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Ilovetosuckdip
06-19-2012, 06:46 PM
sorry, couldnt list teams in the title, too long, but all those players as well as evan turner are in play for the 10th(Hornets) and 11th (Blazers) pick


The New Orleans Hornets and Portland Trail Blazers are two teams that have been rumored to be interested in trading their late lottery picks in order to acquire young veteran player. ESPN's Chad Ford writes that the players in play for these picks include B-level talent such as Paul Millsap, Evan Turner, Eric Bledsoe and Darren Collison. This report is rather vague if it is sourced material, or just speculation.


If the Hornets are looking to trade Pick 10 for a young veteran, who are some of the potential targets?

Chad Ford: Darren Collison, Eric Bledsoe, Evan Turner I've heard a lot. Ditto for Paul Millsap of the Jazz. By the way, I'm told the Blazers are looking at the same group of players at 11 if they decide to trade the pick.

Cal827
06-19-2012, 06:52 PM
I'd trade 10th straight up for Turner... we are only like 2 years from him being drafted 2nd overall... He's shown flashes that he can be really good.

CavsYanksDuke
06-19-2012, 06:54 PM
See, this is difficult because we don't know if Gordon is coming back. If he doesn't, then I'd go for a wing player like Turner. However, if he does come back, then Millsap paired with Davis and Gordon would be great for NOLA.

fadedmario
06-19-2012, 06:55 PM
Wow, Turner = Bust. It's official.

STL Don
06-19-2012, 06:56 PM
Turner and Millsap would be worth it .. Bledsoe is questionable, certainly not Collison

CEasFiRe
06-19-2012, 06:56 PM
milsap

Raps18-19 Champ
06-19-2012, 06:56 PM
I'll gladly take Evan Turner for the 8th pick.

Bravo95
06-19-2012, 06:58 PM
Millsap.

The_Jamal
06-19-2012, 06:58 PM
Milsap is worth heck of a lot more than the 10th or 11th pick. He's a great poster scorer, a good rebounder, and he improved a lot of the defensive end this season

ManRam
06-19-2012, 07:01 PM
Turner and Millsap would be worth it .. Bledsoe is questionable, certainly not Collison

Agreed. If I'm NO I'd trade the 10 for Trillsap in a heartbeat. Gordon-Millsap-Davis would be a great core.

Chronz
06-19-2012, 07:03 PM
Whos available at 10 that would be worth all these names?

ManRam
06-19-2012, 07:03 PM
See, this is difficult because we don't know if Gordon is coming back. If he doesn't, then I'd go for a wing player like Turner. However, if he does come back, then Millsap paired with Davis and Gordon would be great for NOLA.

I still don't see how NO lets him go. I just can't imagine them doing it. Gotta hold onto him...even if you have to overpay a little.




Also. Does the OP have a link. I'd google it myself but I'm on my phone and don't wanna!

b@llhog24
06-19-2012, 07:08 PM
Whos available at 10 that would be worth all these names?

Jarred Sullinger, Jeremy Lamb, Kendall Marshall, John Henson, Tyler Zeller, Austin Rivers, and even Perry Jones may be available.

LakersA's49ers
06-19-2012, 07:08 PM
millsap and turner are big yesses for the hornets and blazers. collison is nice, and bledsoe is a wash

thekmp211
06-19-2012, 07:09 PM
i'd hang on to turner over all those guys but otherwise, why not. rivers, PJ3, lamb and henson imo would be worth any of those names besides ET.

That Guy Mooque
06-19-2012, 07:11 PM
I might boycott my Sixers if they give up Turner for any of those names mentioned above.

JeffG20
06-19-2012, 07:14 PM
Milsap is the best option provided that take Okafor or Ariza with the pick.
Also interested to see if they will play Davis at center then.

Jack and probably Vasquez are better then collison. Bledsoe is interesting too

b@llhog24
06-19-2012, 07:19 PM
Milsap is the best option provided that take Okafor or Ariza with the pick.
Also interested to see if they will play Davis at center then.

Jack and probably Vasquez are better then collison. Bledsoe is interesting too

:no:

Shkelqim
06-19-2012, 07:31 PM
Are u serious Turner will not be moved

Jarvo
06-19-2012, 07:31 PM
Gordon-Millsap-Davis = 8th Seed Playoff Team, I'll take that.

Baller1
06-19-2012, 07:32 PM
Trade it for Milsap in a heartbeat.

yaswaggin
06-19-2012, 07:33 PM
No way in hell do the sixers trade ET fit the 10th pick

He got a lot of minutes after the all star break and earned every one of them

He is an elite rebounding guard, can finish very well, solid defender, and his jumper improved


His ceiling is a 17 ppg 7 rpg SG which is not what you look for with the second pick, but almost star caliber

king2218
06-19-2012, 07:34 PM
Ryan Anderson, Turkoglu, Magic 19th pick for Okafor, Ariza & 10th pick. :D

GiantsSwaGG
06-19-2012, 07:35 PM
Amare for Milsap

TylerSL
06-19-2012, 07:36 PM
uh Milsap. If I'm New Orleans I would totally take him for the 10th pick. Just look how young their lineup will be.

PG.Jack-28
SG.Gordon-23
SF.Aminu-21
PF.Davis-19
C.Millsap-27
6th Man-Okafor-29

pretty good future, all that with cap space left over.

(I'm assuming Ariza is amnestied, so Aminu is SF, and Kaman is let go.)

jeter4president
06-19-2012, 07:43 PM
Zero chance the sixers give up turner for a pick other than a top 3 pick. This is a case of the source just wanting to add new, exciting names.

JoeDirt05
06-19-2012, 07:47 PM
turner for the #11 sounds like a steal for me get it done NEIL!

JeffG20
06-19-2012, 07:48 PM
:no:

Milsap has a big contract. We're not taking another one unless they dump another

mgsports
06-19-2012, 07:53 PM
Iggy is the guy the 76ERS are trying to Trade.
For the magic to aquire Okafor Howard would have to be gone because neither can play PF anymore.

jrap2
06-19-2012, 07:59 PM
not a chance in the world the sixers trade Turner..smh

topdog
06-19-2012, 08:06 PM
Milsap is the best option provided that take Okafor or Ariza with the pick.
Also interested to see if they will play Davis at center then.

Jack and probably Vasquez are better then collison. Bledsoe is interesting too

I'd disagree. It's interesting though that NOLA could get him back with the way he played for them when Paul was out.

dee279
06-19-2012, 08:14 PM
Evan Turner in a heartbeat.

smith&wesson
06-19-2012, 08:19 PM
Milsap or Turner

dhopisthename
06-19-2012, 08:48 PM
Milsap has a big contract. We're not taking another one unless they dump another

what? he has 1 year left at like 8 mill. I would almost think that unless there is someone that they really want 10 I don't think the jazz would do that trade unless they got something else

IndyRealist
06-19-2012, 08:51 PM
I can't imagine either Turner or Milsap have been offered for just the pick. That's ridiculous on multiple levels.

SportsNY
06-19-2012, 09:05 PM
Paul Milsap. I feel he's the most talented he, a very underrated player. A change of scenery might even help him.

Jays Claw
06-19-2012, 09:06 PM
The likes of Milsap and Turner are of greater value to a team's production than any college name available from picks #8-12.

JeffG20
06-19-2012, 09:20 PM
what? he has 1 year left at like 8 mill. I would almost think that unless there is someone that they really want 10 I don't think the jazz would do that trade unless they got something else

I thought he had longer left and was owed more. My mistake

Clippersfan86
06-20-2012, 03:03 AM
I truly don't think people are grasping the upside of Eric Bledsoe. He should NOT be traded for anything in this draft unless it's a top 5 pick. I highly doubt more than 3 players from this draft end up being better than Bledsoe will be. We are talking about a Rondo type player with less passing/playmaking but better defense type upside.

Bledsoe's PER 36 this year was 10 ppg, 5 rpg, 5 apg, 2.5 spg and 1 bpg. I don't think people who aren't Clippers fans have any clue how massive his impact is on both ends. I can't tell you how many times the Clippers actually looked BETTER with Bledsoe on the court rather than CP3. Which is saying a lot when you're talking about the best PG in the game.

Wolfman01
06-20-2012, 04:32 AM
Milsap will be the better choice out of them all. I don't understand why the Hornets will want Collison back after trading him. The Hornets should of kept Collison even when they use to had Paul.

popo85
06-20-2012, 04:53 AM
Other 3 yes, no way Bledsoe is worth such a high pick Clippers can keep dreaming.

SeoulBeatz
06-20-2012, 05:15 AM
Our F.O can't be THAT stupid...can they?

Don't trade Turner. He's finally starting to get it together. There are no players at 11 who have more potential than E.T, just keep him and Jrue together and trade Iggy god damnit.

Vikingfan84
06-20-2012, 06:28 AM
I still think we (Hornets) should take Drummond at 10 and be done with it.

xnick5757
06-20-2012, 07:35 AM
Turner is really, really bad. Check out his advanced metrics for this season and postseason.

2-ONE-5
06-20-2012, 07:43 AM
there is no way Turner will get dealt for just the 10th pick

Method28
06-20-2012, 07:52 AM
I truly don't think people are grasping the upside of Eric Bledsoe. He should NOT be traded for anything in this draft unless it's a top 5 pick. I highly doubt more than 3 players from this draft end up being better than Bledsoe will be. We are talking about a Rondo type player with less passing/playmaking but better defense type upside.

Bledsoe's PER 36 this year was 10 ppg, 5 rpg, 5 apg, 2.5 spg and 1 bpg. I don't think people who aren't Clippers fans have any clue how massive his impact is on both ends. I can't tell you how many times the Clippers actually looked BETTER with Bledsoe on the court rather than CP3. Which is saying a lot when you're talking about the best PG in the game.

While I agree.that Bledsoe is greatly underrated....I highly disagree that LAC looked.better with Soe than CP. I loved CP with Soe.both.on the court and.dont understand why it wasnt done more.

Would I trade.Soe for a top 10 pick....I wouldnt want to but.idk if there's many other ways to try to improve

jimbobjarree
06-20-2012, 12:16 PM
Don't know about this, I think I'd want more than just the pick for Millsap, unless a big name somehow falls to 10. We must be high on Lillard/Marshall to be thinking about this deal.

zB_#85
06-20-2012, 12:23 PM
Don't know about this, I think I'd want more than just the pick for Millsap, unless a big name somehow falls to 10. We must be high on Lillard/Marshall to be thinking about this deal.

plus you guys have a huge logjam in the frontcourt and could afford to move him if it fills a deeper void. Al Jeff / Sexy Enes / Favors isn't too shabby.

Stinkyoutsider
06-20-2012, 12:31 PM
Millsap would be worth it because he still young, experienced, and is a hard working player. He would be a great addition to a very young team.

I would take Evan Turner though, even if Gordon stays with the team in NO. Turner is very verstaile and can handle the ball, create his own shot, and play D. He just needs to be in good shape and he'll be a great player for the Hornets. I'm sure he can even play the point guard, go with Gordon out a the 2, and have Davis at the 4.

BKLYNpigeon
06-20-2012, 12:54 PM
Evan Turner is a solid role player. He just donest have the athleticism to be a great player.

SugeKnight
06-20-2012, 01:41 PM
I still think we (Hornets) should take Drummond at 10 and be done with it.

No way he falls past 7

Losoway
06-20-2012, 02:31 PM
milsap

COOLbeans
06-20-2012, 06:13 PM
I truly don't think people are grasping the upside of Eric Bledsoe. He should NOT be traded for anything in this draft unless it's a top 5 pick. I highly doubt more than 3 players from this draft end up being better than Bledsoe will be. We are talking about a Rondo type player with less passing/playmaking but better defense type upside.

Sounds like Avery Bradley.

Clippersfan86
06-21-2012, 03:58 AM
Duplicate

Clippersfan86
06-21-2012, 04:06 AM
Sounds like Avery Bradley.

Higher upside. Bradley is a more consistent and mature scorer and slightly better man defender at this point but Bledsoe is the better rebounder, shotblocker, passer, and ball thief. Bledsoe's defense on Tony Parker and Manu in the playoffs was incredible. Multiple possessions where these HOF guards couldn't even get a shot up before a 24 second violation.

He had some monster games in the playoffs while Bradley was a complete no show (probably mostly due to his shoulder injuries).

Bledsoe had a game of 23 points, 5 rebounds, 4 assists, 3 steals and 2 blocks. This is the kind of stat stuffing Bledsoe does when given the chance. Guy won't score 20 often but the rebounds, assists, steals and blocks combined are things Bradley can't replicate. Bledsoe was 2nd in the NBA for guard rebound rate and 2nd in shotblocking rate after Wade.

Same series... he had another game of 17 points, 4 rebounds, 3 assists, 1 steal and a block. Scored 12 in the 4th alone and this was in 25 minutes off the bench.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YA9slr7F0kI

Check out their PER 36 stats this year... with Bledsoe coming off a torn MCL. This stat line gives a perfect representation of what I feel about each player. Bradley better scorer, Bledsoe better rebounder, passer, shotblocker and ball thief. Bradley is a slightly better man defender but Bledsoe is close.

Avery Bradley: 12.7 ppg, 3 rpg, 2.3 apg, 1.1 spg, .3 bpg.

Eric Bledsoe: 10.2 ppg, 5 rpg, 5.1 apg, 2.4 spg, 1.1 bpg.


The only quantifiable thing in terms of their man defense is Synergy Stats. Bradley allows only .74 ppp, Bledsoe allows .78... both in the elite category in terms of man defense with Bradley a little ahead obviously.

AsfanSince99
06-21-2012, 05:48 AM
Evan Turner aint going no where

-Kobe24-TJ19-
06-21-2012, 07:40 AM
Amare for Milsap

jazz says hell noooo

-Kobe24-TJ19-
06-21-2012, 07:46 AM
Millsap - hell yes
Turner - yes
Collison - no
Bledsoe - lol

b@llhog24
06-21-2012, 05:10 PM
I truly don't think people are grasping the upside of Eric Bledsoe. He should NOT be traded for anything in this draft unless it's a top 5 pick. I highly doubt more than 3 players from this draft end up being better than Bledsoe will be. We are talking about a Rondo type player with less passing/playmaking but better defense type upside.

Bledsoe's PER 36 this year was 10 ppg, 5 rpg, 5 apg, 2.5 spg and 1 bpg. I don't think people who aren't Clippers fans have any clue how massive his impact is on both ends. I can't tell you how many times the Clippers actually looked BETTER with Bledsoe on the court rather than CP3. Which is saying a lot when you're talking about the best PG in the game.

That's because it doesn't happen.

Kyben36
06-21-2012, 05:27 PM
Turner always had ball control issues in college, time will fix that, I hope they dont give up on him, plus, Iggy is suposed to be out so that means they can build around him.

wonder who everyone is after. ???