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spreadeagle
06-26-2012, 02:08 AM
Back to the Lakers. If the Cavs are able to move up and nab Beal at No. 2, there’s talk the Lakers would be willing to make life easy for the Wizards and help them move out of the third spot. It would likely take power forward Pau Gasol. Far-fetched for now, but don’t be surprised if it’s something that’s explored in the right situation.

• Wizards big man Andray Blatche could also be part of that, or another, trade.



the Lakers are exploring all kinds of potential deals, having floated every name on the roster this side of Kobe Bryant. They are said to be open to trading Metta World Peace for a late first-rounder, with their eyes on Baylor forward Quincy Miller and Kentucky point guard Marquis Teague.

http://www.foxsportsohio.com/06/26/12/NBA-Rumors--Draft-News-Day-12/landing.html?blockID=751900&feedID=3725

Raps08-09 Champ
06-26-2012, 02:10 AM
Who will they take?

MKG, Thomas Robinson or Drummond?

LakersMaster24
06-26-2012, 02:13 AM
http://www.operatorchan.org/n/src/134038164183.jpg

This could be huge.

Losoway
06-26-2012, 02:16 AM
it doesnt matter who they take....lol the black hole name kobe wont allow them to outshine him

Avenged
06-26-2012, 02:18 AM
it doesnt matter who they take....lol the black hole name kobe wont allow them to outshine him

And he shouldn't have to let a rookie "outshine" him, which I'm sure he wouldn't even if Kobe let him.

KB-Pau-DH2012
06-26-2012, 02:23 AM
Mitch Kupchak and Wizards GM Ernie Grunfeld are like the bestest of friends. Now only question is would the Wiz take on Pau when they already have Okafor and Nene?

Lakerhead4ever
06-26-2012, 02:25 AM
Rumors suck. I can't wait till draft night.

LakersMaster24
06-26-2012, 02:25 AM
Correct me if I am wrong, however are you sure the Wizards can absorb Pau's contract without giving up players?

llemon
06-26-2012, 02:25 AM
http://www.foxsportsohio.com/06/26/12/NBA-Rumors--Draft-News-Day-12/landing.html?blockID=751900&feedID=3725

"they are open to trading MWP for a late 1st rounder"?

Wouldn't they have to throw in a 1st rd pick to get rid of MWP?

spreadeagle
06-26-2012, 02:27 AM
Mitch Kupchak and Wizards GM Ernie Grunfeld are like the bestest of friends. Now only question is would the Wiz take on Pau when they already have Okafor and Nene?

Thats what I was thinking...you can always deal a good C/PF though which all 3 are, maybe move Okafor for whoever...They are desperate to deal Blatche. If they get back a great bigman like Pau I think its good for both sides, they have a lot of young talent to develop anyway Wizards dont need another rookie imo

LTBaByyy
06-26-2012, 02:27 AM
Blatche & 3rd pick for Gasol?

They have Nene and Okafor?

spreadeagle
06-26-2012, 02:28 AM
Correct me if I am wrong, however are you sure the Wizards can absorb Pau's contract without giving up players?

Blatche makes like 10-12 mil I think, who would be included

LakersMaster24
06-26-2012, 02:29 AM
Maybe they are going to use Okafor as a back up big? :shrug:

Pau
Nene
Ariza
Crawford
Wall

JesusWears24
06-26-2012, 02:29 AM
This is great news

LakersMaster24
06-26-2012, 02:30 AM
Blatche makes like 10-12 mil I think, who would be included

He makes $6,442,083...I dont think salaries would match.

spreadeagle
06-26-2012, 02:30 AM
Maybe they are going to use Okafor as a back up big? :shrug:

Pau
Nene
Ariza
Crawford
Wall

If your a Wiz fan this looks 10 times better then the roster like a year anda half ago, ya I know prob wont win title but its a good starting point of not being crap anymore

Bench Vesley Okafor

show34
06-26-2012, 02:36 AM
If you are going to trade Metta ! shouldnt you get something in return for him for say like the same postion in the draft ? I see the kid out of Florida State Bernard James a monster down low blocks rebounds lockdown Defense Ijs! and all the point guards in the draft are more like shooting guards

Avenged
06-26-2012, 02:37 AM
Blatche & 3rd pick for Gasol?

They have Nene and Okafor?

3rd for Pau kind of seems like a reach..

but having Nene & Okafor instead of Pau is a weak argument. Anyone would rather have Pau than them.

LakersMaster24
06-26-2012, 02:38 AM
If you are going to trade Metta ! shouldnt you get something in return for him for say like the same postion in the draft ? I see the kid out of Florida State Bernard James a monster down low blocks rebounds lockdown Defense Ijs! and all the point guards in the draft are more like shooting guards

Perry Jones or Quincy Miller are the Lakers main targets if they get a 1st Rounder.

aussie
06-26-2012, 02:39 AM
Nene
Blatche
#3

for

Bynum
Metta

Wall
Crawford
Metta
Mek
Bynum

PG
Kobe
MKG
Pau
Nene

*Silver&Black*
06-26-2012, 02:41 AM
For MKG's sake, hopefully Lakers pick him up. Want to see him do good in the league.

LakersMaster24
06-26-2012, 02:42 AM
Nene
Blatche
#3

for

Bynum
Metta

Wall
Crawford
Metta
Mek
Bynum

PG
Kobe
MKG
Pau
Nene

:laugh2:

Trade the 2nd best center for a unproven prospect, Nenes contract, and Blatche? Funny.

TmacBryant
06-26-2012, 02:44 AM
http://www.foxsportsohio.com/06/26/12/NBA-Rumors--Draft-News-Day-12/landing.html?blockID=751900&feedID=3725

Any way for us to get Trevor Ariza back? I miss him :\

LakersMaster24
06-26-2012, 02:48 AM
I wonder who would Lakers pick given that pick...

Robinson or Gilchrist?

b-ballistic
06-26-2012, 02:49 AM
it doesnt matter who they take....lol the black hole name kobe wont allow them to outshine him

Yeah, instead of the Black Mamba, it should be the Black Hole :laugh2:

LakersMaster24
06-26-2012, 02:50 AM
Yeah, instead of the Black Mamba, it should be the Black Hole :laugh2:

:cricket:

MickeyMgl
06-26-2012, 03:01 AM
3rd for Pau kind of seems like a reach..

Yep, but if the Lakers have to take on bundle of suck like Blatche, then it starts get realistic.

topdog
06-26-2012, 03:03 AM
3rd for Pau kind of seems like a reach..

but having Nene & Okafor instead of Pau is a weak argument. Anyone would rather have Pau than them.

It's not like their salaries disappear though. If I'm the Wizards, I'd much rather have Barnes or MKG when I'm already committed to $25M+ in bigs.

MickeyMgl
06-26-2012, 03:05 AM
:laugh2:

Trade the 2nd best center for a unproven prospect, Nenes contract, and Blatche? Funny.

Nene's more than a contract. He'd be good for them on the court. However, he's one year into a long-term contract, which kind of undermines one of the main reasons to move Bynum, which is to avoid getting tied to a long-term contract with him. I would think that Nene would go to a third team, which would then bring more pieces the Lakers way.

shep33
06-26-2012, 03:17 AM
Interesting, but I'm not getting it from the Wizards standpoint. Pau > Okafor and Nene, but they've already invested a lot of money into those two.

ThunderousDemon
06-26-2012, 03:17 AM
Wow, What do you have cooking Jimbaco?

Leftcoast_yg
06-26-2012, 03:20 AM
For MKG's sake, hopefully Lakers pick him up. Want to see him do good in the league.

I'm not familiar with "MKG" who is he, what are his strenghts/weaknesses etc...??

LTBaByyy
06-26-2012, 03:25 AM
I'm not familiar with "MKG" who is he, what are his strenghts/weaknesses etc...??

A super athletic version of Luol Deng

ThunderousDemon
06-26-2012, 03:27 AM
I'm not familiar with "MKG" who is he, what are his strenghts/weaknesses etc...??

Michael Kidd-Gilchrist

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Michael-Kidd-Gilchrist-5707/

Wolfman01
06-26-2012, 03:27 AM
Obviously the Lakers are trying hard to move Gasol and the Wizards are trying hard to move Blatche. The only way I see the Lakers acquiring the 3rd pick is doing a 3 team trade since they only have Gasol or Bynum to offer as their main offer.

Leftcoast_yg
06-26-2012, 03:32 AM
A super athletic version of Luol Deng


Michael Kidd-Gilchrist

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Michael-Kidd-Gilchrist-5707/

Thanks cronnys ;)

ThunderousDemon
06-26-2012, 03:34 AM
Michael Kidd-Gilchrist

Best Case: Andre Iguodala

Worst Case: Gerald Wallace

:laugh:

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Michael-Kidd-Gilchrist-5707/

Leftcoast_yg
06-26-2012, 04:16 AM
Michael Kidd-Gilchrist

Best Case: Andre Iguodala

Worst Case: Gerald Wallace

:laugh:

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Michael-Kidd-Gilchrist-5707/

:laugh2: i seen that

Hellcrooner
06-26-2012, 04:24 AM
mmmmmmmmm interesting twist of things.
my guess is they would send okafor to lakers with the pick.

wall+ariza+pau+nene that actually looks quite interesting, and would explain finally the move from wiz that people was bashing last week.


if it happens tough i want them to be BULLETS again.

AKA TheMamba
06-26-2012, 04:40 AM
Lakers are flipping that 3rd pick mark my words for Lowry and the 14th... Thats if the rumors are true, Rockets want to move up in the draft and using Lowry for bait..... I do not know how I feel about this upcoming draft. Kind of excited though!!!!

kenzo400
06-26-2012, 04:41 AM
3rd for Pau kind of seems like a reach..

but having Nene & Okafor instead of Pau is a weak argument. Anyone would rather have Pau than them.

Pau is getting older and a completely pointless piece. If they make this trade then they will still have absolutely no wings.

I find it funny how only the Lakers can pull off these kinds of trades. Their GM must be the ultimate deceiver lol

LakersMaster24
06-26-2012, 04:44 AM
Lakers are flipping that 3rd pick mark my words for Lowry and the 14th... Thats if the rumors are true, Rockets want to move up in the draft and using Lowry for bait..... I do not know how I feel about this upcoming draft. Kind of excited though!!!!

Lowry and 14th aint worth 3rd overall.

kenzo400
06-26-2012, 04:45 AM
Lowry and 14th aint worth 3rd overall.

It's worth more than a 32 year old Gasol.

AKA TheMamba
06-26-2012, 04:46 AM
Lowry and 14th aint worth 3rd overall.

and 16th haha i forgot to throw that in there.. Whatever it is Im excited bout this upcoming draft, being a lakers fan, Draft nights are usually boring as heck!!!!

LakersMaster24
06-26-2012, 04:47 AM
Lowry and 14th aint worth 3rd overall.

It's worth more than a 32 year old Gasol.

But you see you are not the Wizards FO, its not up to you to decide whats worth what and what the Wiz need more.

Fresno
06-26-2012, 04:56 AM
Are people honestly on here thinking the Wizards will trade the #3 pick for Gasol?

Seriously?

lamar2006
06-26-2012, 05:10 AM
Are people honestly on here thinking the Wizards will trade the #3 pick for Gasol?

Seriously?

let me see Nets traded the 6th pick for Wallace in a deep class. Seriously, what has Wallace done. Gasol is a multiple x allstar 10x better than Wallace can still be effective at a high level for 3-4 years. Yeah, Gasol aint worth the 3rd he is worth more. I guess Bynum isnt worth a top 10 either. I guess Lowry is worth a top 3 pick by some standards here.

Fresno
06-26-2012, 05:17 AM
let me see Nets traded the 6th pick for Wallace in a deep class. Seriously, what has Wallace done. Gasol is a multiple x allstar 10x better than Wallace can still be effective at a high level for 3-4 years. Yeah, Gasol aint worth the 3rd he is worth more. I guess Bynum isnt worth a top 10 either. I guess Lowry is worth a top 3 pick by some standards here.
:pity:

You actually think the Wizards are going to trade the #3 pick for Pau Gasol?

If Gasol was so effective while playing at a high level, the Lakers wouldn't even be discussing him in trades the way they are. As a matter of fact they would have been past the 2nd round the last 2 seasons.

Oh wait.

kblo247
06-26-2012, 05:17 AM
Pau is getting older and a completely pointless piece. If they make this trade then they will still have absolutely no wings.

I find it funny how only the Lakers can pull off these kinds of trades. Their GM must be the ultimate deceiver lol

Mitch takes a magic wand with him to his meetings, google that if you don't believe me, as he joked he would start using one when Kobe went on that trade me rant. Then he pulled off Ariza and Pau, actually made the Griz ask him to take Pau twice lol.

Should have brought a clock for Stern though last summer

-Kobe24-TJ19-
06-26-2012, 05:28 AM
If we get Blatche, I'm gonna kill myself

lamar2006
06-26-2012, 05:33 AM
:pity:

You actually think the Wizards are going to trade the #3 pick for Pau Gasol?

If Gasol was so effective while playing at a high level, the Lakers wouldn't even be discussing him in trades the way they are. As a matter of fact they would have been past the 2nd round the last 2 seasons.

Oh wait.

his production with the Lakers doesnt meet the standards the purple and gold demand of their players. He still averaged 16+ points and 8+ rebounds being the 3rd option so if you think a rookie will get you the production Gasol can give you your smoking some bad ****. Gasol would instantly become the 2nd if not the best PF in the eastern conference after Bosh. the Wizards may not trade the 3rd pick for Gasol but who knows if the Nets are stupid enough maybe the Wiz are a little bit smarter since Gasol is worth more than Wallace.

Monta is beast
06-26-2012, 05:34 AM
If we get Blatche, I'm gonna kill myself

Yeah cause it must be so hard being a Lakers fan.

YoungOne
06-26-2012, 05:55 AM
the bigmen rotation of okafor nene gasol would be far too expensive for their production.

Monta is beast
06-26-2012, 06:02 AM
the bigmen rotation of okafor nene gasol would be far too expensive for their production.

Wall would do damage though.

bolts4ever
06-26-2012, 06:22 AM
Honestly im looking at the prospects and Damian Lilliard from Weber St. is a special player. I can see him with Kobe and Bynum as the future And the Lakers haves a PG need with Ramon sessions opting out.

Davidgta1
06-26-2012, 07:17 AM
no one gives a ****.

+1

Bigbadmoffo
06-26-2012, 07:32 AM
Wtf happen in this thread lol. Didn't bother reading the debate but guys you need to get out more!

b-ballistic
06-26-2012, 07:37 AM
no one gives a ****.

:laugh2:

b-ballistic
06-26-2012, 07:40 AM
mmmmmmmmm interesting twist of things.
my guess is they would send okafor to lakers with the pick.

wall+ariza+pau+nene that actually looks quite interesting, and would explain finally the move from wiz that people was bashing last week.


if it happens tough i want them to be BULLETS again.

They can't trade Okafor.......they just got him! I think they have to wait a year before they can trade him. T or F?

king4day
06-26-2012, 08:28 AM
If the Wiz don't get Bynum back for their 3rd pick then don't bother. Gasol isn't nearly worth it for a team like Washington.

koreancabbage
06-26-2012, 08:43 AM
they are getting the third pick so they can try to get Dwight Howard.

3rd + Bynum for Howard

ThunderousDemon
06-26-2012, 08:43 AM
they are getting the third pick so they can try to get Dwight Howard.

3rd + Bynum for Howard

That could work

kbrill21
06-26-2012, 08:47 AM
If Ernie did that trade he should be fired immediately. Maybe 3rd pick and Blatche for Bynum and then the Wiz trade Okafor to someone else.

JDMVP
06-26-2012, 09:20 AM
People talking like PAU is just equal to SCAL, man some NBA fans, man oh man.

ANYWAY, I think its a win win situation for both teams,

We get a pretty good prospect for the FUTURE

MKG, RObinson or even Harrison Barnes one of these guys would be AWESOME

For washington
Dont yall just think that maybe this team wants to see some WINS
Nene and PAU along with Ariza would be a very productive frontline

John WALL continuing to become an awesome player.

Dont yall think just maybe that the WIZARDS would wanna try to at least have a chance to compete???

Try not to HATE toooo damn much on us cause quite frankly were really the ones getting screwed. ANd us Lakers are in deep shiiiiiitttt right now.

Man some of the comments SMFH

stuckyfreshhh
06-26-2012, 09:25 AM
LOL laker fans have gotten a bit delusional with their trades after being spoiled all these years.

No way would the Wiz who are still rebuilding trade the #3 pick (their last shot at a top 5 pick since we'll be competing for a 6-8 seed) for a 30+ year old big who shrinks in the post season. Only way this deal is considered if it'd Bynum in the deal not Gasol.

3rd, 32 and Blatche for Bynum. People forget Blathce is still 25 years old and did average liek 18-8 when he started a year ago. It's hard to say a guy still has potential after being in the league for 6 or so years but he does. Change of scenery is what he needs.

Leftcoast_yg
06-26-2012, 09:39 AM
Wtf happen in this thread lol. Didn't bother reading the debate but guys you need to get out more!

My sig, it got under people skin and had to defend my position....but people are talking about Pau like he can't bring anything to the court, they forget that Bynum became the 1st option in the post and Pau was still able to put up good numbers, especially for a 3rd option. I can also see this Pick being flipped for Howard along with Bynum while we give Blatche a new start here in L.A. Which I'm assuming he will be included to ease the burden of the cap space Pau's contract will take up.

I also belive Pau will shine as a 2nd and a 1st option with the Wiz especially with Oakafor being more of a defensive minded player than Drew is, and would give Pau much needed help on D-end of the court. Btw I can see a fast break lead by Wall with Pau on one wing and nene on the other, those 2 big are really mobile for their size. They would be a legit all star away from being a top 3 seed in the east. Maybe Tyreke Evans for Nene???

Wall
Reke
Ariza
Pau
Oakafor

Rockice_8
06-26-2012, 09:39 AM
Mitch Kupchak and Wizards GM Ernie Grunfeld are like the bestest of friends. Now only question is would the Wiz take on Pau when they already have Okafor and Nene?

Having a big man rotation with OK4 coming off the bench would be really nice. Both Nene and Gasol are good passing bigmen and I think would work well with each other. Still don't think Pau is worth losing your pick over though.

The goods
06-26-2012, 09:45 AM
Pau for wall,ariza,okafor,and the 3rd pick. Lol

juggla53
06-26-2012, 09:46 AM
it doesnt matter who they take....lol the black hole name kobe wont allow them to outshine him


that black hole has allowed enough people to shine to reach 7 finals and win five rings so i am sure whoever they would take will do just fine

koreancabbage
06-26-2012, 09:46 AM
Pau for wall,ariza,okafor,and the 3rd pick. Lol

sounds good to me, but to be fair, might as well give MWP to them, you know- to even out the salaries a bit

The goods
06-26-2012, 09:47 AM
Seriously throw in ariza,and a big along with the 3rd and you might have a deal.

king4day
06-26-2012, 09:48 AM
Seriously throw in ariza,and a big along with the 3rd and you might have a deal.

Maybe for Bynum. Not many teams are knocking at LA's door for Pau's services.

The goods
06-26-2012, 09:49 AM
sounds good to me, but to be fair, might as well give MWP to them, you know- to even out the salaries a bit

We're giving them mcbob, we're saving MWP for derozan and Calderon. Lol jk

The goods
06-26-2012, 09:52 AM
Maybe for Bynum. Not many teams are knocking at LA's door for Pau's services.

I hate to say it but you are right,he didn't have a great season due to bad coaching and him not getting into the post,because he's still unstoppable down there,but a bad season is a bad season.

todu82
06-26-2012, 09:55 AM
This would be a good move for L.A. Really would go a long ways to rebuilding the team for the post-Kobe era.

The goods
06-26-2012, 09:56 AM
The wizards are already young enough they some vets and with pau you get that along with some championship knowledge and people forget nene,and okafor are injury prone atleast with gasol they get some durability down low.

The goods
06-26-2012, 09:58 AM
We do this trade and trade artest for another pick and we're instantly younger and faster problem is we don't have time for them to develop and its always a risk.

RLundi
06-26-2012, 10:19 AM
Lol pipe dreaming.

AirJordanXVIII
06-26-2012, 10:29 AM
This is BS is the Lakers pull this off.

ThunderousDemon
06-26-2012, 10:38 AM
This is BS is the Lakers pull this off.

:dance: Best GM in the business. Don't hate the player hate the game.

"The game is ****ing rigged." -McNulty :drunk::shrug:

RLundi
06-26-2012, 10:44 AM
:dance: Best GM in the business. Don't hate the player hate the game.

"The game is ****ing rigged." -McNulty :drunk::shrug:

Lol delusional.

ThunderousDemon
06-26-2012, 10:48 AM
Lol delusional.

"You are my sin, you know that?" -McNulty

Hellcrooner
06-26-2012, 10:48 AM
Maybe for Bynum. Not many teams are knocking at LA's door for Pau's services.
If we beleive the rumours in the las 365 days all this teams have Asked bout him.
Celtics
Sixers
Wizards
Bulls
Pacers
Bucks
Mavs
Rockets
Grizzlies
Wolves
Warriors


Thats quite a few.......

netsgiantsyanks
06-26-2012, 10:49 AM
Nene
Blatche
#3

for

Bynum
Metta

Wall
Crawford
Metta
Mek
Bynum

PG
Kobe
MKG
Pau
Nene

lolwut?

RLundi
06-26-2012, 10:51 AM
If we beleive the rumours in the las 365 days all this teams have Asked bout him.
Celtics
Sixers
Wizards
Bulls
Pacers
Bucks
Mavs
Rockets
Grizzlies
Wolves


Thats quite a few.......

This just amounts to kicking the tires on him. But I'd be surprised if he's still highly regarded at age 32.

clyde3218
06-26-2012, 10:53 AM
Harrison barnes!!!!!!

The goods
06-26-2012, 10:56 AM
We better draft a PG if this happens.

AirJordanXVIII
06-26-2012, 10:59 AM
This just amounts to kicking the tires on him. But I'd be surprised if he's still highly regarded at age 32.

Cmon lets not undervalue Pau. He doesn't turn 32 until July. :eyebrow:

ChiSportsDaily
06-26-2012, 11:01 AM
People talking like PAU is just equal to SCAL, man some NBA fans, man oh man.

No one's saying that Pau isn't still a good player, but a player's trade value is a combination of a player's ability, age and salary. At 32 years old, making $19M+, how much value does Pau have? A 3rd overall pick in a strong draft? Not seeing it.

howiend
06-26-2012, 11:12 AM
"they are open to trading MWP for a late 1st rounder"?

Wouldn't they have to throw in a 1st rd pick to get rid of MWP?

exactly what i was thinking!

DR_1
06-26-2012, 11:16 AM
I love trading season

MickeyMgl
06-26-2012, 11:29 AM
They can't trade Okafor.......they just got him! I think they have to wait a year before they can trade him. T or F?

They can trade Okafor by himself, but can't package him in another trade with other players. I don't know how long the restriction lasts, six months or a year I think.

MickeyMgl
06-26-2012, 11:33 AM
LOL laker fans have gotten a bit delusional with their trades after being spoiled all these years.

No way would the Wiz who are still rebuilding trade the #3 pick (their last shot at a top 5 pick since we'll be competing for a 6-8 seed) for a 30+ year old big who shrinks in the post season.

He's got two championships that say otherwise... but I agree that it'd take Bynum to do this deal... and if there are enough good pieces returned besides the #3, the Lakers should look into it.

DR_1
06-26-2012, 11:46 AM
Pau straight up for Wall. If anyone can pull it off Mitch can.

MickeyMgl
06-26-2012, 11:49 AM
No one's saying that Pau isn't still a good player, but a player's trade value is a combination of a player's ability, age and salary. At 32 years old, making $19M+, how much value does Pau have? A 3rd overall pick in a strong draft? Not seeing it.

I wonder what kind of tactics get used in trade negotations, like if the Lakers could be trying to work out where the Wizards' limit is for Gasol, find out how far they won't go, and then push that line by switching in Bynum, who by then has probably been mentioned a few times by the other team (the Wiz). The Wizards get excited at Bynum's sudden availability and motivated to top the price they agreed to for Gasol.

I would do that. When you ask for the moon, sometimes people won't say "no", but they'll respond with what they think is an equally unlikely demand in return. If you suddenly say that's doable, then they're on the hook for at least what you asked, and maybe a little more. Voila! You have the moon.

ChiSportsDaily
06-26-2012, 12:11 PM
I wonder what kind of tactics get used in trade negotations, like if the Lakers could be trying to work out where the Wizards' limit is for Gasol, find out how far they won't go, and then push that line by switching in Bynum, who by then has probably been mentioned a few times by the other team (the Wiz). The Wizards get excited at Bynum's sudden availability and motivated to top the price they agreed to for Gasol.

I would do that. When you ask for the moon, sometimes people won't say "no", but they'll respond with what they think is an equally unlikely demand in return. If you suddenly say that's doable, then they're on the hook for at least what you asked, and maybe a little more. Voila! You have the moon.

Very true. I would just be shocked if the Lakers were able to get the 3rd pick for only Pau. If a future first round pick is included, then it becomes a discussion.

Chronz
06-26-2012, 12:22 PM
Pau straight up for Wall. If anyone can pull it off Mitch can.
LOL Mitch?

DR_1
06-26-2012, 12:32 PM
LOL Mitch?

Mitch Kupcak, Lakers GM, famous for destroying Memphis in the Pau Gasol trade :facepalm:

Hellcrooner
06-26-2012, 12:36 PM
Mitch Kupcak, Lakers GM, famous for destroying Memphis in the Pau Gasol trade :facepalm:

All star center Marc Gasol says hi.....:rolleyes:

sunnydayin'zona
06-26-2012, 12:36 PM
Maybe they are going to use Okafor as a back up big? :shrug:

Pau
Nene
Ariza
Crawford
Wall

That's not a bad team! But Pau would play PF and Nene would play C

Hellcrooner
06-26-2012, 12:40 PM
That's not a bad team! But Pau would play PF and Nene would play C

DOnt think so, Pau is much more effective on the Post Nowdays.

Stinkyoutsider
06-26-2012, 12:44 PM
If I'm the Lakers, I'm not taking Blatche back in a trade. The Lakers already have Bynum (slow but strong center). I think the Lakers can do better than taking him back in a trade.

I would, however, trade World Peace though.

Showtime Steve
06-26-2012, 01:34 PM
If I'm the Lakers, I'm not taking Blatche back in a trade. The Lakers already have Bynum (slow but strong center). I think the Lakers can do better than taking him back in a trade.

I would, however, trade World Peace though.

Blatche is a jumpshooting C. Which is pretty much what MB made pau into anyway. Doesnt he have a bad contract too?

futureman
06-26-2012, 01:39 PM
Lakers have nothing to offer if they don't offer Bynum or Kobe. Washington isn't going to take gasol and the other junk for number 3.

Chronz
06-26-2012, 01:47 PM
Mitch Kupcak, Lakers GM, famous for destroying Memphis in the Pau Gasol trade :facepalm:
LOL that guy? Whats he gonna do here?

DR_1
06-26-2012, 02:34 PM
All star center Marc Gasol says hi.....:rolleyes:

PAU is a future hall of famer, never thought he would get so underrated. Mitch absolutely DESTROYED Memphis, it took them years to recover

broncosfan4eva
06-26-2012, 02:54 PM
this is a way for the lakers to get more intrest in Pau

kenzo400
06-26-2012, 03:37 PM
But you see you are not the Wizards FO, its not up to you to decide whats worth what and what the Wiz need more.

Obviously :rolleyes: But i'm talking about common sense market value.

Hellcrooner
06-26-2012, 03:38 PM
PAU is a future hall of famer, never thought he would get so underrated. Mitch absolutely DESTROYED Memphis, it took them years to recover

who tells you Marc isnt too? has plenty of years to win some ring as a second or third option and he is growing a great fiba resume with his brother too.

-Kobe24-TJ19-
06-26-2012, 05:21 PM
Yeah cause it must be so hard being a Lakers fan.

Blatche is the worst player in the NBA

LAKERMANIA
06-26-2012, 05:39 PM
LOL laker fans have gotten a bit delusional with their trades after being spoiled all these years.

No way would the Wiz who are still rebuilding trade the #3 pick (their last shot at a top 5 pick since we'll be competing for a 6-8 seed) for a 30+ year old big who shrinks in the post season. Only way this deal is considered if it'd Bynum in the deal not Gasol.

1st- He has 2 championship rings with many people arguing that he should have won the 2010 Finals MVP..

2nd-Does it matter if Pau shrinks in the postseason? It's not like Washington is going to make the playoffs anyway...


3rd, 32 and Blatche for Bynum. People forget Blathce is still 25 years old and did average liek 18-8 when he started a year ago. It's hard to say a guy still has potential after being in the league for 6 or so years but he does. Change of scenery is what he needs.
The only reason Bynum is traded is if we get the best Center in the league..

j-bay
06-26-2012, 05:43 PM
Blatche is the worst player in the NBA
He also receives Lap dances every offseason

DR_1
06-26-2012, 05:49 PM
who tells you Marc isnt too? has plenty of years to win some ring as a second or third option and he is growing a great fiba resume with his brother too.

Wow never thought I'd see the day when you hate on Pau croon

shep33
06-26-2012, 05:59 PM
Blatche is the worst player in the NBA

My favorite post of the day :laugh:

I can't stand Blatche either

papipapsmanny
06-26-2012, 06:04 PM
yea the lakers can take Blatche and the 3rd for Bynum.... thats about the only deal i see getting done

Bruno
06-26-2012, 06:07 PM
...and LAs gona be looking to trade the third pick once they get it?? It's not time to rebuild yet. kobes earned the respect play out his contract with a playoff caliber team.

nene and the third for gasol? id never do that if i were the wizards.

Bruno
06-26-2012, 06:08 PM
Mitch Kupcak, Lakers GM, famous for destroying Memphis in the Pau Gasol trade :facepalm:

are you kidding me?

KB-Pau-DH2012
06-26-2012, 06:11 PM
PAU is a future hall of famer, never thought he would get so underrated. Mitch absolutely DESTROYED Memphis, it took them years to recover

The Pau trade happened on February 1st, 2008.

The Memphis Grizzlies made it to the playoffs in 2011 and were just one win away from reaching the conference finals.


Are you high?

DR_1
06-26-2012, 06:12 PM
are you kidding me?

Yes

Bruno
06-26-2012, 06:13 PM
Yes

:cheers:

DR_1
06-26-2012, 06:14 PM
The Pau trade happened on February 1st, 2008.

The Memphis Grizzlies made it to the playoffs in 2011 and were just one win away from reaching the conference finals.


Are you high?

Alright chill.

I was making fun of Laker fans who think Mitch is a freaking genius who uses a magic wand to convince people to trade

DR_1
06-26-2012, 06:15 PM
:cheers:

I had to do it...Lakers fans are fun to troll :laugh2:

j-bay
06-26-2012, 06:17 PM
Again any team who gets blatche is going to deal with the headline of blatche getting a lap dance. its like dennis rodman all over again.

Iron24th
06-26-2012, 06:41 PM
PAU is a future hall of famer, never thought he would get so underrated. Mitch absolutely DESTROYED Memphis, it took them years to recover

With Pau memphis has a 0-12 record in 3 playoffs appearances.
With Marc memphis has a 7-6 record in 2 playoffs appearances.

Do your maths.

Iron24th
06-26-2012, 06:42 PM
Alright chill.

I was making fun of Laker fans who think Mitch is a freaking genius who uses a magic wand to convince people to trade

Lol you got me too.

mamba24
06-26-2012, 06:43 PM
With Pau memphis has a 0-12 record in 3 playoffs appearances.
With Marc memphis has a 7-6 record in 2 playoffs appearances.

Do your maths.

uh... look who was on pau's memphis teams compared to marc's memphis team

Structures
06-26-2012, 09:43 PM
These rumors make no sense. The wizards are already overpaying 3 big men, why the hell do they want to give up #3 for ANOTHER overpaid big?

And since when is Ron Artest worth a 1st round pick? No team wants to touch that trash.

KB-Pau-DH2012
06-26-2012, 09:49 PM
These rumors make no sense. The wizards are already overpaying 3 big men, why the hell do they want to give up #3 for ANOTHER overpaid big?

And since when is Ron Artest worth a 1st round pick? No team wants to touch that trash.

Yes but Pau Gasol is better than any big that Wizards have. Better than Nene. Better than Okafor. Better than Blatche. Better than Booker. Better than Seraphin.

hornetsfansydne
06-26-2012, 09:50 PM
With Pau memphis has a 0-12 record in 3 playoffs appearances.
With Marc memphis has a 7-6 record in 2 playoffs appearances.

Do your maths.

Shouldn't Memphis have at least 8 losses in the past 2 post seasons......

jerellh528
06-26-2012, 09:54 PM
Shouldn't Memphis have at least 8 losses in the past 2 post seasons......

:laugh2:

papipapsmanny
06-26-2012, 10:18 PM
this isn't happening unless its for Bynum, sorry lakers fans, Grunfield is stupid but he isn't that stupid unless there is some crazy plans in the works

KB-Pau-DH2012
06-26-2012, 10:21 PM
this isn't happening unless its for Bynum, sorry lakers fans, Grunfield is stupid but he isn't that stupid unless there is some crazy plans in the works

This makes no sense. How is the 3rd pick in the draft (as it won't be Anthony Davis) comparable to an already established 2nd best C in the league in Andrew Bynum.

Some of yall have been smoking some of Phil Jackson's peyote there I see.

YouCan'tBeatLA
06-26-2012, 10:27 PM
This makes no sense. How is the 3rd pick in the draft (as it won't be Anthony Davis) comparable to an already established 2nd best C in the league in Andrew Bynum.

Some of yall have been smoking some of Phil Jackson's peyote there I see.

It's OK, some people haven't realized that the Lakers do the raping in trades. :smoke:

KobeOwnSU
06-26-2012, 10:32 PM
Its really not that bad of a deal for both teams.

superwill
06-26-2012, 10:54 PM
We want John wall,3rd pick,a 1st for next year Bullets get Pau and We get Magic and Kobe to sign some basketballs and Jerseys:D Lets make it happen.:clap:

Six-8-TheWizard
06-26-2012, 11:04 PM
Shouldn't Memphis have at least 8 losses in the past 2 post seasons......

Lol. I was thinking this as well

jason17
06-27-2012, 12:10 AM
Blatche & 3rd pick for Gasol?

They have Nene and Okafor?

How good was Gasol? I guess the wizards target this year it to build depth so if Gasol came than Serhaphin will back him up and Nene and Okefor rotate.

IDK will see .

STL Don
06-27-2012, 12:24 AM
This would be great for both sides.
Trading Gasol would be a big weight lifted off their shoulders and would give them the chance to bring in a top player in the draft and free up some cap space.
Washington would immediately turn into a 5th or 6th seed threat in the East.

Wall
Crawford
Ariza
Gasol
Okafor/Nene

Would allow Gasol to become the prime target down low in which he prefers and with a fresh start and a rising pg, his numbers would likely return to the level we're accustomed to seeing from him.

papipapsmanny
06-27-2012, 12:25 AM
This makes no sense. How is the 3rd pick in the draft (as it won't be Anthony Davis) comparable to an already established 2nd best C in the league in Andrew Bynum.

Some of yall have been smoking some of Phil Jackson's peyote there I see.

its a lot less ridiculous than the lakers getting the 3rd pick for Gasol who is 32 and declining and has a big contract

jason17
06-27-2012, 12:28 AM
its a lot less ridiculous than the lakers getting the 3rd pick for Gasol who is 32 and declining and has a big contract

True. I would much rather have Bynum I think he might be the surprise if true. We will see .

AussieLaker
06-27-2012, 12:36 AM
True. I would much rather have Bynum I think he might be the surprise if true. We will see .

i doubt bynum would be included in the trade

jason17
06-27-2012, 12:40 AM
i doubt bynum would be included in the trade

I just feel the wizards should just draft for PF or trade for another need. I thin we are fine at big man but no doubt Gasol is better than Okefor and Nene.-ne.

papipapsmanny
06-27-2012, 12:53 AM
i doubt bynum would be included in the trade

as do I actually i think there is nothing to this and is complete BS

MickeyMgl
06-27-2012, 03:36 AM
Pau straight up for Wall. If anyone can pull it off Mitch can.


LOL Mitch?

He meant Chaz.

MickeyMgl
06-27-2012, 03:53 AM
PAU is a future hall of famer, never thought he would get so underrated. Mitch absolutely DESTROYED Memphis, it took them years to recover

Recover from what?

In 06-07, the year before they traded Gasol, they won 22 games.
In 07-08, the season that they traded Gasol, they won 22 games.
In 08-09, the season after they traded Gasol, they won 24 games.
In 09-10, two years after trading Pau Gasol, they won 40 games. (Would have been 1 game out of the playoffs in the East.)
In 10-11, they won 46 games, and reached the 2nd round, which they had never done with Pau. In the third full season after the trade.
In 11-12, with numerous key injuries throughout the season, they won at a percentage that would have equaled 51 wins over an 82-game season.

The Pau Gasol trade has been a boon for the Memphis Grizzlies. (Not that the Lakers are complaining, of course.) That trade was a win-win for all parties.

KB-Pau-DH2012
06-27-2012, 03:55 AM
Recover from what?

In 06-07, the year before they traded Gasol, they won 22 games.
In 07-08, the season that they traded Gasol, they won 22 games.
In 08-09, the season after they traded Gasol, they won 24 games.
In 09-10, two years after trading Pau Gasol, they won 40 games. (Would have been 1 game out of the playoffs in the East.)
In 10-11, they won 46 games, and reached the 2nd round, which they had never done with Pau. In the third full season after the trade.
In 11-12, with numerous key injuries throughout the season, they won at a percentage that would have equaled 51 wins over an 82-game season.

The Pau Gasol trade has been a boon for the Memphis Grizzlies. (Not that the Lakers are complaining, of course.) That trade was a win-win for all parties.

Well to be fair, in 06-07, the Grizz were without Pau because the summer before, he broke his leg in the semifinals of the world championships, the tournament where Spain still won the gold in the final game w/o him.

MickeyMgl
06-27-2012, 04:03 AM
I just noticed that Okafor's contract ends in two seasons... which would actually make him fit right in with one particular Laker strategy. All their big contracts could end two seasons from now.

Gagan136
06-27-2012, 04:08 AM
Gasol and Metta for Blatche Ariza and the 3rd pick?

numba1CHANGsta
06-27-2012, 05:01 AM
Gasol and Metta for Blatche Ariza and the 3rd pick?

only in a perfect world my friend :rolleyes:

Structures
06-27-2012, 12:12 PM
You guys realize that the wizards are just trying to scare Charlotte so that they dont trade back with the cavs right?

Wizards want Beal.
Cavs want Beal.
Charlotte is unsure who they want but they'll probably take Robinson and know he'll be there at #4 since the cavs/wizards will take Beal/MKG.

So now the wizards are trying to scare the bobcats into thinking that Robinson wont be there if they go through with this trade.

They dont actually want Gasol. It makes ZERO sense to trade Blatche (who does suck) for a more expensive player in Gasol and a garbage player in "Metta World Peace".

I think even if the cavs/bobcats go through with the trade and Cleveland takes Beal, Washington should take MKG anyways and just wait till Ariza plays out his contract.

This trade is not meant to bring Ariza back to the Lakers (I dont even think he can be traded again, I believe they have to wait a certain amount of time.) Washington is just trying to pressure Charlotte, that's it.