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Slimsim
06-22-2012, 12:04 AM
Maybe Dwight ?

meloman1592
06-22-2012, 12:05 AM
Melo

ironkobe
06-22-2012, 12:06 AM
kobe got to tie MJ

*Silver&Black*
06-22-2012, 12:08 AM
Would be nice to see: Nash I guess
Pressure?: I would say Howard, being the "great" big man of this time, usually they dominate the league. Add Kobe for selfish reasons.

LAKobeBryant
06-22-2012, 12:10 AM
lebron he promised 6 or was it 7. he still gets no respect me with his big mouth. and 1 ring is nothing tbh when your the best player in the world

ShockerArt
06-22-2012, 12:10 AM
Howard, Rose, Durant

Slimsim
06-22-2012, 12:11 AM
Maybe cp3

black1605
06-22-2012, 12:11 AM
Durant.

Gibby
06-22-2012, 12:11 AM
Chris Paul. its not his fault though.

JWO35
06-22-2012, 12:12 AM
LeBron...oh wait :sad2:
Dwight & Carmelo

BHF
06-22-2012, 12:15 AM
lebron he promised 6 or was it 7. he still gets no respect me with his big mouth.and 1 ring is nothing tbh when your the best player in the world

even if he won 6 or 7 you would find something else to hate on

MagicBucsSox
06-22-2012, 12:16 AM
Dwight Howard is On a lottery team, not fair

Il Mago50
06-22-2012, 12:16 AM
Dwight to a certain extent because of the whole Big Man domination which he really hasn't done in comparison to Shaq.

Kobe can't really be under pressure because he's already cemented himself at least in same MJ convo, 6th ring would just push him to that level.

I'd say the pressure is on no one really.

koreancabbage
06-22-2012, 12:16 AM
not sure about Dwight- he has to demand a trade first(done), get traded, and then declare he's ready to make the next step. When and if he gets settled in with his new team- atm in time, then yes.

Carmelo- not really- he has no legacy to uphold or greatness that must be matched by a championship.



Kobe to tie MJ's # of rings is going to be tough , def a candidate

Kevin Durant- been to the finals, probably one last try with this group of players before OKC can't afford them anymore.

Rose? maybe but with the injury, that burden has lessened

UPRock
06-22-2012, 12:18 AM
Durant definitely, he's going to be scary next year.

b@llhog24
06-22-2012, 12:19 AM
Melo

NBAFan2012
06-22-2012, 12:19 AM
None really. No one else dominates the game and makes teams championship contenders ala Lebron James, so no one really.

dh144498
06-22-2012, 12:20 AM
Durant.

FaM0us Skins
06-22-2012, 12:20 AM
Steve Nash

Fly
06-22-2012, 12:22 AM
No one, really.

koreancabbage
06-22-2012, 12:22 AM
lebron he promised 6 or was it 7. he still gets no respect me with his big mouth. and 1 ring is nothing tbh when your the best player in the world

other than the decision- i don't think he has said anything this season for anyone to hate him. he kept his mouth shut unless someone spoke out on him and/or his teammates, but other than that- he kept quiet, showed poised, told Chalmers to sTFU and not celebrate yet. He played to his max ability and its being rewarded- didn't really flop much in this finals- not saying he doesn't flop- but he didn't do that or much of it in this series. I think Harden flopped way more but who cares.

everything everyone hates on Lebron is really based on that summer of the decision.

wait for 5 years later, people won't even know why they hate him.

KNICKS R BACK
06-22-2012, 12:22 AM
Melo...hes the poster boy for underachievers...only been out of the 1st round 1 time in 9 years and hes the last elite player from that draft class without a ring

beasted86
06-22-2012, 12:23 AM
Carmelo.

Knick fans will call for his head if they exit in the first round again.

popo85
06-22-2012, 12:24 AM
CP3, Durant, Rose, Howard and Melo. Especially CP3 with the Clippers signing a billion players in a 2 month span with them still choking.

gatkins11
06-22-2012, 12:24 AM
Durant and Westbrook. They're going to have a lot of pressure to win the title next year IMO.

ChicagoFan4Eva
06-22-2012, 12:25 AM
CP3, Durant, Rose, Howard and Melo. Especially CP3 with the Clippers signing a billion players in a 2 month span with them still choking.

this

eibbor
06-22-2012, 12:25 AM
Durant without question. Stupid thread

Becks2307
06-22-2012, 12:26 AM
It's Lebron, seriously he has to win more than one ring.

Losoway
06-22-2012, 12:27 AM
every star who doesnt have a ring

Korman12
06-22-2012, 12:31 AM
I'll say Melo, because Durant has so much time and is expected to return in the very near future.

justinnum1
06-22-2012, 12:34 AM
time to repeat!

guru
06-22-2012, 12:35 AM
Stockton, Malone and Barkley.

celtisox41
06-22-2012, 12:35 AM
Melo...hes the poster boy for underachievers...only been out of the 1st round 1 time in 9 years and hes the last elite player from that draft class without a ring

Well that's because the other 3 got together because they couldn't win one on their own (Wade had Shaq). If Melo was on the heat instead of Lebron the Heat would still be champions

flatbush knicks
06-22-2012, 12:40 AM
Well that's because the other 3 got together because they couldn't win one on their own (Wade had Shaq). If Melo was on the heat instead of Lebron the Heat would still be champions
no no no you can't say that according to these people melo is the worst and lebron is the next jordan:facepalm:

flatbush knicks
06-22-2012, 12:43 AM
Carmelo.

Knick fans will call for his head if they exit in the first round again.

:facepalm: not if its tyson and melo vs the heat again

NYSPORTSALLDAY
06-22-2012, 01:02 AM
Melo

Method28
06-22-2012, 01:08 AM
Imo Durant. Seeing him get here and not getting it done will add to that. Especially with a couple of his performances (not saying he played BAD) but he left a lot to be desired.

Donuts365
06-22-2012, 01:13 AM
i would say melo but he havnt had a good team since he came inda league it always been him or bust if he dont score the teams wouldn't make the playoffs if he had a great team like heat celtics lakers mavs even okc but he dont i say dwight if he teams up with d will in bk tho if not then durant

D12 fan
06-22-2012, 01:14 AM
Dwight better demand a trade to Lakers/Clippers I don't see him going through Miami in the East.

justinnum1
06-22-2012, 01:15 AM
miami looks to have the east locked up for the next 4-5 years

Fnom11
06-22-2012, 01:15 AM
Lebron.

flatbush knicks
06-22-2012, 01:16 AM
Dwight better demand a trade to Lakers/Clippers I don't see him going through Miami in the East.
or the knicks :D

metsfan4ever
06-22-2012, 01:17 AM
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D12 fan
06-22-2012, 01:17 AM
or the knicks :D

Dwight/Carmelo will not get past Miami.

Dwight/Kobe or Dwight/CP3 could beat Miami.

heyman321
06-22-2012, 01:18 AM
Durant and Rose.

sixer04fan
06-22-2012, 01:19 AM
A little out of the box here, but T-Mac... Not that there's any pressure on him to carry a team to a title at this point, but getting out of the first round would be a nice start. I'd like to see him win one. And Iverson, but that's obviously even less likely. Nash too, hope he finds a good team this offseason.

In terms of star players now, the usual suspects - Dwight, Durant, Paul, Melo are next in line with pressure to carry a team all the way, but I don't think Melo can ever do it personally...

But Lebron has more pressure on himself to win multiple titles than any of those guys do to just win 1. For what's at stake for Lebron's legacy, potentially being a top 5 player of all time, he's got to get multiple rings. That's a lot more pressure than Dwight and the others will ever have on them to win just 1.

SportsNY
06-22-2012, 01:19 AM
I think Dwight Howard

sharqstealth
06-22-2012, 01:20 AM
Melo! Playing in a huge market; NY media; Knicks drought of championship; been out of the 1st round most of his career; his draft class buddies Lebron Wade Bosh already has rings. I don't think there is any player who has this kind of pressure other than him...

flatbush knicks
06-22-2012, 01:20 AM
Dwight/Carmelo will not get past Miami.

Dwight/Kobe or Dwight/CP3 could beat Miami.
lmao o yea shaq and kobe the 2012 version would have no chance :facepalm:
that crack you smoking must be good huh:speechless:

Iceman_9
06-22-2012, 01:21 AM
Dwight..

D12 fan
06-22-2012, 01:24 AM
lmao people saying Melo,he is not a superstar,so why should he have any pressure.

Durant
Dwight
Rose
CP3

then everybody else.

It will be interesting to see what team we trade D12 to,he could change the balance of power.

flatbush knicks
06-22-2012, 01:24 AM
Melo! Playing in a huge market; NY media; Knicks drought of championship; been out of the 1st round most of his career; his draft class buddies Lebron Wade Bosh already has rings. I don't think there is any player who has this kind of pressure other than him...
ummmmm yea maybe because they teamed up to win it together :facepalm:

Vincent
06-22-2012, 01:26 AM
I don't think Durant is ever going to receive blame for the OKC's loses in the finals.

Rather, a bulk of the blame will go to Westbrook (which is unwarranted) because of his style of play.

I think if OKC doesn't win next year (or the year after that), a lot of questions will be made on whether Westbrook is the right "fit" there.

D12 fan
06-22-2012, 01:27 AM
ummmmm yea maybe because they teamed up to win it together :facepalm:

So did Melo/Amare/Tyson,man I feel for your franchise that's a awful mix of talent only Chandler is considered a winner and he is 30yrs old and Amare is 30yrs old,you guys will have a tough time getting past Miami the next 5yrs.

flatbush knicks
06-22-2012, 01:27 AM
lmao people saying Melo,he is not a superstar,so why should he have any pressure.

Durant
Dwight
Rose
CP3

then everybody else.

It will be interesting to see what team we trade D12 to,he could change the balance of power.
because melo obviously is a superstar and better then d12 you say d12 is better but he has to team up with another superstar just to be relevant:facepalm:

flatbush knicks
06-22-2012, 01:28 AM
So did Melo/Amare/Tyson,man I feel for your franchise that's a awful mix of talent only Chandler is considered a winner and he is 30yrs old and Amare is 30yrs old,you guys will have a tough time getting past Miami the next 5yrs.
not if we trade two 30 year olds for d12 :D

EastNYLos
06-22-2012, 01:30 AM
lmao people saying Melo,he is not a superstar,so why should he have any pressure.

Durant
Dwight
Rose
CP3

then everybody else.

It will be interesting to see what team we trade D12 to,he could change the balance of power.

im sorry but i think Melo is much bigger star then CP3 is..

flatbush knicks
06-22-2012, 01:33 AM
A little out of the box here, but T-Mac... Not that there's any pressure on him to carry a team to a title at this point, but getting out of the first round would be a nice start. I'd like to see him win one. And Iverson, but that's obviously even less likely. Nash too, hope he finds a good team this offseason.

In terms of star players now, the usual suspects - Dwight, Durant, Paul, Melo are next in line with pressure to carry a team all the way, but I don't think Melo can ever do it personally...

But Lebron has more pressure on himself to win multiple titles than any of those guys do to just win 1. For what's at stake for Lebron's legacy, potentially being a top 5 player of all time, he's got to get multiple rings. That's a lot more pressure than Dwight and the others will ever have on them to win just 1.

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

D12 fan
06-22-2012, 01:36 AM
im sorry but i think Melo is much bigger star then CP3 is..

:eyebrow::laugh::laugh::laugh::guns::guns::guns::d ance::dance::dance::punish::punish::punish::badide a::badidea::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::no::no::no::ba ng::bang::bang::violin::violin::violin::facepalm:: facepalm:

You knicks fans are funny.

EastNYLos
06-22-2012, 01:41 AM
:eyebrow::laugh::laugh::laugh::guns::guns::guns::d ance::dance::dance::punish::punish::punish::badide a::badidea::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::no::no::no::ba ng::bang::bang::violin::violin::violin::facepalm:: facepalm:

You knicks fans are funny.

honestly..why try to degrade us? do you honestly think cp3 is better then melo?? i agree with you on the other players you had..

sharqstealth
06-22-2012, 01:41 AM
lmao people saying Melo,he is not a superstar,so why should he have any pressure.

Durant
Dwight
Rose
CP3

then everybody else.

It will be interesting to see what team we trade D12 to,he could change the balance of power.

and so you think Dwight is a superstar himself? Can't even shoot a straight free throw..:facepalm: and SVG can't even trust to put the ball in his hands during clutch time... His more of a diva than a superstar! If your not putting Melo in this category, then Dwight and anyone you mentioned who hasn't won a ring should be the same.

asandhu23
06-22-2012, 01:43 AM
Carmelo's got the pressure. He's the only one left from the 2003 draft top picks to not win it.

flatbush knicks
06-22-2012, 01:43 AM
:eyebrow::laugh::laugh::laugh::guns::guns::guns::d ance::dance::dance::punish::punish::punish::badide a::badidea::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::no::no::no::ba ng::bang::bang::violin::violin::violin::facepalm:: facepalm:

You knicks fans are funny.
wait now your a cp3 fan too :laugh::laugh::laugh:

WickedBadMan
06-22-2012, 01:44 AM
No one at this point.

QueensG
06-22-2012, 01:44 AM
im sorry but i think Melo is much bigger star then CP3 is..

:eyebrow::laugh::laugh::laugh::guns::guns::guns::d ance::dance::dance::punish::punish::punish::badide a::badidea::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::no::no::no::ba ng::bang::bang::violin::violin::violin::facepalm:: facepalm:

You knicks fans are funny.

how are you going to say melo is not a superstar. I smell a knick hater

sharqstealth
06-22-2012, 01:45 AM
im sorry but i think Melo is much bigger star then CP3 is..

Don't be sorry for that dude, his more of a troll than a person who can contribute a sensible opinion.

rkelly7
06-22-2012, 01:50 AM
Ummmm its still Lebron. They were supposed to win 6 or 7 in a row. Some dream team. 1 doesn't mean anything. Lebron and the Heat talked the talk. Now walk the walk.

KB-Pau-DH2012
06-22-2012, 01:53 AM
Kobe, as he has the pressure of tying MJ's 6. He failed to do so these last 2 yrs, and now he has just 2 more yrs to tie and then maybe surpass him with a 7th.

flatbush knicks
06-22-2012, 01:54 AM
Don't be sorry for that dude, his more of a troll than a person who can contribute a sensible opinion.
i take it your talking about d12 fan
:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

EastNYLos
06-22-2012, 01:55 AM
good point^ rkelly,

they would have to win 6 to not be under kobe's shadow and win 7 to not be under MJ..but hopefully they don't win anymore and hope other teams win as well...and not like when MJ played that it was hopeless for other teams to contend with that bulls team... a lot of players didn't win championships because of Jordan.

D12 fan
06-22-2012, 01:59 AM
Im just joking Knick fans a Dwight/Melo duo could challenge Miami.

flatbush knicks
06-22-2012, 02:02 AM
Im just joking Knick fans a Dwight/Melo duo could challenge Miami.

omg now your contradicting everything you just said:crazy: just go hide in the magic forum:hide:

EastNYLos
06-22-2012, 02:05 AM
Im just joking Knick fans a Dwight/Melo duo could challenge Miami.

lol and your just making him happy^

Fnom11
06-22-2012, 02:06 AM
Lebron will get a lot of pressure to repeat imo. However, I don't think he'll care.

MR.TRIPDUB
06-22-2012, 02:16 AM
the pressure to repeat would be enormous. in case of the ringless players its got to be kd. he was already annointed to be one the best all time much like lebron although in a lesser degree.

Baller1
06-22-2012, 02:16 AM
Durant.

justinnum1
06-22-2012, 02:20 AM
now that lebron knows what it takes to win, i think he goes on a run with miami.

GOON MUSIC
06-22-2012, 02:21 AM
Kobe Bean Bryant

Lakers + Giants
06-22-2012, 02:22 AM
Howard, then CP3, then Rose

Method28
06-22-2012, 03:02 AM
honestly..why try to degrade us? do you honestly think cp3 is better then melo?? i agree with you on the other players you had..

Im not a Knick hater at all but.....the real question should be

do YOU honestly think cp3 is NOT better than melo??

Cp3 is the FAR superior player.

flatbush knicks
06-22-2012, 03:10 AM
cp3 and melo are equally as good at this point

seikou8
06-22-2012, 03:10 AM
honestly..why try to degrade us? do you honestly think cp3 is better then melo?? i agree with you on the other players you had..

please stop embarrassing us knicks fan, do you seriously think melo is better than a top 7 player and best point guard in the game today let that sink in a bit then answer later

EastNYLos
06-22-2012, 03:15 AM
Im not a Knick hater at all but.....the real question should be

do YOU honestly think cp3 is NOT better than melo??

Cp3 is the FAR superior player.


so your answering a question with a question that wasn't intented to you..but i think there both equally good players

chris paul is a much better defensive player then melo..and he passes the ball much more making everyone around him better ex. amare and chandler..

carmelo is just a more intense scorer...and would be putting up 24+ppg that the knicks would miss if they had chris paul over melo..

EastNYLos
06-22-2012, 03:16 AM
please stop embarrassing us knicks fan, do you seriously think melo is better than a top 7 player and best point guard in the game today let that sink in a bit then answer later

you can take my answer to that off my last reply

Method28
06-22-2012, 03:21 AM
so your answering a question with a question that wasn't intented to you..but i think there both equally good players

chris paul is a much better defensive player then melo..and he passes the ball much more making everyone around him better ex. amare and chandler..

carmelo is just a more intense scorer...and would be putting up 24+ppg that the knicks would miss if they had chris paul over melo..

Im sorry i thought this was an open forum.

Melo is just a volume shooter/scorer. While he can get hot and hit some incredible shots...Cp3 could easily hit 24ppg if he just shot more.

Melo doesnt really do anything except score and most of the time he doesnt even do that efficiently.

Knicks-melo+cp3 > Knicks as is.

flatbush knicks
06-22-2012, 03:23 AM
carmelo is just as good as durant now durant is better then cp3 so how can you say cp3 is just as good as melo or durant melo and durant and maybe kobe are great closers paul is great but he isn't a closer

flatbush knicks
06-22-2012, 03:26 AM
Im sorry i thought this was an open forum.

Melo is just a volume shooter/scorer. While he can get hot and hit some incredible shots...Cp3 could easily hit 24ppg if he just shot more.

Melo doesnt really do anything except score and most of the time he doesnt even do that efficiently.

Knicks-melo+cp3 > Knicks as is.

just a volume scorer so i guess durant is just a volume scorer melo is the best offensive scorer in the game :facepalm:

seikou8
06-22-2012, 03:31 AM
you can take my answer to that off my last reply

melo averaged 23 this season Chris Paul averaged 20 we will miss melo because of 3 points and Chris Paul is a better play maker and defender and doesnt need a iso to be affective dont get me wrong melo is great and will better than last season but come on Chris Paul is beast amare would better and Chandler would better the whole would feed of his play making ability, and is a better shooter than melo also. so i would take cp3 over melo i am just a realist not a homer.

Method28
06-22-2012, 03:31 AM
carmelo is just as good as durant now durant is better then cp3 so how can you say cp3 is just as good as melo or durant melo and durant and maybe kobe are great closers paul is great but he isn't a closer

:laugh:

You're seriously kidding me right?

Method28
06-22-2012, 03:33 AM
melo averaged 23 this season Chris Paul averaged 20 we will miss melo because of 3 points and Chris Paul is a better play maker and defender and doesnt need a iso to be affective dont get me wrong melo is great and will better than last season but come on Chris Paul is beast amare would better and Chandler would better the whole would feed of his play making ability, and is a better shooter than melo also. so i would take cp3 over melo i am just a realist not a homer.

Hey man you need to get your bro off that ish :laugh2:

Cause he's saying some crazy ****

NYKnicksAllDay
06-22-2012, 03:33 AM
Not all not Knicks fans are blind homers guys, sorry for the ones who are.

EastNYLos
06-22-2012, 03:34 AM
Im sorry i thought this was an open forum.

Melo is just a volume shooter/scorer. While he can get hot and hit some incredible shots...Cp3 could easily hit 24ppg if he just shot more.

Melo doesnt really do anything except score and most of the time he doesnt even do that efficiently.

Knicks-melo+cp3 > Knicks as is.

hahaha...sorry bro im new to these forums...no ill will intended! :)

but we can agree to disagree..

i consinder melo a good player..but a ballhog at times..i would PREFER a much better PG like nash/cp3 feeding him the ball than Lin who is wet behind the ears still...

PurpleJesus
06-22-2012, 03:34 AM
carmelo is just as good as durant now durant is better then cp3 so how can you say cp3 is just as good as melo or durant melo and durant and maybe kobe are great closers paul is great but he isn't a closer

lol...melo is on durants level now? this might go in my sig for a couple days.

Method28
06-22-2012, 03:35 AM
hahaha...sorry bro im new to these forums...no ill will intended! :)

but we can agree to disagree..

i consinder melo a good player..but a ballhog at times..i would PREFER a much better PG like nash/cp3 feeding him the ball than Lin who is wet behind the ears still...

haha no need to apologize man....

I wouldn't do that too often. You don't want people on this forum to think you're soft. These PSD streets be crazy man! :D

flatbush knicks
06-22-2012, 03:35 AM
:laugh:

You're seriously kidding me right?


ummmmmm last time i checked melo won one game against the heat with half the talent of the thunder

PurpleJesus
06-22-2012, 03:35 AM
just a volume scorer so i guess durant is just a volume scorer melo is the best offensive scorer in the game :facepalm:

nevermind, this one beats it.

maybe...i cant choose, may just have to put them both in.

EastNYLos
06-22-2012, 03:36 AM
i would take CP3,melo,and chandler as our 3..because like i've stated he will def. get the ball around.. but unfortunately that just can't happen..

flatbush knicks
06-22-2012, 03:37 AM
lol...melo is on durants level now? this might go in my sig for a couple days.

shyt i can do better then that MELO IS BETTER THEN DURANT SIG THIS BIACH:mad:

Method28
06-22-2012, 03:37 AM
lol...melo is on durants level now? this might go in my sig for a couple days.

PSD math lesson:

Melo>Paul therefore Melo=Durant

Bravo95
06-22-2012, 03:39 AM
Could just say all the "stars" who basically force their way out. CP3, Melo, Deron, soon to be Dwight, etc.

EastNYLos
06-22-2012, 03:39 AM
nevermind, this one beats it.

Maybe...i cant choose, may just have to put them both in.

lmaoo!! #dead!

seikou8
06-22-2012, 03:40 AM
just a volume scorer so i guess durant is just a volume scorer melo is the best offensive scorer in the game :facepalm:

this takes the cake omg do you really think please tell me your joking

raiderposting
06-22-2012, 03:40 AM
melo isn't better than durant gtfoh.

Method28
06-22-2012, 03:41 AM
ummmmmm last time i checked melo won one game against the heat with half the talent of the thunder

Knicks were also 1-7 during the season+playoffs vs Miami

EastNYLos
06-22-2012, 03:42 AM
Could just say all the "stars" who basically force their way out. CP3, Melo, Deron, soon to be Dwight, etc.

true..but i guess it's more or less the players who have so much promise or promised they will win...promising means expectations...only lebron has done such a thing...but when you look at it as well only lebron is the only one that was considered to be the "next big thing" after Kobe and MJ..so i don't think any of the other stars would have such big pressure..etc..

seikou8
06-22-2012, 03:43 AM
true..but i guess it's more or less the players who have so much promise or promised they will win...promising means expectations...only lebron has done such a thing...but when you look at it as well only lebron is the only one that was considered to be the "next big thing" after Kobe and MJ..so i don't think any of the other stars would have such big pressure..etc..

this true good post

PurpleJesus
06-22-2012, 03:44 AM
shyt i can do better then that MELO IS BETTER THEN DURANT SIG THIS BIACH:mad:

k...anything else you got for me?

flatbush knicks
06-22-2012, 03:45 AM
ok im sorry but what has durant done to make him better then melo you guys do realize westbrook is a top ten player ok WHO DOES MELO PLAY WITH HE WON A GAME AGAINST THE HEAT WITH DUM *** AMARE PUNCHING A FIRE EXTINGUISHER DURANT ONLY WON ONE GAME AGAINST THE HEAT WITH A FULL TEAM

flatbush knicks
06-22-2012, 03:49 AM
people can say what they want but if amare played like a top ten player we would be contenders

PurpleJesus
06-22-2012, 03:52 AM
ok im sorry but what has durant done to make him better then melo you guys do realize westbrook is a top ten player]

the fact that Durant puts up more ppg next to someone like Westbrook is pretty impressive...and its not like Westbrook is a pass first PG. Westrbook is notorious for looking for his shot first. Durants .61 TS% demolishes Melo's .525. Durants EFG% of .547 also dwarfes Melo's .463. Durant also grabs 8 boards per game, while chiming in 3.5 assists. Melo grabs 6.3 boards and has 3.6 assists. Durant nearly doubles Melos win shares as well.

I guess, I would sum up that Durant is better than Melo because he beats him in almost every statistical category, except assists, where Melo has Durant beat by a tenth of a point.

seikou8
06-22-2012, 03:53 AM
ok im sorry but what has durant done to make him better then melo you guys do realize westbrook is a top ten player ok WHO DOES MELO PLAY WITH HE WON A GAME AGAINST THE HEAT WITH DUM *** AMARE PUNCHING A FIRE EXTINGUISHER DURANT ONLY WON ONE GAME AGAINST THE HEAT WITH A FULL TEAM

he scores more ,plays better defense also makes the finals melo has been in playoffs all 9 years 8 first round exits he is the man on his team westbrook is great he is a top 10-12 don't know if he top 10 .durant has improved every time in he is the playoffs has been in every round in only his 4th year yeah melo is better i dont need stats for statements like this. every game was close except for game 5

seikou8
06-22-2012, 03:54 AM
people can say what they want but if amare played like a top ten player we would be contenders

of course ,i wish he did

PurpleJesus
06-22-2012, 03:58 AM
people can say what they want but if amare played like a top ten player we would be contenders

and if Bismack Biyombo and Kemba Walker played like top ten players, the bobcats would be contenders as well.

flatbush knicks
06-22-2012, 03:58 AM
wtf he also has ibaka perkins and harden another top 15 player plays better d lebran was lighting hisass up all series quote what you want but melo played with amare and chandler shump was out and jlin you know our starting pg was out when we still managed to win one game because of melo you can hate all you want and i don't blame i thaught durant was better until this series

flatbush knicks
06-22-2012, 04:01 AM
and if Bismack Biyombo and Kemba Walker played like top ten players, the bobcats would be contenders as well.

word those guys are rookies amare was a top 10 player just a season ago and can easily come back strong

PurpleJesus
06-22-2012, 04:01 AM
wtf he also has ibaka perkins and harden another top 15 player plays better d lebran was lighting hisass up all series quote what you want but melo played with amare and chandler shump was out and jlin you know our starting pg was out when we still managed to win one game because of melo you can hate all you want and i don't blame i thaught durant was better until this series

you mean this series where he averaged 30 points on 55% shooting? lol

flatbush knicks
06-22-2012, 04:03 AM
whats your team purple so i can talk about your players

seikou8
06-22-2012, 04:04 AM
wtf he also has ibaka perkins and harden another top 15 player plays better d lebran was lighting hisass up all series quote what you want but melo played with amare and chandler shump was out and jlin you know our starting pg was out when we still managed to win one game because of melo you can hate all you want and i don't blame i thaught durant was better until this series

he was averaging 30 on 55 percent shooting in this series can melo average 55 percent in a series can melo even average 50 melo did get us that win i love him for that because i didn't want to get swept but take off your homer classes

PurpleJesus
06-22-2012, 04:05 AM
whats your team purple so i can talk about your players

the timberwolves...but im not making claims that Love is as good as Dwight, or that Rubio is as good as CP3. That would be as asinine as saying Melo is better than Durant.

PurpleJesus
06-22-2012, 04:05 AM
also, im not talking trash about Melo, its just asinine to think he is better than Durant.

flatbush knicks
06-22-2012, 04:06 AM
yea i dont care about numbers when they only win one game now i'd understand if i said the knicks were a better team then okc but i didn't okc is stacked face it durant shoots a high percentage cuz when harden and westbrook are on the floor he gets open looks melo shoots over double and has to carry the scoring load stats don't mean anything wins do

PurpleJesus
06-22-2012, 04:07 AM
yea i dont care about numbers when they only win one game now i'd understand if i said the knicks were a better team then okc but i didn't okc is stacked face it durant shoots a high percentage cuz when harden and westbrook are on the floor he gets open looks melo shoots over double and has to carry the scoring load stats don't mean anything wins do

but the whole basis for your argument, is that Melo won 1 game against the HEAT...

flatbush knicks
06-22-2012, 04:08 AM
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the timberwolves...but im not making claims that Love is as good as Dwight, or that Rubio is as good as CP3. That would be as asinine as saying Melo is better than Durant.
timberwolves:facepalm: no wonder your such an angy troll

PurpleJesus
06-22-2012, 04:09 AM
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timberwolves:facepalm: no wonder your such an angy troll

whoes trolling? the guy that says Melo is better than Durant, or the guy who provides evidence that Durant is the superior player. Provide some statistical evidence, please.

Lose an argument on PSD? call your opponent a troll. Works everytime.

flatbush knicks
06-22-2012, 04:09 AM
but the whole basis for your argument, is that Melo won 1 game against the HEAT...


yea because as great as durant is he only won one game too with a team that would shyt on the knicks

sunsfan88
06-22-2012, 04:10 AM
'Melo, CP3 and Dwight in that order.

I'm surprised nobody has said Steve Nash....

EastNYLos
06-22-2012, 04:11 AM
'Melo, CP3 and Dwight in that order.

I'm surprised nobody has said Steve Nash....

i did...lol but it got buried somewhere

PurpleJesus
06-22-2012, 04:12 AM
just look at the numbers man, its clear as day which player is better between Durant and Melo.

flatbush knicks
06-22-2012, 04:12 AM
whoes trolling? the guy that says Melo is better than Durant, or the guy who provides evidence that Durant is the superior player. Provide some statistical evidence, please.

Lose an argument on PSD? call your opponent a troll. Works everytime.
your a fkn troll a guy can't have his own opinion im not arguing melo is my favorite player and i think he is better then durant i dont care if you agree with me but now it makes sense cuz the twolves are worst then the knicks:facepalm:

flatbush knicks
06-22-2012, 04:14 AM
just look at the numbers man, its clear as day which player is better between Durant and Melo.
ask yourself this if melo played on the thunder and had westbrook and harden he wouldn't put up numbers just as good:facepalm:

NYYCowboys
06-22-2012, 04:15 AM
Melo definitely because he plays in NY, and the way he forced himself there. But it's really unfair to him because he's not on the same level as guys like Lebron and Howard, and can't carry a team on his back on his own.

PurpleJesus
06-22-2012, 04:15 AM
your a fkn troll a guy can't have his own opinion im not arguing melo is my favorite player and i think he is better then durant i dont care if you agree with me but now it makes sense cuz the twolves are worst then the knicks:facepalm:

yup, thats the only accurate thing you have said all night. The Knicks are better than the Wolves, that can statistically be proven, just like how it can statistically be proven that Durant is better than Melo.

NYYCowboys
06-22-2012, 04:16 AM
ask yourself this if melo played on the thunder and had westbrook and harden he wouldn't put up numbers just as good:facepalm:

No probably not Durant is better than Melo not even a discussion right now.

NYKnicksAllDay
06-22-2012, 04:16 AM
To quote Stephen A and Skip Bayless, "That's asinine, asiten, asieleven, asitwelve." Melo is not better than Durant. Period.

PurpleJesus
06-22-2012, 04:17 AM
ask yourself this if melo played on the thunder and had westbrook and harden he wouldn't put up numbers just as good:facepalm:

he would not touch Durants TS%, his eFG%, his rebound numbers, his win shares, etc...and the Thunder would have less wins.

flatbush knicks
06-22-2012, 04:17 AM
i have more respect for melo cuz melo gets hate from idiots like you and plays with nobody still gets us in the playoffs

seikou8
06-22-2012, 04:18 AM
ask yourself this if melo played on the thunder and had westbrook and harden he wouldn't put up numbers just as good:facepalm:

wait your saying harden and westbrook make kd better hahahahaha thats a lie
durant would be great anywhere he went

NYYCowboys
06-22-2012, 04:19 AM
i have more respect for melo cuz melo gets hate from idiots like you and plays with nobody still gets us in the playoffs

Dude you have the right to your own opinion, but there's no use of arguing back and forth and making all of us Knicks fans look bad.

PurpleJesus
06-22-2012, 04:19 AM
i have more respect for melo cuz melo gets hate from idiots like you and plays with nobody still gets us in the playoffs

how am i hating on Melo? by showing how Durant is better? Look at the last couple of posts of Knick fans agreeing that Durants is better. I would love to have Melo on my team, but Durant is by far the superior player. Melo is probably top 10-15 player in the league, Durant is top 3.

seikou8
06-22-2012, 04:19 AM
i have more respect for melo cuz melo gets hate from idiots like you and plays with nobody still gets us in the playoffs

this is true

seikou8
06-22-2012, 04:21 AM
this thread is funny

PurpleJesus
06-22-2012, 04:23 AM
Melo didnt get the Knicks to the playoffs, it was a team effort, that was lead by Melo who is the Knicks best player. Lin, Shumpert, Chandler, Stoudemire, etc had a lot to do with the Knicks getting to the playoffs too.

NYKnicksAllDay
06-22-2012, 04:24 AM
Melo doesn't play with "nobody." The team underachieved during the regular season and it cost them in the post season. I bet you wouldn't have been saying that had they not underachieved (largely attributed to Melo's piss poor play at times) and made it past round 1.

PurpleJesus
06-22-2012, 04:24 AM
Melo doesn't play with "nobody." The team underachieved during the regular season and it cost them in the post season. I bet you wouldn't have been saying that had they not underachieved (largely attributed to Melo's piss poor play at times) and made it past round 1.

lol

NYYCowboys
06-22-2012, 04:25 AM
Melo shot 43% from the field this year compared to Durant who shot almost 50% from the field while scoring more. There are a lot of other stats to prove it too that I don't feel like looking up, but Durant is the better more efficient player.

flatbush knicks
06-22-2012, 04:28 AM
how am i hating on Melo? by showing how Durant is better? Look at the last couple of posts of Knick fans agreeing that Durants is better. I would love to have Melo on my team, but Durant is by far the superior player. Melo is probably top 10-15 player in the league, Durant is top 3.

im not saying melo is way better but you making it sound like durant is jordan and melo is garbage when melo plays on a shyt team compared to durant its really hard to compare the two statistically because melo had to take alot of bad shots when durant gets open looks playing with westbrook and harden

seikou8
06-22-2012, 04:28 AM
man crack is strong:laugh2::laugh2:

flatbush knicks
06-22-2012, 04:30 AM
Melo doesn't play with "nobody." The team underachieved during the regular season and it cost them in the post season. I bet you wouldn't have been saying that had they not underachieved (largely attributed to Melo's piss poor play at times) and made it past round 1.

we didn't underachieve we just hade a dum *** coach we went 18 and 6 after the coaching change :facepalm:

NYKnicksAllDay
06-22-2012, 04:30 AM
im not saying melo is way better but you making it sound like durant is jordan and melo is garbage when melo plays on a shyt team compared to durant its really hard to compare the two statistically because melo had to take alot of bad shots when durant gets open looks playing with westbrook and harden

Melo didn't have to take bad shots, he chose to. Just like he has most of his career.

PurpleJesus
06-22-2012, 04:30 AM
Dude you have the right to your own opinion, but there's no use of arguing back and forth and making all of us Knicks fans look bad.

He said something about having the right to his opinion, and I would usually agree with someone having a right to an opinion, unless it isnt an opinion. It is a fact that Durant is better than Melo...its like someone saying Texas isnt in the southern part of the USA, and then when they get proven wrong, they say its just their opinion, and they can't be proven wrong.

NYYCowboys
06-22-2012, 04:31 AM
im not saying melo is way better but you making it sound like durant is jordan and melo is garbage when melo plays on a shyt team compared to durant its really hard to compare the two statistically because melo had to take alot of bad shots when durant gets open looks playing with westbrook and harden

No he didn't he chose to take a lot of bad shots because that's the player he is. You put Durant on the Knicks and I think they are top 3 in the conference, and legit title contenders. Right now they're maybe like top 4-5 and a long shot at best baring some good moves.

NYKnicksAllDay
06-22-2012, 04:31 AM
we didn't underachieve we just hade a dum *** coach we went 18 and 6 after the coaching change :facepalm:

You basically proved my point for me. That 18-6 stretch showed the team's potential. So yes, we underachieved up until that point. 18-24 with that roster is unacceptable.


Even 'Melo himself implicitly admitted that he wasn't playing hard before the D'Antoni firing, telling Newsday yesterday, "I think in the last three games, my focus was to have an energy that I haven't had so far this season, especially on the defensive end."

I guess it was D'Antoni's fault Melo didn't play with the energy he should have for 42 games.

Knicks21
06-22-2012, 04:31 AM
If Dwight demands a trade, then its him, otherwise it is melo.

NYYCowboys
06-22-2012, 04:32 AM
He said something about having the right to his opinion, and I would usually agree with someone having a right to an opinion, unless it isnt an opinion. It is a fact that Durant is better than Melo...its like someone saying Texas isnt in the southern part of the USA, and then when they get proven wrong, they say its just their opinion, and they can't be proven wrong.

I'm on your side man. You're definitely right, but this keeps getting more and more dragged out and makes NYK fans look dumbed and dumber.

seikou8
06-22-2012, 04:34 AM
we didn't underachieve we just hade a dum *** coach we went 18 and 6 after the coaching change :facepalm:

mike know mores basketball than anyone on psd and has led his teams to playoff success. melo should of played harder for him and not quit on him hard to win when our best player doesn't play hard. we the expectations of being a top 3-4 seed end up fighting for playoff spot at the end of the season.

PurpleJesus
06-22-2012, 04:34 AM
lol, this discussion has been going on for like 3 or 4 pages now, and every so often, someone will chime in with an answer to the original question, and it seems real off topic to me, even though it is on topic.

seikou8
06-22-2012, 04:37 AM
dwight is under the most pressure and cp3

flatbush knicks
06-22-2012, 04:37 AM
He said something about having the right to his opinion, and I would usually agree with someone having a right to an opinion, unless it isnt an opinion. It is a fact that Durant is better than Melo...its like someone saying Texas isnt in the southern part of the USA, and then when they get proven wrong, they say its just their opinion, and they can't be proven wrong.
o no you just converted me your so right melo is worse because he played on a worse team had bad coaching most of the year and has no chemistry with the rest of his team because we always get new players dude if you dont agree with me stfu melo has a post game durant has a better 3 point shot but thats it defense is about the same plus melo has never missed the playoffs even as a rookie your on durants dick i get it cool but he just plays on a better team ther is a reason he didn't win the mvp

ThunderousDemon
06-22-2012, 04:37 AM
:sleep:

flatbush knicks
06-22-2012, 04:39 AM
mike know mores basketball than anyone on psd and has led his teams to playoff success. melo should of played harder for him and not quit on him hard to win when our best player doesn't play hard. we the expectations of being a top 3-4 seed end up fighting for playoff spot at the end of the season.
:facepalm: if he knows so much how come he couldn't teach defense:facepalm: your crediblity is just as good as mine now:facepalm:

PurpleJesus
06-22-2012, 04:39 AM
o no you just converted me your so right melo is worse because he played on a worse team had bad coaching most of the year and has no chemistry with the rest of his team because we always get new players dude if you dont agree with me stfu melo has a post game durant has a better 3 point shot but thats it defense is about the same plus melo has never missed the playoffs even as a rookie your on durants dick i get it cool but he just plays on a better team ther is a reason he didn't win the mvp

he didnt win MVP because Lebron is better...

flatbush knicks
06-22-2012, 04:40 AM
ok end of discussion twolves 2013 championship winners sig that too biach

NYKnicksAllDay
06-22-2012, 04:40 AM
:facepalm: if he knows so much how come he couldn't teach defense:facepalm: your crediblity is just as good as mine now:facepalm:

Wait, so are you admitting you have no credibility then? That's the only way this would make sense.

flatbush knicks
06-22-2012, 04:41 AM
he didnt win MVP because Lebron is better...
no but according to u and your stats durant averaged more points and shot better from the field and his team won more games stfu troll:facepalm:

NYYCowboys
06-22-2012, 04:41 AM
:facepalm: if he knows so much how come he couldn't teach defense:facepalm: your crediblity is just as good as mine now:facepalm:

If he's such a bad coach why did he lead the Suns to the Western Conference championship and a 253-136 record as their coach?

JC_
06-22-2012, 04:42 AM
mike know mores basketball than anyone on psd and has led his teams to playoff success. melo should of played harder for him and not quit on him hard to win when our best player doesn't play hard. we the expectations of being a top 3-4 seed end up fighting for playoff spot at the end of the season.

Poor english but this^^^

Melo put them in a ****** situation by not playing for D'Antoni. Yes, they were doing well when he left but the team shouldn't have been in that situation. Melo was lazy as hell and then when it came to the playoffs he was too tired to do much in like every 4th quarter. Makes me think he didn't want to be part of D'antoni's run and gun offense because he was out of shape and wouldn't have been able to keep up.

flatbush knicks
06-22-2012, 04:43 AM
Wait, so are you admitting you have no credibility then? That's the only way this would make sense.
lmao according to you guys i must be crazy to think melo is even in the same class as durant gtfoh:facepalm:

ThunderousDemon
06-22-2012, 04:43 AM
ok end of discussion twolves 2013 championship winners sig that too biach

Come on, don't stop now

http://emoticons4u.com/crazy/167.gif

PurpleJesus
06-22-2012, 04:44 AM
ok end of discussion twolves 2013 championship winners sig that too biach

see, you say I am trolling, but I never said anything bad about Melo, and then when I say I am a Wolves fan, you start making fun of that for some reason. I am not making claims that Love is better than Dwight, or that Rubio is better than CP3, if I did make comments like that, I am sure that people would show me how that is untrue.

NYKnicksAllDay
06-22-2012, 04:44 AM
lmao according to you guys i must be crazy to think melo is even in the same class as durant gtfoh:facepalm:

Yes, you are crazy if you believe that Melo is better than Durant or even as good.

flatbush knicks
06-22-2012, 04:45 AM
wow do all the dumbtoni supporters stay up at night or something well i'l be the first to say it dumbtoni is the worst coach ever anybody that could defend that clown is on crack

PurpleJesus
06-22-2012, 04:46 AM
no but according to u and your stats durant averaged more points and shot better from the field and his team won more games stfu troll:facepalm:

ummm....Durant did have all those numbers over Melo

seikou8
06-22-2012, 04:46 AM
:facepalm: if he knows so much how come he couldn't teach defense:facepalm: your crediblity is just as good as mine now:facepalm:

:facepalm:
you cant teach grown men who has played basketball there whole lifes how to play defense, if dont know how yet then something is wrong with you his phx were middle of the pack not that bad. mike is not greatest coach in the world dont get wrong iam glad he gone but to blame him for all the failures is stupid.

NYYCowboys
06-22-2012, 04:46 AM
:facepalm: if he knows so much how come he couldn't teach defense:facepalm: your crediblity is just as good as mine now:facepalm:

Plus your arguments are contradictory. You argue that Melo isn't as good as Durant because Melo plays for a "shyt" team. Then you say that Mike D'Antoni is awful even though he's coaching this supposedly "shyt" team..... :facepalm:

Raps08-09 Champ
06-22-2012, 04:46 AM
It's Lebron.

People will never be satisfied of his career until we wins more than 1 ring.

ThunderousDemon
06-22-2012, 04:46 AM
wow do all the dumbtoni supporters stay up at night or something well i'l be the first to say it dumbtoni is the worst coach ever anybody that could defend that clown is on crack

http://www.forumsextreme.com/images2/sSp_clangrats.gif

flatbush knicks
06-22-2012, 04:48 AM
see, you say I am trolling, but I never said anything bad about Melo, and then when I say I am a Wolves fan, you start making fun of that for some reason. I am not making claims that Love is better than Dwight, or that Rubio is better than CP3, if I did make comments like that, I am sure that people would show me how that is untrue.

chll out troll you was just talking mad shyt about melo saying he never got out the first round or whatever bullshyt face it your team sucks and inside you probaly wish you had melo get over it go wolves:facepalm:

seikou8
06-22-2012, 04:51 AM
is this new York knicks forum lets back to the topic

flatbush knicks
06-22-2012, 04:52 AM
Plus your arguments are contradictory. You argue that Melo isn't as good as Durant because Melo plays for a "shyt" team. Then you say that Mike D'Antoni is awful even though he's coaching this supposedly "shyt" team..... :facepalm:
no dum *** the team was shyt because we got hit with mad injuries are you even a knicks fan or just another one of these clowns on here im not going to explain what happend to our team you should already know im just leaving with this one point could the thunder have even one won game without westbrook cuz the knicks beat the heat without lin:clap:

PurpleJesus
06-22-2012, 04:52 AM
chll out troll you was just talking mad shyt about melo saying he never got out the first round or whatever bullshyt face it your team sucks and inside you probaly wish you had melo get over it go wolves:facepalm:

lol, I do wish I had Melo on my team...i said this about 30 minutes ago...


I would love to have Melo on my team

I havent said anything about his first round exits though, you have.

ThunderousDemon
06-22-2012, 04:53 AM
lol

PurpleJesus
06-22-2012, 04:55 AM
no dum *** the team was shyt because we got hit with mad injuries are you even a knicks fan or just another one of these clowns on here im not going to explain what happend to our team you should already know im just leaving with this one point could the thunder have even one won game without westbrook cuz the knicks beat the heat without lin:clap:

He doesnt think Melo is as good as Durant? Must not be a real Knicks fan...

either that, or he is just a logical person.

the bolded part also made me laugh...not calling you out though, typos happen to everyone.

Knicks21
06-22-2012, 05:02 AM
dwight is under the most pressure and cp3

IMO CP3 has fallen off the map, not as relevant as he once was.

NYYCowboys
06-22-2012, 05:06 AM
no dum *** the team was shyt because we got hit with mad injuries are you even a knicks fan or just another one of these clowns on here im not going to explain what happend to our team you should already know im just leaving with this one point could the thunder have even one won game without westbrook cuz the knicks beat the heat without lin:clap:

Yes I am a Knicks fan. I'm just not mentally handicapped like you are.

seikou8
06-22-2012, 05:33 AM
Yes I am a Knicks fan. I'm just not mentally handicapped like you are.

owned

-Kobe24-TJ19-
06-22-2012, 06:07 AM
wow flatbush troling hard again:laugh:

Glen20
06-22-2012, 06:29 AM
man after going through the last couple of years as Heat fan, I must say i feel sorry for the fanbase of whatever superstar gets anointed as the one with no ring. Its not fun to crucify a player for not accomplishing something they really want to accomplish. Can't we just enjoy watching the game?

basketfan4life
06-22-2012, 06:29 AM
miami looks to have the east locked up for the next 4-5 years

This is where stupitidy begins. Absolutely nothing in the NBA is locked up for 4-5 years. One dwight howard trade, one d-wade decline, chicago finding another player, one of those things can happen and then nothing is locked up.

gwrighter
06-22-2012, 06:36 AM
miami looks to have the east locked up for the next 4-5 years

relax lol

Glen20
06-22-2012, 06:36 AM
This is where stupitidy begins. Absolutely nothing in the NBA is locked up for 4-5 years. One dwight howard trade, one d-wade decline, chicago finding another player, one of those things can happen and then nothing is locked up.

yeh agreed. this offseason is critical for Miami and any contender in the East.

LongIslandIcedZ
06-22-2012, 08:46 AM
Honestly. It still might be Lebron lol.

I'll say Durant. He made it this year, so he has to get the monkey off his back.

todu82
06-22-2012, 09:17 AM
Kevin Durant or Dwight Howard.

IndyRealist
06-22-2012, 09:21 AM
I don't think it's Dwight. He doesn't seem to care about championships or legacies. All he cares about is getting to Brooklyn.

D-Leethal
06-22-2012, 09:23 AM
I'd say Dwight and Melo. Durant is young enough that he won't have that type of pressure for a long time.

Melo's legacy is becoming that of a talented career loser. If he ever wants to be remembered along with the rest of his draft class he's gotta start winning and winning big.

IndyRealist
06-22-2012, 09:23 AM
yes i am a knicks fan. I'm just not mentally handicapped like you are.

qft.

nycsports2
06-22-2012, 09:28 AM
durant and melo

pebloemer
06-22-2012, 09:31 AM
Dwight, CP3, Durant (Melo and DWill draw considerations too).