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Monta is beast
06-24-2012, 08:15 PM
A crowd favourite in Chicago and described as the "glue" of the team by his coach, such a move is being seen by many as a retaliatory measure by the Bulls after Deng made his stand to compete for Great Britain.


Deng might earn close to 15m per year with the Bulls but the club own him lock stock and barrel, and he is not permitted to play any part in negotiations about his future or even be told if negotiations are underway. He could wake up any morning to discover that he has been traded to another club.


Following his decision to play for Great Britain despite a wrist tendon injury, the Bulls General Manager Gar Forman, who called Deng in from holiday for a meeting earlier this month, is understood to have offered the Warriors Deng and the 29th pick in the NBA draft on Thursday for centre Andris Bierdrins, small forward Dorrell Wright and the seventh pick in the draft. The Bulls badly want the 7th pick to recruit a shooting guard to act as cover for Derrick Rose who will miss next season following ACL surgery.


"I believe there is always, to some extent, truth behind rumours," says Deng who is at the GB Olympic camp in Houston. "As an athlete though, if you get caught up in them, you are really wasting your time because its not something you can control.


"If I was a GM I would be shopping around for players too. They have got to show that they do something! A lot of GMs don't just sit there, they're trying their options.


"Me, I always say there are two things when trades happen . If I was to be let go by a team and nobody picks me up, that's probably the worst thing. But whenever you hear your name in a trade, that means there is somebody at the other end who wants you.

"If it's not true the GM could always come out and say it's not true. But if the GM doesn't come out and say it, there are probably talks. And there should be.

"As much as I want to stay on the team - I love Chicago, I love the Bulls - at the same time I know the business part of it. Sooner or later, all the rumours are going to come up. At the end of the day there are no hard feelings and I'm not a 21 year old kid who will get upset by it. I understand the game.

"I dont think they are paying me back for the Olympics. As a GM that's his job to try and get the team healthy and ready for next year. I understand both sides of it. But again it comes down to a bad injury that happened at the wrong time. I just try to let people know I'm going to be ok."

Deng, although taking part in light training at the GB camp, will not be playing any of the friendly games while in USA but is expected to appear in most of the eight warm-up games they have organised in Europe before the Olympics. After the Olympics he will decided if he needs surgery on the wrist, in which case he will miss the first part of the NBA season.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/olympics/basketball/9352831/London-2012-Olympics-Luol-Deng-philosophical-about-proposed-move-to-Golden-State-Warriors.html

Raps18-19 Champ
06-24-2012, 08:17 PM
Who do the Bulls take with the 7th?

Austin Rivers? Jeremy Lamb?

popo85
06-24-2012, 08:18 PM
Curry-Thompson-Deng-Lee-Bogut solid starting 5...

black1605
06-24-2012, 08:18 PM
One report was that they love Rivers. No idea how valid that is.

nicegoing
06-24-2012, 08:19 PM
Great trade for the Warriors. Give up the seventh pick and get rid of Biedrins and get an all star in Deng.

Cubby
06-24-2012, 08:20 PM
Lamb please.

nicegoing
06-24-2012, 08:21 PM
Also maybe Deng shouldn't play if he is injured???

bears88
06-24-2012, 08:23 PM
I'm not really sure If GS would do that trade, but who knows I might be wrong!!

kozelkid
06-24-2012, 08:26 PM
Also maybe Deng shouldn't play if he is injured???

As a Bulls fan, he deserves every right to play after the sacrifice he made to play through injury with us this season.

With that said, next season is likely lost with Rose probably not 100% till 2013-2014 season. Deng, meanwhile, will be 29 by end of 2014 and will likely look for a big extension by then. With this move, Bulls get younger and get significantly more financial flexibility, younger and less injury prone while Warriors get a great vet presence and become very good defensively very quickly with Bogut and now possibly Deng.

knicksfan42
06-24-2012, 08:30 PM
Good trade for the Warriors. Deng is still young (just turned 27 in April) and he's consistent, he had a bit of a down year, but he's going to give the Warriors 16 and 6 to go along with great defense.

Curry

Thompson

Deng

Lee

Bogut


are a playoff team provided everyone is healthy.

NYG 2000
06-24-2012, 08:30 PM
Ummmmm, no thanks, I I wanna move deng, but don't want any part not biedrins or wright

If we get biedrins, and might as well move noah for evans and start asik

Cubby
06-24-2012, 08:30 PM
I absolutely love that trade for what it's worth.

Cubby
06-24-2012, 08:31 PM
Ummmmm, no thanks, I I wanna move deng, but don't want any part not biedrins or wright

If we get biedrins, and might as well move noah for evans and start asik

Wright is a pretty good player, cheap, and young. With him we'd end up getting a good SG in the draft to get next to Rose.

NYG 2000
06-24-2012, 08:31 PM
I absolutely love that trade for what it's worth.

Have you seen biedrins contract? It's a wash between his deal and deng

NYG 2000
06-24-2012, 08:33 PM
Ummmmm, no thanks, I I wanna move deng, but don't want any part not biedrins or wright

If we get biedrins, and might as well move noah for evans and start asik

Wright is a pretty good player, cheap, and young. With him we'd end up getting a good SG in the draft to get next to Rose.

No thanks, I'm for moving deng but not to replace him with Wright, i want Butler to get his shot at the sf

This is a dumb move,all this for Jeremy lamb? I please

NYG 2000
06-24-2012, 08:36 PM
Noah and deng for evans, 5th pick and a bad contract

Give me that, I and it's a done deal I'm not taking back biedrins for the 8th pick and Wright no way

I'd rather give up Noah and deng and bring back a talented shooting guard in evans and a pick

Ezio
06-24-2012, 08:36 PM
UK source... Then again I think Deng is there atm.

NYG 2000
06-24-2012, 08:37 PM
Who do the Bulls take with the 7th?

Austin Rivers? Jeremy Lamb?

Pretty much and they aren't going to be star caliber players

Cubby
06-24-2012, 08:39 PM
No thanks, I'm for moving deng but not to replace him with Wright, i want Butler to get his shot at the sf

This is a dumb move,all this for Jeremy lamb? I please

Jimmy Butler is most likely never going to start. He'll end up being a better version of Ronnie Brewer that occasionally spot starts in case of an injury.

Wright is good. Ask any Heat fan or Warriors fan.

Cubby
06-24-2012, 08:39 PM
Noah and deng for evans, 5th pick and a bad contract

Give me that, I and it's a done deal I'm not taking back biedrins for the 8th pick and Wright no way

I'd rather give up Noah and deng and bring back a talented shooting guard in evans and a pick

After suggesting that trade, I'm done debating with you. Good day.

yaswaggin
06-24-2012, 08:41 PM
Don't know about this trade

Deng is a huge part of that team and his perimeter d is elite

Are they really gonna put dorell wright on Lebron in the playoffs?

Cubby
06-24-2012, 08:44 PM
Don't know about this trade

Deng is a huge part of that team and his perimeter d is elite

Are they really gonna put dorell wright on Lebron in the playoffs?

It's a trade for financial flexibility. Let's face it, Deng is injury prone as well.

Glen20
06-24-2012, 08:44 PM
Jimmy Butler is most likely never going to start. He'll end up being a better version of Ronnie Brewer that occasionally spot starts in case of an injury.

Wright is good. Ask any Heat fan or Warriors fan.

he's very streaky.

Cubby
06-24-2012, 08:44 PM
he's very streaky.

So is any shooter.

bears88
06-24-2012, 08:46 PM
lets not start this again lol

yaswaggin
06-24-2012, 08:47 PM
Don't know about this trade

Deng is a huge part of that team and his perimeter d is elite

Are they really gonna put dorell wright on Lebron in the playoffs?

It's a trade for financial flexibility. Let's face it, Deng is injury prone as well.

You would take in biedrins contract

NYG 2000
06-24-2012, 08:47 PM
Noah and deng for evans, 5th pick and a bad contract

Give me that, I and it's a done deal I'm not taking back biedrins for the 8th pick and Wright no way

I'd rather give up Noah and deng and bring back a talented shooting guard in evans and a pick

After suggesting that trade, I'm done debating with you. Good day.

Haha Haha

NYG 2000
06-24-2012, 08:48 PM
Don't know about this trade

Deng is a huge part of that team and his perimeter d is elite

Are they really gonna put dorell wright on Lebron in the playoffs?

Jimmy Butler

Ezio
06-24-2012, 08:48 PM
You would take in biedrins contract

We're most likely taking Jefferson :sigh:

Pierzynski4Prez
06-24-2012, 08:48 PM
lol

As always, you provide wonderful insight into a thread.

NYG 2000
06-24-2012, 08:49 PM
Don't know about this trade

Deng is a huge part of that team and his perimeter d is elite

Are they really gonna put dorell wright on Lebron in the playoffs?

It's a trade for financial flexibility. Let's face it, Deng is injury prone as well.

You would take in biedrins contract

Exactly, this deal isn't happening, but we could trade Deng away for a top 15 pick and an expiring contract somewhere I bet

bears88
06-24-2012, 08:49 PM
you forgot we still got that amnesty option.

Cubby
06-24-2012, 08:50 PM
You would take in biedrins contract

Next year is most likely a wash anyway, so when his contract expires, we have cap flexibility.

Cubby
06-24-2012, 08:51 PM
you forgot we still got that amnesty option.

You can't amnesty someone who wasn't under conrptract when the new CBA wa signed.

nicegoing
06-24-2012, 08:52 PM
you forgot we still got that amnesty option.
You can't use it on Biedrins.

bears88
06-24-2012, 08:53 PM
oh oky I really never knew that my bad !! but thanks for telling me that little info though.

yaswaggin
06-24-2012, 08:54 PM
You would take in biedrins contract

Next year is most likely a wash anyway, so when his contract expires, we have cap flexibility.

When does his contract expire?

justinnum1
06-24-2012, 08:54 PM
bulls really need to do something, at least this would show they are trying to improve

Blazers#1Fan
06-24-2012, 08:55 PM
offer Noah to portland for the 11th they cant get anymore then that for him

beasted86
06-24-2012, 08:56 PM
Curry-Thompson-Deng-Lee-Bogut solid starting 5...

Sounds like a lottery team when 3 of the 5 starters (are bound to) get injured.

NYMetros
06-24-2012, 08:56 PM
I'd jump all over that if I'm GS.

ThunderousDemon
06-24-2012, 08:57 PM
Golden state is going to be a good team this coming season.

Ebbs
06-24-2012, 08:58 PM
G-state needs to pull the trigger.

Ebbs
06-24-2012, 08:59 PM
Golden state is going to be a good team this coming season.

lol heard this before.

yaswaggin
06-24-2012, 09:00 PM
offer Noah to portland for the 11th they cant get anymore then that for him

Idk about that. I hate noah and dislike the bulls but the man is a double double machine and a good center in a league lacking good centers

NYG 2000
06-24-2012, 09:00 PM
You would take in biedrins contract

Next year is most likely a wash anyway, so when his contract expires, we have cap flexibility.

When does his contract expire?

2015 I think

ThunderousDemon
06-24-2012, 09:01 PM
lol heard this before.

It looks good on paper. :shrug:

bears88
06-24-2012, 09:01 PM
The only thing that doesn't make sense to me since the Bulls want cap flexibility would want beidrian ( how ever you spell his name) unless he is an expiring next year. That's the only thing am actually lost with.

yaswaggin
06-24-2012, 09:04 PM
You would take in biedrins contract

Next year is most likely a wash anyway, so when his contract expires, we have cap flexibility.

When does his contract expire?

2015 I think

Yeah **** taking in that contract

NYG 2000
06-24-2012, 09:04 PM
The only thing that doesn't make sense to me since the Bulls want cap flexibility would want beidrian ( how ever you spell his name) unless he is an expiring next year. That's the only thing am actually lost with.

This
And why we would want to take back wright, when we already have a streaky shooter in korver

Cubby
06-24-2012, 09:04 PM
2015 I think

2014 if he accepts his player option. He can hit FA in 2013 if he declines.

bears88
06-24-2012, 09:05 PM
This
And why we would want to take back wright, when we already have a streaky shooter in korver

I actually like Wright, I think he is a good solid player.

NYG 2000
06-24-2012, 09:06 PM
Deng+noah+boozer and the Bobcats 2016 pick for hornets 10th,lewis,and jack
.. Get it done garpax!!!

yaswaggin
06-24-2012, 09:07 PM
2015 I think

2014 if he accepts his player option. He can hit FA in 2013 if he declines.

Lol hes definitely taking that player option, probably a lot of dough and he won't ever get another big contract

Cubby
06-24-2012, 09:07 PM
Deng+noah+boozer and the Bobcats 2016 pick for hornets 10th,lewis,and jack
.. Get it done garpax!!!

I legitimately think this is the worst trade idea I've ever seen. You traded three starters for one possible starter.

bears88
06-24-2012, 09:07 PM
ewww I dont want no part of Lewis or jack.

Cubby
06-24-2012, 09:07 PM
Lol hes definitely taking that player option, probably a lot of dough and he won't ever get another big contract

Obviously, but I'm only repeating what it says about his contract.

ThunderousDemon
06-24-2012, 09:07 PM
Yeah **** taking in that contract

2011-12: $9,000,000.
2012-13: $9,000,000.
2013-14: $9,000,000 [Player Option].
2014-15: UFA

Here's the link to the website

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nba/1051/andris-biedrins

dainfamous
06-24-2012, 09:10 PM
Mediocre trade for the Warriors.

Deng is better than Jefferson/Wright but not #7 draft pick better.

Would rather stick with the Jefferson/Wright combo and pick up a player at the 7 spot rather than get slight improvement with Deng and lose a high draft pick.

NYG 2000
06-24-2012, 09:11 PM
Deng+noah+boozer and the Bobcats 2016 pick for hornets 10th,lewis,and jack
.. Get it done garpax!!!

I legitimately think this is the worst trade idea I've ever seen. You traded three starters for one possible starter.

And I'm bringing back the 10th pick, and the ability to tank for as season until rose comes back

Cubby
06-24-2012, 09:12 PM
And I'm bringing back the 10th pick, and the ability to tank for as season until rose comes back

Tell me where in the draft we will replace Noah's impact that is even plausible.

LTBaByyy
06-24-2012, 09:12 PM
Bulls should get Jenkins back too!

Because they said they are not taking the team option on Watson

TheNumber37
06-24-2012, 09:14 PM
Warriors get better. But they do really become any better than fighting for the playoffs and a first round exit?
Bulls have a replacement for Asik because they probably won't match an over that is too high. Wright is serviceable and they also get the 7th pick to pair with Rose for the future. I'd say a shooter.

DeyAce
06-24-2012, 09:18 PM
Please for the love of God let this trade happen

tredigs
06-24-2012, 09:21 PM
****ing take it. Getting rid of a useless Beez and his contract + a very poorly performing D. Wright? YES please. Warriors are rumored to potentially be taking Drummond with the 7th pick, and I don't want him. I wanted Beal or Barnes, but they won't fall to 7.

Take this deal, then package our new 29th + 35th pick to Boston for Boston's 21st or 22nd pick. With that they can take either Perry Jones or Terrence Jones; both have great size and athleticism and can play either the 3 or 4 in the NBA.

PG: Steph Curry

SG: Klay Thompson

SF: Deng

PF: D. Lee

C: Bogut

6th man: (21st pick: one of the Jones')
7th man: Richard Jefferson
8th man: (30th pick: Fab Melo, Doron Lamb, Tony Wroten?)


We also have the 52nd pick in the draft. So maybe that and the 30th could be packaged as well. This would be fantastic.

Cubby
06-24-2012, 09:26 PM
Please for the love of God let this trade happen

For once, we agree my friend. Asik would be expendable in a trade as well.

NYG 2000
06-24-2012, 09:27 PM
And I'm bringing back the 10th pick, and the ability to tank for as season until rose comes back

Tell me where in the draft we will replace Noah's impact that is even plausible.

Chef lingiini aka butter fingers aka omer asik :)

Mousedog332
06-24-2012, 09:28 PM
Im going to miss deng, but this trade will benefit the team in the long run. If it happens.

FKNRUEHH925
06-24-2012, 09:29 PM
Mediocre trade for the Warriors.

Deng is better than Jefferson/Wright but not #7 draft pick better.

Would rather stick with the Jefferson/Wright combo and pick up a player at the 7 spot rather than get slight improvement with Deng and lose a high draft pick.

this i would rather try to strike a deal for Noah

Cubby
06-24-2012, 09:31 PM
this i would rather try to strike a deal for Noah

You're not getting Noah unless you have Dwight Howard ready with an extension.

bears88
06-24-2012, 09:32 PM
I dont think Howard wants to play for Chicago, Remember his preferred choice is New Jersey.

Cubby
06-24-2012, 09:34 PM
I dont think Howard wants to play for Chicago, Remember his preferred choice is New Jersey.

Exactly my point. Noah isn't going anywhere.

Roseb4Hoes
06-24-2012, 09:35 PM
This trade makes so much sense for both teams that it would be stupid not to make a deal. And lol at all the people saying no way to biedrins contract. Dude has a ETO so him and wright will come off the books next year. Thats bout 13 mil in cap and the #7 pick. This trade needs to happen.

bears88
06-24-2012, 09:35 PM
Exactly my point. Noah isn't going anywhere.

Howard is a drama Queen I dont want no part of that. Besides I value hustle and energy the most when it comes to centers and last but not least noah is ****ing awesome.

smiddy012
06-24-2012, 09:36 PM
Noah and deng for evans, 5th pick and a bad contract

Give me that, I and it's a done deal I'm not taking back biedrins for the 8th pick and Wright no way

I'd rather give up Noah and deng and bring back a talented shooting guard in evans and a pick

That is ****ing ********, sorry. That 5th turns into a bust and it goes down as one of the worse trades in history.

DeyAce
06-24-2012, 09:38 PM
Thomas Robinson will not be a bust

bears88
06-24-2012, 09:39 PM
Its going to be Davis, Robinson and Beal in that order I think lol.

NYG 2000
06-24-2012, 09:39 PM
Noah and deng for evans, 5th pick and a bad contract

Give me that, I and it's a done deal I'm not taking back biedrins for the 8th pick and Wright no way

I'd rather give up Noah and deng and bring back a talented shooting guard in evans and a pick

That is ****ing ********, sorry. That 5th turns into a bust and it goes down as one of the worse trades in history.

Noooo, we would gain tons of cap space for 2014 free agency and in 2015 Kevin love can opt out

Perfect trade

Lol

Phenomenonsense
06-24-2012, 09:40 PM
Hopefully GSW takes that deal. Even More likely the Pistons get MEYERS LEONARD!

3ballbomber
06-24-2012, 09:41 PM
Jimmy Butler is most likely never going to start. He'll end up being a better version of Ronnie Brewer that occasionally spot starts in case of an injury.

Wright is good. Ask any Heat fan or Warriors fan.
Heat fans wouldn't know Wright rode the bench in a suit most his career as a Heat and when he did play he was dissapointing which is why they traded him as soon as he was healthy. And anybody would thrive in Warriors offensive minded system yet he still only averaged about 9 pts in 27 mins or so.

Bulls don't want Wright unless he signs for pocket lint.

smiddy012
06-24-2012, 09:43 PM
Noooo, we would gain tons of cap space for 2014 free agency and in 2015 Kevin love can opt out

Perfect trade

Lol

I hope you are being sarcastic... but if not... who's the last big name Chicago signed via FA that didn't suck? Dennis Rodman is the last one who comes to mind....


This
And why we would want to take back wright, when we already have a streaky shooter in korver

Korver can't create his own shot for the life of him. If you watched the Philly series, which I doubt as you don't seem to be a bull fan, you would know Korver was completely shut down by Phillys athleticism.


Deng+noah+boozer and the Bobcats 2016 pick for hornets 10th,lewis,and jack
.. Get it done garpax!!!

Once again, I hope you are being sarcastic...

effen5
06-24-2012, 09:44 PM
Ummmmm, no thanks, I I wanna move deng, but don't want any part not biedrins or wright

If we get biedrins, and might as well move noah for evans and start asik

Asik can't play a full game, you know that right? He doesn't have the stamina like Noah does. Besides with Biedrins coming back, that makes Asik expendable and teams LOVE Asik.

justinnum1
06-24-2012, 09:44 PM
wright had his moments in miami, but they came few and far between. he is a mediocre backup at best. deng is an underrated 2 way player. bulls are obviously doing this for the future as they should but its a big gamble.

bears88
06-24-2012, 09:45 PM
wright had his moments in miami, but they came few and far between. he is a mediocre backup at best. deng is an underrated 2 way player. bulls are obviously doing this for the future as they should but its a big gamble.

sometimes you have to take a big gamble like that its worth the risk imo. :shrug:

justinnum1
06-24-2012, 09:46 PM
sometimes you have to take a big gamble like that its worth the risk imo. :shrug:

I think it depends on who they take with the pick...

Bulls would be a 6-8 seed with that trade next season imo, but i would like to know who they take with that pick. I have always said they need a second star so i will wait and see what other moves they make

Cubby
06-24-2012, 09:48 PM
I think it depends on who they take with the pick...

Bulls would be a 6-8 seed with that trade next season imo, but i would like to know who they take with that pick.

Remember, acquiring Biedrins makes Asik expendable. We could potentially acquire an OJ Mayo or a Courtney Lee with him.

justinnum1
06-24-2012, 09:49 PM
Remember, acquiring Biedrins makes Asik expendable. We could potentially acquire an OJ Mayo or a Courtney Lee with him.

More role players...still going to need a star imo.

smiddy012
06-24-2012, 09:49 PM
I wouldn't mind this trade... I suppose we could re-sign Wright if he does well... IF we manage to get rid of Boozer's over-paid ***.

And Biedrins contract is ****ing scary... this trade would be made or broken based on the #7s performance IMO. I don't think we could get rid of Biedrins contract till it's up... so Asik would definitely be gone if this trade goes down, unless we plan on making Noah PF while shipping Boozer away for a bag of potato chips (which is not going to happen unfortunately). Although I'd love me some Noah/Asik as starters...

bears88
06-24-2012, 09:50 PM
I posted this in the Bulls fourm I dont know how much you want to take it but here it goes

Ever since the Chicago Bulls’ season came to an end, trade rumors have swirled around some of the team’s stars. With The Finals over and the offseason already underway, talks surrounding players will only heat up.

Having spent nine seasons in the NBA, Luol Deng knows all about that reality. The 27-year-old forward has heard his name involved in trade rumors throughout his career, including recent weeks, and there have been several instances where a move sending him out of Chicago has appeared close.

However, Deng’s agent, Herb Rudoy, told ******.com on Sunday afternoon that the Bulls do not intend to deal Deng this offseason.

“The Bulls have indicated to me that they do not plan to trade him,” Rudoy said. “But as we know, anything is possible.”

http://basketball.******.com/blog/221669/Deng_Trade_Unlikely_Amid_Rumors

Cubby
06-24-2012, 09:51 PM
More role players...still going to need a star imo.

No, we really don't. We need another guy that can create his own shot. Both of those guys fit the bill.

Cubby
06-24-2012, 09:52 PM
I wouldn't mind this trade... I suppose we could re-sing Wright if he does well... IF we manage to get rid of Boozer's over-paid ***.

And Biedrins contract is ****ing scary... this trade would be made or broken based on the #7s performance IMO. I don't think we could get rid of Biedrins contract till it's up... so Asik would definitely be gone if this trade goes down, unless we plan on making Noah PF while shipping Boozer away for a bag of potato chips (which is not going to happen unfortunately).

Boozer will be amnestied when Mirotic comes over.

JordansBulls
06-24-2012, 09:52 PM
I like this move for the Bulls. Get rid of Deng and Noah for better 2nd and 3rd options. No need to pay that much for those guys unless you have a marquee 2nd guy to pair with Rose.

Cubby
06-24-2012, 09:53 PM
I like this move for the Bulls. Get rid of Deng and Noah for better 2nd and 3rd options. No need to pay that much for those guys unless you have a marquee 2nd guy to pair with Rose.

Where was Noah included?

justinnum1
06-24-2012, 09:54 PM
I like that the bulls are recognizing they need to do something, it will be interesting to see what pick they do get and who they take, not sure anyone outside the top 5 will be good enough tho.

bears88
06-24-2012, 09:56 PM
Yea after reading that story from Real GM I dont think Is going to be traded.

smiddy012
06-24-2012, 09:56 PM
If we trade Deng and Noah, the only leader this team will have next season is Taj, and he'll be on the ****ing bench behind Bozo the clown. If we were to trade Noah, we better damn well get some serious value for him.

effen5
06-24-2012, 09:58 PM
If we trade Deng and Noah, the only leader this team will have next season is Taj, and he'll be on the ****ing bench behind Bozo the clown. If we were to trade Noah, we better damn well get some serious value for him.

We're not trading Noah. There are only a handful of centers in the league and Noah is one of them.

smiddy012
06-24-2012, 09:58 PM
Boozer will be amnestied when Mirotic comes over.

Hopefully he comes in the 13-14 season then, that would work well...

Rose
Wright (assuming we re-sign)
?
Taj/Mirotic
Noah

Sounds sweet. Also I'm still not sold that Mirotic can't play SF, he's seems to have the athleticism and shooting for it.

SugeKnight
06-24-2012, 10:03 PM
Iggy>Deng>Anything there at 7

JordansBulls
06-24-2012, 10:06 PM
More role players...still going to need a star imo.

Agreed. Any Bulls fan who thinks otherwise needs to realize that no team wins multiple titles without multiple star players.

justinnum1
06-24-2012, 10:07 PM
Iggy>Deng>Anything there at 7

you never know, they can strike gold at #7, but its going to be hard to find a 2way player as good as deng.

smiddy012
06-24-2012, 10:11 PM
delete

Uncbball234
06-24-2012, 10:14 PM
First off I love this trade for the Bulls, personally i would take Lamb. I would have to think this would also lead to trading Asik. Asik to Boston for pick 21 sounds good to me. What do you think? Get it done Gar!:clap:

DeyAce
06-24-2012, 10:15 PM
I'd take Waiters over Lamb at 7

Chacarron
06-24-2012, 10:16 PM
Would the Bulls be open to Bynum + filler for Noah + Deng? Gives Rose a legitimate #2 option.

bears88
06-24-2012, 10:17 PM
lol No

DeyAce
06-24-2012, 10:18 PM
Hell no

smith&wesson
06-24-2012, 10:20 PM
why is he playing if he is injured

justinnum1
06-24-2012, 10:22 PM
bottom line is bulls need to find a legit # 2 star that can take the pressure and scoring load off rose so drose doesnt have to do so much, bulls should keep doing whatever it takes to find that 2nd star

Mousedog332
06-24-2012, 10:22 PM
It would be nice for the bulls since deng was postponing that wrist surgery until after the olympics.

ThunderousDemon
06-24-2012, 10:24 PM
Hell no

uuuhhh Hells yeah mane, take that deal. It's legit, I swear to Yahweh. Cross my heart (and hope to die). :up: :hi5: :cheers: :rock:

justinnum1
06-24-2012, 10:29 PM
It would be nice for the bulls since deng was postponing that wrist surgery until after the olympics.

dont see how that matters, bulls were not contending next year anyways

effen5
06-24-2012, 10:33 PM
why is he playing if he is injured

Great Britan saved their families lives.

Cubby
06-24-2012, 10:49 PM
Still waiting on my response, Justin.

justinnum1
06-24-2012, 11:10 PM
Still waiting on my response, Justin.

about?

akagiredsuns
06-24-2012, 11:27 PM
Don't know about this trade

Deng is a huge part of that team and his perimeter d is elite

Are they really gonna put dorell wright on Lebron in the playoffs?

Except when he's guarding Igoudala, Prince, or Durant. They easily dominate him. Deng has been fun. But he will command a big extension after next year. And he's peaked. 17 & 7 is all you're getting from him.

akagiredsuns
06-24-2012, 11:28 PM
Would the Bulls be open to Bynum + filler for Noah + Deng? Gives Rose a legitimate #2 option.

Have you lost your mind? :speechless: Give up Noah & Deng for just Bynum and a filler? :laugh2: Why don't you just hand Kobe his 6th trophy? Maybe the Lakers can do Gasol + the $9M trade exception to ORL for Howard. Then they will have:

Blake
Kobe
Deng
Noah
Howard

Your 2013 NBA Champion Lakers. FAIL! Wow just :facepalm:

HuRRiCaNeS324
06-24-2012, 11:51 PM
The Bulls doing this essentially means they are gonna rebuild. Replacing Deng with a rookie is gonna hurt their defense A LOT. And with no star presence to speak of until January, they might be in the lotto for 2013...

That was a quick fall from the top lol.

IndiansFan337
06-24-2012, 11:52 PM
There's no way the Bulls will get a better player than Deng at #7, so this trade makes no sense to me unless they are worried about Deng's long-term health. And I'm not sure why they would be after he was able to lead the NBA in mpg this season even with his injury.

bears88
06-24-2012, 11:55 PM
The Bulls doing this essentially means they are gonna rebuild. Replacing Deng with a rookie is gonna hurt their defense A LOT. And with no star presence to speak of until January, they might be in the lotto for 2013...

That was a quick fall from the top lol.

in the lotto not really, but between 10 -18 Range.

HuRRiCaNeS324
06-25-2012, 12:11 AM
in the lotto not really, but between 10 -18 Range.

Well thats still pretty much in the lotto lol.

But regardless wether Deng is traded, he might need surgery after the Olympics. Idk how long he would be out for but their lineup will consist of:

Watson
Hamilton
Korver or Butler/Rookie
Boozer
Noah

It would be like this at least for half the season and at that point management might just say screw it, and preserve Rose for a more competitive 2013-14 season. At that point they might have two promising rookies, that is if they trade Deng.

smiddy012
06-25-2012, 12:18 AM
Would the Bulls be open to Bynum + filler for Noah + Deng? Gives Rose a legitimate #2 option.

Call me crazy fellow Bulls fans but I would be all for this.... as long as Bynum signs an extension of course. DRose will be 24 as Bynum already is in October. It would free up cap space for sure. Mirotic would be a great fit next to Bynum not to mention...

Yeah, I think I'd be ****ing ecstatic with a core of Rose/Mirotic/Bynum going into 13/14. Then there's a good seven years or so of a dynasty window. And if you question Bynum's character just give him a year with Thibbs on his ***, you'll find yourself a grown *** man.

Of course it won't happen though, god damn it.

papipapsmanny
06-25-2012, 12:22 AM
Wiz should offer Ariza, and 2 for Deng and 29

5ass
06-25-2012, 12:22 AM
Well thats still pretty much in the lotto lol.

But regardless wether Deng is traded, he might need surgery after the Olympics. Idk how long he would be out for but their lineup will consist of:

Watson
Hamilton
Korver or Butler/Rookie
Boozer
Noah

It would be like this at least for half the season and at that point management might just say screw it, and preserve Rose for a more competitive 2013-14 season. At that point they might have two promising rookies, that is if they trade Deng.
And capspace if they amnesty biedrins next yr.

HuRRiCaNeS324
06-25-2012, 12:26 AM
I'm not a draft expert per say, but i do watch college basketball A LOT (maybe more than the NBA) and i gotta say if the Bulls can trade Deng and get Beal, that would be ridiculous. It is farfetched considering he's easily going top 5 and i doubt any of those teams give it up.

Another option is Jeremy Lamb who i think would excel in the Bulls because i've come to the conclusion that Lamb needs someone to create for him and Rose can do just that. His shot could extend to the 3 and is great at driving it in when he wants to. And in the NBA i don't think he's gonna want to that much lol. He has to put on a few pounds in order for him to be comfortable taking it in. Also Lamb is long as hell and pesky on D.

Terrence Ross is a possible pick for the Bulls. He's super athletic and has a great shot. But i honestly think he is gonna end up being just an average player, if the Bulls draft him to replace Deng, they will regret it imo.

I read the Bulls are interested in Rivers and i hope they get him because he would be terrible there lol. This guy thinks he is a super star and WILL try to steal the spotlight from Rose and take at least 5 ill advised shots a game. He was the most streaky player in college basketball and when he was bad, he was BAD. He literally stops trying.

bears88
06-25-2012, 12:27 AM
There is no way in hell Beal would drop to 7 lol.

justinnum1
06-25-2012, 12:28 AM
beal is a top 4 pick easily, and if not someone would jump the bulls to grab him if he fell past 5

HuRRiCaNeS324
06-25-2012, 12:30 AM
There is no way in hell Beal would drop to 7 lol.

Yea i know. The only possibility is trying to trade into the top 5 which is what i was trying to say.

bears88
06-25-2012, 12:34 AM
Yea i know. The only possibility is trying to trade into the top 5 which is what i was trying to say.

lol my bad if I misunderstood you. :p

papipapsmanny
06-25-2012, 12:36 AM
thats why im saying wiz should swap Ariza for Deng, and 2 for 29 and maybe a future pick

Bulls could get Beal

Rose
Beal
Ariza
Boozer
Noah

Wiz could take a SG with 29 and and BPA with #2 in the 2nd round say John Jenkins and Festus Ezeli

Wall
Crawford/Jenkins/Mason (resign cheap
Deng/Vesely/Singleton
Nene/Booker
Okefor/Seraphin/Ezeli

Amnesty Blatche

Man I would actually be excited for the Wiz, too bad Ernie doesn't want a good team

Chacarron
06-25-2012, 12:40 AM
Call me crazy fellow Bulls fans but I would be all for this.... as long as Bynum signs an extension of course. DRose will be 24 as Bynum already is in October. It would free up cap space for sure. Mirotic would be a great fit next to Bynum not to mention...

Yeah, I think I'd be ****ing ecstatic with a core of Rose/Mirotic/Bynum going into 13/14. Then there's a good seven years or so of a dynasty window. And if you question Bynum's character just give him a year with Thibbs on his ***, you'll find yourself a grown *** man.

Of course it won't happen though, god damn it.

I expected a few more responses like this one. I mean, would you rather have Biedrins + pick or Andrew Bynum?

justinnum1
06-25-2012, 12:47 AM
biedrins>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>bynum






















;)

smiddy012
06-25-2012, 12:52 AM
I expected a few more responses like this one. I mean, would you rather have Biedrins + pick or Andrew Bynum?

well to be fair we'd be trading away Noah too... and I could see why LA would make that deal... just put Noah at PF on defense and then Gasol at PF on offense and they would work well together. then if you found a decent PG somehow that would probably be the most thoroughly solid starting lineup in the league. Bulls get a 24 year old Center who's easily the best outside of DH to pair with the also young Rose. Win/Win scenario barring injuries.

rickshaw
06-25-2012, 01:00 AM
well to be fair we'd be trading away Noah too... and I could see why LA would make that deal... just put Noah at PF on defense and then Gasol at PF on offense and they would work well together. then if you found a decent PG somehow that would probably be the most thoroughly solid starting lineup in the league. Bulls get a 24 year old Center who's easily the best outside of DH to pair with the also young Rose. Win/Win scenario barring injuries.

Noah and Deng make ~24mill, Bynum makes ~16 and the Lakers are over the cap. The Bulls would have to take Blake and Mcroberts probably, or somehow get 6-8mill more back from LA.

smiddy012
06-25-2012, 01:08 AM
Noah and Deng make ~24mill, Bynum makes ~16 and the Lakers are over the cap. The Bulls would have to take Blake and Mcroberts probably, or somehow get 6-8mill more back from LA.

Yeah... this was mentioned already in his original post. There would have to be a filler.

Evolution23
06-25-2012, 01:17 AM
I think its a good move for both teams. GS has Bogut already so they don't really need Beidris and Deng would be the consistent 2nd option. Bulls can get that scoring 2 guard they wanted for the last 2 seasons while Rose recovers.

Sinestro
06-25-2012, 01:22 AM
Don't want no part of Biedrins contract, that's terrible I'll keep Deng

b@llhog24
06-25-2012, 01:31 AM
Mediocre trade for the Warriors.

Deng is better than Jefferson/Wright but not #7 draft pick better.

Would rather stick with the Jefferson/Wright combo and pick up a player at the 7 spot rather than get slight improvement with Deng and lose a high draft pick.

What's so special about the 7th pick in this draft for the Warriors? :confused:


wright had his moments in miami, but they came few and far between. he is a mediocre backup at best. deng is an underrated 2 way player. bulls are obviously doing this for the future as they should but its a big gamble.

If you really think that then. :pity:


Would the Bulls be open to Bynum + filler for Noah + Deng? Gives Rose a legitimate #2 option.

Chicago rapes in that deal, but why would you want to trade Bynum?


in the lotto not really, but between 10 -18 Range.

Lottery is top 14. Or at least I think so. Lol.


Call me crazy fellow Bulls fans but I would be all for this.... as long as Bynum signs an extension of course. DRose will be 24 as Bynum already is in October. It would free up cap space for sure. Mirotic would be a great fit next to Bynum not to mention...

Yeah, I think I'd be ****ing ecstatic with a core of Rose/Mirotic/Bynum going into 13/14. Then there's a good seven years or so of a dynasty window. And if you question Bynum's character just give him a year with Thibbs on his ***, you'll find yourself a grown *** man.

Of course it won't happen though, god damn it.

This guy^. :clap:


And capspace if they amnesty biedrins next yr.

Can't use your amnesty on a player that wasn't on your roster when it became available.


I think its a good move for both teams. GS has Bogut already so they don't really need Beidris and Deng would be the consistent 2nd option. Bulls can get that scoring 2 guard they wanted for the last 2 seasons while Rose recovers.

Actually Deng would be the fourth option behind Curry, Bogut, and Lee.

daWarriorz21
06-25-2012, 01:35 AM
i love this trade!! Hopefully pulls thru!!

sf-fanatic
06-25-2012, 01:41 AM
What's so special about the 7th pick in this draft for the Warriors? :confused:



If you really think that then. :pity:



Chicago rapes in that deal, but why would you want to trade Bynum?



Lottery is top 14. Or at least I think so. Lol.



This guy^. :clap:



Can't use your amnesty on a player that wasn't on your roster when it became available.



Actually Deng would be the fourth option behind Curry, Bogut, and Lee.

I would also put Klay Thompson as a higher option than Deng in termd of scoring.

Raptors15
06-25-2012, 01:55 AM
If the warriors due this trade they are obviously trying to make a playoff push. As for the bulls this is definitely a gamble for them, but they could add a nice talent with the 7th pick.

Public Enemy #1
06-25-2012, 02:10 AM
I think this would be an absolute steal for the Dubs. We get rid of Biedrins terrible contract and bad attitude, D.Wright, and the 7th pick. In return, we get one of the better small forwards in the league that can play legitimate defense. From a Warriors fan standpoint, its an easy call.

Theschrems101
06-25-2012, 02:18 AM
IF the Blulls can expand on this trade something close to this
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=88kx83f
with the 7th pick to the Bulls
I would cream my pants

Kidd/Rose
Rip
Barnes/Turkoglu
Gasol
Noah

dainfamous
06-25-2012, 02:20 AM
Originally Posted by b@llhog24
What's so special about the 7th pick in this draft for the Warriors?

Whats so special about Deng that the Warriors should give up the 7th pick?

The Bulls want to trade Deng cuz guess what he's the 3rd best option on the a good team. He couldn't do it when Rose was injured. His game never went up another level.

What do the Bulls want? A second scorer who can create his own shot to alleviate the pressure on Derrick Rose.

Again Deng is better than Dorell Wright / Richard Jefferson. He's just not better than the production of those 2 overall along with the 7th pick.

The 7th pick is an asset right now. Up until the draft and the pick is selected it is more flexible than Luol Deng.

You put Deng on the Warriors he improves the team marginally he's not a big enough difference maker to take a team to the next level.

Warriors need more Tier 1 players. Deng is Tier 3 player along with the starting lineup of the Warriors mostly unproven Tier 3 players.

The draft is a crapshoot who knows but its better to take a flier on someone especially since the Warriors aren't gonna win anything.

Theschrems101
06-25-2012, 02:25 AM
It sickens me how under valued Deng is! he is a top 50 player give or take 5 spots.

Theschrems101
06-25-2012, 02:27 AM
top 30 players I would consider tier 1, top 60 tier 2, top 90 tier 3. Deng is no way any worse than top 60 making him a tier 2

Monta is beast
06-25-2012, 02:50 AM
I love this trade as a Warriors fan. You can't question Deng's defense, and he wouldn' be a bad fourth option on offense either. Not to mention that if Kidd-Gilchrist or Barnes don't fall to 7, there isn't really a player that could fill a need. This trade would feel a void, we get rid of a terrible contract, and we also get a 1st round pick in a deep draft? I'm jumping all over that. And there are rumors that Oaklahoma City would like to trade us there 1st round pick for the 35th pick and the 52nd pick. That would give us three picks in the late 1st round.

Monta is beast
06-25-2012, 02:55 AM
Originally Posted by b@llhog24
What's so special about the 7th pick in this draft for the Warriors?

Whats so special about Deng that the Warriors should give up the 7th pick?

The Bulls want to trade Deng cuz guess what he's the 3rd best option on the a good team. He couldn't do it when Rose was injured. His game never went up another level.

What do the Bulls want? A second scorer who can create his own shot to alleviate the pressure on Derrick Rose.

Again Deng is better than Dorell Wright / Richard Jefferson. He's just not better than the production of those 2 overall along with the 7th pick.

The 7th pick is an asset right now. Up until the draft and the pick is selected it is more flexible than Luol Deng.

You put Deng on the Warriors he improves the team marginally he's not a big enough difference maker to take a team to the next level.

Warriors need more Tier 1 players. Deng is Tier 3 player along with the starting lineup of the Warriors mostly unproven Tier 3 players.

The draft is a crapshoot who knows but its better to take a flier on someone especially since the Warriors aren't gonna win anything.

I'm sorry but if this trade goes through, I can see the Warrriors competing in the top half of the Western Conference. People seriosuly underate both Bogut and Deng, Thompson can flat out score, and Curry should reach his potential with Ellis gone.

Theschrems101
06-25-2012, 03:21 AM
I'm sorry but if this trade goes through, I can see the Warrriors competing in the top half of the Western Conference. People seriosuly underate both Bogut and Deng, Thompson can flat out score, and Curry should reach his potential with Ellis gone.

Finally a non Bull fan seeing Dengs value. I seriously feel the Bulls are one of the most hated teams outside of Chicago considering that people do nothing but say they are full of terrible contracts.

dainfamous
06-25-2012, 03:21 AM
It would be a decent starting 5 no doubt but no one on the starting 5 can create their own shot. None of the 5 would be able to beat their man off the dribble.
Decent outside shooters.

What makes matters worst is your not sure if the point guard is really a creator for everyone else on the team. Jury still out on Stephen Curry.

When the clocks ticking and you need someone to create which person is gonna be holding that ball?

b@llhog24
06-25-2012, 03:50 AM
I would also put Klay Thompson as a higher option than Deng in termd of scoring.

I respectfully disagree, I like Klay (he's a Bahamian) but while he had a good rookie year, I'll refrain from putting him over the all-star in Deng at the moment.


Originally Posted by b@llhog24
What's so special about the 7th pick in this draft for the Warriors?

Whats so special about Deng that the Warriors should give up the 7th pick?

The Bulls want to trade Deng cuz guess what he's the 3rd best option on the a good team. He couldn't do it when Rose was injured. His game never went up another level.

What do the Bulls want? A second scorer who can create his own shot to alleviate the pressure on Derrick Rose.

Again Deng is better than Dorell Wright / Richard Jefferson. He's just not better than the production of those 2 overall along with the 7th pick.

The 7th pick is an asset right now. Up until the draft and the pick is selected it is more flexible than Luol Deng.

You put Deng on the Warriors he improves the team marginally he's not a big enough difference maker to take a team to the next level.

Warriors need more Tier 1 players. Deng is Tier 3 player along with the starting lineup of the Warriors mostly unproven Tier 3 players.

The draft is a crapshoot who knows but its better to take a flier on someone especially since the Warriors aren't gonna win anything.

The quote button is your friend man. And who do you think would be available that can offer more than Deng could?


I love this trade as a Warriors fan. You can't question Deng's defense, and he wouldn' be a bad fourth option on offense either. Not to mention that if Kidd-Gilchrist or Barnes don't fall to 7, there isn't really a player that could fill a need. This trade would feel a void, we get rid of a terrible contract, and we also get a 1st round pick in a deep draft? I'm jumping all over that. And there are rumors that Oaklahoma City would like to trade us there 1st round pick for the 35th pick and the 52nd pick. That would give us three picks in the late 1st round.

:nod:

smiddy012
06-25-2012, 04:05 AM
Dengs a capable #3 on a championship team IMO (assuming you have a 1 and a 2 of course). The problem though is this last season his injury ****ed things up for him, he stopped driving to the hoop and his shot suffered. Deng has gotten better every season throughout his career, barring future injuries I don't think he's reached his peak. It defenitely would be a gamble for the Bulls to trade him for a possible bust, and the only way I would take Biedrins is if we got something worthwhile in the works via trading Asik. Otherwise I'm not too confident in this move.

YoungOne
06-25-2012, 04:23 AM
that would be nice, would make brandon rush more available who I really want on my celtics.

SugeKnight
06-25-2012, 04:28 AM
Warriors GM said theyre matching any reasonable offers for Rush

YoungOne
06-25-2012, 04:57 AM
I guess he would think twice about that if he aquires dengs contract.

sf-fanatic
06-25-2012, 05:05 AM
I respectfully disagree, I like Klay (he's a Bahamian) but while he had a good rookie year, I'll refrain from putting him over the all-star in Deng at the moment.



The quote button is your friend man. And who do you think would be available that can offer more than Deng could?



:nod:

I'm not saying Thompson is a better player than Deng right now, Deng is the better all around player by a wide margin but if we were counting scoring only, I would have to give Thompson the nod.

Monta is beast
06-25-2012, 05:06 AM
I guess he would think twice about that if he aquires dengs contract.

Not really, were getting rid of Biedrins' contract.

YoungOne
06-25-2012, 05:19 AM
Not really, were getting rid of Biedrins' contract.

good luck with that.

edit: just read that bulls offered to take biedrins in the deal, well this deal would be perfect for you.

Champology
06-25-2012, 05:52 AM
Good trade for the Warriors. Deng is still young (just turned 27 in April) and he's consistent, he had a bit of a down year, but he's going to give the Warriors 16 and 6 to go along with great defense.

Curry

Thompson

Deng

Lee

Bogut


are a playoff team provided everyone is healthy.





You know he made the all-star team right?

Champology
06-25-2012, 05:56 AM
This year (first half) was the best Deng you'll eva see, BUT he was a complete joke the second half....this dude goes invisible come playoff time every year...Hes in his prime but that won't last long and he make more money than he is worth is this the 2nd best guy on a team? he gets paid like one....MOVE HIM NOW

raptor fan
06-25-2012, 11:23 AM
This deal could have a big impact on the draft with regards to the raptors, which is why I have such an interest in this possible deal. I think this is a good deal for both teams; GS gets the SF that they're looking for, while getting rid of a bad contract in Biedrins/Jefferson, and Chicago gets the young SG that they're looking for by moving up in the draft.

ARose
06-25-2012, 11:41 AM
The Bulls have privately assured Luol Deng that there's "no chance" of a deal sending him to the Warriors, league source tells Y!

Woj

nycericanguy
06-25-2012, 11:48 AM
I wouldn't give up the #7 for Deng if I'm GS. Deng is solid but he's never really taken that "next step" to his game.

CHI needs a second or third scorer and they want to get rid of him, that tells you something. He gets paid almost as much as Lebron, he's not worth his contract and he's been hurt almost every year.

If I"m GS I use that pick to try to get Iggy or Gay instead. Iggy is a better all around player and is not injury prone.

eternal slumber
06-25-2012, 11:49 AM
Woj

ouch for the Warriors, this would have been a great deal for them.

DeyAce
06-25-2012, 11:51 AM
I knew this trade would never happen. GarPax never makes big moves

Stinkyoutsider
06-25-2012, 01:08 PM
There is no way I make this deal if I'm the Bulls. Why would i want to trade for a center who's an exact copy of Noah and Wright along with a pick?

I wouldn't mind moving Deng, especially after last year. It seems that he turned into a jumpshooter who wouldn't attack the rim anymore. I know he was injured for most of the season and probably didn't want to cause more damage to it, but I wouldn't want to pay $15 million a season to a jumpshooter who plays good defense. Bulls trying to dump salary is a good idea but not for this deal?

Deng would be a good fit for the Warriors. He's the glue guy for our team so I know he would fill the same role well in Golden State.

Mano86
06-25-2012, 01:35 PM
no way the bulls offered this deal. their primary goal in trading Deng/Noah is to get a lottery pick to complement Rose and financial flexibility to sign a free agent. taking back Wright and/or Biedrins/RJ would be counter productive to the bulls plans in my opinion.

here's article from a bulls beat writer about the bulls plans. not a guy in london.

This includes trading Luol Deng to move into Thursday's lottery portion of the NBA draft. However, one league executive who has had conversations with the Bulls said he still considers a trade of Deng a long shot. And a trade of Deng to the Golden State Warriors, a bad rumor that won't die, isn't happening.

The entire purpose of trading Deng, which management isn't dying to do, would be to do so to a team that can absorb Deng's contract into its salary-cap space, thus eliminating the need to take back salary. This would allow the Bulls to draft a young player -- who would remain on a rookie contract -- to develop and pair alongside Rose when he returns to full strength and also chase a veteran point guard with the full midlevel exception this summer in free agency to cover for when Rose sits.

If the Bulls keep Deng on the payroll, still more likely than not, and match an offer on restricted free agent Omer Asik, their luxury tax concerns remain. That would limit what they would spend on Rose's replacement while he rehabilitates from knee surgery.

Golden State is over the salary cap and thus would have to send back salaries close to Deng's $13.3 million salary for next season. That doesn't interest the Bulls.


Link (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/chi-bullswarriors-rumors-nothing-but-hot-air-20120625,0,5430857.story?track=rss)

JordansBulls
06-25-2012, 01:42 PM
Woj

Makes sense. No need to take back those contracts either.

stlbest5in2013
06-25-2012, 02:34 PM
Ummmmm, no thanks, I I wanna move deng, but don't want any part not biedrins or wright

If we get biedrins, and might as well move noah for evans and start asik



Hooked on phonics is at your door, study it well.

stlbest5in2013
06-25-2012, 02:36 PM
UK source... Then again I think Deng is there atm.


Huh? Deng is in TX working out with the British Olympic team.

stlbest5in2013
06-25-2012, 02:40 PM
Exactly, this deal isn't happening, but we could trade Deng away for a top 15 pick and an expiring contract somewhere I bet


Are you dumb or just play a moron on the internet? To get something you have to get something.

Deng for a mid pick? Please and you are bjtching about a lotto pick that you do not like. You are not going to get anyone better at 15, than you are at 7 moron!

stlbest5in2013
06-25-2012, 02:44 PM
[QUOTE=TheNumber37;22643370]Warriors get better. But they do really become any better than fighting for the playoffs and a first round exit?
Bulls have a replacement for Asik because they probably


Ummmm what? The bulls have came out and said they will match any and all offers for Asik. So come again?

stlbest5in2013
06-25-2012, 02:48 PM
IF the Blulls can expand on this trade something close to this
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=88kx83f
with the 7th pick to the Bulls
I would cream my pants

Kidd/Rose
Rip
Barnes/Turkoglu
Gasol
Noah



That is a pile of crap! Barnes is 99.99% for sure not going to be there at #7, and turdoglu and then the white Boozer in Gasol?

stlbest5in2013
06-25-2012, 02:50 PM
no way the bulls offered this deal. their primary goal in trading Deng/Noah is to get a lottery pick to complement Rose and financial flexibility to sign a free agent. taking back Wright and/or Biedrins/RJ would be counter productive to the bulls plans in my opinion.

here's article from a bulls beat writer about the bulls plans. not a guy in london.


Link (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/chi-bullswarriors-rumors-nothing-but-hot-air-20120625,0,5430857.story?track=rss)


Yes because Golden State wasted money and time to watch Deng work out with his Olympic team in TX. You know because members on GS staff are on the Olympic staff.


:facepalm:

boogydown
06-25-2012, 02:59 PM
I mentioned the Warriors talks with the Bulls weeks ago on another forum. I also mentioned the contact I have said the deals broke up about 3 weeks ago when the Bulls required cap relief. The Warriors shifted back to finding other teams who have apparently shown no interest either. Since then they have been trying to find a third team. Maybe talks Heat up later if they can find a third team but as of now it appears VERY unlikely.

stlbest5in2013
06-25-2012, 03:02 PM
Bulls should do it. It is the best they can get.

Getting a mid draft pick for Deng is a phucking waste! That is the only way you can move his salary, move him to a team far enough under the cap to absorb it. That makes no sense, you want a lotto pick and GS wants Deng, you pull the trigger. You take back Biendrins, and let him get 15 mins a game tops behind Asik so he wants to decline his player option and is going after the 2013 season.

You are not going to get J. Lamb, Rives, or Waiters at 15,16,17,18 etc so a trade of Deng for one of those picks is of total mental incompetence.

stlbest5in2013
06-25-2012, 03:03 PM
I mentioned the Warriors talks with the Bulls weeks ago on another forum. I also mentioned the contact I have said the deals broke up about 3 weeks ago when the Bulls required cap relief. The Warriors shifted back to finding other teams who have apparently shown no interest either. Since then they have been trying to find a third team. Maybe talks Heat up later if they can find a third team but as of now it appears VERY unlikely.


Probably true, but GS would not be watching him workout if there was no chance of this happening. Sorry watching him work out for circle jerking reasons is moronic.

Deng may not get traded and as a Bulls fan I am fine with that. But this situation is very fluid right now.

b@llhog24
06-25-2012, 03:09 PM
It would be a decent starting 5 no doubt but no one on the starting 5 can create their own shot. None of the 5 would be able to beat their man off the dribble.
Decent outside shooters.

What makes matters worst is your not sure if the point guard is really a creator for everyone else on the team. Jury still out on Stephen Curry.

When the clocks ticking and you need someone to create which person is gonna be holding that ball?

Steph Curry can beat a lot of guys of the dribble and Bogut is a back to the basket center, how is it that none of them can create their own shot? Also if your worried about passing when you have Curry, Thompson, Deng, Lee and Bogut all excellent passers for their positions then I don't know what to say about that.


You know he made the all-star team right?

Still had a down year.

MagicBucsSox
06-25-2012, 03:09 PM
Luol Deng has received assurance from the Bulls that there is "no chance" he is traded to the Warriors, league sources tell Yahoo! Sports.
We never really understood how these rumors began to swirl considering the current situation the Warriors are in as it relates to cap space. Chicago's reasoning behind any potential Deng deal would be for cap relief, and the Warriors are a team that has their hands tied in terms of financial flexibility. It really never made any sense, and we should be able to effectively bury this "rumor" going forward.


Bulls beat writer Sam Smith believes Luol Deng will remain with the team.
Rumors are swirling around Deng, but Smith writes that the small forward will "probably" begin next season with the team. It's hard to imagine any potentially interested team giving up a lot for Deng given his cumbersome contract and wrist injury (which will eventually require surgery), and the Bulls would be foolish to sell the All-Star at a discount.
Source: NBA.com Jun 25 - 11:09 AM.

DR_1
06-25-2012, 03:23 PM
If Sam Smith says he's staying he'll probably be traded before dinner

Cubby
06-25-2012, 03:24 PM
He probably won't get traded to the Warriors because of the lack of cap relief.

stlbest5in2013
06-25-2012, 03:40 PM
If Sam Smith says he's staying he'll probably be traded before dinner


Gotta do it to ya, got to. Your sig, the NEXT GREAT WHITE (in this case Cuban) HYPE of the Cubs.

LakersA's49ers
06-25-2012, 03:41 PM
warriors need to take that deal. shore up the defense, and he can do the occasional scoring as well. great compliment to a curry,thompson backcourt

49GiantWarriors
06-25-2012, 04:01 PM
Please don't pull the trigger Deng is a huge concern and he isnt much of a game changer. We would have three players we would have to worry about injury. I would rather draft at 7.
If it does happen my initial reaction would be dissapointed but as a fan u have to support and respect your organizations decisions. Hopefully Deng could prove me wrong.

PhillyBoomerang
06-25-2012, 04:01 PM
i like that deal for both clubs, deng would be a great fit in Oakland with the rest of the rebuilding situation, he is a lock down defender and one of the underrated players in the league. we will have to watch the draft to see what happens..

Vincent
06-25-2012, 04:58 PM
Please don't pull the trigger Deng is a huge concern and he isnt much of a game changer. We would have three players we would have to worry about injury. I would rather draft at 7.
If it does happen my initial reaction would be dissapointed but as a fan u have to support and respect your organizations decisions. Hopefully Deng could prove me wrong.

I don't see a game changer at 7th that would fit well on the Warriors.

Deng is a game changer, whether people realize it or not. I would much rather keep Deng and his all-round game than ship him for a gamble at #7. But the salaries are not permitting the Bulls to be able to keep the entire core intact.

Monta is beast
06-25-2012, 09:39 PM
Chicago apparently said they won't trade Deng to the Warriors, but this close to the draft almost everything you hear is a lie. I really like this deal as a Warriors fan, so I hope it does go through.

ichitownclowni
06-25-2012, 09:42 PM
Heard on the radio they will not trade bin to the warriors so I am assuming they declined

Sactown
06-25-2012, 09:44 PM
Why are the warriors picking up every injury risked player? Why not trade away more assets for Oden and sign B.Roy

ImDaBaron
06-25-2012, 10:16 PM
Why are the warriors picking up every injury risked player? Why not trade away more assets for Oden and sign B.Roy

:facepalm:

Monta is beast
06-25-2012, 10:23 PM
I don't understand why they would make an offer, than tell him there not trading him. Unless the article was wrong.

ichitownclowni
06-25-2012, 10:26 PM
IMO I think that the Warriors declined the deal and they told Deng they are not trading him. At least not to the Warriors......................

Losoway
06-26-2012, 12:20 AM
damn why is the bulls tryna gut there roster???

broncosfan4eva
06-26-2012, 12:30 AM
damn why is the bulls tryna gut there roster???

get rid of the bad contracts...while rose is out possibly get another lottery pick and then after the upcoming season have a good combo of rose/lottery pick and FA's

Monta is beast
06-26-2012, 12:41 AM
Do you think they could just be saying that in case a deal doesn't get worked out. Man I really really want Deng on our squad, dude is just a good all around player.

49GiantWarriors
06-26-2012, 12:52 AM
Damn every time I go to the homepage I keep thinking that it says Deng traded to Warriors
and Rockets acquire Dwight

Monta is beast
06-26-2012, 01:01 AM
Damn every time I go to the homepage I keep thinking that it says Deng traded to Warriors
and Rockets acquire Dwight

Excluding the Dwight to the Rockets part, I wish!

bears88
06-26-2012, 01:15 AM
This rumor turned out to be false, besides it doesn't make sense for the Bulls to take on anther contract.

Wolfman01
06-26-2012, 03:36 AM
The Warriors have 4 players who have 3 years or more contracted that makes more then 9 million a year on their roster. Warriors will like to get rid of Biedrins contract and maybe Jefferson also. I don't see how this is going to work. The Warriors don't want to take in another big contract.

ichitownclowni
06-26-2012, 07:14 AM
It was false..................