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Cal827
06-04-2012, 05:43 PM
In the thread on Roy Hibbert being an FA, The following was posted:


Hibbert is going to get the, "albatross contract that he doesn't deserve" award this summer.

My question for the rest of PSD is, who do you think will end up with the worse deal, Javale Mcgee or Roy Hibbert? It basically comes down to

Roy Hibbert's history (All Star, shown improvement over the past few years)

Javale Mcgee's potential (Dumb as bricks, but still puts up decent numbers and seems to look better in Denver's system.. could beast if he gets his head on straight)

Last year, Deandre Jordan basically got 10M per for blocking shots and dunking the ball. We have also seen contracts signed before based off sheer potential.

What do you guys think? I didn't put fair deal down because, we all know some dumb team is going to sign one of them to a brutal deal, then complain about it in the next lockout.

I honestly think that some dumbass team is going to near max Mcgee over Hibbert cause of his potential and the fact that he's working with Shaq this offseason.

xbrackattackx
06-04-2012, 05:49 PM
McGee will end up having a good career. I may be wrong but he will iron out the wrinkles. Camby was a little slow when drafted but he got better,got his poise down. Hibbert will stay around the same, may pick up a couple more post moves, he's already pretty good. There is a premium on centers so I say both get vastly overpaid. I think Jason Terry,Nick Young and Eric Gordon get overpaid.

Corey
06-04-2012, 05:51 PM
McGee, Hibbert, Lin, Batum, Kaman

lakerboy
06-04-2012, 06:12 PM
^^^ From a business perspective, Lin will be worth the money.

Worst signing will be McGee and Hibbert. For sure.

bigsams50
06-04-2012, 06:15 PM
McGee, Hibbert, Lin, Batum, Kaman

This. I would also add Brook Lopez and Eric Gordon

Corey
06-04-2012, 06:17 PM
This. I would also add Brook Lopez and Eric Gordon

I think Gordon will be worth it if he stays healthy...But that's a really big if.

I agree on Lopez though.

Corey
06-04-2012, 06:17 PM
^^^ From a business perspective, Lin will be worth the money.

Yeah, you're probably right. I wasn't really thinking about it from that aspect...I was just thinking in terms of on-court production.

bigsams50
06-04-2012, 06:18 PM
I think Gordon will be worth it if he stays healthy...But that's a really big if.

I agree on Lopez though.

I think it depend how much money Gordon gets. No doubting his skill, but i feel like NO will overpay to keep him.

valade16
06-04-2012, 06:19 PM
McGee, Hibbert, Lin, Batum, Kaman

Is there any team planning on throwing any money at Kaman? I think he could end up being one of the bigger steals in FA this year if he goes largely unnoticed.

llemon
06-04-2012, 06:26 PM
Is there any team planning on throwing any money at Kaman? I think he could end up being one of the bigger steals in FA this year if he goes largely unnoticed.

And uninjured

xbrackattackx
06-04-2012, 06:32 PM
And uninjured

Who gets Injured first, Kaman or Bogut?

CB29
06-04-2012, 06:40 PM
Lin or Hibbert... Lin needs a particular situation and talent to thrive... Hibbert's being overrated a little... There aren't many centers like him but he's not someone who's a #2 on a title contender and that's what he'll get paid like so gotta go with those 2.

BKLYNpigeon
06-04-2012, 06:43 PM
^^^ From a business perspective, Lin will be worth the money.

Worst signing will be McGee and Hibbert. For sure.

doesnt really matter, it still effects your salary cap.

llemon
06-04-2012, 06:44 PM
Who gets Injured first, Kaman or Bogut?

Bogut's under contract already, ain't he?

Kashmir13579
06-04-2012, 06:48 PM
Yeah, you're probably right. I wasn't really thinking about it from that aspect...I was just thinking in terms of on-court production.

We shall see.

Corey
06-04-2012, 06:50 PM
We shall see. I know you've got him listed as a bum but thats dead wrong.
Really? When did I say he was a bum?

I didnt. I just think he's going to be overpaid because of a hot 1 month stretch.

Edit: Nice ninja edit.

Gram
06-04-2012, 07:06 PM
It'll be Lin.

greg_ory_2005
06-04-2012, 07:18 PM
Batum, McGee. Probably Lin. Eric Gordon too, even though I'd be thrilled if the Raps overpaid to get him.

DerekRE_3
06-04-2012, 07:42 PM
I will laugh so hard if it's Spencer Hawes. It's gonna be a big guy who gets way overpaid for sure though. It always is.

LA_Raiders
06-04-2012, 07:58 PM
McGee, Hibbert, Lin, Batum, Kaman

This. over-rated sorry *** players...

heattiltheend94
06-04-2012, 08:11 PM
while hibbert will be overpaid, he truly is a good center (compared to the others in the league). as for mcgee, he has the potential to be good, but hasn't shown anything in his career so far which suggests he will be elite eventually

naps
06-04-2012, 08:17 PM
Has to be one of the bigs. Bigs are always overpaid.

Sandman
06-04-2012, 08:19 PM
Lin's only a 2 year pro too he wont be allowed to be offered a crazy contract

thekmp211
06-04-2012, 08:21 PM
hibbert is a solid player, he wiill be productive even if he gets overpaid.

mcgee on the other hand could be out of the league if he signs with the wrong team. he'd be wise to give denver a discount and blow up there, maybe on a 1 or 2 year contract

sixer04fan
06-04-2012, 09:13 PM
It's gotta be Hibbert. We all know it's going to be Hibbert haha

Young2Kinsler
06-04-2012, 09:45 PM
Hope it is Dallas that signs Hibbert, stud

Young2Kinsler
06-04-2012, 10:11 PM
Brinson probably has one of the higher ceilings in this draft, I like the pick

rocket
06-04-2012, 10:14 PM
Hibert

KingsOfQueens
06-05-2012, 01:23 AM
Don't get why so many people are saying Hibbert. Yeah he'll get a big contract, but he deserves it. He's one of the better centers in the league. If he gets 4/60 or 5/75 I think thats well deserved.

mdm692
06-05-2012, 04:13 AM
I think it depend how much money Gordon gets. No doubting his skill, but i feel like NO will overpay to keep him.
My suns are in desperate need of a go to scorer so I wouldnt be surprised if they max either gordon or batum.

kantiiii23
06-05-2012, 04:30 AM
Teams can only offer Lin up to a a Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level exception due to the "Gilbert Arenas" rule

todu82
06-05-2012, 04:56 AM
Javale Mcgee.

torocan
06-05-2012, 09:01 AM
Teams can only offer Lin up to a a Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level exception due to the "Gilbert Arenas" rule

They can only offer him the Mid-Level for the First 2 years, but they CAN offer him a multi-year contract with the later years Back Loaded to exceed a yearly average Above the mid-level salary.

For the right team, Lin can work both on a business and basketball basis. In order to bid on a RFA under the GA, they would need to offer a minimum of a 3 year contract. To outbid the Knicks, they would need to backload the contract to something like this...

5/5/8 = $18m, or $6m/year
5/5/11 = $21m or $7m/year

So yes, a team can effectively go above the mid-level, and for a team with lower attendance it makes perfect sense to backload the contract. They could even go above a salary that would normally Not make sense in basketball terms as the potential marketing dollars would make it more affordable to go into luxury tax territory and still remain profitable.

This is aside from his adding value to a franchise in terms of attracting higher end talent. Exposure to the Chinese Market and greater national coverage is a powerful attraction for a player that might normally not consider a smaller market franchise.

So yes, Lin *can* make sense for the right team even going above his intrinsic play. His ability to turn a small market team into a marketing behemoth as well as improving that team's bottom line would give that team significant advantages in attracting competitive talent.

This is why I could see teams like the Nets, Portland and the Raptors being willing to spend big $$$ for Lin, since they would benefit significantly more for each dollar spent on Lin than an established big market team.

Cal827
06-05-2012, 10:33 AM
Ok I guess I should have put which Center... since I think the others won't get as terrible contracts... but if the Mods could add some of the guys mentioned to the poll (Batum, Lin) it would be nice :)

koetravis
06-05-2012, 12:20 PM
McGee and Hibbert will get paid, they'll be seriously over paid but Spencer Hawes is going to be the one to make bank when he really shouldn't.

lygctt011
06-05-2012, 12:21 PM
Any team Kaman any money in planning? I think he will eventually become a larger steals in the FA Cup this year if he was largely ignored.
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justinnum1
06-05-2012, 12:21 PM
lin for sure

Raps18-19 Champ
06-05-2012, 12:24 PM
I change my mind.

Hibbert.

While Mcgee gets somewhere like $10 mil a year, Hibbert will get like $15 mil a year. Both are overpaid, but Hibbert's is worse.

Kashmir13579
06-05-2012, 04:00 PM
Really? When did I say he was a bum?

I didnt. I just think he's going to be overpaid because of a hot 1 month stretch.

Edit: Nice ninja edit.

Nice ninja response lol. And yes i remember you putting Lin in the absolute bottom teir of NBA pgs when discussing potential Rondo trades.. A man does not forget.

TopsyTurvy
06-05-2012, 05:02 PM
Ilyasova.

RonE Coleman
06-05-2012, 05:10 PM
lin for sure

Can you take your 35,000 posts to ****** already??? I dont think anyone in here values your opinion

Edit.... They seriously blank out real.gm???

Huntey
06-05-2012, 05:11 PM
Any Restricted Free Agent who can make a difference will get too much.

I said Hibbert because I think his value to the Pacers is is more than McGees value to any other team.

Jumi
06-09-2012, 01:02 AM
If I'm Portland, I'm overpaying for Lin! The Blazers would have the Northwest fanbase on lock. Then I'd hire D'Antoni as the coach. LA/Lin pick and rolls all day long!

JNoel
06-09-2012, 01:12 AM
No one mentioned Lou Williams, Michael Beasley

Jumi
06-09-2012, 01:20 AM
If I'm a GM, Michael Beasley doesn't even get a sniff. The Lakers will give it a shot though. He might like LA! The kid needs to man up and get it together!

MrfadeawayJB
06-09-2012, 01:25 AM
both will be overpaid but i think Hibbert is the safer bet to live up to the contract. However I dont see Hibbert getting much better while McGee could really improve in that Denver offense and showed glimpses of his potential in the laker series

Losoway
06-09-2012, 02:17 AM
Hibbert performance vs the heats this playoffs might lower his value ...he played terrible

i think LIN will get a HUGE contract from a selling stand point . his single handedly made new york basketball relevant for a month

King41
06-09-2012, 04:22 AM
hibbert easy choice

Iron24th
06-09-2012, 04:22 AM
Hibbert seems likely to become the winner of this thread.