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NYSpirit1
06-10-2012, 11:47 AM
Even as a Knicks fan, I think it's appropriate that Allen and Garnett retire after this season as Celtics. Either that, or sign up one more year at an affordable price.

Garnett just went through the second phase of his career, post-Timberwolves and there's no need to see him in a third phase on another team. Same with Allen.

It'd only seem right to see them retire Celtics. The worst kind of players are the ones who play for too long, like if Allen played three more years and turned into a 15-20 minute, 8 point a game role player.

Lastly, most of all, it just wouldn't look appropriate and right to see them in other jerseys, even Allen in a Knicks jersey. Sure they'd help other teams, but it's almost felt like they've spent their entire careers with the Celtics now because of everything they've accomplished.

Here's hoping to they both retire.

xxplayerxx23
06-10-2012, 11:50 AM
No why would they do that, Celtics werent the team that drafted them, Plus both have some left in the tank, NBA is a bussiness they will go onto a new team if they still want to play

PhillyFaninLA
06-10-2012, 11:56 AM
Paul Pierce should retire a Celtic.

I'd like to see Garnett go back to Minnesota for a year or two and retire a Wolve.

I'd like to see Allen take on a Robert Horry role as a the guy playing limited but essential minutes on a great team and have the role of hitting the huge shot.

heyman321
06-10-2012, 11:58 AM
They shouldn't re-sign with the Celtics because the Celts honestly have nothing left (at least not to get to the championship). BUT Garnett and Allen both have a lot left in the tank. Who knew Garnett could average such great numbers at center? And Ray Allen could still shoot it if his legs are healthy. They should just go to contenders like Miami or Chicago.

jimm120
06-10-2012, 12:04 PM
Yes, it would be good to retire as a Celtic...BUT the problem is that they really DO still have at least 2 more years in the league...and to re-sign, they always re-seign for the same/or more...so the Celtics aren't gonna do that.

Chavacano
06-10-2012, 12:06 PM
Business is business. :shrug:

Theyhateme459
06-10-2012, 12:13 PM
Yea I wouldn't want them to retire... They have a couple years left and you have to enjoy watching them play. I think they can be a critical piece and help elevate the performance of a few teams....

Like, Atlanta (Though I hate the hawks)... Young talented team, with legs, who could use some veteran leadership and play to make them a threat.

theheatles
06-10-2012, 12:14 PM
Ray still has an elite skill set, he has 3 yrs left

LongIslandIcedZ
06-10-2012, 12:15 PM
KG just did work in the playoffs. Hell no should he retire

bagwell368
06-10-2012, 12:18 PM
Allen has a lot left in the tank? Please. Last year he had one of the greatest seasons for a #2 guard in NBA history of his age. This year the feet and the ankles started to undercut his abilities big time. He's a very proud guy that may be one of the 3-4 hardest workers in the NBA on staying in shape - but Father Time is calling. He should retire because he'll never have another healthy year again.

KG OTOH does have probably two decent years left in the tank. If I was the Celts I'd sign him for two for the max raise. Will he be worth it? No. But his slot come two years later will be the largest FA slot which is liable to draw the best FA.

This years FA class is weak so, why go off the books with KG? Let Allen walk, cash in the two draft picks. After '12-'13, amnesty PP to get out his last year, snag a nice FA and another nice pick, then KG's slot the following year.

Matrix3132
06-10-2012, 12:19 PM
Paul Pierce should retire a Celtic.

I'd like to see Garnett go back to Minnesota for a year or two and retire a Wolve.

I'd like to see Allen take on a Robert Horry role as a the guy playing limited but essential minutes on a great team and have the role of hitting the huge shot.

x2. I tend to see players as they were in their prime rather than when they win rings and will always see Garnett as a Wolve first and allen as a Buck/Sonic.

-Kobe24-TJ19-
06-10-2012, 12:20 PM
another stupid thread by OP:sigh:

rocket
06-10-2012, 12:21 PM
:laugh2:

pd7631
06-10-2012, 12:26 PM
"the worst kind of players are the ones who play too long"

Who the hell are you, or anyone, to say when a player should retire? If they still love playing the game, and if their services are still desired, then they should play as long as they want.

Chavacano
06-10-2012, 12:30 PM
another stupid thread by OP:sigh:

:laugh:

Il Mago50
06-10-2012, 12:41 PM
They shouldn't re-sign with the Celtics because the Celts honestly have nothing left (at least not to get to the championship). BUT Garnett and Allen both have a lot left in the tank. Who knew Garnett could average such great numbers at center? And Ray Allen could still shoot it if his legs are healthy. They should just go to contenders like Miami or Chicago.

I see it a lot differently. Rondo has become one of the best PGs in the league and is improving his shooting. The thing that hurt this team was their lack of depth and their size down low. Due to that, I really think they have another shot or two, especially next year when Chicago will have Rose at far below his usual self come playoff time.

Currently, they have 24M in cap space and 28M if Bass opts out. Let's assume that the cap is set at 58M.

You bring back Ray and KG for a season at 8M for a season each, KG for 3 so that he retires as a Celtic. You bring in Jeff Green for about 4-5M per season, Brendan Haywood for 3-4M when he's amnestied or Asik for 5M, and some cheaper shooters

KG - Asik
Bass - Green
Pierce
Allen - Bradley
Rondo

They need a bit of size and some more shooting besides Ray cuz Pierce is streaky but otherwise they still have a clear shot at making it to the finals. Another possibility: trade for Rudy Gay.

If they dealt their two draft picks and Avery Bradley for Rudy Gay, brought back KG for 3 seasons, let Ray walk, and brought in Randy Foye, Jeff Green and Brendan Haywood from FA,

KG - Haywood
Bass - Jeff Green
Gay - Jeff Green
Pierce - Foye
Rondo

utl768
06-10-2012, 02:20 PM
garnett is still an elite pf who has probably 2-3 more years of solid production left if he lands in a situation were he is monitored properly

ray allen is nothing more then a situational three point specialist at this point (anything more and he will be injured all year)

neither should resign with boston though if there serious about winning because the celtics left everything on the table last night

Chronz
06-10-2012, 03:08 PM
If they want money then I wouldn't want Ray, if he wants a prominent role on the cheap I would love to take a flier on Ray, he should have signed with us all those years ago instead of taking the money to stay in Seattle.

Funny how people *****ed about stars leaving to bigger markets, wish Ray and Redd knew that

JasonJohnHorn
06-10-2012, 06:31 PM
I'd like to see them sign for the vet min. and let the Celitcs use the cap space to bring in a big name free agent.... see if they got enough in them for one more run.

John Walls Era
06-10-2012, 06:39 PM
Only Pierce, maybe KG. But both players played their prime somewhere else, especially Ray Allen.

raptor fan
06-10-2012, 07:15 PM
I think both Allen and Garnett have productive years ahead of them (2-3).

Allen would be a perfect fit playing with the clippers, as they have an amazing young nucleus, but could use the leadership and skillset that Allen provides.

Also, I think Garnett would be a great fit in Atlanta. I'm not sure if he'd be willing to go there, but that team is really talented, and maybe adding a vet like Garnett could take them from being a good regular season team to a team that can contend in the playoffs. I mean, Josh Smith could move to the SF spot, and Garnett could play PF:

PG: Teague
SG: Johnson
SF: Smith
PF: Garnett
C: Horford

Sadds The Gr8
06-10-2012, 07:17 PM
I think they should stay and retire there but it'd be fun to see where they'd end up if they left.

MU and UW Fan
06-10-2012, 07:40 PM
Would love to see Ray end his career where he began it in Milwaukee.

0nekhmer
06-10-2012, 11:03 PM
pierce should retire as a celtic, him, kobe, dirk, duncan are all players who stuck by their teams through the worst and best

DaSeba5
06-10-2012, 11:22 PM
The only person who should retire a Celtic is Pierce.

BKLYNpigeon
06-10-2012, 11:23 PM
if KG would retire today would he enter the Hall of Fame with the Minnesota Timberwolves or Boston Celtics?

5 seasons with Boston
12 seasons with Minnesota

MrfadeawayJB
06-10-2012, 11:50 PM
It would be nice to see them retire with the C's since the "big four" are perfect for each other. If they were all 3-4 years younger with Rondo at where he is now they would be champs. I just dont see it making sense for the Celtics in a business/winning perspective

LA_Raiders
06-11-2012, 12:02 AM
I can see Ray play for Chi Town and KG for the Lakers

kblo247
06-11-2012, 12:21 AM
Can the Clippers afford both? Lord knows signing and trading KG for Jordan would be smart because of that dumbass deal. Plus KG and Ray could both start there while helping teach Paul and Blake how to win