, 162 wRC+, 151 RC
LF - Barry Bonds - 2002 - .370/.582/.799 - .546 wOBA, 245 wRC+, 185 RC
CF - Ty Cobb - 1911 - .420/.467/.621 - .524 wOBA, 203 wRC+, 173 RC
RF - Babe Ruth - 1920 - .376/.533/.849 - .600 wOBA, 235 wRC+, 207 RC

Third base is hard, because the two best offensive rated seasons were both strike shortened. And the most productive seasons are debatable overall. Same with shortstop in the sense that you are heavily adjusting for eras.

Bonds and Ruth, pick a season, any season.

Depending on the bench....this team would score about 1250 runs on a season together.....and honestly maybe even more, because they would all get so many more plate appearances because the guys around them are making less outs.

bagwell368
06-30-2012, 02:19 PM
P as far as offense goes it should be Babe Ruth in 1918(.300 / .411 / .555 with 11 HRs and 66 RBIs in 95 games).

?????? Ruth appeared in 59 games in the OF, and 13 games at 1B. So sorry, he got most of his PA's elsewhere.


But everything else looks fine to me. I would personally put Mickey Mantle's 1957 season over Ty Cobb's:

The Mick in 1957: .365 / .512 / .665 / .504 wOBA / 221 wRC+ / 12.0 WAR

Me too. I always take the more modern player and also the non murderer when ever I can.

For 3B, I like the 1953 season of: Al Rosen

.336/.522/.613 in 155/156 games (688 PA) wOBA: .455 wRC+: 178 WAR: 9.4

Go ahead and start adding replacement value numbers for the missed games of Brett and Jones, and they are gone.

Chaser 3
07-01-2012, 02:06 PM
How about Hack Wilson's 1930 season? .355 AVG. 56 HR 191 RBI. he absolutely deserves to be on this list.

utl768
07-01-2012, 02:21 PM
I think Bond's 2004 was better than his 2002.
.362/.609/.812 Ridiculous.

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bagwell368
07-01-2012, 08:53 PM
How about Hack Wilson's 1930 season? .355 AVG. 56 HR 191 RBI. he absolutely deserves to be on this list.

1930 was one of the most pumped up offensive years in history. Once his numbers get EQ'd they are quite impressive, but not top of the list.

I believe Bill James dissed him by saying he wouldn't even be considered a prospect these days (back in the 80's is when he wrote it)