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ldawg
06-21-2012, 07:07 AM
The nba is predictable. Would have been great if OKC won. At season start most pick Miami to win and they well. With a little help from the refs. Miami winning high light everything wrong about the NBA. Similar players Ganging up, Calls that favor certain players, complaining to refs, flopping, etc. The way the calls have gone is very annoying. Kind of the Miami Mavs series when dirk got no love. OKC would have fill the NBA with excitement with a young self made team upsetting the big boys. Now some of it is OKC fault but to many fouls call on okc yet you cant lay a finger on the heat players. I saw so many plays were a heat was not even touch and the ref given foul to a player 1 foot away, that is crazy.
OKC is to nice they are playing and acting the right way with bads calls. They are the good guys. I guess the saying is true nice guys finish last. Maybe they should start jumping into people flick their head and fall down and when they dont get the call pimp slap the ref, grab hold a player to play defense push him when the ref isint looking. The excitement in this finals was there but it has now flame out thanks to bad calls with a bigger agenda in mind. thanks NBA you f up another finals. Is this NBA or WWF i am a bit confuse. OKC its time to stop playing and start acting and for the love of god can you guys not get so close under Lebron and send Wade left. I know its seven against 5 so let them feel the foul. Hit them harder get your moneys worth.

ATX
06-21-2012, 07:50 AM
Cool story, and please pay attention in English class. Your post was painfully difficult to read. Your opinion here is just not thread worthy, sorry. There are about a billion other threads to vent your frustrations or should I say come up with excuses to discredit the Heat.

4 POINT PLAY LJ
06-21-2012, 07:56 AM
Nobody said the series was over

sunsfan88
06-21-2012, 07:57 AM
Yea just cause Miami outplayed OKC, they shouldn't be given the trophy since it was so predictable.

Great logic!

.....Skip is that you?

ATX
06-21-2012, 08:01 AM
Nobody said the series was over

...And this ^

dnewguy
06-21-2012, 08:13 AM
Hard to read. If you've problems with English, keep the post short.

seikou8
06-21-2012, 08:14 AM
:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm: :facepalm::facepalm: blame the refs that what its gone down to. miami has outplayed okc the last 3 games, if the heat win tonight i can see now nba forum will crash with so many stupid threads like this one. maybe harden can play better maybe Durant cant disappear for 2nd and part of the third quarter can ibaka do anything but block shots can perkins do anything but block a shot once in a while.can westbrook take better shots. thats why they are down 3-1 because thats all these guys are doing.

bucketss
06-21-2012, 08:21 AM
lol people are just getting more and more desperate, okc can still win the series but the very fact that miami is close has these people going for an all time lows its so hilarious to watch

Evolution23
06-21-2012, 08:34 AM
Yea because every one predicted Dallas to win last year. Right?

bucketss
06-21-2012, 08:40 AM
before the series even started everyone was saying who ever wins the west will win the championship, miami was clearly the underdog going into this series.

Hawkize31
06-21-2012, 08:53 AM
****ing crybabies...dime a dozen on psd.

daleja424
06-21-2012, 09:11 AM
before the series even started everyone was saying who ever wins the west will win the championship, miami was clearly the underdog going into this series.

SO. TRUE. In fact I saw multiple threads started during the Miami/Boston series that said it didn't even matter who won the east b/c OKC/SAS were FAR superior and would sweep them anyways.

Add to that the fact that Miami was the underdog (see Vegas; see 80% of sports analysts), plus the fact that OKC had the homecourt....

In reality it is actually turned out to be pretty damn unpredictable... how many RATIONAL people picked Miami in 5 before this series? Maybe 2% of the population...

mlisica19
06-21-2012, 09:17 AM
1) Miami has been here before as a team, most of the individuals have been here before too. They are an experienced group who still hate last years loss to Dallas. They look hungrier for a title than OKC. I saw it in game 2, James and Bosh have that eye of the tiger mentality. Others do too, its what you need in order to have a shot at the title. OKC is a young team, their talent and skill and chemistry brought them this far but they need an edge now. They need to change some things in their persona.

2) Yes the NBA is very predictable. The cap space is a joke, allowing big markets to succeed because they can afford to go over the cap if they choose to. You name the 16 teams going into the playoffs at preseason and your going to be at least 85% right every year. Name the division winners and the top seeds in the playoffs at preseason and I wont be shocked if most nba fans come out with pretty accurate results. Their is a huge difference between the lower level teams and the higher level teams and their is not a large margin of in between.

I have been saying this for a few years now, the NBA should go into a hard cap era. Forcing teams to focus more on managing and coaching rather than just paying for high end talent leaving many teams on the bottom for the scraps. It will spread the NBA's talent across the nation rather than to the top 4-5 markets. Basically it will even out the talent among all teams. This does not mean you will lose having 2 superstars on a team, it does not mean all the teams will be a better squad. But it will even out the talent, and allow more fans to be entertained.

The NBA is not just some ordinary league, its where the best talent goes to play worldwide. So a league as such should have all of its clubs have equal opportunity in acquiring such players and a draft is not enough!

mlisica19
06-21-2012, 09:20 AM
before the series even started everyone was saying who ever wins the west will win the championship, miami was clearly the underdog going into this series.

Most experts actually said it will be a close series, but everyone underestimated Miamis focus. We forgot how young OKC is and how much most of the Miami players are still itching to win it.

No person in their right mind would have said OKC is DEF going to win this easy hands down. Do not listen to those guys if they did or they still do.

OKC still has a shot, they made some key mistakes that they can learn from but in reality I think we all see Miamis focus which has matured since last year.

Yet in reality, you ask 1000 NBA fans and 1000 experts/analysts before preseason who the top 4 teams will be in each conference and you will have found 90% of those voters to have been over 90% right with their selection. The NBA is very straight forward... Thats why they need the hard cap.

kingjaymes23
06-21-2012, 09:21 AM
The nba is predictable. Would have been great if OKC won. At season start most pick Miami to win and they well. With a little help from the refs. Miami winning high light everything wrong about the NBA. Similar players Ganging up, Calls that favor certain players, complaining to refs, flopping, etc. The way the calls have gone is very annoying. Kind of the Miami Mavs series when dirk got no love. OKC would have fill the NBA with excitement with a young self made team upsetting the big boys. Now some of it is OKC fault but to many fouls call on okc yet you cant lay a finger on the heat players. I saw so many plays were a heat was not even touch and the ref given foul to a player 1 foot away, that is crazy.
OKC is to nice they are playing and acting the right way with bads calls. They are the good guys. I guess the saying is true nice guys finish last. Maybe they should start jumping into people flick their head and fall down and when they dont get the call pimp slap the ref, grab hold a player to play defense push him when the ref isint looking. The excitement in this finals was there but it has now flame out thanks to bad calls with a bigger agenda in mind. thanks NBA you f up another finals. Is this NBA or WWF i am a bit confuse. OKC its time to stop playing and start acting and for the love of god can you guys not get so close under Lebron and send Wade left. I know its seven against 5 so let them feel the foul. Hit them harder get your moneys worth.

The majority of the flopping in this series has been done by James Harden and the Thunder. If you don't like it then dont watch it, but can we please stop blaming the refs? It is ridiculous and childish. The Thunder are losing these games because they choke in the 4th quarter. I can go back into every loss and give a few key posessions down the stretch that lost the game for the Thunder, and none of them involve the ref. Turnover after turnover, unforced errors everywhere, missed shots, letting LeBron get to wherever he wants on the court, and I could go on but no matter what facts I put up the masses will still believe the refs won this series and not the Heat.

pacofunk64
06-21-2012, 09:46 AM
I didn't even need to read the OP. Miami is the best team in the NBA and they are proving that right now by pounding the **** out of OKC. It's not over yet but a lot has to change if OKC can survive.

NYMetros
06-21-2012, 09:48 AM
:yawn:

Jarvo
06-21-2012, 10:38 AM
Didnt read all that ****ery but cry me a river.

koreancabbage
06-21-2012, 11:24 AM
if it was predictable, why did everyone think OKC was going to win?

Neosheed
06-21-2012, 11:28 AM
The nba is predictable. Would have been great if OKC won. At season start most pick Miami to win and they well. With a little help from the refs. Miami winning high light everything wrong about the NBA. Similar players Ganging up, Calls that favor certain players, complaining to refs, flopping, etc. The way the calls have gone is very annoying. Kind of the Miami Mavs series when dirk got no love. OKC would have fill the NBA with excitement with a young self made team upsetting the big boys. Now some of it is OKC fault but to many fouls call on okc yet you cant lay a finger on the heat players. I saw so many plays were a heat was not even touch and the ref given foul to a player 1 foot away, that is crazy.
OKC is to nice they are playing and acting the right way with bads calls. They are the good guys. I guess the saying is true nice guys finish last. Maybe they should start jumping into people flick their head and fall down and when they dont get the call pimp slap the ref, grab hold a player to play defense push him when the ref isint looking. The excitement in this finals was there but it has now flame out thanks to bad calls with a bigger agenda in mind. thanks NBA you f up another finals. Is this NBA or WWF i am a bit confuse. OKC its time to stop playing and start acting and for the love of god can you guys not get so close under Lebron and send Wade left. I know its seven against 5 so let them feel the foul. Hit them harder get your moneys worth..



The only team that was in the head of MIA was Chicago wit an healthy derrick rose that's the only team that got them worried. The bulls beat them twice wit out their best player imagin if they would have been at full strength....

hugepatsfan
06-21-2012, 11:35 AM
The NBA is the one sport where if you just pick by the best player, chances are you will have a pretty good track record. Look at the list of MVPs - only like 3 of them I believe don't have rings (and LBJ is about to get his tonight). It's not a league based on parity. It's a league where certain teams/star players have 5-10 year runs of contension. No parity. That's why for me it's by far the least entertaining of the 4 major sports.

NYtilIdie
06-21-2012, 11:50 AM
What are you talking about? Everybody had OKC winning in 6.

AIMelo=KillaDUO
06-21-2012, 12:10 PM
I bet you were one of the ones talkin ish when Indiana went up 2-1

nicegoing
06-21-2012, 12:12 PM
The best team usually wins the championship whether it's predictable or not.

SugeKnight
06-21-2012, 12:19 PM
before the series even started everyone was saying who ever wins the west will win the championship, miami was clearly the underdog going into this series.

SO. TRUE. In fact I saw multiple threads started during the Miami/Boston series that said it didn't even matter who won the east b/c OKC/SAS were FAR superior and would sweep them anyways.

Add to that the fact that Miami was the underdog (see Vegas; see 80% of sports analysts), plus the fact that OKC had the homecourt....

In reality it is actually turned out to be pretty damn unpredictable... how many RATIONAL people picked Miami in 5 before this series? Maybe 2% of the population...
I'm part of that 2% :)
And I feel like they're closing it out tonight.

strokeman
06-21-2012, 12:24 PM
The nba is predictable. Would have been great if OKC won. At season start most pick Miami to win and they well. With a little help from the refs. Miami winning high light everything wrong about the NBA. Similar players Ganging up, Calls that favor certain players, complaining to refs, flopping, etc. The way the calls have gone is very annoying. Kind of the Miami Mavs series when dirk got no love. OKC would have fill the NBA with excitement with a young self made team upsetting the big boys. Now some of it is OKC fault but to many fouls call on okc yet you cant lay a finger on the heat players. I saw so many plays were a heat was not even touch and the ref given foul to a player 1 foot away, that is crazy.
OKC is to nice they are playing and acting the right way with bads calls. They are the good guys. I guess the saying is true nice guys finish last. Maybe they should start jumping into people flick their head and fall down and when they dont get the call pimp slap the ref, grab hold a player to play defense push him when the ref isint looking. The excitement in this finals was there but it has now flame out thanks to bad calls with a bigger agenda in mind. thanks NBA you f up another finals. Is this NBA or WWF i am a bit confuse. OKC its time to stop playing and start acting and for the love of god can you guys not get so close under Lebron and send Wade left. I know its seven against 5 so let them feel the foul. Hit them harder get your moneys worth.

the only series ive seen worst than this was MIA vs DAL in 06 when the NBA created D-Wade. Don't get me wrong, Wade is one of my fav players but the calls were ridiculous!

strokeman
06-21-2012, 12:27 PM
I'm part of that 2% :)
And I feel like they're closing it out tonight.

never underestimate the 6-man (the refs).
i think they know OKC is the better team and will call a fair game tonight and this goes 7.

mvb815
06-21-2012, 12:31 PM
so next year the bobcats should win because nobody will predict it?

this thread is a joke

CHANGO
06-21-2012, 12:36 PM
@Chris_Broussard
I polled 52 NBA execs, coaches, scouts & players b4 Finals: 33 picked OKC to win; 19 picked Miami. about an hour ago

daleja424
06-21-2012, 12:40 PM
Link #1: http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2012/matchup/_/teams/thunder-heat

20 experts picked the winner of this series... 60% pick OKC to win... 0% picked Miami in 5


Link #2: twitter.com/Chris_Broussard

I polled 52 NBA execs, coaches, scouts, & players b4 Finals: 33 picked OKC to win; 19 picked Miami


Link #3: http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/post/_/id/8021368/are-thunder-favorite-win-it

68% of America picked the Thunder as the Champs. Only 14% picked Miami.


Link #4: http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/article.aspx?subjectid=226&articleid=20120611_226_0_OKLAHO732314

OKLAHOMA CITY – Playing in its first NBA Finals, the Oklahoma City Thunder is widely viewed as the favorite over the Miami Heat.


Link #5: http://www.sportsnet.ca/fanfuel/2012/06/12/2012_nba_finals_betting_odds_oklahoma_city_thunder _miami_heat/

And James will likely need to be at his best again this week as the Heat embark on their series against the Thunder, who enter the best-of-seven NBA Finals as the -170 favorites to win the title at the sportsbooks.

The Heat, who finished with just one fewer win than the Thunder during the regular season, are the +150 underdogs on the series lines heading into Game 1 of the series on Tuesday night.


real predictable all right...

milominderbinde
06-21-2012, 12:47 PM
Miami has outplayed OKC and LBJ has put all doubt to rest. BUT, how can 85% of the close calls go Miami's way? I have no dog in this fight and can't stop being amazed at how one sided the officiating is.

smith&wesson
06-21-2012, 01:04 PM
no. credit the heat for the win they earned it. credit where its due!

bosh wasnt even playing for what like 9 of the playoff games ? thats their 3rd best player. they still fought through and made it. wade playing hurt. lebron carrying the team. its a good enough story for me.

JordansBulls
06-21-2012, 01:38 PM
Before the season Miami was the favorite, but they were also the favorite to have the best record. However once the finals came, OKC became the favorite, even though Miami could win the series as well. There is nothing wrong with Miami winning especially when OKC became the favorite while having HCA. It is there fault for not coming out the correct way in game 2.

TylerSL
06-21-2012, 01:55 PM
OKC-83 total fouls in the series

Miami-77 total fouls in the series

OKC only has 6 more fouls called on them in this series, and that includes the fouls at the end of games that OKC has been forced to be making to prolong the game. Fouls are being called even. OP has no arguement, just another crybaby excuse maker because the Heat are close to winning. Obviously its not over yet, but I'm not sure OKC can survive an elimination game on the road, in the Finals.

Note-I used http://www.nba.com/playoffs/2012/finals/ as my source, and I went to the box score of each game and added the ammount of fouls each team committed each game, and this is what I found.

TylerSL
06-21-2012, 02:01 PM
Miami has outplayed OKC and LBJ has put all doubt to rest. BUT, how can 85% of the close calls go Miami's way? I have no dog in this fight and can't stop being amazed at how one sided the officiating is.

OKC has 83 fouls calls against them, Miami has 77.

Westbrook had that panic fould on Chalmers with 12 seconds, the Thunder fouled Miami shooting 3's 2 times in Game 3. They dont do that, its 80 for OKC, and that includes the late fouls they've had to make to keep time on the clock.

okcmike
06-22-2012, 01:05 AM
It's not the close numbers of fouls, it's the number of bogus fouls called on OKC. The number of bogus fouls A) put the Heat at the free throw line more than they should have been. B) puts OKC players in foul trouble, that shouldn't be C) limits playing minutes of players in foul trouble D) and it make players more timid because they are in foul trouble....over bogus calls.