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Fresno
06-28-2012, 02:53 PM
The Utah Jazz have emerged as the potential third team in the Los Angeles Clippers' ongoing trade discussions to acquire Lamar Odom from the Dallas Mavericks, according to sources close to the process.

Sources told ESPN.com that the Jazz are willing to take on Mo Williams in a three-team trade scenario that would send Odom to the Clippers and enable the Mavericks to shed Odom's salary without taking back any salary.

The ball now is now in Williams' court. The trade cannot be completed unless Williams agrees to invoke his $8.5 million player option for next season by Saturday's deadline, which means that the 29-year-old is essentially deciding if he wants to return to the Jazz where he began his career in 2003-04 -- or test free agency this summer.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8108044/sources-utah-jazz-help-lamar-odom-los-angeles-clippers-deal


This deal has nothing to do with the draft but would need to be completed by Friday because of Odom's contract issues
http://twitter.com/Lockedonsports/statuses/218416101925724160


Good deal for all 3 teams if it goes down.

Im guessing the Mavs really do feel strongly that Deron is coming to turn down Mo Williams.

Hawkeye15
06-28-2012, 03:00 PM
I really don't dig the deal for the Jazz.

marj987
06-28-2012, 03:02 PM
No, we just know we can work out BETTER deals for a point guard. Than to take on Mo's salary, but this is a fair deal.....except for the jazz.

iam brett favre
06-28-2012, 03:02 PM
So it's esentially Mo Williams for nothing?

RLundi
06-28-2012, 03:02 PM
I don't think Mavs not wanting Mo Williams is any indication on how they feel their chances are for D-Will.

I just think they don't want Mo Williams lol.

Fresno
06-28-2012, 03:04 PM
I really don't dig the deal for the Jazz.

Well he does add an upgrade over Devin Harris. Better shooter and better able to operate the Pick & Roll. For the last few years he's settled into the role of basically a spot-up shooter due to his teammates and hasn't had the ability to run an offense.

Its funny how Utah would have 2 recent former All Star PG's and it would still be considered a weak position for them.

Young2Kinsler
06-28-2012, 03:05 PM
Yeah I just think Mo Williams isn't Dallas' plan B, C, D, ect.

If they don't land D-Will, Nash and Dragic are way ahead of Mo Williams on PG to go after.

That being said, if we can shed Lamar Odoms buyout...I'm all for any deal.

gatkins11
06-28-2012, 03:05 PM
I don't think Mavs not wanting Mo Williams is any indication on how they feel their chances are for D-Will.

I just think they don't want Mo Williams lol.

Probably so, but like I've said before, how can Dallas accurately gauge Deron's interest without actually meeting with him first?

Young2Kinsler
06-28-2012, 03:05 PM
Also, I think the title of this is misleading. "nearing a trade" isn't what I would classify this as.

Fresno
06-28-2012, 03:05 PM
So it's esentially Mo Williams for nothing?

Yeah.

Utah would absorb Mo Williams' salary for 1 more season before their Trade Exception expires.

Dallas takes back nothing and clears off $8 Million of Odom's salary.

iam brett favre
06-28-2012, 03:09 PM
I definitely want them to do it then.

Carey
06-28-2012, 03:11 PM
I actually think its ok for the Jazz as a stop gap option if they draft a PG this year, I think Williams is better then Devin Harris at this point.

Fresno
06-28-2012, 03:14 PM
Also, I think the title of this is misleading. "nearing a trade" isn't what I would classify this as.

Well the only hang-up on the Odom to Clippers deal was finding a team who wanted Mo Williams.

Dallas has to get it done by Friday.

futureman
06-28-2012, 03:19 PM
The Jazz drafted Williams originally. The only reason they let him go was because of the expansion draft. It makes the Jazz deeper at PG. Also helps with shooting.

Ironman5219
06-28-2012, 03:20 PM
As a Jazz fan I like the move- Williams gives us a vet that can play the 1 or 2, hit 3's ( which is sorely needed) and be a good vet. locker room pressence for our young studs. As a Jazz fan I'm all over this!! GET IT DONE!!!

-Kobe24-TJ19-
06-28-2012, 03:27 PM
wait a minutes, so Jazz gets Mo for absolutely nothing?

dhopisthename
06-28-2012, 03:28 PM
correct

futureman
06-28-2012, 03:33 PM
wait a minutes, so Jazz gets Mo for absolutely nothing?

Okur trade exception.

-Kobe24-TJ19-
06-28-2012, 03:38 PM
Why are they bringing on more salary?

Jazz's FO has been always conservative and known for being smart spenders.

Makes no sense to spend 10 millions on Mo Will lol

futureman
06-28-2012, 03:44 PM
Why are they bringing on more salary?

Jazz's FO has been always conservative and known for being smart spenders.

Makes no sense to spend 10 millions on Mo Will lol

He is an expiring contract and the jazz will have no money on the books next summer. The whole team has expiring contracts. Even the young guys. But they have team options.

Of course this trade is predicated on Mo williams decision to play into the final year of his deal.

-Kobe24-TJ19-
06-28-2012, 03:46 PM
He is an expiring contract and the jazz will have no money on the books next summer. The whole team has expiring contracts. Even the young guys. But they have team options.

Of course this trade is predicated on Mo williams decision to play into the final year of his deal.

ok I see

b@llhog24
06-28-2012, 03:49 PM
But..but.. what about loyalty? :facepalm:

apet8945
06-28-2012, 03:53 PM
Honestly, I think the Clippers are just trying to get Mo to decline his option. I think this is all just a negotiating tactic. I remember last year how the Clippers FO stabbed Gordon in the back after telling him he wasn't going anywhere. Same thing with Mo. They said that they're working out a deal that both parties will like, but I think they're just trying to screw Mo over.

It's not a secret that Mo declining his option is more valuable to the Clippers than trading him for an 8 million dollar Odom. Now that the third team is the Jazz, the Clippers just might get their wish. Idk why Mo would pick his option up to go play there, especially since there are title contending teams (Lakers, Bulls, Heat) that can use his services.

It all comes down to whether he wants more money or a ring. We'll see.

lkingratedr
06-28-2012, 04:08 PM
If I was mo I would decline my option and go where I wanted as deron said no one wants to come play in Utah so if I was mo its screw tall I'm out ... I'm sure Knicks heat nets new Orleans and a few other teams would throw money his way to play it may not be 8 mill but does he really want to rot in Utah

marj987
06-28-2012, 04:19 PM
Just got word from sources and ESPN Dallas that Harris is in the deal to come to Dallas.

drobe86
06-28-2012, 04:27 PM
omg we got Devin Harris back!!! Why do I not care?

marj987
06-28-2012, 04:36 PM
^^^ I don't either I think they'll get rid of him. Or keep if if deron doesn't sign.

Bigbadmoffo
06-28-2012, 04:36 PM
But..but.. what about loyalty? :facepalm:

Confused?? Was one of them drafted by the home town and screwing them over?

Bigbadmoffo
06-28-2012, 04:38 PM
Wtf happen to Harris lol! Thought he was suppose to be an Allstate:p

drobe86
06-28-2012, 04:40 PM
^^^ I don't either I think they'll get rid of him. Or keep if if deron doesn't sign.

I guess we could do a lot worse at the pg, but I think he's peaked. He's got all the talent in the world, but he's dumb as rocks. You can't teach him to have a Basketball IQ. Nevertheless, I don't think we get Deron so we have to make some REAL moves to improve our team.

NYG 2000
06-28-2012, 04:44 PM
I wonder what tis means for Kenyon Martin returning next season

JasonJohnHorn
06-28-2012, 04:48 PM
This deal is CRAZY!!! All three players are being traded BACK to the teams that drafted them. Devin Harris goes back to Dallas. Odom goes back to the Clippers and Mo Williams goes back to Utah! Has a trade like this EVER happened, that saw three players get traded back to teams that they started with? WTF?!?!!?!?! The stars have aligned for this deal.

BigDFan85
06-28-2012, 04:48 PM
Just got word from sources and ESPN Dallas that Harris is in the deal to come to Dallas.

It says very clearly in the article that Harris coming back to Dallas was a possibility, not a fact of the deal.


The Mavericks' interest in an Odom deal is purely to gain financial flexibility, which necessitates a third team to take on Williams. One possibility discussed, sources said, was Dallas taking back former Mavericks point guard Devin Harris to complete a three-team deal with the Clippers and Jazz, but the Mavericks are trying to avoid absorbing any salary in the move.

LA_Raiders
06-28-2012, 04:55 PM
No way Jazz would do it... Keep on trying Dallas...

Punk
06-28-2012, 04:59 PM
So basically, Mo has to decide either Utah or free agency...I'm pretty sure what he will decide.

dhopisthename
06-28-2012, 05:02 PM
So basically, Mo has to decide either Utah or free agency...I'm pretty sure what he will decide.

and probably a lot of money no one is going to give him 8 mill

shep33
06-28-2012, 05:05 PM
Why would Dallas take back Harris' contract?

Punk
06-28-2012, 05:07 PM
and probably a lot of money no one is going to give him 8 mill

He will make atleast MLE money on the free agency market.

dhopisthename
06-28-2012, 05:16 PM
He will make atleast MLE money on the free agency market.

that is only 3-5 million and who would offer him the full mle?

shep33
06-28-2012, 05:24 PM
Yeah, this should likely get done.

JasonJohnHorn
06-28-2012, 05:28 PM
I wonder what tis means for Kenyon Martin returning next season

Martin's a great player and can back up at PF and C, while Odom can spend most of his time at SF. I don't see Odom being on the team as meaning Martin is gone. I think they really need Martin, especially on defence and on the glass.

kylem4711
06-28-2012, 05:29 PM
I wonder what tis means for Kenyon Martin returning next season

he wasn't going to return anyway.

Cracka2HI!
06-28-2012, 05:31 PM
Honestly, I think the Clippers are just trying to get Mo to decline his option. I think this is all just a negotiating tactic. I remember last year how the Clippers FO stabbed Gordon in the back after telling him he wasn't going anywhere. Same thing with Mo. They said that they're working out a deal that both parties will like, but I think they're just trying to screw Mo over.

It's not a secret that Mo declining his option is more valuable to the Clippers than trading him for an 8 million dollar Odom. Now that the third team is the Jazz, the Clippers just might get their wish. Idk why Mo would pick his option up to go play there, especially since there are title contending teams (Lakers, Bulls, Heat) that can use his services.

It all comes down to whether he wants more money or a ring. We'll see.

That is true about Gordon and I was really upset when we traded him. Don't forget after we turned down the original CP3 trade we tried to negoiate an extension with Gordon and he asked for $18 million. After that the trade went thorugh in a couple days. I think is a difference in doing business and "screwing" people. It's good business to get Mo out of town. If it's for Odom or cap space its a win, win. We're gonna have similar money to sign players whether we end up with cap space or not. We would have to renounce rights to Young, Billups, Foye, KMart and Reggie to obtain cap space. If we keep the rights we can re-sign 2 or 3 guys and use the MLE. Add Odom to that mix and I think we will be able to improve the roster!

JasonJohnHorn
06-28-2012, 05:32 PM
Idk why Mo would pick his option up to go play there,

Because there is no way any team will pay him 8.5 million next season. He's a free agent after next year, so he can hitch his wagon to a contender then, for now he's going to take the money and run.

Besides, he may have a career year where he's back to playing his natrual position and be able to make more money on the market.

gatkins11
06-28-2012, 05:32 PM
No way Dallas is taking back any salary in this trade.

MonroeFAN
06-28-2012, 05:33 PM
Who gave Mo Williams 9 million dollars?

kylem4711
06-28-2012, 05:35 PM
Cle

SteBO
06-28-2012, 05:35 PM
Who gave Mo Williams 9 million dollars?
Cavs.....

Bruno
06-28-2012, 05:58 PM
williams is overpaid and he knows it. he'll take the option.

KB-Pau-DH2012
06-28-2012, 05:59 PM
Told ya Lakers wouldn't go for this trade.

StarvingKnick22
06-28-2012, 06:01 PM
this is good..i guess

kylem4711
06-28-2012, 06:01 PM
yeah, no way the clippers would help the lakers out. never happen

Vinny642
06-28-2012, 06:02 PM
Its accepted as long as Mo opts in to his 8.5 million contract

kylem4711
06-28-2012, 06:04 PM
Report: Mavericks send Odom to Clippers


http://www.foxsportssouthwest.com/06/28/12/Report-Mavericks-send-Odom-to-Clippers/landing_mavericks.html?blockID=753274&feedID=3742

marj987
06-28-2012, 06:22 PM
http://www.foxsportssouthwest.com/06/28/12/report-mavericks-send-odom-to-clippers/landing_mavericks.html?blockid=753274&feedid=3742


oh thank god!

THE_FLASH_21
06-28-2012, 07:03 PM
If I was mo I would decline my option and go where I wanted as deron said no one wants to come play in Utah so if I was mo its screw tall I'm out ... I'm sure Knicks heat nets new Orleans and a few other teams would throw money his way to play it may not be 8 mill but does he really want to rot in Utah

Wooahhhhhh Easy tiger :facepalm:So he wont rot in NY or NO?? Utah has better and younger players then both teams not named (Melo)... And when did Deron say this?? sorry Utah isn't MIA LA or NY but come on Mo Williams?? U make it seem like he is a great player.. SMH :facepalm:

Young2Kinsler
06-28-2012, 07:08 PM
Just got word from sources and ESPN Dallas that Harris is in the deal to come to Dallas.

Wrong.

oak2455
06-28-2012, 07:11 PM
What does this mean cap wise for the Mavs???

Young2Kinsler
06-28-2012, 07:12 PM
Still waiting on Mo Williams to opt in, but Dallas is not taking back Harris.

Young2Kinsler
06-28-2012, 07:12 PM
What does this mean cap wise for the Mavs???

Odoms 2.4 million buyout, nor his salary, will be on our cap.

rangersfan
06-28-2012, 07:13 PM
Still waiting on Mo Williams to opt in, but Dallas is not taking back Harris.

Can we flip Harris after or can you not trade someone you've just acquired?

Isn't that trade exception from the Okur deal $10.8 million and expires in Dec.?

Mr.B
06-28-2012, 07:17 PM
Probably so, but like I've said before, how can Dallas accurately gauge Deron's interest without actually meeting with him first?

They can't but the generally feeling based on his actions (tweets, vacations, and party invites) is that he is going to resign with the Nets (along with Jason Kidd). They will obviously still make a pitch to Deron but they really have to prepare themselves as if they are not going to get DWill. Hope for the best prepare for the worst.