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RedSox>Yankees
06-01-2012, 06:58 PM
Official picks below. Players in bold have signed with the Red Sox.



1 Deven Marrero SS Arizona State
1 Brian Johnson LHP Florida
1s Pat Light RHP Monmouth
2 Jamie Callahan RHP Dillon HS (SC)
3 Austin Maddox RHP Florida
4 Ty Buttrey RHP Providence HS (NC)
5 Mike Augliera RHP Binghamton
6 Justin Haley RHP Fresno State
7 Kyle Kraus RHP Portland
8 Nathan Minnich 1B Shepherd College
9 Mike Miller SS Cal Poly
10 JT Watkins C Army
11 Jamal Martin OF Dwyer HS (FL)
12 Michael Meyers SS Silverado HS (NV)
13 JB Wendelken RHP Middle Georgia
14 Dylan Chavez LHP Mississippi
15 Carson Fulmer RHP All Saints Acad. (FL)
16 Ste. Williams RHP Seminole St.(OK)
17 Wil. Ethington RHP Mountain View HS (AZ)
18 Shaq Thompson OF Grant HS (CA)
19 Iseha Conklin SS Iowa Western CC
20 Greg Larson RHP Florida
21 Jake Davies 1B Georgia Tech
22 Joe Greenfield RHP South Suburban CC (IL)
23 Brandon Magee OF Arizona State
24 Keaton Briscoe 2B U. of British Columbia
25 Khiry Cooper OF Nebraska
26 Jacob Nelson RHP Lake Stevens HS (FL)
27 Qui. Carpenter RHP Goshen Central HS (NY)
28 Wes Rogers OF Mann HS (SC)
29 Alex Bregman 2B Albuquerque Acad. (NM)
30 Justin Taylor RHP Farmville Central (NC)
31 Austin Davis RHP Southern Mississippi
32 Hunter Wood RHP Rogers Heritage (AR)
33 Chris Carlson OF Orange Coast CC (CA)
34 Xavier Turner 3B Sandusky HS (OH)
35 Pat Delano RHP Braintree HS (MA)
36 Mig. Rodriguez C UNC Charlotte
37 Jon. Dziedzic LHP Lamar
38 Donald Smith C Claflin
39 Kurt Schluter RHP Stetson
40 Kevin Heller OF Amherst


UDFA: Kevin Mager (1B, Rollins)




Latest mocks:

Keith Law (ESPN) has the Red Sox taking 2 high schoolers in the first round. Catcher Stryker Trahan and SS/3B Tanner Rahier.

Jim Callis (BA) has the Red Sox picking Duke pitcher Marcus Stroman and prep pitcher Walker Weickel in the first round.

Station 13
06-01-2012, 07:00 PM
Another SS/3B? Picking best player is fine. :sigh:

RedSox>Yankees
06-01-2012, 07:00 PM
Also, Law connects Texas A&M's OF Tyler Naquin to the Sox.

RedSox>Yankees
06-01-2012, 07:01 PM
Some good info for non obsession draft followers:

http://news.soxprospects.com/2012/06/red-sox-draft-preview-part-4-of-4.html

RedSox>Yankees
06-01-2012, 08:17 PM
http://sbb.scout.com/2/1191326.html#.T8lW624CgNo.twitter

Celtic AL
06-02-2012, 12:34 AM
alot of HS talent going to be drafted in the 1st round must be a weak crop of college players for this years draft

AI
06-02-2012, 01:18 AM
Starwalt :pray:

RedSox>Yankees
06-02-2012, 09:54 AM
Starwalt :pray:

I like him too. I hope we scoop him up in the third or fourth round.

Melo15
06-02-2012, 10:08 AM
Haven't been following too closely this year but Gallo's power really intrigues me.

Nomar
06-02-2012, 01:07 PM
Lol Melo i just came here to say i want them to draft Gallo.

Both Gallo and Starwalt are going to be hard to sign. Starwalt i think could be really hard because if he plays in college and pitches well, his draft stock increases a lot. Gallo is supposed to play at LSU so if hes drafted late im sure he wont be too happy.

But if Gallo is a guy who could be a top 15 or top 10 pick next year, thats a good reason to draft him now and sign him even though it wont be easy.

Green_Monster
06-02-2012, 03:18 PM
Some good info for non obsession draft followers:

http://news.soxprospects.com/2012/06/red-sox-draft-preview-part-4-of-4.html

I was reading the article in the link and wondered, did Carl Zastrzemski's grandson sign with the Sox, or go to school?

BGeer091
06-02-2012, 03:38 PM
Nick Williams is the guy I have my eye on for a later round pick. The other guy I really like is Nelson Rodriguez. They are going to be project guys however there ceiling is incredible.

For the 24th pick i am not to sure who I'd like us to grab. I really like Gavin Cecchini, but it doesn't look like hes going to be there for us. After reading that article I kinda like Gallo/Roach. Its a shame there isn't a Matt Barnes again this year for us.

The 31st pick is another im not to sure on. I'd love to get Eflin but idk if he's going to be there either. I don't even know if he'd be there at 24.

My top players I like in this draft are..

Nick Williams
Zach Eflin
Andrew Heaney
Gavin Cecchini
Daniel Starwalt(Thanks to whoever first opened my eyes to him on here)
Nelson Rodriguez
Luke Bard
and
Nolan Fontana

AI
06-02-2012, 04:35 PM
That would be me (points at sig)

RedSox>Yankees
06-02-2012, 04:43 PM
I was reading the article in the link and wondered, did Carl Zastrzemski's grandson sign with the Sox, or go to school?

He did not sign and went to Vandy.

NE Sportsfan
06-02-2012, 04:45 PM
I'd maybe take Starwalt day 2

RedSox>Yankees
06-02-2012, 04:46 PM
http://news.soxprospects.com/2012/06/draft-special-q-with-rhett-wiseman.html

AI
06-02-2012, 04:52 PM
Someone who I also like ALOT is Walker Weickel.

RedSox>Yankees
06-02-2012, 04:58 PM
Someone who I also like ALOT is Walker Weickel.

+1, He's also a US U18 performer, something the Red Sox always look for in top picks.

RedSox>Yankees
06-02-2012, 05:03 PM
I hope the Sox draft 2 of the following players on day one.

Marcus Stroman
Zach Eflin
Victor Roache
Travis Jankowski
DJ Davis
Joey Gallo
Walker Weickel

AI
06-02-2012, 05:05 PM
I've been reading quite a bit about him, solid frame, velocity and projects to have 3 plus pitches. Sign me up.

RedSox>Yankees
06-02-2012, 06:15 PM
Starwalt is going to be an awfully tough sign however. I think there's a 70+% chance he's going to Stanford. And with the new CBA rules in effect, we can't go massively over slot like we used to.

AI
06-02-2012, 06:19 PM
Wasn't talking about him in my last post, was talking about Weickel.

RedSox>Yankees
06-02-2012, 06:24 PM
Wasn't talking about him in my last post, was talking about Weickel.

I know that, but you mentioned him earlier

Sweet_Caroline
06-02-2012, 06:43 PM
It would be cool if Gioloto fell because of his medicals like Ranuado did but that doesn't seem likely.

GrkGawdofWalkz
06-03-2012, 01:25 PM
Nick Williams is the guy I have my eye on for a later round pick. The other guy I really like is Nelson Rodriguez. They are going to be project guys however there ceiling is incredible.

For the 24th pick i am not to sure who I'd like us to grab. I really like Gavin Cecchini, but it doesn't look like hes going to be there for us. After reading that article I kinda like Gallo/Roach. Its a shame there isn't a Matt Barnes again this year for us.

The 31st pick is another im not to sure on. I'd love to get Eflin but idk if he's going to be there either. I don't even know if he'd be there at 24.

My top players I like in this draft are..

Nick Williams
Zach Eflin
Andrew Heaney
Gavin Cecchini
Daniel Starwalt(Thanks to whoever first opened my eyes to him on here)
Nelson Rodriguez
Luke Bard
and
Nolan Fontana

Loved what I saw in Eflin minus is release angle. Love Starwalt, Cecchini, Bard, Seager. Not convinced on Fontana. He's a very meh player. I want Marcus Stroman. Carlos Correa is the best player in this draft easily!

JMP83
06-03-2012, 02:20 PM
I'd bet easy money that Starwalt's going to college. Stanford guy's don't come cheap, so unless you pick him Day 1 he's likely gone.

I'm expecting a HS bat at 24. DJ Davis, Tanner Rahier, Stryker Trahan, Addison Russell or my personal favorite, Corey Seager.

JMP83
06-03-2012, 02:22 PM
Would also recommend Alex Speier's new podcast with Jim Callis of BaseballAmerica, premier draft site:

http://audio.weei.com/a/57220330/minor-details-ep-24-draft-preview-with-jim-callis-baseball-america.htm

Nomar
06-03-2012, 03:24 PM
I'd bet easy money that Starwalt's going to college. Stanford guy's don't come cheap, so unless you pick him Day 1 he's likely gone.

I'm expecting a HS bat at 24. DJ Davis, Tanner Rahier, Stryker Trahan, Addison Russell or my personal favorite, Corey Seager.

Seager looks good, but hes pretty much guaranteed to be a 3rd baseman. Trahan looks solid, but who knows if they go with a catcher again in this year's first round.

I was thinking pitcher first pick, Joey Gallo (1B) with our second pick.

RedSox>Yankees
06-03-2012, 04:54 PM
Minor League Ball's mock (John Sickels' site):

24) Lucas Sims
31) Matt Smoral

2 high school arms, interesting.

RedSox>Yankees
06-03-2012, 05:26 PM
Gavin Cecchini on himself:

I think every part of my game is my strength. I can run, I can field, I can hit for power, for average, I’m a five-tool player.

avrpatsfan
06-03-2012, 06:06 PM
Any possibility he drops to us? Having the Cecchini brothers would be awesome.

RedSox>Yankees
06-03-2012, 06:13 PM
Any possibility he drops to us? Having the Cecchini brothers would be awesome.

Naah, don't see it happening. I can't see him sliding past the Nationals, they pick 16th.

avrpatsfan
06-03-2012, 06:24 PM
Does he have high bonus demands?

RedSox>Yankees
06-03-2012, 06:33 PM
Does he have high bonus demands?

I believe he'll sign, but he's just too good to drop that far.

avrpatsfan
06-03-2012, 06:39 PM
I know that, but I was thinking if he was considered a tough sign, he could drop to us. Just a pipe dream, I guess...

AI
06-03-2012, 07:29 PM
With their first pick, the Boston Red Sox select Walker Weickel/Daniel Stalwart :drool:

Nomar
06-03-2012, 08:12 PM
Stalwart first round would be a mistake IMO.

I would rather see them draft Roache with their first pick. That would be like the JBJr pick because his stock has fallen due to injury.

If we dont leave the first round with either Roache or Gallo ill be annoyed.

NE Sportsfan
06-03-2012, 08:13 PM
With their first pick, the Boston Red Sox select Walker Weickel/Daniel Stalwart :drool:

I think Stalwart would be a huge reach at that spot. He's a day 2 pick IMO.

Nomar
06-03-2012, 08:21 PM
I think Stalwart would be a huge reach at that spot. He's a day 2 pick IMO.

x2

It would be nice to get him day 2, but he probably wont sign if drafted then. Its best to just stay away from him this year.

JMP83
06-03-2012, 08:42 PM
I know that, but I was thinking if he was considered a tough sign, he could drop to us. Just a pipe dream, I guess...

I feel like if he wanted good money he would get picked by the Cardinals or, more likely, the Blue Jays. They both pick before the Sox and have larger draft bonus pools to sign him with.

RedSox>Yankees
06-04-2012, 05:08 AM
With their first pick, the Boston Red Sox select Walker Weickel/Daniel Stalwart :drool:

Stalwart isn't good enough to warrant the 24th overall selection. He's got good tools, but his results have been mediocre. I want us to pick him, but not in the first round.

RedSox>Yankees
06-04-2012, 06:39 AM
Almost zero Red Sox draft rumors, might make it all the more exciting.

AI
06-04-2012, 06:53 AM
#24: Gallo, Giolito, Smoral, Eflin
#31: Seager, Weickel, Roache
Sandwich Round: Virant, Starwalt, etc

I'd jizz if we somehow got Giolito, Seager and Weickel with our first 3 picks.

RedSox>Yankees
06-04-2012, 07:09 AM
My hopes:

24) Roache
31) College pitcher
37) Eflin, Hensley, Watson, Smoral or Weickel

JMP83
06-04-2012, 12:06 PM
#24: Gallo, Giolito, Smoral, Eflin
#31: Seager, Weickel, Roache
Sandwich Round: Virant, Starwalt, etc

I'd jizz if we somehow got Giolito, Seager and Weickel with our first 3 picks.

I like those three a lot, but I doubt it. I can't imagine the Sox will draft three high school players in a row to start their draft.

Not to mention Giolito is getting heavy play for the Cards, who have two picks before we even have our first.

Vincent33
06-04-2012, 03:53 PM
For some reason, I'm drawn to Nolan Fontana the SS from Florida. I think its the young man's name. Just has an awesome sound to it. Petty and kind of stupid, but I had the same feeling after Boston's 2004 draft and their 2nd round pick of Dustin Pedroia. Just a couple of real good baseball names.

:sigh: I feel ashamed.

j-bay
06-04-2012, 04:13 PM
lance mccullers seems like the type of person i could see us drafting. He probally won't fall though

Nomar
06-04-2012, 06:36 PM
Roache and Seager wont be on the board at 31. I bet Seattle takes Seager and Milwaukee takes Roache.

Celtic AL
06-04-2012, 07:27 PM
the Stros picked the SS from PR & the twins picked Byron Buxton

Nomar
06-04-2012, 07:36 PM
:pray: Gallo please

Celtic AL
06-04-2012, 07:43 PM
Mark Appel just fell into theo & the Cubs Lap

Celtic AL
06-04-2012, 07:48 PM
wow they didnt pick him.

Nomar
06-04-2012, 08:01 PM
Appel getting Aaron Rodgersed.

Soxfan85
06-04-2012, 08:01 PM
Mark Appel goes to the Pirates

Nomar
06-04-2012, 08:02 PM
And he ends up in Pittsburgh. Someone put him on suicide watch.

Station 13
06-04-2012, 08:03 PM
Pirates been ****ing crazy the last few draft years.

Celtic AL
06-04-2012, 08:04 PM
And he ends up in Pittsburgh. Someone put him on suicide watch.

not so fast. hes joining a farm system that is stacked with top notch prospect pitching

Nomar
06-04-2012, 08:05 PM
not so fast. hes joining a farm system that is stacked with top notch prospect pitching

Im just messing around. The draft has been their best friend last few years anyway. Getting a possible 1st pick at 8 is great for them.

B'sCeltsPatsSox
06-04-2012, 08:18 PM
Let Cecchini fall please.

Nomar
06-04-2012, 08:23 PM
Mets going with Cecchini watch

Nomar
06-04-2012, 08:24 PM
There it is

j-bay
06-04-2012, 08:24 PM
keithlaw ‏@keithlaw
Mets on Gavin Cecchini here.

****!

Station 13
06-04-2012, 08:25 PM
**** you muts

Nomar
06-04-2012, 08:48 PM
Thank god Naquin didnt fall to us. Do not like him at all.

Hopefully the Yankees dont get a chance to take Seager either.

RedSox>Yankees
06-04-2012, 09:05 PM
Five picks to go and Stroman, Stratton, Schaffer, Wacha, Marrero, McCullers, Gallo are all on the board.

Celtic AL
06-04-2012, 09:08 PM
Stroman from duke is what i want but i doubt he'll get passed by the cards Giants and Jays

Celtic AL
06-04-2012, 09:26 PM
**** the bluejays i *****ing hate Them!

Station 13
06-04-2012, 09:27 PM
McCullers please.......

Nomar
06-04-2012, 09:28 PM
Were getting a great pick regardless. Hope we get Gallo, but by looking at whos available still, we may be able to get him at 31. Tough call. Id probably go Marrero here but still dont know.

JMP83
06-04-2012, 09:30 PM
Just please no Marrero...

Nomar
06-04-2012, 09:32 PM
**** it sticking with my gut go Gallo

RedSox>Yankees
06-04-2012, 09:32 PM
McCullers, Gallo, Marrero, HS pitcher?

Celtic AL
06-04-2012, 09:35 PM
gotta go with McCullers

Nomar
06-04-2012, 09:37 PM
Ehh, wanted Gallo. Another Iglesias.

JMP83
06-04-2012, 09:38 PM
Ugh

bagwell368
06-04-2012, 09:38 PM
sorry... Marrero

Celtic AL
06-04-2012, 09:38 PM
i like the Marrero pick

Station 13
06-04-2012, 09:39 PM
wut

goshhhjosh
06-04-2012, 09:40 PM
MLBN keeps on stating that his bat needs to come around...his batting average dropped this past year.

Celtic AL
06-04-2012, 09:41 PM
i like him alot

Nomar
06-04-2012, 09:41 PM
Not really necessary with Iglesias and Vinicio already in the system.

IMO thats probably the worst pick of the draft along with the Jays taking Davis. None of the picks seem flat out bad.

avrpatsfan
06-04-2012, 09:42 PM
I like the pick, though I would have picked differently.

Celtic AL
06-04-2012, 09:44 PM
Not really necessary with Iglesias and Vinicio already in the system.

IMO thats probably the worst pick of the draft along with the Jays taking Davis. None of the picks seem flat out bad.

i disagree

Celtic AL
06-04-2012, 09:46 PM
im soso on Mcullers

goshhhjosh
06-04-2012, 09:46 PM
I'm just not sure about a guy who hit .280 in college. They keep on building up his defense and are hoping that his bat comes around. I'll reserve judgment, but like AVR said I think I would have picked differently.

Nomar
06-04-2012, 09:46 PM
The way i look at it is like this:

First pick, we go with a safe pick. The Sox also have always picked players who have come off of unspectacular years, look at Bradley last year. And Arizona State has done us well in the past according to our MVP second baseman.

I think the next two picks will be high upside guys. A little more risk, a lot more potential.

B'sCeltsPatsSox
06-04-2012, 09:49 PM
I'll wait before making a judgement. Some said he could have gone in the top 10 so...:shrug:

JMP83
06-04-2012, 09:50 PM
Not really necessary with Iglesias and Vinicio already in the system.

IMO thats probably the worst pick of the draft along with the Jays taking Davis. None of the picks seem flat out bad.

Not even close to the worst, even if I'm not a big fan. Ramsey, Travieso, maybe Naquin.

That said, would have preferred someone like Shaffer. Didn't see them drafting a HS arm. Could see that at 31 though, especially if McCullers falls.

corky831
06-04-2012, 09:50 PM
marrero was projected top 10 before the draft....nice pick, not too much risk

Nomar
06-04-2012, 09:50 PM
Im gonna be so sad if Gallo gets drafted lol

JMP83
06-04-2012, 09:51 PM
I'll wait before making a judgement. Some said he could have gone in the top 10 so...:shrug:

He was a Top 5/10 ranked player going into the season, and while no one questions the solid defense, his bat, well, sucked for a Top 10 guy this season. .340 OBP for a guy who should be dominating college with that kind of talent. Let's just hope it comes around.

Celtic AL
06-04-2012, 09:52 PM
if he hits 280 & has a nice glove thats better than a guy who has a glove but can hit under 270

goshhhjosh
06-04-2012, 09:52 PM
MikeAndrewsSP That being said, most national scouting services had Marrero in top 15 players in the country. Even top 5 coming into 2012.


MikeAndrewsSP #RedSox fans may not want to hear that Marrero has been tagged with the "non-chalant" label. #jddrew


SPWill @IanCundall Good call. Don't get the pessimism behind the pick. Thin it was great value pick. Take the best player available. Every time.


We shall see...

Nomar
06-04-2012, 09:54 PM
If Gallo goes to NYY..... hide all babies.

Celtic AL
06-04-2012, 09:55 PM
Last year Jackie Bradley had a down year in his final year in college even tho he was hurt

AI
06-04-2012, 10:00 PM
Don't like our first pick at all.

Celtic AL
06-04-2012, 10:02 PM
why is every one gonna be a downer that we draft some one who isn't a raw HS pitcher?

JMP83
06-04-2012, 10:05 PM
Last year Jackie Bradley had a down year in his final year in college even tho he was hurt

I think JBJr. being hurt is important to remember. Marrero...well, we know he'll be above average to plus defensively, so that's good. If he can be an average hitter it's a good pick. Don't think the power will ever be there though.

It's just a weak draft. There are no Josh Bell's or Swihart's that I can see at this point. Gallo has a ton of power but he's a 1B and may not have the plate discipline to make the majors. All the others have flaws.

JMP83
06-04-2012, 10:09 PM
why is every one gonna be a downer that we draft some one who isn't a raw HS pitcher?

Honestly, you just can't dream on college guys that aren't Top 10 talents. They're kinda boring, even if they are solid picks. You can dream on HS picks, especially pitchers, each one is a potential ace, even if HS pitcher is probably the riskiest player to draft in terms of making the majors.

Nomar
06-04-2012, 10:10 PM
Yeah college players, especially like Marrero, are very hesitant picks for sure.

Celtic AL
06-04-2012, 10:11 PM
I think JBJr. being hurt is important to remember. Marrero...well, we know he'll be above average to plus defensively, so that's good. If he can be an average hitter it's a good pick. Don't think the power will ever be there though.

It's just a weak draft. There are no Josh Bell's or Swihart's that I can see at this point. Gallo has a ton of power but he's a 1B and may not have the plate discipline to make the majors. All the others have flaws.


Honestly, you just can't dream on college guys that aren't Top 10 talents. They're kinda boring, even if they are solid picks. You can dream on HS picks, especially pitchers, each one is a potential ace, even if HS pitcher is probably the riskiest player to draft in terms of making the majors.

well i hope you're wrong.

B'sCeltsPatsSox
06-04-2012, 10:12 PM
Roache is gone. I wanted him because we nearly have the same last name:laugh2:

AI
06-04-2012, 10:12 PM
Another light hitting defensive SS... Pants party

Nomar
06-04-2012, 10:13 PM
Lets go! Get Gallo lock him up!

Nomar
06-04-2012, 10:14 PM
Another light hitting defensive SS... Pants party

:laugh2:

Nomar
06-04-2012, 10:16 PM
Roache, "i thought it was gonna be Boston." Interesting.

AI
06-04-2012, 10:19 PM
Brian Johnson? WTF

B'sCeltsPatsSox
06-04-2012, 10:19 PM
Outrage is about to ensue:laugh2:

Nomar
06-04-2012, 10:20 PM
Wow **** this this is ridiculous im not feeling these picks at all.

Station 13
06-04-2012, 10:20 PM
lol Joe saunders comparison.

AI
06-04-2012, 10:20 PM
**** you Cherington, I miss Theo.

JMP83
06-04-2012, 10:21 PM
Okay, now I'm done....

Nomar
06-04-2012, 10:23 PM
Are you serious though, like honestly? Thats a flat out bad pick we couldve gotten him with our comp pick. Come on man im not in the front office but thats ridiculous. Were the losers of this draft.

JMP83
06-04-2012, 10:24 PM
I've come around on Marrero, fine, thinking they would go upside with 31 and 37, now Johnson....

AI
06-04-2012, 10:25 PM
****ing CBA and it's new slotting system has screwed us big time.

Celtic AL
06-04-2012, 10:25 PM
Wow **** this this is ridiculous im not feeling these picks at all.
Cut them now!!!!

**** you Cherington, I miss Theo.

:rolleyes:

Nomar
06-04-2012, 10:25 PM
-__________- bye

corky831
06-04-2012, 10:26 PM
haha what a **** pick

JMP83
06-04-2012, 10:26 PM
Are you serious though, like honestly? Thats a flat out bad pick we couldve gotten him with our comp pick. Come on man im not in the front office but thats ridiculous. Were the losers of this draft.

Cherington's going for safer college picks now, don't think that makes us the losers of the draft. Let's see what they do at 37 at least.

AI
06-04-2012, 10:27 PM
Our supp. pick better be McCullers or Weickel, I'm about to rage.

Station 13
06-04-2012, 10:28 PM
We're drafting bench players to befriend with MacDime. :laugh:

grandsalami
06-04-2012, 10:28 PM
All you guys saying **** you BC, you need to remember that this is a new draft under a new CBA, something THEO DID NOT HAVE TO DEAL WITH.. we can't throw money at players like we did last year without facing punishment..... they need to go with safer picks and perhaps one "BIG signing" if you want to blame anyone, blame the new CBA

JMP83
06-04-2012, 10:29 PM
Maybe they're saving money for Starwalt on Day 2!!

AI
06-04-2012, 10:31 PM
I'd be so happy if that happened.

Celtic AL
06-04-2012, 10:33 PM
Our supp. pick better be McCullers or Weickel, I'm about to rage.

or you riot? lol :facepalm:

Celtic AL
06-04-2012, 10:34 PM
im waiting a year and half to judge these picks. not now.

corky831
06-04-2012, 10:40 PM
true about the CBA, i almost forgot about that slot ********

JMP83
06-04-2012, 10:41 PM
McCullers, Weickel, Gallo, Rahier all options here at 37 still on the board...

AI
06-04-2012, 10:41 PM
McCullers, Weickel or Smoral here or I riot.

JMP83
06-04-2012, 10:41 PM
Also Smoral

AI
06-04-2012, 10:42 PM
Holy ****ing crap.

AI
06-04-2012, 10:43 PM
I'm about to murder kittens

JMP83
06-04-2012, 10:43 PM
Okay now I just think Cherington is terrified of HS players in general, especially pitchers.

Station 13
06-04-2012, 10:44 PM
Watch Pirates go after McCullers in the 2nd round.

AI
06-04-2012, 10:45 PM
I officially hate Cherington

Celtic AL
06-04-2012, 10:46 PM
Holy ****ing crap.


I'm about to murder kittens

lol

corky831
06-04-2012, 10:47 PM
****ing Pat Light outta the NEC? Lmao thats the conference I played in and no offense, but highest these kids should be picked are 5th round lol

Nomar
06-04-2012, 10:47 PM
BC has the worlds smallest testicles. night

grandsalami
06-04-2012, 10:47 PM
I officially hate Cherington

FOR ****S SAKE, ITS NOT HIS FAULT, HAVE YOU READ THE CBA IN REGARds to the draft? you can't just throw money at players like theo did

corky831
06-04-2012, 10:47 PM
at best

j-bay
06-04-2012, 10:48 PM
the kid we took with the 37th has some potential

JMP83
06-04-2012, 10:48 PM
What I'm getting out of this draft: solid value, should be big leaguers in some form, lack upside...

Celtic AL
06-04-2012, 10:48 PM
i will admit that im not high on are 2nd 1st rounder

AI
06-04-2012, 10:49 PM
Astros get Correa and McCullers, wow.

grandsalami
06-04-2012, 10:51 PM
Astros get Correa and McCullers, wow.

and if they sign both of them they will be taxed Very heavily

j-bay
06-04-2012, 10:51 PM
Daniel's brother going to the twins

JMP83
06-04-2012, 10:52 PM
FOR ****S SAKE, ITS NOT HIS FAULT, HAVE YOU READ THE CBA IN REGARds to the draft? you can't just throw money at players like theo did

Nah, it's partially his fault. I would imagine they could afford a McCullers or Efline or Weickel if they wanted to.

I just think Cherington wants to go fairly safe, both in terms of talent and signability. None of these guys so far should be hard signs, and there might be some money to spread around later. Nothing like drafting a HS pitcher at 24 and have him flame out in High-A. For his first draft Cherington wanted to avoid all of that.

j-bay
06-04-2012, 10:53 PM
The kid from Jersey did went 20-0

Station 13
06-04-2012, 10:53 PM
Daniel's brother going to the twins

Bard? We drafted him 2 year ago right?

Sweet_Caroline
06-04-2012, 10:53 PM
The Astros got compensation for losing Clint Barmes? I'm glad they fixed that with the new CBA.

TedWilliams9
06-04-2012, 10:53 PM
As Gator fan, I have seen a lot of Brian Johnson and the guy is a beast.

Celtic AL
06-04-2012, 10:56 PM
i just dont see whats so bad about these picks. like i said earlier i like the Kid from ASU who i think is gonna surprise people. & Pat lite who looks like he has some gas! after all this draft is weak so im not upset

Celtic AL
06-04-2012, 10:59 PM
Astros get Correa and McCullers, wow.

im not high on McCullers imo

JMP83
06-04-2012, 10:59 PM
The draft is definitely weak, so it looks worse when compared to what we got last year, that's true.

Sox draft has just been boring so far. Not horrible, but boring. That said, I suspect they grab more than a few of the second tier signability guys tomorrow.

Towelie
06-04-2012, 11:00 PM
wow, I'm sorry but as if you guys actually know anything about these guys right now! It's not Ben drafting, it's his scouting team the same scouting team that Theo had.

Celtic AL
06-04-2012, 11:02 PM
wow, I'm sorry but as if you guys actually know anything about these guys right now! It's not Ben drafting, it's his scouting team the same scouting team that Theo had.

x2 very well said my man!

-Lavigne43-
06-04-2012, 11:11 PM
It sucks not getting any of the highest ceiling players, but nothing special fell to us. We have one of the biggest cash pools available, and all 3 of those guys sound like they could sign below slot. They will spend the money. It looks like their strategy is to get more quantity overslot instead of spending most of the money on 2 players and picking crap college players the rest of the way. They can't do what they did in the past and a lot of good major league talent has come from the middle rounds.

JMP83
06-04-2012, 11:11 PM
wow, I'm sorry but as if you guys actually know anything about these guys right now! It's not Ben drafting, it's his scouting team the same scouting team that Theo had.

Ben will have final say on the draft picks, especially the early ones. He's seen several of these players, trust me.

That said, love the Padres draft this year.

JMP83
06-04-2012, 11:15 PM
Damn, like the Jays draft a lot too.

-Lavigne43-
06-04-2012, 11:24 PM
Damn, like the Jays draft a lot too.

They have to sign them too. If they manage to do that they won't be able to afford much else.

TedWilliams9
06-05-2012, 12:19 AM
Johnson can mash at the plate too, take a look at him this weekend in the Super Regionals.

JMP83
06-05-2012, 07:45 AM
They have to sign them too. If they manage to do that they won't be able to afford much else.

Very true, although I think they sign all or most of them. That said, many teams likely blew through large chunks of their budget tonight, and will be playing it safe for the rest of the draft. That doesn't apply to the Sox, who kinda took the opposite route.

Some names to watch for on Day 2:

Anthony Alford (very hard sign, like Josh Bell last year, but super athletic and toolsy)
Tanner Rahier (not sure why he slipped)
Hunter Virant
Carson Kelly
Ty Buttrey
Walker Buehler
Daniel Starwalt
James Marvel (draft him for his name alone)
Wyatt Mathisen
C.J. Hinojosa (tough sign going into the year, then was injured)
Kyle Twomey
Chris Beck (a top college talent that had a poor year, much like Marrero)

Towelie
06-05-2012, 07:51 AM
Ben will have final say on the draft picks, especially the early ones. He's seen several of these players, trust me.

That said, love the Padres draft this year.

Yes, he does but is it really a bad thing going for guys that are supposed to be quick the majors but pretty much a No.3 or 4 in the majors? Not every pick has to be high ceiling low floor. Everyone is saying BJ is going to move through the system very quick, thats not a bad thing considering our high ceiling guys are mainlt AA or below.

JMP83
06-05-2012, 09:41 AM
Wouldn't be surprised if they saved anywhere between 500k and 1million on the first day to spread around for today and tomorrow.

goshhhjosh
06-05-2012, 11:03 AM
Write-ups on Marrero, Johnson, and Light per Soxprospects.com:


With the 24th pick in the draft, the Red Sox have selected Deven Marrero, a shortstop from Arizona State.


Marrero, a 6-foot-1, 194 lb. shortstop, was considered the top college position player in the draft after last season’s Cape Cod League. The two-time All Pac-12 selection hit .284/.340/.346 with four home runs and 33 RBI for the Sun Devils this season, a year after hitting .313/.340/.434 as a sophomore.


After last season, he starred for the Cotuit Kettleers of the Cape Cod League, hitting .326 in 12 games before leaving the Cape to join Team USA. Marrero led Team USA with 19 hits and 14 RBI in 14 games.


As a freshman at Arizona State—when the old, hitter-friendly aluminum bats were still used—Marrero hit .392/.442/.628 in 37 games. He hit .306 in 29 games for the Kettleers following his freshman campaign in Tempe.


Defensively, Marrero is projected to stay at shortstop. According to Baseball America, Marrero, who was selected in the 17th round in 2009 by Cincinnati, has performed inconsistently since the NCAA switched to composite bats. He has above-average arm strength and above-average speed, and profiles to have be a gap hitter professionally.


Under the new collective bargaining agreement, the 24th pick has been allotted $1.75 million towards Boston’s bonus pool. Boston has $6,884,800 allotted for the first ten rounds.




With the 31st overall pick in the draft, the Red Sox have selected Brian Johnson, a left-handed pitcher from the University of Florida.


Johnson, a 6'3" southpaw was known as one of the top two-way players in the country as he had success both on the mound and at the plate. He went 8-4 with a 3.56 ERA with 68 strikeouts in 86.0 innings pitched. At the plate, Johnson hit .310/.350/.455 with 5 home runs and 40 RBI.


Known for his control, Johnson throws a 88-91 mph fastball with a slider, curve and changeup. He profiles as a back of the rotation starter who must maintain his penchant for throwing strikes and having solid control in order to be successful.

Drafted out of Cocoa Beach High School in the 27th round of the 2009 draft by the Los Angeles Dodgers. Johnson pitched for the Yarmouth-Dennis Red Sox in the Cape Cod League last summer, compiling a 2-0 record with a 4.30 ERA and 19 strikeouts and 4 walks in 14.2 innings.


A two-time member of the USA Collegiate National Team, the hope is that Johnson's will develop further as a pitcher as he focuses his full attention on the mound.
The slot bonus for the 31st overall pick is $1,575,000. The Red Sox have been given a pool of $6,884,800 for all of their picks in the first ten rounds of the draft.



With the 37th overall pick in the draft, the Red Sox have selected Pat Light, a right-handed pitcher from Monmouth University.


Listed at 6'6'', 200 lb., Light's stock coming into the year largely relied on pure arm strength with a fastball that sits 90-96. However, this season his slider really began to develop according to Baseball America, which lead to him dominating the competition. He finished the season with a 8-3 record, 2.40 ERA, 102 strikeouts and a mere 16 walks over 101.1 innings. His performance earned him Collegiate Baseball/Louisville Slugger All-American Third Team honors.


The development of the slider along with the 2012 performance elevated his stock and made teams believe that his future could be in the back end of a starting rotation. However, his floor and quicker route to the major leagues could be as a late inning reliever where his fastball would play up even further.
Light was originally drafted in the 28th round in 2008 by the Minnesota Twins, but the New Jersey native ultimately chose not to sign and to attend in-state Monmouth University.


The bonus amount for the 37th pick is listed at $1,394,300 leaving open the possibility that Light, a college junior, could sign for less than that and leave the Red Sox with some money to allocate to another 2012 draft pick.


Who knows...

Melo15
06-05-2012, 11:21 AM
I'm not sure why everyone is upset, the draft is far from over. Almost everyone complaining has acknowledged the new cba would change our draft approach yet you're surprised we're not following our old norms? Marrero was a great value and Johnson/Light are both safe projectable pitchers that should move through the system quickly. Since we didn't go after any really tough signs we're now in a position to go after talent that falls in rounds 2-9. It's certainly an understandable approach.

Celtic AL
06-05-2012, 11:31 AM
I wonder if the yankees had marrero high on there draft borad since they have no future replacement for jeter

Celtic AL
06-05-2012, 11:40 AM
I'm not sure why everyone is upset, the draft is far from over. Almost everyone complaining has acknowledged the new cba would change our draft approach yet you're surprised we're not following our old norms? Marrero was a great value and Johnson/Light are both safe projectable pitchers that should move through the system quickly. Since we didn't go after any really tough signs we're now in a position to go after talent that falls in rounds 2-9. It's certainly an understandable approach. :nod: very well said melo!

Celtic AL
06-05-2012, 12:56 PM
Sox draft jamie callahan in the 2nd round

corky831
06-05-2012, 01:06 PM
Callahan is a projectable righty who has the chance to have three plus pitches. He has a fastball that sits in the low 90s, touching 94-95 mph, but doesn't have a lot of movement. He also has a good 12-6 curveball that could be his best pitch, along with a promising changeup that has the potential to be a plus pitch. His slider needs work as it is inconsistent, and if his changeup keeps developing with his command, Callahan could be a very interesting prospect with significant upside.

corky831
06-05-2012, 01:36 PM
Our third rounder Austin Maddox RHP Florida:

A former two-way standout, Maddox's hitting days will be over soon as it's clear his future is on the mound as a reliever. Florida's closer has an above-average fastball that he can dial up to plus, hitting 93 mph consistently. It has above-average sink when down in the zone and run/bore when it's up. Maddox's breaking ball is slurvy, but is a tick above-average at times. He does have a changeup, but it's below-average and it's easy to see it being shelved at the next level. He throws strikes, more control than command, and has the kind of mentality to pitch at the back end of the bullpen. Maddox began his Florida career only hitting, so it's been a full transformation to a guy who will be pitching only as professional. He has the chance to pitch in short relief in the big leagues in the near future.

JMP83
06-05-2012, 01:42 PM
I think Toronto is just taking all the high upside HS players so other teams don't draft them. I can't see any way they can sign all of these guys. Even if they punted the rest of the draft I don't think they can afford Alford AND their previous picks.

corky831
06-05-2012, 02:17 PM
Well we just picked one in Ty Buttrey RHP out of HS...ranked 38 on BA's list, grabbed him in the fourth:

When a pitcher kicks off a Draft season with a noticeable jump in velocity, it's going to attract attention. Buttrey did just that, causing an influx of scouts to the Charlotte area. The big right-hander was up to the mid-90s at the start of the season. While he didn't maintain that, he was still sitting in the low 90s as the spring progressed. He's shown the ability to run it in on hitters' hands or cut it away. His breaking ball -- a curve with a good, long break to it -- is also improved. His changeup isn't as good, but it should work as a usable third option once he starts throwing it more. Tall and long-limbed, Buttrey does have some issues with repeating his delivery, and thus, with his overall command. But considering he's still a bit raw, his size, arm strength and potential will have many teams interested in the early going.

corky831
06-05-2012, 02:20 PM
I really liked our last three picks, I also like the Marrero one as well....draft is shaping up much better if we can sign all these guys

Celtic AL
06-05-2012, 02:47 PM
Well we just picked one in Ty Buttrey RHP out of HS...ranked 38 on BA's list, grabbed him in the fourth:

When a pitcher kicks off a Draft season with a noticeable jump in velocity, it's going to attract attention. Buttrey did just that, causing an influx of scouts to the Charlotte area. The big right-hander was up to the mid-90s at the start of the season. While he didn't maintain that, he was still sitting in the low 90s as the spring progressed. He's shown the ability to run it in on hitters' hands or cut it away. His breaking ball -- a curve with a good, long break to it -- is also improved. His changeup isn't as good, but it should work as a usable third option once he starts throwing it more. Tall and long-limbed, Buttrey does have some issues with repeating his delivery, and thus, with his overall command. But considering he's still a bit raw, his size, arm strength and potential will have many teams interested in the early going. steal imo and a local kid too!

Green_Monster
06-05-2012, 03:03 PM
5th rounder Mike Augliera

RHP - 6'00" 200lbs - DOB: 06/08/90

goshhhjosh
06-05-2012, 03:25 PM
With their fifth round pick in the draft, the Red Sox have selected Mike Augliera, a right-handed pitcher from Binghamton University.

Augliera impressed scouts when he pitched a one-hitter in the semi-finals of the America East tournament, striking out 7, and setting the Binghamton record with his 23rd career win. The outing capped an impressive season, in which Augliera led the nation in K/BB ratio, striking out 83 and walking only 7 in 82.2 innings pitched.

The six-foot tall, 200 pound right-hander has a plus curveball, rated as the best breaking pitch among all New York State players by Perfect Game ,which also rated him as having the best pitchability in the state. He is the first college Senior taken by the Red Sox in the 2012 draft.

Per Soxprospects.com.

RedSox>Yankees
06-05-2012, 04:49 PM
There are some good players still available:

50. Walker Buehler, RHP, Clay HS, Lexington, Ky. [+]


53. Hunter Virant, LHP, Camarillo (Calif.) HS [+]


56. Freddy Avis, RHP, Menlo School, Atherton, Calif. [+]


59. Jameis Winston, OF, Hueytown (Ala.) HS [+]


70. C.J. Hinojosa, SS, Klein-Collins HS, Spring, Texas [+]


73. James Kaprielian, RHP, Beckman HS, Irvine, Calif. [+]


74. Derick Velasquez, RHP, Merced (Calif.) JC [+]


99. Trey Williams, 3B, Valencia (Calif.) HS [+]

RedSox>Yankees
06-05-2012, 05:19 PM
Callahan, who signed to play at South Carolina, will bypass college and sign with the Red Sox. He will fly to Boston on Wednesday for a physical and leave Monday for Fort Myers, Fla., and begin his pro career with the Gulf Coast League Red Sox, Boston's rookie league affiliate.


Callahan was ranked as Baseball America’s 144th best prospect in this year’s draft and is coming off his best high school season. He went 7-1 with a save, a 0.89 ERA and 113 strikeouts in 50 innings. He also hit .408 with five homers and 32 RBI.

Last week, Callahan was named the Gatorade South Carolina Baseball Player of the Year. He also made all-state the last two seasons and was selected to play in the North Carolina-South Carolina select game next week in Myrtle Beach.



http://www2.scnow.com/sports/pee-dee/2012/jun/05/2/red-sox-pick-dillons-callahan-second-round-mlb-dra-ar-3920141/

AI
06-05-2012, 05:39 PM
Love that we've picked up some nice arms.

RedSox>Yankees
06-05-2012, 05:41 PM
Starwalt still out there AI

Celtic AL
06-05-2012, 06:36 PM
Must be a big money guy

AI
06-05-2012, 06:49 PM
Houston takes Virant in the 11th, if they sign him, wow.

AI
06-05-2012, 06:59 PM
We've drafted like 5 SS' so far, what gives?

RedSox>Yankees
06-05-2012, 07:03 PM
We've drafted like 5 SS' so far, what gives?

3, nothing too spectacular. Only 1 OF though.

AI
06-05-2012, 07:07 PM
Give me Starwalt Cherington, cmon.

Green_Monster
06-05-2012, 07:19 PM
1st: Deven Marrero - SS - JR
1st: Brian Johnson - LHP - JR
Comp: Pat Light - RHP - JR
2nd: Jamie Callahan - RHP - HS
3rd: Austin Maddox - RHP - JR
4th: Ty Buttrey - RHP - HS
5th: Mike Augliera - RHP - SR
6th: Justin Haley - RHP - JR
7th: Kyle Kraus - RHP - SR
8th: Nathan Minnich - 1B - SR
9th: Michael Miller - SS - 5S
10th: James Watkins - C - SR
11th: Jamal Martin - CF - HS
12th: Mike Meyers - SS - HS
13th: Jeffrey Wendelken - RHP - J1
14th: Dylan Chavez - LHP - JR
15th: Carson Fulmer - RHP - HS

AI
06-05-2012, 07:23 PM
10/16 picks have been pitchers.

JMP83
06-05-2012, 07:46 PM
Chavez and Fullmer are both good picks to end the day on.

Can you tell they thought our pitching depth in the minors is thin?

RedSox>Yankees
06-05-2012, 07:48 PM
I like the Buttrey, Maddox, Callahan, Martin, Chavez and Fulmer picks.

Good 2nd day. Some good players are still out there.

Melo15
06-05-2012, 07:50 PM
I'm very happy with our draft so far.

Melo15
06-05-2012, 07:51 PM
Also, I'm interested to see what happens with Toronto. No chance they can sign all those guys.

Celtic AL
06-05-2012, 08:03 PM
solid draft imo

Ty Buttrey is a 1round-comp talent, Austin Maddox is a sleeper and Jamie Callahan & Mike Augliera are high ceiling projects.

AI
06-05-2012, 08:23 PM
Hope we can sign Fullmer.

Celtic AL
06-05-2012, 08:25 PM
great read about Deven marrero!


BOSTON -- Mike Roberts coached at the highest levels of college baseball, having led the University of North Carolina for 24 years. His son, Brian, is an All-Star second baseman for the Baltimore Orioles. He works for the Athletes Performance Institute, where Dustin Pedroia, Jacoby Ellsbury and Kevin Youkilis, among many pro athletes, have trained.

He still coaches baseball in the Cape League, where three of his players from the Cotuit Kettleers were taken in the first round Monday in Major League Baseball's amateur draft.


He's the best amateur baseball player on the defensive side I've ever seen in 35 years of coaching. ... I've seen him do things defensively I've never seen another infielder do.

-- Mike Roberts, on Red Sox draft pick Deven Marrero
This is what Mike Roberts says about Deven Marrero, the shortstop from Arizona State University chosen 24th overall by the Red Sox.

"He's the best amateur baseball player on the defensive side I've ever seen in 35 years of coaching," he said Tuesday. "He's Omar Vizquel at 20, 21, except he'll be a better hitter and steal more bases. I've seen him do things defensively I've never seen another infielder do."

Roberts coached Marrero two summers at Cotuit. There's a special bond there.

"I absolutely cherish the young man," said Roberts, a sentiment evidently shared by others in Cotuit, given that the family that hosted Marrero while he played for the Kettleers flew to south Florida to be with him on draft day.

"I'm thrilled beyond words. I feel as happy as the day my own son was drafted," said Roberts.

Still, his judgment of Marrero's skills is not dictated by his affection for the 21-year-old player, who endured a horrific experience in high school (his father was convicted of sexual battery and molestation of two teenage girls) and thrived at Arizona State, where his mother encouraged him to go despite his offer to attend school closer to home.

Roberts, who coached longtime star shortstop Walt Weiss in college -- Weiss was AL Rookie of the Year for Oakland -- and has worked with Carl Crawford as a base-stealing coach, said he delivered the exact assessment to two big-league teams who called him before the draft and were picking ahead of the Red Sox. He said he was shocked that Marrero was still available when the Sox made their pick.


Many will compare Deven Marrero to another highly touted draft pick out of Arizona, Dustin Pedroia. But Marrero is "a much quieter, laidback, reserved young man," says his former coach.
"To me, he should have been in the top five," Roberts said.

Marrero wasn't even the top shortstop drafted Monday. Carlos Correa was taken first overall by the Houston Astros, who made the 17-year-old the highest-drafted player ever out of Puerto Rico. With the 12th pick, the New York Mets selected another high school shortstop, Gavin Cecchini, whose brother, Garin, is a 21-year-old third baseman for Class A Greenville and rated the 11th-best prospect in the Sox organization by SoxProspects.com.

While the respected Baseball America also rated Marrero's defense highly, it raised questions about Marrero's bat -- he hit just .284 this season for ASU, in part because of a sprained ankle -- and his attitude.

"Marrero has been frustrating for scouts this spring, not just because he has underperformed but because he has looked so nonchalant doing it," the publication wrote in its pre-draft rankings. "Scouts say Marrero has played without energy this year and has shown off his above-average arm strength only when he needs to. He has above-average raw speed but doesn't always go at full speed on the bases."

Roberts read those comments.

"Crap," he said. "That's not the young man I know. Whoever bypassed him in the draft, I hope he beats them for the next 10 to 15 years because that's how long I expect he'll be in the big leagues. To me, the Red Sox got the gem of the draft, another (Dustin) Pedroia, another (Jacoby) Ellsbury, a real hidden gem who will get to the big leagues quickest.

"When I first met him in 2010, I thought he was Ty Cobb tough. I'm an old-school, Southern guy and Deven came to me right after the College World Series. I played him 10, 12 days in a row, and while I rarely ask a guy if he wants a day off, he'd played so much I asked him.

"He looked at me with the most sincere look and said, 'Coach, I don't take days off.'"


The easy comparison, of course, is to Pedroia, who like Marrero was an ASU shortstop when the Sox drafted him in the second round in 2004 (65th overall, their first pick in the draft). Different types, Roberts said.

"Deven is more Hank Aaron, Roberto Clemente in terms of being a gifted, rhythmic athlete," he said. "Dustin Pedroia and Brian Roberts put out a lot more energy -- 5-foot-7, 5-8 guys that people have to see it, diving for balls all over the field.

"Devin understands the game, but doesn't flaunt the game. He makes plays like a Robinson Cano. He's a different mentality than Dustin. A much quieter, laidback, reserved young man."

It didn't escape Pedroia that the Red Sox went for another Arizona guy. Tuesday before Boston's game against the Orioles, Pedroia acknowledged the selection of Marrero. "Yeah, I sent him a text message last night," he said.

http://espn.go.com/boston/mlb/story/_/id/8013156/high-praise-boston-red-sox-draft-pick-deven-marrero

quiksilver2491
06-06-2012, 01:09 AM
It was really weird watching the Red Sox draft Pat Light, I've known about him for years now with us being in the same grade and our schools being fierce rivals.

I've partied with him before and have had a few conversations with him. He was a pretty cool guy from what I could remember and really was focused on playing baseball. Easily the best HS pitcher from my area since Rick Porcello a few years back.

AI
06-06-2012, 06:41 AM
Light, Buttrey, Fullmer, Maddox, Callahan, Chavez

If we can sign them all, love our draft so far.

Melo15
06-06-2012, 08:13 AM
Yup, I would be ecstatic if we could sign Fulmer.

RedSoxtober
06-06-2012, 08:42 AM
Round 2: RHP Jamie Callahan (Dillon HS, Dillon, S.C.)
Round 3: RHP Austin Maddox (University of Florida)
Round 4: RHP Ty Buttrey (Providence HS, Charlotte, N.C.)
Round 5: RHP Mike Augliera (Binghamton)
Round 6: RHP Justin Haley (Fresno State)
Round 7: RHP Kyle Kraus (University of Portland)
Round 8: 1B Nathan Minnich (Shepherd University)
Round 9: INF Mike Miller (Cal Poly San Luis Obispo)
Round 10: C J.T. Watkins (Army)
Round 11: OF Jamal Martin (Dwyer HS, West Palm Beach, Fla.)
Round 12: 2B Mike Meyers (Silverado High School, Las Vegas, Nev.)
Round 13: RHP JB Wendelken (Middle Georgia JC)
Round 14: LHP Dylan Chavez (Mississippi)
Round 15: RHP Carson Fulmer (All Saints Academy, Lakeland, Fla.)

Notes: Watkins is the son of Red Sox area scout Danny Watkins ... Augliera, Kraus, Minnich, Miller and Watkins are seniors and therefore have little leverage in negotiations. Because the Red Sox have an MLB-mandated cap of $6.8 million for their first 12 picks, they can use the money saved on those seniors to improve their chances of signing Callahan, Buttrey and Martin. This is a strategy many teams employed, using their picks between rounds 3-11 on some players who aren't necessarily significant prospects who can be signed below the MLB-suggested bonus. Many of these players probably agreed to the parameters of their deals before they were takenBoston Globe

-Lavigne43-
06-06-2012, 02:26 PM
Something I noticed, all of the college arms we took early have really low walk rates, among the best in college.

RedSox>Yankees
06-06-2012, 04:53 PM
Phillies picked Starwalt in the 37th round. I'm 99% sure he goes to college.

AI
06-06-2012, 05:25 PM
2nd rounder RHP Jamie Callahan has agreed in principle to a slot deal and will report to Fort Myers this week.

AI
06-06-2012, 05:33 PM
Also, Ty Buttrey is rumored to sign with us for $1M

RedSox>Yankees
06-06-2012, 05:33 PM
Agreed to deals:

Jamie Callahan (2nd round)
Mike Augliera (5th round)
Justin Haley (6th round)

Is likely to sign/rumored to have signed:

Shaq Green-Thompson (18th round)

RedSox>Yankees
06-06-2012, 05:39 PM
#RedSox close to deals with RHPs Pat Light (supplemental 1st round) and Jamie Callahan (2nd round).

Pete Abe

RedSox>Yankees
06-06-2012, 05:53 PM
Red Sox draftees who ranked on BA's top 500 list:

Deven Marrero, 1st round, ranked 14th, SS Coll
Ty Buttrey, 4th round, ranked 38th, RHP HS
Brian Johnson, 1st round, ranked 39th, LHP Coll
Pat Light, Supp. round, ranked 81st, RHP Coll
Austin Maddox, 3rd round, ranked 119th, RHP Coll
Alex Bregman, 29th round, ranked 121st, 2B/OF HS
Carson Fulmer, 15th round, ranked 123rd, RHP HS
Jamie Callahan, 2nd round, ranked 144th, RHP HS
Xavier Turner, 34th round, ranked 282nd, 3B HS
Justin Taylor, 30th round, ranked 313th, RHP HS
Dylan Chavez, 14th round, ranked 339th, LHP Coll
Chris Carlson, 33rd round, ranked 499th, OF JuCo

AI
06-06-2012, 07:13 PM
Don't think Bregman or Turner sign from what I've read, everyone else is fair game. Really hope we sign Fulmer.

AI
06-06-2012, 07:28 PM
Red Sox have signed fifth-round draft pick Mike Augliera. Details of the contract have not been released, but expect it to be significantly below the slot amount of $218,100 that is allotted for the 181st pick. Augliera, a senior right-hander from Binghamton University, will likely report to Lowell.

- Tim Britton

Melo15
06-06-2012, 07:53 PM
Don't think Bregman or Turner sign from what I've read, everyone else is fair game. Really hope we sign Fulmer.

Yeah it sounds like we picked Bregman hoping we may have some extra money to throw his way but it's extremely unlikely. Overall solid draft. Obviously it's not the haul we got last year but this is a much weaker class.

TedWilliams9
06-06-2012, 07:53 PM
We have the Florida Gators pitching staff now

AI
06-06-2012, 08:25 PM
Noticed that as well :laugh2:

Celtic AL
06-07-2012, 01:24 AM
Good to.see were close to signing some of the major picks

corky831
06-07-2012, 09:46 AM
nice article on Deven Marrero

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/draft/draft-dish/2012/2613536.html

RedSox>Yankees
06-07-2012, 10:06 AM
Was already kind of a foregone conclusion, but definitely looks like RHP Carson Fulmer will be headed to #Vandy. 15th-round to #RedSox

Kendall Rogers


LSU signee Alex Bregman, an infielder from Albuquerque, N.M., told Scout.com he will enroll at LSU after being picked by the Boston Red Sox in the 29th round with the 901st overall pick. Bregman was considered a first-round talent but had surgery on a broken finger March 14. He told LSU coaches if he wasn't among the first 31 players picked he would come to LSU.

**** that.

RedSox>Yankees
06-07-2012, 10:18 AM
Keaton Briscoe (http://www.canada.com/sports/baseball/Yellow+Jacket+drafted/6741880/story.html)
The 21-year-old Briscoe was the 751st overall pick, and the 13th Canadian selected. He had some contact with Boston leading up to the draft, but didn’t know for sure when or if he would be taken. His dream came true in the form of a ringing phone.

“The scout that I was talking to gave me a call and said they were going to pick me in the upcoming round,” said Briscoe.

“It was great. It’s all I’ve wanted to do. It’s my dream, so when that happened it was just awesome,”

Briscoe still didn’t know all the details on Wednesday, but he’ll head down to Florida in the next week or so to join Boston’s organization in the Gulf Coast League. He’ll sign a contract between now and then, but again, he didn’t have full details.

Jonathan Dziedzic (http://www.beaumontenterprise.com/sports/lamar/article/Red-Sox-draftee-Dziedzic-to-probably-stay-at-3614707.php)


Lamar pitcher Jonathan Dziedzic already told the Boston Red Sox he planned to stay in college no matter if a team picked him Wednesday in the Major League Baseball draft.

Boston picked him in anyway, using a 37th round pick (1,141 overall) to snag the left-hander.

Iseha Conklin (http://www.scsun-news.com/ci_20797899)


Conklin doesn t have any idea what he plans on doing with the draft, and has decided to sit back and wait as long as he can before he makes a decision.

Brandon Magee (http://tucsoncitizen.com/sports-news/2012/06/06/brandon-magees-baseball-dream-still-alive-after-being-selected-by-boston-red-sox-in-mlb-draft/)


According to Magee, the Red Sox told him they were willing to let him play football his senior season at ASU, where he is expected to be among the defense’s top performers.

Because of the Achilles injury, Magee hasn’t played in more than a year. From 2009-2011, he played in 27 games for the Sun Devils. In 29 at-bats, he hit .103, striking out 22 times. Magee isn’t concerned with this. Most of his at-bats, he said, were “ninth-inning, pinch-hit” opportunities. Because of football, he’s never been able to pour his work ethic into baseball.


Stephen Williams (http://api.viglink.com/api/click?format=go&key=d2f6dc3d61fd72ef48d01980d6bfec29&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fforum-soxprospects.com%2Ftopic%2F7678%2F2012-MLB-Draft-Day-3-Gameday-Thread%3Fpage%3D6&v=1&libid=1339078606297&out=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.piedmontdaily.com%2F%3Fp%3D24 5&ref=http%3A%2F%2Fforum-soxprospects.com%2Fforums%2F1%2FSoxProspects-Discussion&title=2012%20MLB%20Draft%20Day%203%20Gameday%20Thr ead%20in%20SoxProspects%20Discussion%20Forum&txt=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.piedmontdaily.com%2F%3Fp%3D24 5&jsonp=vglnk_jsonp_13390787209403)


Williams has a fastball that can hit 95 m.p.h. and also throws a curveball
and changeup. After working more with Huston last year, major league scouts
began to take notice and Williams started to truly believe he might have a
chance at playing at the next level.


Williams spoke with an area scout from the Red Sox Thursday afternoon after
being drafted and will spend the next few days reviewing his contract and making
the final decision to sign with the team. After signing, Williams will head to
Boston where the team gathers its newly signed players for a game at historic
Fenway Park before being shipped out to various minor league teams and
development camps.

Nomar
06-08-2012, 05:23 PM
Minnich signed today, not sure how much faith i have in a guy who played in divison II. He slugged over .900 though lol

RedSox>Yankees
06-08-2012, 05:41 PM
The Sox signed 14th round draft pick Dylan Chavez from Ole Miss and 40th rounder Kevin Heller, who hails from Mass.

Lackeyfan41
06-09-2012, 05:13 PM
Does anyone know what would happen if Appel does not sign?

Would he go back into the pool for next year or become a free agent? If he becomes a FA hopefully there is a chance the sox sign him.

Boston-Born
06-09-2012, 05:15 PM
Does anyone know what would happen if Appel does not sign?

Would he go back into the pool for next year or become a free agent? If he becomes a FA hopefully there is a chance the sox sign him.

Back into pool.

AI
06-09-2012, 07:23 PM
The more I read about our draft the more I like it. If we can manage to sign Carson Fulmer and Ty Buttrey I'll be a very happy puppy. Bregman and Turner won't sign which blows.

Green_Monster
06-10-2012, 10:41 AM
A Mod should list all of the draftees on the OP, and bold them when they sign. Pretty sure we did that last year.

AI
06-10-2012, 11:36 AM
They have a thread like that over at Soxprospects, you should check it out.

RedSox>Yankees
06-11-2012, 06:04 PM
http://fullcount.weei.com/sports/boston/baseball/red-sox/2012/06/11/red-sox-close-to-signing-football-staroutfielder-shaq-thompson/#more-50938

Red Sox are close to signing high school football star Shaq Thompson.

papipapsmanny
06-12-2012, 04:09 PM
yes a player named shaq in our system

RedSox>Yankees
06-12-2012, 04:36 PM
#RedSox sign 13th-rder J.B. Wendelken for $100k. Middle Georgia JC RHP attacks hitters w/low-90s FB, had 0.20 ERA this spring. #mlbdraft

Callis

RedSoxtober
06-13-2012, 04:38 PM
yes a player named shaq in our system

Let's watch him try to post up Kendrick Perkins (http://www.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?pos=OF&sid=t558&t=p_pbp&pid=592636).

corky831
06-14-2012, 02:14 PM
and then we have a brandon jacobs too lol

Station 13
06-15-2012, 01:01 PM
Red Sox Sign Pat Light
By Zach Links [June 15 at 11:45am CST]

The Red Sox have officially signed supplemental first rounder Pat Light, according to Alex Speier of WEEI.com. The hard-throwing right-hander out of Monmouth University agreed to a bonus of $1MM, shy of the $1.394MM bonus earmarked for the No. 37 pick.

Light routinely worked in the mid-90s in college and flashed fastballs of 96 mph and better at the end of games last season. The right-hander posted a 2.40 ERA in his junior year with 102 strikeouts and just 16 walks across 101.1 innings.

The Red Sox also signed second-round pick Jamie Callahan, a hard-throwing right-hander from Dillon High School in South Carolina. The amount of the 17-year-old's bonus is unknown.

RedSox>Yankees
06-15-2012, 03:50 PM
MikeAndrewsSP#RedSox sign 4th round pick Ty Buttrey, a highly-regarded RHP out of Providence (NC) HS. Thought he might not sign until the 7/13 deadline.

Nice

Green_Monster
06-15-2012, 04:33 PM
•The Red Sox announced that they have signed 11 picks, including second rounder Jamie Callahan and fourth rounder Ty Buttrey. Callahan obtained a $600K bonus, according to Callis (on Twitter).

-MLB Trade Rumors

Nomar
06-15-2012, 04:33 PM
Hats off for getting Light, Callahan and Buttrey signed today!

RedSox>Yankees
06-17-2012, 06:12 PM
#RedSox, 1st-rder Deven Marrero agree on $2.05 mil bonus ($1.75 mil pick value). Slick-fielding #ArizonaState SS.#mlbdraft

Callis

Him signing an overslot deal probably closes the book on signing Carson Fulmer.

-Lavigne43-
06-17-2012, 07:38 PM
That's disappointing but I don't think Fulmer would have signed for the ~400,000 if Marrero signed a slot deal. I'm excited to see how Marrero does, he has the potential to become a good hitting, good fielding SS, which would be very valuable.

BGeer091
06-17-2012, 09:26 PM
I still think Fulmer is going to sign with us... Maybe i'm just optimistic

B'sCeltsPatsSox
06-17-2012, 11:16 PM
Marrero agreed to a deal according to WEEI.

RedSox>Yankees
06-18-2012, 04:10 AM
Iseha Conklin (JuCo SS drafted in the 19th round) verbally agreed to sign. He's a buddies with Blake Swihart and was ranked the 7th best draft prospect from the state of Iowa.

http://m.rrobserver.com/sports/article_224f64f8-b73c-11e1-9cf7-0019bb2963f4.html

BGeer091
06-18-2012, 12:50 PM
@CarsonFulmer18 Tweet him guys show him support from Redsox Nation. I tweeted him last night and got a retweet. We need his electric arm in our system!!!!

RedSoxtober
06-18-2012, 01:06 PM
According to Baseball America, the Red Sox signed their No. 1 draft pick, Arizona State shortstop Deven Marrero, to a $2.05 million bonusBoston Globe

I believe that leaves the Sox with $1.6M or so in bonus money to spend on Johnson AND Maddox.

Nomar
06-18-2012, 06:11 PM
Boston Globe

I believe that leaves the Sox with $1.6M or so in bonus money to spend on Johnson AND Maddox.

I care more about Maddox. I hated that Johnson pick i bet that guy ends up being worthless.

Soxfan85
06-18-2012, 06:14 PM
Source WHDH
Thoughts?


Roger Clemens has been acquitted on all charges by a jury that decided he didn't lie to Congress when he denied using performance-enhancing drugs

Nomar
06-18-2012, 06:24 PM
Source WHDH
Thoughts?


Roger Clemens has been acquitted on all charges by a jury that decided he didn't lie to Congress when he denied using performance-enhancing drugs

Still did it, not a HOF'er. (IMO)

Celtic AL
06-18-2012, 09:42 PM
I care more about Maddox. I hated that Johnson pick i bet that guy ends up being worthless.
i disagree. the reason why he was good not because he was hitting as well. once he focus the pitching part think he'll shock some people. but hes not going to be the Ace for years to come hes going to be a Nice #3 or #4 in the future.

pending if we dont trade both Ranaudo & Barnes in the next few years

are rotation looks like this 2014-beyond

#1 Clay Buchholtz
#2 Matt barnes
#3 Anthony ranaudo
#4 Felix Doubront
#5 Brian Johnson

Nomar
06-18-2012, 10:07 PM
i disagree. the reason why he was good not because he was hitting as well. once he focus the pitching part think he'll shock some people. but hes not going to be the Ace for years to come hes going to be a Nice #3 or #4 in the future.

pending if we dont trade both Ranaudo & Barnes in the next few years

are rotation looks like this 2014-beyond

#1 Clay Buchholtz
#2 Matt barnes
#3 Anthony ranaudo
#4 Felix Doubront
#5 Brian Johnson

I would like that but i disagree still with Johnson (respectfully of course haha). Dont think his stuff is good enough, but maybe it will improve as you said since he wont be hitting. People will probably cry Casey Kelly but if i recall Kelly had great stuff already when drafted. That being said im no talent evaluator and the Sox must've seen something in this kid to take him in the first round.

BGeer091
06-19-2012, 12:37 AM
If it came down to Maddox or Johnson the obvious choice IMO is Maddox. So do we not have any money to spend on Fulmer now??

Nomar
06-19-2012, 05:14 PM
If it came down to Maddox or Johnson the obvious choice IMO is Maddox. So do we not have any money to spend on Fulmer now??

I would say no unless BC knows magic tricks. We dont even have wiggle room for the gator boys.

-Lavigne43-
06-20-2012, 07:10 PM
There isn't a Maddox or Johnson. If you don't sign one of them you lose the slot money for that pick. Both are probably going to be slot deals and both will probably sign soon now that Florida is out of the CWS. I forgot who tweeted it, but someone credible said we only had around $150,000 left before we were 5% over the cap. I don't see Fulmer signing for $250,000.

BGeer091
06-20-2012, 09:04 PM
There isn't a Maddox or Johnson. If you don't sign one of them you lose the slot money for that pick. Both are probably going to be slot deals and both will probably sign soon now that Florida is out of the CWS. I forgot who tweeted it, but someone credible said we only had around $150,000 left before we were 5% over the cap. I don't see Fulmer signing for $250,000.

Fulmer seems to be considering us though. Everything i've read seems like it. I feel like he's going to sign with us.

ARose
06-21-2012, 10:08 AM
the red sox are expected to sign first rounder brian johnson by the weekend, evan drellich and jonathan mayo of mlb.com report. The university of florida left-hander is expected to obtain a bonus of $1.575mm, which is precisely what mlb recommends for the 31st overall selection.

Johnson's college team has been knocked out of the college world series, so he should be coming to boston for a physical soon. The red sox obtained the 31st overall selection from the phillies as compensation for losing closer jonathan papelbon via free agency. They obtained a second selection for losing papelbon -- the 37th overall pick -- and used it to sign right-hander pat light.

mlbtr

RedSoxtober
06-21-2012, 10:36 AM
There isn't a Maddox or Johnson. If you don't sign one of them you lose the slot money for that pick. Both are probably going to be slot deals and both will probably sign soon now that Florida is out of the CWS. I forgot who tweeted it, but someone credible said we only had around $150,000 left before we were 5% over the cap. I don't see Fulmer signing for $250,000.

Total pool: $6.884M

Marrero, $2.05M
Light, $1M
Callahan, $600K
Buttery, $1.3M
Aguilera, $25K
Haley, $125K
Kraus, $1K
Minnich, $10K
Miller, $5K
Watkins, handshake
Total spent: $5.111M

#31 slot: $1.575M.... and we're done

Going over by 5% would add $344K which is ~$60K below slot for Maddox.

Station 13
06-21-2012, 10:40 AM
Total pool: $6.884M

Marrero, $2.05M
Light, $1M
Callahan, $600K
Buttery, $1.3M
Aguilera, $25K
Haley, $125K
Kraus, $1K
Minnich, $10K
Miller, $5K
Watkins, handshake
Total spent: $5.111M

#31 slot: $1.575M.... and we're done

Going over by 5% would add $344K which is ~$60K below slot for Maddox.

Total tool is only for the first 10 rounders correct? and they have only 100K to sign everyone else.