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aLau10
06-15-2012, 01:23 PM
Ok I know I'd probably get a lot of hate comments for this, but seriously, let's stop and think ask ourselves this first...
"Were NBA basketball games back in the 90s and early 00s much more enjoyable and fun to watch in comparison with today's NBA basketball games?"

Personally, I have to say, YES! Not saying I don't enjoy watching the NBA now, but it simply doesn't EXCITE me as much!

Like in a thread I commented earlier, the game of basketball in today's NBA has transformed into a much more athleticism oriented game. It consists too much of players putting up solo performances, simply just trucking through 50 players or jumping 1000ft high and finishing with an emphatic slam. There simply isn't anything wrong with that style of play, it's simply a different approach to the game, but once again, consists too much of players relying solely on their athleticism. It kinda feels like this style of play is erasing "True" basketball.

In comparison, the NBA back in the day's (we talking about probably just a decade or two back) truly defined the game of basketball as what it actually suppose to be. Personally, I don't think that the players back then are inferior in any way athletically, just look at Jordan, Kemp, Dominique, Pippen, Rodman....etc. Though, I must say it is possible that players today may seem or actually be slightly more athletic only because of the evolution of technology that is available for them to enhance their physicality or training routines. However, the game of basketball is still highly regarded as a TEAM game, and the players from back in the day truly incorporated and demonstrated "Teamwork" masterfully in their game. It's inarguable how much more team oriented those guys were back in the days.

Just look at all the teams that won championships...Bulls, Rockets, Lakers, Spurs, Pistons and notable teams that were close to winning championships like...SuperSonics, Jazz, Kings.

Let's not mistaken my statement here though, I didn't necessarily say there are no teamwork oriented teams in the NBA today, but there are explicitly far LESS. Teams back then actually moves the ball as a team and score as a team, making the game much more of a nail cruncher. TODAY? Yes it is most definitely an intriguing scenery to see emphatic dunks & spectacular oops thrown from all angles on the court, but simply doesn't get the excitement to build, if you know what I mean.

And please, don't just come and post hate comments if you haven't watch a single game from the 90's or 00's, because that'll be sorta outrageous, but please post if you are interested in watching how the old NBA teams run ****. And if anyone has links to watching these old games, post here too. Love to watch them again.

What do you guys think? :superman:

asandhu23
06-15-2012, 01:50 PM
Better teams back then. Its a snoozefest these days with all the ticky tacky foul calls.

celtNYpatsHeels
06-15-2012, 02:08 PM
Its as simple as this:

Guys were just more competitive. The guys in the NBA these days are all friends and divas. Noone really cares about winning and kicking the other guy's ***

Chronz
06-15-2012, 02:53 PM
Honest question, was there ever a Finals in the 90's that involved MJ that you felt was as up in the air as some of the 2K finals?

Detroit vs SAS, Miami vs OKC. Were there as many upsets? Dallas vs Miami?

KB-Pau-DH2012
06-15-2012, 02:58 PM
I miss the NBA of old. What's keeping me watching the sport is my Lakers and Kobe. But I don't like watching my Lakers that much because it seems like Andrew Bynum will be the future, and he's just a portray of today's soft Diva-like NBA.

It'll be a sad day when Kobe and all the other guys like Duncan, KG, Kidd, Nash, Dirk etc. retire from the game in the next 2-4 yrs. I'll still watch my Lakers, but probably not the entire NBA landscape as much as I do now. Not even rivalries and hatred these days. :(

aLau10
06-15-2012, 03:34 PM
Honest question, was there ever a Finals in the 90's that involved MJ that you felt was as up in the air as some of the 2K finals?

Detroit vs SAS, Miami vs OKC. Were there as many upsets? Dallas vs Miami?

First of all you have to note, I did not specifically say the finals only, there are far to many teams that did not make it into the finals that totally deserved to. I'm basically stating this based on the league back then as an overall.

Honestly speaking though, YES there were Finals that involved MJ that felt was up in the air. And sorry I did include 00's in my post didn't I? therefore Detroit vs SAS is part of it.

Uhhh as far as I know Miami and OKC were two teams that were set to win it all this year? Therefore, not really understanding what you mean by upset....

aLau10
06-15-2012, 03:36 PM
It'll be a sad day when Kobe and all the other guys like Duncan, KG, Kidd, Nash, Dirk etc. retire from the game in the next 2-4 yrs. Not even rivalries and hatred these days. :(

Totally with you, I think only older people would understand what I'm trying to say here. :)

knicks4life33
06-15-2012, 03:43 PM
basketball was so much funner to watch years ago. you dont even have the traditional center anymore which has slowly fazed out of the game. all the soft fouls is ridiculous and then the dumb technicals for showing emotions .All the players are buddies and back in the day every team hated each other. Nobody were buddy buddies

Reversed86Curse
06-15-2012, 04:02 PM
Honest question, was there ever a Finals in the 90's that involved MJ that you felt was as up in the air as some of the 2K finals?

Detroit vs SAS, Miami vs OKC. Were there as many upsets? Dallas vs Miami?

I feel as if the 91 finals and 92 finals were definitely up in the air. Lakers and Blazers could have beaten the Bulls those years. Second 3-peat not so much though

mRc08
06-15-2012, 04:12 PM
I think we are all just getting older, and thus, it takes more to excite us now.

knicks4life33
06-15-2012, 04:15 PM
I think we are all just getting older, and thus, it takes more to excite us now.

You my friend might need viagra lol

Mr_Jones
06-15-2012, 04:20 PM
I miss the early 2000's.
Even the uniforms of today just have a weird feel to them. Everything is way too flashy nowadays.

albertc86
06-15-2012, 04:21 PM
Better individual talent today. Better team oriented ball back then.

aLau10
06-15-2012, 04:28 PM
You my friend might need viagra lol

LOL :hi5:

aLau10
06-15-2012, 04:30 PM
Better individual talent today. Better team oriented ball back then.

I wouldn't quite say they guys today are better individually, thats another overstatement there. MJ, Pippen, Clyde, Bird, Johnson, Stockton, Olajuwan, Barkley....c'mon you cant say they are better individually....

BobbyHillSwag
06-15-2012, 04:39 PM
the nba has sucked since 2007 plain and simple. melo, durant, and spurs are the only people/things that keep me watching.

Chronz
06-15-2012, 05:03 PM
First of all you have to note, I did not specifically say the finals only, there are far to many teams that did not make it into the finals that totally deserved to. I'm basically stating this based on the league back then as an overall.
Same thing with today so I dont really see the point here. I just chose the Finals to involve MJ vs the West.


Honestly speaking though, YES there were Finals that involved MJ that felt was up in the air. And sorry I did include 00's in my post didn't I? therefore Detroit vs SAS is part of it.

So where is your cut off exactly? Are you asking us to compare everything prior to 2007 vs everything after that year?

And which years did you feel they were in question?


Uhhh as far as I know Miami and OKC were two teams that were set to win it all this year? Therefore, not really understanding what you mean by upset....

I wasnt saying it was an upset, that was the series I said seems like its up in the air more than I can recall any Finals with MJ. The upset comparison comes after the word upset, not before.

3RDASYSTEM
06-15-2012, 05:10 PM
the nba is trash because its a 'multi-billion' dollar BUSINESS

We play it(speaking for me) for love of sport then when you make it to that business of NBA then you start playing for all that other **** that didnt get you there in first place..so thats why the league is garbage, regards of players talent/game/athletic ability, the superstars always been there every era


like NOAH said about the HEAT(nba)....they pure HOLLYWOOD

Hawkeye15
06-15-2012, 05:19 PM
I think most people are fond of the older days in anything, why would the NBA be any different? Being 15, watching Jordan win his first title against a player I hated in Magic, was way more fun than watching today for me personally for example.

In reality, I am more into the NBA now than I ever have been, as far as following teams outside my own. But the memories of watching the NBA growing up can only possibly be replaced if my Wolves win a championship, and lord knows that probably won't happen.

rocket
06-15-2012, 05:47 PM
It's common sense that it is.

ink
06-15-2012, 05:51 PM
Haven't read any of the thread but this finals matchup is one of the best, or could be one of the best, I've ever seen.

X12Celtics3
06-15-2012, 06:19 PM
I think most people are fond of the older days in anything, why would the NBA be any different? Being 15, watching Jordan win his first title against a player I hated in Magic, was way more fun than watching today for me personally for example.

In reality, I am more into the NBA now than I ever have been, as far as following teams outside my own. But the memories of watching the NBA growing up can only possibly be replaced if my Wolves win a championship, and lord knows that probably won't happen.

I don't know, I don't feel the same way about the NFL that I do the NBA. There is the same general feeling that the game is not quite what it used to be, but in the NFL its due to a change in the way the game is played (from balanced offenses to the Colts/Patriots/Saints/Packers airing it out all game). The league has gotten a lot better in other ways, such as the salary cap and the rookie wage scale, and I love the NFL as much as ever.

The NBA just doesn't feel the same to me. As many have said, it just doesn't feel like the guys care quite the same way anymore. There is very little bitterness and much less intensity in the rivalries, there is a general "if you can't beat them, join them!" attitude among the league's stars when it comes to free agency, there is very, very little parity (big market cities get big name players, bottom feeders stay bottom feeders until they luck out and get a good enough draft pick to make them a contender), the game isn't as physical anymore (some players like to throw themselves into the paint and go to the line even when they initiated the contact and a lot of others just flail their arms about when they shoot in the paint to make it look like they got fouled), and it too often feels like the kind of calls the officials give out on any given night have far too large an effect on the game.

I still enjoy watching the NBA, but it is certainly the weakest its been during my lifetime and it was much more fun to watch during the early 2000s and earlier (even though for the latter part of the 90s and most of the 2000s until '07 my favorite team, the Celtics, was pretty much crap).

KB-Pau-DH2012
06-15-2012, 06:40 PM
Also, I don't think the NBA and its marquee games are advertised in a way that gets your riled up. ABC sucks hard. The Peacock station, NBC, did the best at promoting the marquee games on Sunday afternoons, and during playoff and Finals times. ESPN and it's individual shows and ABC and with 90% coverage of the Heat and LeBron have really ****ed everything up. All they talk about is one man's journey to win a title and they shoved everyone else aside.

The NBA is very poorly advertised, Stern keeps ****ing this up with the reffing, not doing anything about flopping, vetoing trades left and right, rigging the draft lottery. It's too much of a sentimental game of whether or not guys get offended by the media. It's just horrible. There's no way to defend today's NBA. It's just flat out horrible. :pity:

JasonJohnHorn
06-15-2012, 06:51 PM
I liked the games back in the day more because post players were allowed to work the post. The NBA came up with the "3 seconds with your back to the basket" rule and now post players have to essentially catch and release, or do a quick move to the basket. I like watching the post players grind it out and work on getting position to score. But some said it slowed the game down (though there are fewer possessions today than back then). Today's game is more about gaurd play, the NBA has really seemed to make rules in favour of the guards, especially on offence. But i would say different but equally good if there was an option for it.

NBAfan4life
06-15-2012, 07:38 PM
I have only been watching since 94-95, but I enjoy the NBA just as much if not more than back then. I'm 29 and it all started for me with Penny and Shaq. Then eventually I was all about Kobe and the Lakers. It will be a sad day when Kobe is in deep decline (next couple years) as he is my all time favorite player.

I think Durant will be fun to watch for many years. The Wolves could be fun to watch. For me you have to have people to root for and against. Then the NBA will be enjoyable for you.

BobbyHillSwag
06-15-2012, 08:36 PM
wolves will be rivaling thunder in about 3 years. im serious they have a lot of good pieces. missing the playoffs every year is helping them big time

Hawkeye15
06-15-2012, 09:17 PM
wolves will be rivaling thunder in about 3 years. im serious they have a lot of good pieces. missing the playoffs every year is helping them big time

For the first time in your PSD history, or at least the posts I have read, I hope so badly you are dead on haha.

NBAfan4life
06-15-2012, 11:16 PM
For the first time in your PSD history, or at least the posts I have read, I hope so badly you are dead on haha.

I hope so too. Here in Minnesota our sport teams suck. Last season before Rubio got hurt Mn was fun to watch.

aLau10
06-16-2012, 12:37 AM
Personally I'm only 20, so normally I wouldn't have paid much attention to the OLD days in the NBA, but my older brother brought me into this game that i love so much. Seriously, its potentially the best thing he has ever brought me into =P Like I said, not saying that today's NBA sucks, but its simply just not at the same level of intensity. When people have time, go on youtube and search up the 2000's Sacramento Kings. It's really worth to watch, and you'll understand the greatness of what basketball is actually suppose to be. :o

ChitownBears22
06-16-2012, 12:39 AM
In the 90's you played to win, winners got endorsement deals to go along with their pay. Now you can be Rashard Lewis and get a 100 mill contract.

aLau10
06-16-2012, 01:30 AM
In the 90's you played to win, winners got endorsement deals to go along with their pay. Now you can be Rashard Lewis and get a 100 mill contract.

Ditto!

Daye&Knight
06-16-2012, 01:49 AM
It's not fun when every player wants to play for Miami , lakers or Knicks..or when you can't breath on a player without a foul being called back then the refs would actually let you play

JC_
06-16-2012, 02:20 AM
I think it just comes down to how the games are called these days. It seems as though it's all about making sure things don't escalate. There are still a lot of great competitors who would thrive if the league was tough like the olden days but it's just not possible to play that way and get away with it anymore. KG has that kind of swag but most people wouldn't get away with half the **** he does.

When something like the "malace at the palace" happends, it's hard to justify letting players be aggressive the way they used to be.

b_russ
06-16-2012, 02:55 AM
NBA on NBC. /Thread