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KB-Pau-DH2012
06-07-2012, 10:57 PM
@ the Boston Garden, facing elimination in the Eastern Conference Finals.

45 Min
19-26 FG
2-3 3pters
5-9 FTs

45 pts, 15 rebs, 5 assts


:worthy: Legendary!

(Mods, please leave this thread up. It's not often we see performances on the road in the playoffs like this).

Becks2307
06-07-2012, 11:00 PM
this is the lebron people want to see
the one who is a killer who is like **** you to the doubters.

thats was awesome

Swashcuff
06-07-2012, 11:01 PM
Just to think had it been a closer ga,e he could have possibly gotten nearer 50 and 20. Huge game in the face of elimination for LeBron.

Not one of the greatest ever but certainly one of his best yet. I'd love to hear what Skip Bayless says tomorrow.

KB-Pau-DH2012
06-07-2012, 11:01 PM
He went King Mamba in Boston Garden. Just Legendary. Better than his game 5 07 ECF @ Detroit game.

ChitownBears22
06-07-2012, 11:02 PM
Congrats Bron. Bring this game to Miami game 7.

Wade>You
06-07-2012, 11:02 PM
45pts (19-26 FG, 5-9 FT)
15reb
5ast/4to

Nearly half his team's points tonight.

The most impressive part about his performance?

His will to keep his team's season alive.

You could see it in his body language.

jetsforever
06-07-2012, 11:03 PM
Fantastic game. Put the team on his back the entire first half. Really was a great thing to see, especially in a place as tough to play as Boston.

Swashcuff
06-07-2012, 11:03 PM
But but but I thought LeBron doesn't play with heart and he doesn't have KDs killer instinct? :rolleyes:

poleandreel
06-07-2012, 11:04 PM
He went King Mamba in Boston Garden. Just Legendary. Better than his game 5 07 ECF @ Detroit game.

Nope, Kobe could never be this efficient.

Raps18-19 Champ
06-07-2012, 11:05 PM
He had 4 TO's though so he still failed. :rolleyes:

koetravis
06-07-2012, 11:05 PM
I thought Rondo's game two was better.

dodie53
06-07-2012, 11:05 PM
monster game

Gators123
06-07-2012, 11:05 PM
Lol he couldn't score 50, what a scrub!

D12 fan
06-07-2012, 11:06 PM
Lebron is the best player in the NBA hands down.

Haters keep hating.

rocket
06-07-2012, 11:06 PM
Signature.

Thank you.

KB-Pau-DH2012
06-07-2012, 11:06 PM
I thought Rondo's game two was better.

But Boston lost that game.

GSWFanInLA
06-07-2012, 11:06 PM
I don't think it tops his Detroit game but damn this was one of his best playoff games.. amazing to watch.

Slug3
06-07-2012, 11:06 PM
Didnt score much in the 4th though.

MTone8788
06-07-2012, 11:07 PM
Good job, good effort!

KB-Pau-DH2012
06-07-2012, 11:08 PM
I don't think it tops his Detroit game but damn this was one of his best playoff games.. amazing to watch.

His legacy was on the line in this game. That was LeBron in his 4th season, but this is LeBron in his 9th season going for that 1st ring. It means more, and Boston garden is tougher place to play than at the Palace (although that is tough too).

Swashcuff
06-07-2012, 11:08 PM
I thought Rondo's game two was better.

If this game was closer LeBron could have dropped 55+on you guys. Rondo's game was good but not this good. LeBron carried his team like only a player of his calibre can.

MTone8788
06-07-2012, 11:08 PM
So despite it being an elimination game, people will still say Lebron isn't "clutch" because it was a blowout and not a close game.

rocket
06-07-2012, 11:09 PM
So what? http://www.ckyo.info

Was going to respond to saying your an idiot.

cool spam bro

Sadds The Gr8
06-07-2012, 11:11 PM
I hate him but this game was ridiculous...wow.

llemon
06-07-2012, 11:11 PM
He sure had a good game.

GSWFanInLA
06-07-2012, 11:11 PM
His legacy was on the line in this game. That was LeBron in his 4th season, but this is LeBron in his 9th season going for that 1st ring. It means more, and Boston garden is tougher place to play than at the Palace (although that is tough too).

I think the difference is he could have just played well tonight and the Heat still would have won.

But in the Detroit game, he literally won that game for the Cavs. Everytime the Pistons went up 2 or 3 Lebron just answered with a dunk or an off balance 3. Scored the last 25 points for the Cavs.. ****ing amazing

Dade County
06-07-2012, 11:12 PM
Basketball is fake.... NBA = Entertainment are you not entertained?

koetravis
06-07-2012, 11:12 PM
But Boston lost that game.

Great game by LeBron, no doubt. I personally thought Rondo's was better because it's Rondo. He can't hit a shot to save his life and then he pulled that out of a bag. I think James could do this every game if he really wanted too. Rondo on the other hand, could not.

PatsSoxKnicks
06-07-2012, 11:13 PM
Just to think had it been a closer ga,e he could have possibly gotten nearer 50 and 20. Huge game in the face of elimination for LeBron.

Not one of the greatest ever but certainly one of his best yet. I'd love to hear what Skip Bayless says tomorrow.

I think it is one of the greatest ever. Since 1986, NO player has ever had 45-15-5 in a playoff game. NO ONE. And to do it in a road playoff game facing elimination? Definitely one of the greatest performances in playoff history

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pgl_finder.cgi?request=1&player_id=&match=game&year_min=&year_max=&age_min=0&age_max=99&team_id=&opp_id=&is_playoffs=Y&round_is_ec1=Y&round_is_ecs=Y&round_is_ecf=Y&round_is_wc1=Y&round_is_wcs=Y&round_is_wcf=Y&round_is_fin=Y&game_num_type=team&game_num_min=&game_num_max=&game_month=&game_location=&game_result=&is_starter=&is_active=&is_hof=&pos_is_g=Y&pos_is_gf=Y&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_fg=Y&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&c1stat=pts&c1comp=gt&c1val=45&c2stat=trb&c2comp=gt&c2val=15&c3stat=ast&c3comp=gt&c3val=5&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&order_by=pts

jp611
06-07-2012, 11:13 PM
45pts (19-26 FG, 5-9 FT)
15reb
5ast/4to

Nearly half his team's points tonight.

The most impressive part about his performance?

His will to keep his team's season alive.

You could see it in his body language.

Was there anything rigged?

NBAFan2012
06-07-2012, 11:14 PM
But but but I thought LeBron doesn't play with heart and he doesn't have KDs killer instinct? :rolleyes:


He doesnt. The Heat built up a 20 point lead. Like Skip Bayless said, Lebron is a great front runner. I give Lebron James credit though because he made the game out of reach to keep it from being one of those close games where he typically fails.

njnets
06-07-2012, 11:15 PM
wade played awful and he still willed his team to a double digit victory by dominating the whole game.

NBAFan2012
06-07-2012, 11:15 PM
Ah these reactionary threads are great.

Becks2307
06-07-2012, 11:15 PM
Lebron real talk: good job! good effort!

ChitownBears22
06-07-2012, 11:16 PM
What is amazing is he did it shooting jumpers. I was under the firm belief he had no jumpshot.

AYozzy
06-07-2012, 11:16 PM
First player since Wilt with at least 45, 15 and 5

ChitownBears22
06-07-2012, 11:16 PM
Ah these reactionary threads are great.

Go back to your hole!

NBAFan2012
06-07-2012, 11:16 PM
I will say this, Lebron wins the game literally by himself with a monster performance, so when the Heat get eliminated how is it that he wont get the blame then? I dont get it.

ChitownBears22
06-07-2012, 11:17 PM
He doesnt. The Heat built up a 20 point lead. Like Skip Bayless said, Lebron is a great front runner. I give Lebron James credit though because he made the game out of reach to keep it from being one of those close games where he typically fails.

You must be on the verge of being a vegetable. The reason the game was out of reach was because LeBron hit everything. HE was the reason the game got out of hand. Why be a closer when you can just destroy a team.

Swashcuff
06-07-2012, 11:17 PM
He doesnt. The Heat built up a 20 point lead. Like Skip Bayless said, Lebron is a great front runner. I give Lebron James credit though because he made the game out of reach to keep it from being one of those close games where he typically fails.

:pity:

NBAFan2012
06-07-2012, 11:18 PM
Go back to your hole!

Grow up.

Teeboy1487
06-07-2012, 11:19 PM
I already respected Lebron James, but my opinion on him has been changed after tonight's game. What a performance in a crucial game. He is truly the MVP and the best player on the planet. Love him or hate him, you have to admire his game and his determination to win. What I saw in him tonight for the first time was the fire to win. If he can continue playing with that fire, he can win several championships.

NBAFan2012
06-07-2012, 11:19 PM
And yes I was one of those people that bashed him for his jumpshooting. If he does this next game I will be a believer. This is the FIRST TIME EVER he has been on fire from the perimeter. He took shots with confidence, fadeaways, mid range, threes...I mean if he scores like he did tonight more than ONCE he will win a title.

mzgrizz
06-07-2012, 11:20 PM
Give the man his due. Congrats to LBJ for a phenomenal game !

ChitownBears22
06-07-2012, 11:20 PM
Grow up.

I am grown enough. You are another blind hater. LeBron carried this team. Dominated all aspects of the game and put this game out of reach by the start of the 4th.

Sadds The Gr8
06-07-2012, 11:21 PM
He doesnt. The Heat built up a 20 point lead. Like Skip Bayless said, Lebron is a great front runner. I give Lebron James credit though because he made the game out of reach to keep it from being one of those close games where he typically fails.

:nod:

KB-Pau-DH2012
06-07-2012, 11:21 PM
I already respected Lebron James, but my opinion on him has been changed after tonight's game. What a performance in a crucial game. He is truly the MVP and the best player on the planet. Love him or hate him, you have to admire his game and his determination to win. What I saw in him tonight for the first time was the fire to win. If he can continue playing with that fire, he can win several championships.

Exactly. He showed that fire, that will that Magic, Larry, Michael and Kobe have done for years and years and years and years.

He wins a title this yr, I easily put him in the list with those greats.

3ballbomber
06-07-2012, 11:21 PM
one of the biggest Lebron critics............i give him props tonight. he won this on his own - he made sure it wasn't close. you know he hates close games lol.

well done!

ChitownBears22
06-07-2012, 11:22 PM
And yes I was one of those people that bashed him for his jumpshooting. If he does this next game I will be a believer. This is the FIRST TIME EVER he has been on fire from the perimeter. He took shots with confidence, fadeaways, mid range, threes...I mean if he scores like he did tonight more than ONCE he will win a title.

He doesn't need to prove **** to you. He just did something that hasn't been done in 15 years. He did it at a hostile environment and in a closeout game for Boston. How much pressure does he need on him to prove that he is a good player and a good shooter.

Master Mind
06-07-2012, 11:22 PM
I thought Rondo's game two was better.

That game went into OT but I respect your opinion...

ChitownBears22
06-07-2012, 11:23 PM
:nod:

I used to respect your opinion. Now I can tell you are as blind as everyone else on this board. Myself included.

If you think that LeBron wasn't the reason this game got out of hand you are a class a moron.

rickshaw
06-07-2012, 11:24 PM
He doesnt. The Heat built up a 20 point lead. Like Skip Bayless said, Lebron is a great front runner. I give Lebron James credit though because he made the game out of reach to keep it from being one of those close games where he typically fails.

Yeah. His numbers are terrible in close games, late in the 4th.

http://www.82games.com/1112/CSORT11.HTM

Oh wait.

*Superman*
06-07-2012, 11:25 PM
I'll give him his props, but the sig still stays ;)

:clap:

ChitownBears22
06-07-2012, 11:25 PM
Yeah. His numbers are terrible in close games, late in the 4th.

http://www.82games.com/1112/CSORT11.HTM

Oh wait.

ESPN perpetuates nonsense and these sheep believe them.

llemon
06-07-2012, 11:27 PM
Lebron is the best player in the NBA hands down.

Haters keep hating.

I will. Thanks for your permission.

JordansBulls
06-07-2012, 11:27 PM
Kinda surprised this happened, wasn't expecting this. Boston came out like ****.

ManRam
06-07-2012, 11:27 PM
Unbelievable.

The amount of "Jesus Christ" and "Oh my god" and "no ****ing way" and "hahahaha" I blurted out tonight was unreal. Amazing effort :clap:

Just fun to watch.

We can debate and whine and complain and fight and whatever all we want, but why can't we all just sit back and enjoy? That was FUN. If you didn't enjoy that, well, your emotions are ruining a hell of a lot of fun.

popo85
06-07-2012, 11:27 PM
Not to mention he held Pierce in check again who shot 4 for 18, MVP performance on both ends of the floor for James...

KB-Pau-DH2012
06-07-2012, 11:28 PM
I'll give him his props, but the sig still stays ;)

:clap:

Your sig. :laugh:

KB-Pau-DH2012
06-07-2012, 11:28 PM
Not to mention he held Pierce in check again who shot 4 for 18, MVP performance on both ends of the floor for James...

That and the fact that Pierce shows up for every other game and has a low IQ as well. Pierce is **** and worthless now.

MTL_123
06-07-2012, 11:28 PM
wat a game lebron just had i wish he got 50pts tho lol

Kuya_Clive
06-07-2012, 11:29 PM
this was the Lebron everyone wanted to see! He soned the Celtics tonight

Blitzbolt
06-07-2012, 11:30 PM
Thank you that's all I have to say great basketball game by Lebron.

MTL_123
06-07-2012, 11:32 PM
damn lebron just had a look like **** everyone im gonna show u why im the ****ing best player in the nba right now

blastmasta26
06-07-2012, 11:32 PM
Fantastic performance but Miami as a team needs to step it up a little and help him out more.

amos1er
06-07-2012, 11:33 PM
That and the fact that Pierce shows up for every other game and has a low IQ as well. Pierce is **** and worthless now.

Ya for sure Pierce's crap defense was one of the factors that let Lebron do that. I wouldn't credit Lebron for Pierces horrible night, in fact I would say the opposite...credit Pierce for playing crap defense and missing wide open shots all night. Not to take away anything from Lebron because he deserves his props. One of the best games I have ever seen from Lebron. He actually had a killer instinct look on his face tonight. Pierce was just awful. He was the worst player on the court tonight. At least they can count on Allen for technical free throws. Pierce was just a disaster. :facepalm:

theheatles
06-07-2012, 11:33 PM
he sucks bro, 5-9 from the line, he sucks

LA_Raiders
06-07-2012, 11:34 PM
no ring, no glory

MetroMan
06-07-2012, 11:34 PM
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Sadds The Gr8
06-07-2012, 11:36 PM
I used to respect your opinion. Now I can tell you are as blind as everyone else on this board. Myself included.

If you think that LeBron wasn't the reason this game got out of hand you are a class a moron.
funny, because I don't even know who the **** u are.

did I ****in say that? u need to read the quote I replied to again.

CHANGO
06-07-2012, 11:37 PM
What else he has to do?

But of course, we are going to continue criticizing his "mistakes", ignoring his triumphs and not seeing his greatness.

Today for the first time had nothing to do with Wade and the others, everything was Lebron. Lebron removed the Pride to the phrase "Celtics Pride", he removed the encouragement of that BIG green mass and he gave his team another chance.

W is for WITNESS!

knicks4life33
06-07-2012, 11:40 PM
I feel like all these great comments about lebron will change if they get eliminated saturday night but credit is due and lebron played a excellent game. To bad there wasn't a crunch time to see if he had all the marbles to go with it.

Rego247
06-07-2012, 11:41 PM
I used to respect your opinion. Now I can tell you are as blind as everyone else on this board. Myself included.

If you think that LeBron wasn't the reason this game got out of hand you are a class a moron.

:cry:

BigBlueCrew
06-07-2012, 11:41 PM
I think it is one of the greatest ever. Since 1986, NO player has ever had 45-15-5 in a playoff game. NO ONE. And to do it in a road playoff game facing elimination? Definitely one of the greatest performances in playoff history

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pgl_finder.cgi?request=1&player_id=&match=game&year_min=&year_max=&age_min=0&age_max=99&team_id=&opp_id=&is_playoffs=Y&round_is_ec1=Y&round_is_ecs=Y&round_is_ecf=Y&round_is_wc1=Y&round_is_wcs=Y&round_is_wcf=Y&round_is_fin=Y&game_num_type=team&game_num_min=&game_num_max=&game_month=&game_location=&game_result=&is_starter=&is_active=&is_hof=&pos_is_g=Y&pos_is_gf=Y&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_fg=Y&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&c1stat=pts&c1comp=gt&c1val=45&c2stat=trb&c2comp=gt&c2val=15&c3stat=ast&c3comp=gt&c3val=5&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&order_by=pts

Thats a pretty tight set of specs there for your query. No wonder nothing comes up.....

First of all congrats to Lebron for his performance.

I think it rivals Charles Barkley's performance in game 3 of the first round of the western conference playoffs 1994 56pts 14 rbs 4 assists

StinkEye
06-07-2012, 11:42 PM
That and the fact that Pierce shows up for every other game and has a low IQ as well. Pierce is **** and worthless now.

Pierce had some good performances earlier in the playoffs. It's amazing how LeBron can constantly put up such consistently great numbers on offence and completely shut down his opponents on the opposite end. He really is the best two-way player in the game, and probably the best 2-way player on the wing that we've seen in a long time.

amos1er
06-07-2012, 11:44 PM
I love how everyone ignores when I give Lebron props. And only attack me when I say anything against him. Obviously he played like a champion tonight and I will give credit when it is due. Similarly, I will nit pick when needed also. :D

gotoHcarolina52
06-07-2012, 11:46 PM
Fantastic performance but Miami as a team needs to step it up a little and help him out more.

1,000 times this

amos1er
06-07-2012, 11:47 PM
Pierce had some good performances earlier in the playoffs. It's amazing how LeBron can constantly put up such consistently great numbers on offence and completely shut down his opponents on the opposite end. He really is the best two-way player in the game, and probably the best 2-way player on the wing that we've seen in a long time.

I don't know how much credit I would give Lebron for Pierces horrible performance. lol Pierce chocked on his own. He missed a bunch of wide open shots and screwed up a lot of defensive sequences. As good as Lebron was, Pierce was equally as bad.

PraiseTheKing23
06-07-2012, 11:47 PM
Screw the haters, LeBron is one of the all time greats! It's not his fault he doesn't have a Championship, look who he had playing with him in Cleveland.

amos1er
06-07-2012, 11:50 PM
Screw the haters, LeBron is one of the all time greats! It's not his fault he doesn't have a Championship, look who he had playing with him in Cleveland.

And with that user name we can really take you seriously. lol He chocked in last years finals bro. Here are his career finals numbers...

19 ppg 6.9 apg 6.9 rpg 41% from the field.

Perhaps we can lay some of the blame on him for not having a ring yet. :rolleyes:

Don't even make me pull up his 4th quarter numbers from last years finals...they were the worst for a superstar in NBA finals history.

Teeboy1487
06-07-2012, 11:51 PM
Unbelievable.

The amount of "Jesus Christ" and "Oh my god" and "no ****ing way" and "hahahaha" I blurted out tonight was unreal. Amazing effort :clap:

Just fun to watch.

We can debate and whine and complain and fight and whatever all we want, but why can't we all just sit back and enjoy? That was FUN. If you didn't enjoy that, well, your emotions are ruining a hell of a lot of fun.

You should have heard my Dad. He's a huge Lebron fan. Also, Lebron had that look in his eye tonight that gave me chills and my team is not even facing him.

Teeboy1487
06-07-2012, 11:54 PM
That and the fact that Pierce shows up for every other game and has a low IQ as well. Pierce is **** and worthless now.

I hate Pierce. He thinks he is so good and thinks he is in the class of the likes of Lebron, Wade, Durant, Kobe, etc... He is garbage and has been garbage the whole series. He had the nerve to say to Lebron in Game 5, "you can't hold me". How about 4-18 in Game 6 at home Pierce. That's the truth.

amos1er
06-07-2012, 11:56 PM
You should have heard my Dad. He's a huge Lebron fan. Also, Lebron had that look in his eye tonight that gave me chills and my team is not even facing him.

Yup. I noticed that look too. First time I have seen him with it. I will say that he impressed even me tonight.

amos1er
06-07-2012, 11:57 PM
I hate Pierce. He thinks he is so good and thinks he is in the class of the likes of Lebron, Wade, Durant, Kobe, etc... He is garbage and has been garbage the whole series. He had the nerve to say to Lebron in Game 5, "you can't hold me". How about 4-18 in Game 6 at home Pierce. That's the truth.

Yup...Pierce was a joke tonight. If I were a Celtics fan I would want to run him out of town if they loose game 7.

Corndog
06-07-2012, 11:59 PM
Screw the haters, LeBron is one of the all time greats! It's not his fault he doesn't have a Championship, look who he had playing with him in Cleveland.

True, but he chose his path with the Heat. I still think he would have been better off with a more well rounded team. I just don't like or buy into the superstar team. I grew up with the Bulls and the one superstar teams of the 90s. I rooted for him with Cleveland, but I felt the move to Miami showed weakness and he didn't want to assume the responsibility of being the go to guy for his team. His passive aggressive comments after the playoff loss last year didn't help.

Still tonight made me remember why I originally liked the guy so much, he truely is an incredible all around player. He will go down in history as one of the all time greats, comparable to Wilt Chamberlain, a once in a generation player, but only one title. I still don't want the Heat to win, because their fans annoy me, but I do want Lebron to continue in this direction. Last year he seemed like he wanted someone else to pick up the slack and carry this team, but this year he is back to being the guy and playing his best basketball.

Swashcuff
06-07-2012, 11:59 PM
Yup...Pierce was a joke tonight. If I were a Celtics fan I would want to run him out of town if they loose game 7.

And that's because you're an ungrateful lame excuse for a sports fan

mdm692
06-08-2012, 12:01 AM
I have been bashing lebron but wow. Masterpiece!!!! Thing is can he do it in gm 7 cause these subpar performances by wade just aint going to cut it.

Teeboy1487
06-08-2012, 12:04 AM
Yup. I noticed that look too. First time I have seen him with it. I will say that he impressed even me tonight.

It was burning through the screen. Lebron went super saiyan tonight. I'm still :speechless:.

MrfadeawayJB
06-08-2012, 12:04 AM
I was hoping he would hit 50

PleaseBeNice
06-08-2012, 12:07 AM
Haters will still find a way to hate on this. Props to LeBron, best player in the league. Mad props

Hawkeye15
06-08-2012, 12:09 AM
I love how everyone ignores when I give Lebron props. And only attack me when I say anything against him. Obviously he played like a champion tonight and I will give credit when it is due. Similarly, I will nit pick when needed also. :D

Welcome to my world as a Kobe critic.

amos1er
06-08-2012, 12:13 AM
Welcome to my world as a Kobe critic.

Well no one seems to notice that I was one of the more vocal ones in the Lakers forum who complained about Kobe's horrible shot selection this season. I even started a thread about it. I am not by any means one of the fools who says trade Kobe...I do still feel that he has one more run left in him and that Mike Brown was a horrible coach for that team. Gasol and or Bynum need to go and so does Brown. He just could not control Kobe's ego. Even if Kobe didn't hog the ball so much this season, I still didn't think the Lakers could pass the second round.

amos1er
06-08-2012, 12:15 AM
It was burning through the screen. Lebron went super saiyan tonight. I'm still :speechless:.

lol Nice DBZ reference! I would say that he looked like Gohan when he fought cell. haha

http://www.google.com/imgres?q=gohan+ssj2&hl=en&sa=X&biw=800&bih=480&tbm=isch&prmd=imvns&tbnid=UfFruY105GlSVM:&imgrefurl=http://my.opera.com/ManoVegetto/albums/showpic.dml%3Falbum%3D5578272%26picture%3D84114162&docid=2RTbr0kYTg4ErM&imgurl=http://files.myopera.com/ManoVegetto/albums/5578272/gohan%252520teen%252520ssj2%252520by%252520mano%25 2520vegetto.jpg&w=959&h=578&ei=CX3RT6OkBuPi2QX76aiSDw&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=365&vpy=195&dur=67&hovh=174&hovw=289&tx=131&ty=81&sig=100116862241872269890&page=2&tbnh=115&tbnw=190&start=8&ndsp=13&ved=1t:429,r:7,s:8,i:190

amos1er
06-08-2012, 12:17 AM
And that's because you're an ungrateful lame excuse for a sports fan

No, Pierce was a lame excuse for a basketball player tonight and if he plays like that again in game 7 I would want him traded if I were a Celtics fan. Not saying that he will play bad again because I think he will show up. Just saying that his lack of effort was apparent and there is no excuse for that. A bad shooting night I can understand, but his effort was piss poor and it showed.

5ass
06-08-2012, 12:29 AM
All im going to say is miami vs okc is gonna be a hell of a series.

justinnum1
06-08-2012, 12:29 AM
But but but I thought LeBron doesn't play with heart and he doesn't have KDs killer instinct? :rolleyes:

He cant hit the last shot, so everything during the first 47 and a half minutes is meaningless.

shep33
06-08-2012, 12:29 AM
This game reminded me a lot of Kobe's 48 and 16 in Sacramento (Playoffs). Absolutely astounding game by Bron today, best player in the NBA no doubt.

llemon
06-08-2012, 12:34 AM
No, Pierce was a lame excuse for a basketball player tonight and if he plays like that again in game 7 I would want him traded if I were a Celtics fan. Not saying that he will play bad again because I think he will show up. Just saying that his lack of effort was apparent and there is no excuse for that. A bad shooting night I can understand, but his effort was piss poor and it showed.

Celtics were just really offtrack tonight.

DODGERS&LAKERS
06-08-2012, 12:39 AM
The way Lebron played tonight, gave me a semi. I'm not sure how I feel about a basketball player making me go half mast.

THE GIPPER
06-08-2012, 12:41 AM
All im going to say is miami vs okc is gonna be a hell of a series.

PSD is unbelievable. Last night Im reading comments from HEAT FANS (and non Heat fans) that the series is already over and about how Boston/OKC will be a good series. One night later and those same people still think the series is over.... Only the victor is different.

justinnum1
06-08-2012, 12:42 AM
The Lebron played tonight, gave me a semi. I'm not sure how I feel about a basketball player making me go half mast.

line of the night lol

stawka
06-08-2012, 12:45 AM
The series is not over. I hate this constant overreaction. Boston lost by 19 points, they WILL NOT lose by that much in game 7. I hope Miami wins, and I hope Miami wins BIG to get some more confidence, but I think it'll be a battle. This will be the last chance Boston has with this core IMO, and they will give it their all.

It's far from set in stone, Boston is poised and will make it a tough challenge.

That said, Go Miami, win this ****, rest up, stay focused and confident, get the title!

ChitownBears22
06-08-2012, 12:49 AM
PSD is unbelievable. Last night Im reading comments from HEAT FANS (and non Heat fans) that the series is already over and about how Boston/OKC will be a good series. One night later and those same people still think the series is over.... Only the victor is different.

I know plenty of HEAT fans on here that knew this series wasn't over. I am not saying Miami to the Finals, I am saying that game 7 will be great. And it will be nice to have Bosh in the starting lineup.

basketfan4life
06-08-2012, 12:49 AM
one word.

AMAZING.

naps
06-08-2012, 12:51 AM
2nd player in the history of playoffs to make a game of at least 45/15/5. Other one is ofcourse Wilt Chamberlain who did it once.

We are witnessing history in the making people. This guy is special. Appreciate his game before it's too late.

Rain City
06-08-2012, 12:52 AM
As impressed as i was with lebron i was equally unimpressed with the celts, but they'll respond!

Saturday cant come soon enough!

topdog
06-08-2012, 12:52 AM
Man, I missed what sounds like an awesome performance! I like seeing a scowl on Lebron's face rather than a smile - zone in and be unstoppable.

Rain City
06-08-2012, 12:55 AM
ive seen lebron play better, from a statistical and big stage stand point it may be his best game ever but watching it looked like it came easy, big reason bc celts were terrible

naps
06-08-2012, 12:55 AM
Question: When was the last time someone dominated a playoff game like this in the Boston Garden against one of the most hostile crowed? I know the GOAT once dropped 63 in 1986 or 87. There should be a few more in between 25 years. I would to know. Anyone?

ChitownBears22
06-08-2012, 12:57 AM
2nd player in the history of playoffs to make a game of at least 45/15/5. Other one is ofcourse Wilt Chamberlain who did it once.

We are witnessing history in the making people. This guy is special. Appreciate his game before it's too late.

Most people won't. Instead they will hate on him for everything and in 15 years when people are talking about him they won't remember what he was truly about. He is a dominant force in the NBA, a hard worker, a great person in his community, and someone who truly enjoys playing the game.

I hate seeing all this hate about him showboating and carrying on during a game. I understand it can be annoying, but in the end he is just another person enjoying what he does with people he enjoys around him.

Why hate.

JLynn943
06-08-2012, 12:57 AM
Incredible performance. Can't wait to see what happens in game 7.

naps
06-08-2012, 12:58 AM
I think it is one of the greatest ever. Since 1986, NO player has ever had 45-15-5 in a playoff game. NO ONE. And to do it in a road playoff game facing elimination? Definitely one of the greatest performances in playoff history

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pgl_finder.cgi?request=1&player_id=&match=game&year_min=&year_max=&age_min=0&age_max=99&team_id=&opp_id=&is_playoffs=Y&round_is_ec1=Y&round_is_ecs=Y&round_is_ecf=Y&round_is_wc1=Y&round_is_wcs=Y&round_is_wcf=Y&round_is_fin=Y&game_num_type=team&game_num_min=&game_num_max=&game_month=&game_location=&game_result=&is_starter=&is_active=&is_hof=&pos_is_g=Y&pos_is_gf=Y&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_fg=Y&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&c1stat=pts&c1comp=gt&c1val=45&c2stat=trb&c2comp=gt&c2val=15&c3stat=ast&c3comp=gt&c3val=5&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&order_by=pts

Wilt had once. I just heard on ESPN from Rick Kamla and Robert Horry.

ztilzer31
06-08-2012, 01:00 AM
Amazing game, from an amazing dude. The hate for Lebron is ridiculous. People need to start recognizing the BEST BASKETBALL PLAYER TO EVER PLAY THIS GAME. Better then Jordan. There I said it. LBJ is a better all around player then Jordan.

naps
06-08-2012, 01:00 AM
Interesting note: Boston hasn't won a game 7 on the road since 1974. WoW!

Does that sound shocking to anyone? They had a dynasty in the 80's and you would think it happened at least a couple of times.

ChitownBears22
06-08-2012, 01:00 AM
ive seen lebron play better, from a statistical and big stage stand point it may be his best game ever but watching it looked like it came easy, big reason bc celts were terrible

When? Closeout game for Boston. At a hostile Boston. Media constantly up his butt about not being a closer, or having heart, or have the "it" factor of a champion.

He comes out and hits the shots "he can't make", shuts down a top tier shooter in the NBA, grabs every rebound in his vicinity, dominates the paint, and blows out a team when his #2 was nowhere to be found until all the pressure was gone from the game.

This was LeBron at his finest. He left it out there on the court and showed that he truly is elite. While he doesn't have the rings yet, he has showed that he has what it takes. Can the rest of the team jump on his shoulders and go for the ride.

ChitownBears22
06-08-2012, 01:03 AM
Amazing game, from an amazing dude. The hate for Lebron is ridiculous. People need to start recognizing the BEST BASKETBALL PLAYER TO EVER PLAY THIS GAME. Better then Jordan. There I said it. LBJ is a better all around player then Jordan.

Don't be crazy. And don't compare apples and oranges. LeBron is great, but it is in an entirely different capacity then Jordan. Jordan was someone who naturally went out every night and won games. LeBron doesn't have that killer instinct but he does have the desire to win. Which I think is just as important.

gotoHcarolina52
06-08-2012, 01:12 AM
@ESPNChrisPalmer

LeBron has the highest career avg in elimination games with 31.4.

No. 2: Jordan 31.3.

ztilzer31
06-08-2012, 01:17 AM
Lebron is a better defender, distributor, and rebounder then Jordan. Jordan was a better scorer, with better players around him. No player in the history of the game has done as much as Lebron has from both ends of the floor. It's not even close.

naps
06-08-2012, 01:22 AM
Lebron is a better defender, distributor, and rebounder then Jordan. Jordan was a better scorer, with better players around him. No player in the history of the game has done as much as Lebron has from both ends of the floor. It's not even close.

I see what you are trying to do here. First good thread about LeBron in 2 years and you are trying to ruin it. LeBron isn't better than Jordan. Shut up.

Becks2307
06-08-2012, 01:23 AM
Lebron is a better defender, distributor, and rebounder then Jordan. Jordan was a better scorer, with better players around him. No player in the history of the game has done as much as Lebron has from both ends of the floor. It's not even close.


Jordan elevated those players dude. And Idk about Lebron being a better defender than MJ.

Jordan's will to win and his sheer dominance completely dwarfs any apparent physical gifts Lebron may have over him. Unless this season starts the Lebron Dynasty(which could totally happen) he won't surpass Jordan.

stawka
06-08-2012, 01:32 AM
Win the ****ing series and worry about the Finals!

amos1er
06-08-2012, 01:42 AM
This is exactly the crap I hate. Lebron is not close to MJ...Just stop people. One good game and people overrate him tremendously. Let him win 4 rings before we even compare them. Even with 4 rings I wouldn't even put Lebron in the conversation because he had more help than MJ with Wade and Bosh. Jordan never had that kind of help and he did more. Here are Lebron's averages in the finals so far...

19 ppg 6.9 apg 6.9 rpg on 41% field goals

0/2 in winning

Jordan was 6/6 in the finals with less help than Lebron. This is exactly why I am always against Lebron on here...because his fans are myopic fools.

LongIslandIcedZ
06-08-2012, 01:45 AM
That was a really good game.

ChitownBears22
06-08-2012, 01:47 AM
Less help than Jordan? Are you drunk? I am aware LeBron is not Jordan. I don't compare the two. But to say LeBron had more help than Jordan is dumb. Jordan had Pippen, Rodman, Kerr, Kukoc, Cartwright, Grant, ect.

LeBron had Anderson Varejo(sp?), Daniel Gibson, Antawn Jamison, Jason Richardson, and 40 year old Shaq.

You sir have lost all credibility to anyone on PSD.

naps
06-08-2012, 01:52 AM
This is exactly the crap I hate. Lebron is not close to MJ...Just stop people.

Not people. Only one guy who's most likely a LeBron troll is trying to ruin this thread because he knew people like you would use his post as fuel to ruin the thread.

naps
06-08-2012, 01:53 AM
Less help than Jordan? Are you drunk? I am aware LeBron is not Jordan. I don't compare the two. But to say LeBron had more help than Jordan is dumb. Jordan had Pippen, Rodman, Kerr, Kukoc, Cartwright, Grant, ect.

LeBron had Anderson Varejo(sp?), Daniel Gibson, Antawn Jamison, Jason Richardson, and 40 year old Shaq.

You sir have lost all credibility to anyone on PSD.

C'mon man!

Don't you do that. You haven't seen his posts before?

Don't let him take it off-topic with ridiculous claims and thus eventually destroy this thread.

Sadds The Gr8
06-08-2012, 01:53 AM
if he was consistent with this kind of aggressiveness....omg...

amos1er
06-08-2012, 01:54 AM
Less help than Jordan? Are you drunk? I am aware LeBron is not Jordan. I don't compare the two. But to say LeBron had more help than Jordan is dumb. Jordan had Pippen, Rodman, Kerr, Kukoc, Cartwright, Grant, ect.

LeBron had Anderson Varejo(sp?), Daniel Gibson, Antawn Jamison, Jason Richardson, and 40 year old Shaq.

You sir have lost all credibility to anyone on PSD.

Obviously I'm not talking about is Cavs teams genius. I'm talking about Wade and Bosh.

ChitownBears22
06-08-2012, 01:56 AM
Obviously I'm not talking about is Cavs teams genius. I'm talking about Wade and Bosh.

You think Wade is better than Pippen and Bosh is better than Rodman. Then you sir are an even bigger fool than I thought.

Please watch ESPN classic and then reform your opinion. Because yours right now must be based on absolutely nothing.

amos1er
06-08-2012, 01:56 AM
C'mon man!

Don't you do that. You haven't seen his posts before?

Don't let him take it off-topic with ridiculous claims and thus eventually destroy this thread.

What ridiculous claims??? I said that Lebron does not deserve to be in the same conversation with Jordan...How is that ridiculous? Also, Jordan never had teammates as good as Wade and Bosh. If Jordan had Wade and Bosh he would have swept Dallas. I gave Lebron his props for tonights game and he deserves them because he played with a killer instinct. What he does not deserve is to be compared to Jordan.

amos1er
06-08-2012, 01:58 AM
Not people. Only one guy who's most likely a LeBron troll is trying to ruin this thread because he knew people like you would use his post as fuel to ruin the thread.

He probly really believes that Bron is that good...I just had to silence him. It's insulting to mention him in the same sentence as Jordan just like it is insulting to compare Kobe to Jordan. Jordan is as far above Kobe as Kobe is above Lebron.

ChitownBears22
06-08-2012, 02:01 AM
I said in my post that LeBron is not Jordan. I don't compare them.

I am saying that LeBron has been dominant like Jordan was, but he has had less talent. Career wise.

amos1er
06-08-2012, 02:03 AM
You think Wade is better than Pippen and Bosh is better than Rodman. Then you sir are an even bigger fool than I thought.

Please watch ESPN classic and then reform your opinion. Because yours right now must be based on absolutely nothing.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

You actually think that Pippen is better than Wade. HAHAHAHAHAHA You deserve to be suspended from the forums. HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
Lets bet 1,000,000 dollars that when all is said and done that Pippen is ranked higher than Wade. Pippen is currently a top 50 player and will not be in the next 20 years. Wade will be ranked a top 50 player when he retires and will be a top 50 player for the next 50 years at least. Wade = 1 finals MVP....That alone puts him ahead of Scottie. As for Rodman being better than Bosh. Not as much laughter, but still an outlandish claim none the less. Rodman is the better rebounder, but Bosh is ranked a top 15 player in this league whereas Rodman was never ranked a top 20 player in the league and never was the star player of his team. Rodman was a roleplayer and Bosh is an all-star. Jordan never played on a team as good as the Heat bro. I think that any basketball great would laugh their *** off if you made this claim to them.

amos1er
06-08-2012, 02:08 AM
I said in my post that LeBron is not Jordan. I don't compare them.

I am saying that LeBron has been dominant like Jordan was, but he has had less talent. Career wise.

Jordan...career achievements:

2 Olympic Gold Medals 1984, 1992
6 NBA Champion
6 NBA Finals MVP
5 NBA MVP
10 NBA Scoring Titles
3 steals leader
3 minutes leader
14 NBA All-Star Selections
3 NBA All-Star Game MVP
11 All-NBA Selections
9 All-Defensive First Team Selections
2 NBA Slam Dunk Contest Champion 1987, 1988
NBA Rookie of the Year 198485
NBA Defensive Player of the Year 198788
NCAA National Championship University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill: 198182
ACC Freshman of the Year 198182
2 Consensus NCAA All-American First Team 198283, 198384
ACC Men's Basketball Player of the Year 198384
USBWA College Player of the Year 198384
Naismith College Player of the Year 198384
John R. Wooden Award 198384
Adolph Rupp Trophy 198384
Sports Illustrated Sportsman of the Year 1991
Named one of the 50 Greatest Players in NBA History in 1996
Ranked No.1 by SLAM Magazine's Top 50 Players of All-Time
Ranked No.1 by ESPN Sportscentury's Top 100 Athletes of the 20th century
Elected to North Carolina Sports Hall of Fame

Lets just put this one to rest...

ChitownBears22
06-08-2012, 02:09 AM
Let's take it to a poll. We can ask PSD which team was better. The 97/98 Bulls or the 11/12 HEAT. After 5 days the loser gets banned.

ChitownBears22
06-08-2012, 02:10 AM
Jordan...career achievements:

2 Olympic Gold Medals 1984, 1992
6 NBA Champion
6 NBA Finals MVP
5 NBA MVP
10 NBA Scoring Titles
3 steals leader
3 minutes leader
14 NBA All-Star Selections
3 NBA All-Star Game MVP
11 All-NBA Selections
9 All-Defensive First Team Selections
2 NBA Slam Dunk Contest Champion 1987, 1988
NBA Rookie of the Year 198485
NBA Defensive Player of the Year 198788
NCAA National Championship University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill: 198182
ACC Freshman of the Year 198182
2 Consensus NCAA All-American First Team 198283, 198384
ACC Men's Basketball Player of the Year 198384
USBWA College Player of the Year 198384
Naismith College Player of the Year 198384
John R. Wooden Award 198384
Adolph Rupp Trophy 198384
Sports Illustrated Sportsman of the Year 1991
Named one of the 50 Greatest Players in NBA History in 1996
Ranked No.1 by SLAM Magazine's Top 50 Players of All-Time
Ranked No.1 by ESPN Sportscentury's Top 100 Athletes of the 20th century
Elected to North Carolina Sports Hall of Fame

Lets just put this one to rest...

I really can't tell if you are illiterate. I said they are not equals. I don't compare them. I don't see them as the same type of player. How else would you like it worded.

For some reason children are allowed to stay up later than I was when I was a kid.

amos1er
06-08-2012, 02:20 AM
Let's take it to a poll. We can ask PSD which team was better. The 97/98 Bulls or the 11/12 HEAT. After 5 days the loser gets banned.

4 expansion teams in the league in the 97/98 season.

Why don't we make a poll asking who had more help between Lebron and Jordan?

Why does it have to be the 97/98 team? Why not the 91 Bulls?

The only reason that the 98 Bulls were that good was because Jordan made them that good, so the question is not fair. Of course the 98 Bulls would win because they had Jordan. Why not ask if you switched Lebron in place of Jordan in the 98 season if they do as well or even win a title. Why not ask if Jordan was on the 2011 Heat team would they have lost to Dallas. I got it, lets make a poll asking if Jordan was in place of Lebron on the 2011 Heat if they win it all or not. I'll take that bet for sure.

llemon
06-08-2012, 02:20 AM
Horace Grant was better than Chris Bosh is.

naps
06-08-2012, 02:20 AM
What ridiculous claims??? I said that Lebron does not deserve to be in the same conversation with Jordan...How is that ridiculous? Also, Jordan never had teammates as good as Wade and Bosh. If Jordan had Wade and Bosh he would have swept Dallas. I gave Lebron his props for tonights game and he deserves them because he played with a killer instinct. What he does not deserve is to be compared to Jordan.

No. No one in the history is better than Jordan. Period.

But if you say LeBron has better teams than Jordan then you have no knowledge whatsoever. I agree that Wade could be better than Pippen but that's about it. Miami is a three man team and is absolutely incomplete. Jordan's teams were as complete as any teams there have been. You are probably too young so I would recommend you to do some research yourself.


And now please, don't ruin this thread anymore. You didn't have to bring in Jordan's accomplishments here because we all know this. Just like I predicted you are using that troll's post as fuel to take it off-topic and bring in hate. Very immature.

amos1er
06-08-2012, 02:22 AM
I really can't tell if you are illiterate. I said they are not equals. I don't compare them. I don't see them as the same type of player. How else would you like it worded.

For some reason children are allowed to stay up later than I was when I was a kid.

lol Its funny how when people are starting to loose an argument they always revert to ad hominem insults. lol

And you're calling me the child. :rolleyes:

How about we start a poll asking who is better between Pippen and Wade because a moment ago you just said that Pippen was better. I'll take that bet too.

ChitownBears22
06-08-2012, 02:23 AM
No. No one in the history is better than Jordan. Period.

But if you say LeBron has better teams than Jordan then you have no knowledge whatsoever. I agree that Wade could be better than Pippen but that's about it. Miami is a three man team and is absolutely incomplete. Jordan's teams were as complete as any teams there have been. You are probably too young so I would recommend you to do some research yourself.


And now please, don't ruin this thread anymore. You didn't have to bring in Jordan's accomplishments here because we all know this. Just like I predicted you are using that troll's post as fuel to take it off-topic and bring in hate. Very immature.

Are you calling me a troll?

amos1er
06-08-2012, 02:25 AM
No. No one in the history is better than Jordan. Period.

But if you say LeBron has better teams than Jordan then you have no knowledge whatsoever. I agree that Wade could be better than Pippen but that's about it. Miami is a three man team and is absolutely incomplete. Jordan's teams were as complete as any teams there have been. You are probably too young so I would recommend you to do some research yourself.


And now please, don't ruin this thread anymore. You didn't have to bring in Jordan's accomplishments here because we all know this. Just like I predicted you are using that troll's post as fuel to take it off-topic and bring in hate. Very immature.

They were complete because Jordan made them complete. Put Lebron on those Bulls teams and no way they win six rings. I would be surprised if they won more than one ring really. Put Jordan on the Heat last year and they win it all. BTW I am surely older than you and calling me a kid only proves your ineptness at debating. Nothing but an ad hominem insult that proves nothing. Lets start a poll asking people who had the better supporting cast. I'm just curious myself.

ChitownBears22
06-08-2012, 02:27 AM
http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?t=727323

Let PSD decide. You agree to a ban when you are wrong correct.

ChitownBears22
06-08-2012, 02:28 AM
lol Its funny how when people are starting to loose an argument they always revert to ad hominem insults. lol

And you're calling me the child. :rolleyes:

How about we start a poll asking who is better between Pippen and Wade because a moment ago you just said that Pippen was better. I'll take that bet too.

The Pippen Jordan played with is better than the Wade Lebron is playing with at this moment. If you want to compare talent of those around someone then have it be the years they played together.

naps
06-08-2012, 02:29 AM
Are you calling me a troll?

No, the guy who claimed LeBron is better than Jordan.

llemon
06-08-2012, 02:29 AM
lol Its funny how when people are starting to loose an argument they always revert to ad hominem insults. lol

And you're calling me the child. :rolleyes:

How about we start a poll asking who is better between Pippen and Wade because a moment ago you just said that Pippen was better. I'll take that bet too.

Do you think a poll actually determines anything.

ChitownBears22
06-08-2012, 02:30 AM
No, the guy who claimed LeBron is better than Jordan.

Oh ok. I was about to say. I like LeBron but in no way would I ever put him in comparison with Jordan.

A. It is apples and oranges.
B. Completely different league.

amos1er
06-08-2012, 02:31 AM
Do you think a poll actually determines anything.

I'm not the one who suggested it.

ChitownBears22
06-08-2012, 02:32 AM
I worded the poll oddly too. Hopefully people read the post before voting.

amos1er
06-08-2012, 02:32 AM
Oh ok. I was about to say. I like LeBron but in no way would I ever put him in comparison with Jordan.

A. It is apples and oranges.
B. Completely different league.

Ya, Jordan is much better. Its an insult to Jordan to mention him in the same sentence as Lebron.

naps
06-08-2012, 02:33 AM
They were complete because Jordan made them complete. Put Lebron on those Bulls teams and no way they win six rings. I would be surprised if they won more than one ring really. Put Jordan on the Heat last year and they win it all. BTW I am surely older than you and calling me a kid only proves your ineptness at debating. Nothing but an ad hominem insult that proves nothing. Lets start a poll asking people who had the better supporting cast. I'm just curious myself.

You are pathetic. You cant the fact that PSD is having a good thread about LeBron. Yes you have no knowledge about NBA history pre-2000. Make a thread yourself and let more people educate you.

amos1er
06-08-2012, 02:33 AM
The Pippen Jordan played with is better than the Wade Lebron is playing with at this moment. If you want to compare talent of those around someone then have it be the years they played together.

:laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2:

Like I said...I'll agree to a poll that asks if Pippen was better than the Wade Lebron is playing with at the moment.

amos1er
06-08-2012, 02:34 AM
You are pathetic. You cant the fact that PSD is having a good thread about LeBron. Yes you have no knowledge about NBA history pre-2000. Make a thread yourself and let more people educate you.

I am 30 years old bro. I have been watching the NBA since the Magic days. lol

I wasn't the one who wanted to start a poll. I was just trying to prove a point. In fact the other guy actually started one.

ChitownBears22
06-08-2012, 02:34 AM
You never watched Pippen play did you? His stats weren't out of this world, but the guy didn't make mistakes, took high % shots, and always showed up.

amos1er
06-08-2012, 02:36 AM
You never watched Pippen play did you? His stats weren't out of this world, but the guy didn't make mistakes, took high % shots, and always showed up.

Come on then...put your money where your mouth is. Start a poll asking who's better...

ChitownBears22
06-08-2012, 02:38 AM
Pippen or Wade. How would you like it worded? Obviously you are going to need it worded in a way to sway votes to you.

amos1er
06-08-2012, 02:40 AM
Pippen or Wade. How would you like it worded? Obviously you are going to need it worded in a way to sway votes to you.

Word it anyway you want bro. lol

YoungOne
06-08-2012, 03:03 AM
the huge gap between pierce and lebron was the difference in the game.

5ass
06-08-2012, 03:13 AM
PSD is unbelievable. Last night Im reading comments from HEAT FANS (and non Heat fans) that the series is already over and about how Boston/OKC will be a good series. One night later and those same people still think the series is over.... Only the victor is different.

It doesnt matter, u cant group me with the whole of Psd lol. To tell u the truth i was expecting a miami vs okc finals before the season started.

KB-Pau-DH2012
06-08-2012, 03:33 AM
It doesnt matter, u cant group me with the whole of Psd lol. To tell u the truth i was expecting a miami vs okc finals before the season started.

Your sig :laugh:

IIISSKiLL
06-08-2012, 04:00 AM
Not for nothing but I rather have Rodman, Wade, and Lebron thats just my opinion... Idk how much Bosh really brings to the table when you speak of the help Lebron is having for this seasons playoff run

LakersIn5
06-08-2012, 04:00 AM
the heat winning is tough for me because i hate the heat and dwyane wade but i want lebron to win a championship to shut up his haters. and this is LEBRONS TEAM! just because wade came to miami first mean its his team. lebron is the superior player. it was just a coincidence that miami was the team that had the capspace to sign the big 3. the big 3 teaming up was already planned. had ny had the salary cap they would have signed the big 3, had cleveland had the salary cap instead of miami they would have the big 3. had toronto had the money they would have the big 3. its just that miami had the money.

heat vs. thunder in the finals with the heat winning and lebron finals mvp.

OutOfTHEBLUE
06-08-2012, 04:12 AM
What an incredible game for LeBron...that was simply spectacular.

As a Lakers fan I have to admit to being torn. On the one hand I tend to have more respect for the Celtics than I do the Heat (just my own personal opinons), however I can not ever root for the C's.

I hope LeBron keeps it up in Game 7. :)


Nope, Kobe could never be this efficient.

Completely untrue...

Kobe's Game 4 2001 Western Conference Semi-Finals:

48 MIN
15-29 FG
1-1 3PT
17-19 FTs

48 PTS, 16 REB, 3 ASTs/2 TO, 2 STL, 1 BLK

naps
06-08-2012, 04:50 AM
the heat winning is tough for me because i hate the heat and dwyane wade but i want lebron to win a championship to shut up his haters. and this is LEBRONS TEAM! just because wade came to miami first mean its his team. lebron is the superior player. it was just a coincidence that miami was the team that had the capspace to sign the big 3. the big 3 teaming up was already planned. had ny had the salary cap they would have signed the big 3, had cleveland had the salary cap instead of miami they would have the big 3. had toronto had the money they would have the big 3. its just that miami had the money.


Clearly, this has a lot to do with tonight's game.


And, no it couldn't happen everywhere. Wade said he would never go to Cleveland or any cold city. Neither of those teams had Wade, Riley, Micky Arison, South Beach, etc the reasons why LeBron or Bosh picked the Heat.

KB-Pau-DH2012
06-08-2012, 04:55 AM
What an incredible game for LeBron...that was simply spectacular.

As a Lakers fan I have to admit to being torn. On the one hand I tend to have more respect for the Celtics than I do the Heat (just my own personal opinons), however I can not ever root for the C's.

I hope LeBron keeps it up in Game 7. :)



Completely untrue...

Kobe's Game 4 2001 Western Conference Semi-Finals:

48 MIN
15-29 FG
1-1 3PT
17-19 FTs

48 PTS, 16 REB, 3 ASTs/2 TO, 2 STL, 1 BLK


And to followup that performance, his next playoff game, which was game 1 @ SAS of the 2001 WCF against the Juggernaut Defensive Spurs who had homecourt advantage.

47 MIN
19-35 FG
1-2 3PT
6-8 FTs

45 PTS, 10 REB, 3 ASTs/4 TO, 1 STL, 1 BLK

stawka
06-08-2012, 05:24 AM
Not to be a smartass or start any sort of Kobe vs LeBron thread, but guys, LeBron was 19/26FG tonight.

19/26 is A LOT better than 19/35 and 15/29.

Again, not discrediting Kobe AT ALL, because what he did was phenomenal in two consecutive games, but this was some unreal efficiency.

AndyfromNeptune
06-08-2012, 05:40 AM
I don't think anyone ever doubted that Lebron was the most productive performer in the NBA. He was the most valuable member to his team this year.

I expect him to have performances similar to this all the time (obviously less efficiency and less rebounding) but I'm waiting for his "Jordan" or "Kobe" moment in the clutch in Game 7...that's the Lebron that will eventually win a championship.



With that being said, I expect the Celtics to win game 7.

stawka
06-08-2012, 05:46 AM
Players react to LeBron's night on Twitter: http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/miamiheat/post/_/id/14708/players-react-on-twitter-to-lebrons-game-6

My favorites were:
"I've never seen Lebron w/ that type of Facial Expression since the game started....." By Brandon Jennings
"LeBron going for 90" By Jarrett Jack haha
"Ok now he's getting disrespectful" By Flynn
"What will they say bad about bron tomorrow!!!!" by Speights

Funny ****

Dade County
06-08-2012, 05:49 AM
the heat winning is tough for me because i hate the heat and dwyane wade but i want lebron to win a championship to shut up his haters. and this is LEBRONS TEAM! just because wade came to miami first mean its his team. lebron is the superior player. it was just a coincidence that miami was the team that had the capspace to sign the big 3. the big 3 teaming up was already planned. had ny had the salary cap they would have signed the big 3, had cleveland had the salary cap instead of miami they would have the big 3. had toronto had the money they would have the big 3. its just that miami had the money.

heat vs. thunder in the finals with the heat winning and lebron finals mvp.


WHAT:confused: toronto??? cleveland:facepalm: Insanity

Let me know when the next time a Super Star player in free agency, signs to one of these teams.

Only time those teams have super stars is if they draft them or trade for them... True story.

No disrespect to fans of those teams.



Clearly, this has a lot to do with tonight's game.


And, no it couldn't happen everywhere. Wade said he would never go to Cleveland or any cold city. Neither of those teams had Wade, Riley, Micky Arison, South Beach, etc the reasons why LeBron or Bosh picked the Heat.

Thank you.

But I cloud have seen Wade and bosh going to the bulls if they wanted too.

tapajafri
06-08-2012, 06:08 AM
Ya, Jordan is much better. Its an insult to Jordan to mention him in the same sentence as Lebron.

i think lebron is a better all around player than jordan in terms of skill sets. For example, Jordan couldn't play all 5 positions or guard all 5 positions like Lebron. Jordan couldn't go out and drop 50 points while dishing 10 assists or grab double digit rebounds. Of course, Jordan's legacy is obviously far greater. But in terms of a better player, I'd take Lebron in his prime over Jordan in his prime.

Ebbs
06-08-2012, 06:28 AM
Im so ****ing pissed I worked during it I saw like 3 minutes of the actual game when I had time.

I ****ing love LeBron

AndyfromNeptune
06-08-2012, 06:32 AM
i think lebron is a better all around player than jordan in terms of skill sets. For example, Jordan couldn't play all 5 positions or guard all 5 positions like Lebron. Jordan couldn't go out and drop 50 points while dishing 10 assists or grab double digit rebounds. Of course, Jordan's legacy is obviously far greater. But in terms of a better player, I'd take Lebron in his prime over Jordan in his prime.

Lebron is one of the most talented players to play this game in history. Even more talented than perhaps Magic Johnson.

However, Michael Jordan maximized his skill set more than any player in history.

And up until now, that has been the difference in their legacies.

6 championships vs 0 championships

Underdogz∞
06-08-2012, 06:36 AM
45pts (19-26 FG, 5-9 FT)
15reb
5ast/4to

Nearly half his team's points tonight.

The most impressive part about his performance?

His will to keep his team's season alive.

You could see it in his body language.

:clap: Yes I dont need to read any further this ^^^^ AND his FG pct 73% :speechless:

I admit I blame Lebron alot for Heat losses it comes with the territory when you are so capable like he is. And its not that he doesn't score 30 and 10 on a regular basis. It was as you said his will to win the way he scored and when he scored that would lead me to criticize him.

I was so mad at Lebron after the game 5 loss. I was ready to say we shoud trade him and get some more players around Wade.

After this performance Lebron has earned my unconditional respect,
NEVER AGAIN, NEVER AGAIN, will I ever criticize Lebron's heart, talent, and most importanty his will to win. That performance was amazing!

QueensG
06-08-2012, 06:49 AM
it was honestly a privilage to watch that masterful performance last night. wow is all I have to say and give credit where credit is due.This coming from a lebron hater but as a basketball fan you have to love what we saw last night.

Dude was in the "zone" . that's actually the lebron I always wanted to see. If he played with that same demeanor everyday he would be SCARY good and I would actually be a fan of his. Props to him for playing like this with all the pressure he deals with.

Bron single handidly shut down Boston in Boston. he had a higher point total then the big 3 and more rebounds. we witnessed greatness Last nights.

AndyfromNeptune
06-08-2012, 06:56 AM
it was honestly a privilage to watch that masterful performance last night. wow is all I have to say and give credit where credit is due.This coming from a lebron hater but as a basketball fan you have to love what we saw last night.

Dude was in the "zone" . that's actually the lebron I always wanted to see. If he played with that same demeanor everyday he would be SCARY good and I would actually be a fan of his. Props to him for playing like this with all the pressure he deals with.

Bron single handidly shut down Boston in Boston. he had a higher point total then the big 3 and more rebounds. we witnessed greatness Last nights.


This. A "classic" playoff performance. But..can we witness it again when the pressure returns in Game 7?

Only time will tell.

ReBirthofNumber81
06-08-2012, 07:14 AM
AKRON'S HOMETOWN HERO!!! 330 baby!!!!!!

Ill21
06-08-2012, 07:53 AM
Most impressive performance of the playoffs.

torocan
06-08-2012, 08:14 AM
Lebron was averaging 30 in the series BEFORE game 6. There was never a question of him being a great player.

He had a great game tonight, but Miami was up 13 starting the 4th, and up 20 with 8 minutes left.

This still tells us NOTHING about whether Lebron has shaken his mental demons in the 4th quarter/close games.

Yes, Lebron carried his team in that game. The rest of Miami shot poorly for the most part.

However...

Boston shot themselves OUT of the game. Garnett/Pierce/Rondo couldn't make a bucket to save their lives. Open jumpers, point blank layups, floaters, open 3's, even FT's ... nothing they shot was going in. It's not like they didn't have their chances, they just couldn't make a bucket and it was NOT the Miami Defense making them miss.

They were just missing.

So, great game by Lebron, but it still doesn't tell us anything about the number 1 complaint... that he's the #1 player in the world for 40/48 minutes.

And oh yah, another no show by Wade... 1/6 in the first half. :facepalm:

khaleesi
06-08-2012, 08:16 AM
When Nowitzi went for 48 on OKC last year with 6 Reb, 6 Assists and 4 Blocks on 12-15 shooting and 24-24 from the FT line, I did not hear people hyper ventilate about the greatest playoff performance since Wilt.

Great night but the nut huggers got to get a grip and take LBJ's thing out of their mouths. One great night. Good for LBJ. Stop the hyperbole as if this is rarely done.

khaleesi
06-08-2012, 08:18 AM
Nowitzki went for 40 Game 4. on 12-20 shooting. Point is great playoff performances are expected for players of this caliber but it is not Jordan's 63 versus the 1986 Celtics or Magic 40 playing Center to win a title.

Great performance by LBJ but respect history a little.

khaleesi
06-08-2012, 08:24 AM
it was honestly a privilage to watch that masterful performance last night. wow is all I have to say and give credit where credit is due.This coming from a lebron hater but as a basketball fan you have to love what we saw last night.

Dude was in the "zone" . that's actually the lebron I always wanted to see. If he played with that same demeanor everyday he would be SCARY good and I would actually be a fan of his. Props to him for playing like this with all the pressure he deals with.

Bron single handidly shut down Boston in Boston. he had a higher point total then the big 3 and more rebounds. we witnessed greatness Last nights.

1) Huh?

2) No he did not.

3) Yes.

bucketss
06-08-2012, 08:25 AM
When Nowitzi went for 48 on OKC last year with 6 Reb, 6 Assists and 4 Blocks on 12-15 shooting and 24-24 from the FT line, I did not hear people hyper ventilate about the greatest playoff performance since Wilt.

Great night but the nut huggers got to get a grip and take LBJ's thing out of their mouths. One great night. Good for LBJ. Stop the hyperbole as if this is rarely done.

when 95% of the world hates lebron why do you mind so much that 5% dickride him?

BklynKnicks3
06-08-2012, 08:27 AM
I would never give this coward credit while wade is on the court with him. If wade got hurt and he did it then it would be legit. I dont know how someone can watch basketball for more then 5 years and approve of these cowards teaming up and destroying basketball. I much rather see them going at it like real man and stars. 2 clowns with the other dinasour face clown who said on record he would not be a 2nd option on a team as a free agent. So now he role player congrads

khaleesi
06-08-2012, 09:10 AM
when 95% of the world hates lebron why do you mind so much that 5% dickride him?

Honesty, finally.

mdlr52192
06-08-2012, 09:14 AM
The best part was that I think he had 41 after the 3rd...this game was ****ing ridiculous

BKLYNpigeon
06-08-2012, 09:14 AM
Who cares, at the end of the day, all they remember is how many rings you have.

too bad the one thing they will always remember about Lebron is the Decision.

wmudford
06-08-2012, 09:17 AM
I'll go with the guy who wins the game early as opposed to the guy who puts you in a situation where you have to win late

dh144498
06-08-2012, 09:24 AM
If this game was closer LeBron could have dropped 55+on you guys. Rondo's game was good but not this good. LeBron carried his team like only a player of his calibre can.

I doubt it. Lebron is a three quarter player. Last night's game didn't prove that he was a closer.

Big Zo
06-08-2012, 09:40 AM
I would never give this coward credit while wade is on the court with him. If wade got hurt and he did it then it would be legit. I dont know how someone can watch basketball for more then 5 years and approve of these cowards teaming up and destroying basketball. I much rather see them going at it like real man and stars. 2 clowns with the other dinasour face clown who said on record he would not be a 2nd option on a team as a free agent. So now he role player congrads

So that means Magic wasn't legit because he had Kareem and Worthy. Bird wasn't legit because he had Parish and Mchale. Jordan wasn't legit because he had Pippen and later Rodman. You see where your logic is stupid?

Btw, I bet you were one of those Knicks fans that was wearing a LeBron jersey when the Cavs played the Knicks.

hugepatsfan
06-08-2012, 09:42 AM
If this game was closer LeBron could have dropped 55+on you guys. Rondo's game was good but not this good. LeBron carried his team like only a player of his calibre can.

Lebron's game was an all-timer and clearly better than Rondo's Game 2 (can't believe someone thinks it wasn't), but you can't just assume that Lebron would have played as well in a close game. It doesn't work like that. Not for Lebron or any other player or that matter.

BcEuAbRsS
06-08-2012, 09:44 AM
Great game by Lebron... You play like that and people won't mind that you call yourself King...

I don't expect Boston to shoot as poorly from 3 in game 7 however... gonna be a must watch game if you ask me...

whatup
06-08-2012, 09:58 AM
wow lebron has a good game and every fan of his ride his dick. He is horrible. He gets more calls from the refs and he is allowed to ***** and whine where other players would have gotten tossed from games. He is a big baby and is not even in my top ten in the nba. He flops more then anyone. Also, the biggest factor is of course he is going to have those numbers when he shoots more then 70% of the heats shots last night. If it was a fair called game then i guarrantee the heat would have lost. The heat would not have even gotten out of the first round if the refs didnt ride lebrons ****.

hugepatsfan
06-08-2012, 10:05 AM
wow lebron has a good game and every fan of his ride his dick. He is horrible. He gets more calls from the refs and he is allowed to ***** and whine where other players would have gotten tossed from games. He is a big baby and is not even in my top ten in the nba. He flops more then anyone. Also, the biggest factor is of course he is going to have those numbers when he shoots more then 70% of the heats shots last night. If it was a fair called game then i guarrantee the heat would have lost. The heat would not have even gotten out of the first round if the refs didnt ride lebrons ****.

This is what happens when elementary school teachers lets kids on the computer at snack time...

ATX
06-08-2012, 10:07 AM
wow lebron has a good game and every fan of his ride his dick. He is horrible. He gets more calls from the refs and he is allowed to ***** and whine where other players would have gotten tossed from games. He is a big baby and is not even in my top ten in the nba. He flops more then anyone. Also, the biggest factor is of course he is going to have those numbers when he shoots more then 70% of the heats shots last night. If it was a fair called game then i guarrantee the heat would have lost. The heat would not have even gotten out of the first round if the refs didnt ride lebrons ****.

...And there went ALL your credibility.

JordansBulls
06-08-2012, 10:08 AM
i think lebron is a better all around player than jordan in terms of skill sets. For example, Jordan couldn't play all 5 positions or guard all 5 positions like Lebron. Jordan couldn't go out and drop 50 points while dishing 10 assists or grab double digit rebounds. Of course, Jordan's legacy is obviously far greater. But in terms of a better player, I'd take Lebron in his prime over Jordan in his prime.

Except that he is not better. Jordan has better numbers and higher advanced stats than Lebron despite playing in an era where other guys put up big numbers in there primes as well such as Magic, Bird, Hakeem, Robinson, Malone, Barkley, etc. Only guys in there prime now are Durant, Lebron (Dwight and Rose were out).

bucketss
06-08-2012, 10:10 AM
wow lebron has a good game and every fan of his ride his dick. He is horrible. He gets more calls from the refs and he is allowed to ***** and whine where other players would have gotten tossed from games. He is a big baby and is not even in my top ten in the nba. He flops more then anyone. Also, the biggest factor is of course he is going to have those numbers when he shoots more then 70% of the heats shots last night. If it was a fair called game then i guarrantee the heat would have lost. The heat would not have even gotten out of the first round if the refs didnt ride lebrons ****.

http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/282/3/8/maximum_trolling_by_synknight-d30eobn.gif

basketfan4life
06-08-2012, 10:14 AM
You know what would i hate? If Miami makes it up to the finals, and wade steals the show and wins finals MVP. I would hate that. Don't think it is too far fetched, wade is a great finals performer. Flailing 3 rounds and then steal the MVP. If miami wins it, i want LBJ to win MVP.

camador22
06-08-2012, 10:15 AM
I've been watching the NBA for over 20 years and I have never seena postseason perfomance like that. Wade's finals performances were close but never like one man killing an entire team by himself in a close out game. This game deserves all the hype it's received.

bucketss
06-08-2012, 10:19 AM
i think lebron is a better all around player than jordan in terms of skill sets. For example, Jordan couldn't play all 5 positions or guard all 5 positions like Lebron. Jordan couldn't go out and drop 50 points while dishing 10 assists or grab double digit rebounds. Of course, Jordan's legacy is obviously far greater. But in terms of a better player, I'd take Lebron in his prime over Jordan in his prime.

:facepalm::facepalm:

StinkEye
06-08-2012, 10:21 AM
I don't know how much credit I would give Lebron for Pierces horrible performance. lol Pierce chocked on his own. He missed a bunch of wide open shots and screwed up a lot of defensive sequences. As good as Lebron was, Pierce was equally as bad.

Give LeBron no credit for taking Pierce totally out of his rhythm.

StinkEye
06-08-2012, 10:22 AM
You know what would i hate? If Miami makes it up to the finals, and wade steals the show and wins finals MVP. I would hate that. Don't think it is too far fetched, wade is a great finals performer. Flailing 3 rounds and then steal the MVP. If miami wins it, i want LBJ to win MVP.

Small sample size/pathetic Mavs defense/referees in a giving mood.

basketfan4life
06-08-2012, 10:30 AM
Small sample size/pathetic Mavs defense/referees in a giving mood.

ok , kid.

StinkEye
06-08-2012, 10:33 AM
ok , kid.

np, Gramps.

wtbaseball
06-08-2012, 10:36 AM
Lebron just keep letting the haters hate because if they aint hatin you aint trying. What a performance and if anyone denies his greatness last night then they dont know basketball. Not saying he is the best ever or anything but you could see it in his body language that he was going to be dominant there was no pregame antics, NOTHING he was all business and all about getting the win.

MagicHero3
06-08-2012, 10:45 AM
beast mode last night. if he did this consistently, THEN people will start comparing him to MJ23

Fmaranesi
06-08-2012, 10:53 AM
Amazing performance by LeBron last night, every shot he took was right on the money. I personally don't think he can come out shooting like that again in game 7 so he will have to attack a lot more and distribute more as well. Boston will clamp up that defense and put it all on the line. I expect a hard fought battle and LeBron will have to come up big again for the Heat to advance to the finals, unless Wade comes out of hiding and plays like he did against the Pacers.



By the way, all this LeBron isn't in Michael Jordans level are just delusional. You guys do realize that LeBron is only 27. How old was Jordan when he went to his first ever finals? 27.

bucketss
06-08-2012, 10:56 AM
one thing i find annoying is everytime lebron does something like this people start comparing him to jordan smh

celtNYpatsHeels
06-08-2012, 10:56 AM
lebron was &$^^#%# unreal last night. Great game on both ends. If he is locked in like that on Saturday then he will be playing in OKC on Tuesday. Best playoff performance of 2012

Swashcuff
06-08-2012, 11:05 AM
Lebron's game was an all-timer and clearly better than Rondo's Game 2 (can't believe someone thinks it wasn't), but you can't just assume that Lebron would have played as well in a close game. It doesn't work like that. Not for Lebron or any other player or that matter.

Why not with the way LeBron was shooting the ball last night its not far fetched to think that if the Celts were able to hit on at least 40% of their threes thus requiring LeBron to play the entire game that he wouldn't score another 7-10 points down the stretch. He was just that good it was his night.

King41
06-08-2012, 11:11 AM
big big game from James respect!

AIMelo=KillaDUO
06-08-2012, 11:29 AM
Great performance by the King last night. I honestly didnt think Miami would win that game in Boston. LeBron showed up, with a very special performace, I don't thnk his performance last night shakes his stigma of shying away in big moments, but, definatley shut some people up. I'm happy for 'Bron. We'll see if Miami is just as focused for game 7, we all know Boston will be ready. LeBron has looks hungry and focused. And when you add that with hard work it's a recipe for disaster for you aponent. (Wich is why I think Tim Bradley wins tomorrow night too! :D) Boston blew they're oportunity last night. I don't see LeBron allowing his team to lose in a game 7 @Home.

Swashcuff
06-08-2012, 11:29 AM
I doubt it. Lebron is a three quarter player. Last night's game didn't prove that he was a closer.

Oh really

So the player with the 2nd highest 4th quarter PER this past regular season is a 3 quarter player?


Not if you've been paying close attention to LeBron's fourth-quarter play this season. The 17-point barrage in the closing minutes in New Jersey. The 17 points on 8-of-9 shooting in Utah. The 12 points in a January game, following it up with a six-assist outing in a close February contest and then upstaging that with a 15-point outburst in an April game -- all coming in wins against the Philadelphia 76ers. Just ask Doug Collins if LeBron sputters out in the fourth quarter.

LeBron has heard all the jokes and it hasn't seemed to bother his play at all this season. Despite the breathless criticism that he vanishes in fourth quarters, his player efficiency rating (PER) in the fourth quarter (33.1) is much higher than his overall PER this season (30.8).

Link (http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/miamiheat/post/_/id/13850/lebron-continues-fourth-quarter-dominance)

However this is something you wont pay attention to because you are unable to comprehend this since you think all he does is play 3 quarters. :rolleyes:

Chronz
06-08-2012, 11:29 AM
No, Pierce was a lame excuse for a basketball player tonight and if he plays like that again in game 7 I would want him traded if I were a Celtics fan. Not saying that he will play bad again because I think he will show up. Just saying that his lack of effort was apparent and there is no excuse for that. A bad shooting night I can understand, but his effort was piss poor and it showed.
Your not a fan of the game IMO and your definitely not a Celtic fan so who cares, you dont understand what he does for that team. His defense wasnt trash, it was just outdone by a legendary performance. I mean you dont see many Heat fans calling Wade garbage for his inconsistent play on a team that DESPERATELY needs him to step up. You live with the good and the bad.

Swashcuff
06-08-2012, 11:31 AM
Your not a fan of the game IMO and your definitely not a Celtic fan so who cares, you dont understand what he does for that team. His defense wasnt trash, it was just outdone by a legendary performance. I mean you dont see many Heat fans calling Wade garbage for his inconsistent play on a team that DESPERATELY needs him to step up. You live with the good and the bad.

You're not the only one who shares that opinion. He clearly isn't one. I wouldn't doubt that he'd also be one of the guys who are always harping about professional athletes not being loyal to their teams :laugh2:

Chronz
06-08-2012, 11:33 AM
This is exactly the crap I hate. Lebron is not close to MJ...Just stop people. One good game and people overrate him tremendously. Let him win 4 rings before we even compare them. Even with 4 rings I wouldn't even put Lebron in the conversation because he had more help than MJ with Wade and Bosh. Jordan never had that kind of help and he did more.
MJ didnt need that kind of help because no one in the league had that kind of help, its a different league now. Relative to their eras, MJ had the best team in the league. The Cavs were nowhere near as talented as his Bulls and he did something MJ never did, defeat a superior team to make the Finals in a fashion unseen before by scoring every point down the stretch. So they both have ups and downs through this age in their careers.


Here are Lebron's averages in the finals so far...

19 ppg 6.9 apg 6.9 rpg on 41% field goals

0/2 in winning

Jordan was 6/6 in the finals with less help than Lebron. This is exactly why I am always against Lebron on here...because his fans are myopic fools.

The fact that he got Cleveland to the Finals can never held against him, he was overwhelmed by one of the greatest defenses ever and arguably the greatest Spurs team ever, MJ never had to face these kind of teams.

Dallas you can hold against him, although I believe he was truly spent by that point, still MJ wasnt making the Finals at that stage in his career so its hard to say MJ was clearly more successful.

Its not insulting to compare Bron and MJ at the same stage in their careers, obviously their legacies dont stack up right now but I dont think anyone is saying that. You can MJ was better but dont ridicule someone else for making a valid comparison.

Hawkize31
06-08-2012, 11:42 AM
Oh really

So the player with the 2nd highest 4th quarter PER this past regular season is a 3 quarter player?



Link (http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/miamiheat/post/_/id/13850/lebron-continues-fourth-quarter-dominance)

However this is something you wont pay attention to because you are unable to comprehend this since you think all he does is play 3 quarters. :rolleyes:

Pure ownage.

KingPosey
06-08-2012, 11:45 AM
**** man, the first 3 quarters were ridiculous.

Chronz
06-08-2012, 11:46 AM
Except that he is not better. Jordan has better numbers and higher advanced stats than Lebron despite playing in an era where other guys put up big numbers in there primes as well such as Magic, Bird, Hakeem, Robinson, Malone, Barkley, etc. Only guys in there prime now are Durant, Lebron (Dwight and Rose were out).

LOL show us what MJ's PER/WS would be in this era.

AIMelo=KillaDUO
06-08-2012, 11:51 AM
Oh really

So the player with the 2nd highest 4th quarter PER this past regular season is a 3 quarter player?



Link (http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/miamiheat/post/_/id/13850/lebron-continues-fourth-quarter-dominance)

However this is something you wont pay attention to because you are unable to comprehend this since you think all he does is play 3 quarters. :rolleyes:

I love you, Swash. In a Bromance kinda way :love:

Swashcuff
06-08-2012, 12:03 PM
I love you, Swash. In a Bromance kinda way :love:

Feel is mutual bro :love:

Lil Rhody
06-08-2012, 12:15 PM
Of course bron has been to more finals at 27 then mj. Mj didnt come out of high school. He would be a 5-6 year player really hitting his prime. Bron has been in the league for 9 years. Not saying bron isn't a beast or and hating just pointing that out

jiggin
06-08-2012, 12:24 PM
uhhh KG had a 32 PTS, 21 REB, 2 AST, 4 STL, 5 BLK game in 2004 conf. finals, if we are just throwing out random other players that have had unreal playoff games. I can probably come up with a good 5 or so more if you want a list.

off the top of my head:

James Worthy
George Mikan
Bill Walton
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
John Stockton
Charles Barkley
Wilt Chamberlain
Michael Jordan
Allen Iverson
Dominique Wilkins
Jerry West
Bob Cousy
Tim Duncan

are all players that have had an equal to or better playoff game than Lebron had last night.

Nice company, not knocking his performance...but its not the greatest in playoff history...and if you think so, you must have a history that only goes back since he started playing for the Heat.

Swashcuff
06-08-2012, 12:29 PM
uhhh KG had a 32 PTS, 21 REB, 2 AST, 4 STL, 5 BLK game in 2004 conf. finals, if we are just throwing out random other players that have had unreal playoff games. I can probably come up with a good 5 or so more if you want a list.

And I'm quite certain he would have gotten a thread of his own. No one is throwing out random players it was just giving props to a player for doing something that hasn't been done in most of our lifetimes. No one asked for a list.

bucketss
06-08-2012, 12:33 PM
Of course bron has been to more finals at 27 then mj. Mj didnt come out of high school. He would be a 5-6 year player really hitting his prime. Bron has been in the league for 9 years. Not saying bron isn't a beast or and hating just pointing that out

8 years*

Chronz
06-08-2012, 12:35 PM
uhhh KG had a 32 PTS, 21 REB, 2 AST, 4 STL, 5 BLK game in 2004 conf. finals, if we are just throwing out random other players that have had unreal playoff games. I can probably come up with a good 5 or so more if you want a list.

off the top of my head:

James Worthy
George Mikan
Bill Walton
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
John Stockton
Charles Barkley
Wilt Chamberlain
Michael Jordan
Allen Iverson
Dominique Wilkins
Jerry West
Bob Cousy
Tim Duncan

are all players that have had an equal to or better playoff game than Lebron had last night.

Nice company, not knocking his performance...but its not the greatest in playoff history...and if you think so, you must have a history that only goes back since he started playing for the Heat.
Are you saying we shouldnt talk about his game because other greats have played well? Or are you trying to spark a debate by making a direct comparison? If so then which games because I doubt they all had equally great games.

Chronz
06-08-2012, 12:37 PM
Of course bron has been to more finals at 27 then mj. Mj didnt come out of high school. He would be a 5-6 year player really hitting his prime. Bron has been in the league for 9 years. Not saying bron isn't a beast or and hating just pointing that out
Him being NBA ready before MJ only helps my argument. I will agree that MJ was the better player but you cant fault people for making the comparison.

Phenomenonsense
06-08-2012, 12:46 PM
I don't think that Lebron is as consistent and therefore on the level of Jordan, but that was one of the most dominant performances I've ever seen in the NBA playoffs.

natelpete
06-08-2012, 01:04 PM
The Heat need Lebron much more than Lebron needs the Heat.

I'm going to say his Game 5 against the Pistons in 07 was better.

48-9-7
29 of the Cavs last 30 points. Both games Lebron was coldAF

Raps18-19 Champ
06-08-2012, 01:14 PM
Of course bron has been to more finals at 27 then mj. Mj didnt come out of high school. He would be a 5-6 year player really hitting his prime. Bron has been in the league for 9 years. Not saying bron isn't a beast or and hating just pointing that out

Then compare it from when they are both age 21 to 27. Lebron still has more.

effen5
06-08-2012, 02:38 PM
Bron should maybe play with that cold blooded style every game? And why is Jordan even in this thread? Jordan's 63 is still more impressive because he had absolutely no one on that team.

b@llhog24
06-08-2012, 03:08 PM
The way Lebron played tonight, gave me a semi. I'm not sure how I feel about a basketball player making me go half mast.

:laugh2:


Not to be a smartass or start any sort of Kobe vs LeBron thread, but guys, LeBron was 19/26FG tonight.

19/26 is A LOT better than 19/35 and 15/29.

Again, not discrediting Kobe AT ALL, because what he did was phenomenal in two consecutive games, but this was some unreal efficiency.

Bron had the better game but Kobe's game was more efficient.


Lebron was averaging 30 in the series BEFORE game 6. There was never a question of him being a great player.

He had a great game tonight, but Miami was up 13 starting the 4th, and up 20 with 8 minutes left.

This still tells us NOTHING about whether Lebron has shaken his mental demons in the 4th quarter/close games.

Yes, Lebron carried his team in that game. The rest of Miami shot poorly for the most part.

However...

Boston shot themselves OUT of the game. Garnett/Pierce/Rondo couldn't make a bucket to save their lives. Open jumpers, point blank layups, floaters, open 3's, even FT's ... nothing they shot was going in. It's not like they didn't have their chances, they just couldn't make a bucket and it was NOT the Miami Defense making them miss.

They were just missing.

So, great game by Lebron, but it still doesn't tell us anything about the number 1 complaint... that he's the #1 player in the world for 40/48 minutes.

And oh yah, another no show by Wade... 1/6 in the first half. :facepalm:

:yawn:


When Nowitzi went for 48 on OKC last year with 6 Reb, 6 Assists and 4 Blocks on 12-15 shooting and 24-24 from the FT line, I did not hear people hyper ventilate about the greatest playoff performance since Wilt.

Great night but the nut huggers got to get a grip and take LBJ's thing out of their mouths. One great night. Good for LBJ. Stop the hyperbole as if this is rarely done.

Actually alot of people were giving him credit for having such a historic game. Its okay to discredit Bron but do you have to lie to get your point across?


I would never give this coward credit while wade is on the court with him. If wade got hurt and he did it then it would be legit. I dont know how someone can watch basketball for more then 5 years and approve of these cowards teaming up and destroying basketball. I much rather see them going at it like real man and stars. 2 clowns with the other dinasour face clown who said on record he would not be a 2nd option on a team as a free agent. So now he role player congrads

Point?


I'll go with the guy who wins the game early as opposed to the guy who puts you in a situation where you have to win late

:nod:


I doubt it. Lebron is a three quarter player. Last night's game didn't prove that he was a closer.

Based on?


You know what would i hate? If Miami makes it up to the finals, and wade steals the show and wins finals MVP. I would hate that. Don't think it is too far fetched, wade is a great finals performer. Flailing 3 rounds and then steal the MVP. If miami wins it, i want LBJ to win MVP.

He tried to do that last year but the Heat just lost.


Your not a fan of the game IMO and your definitely not a Celtic fan so who cares, you dont understand what he does for that team. His defense wasnt trash, it was just outdone by a legendary performance. I mean you dont see many Heat fans calling Wade garbage for his inconsistent play on a team that DESPERATELY needs him to step up. You live with the good and the bad.

Lol ownage.

Sactown
06-08-2012, 03:16 PM
I find it hard to believe people are bashing him after this game...

jiggin
06-08-2012, 03:34 PM
Are you saying we shouldnt talk about his game because other greats have played well? Or are you trying to spark a debate by making a direct comparison? If so then which games because I doubt they all had equally great games.

I am simply saying its not the GREATEST game in playoff history like some here are eluding too.

I said it was great company, no one is diminishing his game...but lets not make it into a bigger game than other greats of the past, just because it happened last night.

jiggin
06-08-2012, 03:36 PM
It was a great game...but could mean very little if things don't go the same way tomorrow night.

Just trying to keep things in perspective here, while everyone smacks each other on the butts :)

Swashcuff
06-08-2012, 03:39 PM
I am simply saying its not the GREATEST game in playoff history like some here are eluding too.

I said it was great company, no one is diminishing his game...but lets not make it into a bigger game than other greats of the past, just because it happened last night.

Not a single person on this entire forum alluded to that. You are clearly grasping for straws. It maybe wasn't even LeBron's best game so how can someone allude to it being the best ever.

netsgiantsyanks
06-08-2012, 03:43 PM
what's even crazier is that it's not even his best performance, the pistons game was straight brutal. i missed this game, but i HAVE to watch game 7. i predict 55, 20, and 12. :p

natelpete
06-08-2012, 03:50 PM
I doubt it. Lebron is a three quarter player. Last night's game didn't prove that he was a closer.

He closed the game last night, but it only took him three quarters to do it.

WadeKobe
06-08-2012, 03:53 PM
I think it is one of the greatest ever. Since 1986, NO player has ever had 45-15-5 in a playoff game. NO ONE. And to do it in a road playoff game facing elimination? Definitely one of the greatest performances in playoff history

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pgl_finder.cgi?request=1&player_id=&match=game&year_min=&year_max=&age_min=0&age_max=99&team_id=&opp_id=&is_playoffs=Y&round_is_ec1=Y&round_is_ecs=Y&round_is_ecf=Y&round_is_wc1=Y&round_is_wcs=Y&round_is_wcf=Y&round_is_fin=Y&game_num_type=team&game_num_min=&game_num_max=&game_month=&game_location=&game_result=&is_starter=&is_active=&is_hof=&pos_is_g=Y&pos_is_gf=Y&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_fg=Y&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&c1stat=pts&c1comp=gt&c1val=45&c2stat=trb&c2comp=gt&c2val=15&c3stat=ast&c3comp=gt&c3val=5&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&order_by=pts

This. Not to mention, he did it while guarding every position on the floor, and taking the opening tip-off, all while penciled in at the "3" and the "4", while running the 1 on offense most of the game.

khaleesi
06-08-2012, 04:03 PM
Dirk's 48 last year was more impressive.

khaleesi
06-08-2012, 04:05 PM
uhhh KG had a 32 PTS, 21 REB, 2 AST, 4 STL, 5 BLK game in 2004 conf. finals, if we are just throwing out random other players that have had unreal playoff games. I can probably come up with a good 5 or so more if you want a list.

off the top of my head:

James Worthy
George Mikan
Bill Walton
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
John Stockton
Charles Barkley
Wilt Chamberlain
Michael Jordan
Allen Iverson
Dominique Wilkins
Jerry West
Bob Cousy
Tim Duncan

are all players that have had an equal to or better playoff game than Lebron had last night.

Nice company, not knocking his performance...but its not the greatest in playoff history...and if you think so, you must have a history that only goes back since he started playing for the Heat.

For all LeBron nut huggers, history of the NBA began the first night they opened their mouths to him.

Add Dirk's 48 just last year and his 40 versus OKC.

khaleesi
06-08-2012, 04:07 PM
Oh really

So the player with the 2nd highest 4th quarter PER this past regular season is a 3 quarter player?



Link (http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/miamiheat/post/_/id/13850/lebron-continues-fourth-quarter-dominance)

However this is something you wont pay attention to because you are unable to comprehend this since you think all he does is play 3 quarters. :rolleyes:

If LeBron retires with no championships, I will nickname him PER in honor of his awesomeness.

Swashcuff
06-08-2012, 04:08 PM
If LeBron retires with no championships, I will nickname him PER in honor of his awesomeness.

You do that

Sactown
06-08-2012, 04:11 PM
You do that

His ignorance is insane

popo85
06-08-2012, 04:15 PM
I find it hard to believe people are bashing him after this game...

And there only argument is he did a ESPN interview:facepalm:

khaleesi
06-08-2012, 04:16 PM
Larry Bird close out game v Houston 29 Pts, 11 Reb, 12 Assist, 3 Steals
One game v Lakers in 1984, 27 points, 21 Reb, 7-8 Assists

..... LeBron nut huggers celebrating like tarts on crystal meth.

"Not since Wilt" was what I heard last night as his nut huggers were climaxing in their tissue box.

Now after a little reflection it became, "not since Dirk last year."

Swashcuff
06-08-2012, 04:17 PM
Did anyone catch what Skip Bayless had to say about the game today? I'm shocked we didn't see any threads about his comments on the game.

khaleesi
06-08-2012, 04:17 PM
His ignorance is insane

I just don't think he is GOAT or even top 10 all time.

Great player but not All Time great.

Let his career run out some first.

Swashcuff
06-08-2012, 04:18 PM
Larry Bird close out game v Houston 29 Pts, 11 Reb, 12 Assist, 3 Steals
One game v Lakers in 1984, 27 points, 21 Reb, 7-8 Assists

..... LeBron nut huggers celebrating like tarts on crystal meth.

You do know that had their been a PSD in those days Bird would have a thread of his own and his his own nut huggers right. :rolleyes:

KB-Pau-DH2012
06-08-2012, 04:18 PM
Did anyone catch what Skip Bayless had to say about the game today? I'm shocked we didn't see any threads about his comments on the game.

All his stuff is scripted. It creates ratings for the show. Trust me, he's playing just a TV personality.

popo85
06-08-2012, 04:19 PM
You do know that had their been a PSD in those days Bird would have a thread of his own and his his own nut huggers right. :rolleyes:

Haha I was about to post the same thing.