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dnewguy
06-02-2012, 02:30 PM
It seems when the Miami Heat get the short end of the NBA refs everyone celebrates but when we get legit calls, there is an outrage. Did you all see what happened last night? we had a momentum then all of a sudden the Heat players gets grabbed, thrown around and no calls, and even some offensive fouls were called the other way....why doesn't anyone feel like trowing up after that game? Just shows an anti-heat hypocrisy in PSD and the media.

davids22
06-02-2012, 02:31 PM
Pretty much

Wade>You
06-02-2012, 02:36 PM
It seems when the Miami Heat get the short end of the NBA refs everyone celebrates but when we get legit calls, there is an outrage. Did you all see what happened last night? we had a momentum then all of a sudden the Heat players gets grabbed, thrown around and no calls, and even some offensive fouls were called the other way....why doesn't anyone feel like trowing up after that game? Just shows an anti-heat hypocrisy in PSD and the media.:clap:

I find it funny that people are rooting for the team with 17 championships and think that the league is rigging it for the team with 1 championship.

That's not hypocrisy, that's an idiocracy.

Well deserved thread, PSD Heat haters look like r-***** for not a single thread on the officiating after 3 or 4 threads last time. Typical.

LJEATON26
06-02-2012, 02:36 PM
If my child was an NBA referee, I would lie and tell my friends he was a gay porn star. Atleast it would be expected for him to blow things

29$JerZ
06-02-2012, 02:37 PM
It seems when the Miami Heat get the short end of the NBA refs everyone celebrates but when we get legit calls, there is an outrage. Did you all see what happened last night? we had a momentum then all of a sudden the Heat players gets grabbed, thrown around and no calls, and even some offensive fouls were called the other way....why doesn't anyone feel like trowing up after that game? Just shows an anti-heat hypocrisy in PSD and the media.

No offense but you were the same poster who said the Refs handed Dallas the championship last year.

Wade>You
06-02-2012, 02:40 PM
"I think Paul Pierce attacks just as much as LeBron James attacks. I'll leave it that." - Doc Rivers

LoL.

LeBron, 16-26, 5 FTAs.

Paul Pierce, 7-21, 7 FTAs.

Clearly, Paul Pierce is the unstoppable force here.

Did anyone see how he ran right into a standing-still LBJ and drew a foul by throwing the ball away and putting his arms up?

:laugh2:

DaSeba5
06-02-2012, 02:43 PM
I think we can all agree that the refs are horribly inconsistent and probably the worst in professional sports.

gotoHcarolina52
06-02-2012, 02:48 PM
It seems when the Miami Heat get the short end of the NBA refs everyone celebrates but when we get legit calls, there is an outrage. Did you all see what happened last night? we had a momentum then all of a sudden the Heat players gets grabbed, thrown around and no calls, and even some offensive fouls were called the other way....why doesn't anyone feel like trowing up after that game? Just shows an anti-heat hypocrisy in PSD and the media.

Very well put :clap:

B'sCeltsPatsSox
06-02-2012, 02:51 PM
"I think Paul Pierce attacks just as much as LeBron James attacks. I'll leave it that." - Doc Rivers

LoL.

LeBron, 16-26, 5 FTAs.

Paul Pierce, 7-21, 7 FTAs.

Clearly, Paul Pierce is the unstoppable force here.

Did anyone see how he ran right into a standing-still LBJ and drew a foul by throwing the ball away and putting his arms up?

:laugh2:

A. LeBron was pulling it up jumpers all game
B. They called the same foul on Pietrus in game 2.

Hustlenomics
06-02-2012, 02:54 PM
Game 1
Paul Pierce= 0 free throw attempts
Rondo= 0 free throw attempts

Reversed86Curse
06-02-2012, 02:54 PM
"I think Paul Pierce attacks just as much as LeBron James attacks. I'll leave it that." - Doc Rivers

LoL.

LeBron, 16-26, 5 FTAs.

Paul Pierce, 7-21, 7 FTAs.

Clearly, Paul Pierce is the unstoppable force here.

Did anyone see how he ran right into a standing-still LBJ and drew a foul by throwing the ball away and putting his arms up?

:laugh2:

The part you bolded is extremely hypocritical of you to say. That's how your boys get to the line 75% of the time.

To the OP- I think the reason it seems so anti-Heat is because of the overwhelming difference in calls favoring the Heat versus calls against them. Every teams is subject to missed calls (for or against) each game, but there have been some pretty obvious and blatant missed calls favoring the Heat, repeatedly, as of late.

godolphins
06-02-2012, 02:58 PM
The refs favored us in the first two games so I expected them to favor Boston last night and I expect them to do the same thing tomorrow night.

Did anyone else see that non call in the first quarter? Marquis Daniels grabbed LeBron in transition and the ref right in front of them didn't even call a foul.

macc
06-02-2012, 03:01 PM
There is a thread about the refs after every single playoff game. It just gets old...

Way to be original OP! I've said it so many times. If you think the NBA is rigged and that theres conspiracies everygame then DON'T WATCH.

Here's a crazy thought.... maybe, just maybe, the better team might actually win the series with their play on the court....I know that goes against the ref conspiracy theories but with my research, it looks like the better team typically wins the series reguardless of how many calls the refs blow. Crazy I know!

GiantsSwaGG
06-02-2012, 03:01 PM
No offense but you were the same poster who said the Refs handed Dallas the championship last year.

:clap:

Chronz
06-02-2012, 03:02 PM
"I think Paul Pierce attacks just as much as LeBron James attacks. I'll leave it that." - Doc Rivers

LoL.

LeBron, 16-26, 5 FTAs.

Paul Pierce, 7-21, 7 FTAs.

Clearly, Paul Pierce is the unstoppable force here.

Did anyone see how he ran right into a standing-still LBJ and drew a foul by throwing the ball away and putting his arms up?

:laugh2:

The part you bolded is extremely hypocritical of you to say. That's how your boys get to the line 75% of the time.

To the OP- I think the reason it seems so anti-Heat is because of the overwhelming difference in calls favoring the Heat versus calls against them. Every teams is subject to missed calls (for or against) each game, but there have been some pretty obvious and blatant missed calls favoring the Heat, repeatedly, as of late.
LOL, rly now, 75%? Why not go the complete 100. Nah lets make you sound scientifically objective and make it 99.5%.

Raph12
06-02-2012, 03:07 PM
Just stop all the *****ing and moaning, stop blaming everyone and just be a gracious loser... This isn't directed at Heat fans, but all fans in general.

fresh prince
06-02-2012, 03:15 PM
I think we can all agree that the refs are horribly inconsistent and probably the worst in professional sports.

I Concur..NBA refs are just plain brutal.. I think the answer is to just stop calling so many fouls. Let teams play more.. Doing that will make for a more intense and competitive game and git rid of dudes going 8 -26 but still dropping 30 points.

Free Throws are boring.

Frezhnitz
06-02-2012, 03:15 PM
all refs are horrible.

Odominator
06-02-2012, 03:21 PM
:violin:

Reversed86Curse
06-02-2012, 03:29 PM
LOL, rly now, 75%? Why not go the complete 100. Nah lets make you sound scientifically objective and make it 99.5%.

The point obviously was the hypocritical statement. Google didn't return any scientifically objective returns when I searched "percentage of times Lebron/Wade create a foul by running into someone standing still and throwing their hands up". Sorry

DaSeba5
06-02-2012, 03:31 PM
The Celtics got more calls, but that wasn't a major factor. The home team always gets call; it doesn't bother me.

We lost because we gave up 58 points in the paint and lost the rebound battle by 12. Judging by these stats alone, I could tell you without watching the game (which I did) that the Celtics played with a lot more energy last night.

still1ballin
06-02-2012, 03:37 PM
Miami fans never seem to amaze me :facepalm:

ThunderousDemon
06-02-2012, 03:38 PM
Heat fans= :mad: :cry:

The Rest of us= :bla: :violin:

I hope there isn't a thread created about every damn loss or win

RLundi
06-02-2012, 03:39 PM
I think we can all agree that the refs are horribly inconsistent and probably the worst in professional sports.

LOL every sport thinks it has the worst refs. That's because people are naturally idiots, innately biased and completely unsympathetic to the fact that referees are imperfect humans too.

DaSeba5
06-02-2012, 03:42 PM
LOL every sport thinks it has the worst refs. That's because people are naturally idiots, innately biased and completely unsympathetic to the fact that referees are imperfect humans too.

Basketball has the most complaints out of any sport. How often do people say baseball, football, and hockey is rigged as compared to the NBA?

DaSeba5
06-02-2012, 03:42 PM
Heat fans= :mad: :cry:

The Rest of us= :bla: :violin:

I hope there isn't a thread created about every damn loss or win

I'm a Heat fan and I :bla: :violin:

Super.
06-02-2012, 03:46 PM
Zomg Heat fans

don't watch if you don't like it!


:laugh: Isn't that what you morons were spamming after game 2?

ThunderousDemon
06-02-2012, 03:46 PM
I'm a Heat fan and I :bla: :violin:

http://www.wrestlingvalley.org/wp-content/uploads//1868/1868.jpg

DaSeba5
06-02-2012, 03:48 PM
http://www.wrestlingvalley.org/wp-content/uploads//1868/1868.jpg

:laugh2:

ThunderousDemon
06-02-2012, 03:49 PM
:laugh2:

oops, I hope Raps Champ doesn't get mad :D

king4day
06-02-2012, 03:53 PM
It's not going to matter. Neither fanbase will give pity to the other. More people hate the Heat and Heat fans know this. So of course people will complain less. I know i pay more attention to the calls that don't go the Suns' way as opposed to the ones that do.
That's what's happening.

Mrphilly
06-02-2012, 03:54 PM
This is a great post. He is not complaining about the loss, nor is he complaining about the Refs, All he is saying that, after another terribly officiated game, why is there no outrage. Could it be because it was in Boston's favor? Is the Hate for the Heat that strong on this site?

metsbulls1025
06-02-2012, 03:57 PM
"I think Paul Pierce attacks just as much as LeBron James attacks. I'll leave it that." - Doc Rivers

LoL.

LeBron, 16-26, 5 FTAs.

Paul Pierce, 7-21, 7 FTAs.

Clearly, Paul Pierce is the unstoppable force here.

Did anyone see how he ran right into a standing-still LBJ and drew a foul by throwing the ball away and putting his arms up?

:laugh2:

What you put in bold is something Dwayne Wade does religiously. You can't tell me I am wrong. He kicks his legs out, throws his arms all over the place, and screams. Foul gets called 9 time out of ten.

metsbulls1025
06-02-2012, 03:59 PM
This is a great post. He is not complaining about the loss, nor is he complaining about the Refs, All he is saying that, after another terribly officiated game, why is there no outrage. Could it be because it was in Boston's favor? Is the Hate for the Heat that strong on this site?

I think because the majority of the time the Heat get the calls. That is why you see the threads all the time. You see it every series. The Heat will get the calls all but 1-2 games a series.

Besides I think most of those threads turn into how the overall officiating in the NBA is just down right awful.

RLundi
06-02-2012, 04:00 PM
"I think Paul Pierce attacks just as much as LeBron James attacks. I'll leave it that." - Doc Rivers

LoL.

LeBron, 16-26, 5 FTAs.

Paul Pierce, 7-21, 7 FTAs.

Clearly, Paul Pierce is the unstoppable force here.

Did anyone see how he ran right into a standing-still LBJ and drew a foul by throwing the ball away and putting his arms up?

:laugh2:

Your numbers prove absolutely nothing, except that Paul Pierce missed 65% of his shots and got to the line 2 more times. How do you surmise this proves LeBron attacks the basket more?

knickfan33
06-02-2012, 04:01 PM
It seems when the Miami Heat get the short end of the NBA refs everyone celebrates but when we get legit calls, there is an outrage. Did you all see what happened last night? we had a momentum then all of a sudden the Heat players gets grabbed, thrown around and no calls, and even some offensive fouls were called the other way....why doesn't anyone feel like trowing up after that game? Just shows an anti-heat hypocrisy in PSD and the media.

jun 2010 join date thinks heat games are called fair...lol
the fact is the heat dont get as many of them on the road, when there home its fn joke... and they still manage t get these calls on the road...

the reason all these threads are directed at the heat its cause your one of the only teams still playing and your the ones who get these calls the most...ginobli is a ggreat flopper too, but doesnt get the calls on there level wade and bron do.

Super.
06-02-2012, 04:22 PM
If don't like it don't watch!

still1ballin
06-02-2012, 04:29 PM
then don't watch

Slug3
06-02-2012, 04:31 PM
I honestly think the refs do get caught up in the emotion of the home crowed sometimes. With that they can tend to make bad calls.

idub81
06-02-2012, 04:32 PM
This is a great post. He is not complaining about the loss, nor is he complaining about the Refs, All he is saying that, after another terribly officiated game, why is there no outrage. Could it be because it was in Boston's favor? Is the Hate for the Heat that strong on this site?

Truth.com but of course its ignored because it makes to much sense.

Casino
06-02-2012, 05:03 PM
There is a thread about the refs after every single playoff game. It just gets old...

Way to be original OP! I've said it so many times. If you think the NBA is rigged and that theres conspiracies everygame then DON'T WATCH.

Here's a crazy thought.... maybe, just maybe, the better team might actually win the series with their play on the court....I know that goes against the ref conspiracy theories but with my research, it looks like the better team typically wins the series reguardless of how many calls the refs blow. Crazy I know!

The reason we see all of this is that some fans think the only time officiating is fair is when the officials give their favroite team a lick fest.

Plus, I think conspiracy theories are for kooks and cracked pots.

X12Celtics3
06-02-2012, 05:03 PM
Spare ME the hypocrisy of hearing Heat fans complaining about a game where the home team had a slight edge in free throws when in the previous game Lebron alone had almost as many as the entire Celtics team. The Heat fans that are crying about the injustice in the officiating are doing the exact same thing that they are attacking Celtics fans are doing: only complaining when it doesn't go in their favorite team's favor.

Yes, NBA officiating is the worst in professional sports. Yes, the home team has been given an advantage by the officials all series. Nothing in this thread is as hypocritical as the opening post which seems to be trying to make the Heat out as the sole victims of this crime when in fact the worst case of the officials determining the outcome of a game was Game 2, which was actually fairly close and had a much more significant impact. The Heat wouldn't have won last night's game anyway, you don't win games when you have quarters in which you score just 14 points (same thing with the Celtics in Game 1).

Chronz
06-02-2012, 05:18 PM
Refs didn't even call the intentional foul for Bron.

SlimKid
06-02-2012, 05:29 PM
The Heat hate argument is getting old.. I'd say 25% of people adamantly hate the Heat, but who cares? When your team is the most covered team in the entire league, it's natural for certain people to be annoyed. But it's not a bad thing, your team is being covered a lot, hated on as you claim, because they are good. What is there to complain about? To claim this entire website is ignoring a horribly officiated game because everyone has Heat hate reeks of a complex..

xbrackattackx
06-02-2012, 05:32 PM
Once I saw all the horrible spelling and grammar, I knew it was a educated post. Btw where are all the PSD sport "treads" at? He was so excited to troll he didn't even care about spelling.

xbrackattackx
06-02-2012, 05:35 PM
lol I remember back in the back I got my first Infraction for saying " then don't watch" the good ole days. I miss our older jokes. :(

rocket
06-02-2012, 05:43 PM
Lol

theheatles
06-02-2012, 05:47 PM
do i think the nba is totally legit? absolutely not, but i still watch and i'm entertained, i used to watch the WWF and WCW and used to love it but grown out of it like i may with the nba but right now i'm lovin it and i think it's going to be rigged for the heat to win it this yr...like it was so blatantly obvious it was rigged for miami to get to the finals and lose last yr, refs helped them to get there in 5 each series but then in the finals if you breathed on barea, chandler or dirk insta fouls were called...and the lebron 4th quarter woes is completely obvious...i mean if he was going like 1-8, 1-9 in the 4ths then maybe he just couldn't do anything but lebron was obviously tanking

KB-Pau-DH2012
06-02-2012, 05:51 PM
What you put in bold is something Dwayne Wade does religiously. You can't tell me I am wrong. He kicks his legs out, throws his arms all over the place, and screams. Foul gets called 9 time out of ten.

This. It's been happening since the 2006 NBA Finals. Disgusting 6 yrs of basketball. :puke:

Sadds The Gr8
06-02-2012, 05:55 PM
Cool story brah

Huntey
06-02-2012, 05:58 PM
Boston won a game, deal with it...

YashBoone
06-02-2012, 06:00 PM
It seems when the Miami Heat get the short end of the NBA refs everyone celebrates but when we get legit calls, there is an outrage. Did you all see what happened last night? we had a momentum then all of a sudden the Heat players gets grabbed, thrown around and no calls, and even some offensive fouls were called the other way....why doesn't anyone feel like trowing up after that game? Just shows an anti-heat hypocrisy in PSD and the media.

I'm on record for saying nba and the refs in general have an agenda they wan to see through. I just see it a lot with Miami cause bron and wade are such floppers.... That's just fact, whether you like it or not....

I thought the same thing last night but my first reaction was to say that refs are teaching them a lesson.... Stop flopping, acting like your getting pummeled , all while you fouling the **** out of other guys.... Just play the game and maybe refs won't feel like every time they always have to decipher between flops or not ...... You think they don't go back and study the film?

SteBO
06-02-2012, 06:01 PM
What you put in bold is something Dwayne Wade does religiously. You can't tell me I am wrong. He kicks his legs out, throws his arms all over the place, and screams. Foul gets called 9 time out of ten.

This. It's been happening since the 2006 NBA Finals. Disgusting 6 yrs of basketball. :puke:
If that gets called nine times out of ten, then why does wade complain so much? Clearly, he doesn't get it as much as before, so.....

And let's face it, Miami got favorable calls in the first two games. It's only natural that Boston will get their fair share, especially at home. It's just sad that officiating is the main topic of conversation on this board while a great series between these two teams is brewing.

ManRam
06-02-2012, 06:02 PM
Why aren't there threads? Because the vast majority of people hate the Heat. When the Heat win, it's always because of the refs, and when they lose, it's because the other team was better...at least for the majority of this site. You know that, so why bother asking? It's stupid.

I'd like to think it's because we finally collectively got smart enough and stopped blaming the refs for everything, but come on...this is PSD, we cater to the lowest common denominator. It's ALWAYS the refs...actually, it's ALWAYS "the league" or "Stern".

But, if the league WERE to rig games (I don't for a second believe that take that risk), game three obviously would have been for the Celtic's benefit. There's no reason the league would want Miami to go up 3-0. Not a single damn reason...

Chill_Will_24
06-02-2012, 06:05 PM
lol I remember back in the back I got my first Infraction for saying " then don't watch" the good ole days. I miss our older jokes. :(

cool story bro :p

Toxeryll
06-02-2012, 06:06 PM
lol heat fans

YashBoone
06-02-2012, 06:08 PM
Why aren't there threads? Because the vast majority of people hate the Heat. When the Heat win, it's always because of the refs, and when they lose, it's because the other team was better...at least for the majority of this site. You know that, so why bother asking? It's stupid.

I'd like to think it's because we finally collectively got smart enough and stopped blaming the refs for everything, but come on...this is PSD, we cater to the lowest common denominator. It's ALWAYS the refs...actually, it's ALWAYS "the league" or "Stern".

But, if the league WERE to rig games (I don't for a second believe that take that risk), game three obviously would have been for the Celtic's benefit. There's no reason the league would want Miami to go up 3-0. Not a single damn reason...

Funny how you want to seem as though anyone with a "conspiracy theory" against the nba is crazy, but right at the end, slip in you rcase for a rigged game for Boston last night. Lol

shizzle09
06-02-2012, 06:11 PM
jesus effin lord. It's simple. Losing teams fans complains about the officials. When will people get this and stop arguing over it after every game.

SlimKid
06-02-2012, 06:11 PM
whatever fits the argument, right?

SlimKid
06-02-2012, 06:12 PM
jesus effin lord. It's simple. Losing teams fans complains about the officials. When will people get this and stop arguing over it after every game.

This!:clap:

ManRam
06-02-2012, 06:13 PM
Funny how you want to seem as though anyone with a "conspiracy theory" against the nba is crazy, but right at the end, slip in you rcase for a rigged game for Boston last night. Lol

I said "if they WERE" fixing games...and clearly said I don't think they are. I wasn't trying to insinuate that they did.

I know conspiracy theorists don't like facts or proof...but sometime you just gotta think about why a game would be fixed.

Does the league suddenly hate the 17 time champs from that TINY market up north called "Boston" and "New England"? No. They don't. The league doesn't hate the Heat either. There is no favorite for them here IMO...none at all. There is also no reason for them to fix games...the risks FAR outweigh the benefits and it's not even close.

Sorry if you misunderstood. I guess I wasn't clear.


I don't think there was a damn thing wrong with the officiating last night. Not one.

shizzle09
06-02-2012, 06:18 PM
I'm on record for saying nba and the refs in general have an agenda they wan to see through. I just see it a lot with Miami cause bron and wade are such floppers.... That's just fact, whether you like it or not....

I thought the same thing last night but my first reaction was to say that refs are teaching them a lesson.... Stop flopping, acting like your getting pummeled , all while you fouling the **** out of other guys.... Just play the game and maybe refs won't feel like every time they always have to decipher between flops or not ...... You think they don't go back and study the film?

you cant sit here on PSD and try and tell any of us you're not completely biased towards the heat. Read what you say back to yourself. its comedy. Wade and Lebron do nothing but flop all while fouling everybody while on defense. THEYRE 2 OF THE BEST PLAYERS IN THE WORLD!!!! THEY GET FOULED!!!! ALOT!! your bias blinders youre wearing got you seeing things when you watch these games. :facepalm:

YashBoone
06-02-2012, 06:19 PM
I don't either Manram, lose the attitude silly Susie.... But rigging games would make perfect sense to business men like stern so what are you talking about?

Longer season = more revenue
More drama = more revenue
Having more exciting teams in the finals=more revenue (lets be honest, would you rather watch heat and okc or spurs and celtics?)

More revenue = all business men give a flying **** about.

Who are you kidding with the risk???? Business men take risks like its nothing.

Rego247
06-02-2012, 06:22 PM
Why hasn't the op deleted his account yet???

xbrackattackx
06-02-2012, 06:23 PM
cool story bro :p

I'm reminiscing man...sorry for opening up so much..:(

YashBoone
06-02-2012, 06:23 PM
I'm on record for saying nba and the refs in general have an agenda they wan to see through. I just see it a lot with Miami cause bron and wade are such floppers.... That's just fact, whether you like it or not....

I thought the same thing last night but my first reaction was to say that refs are teaching them a lesson.... Stop flopping, acting like your getting pummeled , all while you fouling the **** out of other guys.... Just play the game and maybe refs won't feel like every time they always have to decipher between flops or not ...... You think they don't go back and study the film?

you cant sit here on PSD and try and tell any of us you're not completely biased towards the heat. Read what you say back to yourself. its comedy. Wade and Lebron do nothing but flop all while fouling everybody while on defense. THEYRE 2 OF THE BEST PLAYERS IN THE WORLD!!!! THEY GET FOULED!!!! ALOT!! your bias blinders youre wearing got you seeing things when you watch these games. :facepalm:

Lol, no your right, Lebron and wade don't flop. That's such a true statement ..... And yeah I HATE MIAMI..... Always have.... I'm a knick fan from way back an there will always be a rivalry to me.... Just like I can't Stand the redsox cause I'm a Yankee fan.

PurpleJesus
06-02-2012, 06:24 PM
HEAT fans, I'm gonna let you in on a little secret...the world does not revolve around your team.

Chill_Will_24
06-02-2012, 06:28 PM
you cant sit here on PSD and try and tell any of us you're not completely biased towards the heat. Read what you say back to yourself. its comedy. Wade and Lebron do nothing but flop all while fouling everybody while on defense. THEYRE 2 OF THE BEST PLAYERS IN THE WORLD!!!! THEY GET FOULED!!!! ALOT!! your bias blinders youre wearing got you seeing things when you watch these games. :facepalm:

They dont get fouled as much as you think. Lebron is bigger than some power forwards. When he gets pulled down or smacked its definitely a foul However when he drives recklessly in the lane and gets brushed by an opponents arm on the way down and a foul is called cuz he missed the layup?... yea.. its a problem.

These guys drive the lane too often for the refs to be babying them every time they get touched. If these guys are so talented they shouldnt need the refs help to score their 30pts. Not to mention that all the constant foul calls take away from the flow of the game and make the game boring.

ChongInc.
06-02-2012, 06:28 PM
I think we can all agree that the refs are horribly inconsistent and probably the worst in professional sports.

Agreed. Something must be done.

Chill_Will_24
06-02-2012, 06:29 PM
HEAT fans, I'm gonna let you in on a little secret...the world does not revolve around your team.

Apparently it does because you cant go an hour without a Het related thread being started... not always by a Heat fan.

YashBoone
06-02-2012, 06:32 PM
I have never seen another player land on his back as much as wade. Ever.
It like he has no Effin clue how to use his feet....

Do you think he is trying to get the foul call???? I sure do?

And do you think that may have something to do with refs no calls sometimes????

If a man drives to the hoop and flops 7 times out of ten, just because there was no other option, if I was ref I would wait for him to get blatantly smacked across the face to call the foul.

KNICKS R BACK
06-02-2012, 06:42 PM
i think the real question here is..."Why You Crying?" (george lopez voice)

dnewguy
06-02-2012, 07:18 PM
i think the real question here is..."Why You Crying?" (george lopez voice)

Not sure anyone here knows who George Lopez is.

Gritz
06-02-2012, 07:25 PM
Not 1, not 2, not 3

RLundi
06-02-2012, 07:28 PM
Not sure anyone here knows who George Lopez is.

I do.

J4KOP99
06-02-2012, 07:47 PM
These two teams are so similar in regards to how they are treated by the refs. Both teams get away with fouling because of their defensive reputation AND both teams get away with serious flopping.

samus
06-02-2012, 07:59 PM
i thinc it would be pretty hard to ref a nba game.

however GAME 1 and 2 was stupid with how many tiny fouls were being called in our favor. i watched both with brother (nugget fan) it was a shame to see and i can understand celts fans anger n thincing the game was slghtly rigged. i wanted to heat to win fair n square

kenzo400
06-02-2012, 08:00 PM
Did anyone see how he ran right into a standing-still LBJ and drew a foul by throwing the ball away and putting his arms up?

You must be kidding me, Wade and LBJ have made their careers from this kind of flopping lol

bucketss
06-02-2012, 08:16 PM
You must be kidding me, Wade and LBJ have made their careers from this kind of flopping lol

doesn't it get annoying copying pasting peoples post than wrapping it with quotes in the reply? why don't you just press the quote button?(im assuming this is what you're doing)

Sadds The Gr8
06-03-2012, 12:17 AM
why hasn't the op deleted his account yet???

+1

jp611
06-03-2012, 12:26 AM
This is a really good tread

effen5
06-03-2012, 11:07 AM
:laugh:

Shareeb_omac2
06-03-2012, 11:36 AM
The Heat get way more stupid calls then any team in the league. There is no way to measure it statistically do don't bother posting freethrow attempts, blah blah blah.

Superstars get calls, and the Heat have 2 of the top 4 players in the league...

YoungOne
06-03-2012, 11:51 AM
lol 2 bs calls on KG to get miami back in, but yeah the heat got screwed :rolleyes:

dnewguy
06-03-2012, 12:00 PM
lol 2 bs calls on KG to get miami back in, but yeah the heat got screwed :rolleyes:

And how did Boston even get back in the game to begin with? Ohh...letting them grab, push, shove and no calls....then Paul Pierce went on a free trow spree. The refs took the momentum out of Miami and that's how you even have the lead to begin with.

SteBO
06-03-2012, 12:26 PM
lol 2 bs calls on KG to get miami back in, but yeah the heat got screwed :rolleyes:
It was a well officiated game overall, but then again so was Games 1 & 2. What's going on here is that a couple of bad calls at the worst possible times is skewing everyone's mind about the overall officiating from game to game. When are we going to get to the point where we accept that officials are human and are going to be influenced somewhat by the home crowd, stars, etc.? You guys act like the officiating was atrocious......it wasn't.

We get it..the losing team will never give the other team credit. It's always the refs because no fan base knows how to take a loss in stride.....sad.

yoseppii12
06-03-2012, 12:30 PM
The problem is the NBA has become a ticky tack league. It kind of reminds me of the NFL. Goodell has taken Stern's route as commish by making their respective leagues more offense driven.

If you think about it, in the NBA it is easier to call a foul then it was 10 years ago, even more so 20 years ago. This allows and gives the refs a lot of power, that they probably shouldn't have. As well, with more rules and it becoming more ticky tack you will inherently have more out cry for terrible officiating because there is no clear cut definitive fouls. The easiest example is complaining or yelling at refs, sometimes its a technical, sometimes its not.

You see the parallels in the NFL now too. Why are all these passing records getting broken? Why can two young TEs have ridiculous years that rank Top 10 in the history of TEs. Ohh yeah, because you can't hit over the middle anymore. NFL has a case because of safety, the NBA has no case.

People need to realize its probably somewhere around 20% entertainment and 80% genuine competitive sports. The refs can only do so much, they can't put the ball in the hoop for any teams. As well, I think people fail to understand that what Stern probably wants the most is all these games to go 7. He, along with the owners, crammed all those games into this shorten season because thats how they make the most money. Hence, expect these series to go deep unless particular teams shoot very poorly.

YoungOne
06-03-2012, 12:37 PM
It was a well officiated game overall, but then again so was Games 1 & 2. What's going on here is that a couple of bad calls at the worst possible times is skewing everyone's mind about the overall officiating from game to game. When are we going to get to the point where we accept that officials are human and are going to be influenced somewhat by the home crowd, stars, etc.? You guys act like the officiating was atrocious......it wasn't.

We get it..the losing team will never give the other team credit. It's always the refs because no fan base knows how to take a loss in stride.....sad.

my point was, that there were terrible calls on us aswell...

SteBO
06-03-2012, 03:33 PM
my point was, that there were terrible calls on us aswell...
You just reiterated my point......it's been going both ways. I just wish fans would accept it for what it is and move on. What's the point of complaining about it? It isn't changing....

jericho
06-03-2012, 03:41 PM
There is a thread about the refs after every single playoff game. It just gets old...

Way to be original OP! I've said it so many times. If you think the NBA is rigged and that theres conspiracies everygame then DON'T WATCH.

Here's a crazy thought.... maybe, just maybe, the better team might actually win the series with their play on the court....I know that goes against the ref conspiracy theories but with my research, it looks like the better team typically wins the series reguardless of how many calls the refs blow. Crazy I know!

kings 02 and dallas 06 have something to say bout that they were the better teams and lost thanks to the refs :p

dnewguy
06-03-2012, 03:42 PM
You just reiterated my point......it's been going both ways. I just wish fans would accept it for what it is and move on. What's the point of complaining about it? It isn't changing....

I agree but it seems people only complain when Miami gets the calls but once it's not Miami, then no one says anything. See Steve A Smith rant after game 2, where was he after game 3? Look at the ESPN analysts calling out refs after game 1 and 2 but where were they after game 3? Now look at psd, most people here had no problem when Celtics, Bulls, Lakers and all the anti-Heat fans here complain, but once a Heat fan says anything then it's called whining....which is what they've all been doing prior to game 3.

WickedBadMan
06-03-2012, 04:01 PM
I've just started watching basketball, does this Dwayne Wade fellow have a poor equilibrium or something?? I've never seen him take a shot without falling over, he should see a doctor!!

bucketss
06-03-2012, 04:04 PM
I've just started watching basketball, does this Dwayne Wade fellow have a poor equilibrium or something?? I've never seen him take a shot without falling over, he should see a doctor!!

since you're new to watching i should inform you if you insult wade again i'll cut you, first warning..



*sips kool-aid*

ne3xchamps
06-03-2012, 04:44 PM
I think we can all agree that the refs are horribly inconsistent and probably the worst in professional sports.

this.

Let's not make it about bad calls towards one team, its been equally bad for both.

Lord Leoshes
06-03-2012, 05:11 PM
They dont get fouled as much as you think. Lebron is bigger than some power forwards. When he gets pulled down or smacked its definitely a foul However when he drives recklessly in the lane and gets brushed by an opponents arm on the way down and a foul is called cuz he missed the layup?... yea.. its a problem.

These guys drive the lane too often for the refs to be babying them every time they get touched. If these guys are so talented they shouldnt need the refs help to score their 30pts. Not to mention that all the constant foul calls take away from the flow of the game and make the game boring.

Should that rule only be for Bron, & Wade, or would it be for all who drive to the hole a lot like Rose, or even Rondo? :confused:

Lord Leoshes
06-03-2012, 05:18 PM
Does anyone else feel deja vu?


This is the same crap i used to here about Kobe, & Shaq several years back, & before that it was with Jordan who you could not even breath on or your get called for the foul. :facepalm:


Simply put is superstars get calls in this league whether you like it or not.

Chill_Will_24
06-03-2012, 05:18 PM
Should that rule only be for Bron, & Wade? :confused:

For everyone. The problem is the refs not the players. What is Wade supposed to say? "no thank you, i dont deserve this free throw..."? The refs need to swallow their whistle more and let players play through contact and only call legit fouls. Refs have become too involved in the games.

Rose, Westbrook, Kobe, Durant, Wade, Bron are the main ones i can think of that are babied by the league. Let the refs have less impact on the games and let the players' abilities get them their stats

Lord Leoshes
06-03-2012, 05:25 PM
For everyone. The problem is the refs not the players. What is Wade supposed to say? "no thank you, i dont deserve this free throw..."? The refs need to swallow their whistle more and let players play through contact and only call legit fouls. Refs have become too involved in the games.

Rose, Westbrook, Kobe, Durant, Wade, Bron are the main ones i can think of that are babied by the league. Let the refs have less impact on the games and let the players' abilities get them their stats



You being a Chi fan should know that it's been going on forever. Hell just think back to MJ.

But i do agree that the refs have way to much control over the game that players get called fr T just for showing emotions.

Its stupid, but that's what is happening not only in the NBA, but in the US Government.:facepalm:

fishedz
06-03-2012, 05:38 PM
This is why the NBA sucks....and I don't watch it anymore. Sad....what it once was...was amazing in comparison. Thanks Stern...it's a joke, and the stars are complete pussiezzz in comparison.

Now go back to complaining about which team got more calls in which game, which star is more babied, how bron isnt a flopping whore, how he isn't a b$tch for leaving CLE, how the celts should have 3 rings with this squad lololol, etc....... NBA=joke

And it sure is fun watching people moan about it on PSD, more entertaining then the game

tcav701
06-03-2012, 05:52 PM
Oh and the Celtics were certainly not getting called for the borderline calls on LeBron and Wade like they were in game 2.

To say the public criticism after game 2 did not play a role in the officiating in game 3 would be false.

Either way, we got a much better brand of basketball Friday.

PatsSoxKnicks
06-03-2012, 06:03 PM
I think the officiating in the league is absolutely atrocious (though its a tough job to do so fix the problem stern...) and I think Stern is a very poor commissioner (at least right now). The stories you hear about him show he's basically like that power hungry dictator. However, I don't think he plays favorites with any teams. Could you wonder about some games (Lakers-Kings in 02 comes to mind)? Sure. But I don't think he rigs series. Thats too risky and thats too blatant.

Also, it is completely true that about 90% of America hates the Heat with a blinding passion so most people will complain if the Heat get calls and say the refs are the only reason the Heat win. But Heat fans should know that already. Most fans can't be objective when it comes to the Heat. However, that doesn't mean you have to reciprocate and make a thread complaining about the refs in game 3. The refs in general are awful but we don't need to use them as an excuse.

bucketss
06-03-2012, 06:24 PM
Oh and the Celtics were certainly not getting called for the borderline calls on LeBron and Wade like they were in game 2.

To say the public criticism after game 2 did not play a role in the officiating in game 3 would be false.

Either way, we got a much better brand of basketball Friday.

only thing that made it much better is that miami lost no other reason you and everyone else can keep denying it.

tcav701
06-03-2012, 06:43 PM
only thing that made it much better is that miami lost no other reason you and everyone else can keep denying it.

Not true.

Game 2 had almost 80 free throws.

Not what I like to see in playoff basketball.

Losoway
06-03-2012, 07:36 PM
if the nba was rigging it would def be to push this series to game 7 not for the heat to destroy the celtics

smh people gotta use they brain

Shlumpledink
06-03-2012, 07:42 PM
This is more of a case of terrible officiating t owards the home team. NBA refs are swayed by home crowds, and by how they're portrayed in the media. If there is a lot of talk about how the refs are swayed towards one player or team, the next game the refereeing is the complete opposite. Is this a coincidence? During the course of a single game this happens, why should a series be any different? Make-up calls are a real thing, and so are make-up games.

Lord Leoshes
06-04-2012, 03:10 PM
At least the officiating in game 4 wasn't as bad as the other 3.

king4day
06-04-2012, 03:18 PM
Sounds like the complaints are going both ways. Reffing has been bad for both sides. Miami losing last night just amplified it for them.

Slug3
06-04-2012, 03:21 PM
I think all 4 games have been reffed bad and it makes me think it will be bad again tomorrow.

IndyFan
06-04-2012, 04:21 PM
the big difference in the officiating in game 4 was joe crawford. i noticed a couple of times the other guys wanted to go off on a tangent about a call and crawford said no this is the call. i never have a problem with joe as the crew chief. he is the best in the business.

FreakaNashur
06-04-2012, 05:30 PM
thank you. i was waiting a thread like this.

Nba is a joke for allowing **** like this.

sep11ie
06-04-2012, 05:36 PM
Maybe refs get tired of being made looking foolish after the stupid flops. Refs revenge.

thekmp211
06-04-2012, 05:37 PM
there needs to be a change in philosophy for sure. but that would mean allowing the game to be more physical again. not sure if that is going to happen.

new york blue
06-05-2012, 12:11 PM
There is a thread about the refs after every single playoff game. It just gets old...

Way to be original OP! I've said it so many times. If you think the NBA is rigged and that theres conspiracies everygame then DON'T WATCH.

Here's a crazy thought.... maybe, just maybe, the better team might actually win the series with their play on the court....I know that goes against the ref conspiracy theories but with my research, it looks like the better team typically wins the series reguardless of how many calls the refs blow. Crazy I know!

Usually it does balance out. And conspiracy theories are just idiotic arguments for so many reasons that it is hard to know where to start. I go with history in that there is not, to my knowledge, a documented case in any professional sportswhere "the league" told the refs to make sure that some team wins.

flylikeaBIRD
06-05-2012, 12:49 PM
The Celtics got more calls, but that wasn't a major factor. The home team always gets call; it doesn't bother me.

We lost because we gave up 58 points in the paint and lost the rebound battle by 12. Judging by these stats alone, I could tell you without watching the game (which I did) that the Celtics played with a lot more energy last night.

And you guys still caught up to us in the end.:facepalm:

I agree it generally favours the home team a bit but it wasn't like they were letting anything egregious go. Hopefully it stays a tight series and the reffing as well tightens up and we can have the players decide a very good series so far.

k.smith904
06-05-2012, 12:49 PM
lol the Heat mod deleted my post about the OP being hypocritical about his hypocrisy.


Triple hypocrisy? We need to go deeper...

sep11ie
06-05-2012, 12:49 PM
^ Was any of that English?

MTL_123
06-05-2012, 01:34 PM
OP dont u know if miami loses its legit but if miami wins its rigged its the rules

BigBlueCrew
06-05-2012, 01:36 PM
OP dont u know if miami loses its legit but if miami wins its rigged its the rules

U Miami fans make me laugh...so much fun :laugh:

KobeOwnSU
06-05-2012, 03:06 PM
Honey Badger don't care!